Glad to hear, i enjoy watching your oil videos, and even though i have been doing this for 20 years, i still learn new things that work better. Have a great day.
Great to see some more videos. I’ve been building my own centrifuge but haven’t had a chance to start using it yet. Custom welded up 8” bowl spinning at around 5500rpm so gonna be good once it is running
I’m just getting into it myself. My setup is currently a steel 55 gallon drum that I welded 3 bungs into the side. The bottom one for a sludge drain, it tees and runs to the top bung with clear 1/2” pvc in it I bought off Amazon. There’s a ball valve to make sure I can isolate it if I ever need to. The middle bung is about 1/3 of the way up. That one has a ball valve, then goes to a 12v diesel pump I mounted on the drum, then 2 filters, a hydraulic filter then a Baldwin branded cat fuel filter. Check valve after the second filter, then runs into a second drum for filtered oil. I use a large round air filter from a Chevy express van in a 5 gallon bucket with a hole and pipe in the bottom to prefilter while filling the drum. The drum has a band heater on it I leave at 100* to help get any water cooked out of the used oil. I leave the drum like that when it’s filled for a few months to get as much settled to the bottom as I can before running the filters. When I’m ready to filter, I turn the band heater up to 200* for a while before turning the little pump on, the heat helps lower the viscosity so the pump should live longer. I also do 50/50 oil and diesel in the drum before filtering. This is all to feed a 92 F250 with a 7.3 IDI. Truck is about to get a banks turbo kit and a new clutch, while I do all that work, it’ll get water injection too to help keep things clean.
The 7.3 IDI is just about the most forgiving platform for alternative fuels. I've ran multiple on all sorts of blends and processes over the years. Good luck with everything!
@@NotSoGrandGarage eventually I’ll get a centrifuge, but just not in the cards right now. Trying to get out of debt this year and start saving for a house down payment. Hopefully going through a few filters including a couple additional on the truck will be enough to keep her happy. Thanks for all the info you give!
For sure. I started out with used drums and whole house water filters... it is what it is and yeah a centrifuge is certainly an investment. Keep at it bud.
You will be fine, ever heard of Zip Ties n Bias Plys? That guy just pours his oil changes directly into his 7.3IDI rigs. In fact I have never seen a motor repeatedly take so much aboose. Check it out!
@@datalorian I’ve watched some of his stuff. He doesn’t care if his explodes, I do. But you’re right. These motors will take a lot of abuse. So filtered motor oil should be just fine.
on the next episode where you talk about the centrifuge, can you cover your cleaning techniques? I usually spoon out the bowl but the heater element can coke up oil on the element itself and sometimes it fills with any junk in the oil from the feed source. I have the cap on my tube that came with the centrifuge but i see yours has a ball valve.
I can do that. I run a valve on the bottom of the heater to allow easy draining. I've noticed some water separation in the heater itself so I crack the drain between runs and after a batch is complete, I drain the whole system. With that said, I'll see what I can do.
@@NotSoGrandGaragefinally getting around to assembling the new extreme system that I bought from you this week. I am glad I saw this video and read this comment. That is a great idea about having a drain at the bottom of the heater. I will look into doing that myself
I've not had solid success with the Cummins yet. Still get injector coking from time to time and it isn't on daily driver status so it doesn't get messed with nearly as much as I'd like.
Im looking at building my own set up but my biggest concern is getting used oil with coolant in it. Have you dealt with this? I theory the centrifuge should be able to separate the water but I’m concerned with what it doesn’t catch and if that will hurt my injection system.
Settling your oil prior to processing helps with this quite a bit. With that said, if the bowl of the centrifuge looks like pudding after a run, your oil is wet and you'll need to run it again. When you're ready... www.notsograndgarage.com
I used to make black diesel with Dieselcraft centrifuge for IDI ford 7.3, 6.9, Mistsubishi 4d55, Kubota 2203, and Mazda Perkins. Those all had gazillion miles on them and eventually were put to rest. I recently acquired a 97 Ford Powerstroke and a 99 Volkswagen TDI Beetle. Just looking for anyone's experience with either of those engines and any potential blends.
My buddy ran my mix through his 97 power stroke and had zero issues. Thing to watch out for, your fuel filters. That truck is coming up on thirty years old, probably ran nothing but pump fuel. The detergents in the oil will break down those deposits and plug your filter solid. It’s not the black diesel itself that will plug your filters, it’s the decades of junk that it’s scrubbing out of your fuel system. I run mine in a 94 idiT F250 and I’ve never had any issues. As for the tdi VW, I’m not sure. If it’s high pressure common rail I’d say hard no but I’ve yet to experiment with it through a modern diesel engine. I’m in the process of refining my setup but as of right now, Chris has a setup better suited to filter for new engines than mine.
The powerstroke is a solid platform for alternative fuels. There are even a few outfits producing tunes for oil. The ALH has been known to do well also. How you setup the systems and how you process the oil will make the difference.
Mainly, I just like doing smaller batches as it works for me. Many people do large runs. I've also completely filled the bowl of the centrifuge on a single 50 gallon pass. Never know how dirty the oil really is.
@@NotSoGrandGarage was mostly just curious if theres a big chance of moisture accumulating back into a tote aftet its processed, i need to try and process basically a winters worth of fuel before it gets to -30 but my centrifuge isnt going to show up untill early november.
@@brucebarnes311 oof... Who'd you order from? I'm shipping practically the same day.. have units in stock ready to go. With that said, I wouldn't think it would be a major issue like any other bulk fuel storage.
@@NotSoGrandGarage i went with PA biodiesel single pass version just beacuse it was the cheapest. and honestly because they do inhouse financing lol, but once i placed the order they said they where on back order and i just thought to myself damnit lol
@@brucebarnes311 gotcha. I do have ShopPay installment pay available through the website but that only lets you stretch that out so long so I get it. These things aren't exactly a small investment. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Sir....don't know why you are wasting your time. Have heard of an Alfa Laval MAB 103 or MAB 104 with an attached feed pump. You can buy a used one for about $5000.00 and it will centrifuge and clean your oil and transfer it from drum to drum without gravity feed and so forth. It seems that you are re-inventing the wheel. Alfa Laval has been around for over 150 years. A little hint, put a disc stack in the bowl. It'll increase the efficiency of the purification.
So what you're saying is I'm accomplishing the same thing for half the price. With that said .. I didn't build this equipment I'm running... and considering the money I've saved over the last 15 years, I'd say I'm far from wasting my time. Most people in this game cringe at the thought of buying new equipment and spending $2500... You think people are going to be happy with dropping double that on used stuff? I can assure you that's a big nope. Those units are also designed for industrial use meaning 3ph power. The average person making fuel at home isn't going to have access to 460v 3ph. I'm not a machinist either so redesigning the bowl isn't in my wheelhouse. Thanks for watching anyways though.
Glad to hear, i enjoy watching your oil videos, and even though i have been doing this for 20 years, i still learn new things that work better. Have a great day.
Thanks!
Great to see some more videos. I’ve been building my own centrifuge but haven’t had a chance to start using it yet. Custom welded up 8” bowl spinning at around 5500rpm so gonna be good once it is running
@@MrLikeaboss2012 that should do quite nicely
Great setup. KISS principle is always the best. You inspired me to make one for myself.
Good deal. Thanks for watching!
Great idea with setting the info up in parts
I was hoping it'll make it easier to find exactly what people need help with. Thanks for watching! More to come soon.
NICE!!!
Thanks
I’m just getting into it myself.
My setup is currently a steel 55 gallon drum that I welded 3 bungs into the side. The bottom one for a sludge drain, it tees and runs to the top bung with clear 1/2” pvc in it I bought off Amazon. There’s a ball valve to make sure I can isolate it if I ever need to.
The middle bung is about 1/3 of the way up. That one has a ball valve, then goes to a 12v diesel pump I mounted on the drum, then 2 filters, a hydraulic filter then a Baldwin branded cat fuel filter. Check valve after the second filter, then runs into a second drum for filtered oil.
I use a large round air filter from a Chevy express van in a 5 gallon bucket with a hole and pipe in the bottom to prefilter while filling the drum.
The drum has a band heater on it I leave at 100* to help get any water cooked out of the used oil.
I leave the drum like that when it’s filled for a few months to get as much settled to the bottom as I can before running the filters. When I’m ready to filter, I turn the band heater up to 200* for a while before turning the little pump on, the heat helps lower the viscosity so the pump should live longer. I also do 50/50 oil and diesel in the drum before filtering.
This is all to feed a 92 F250 with a 7.3 IDI. Truck is about to get a banks turbo kit and a new clutch, while I do all that work, it’ll get water injection too to help keep things clean.
The 7.3 IDI is just about the most forgiving platform for alternative fuels. I've ran multiple on all sorts of blends and processes over the years. Good luck with everything!
@@NotSoGrandGarage eventually I’ll get a centrifuge, but just not in the cards right now. Trying to get out of debt this year and start saving for a house down payment.
Hopefully going through a few filters including a couple additional on the truck will be enough to keep her happy.
Thanks for all the info you give!
For sure. I started out with used drums and whole house water filters... it is what it is and yeah a centrifuge is certainly an investment. Keep at it bud.
You will be fine, ever heard of Zip Ties n Bias Plys? That guy just pours his oil changes directly into his 7.3IDI rigs. In fact I have never seen a motor repeatedly take so much aboose. Check it out!
@@datalorian I’ve watched some of his stuff. He doesn’t care if his explodes, I do.
But you’re right. These motors will take a lot of abuse. So filtered motor oil should be just fine.
Excellent, thanks Man.
Thanks for watching!
Nice job Chris!... I love the centrifuge I bought from you.... Super high quality and really quite affordable....
Thanks bud.
@@NotSoGrandGarage This kind of video series will bring viewers and subscribers.... Thanks for putting in the effort to make these TH-cam videos!
That's the goal. The more information out there... tor more involved... the more we learn from each other.
on the next episode where you talk about the centrifuge, can you cover your cleaning techniques? I usually spoon out the bowl but the heater element can coke up oil on the element itself and sometimes it fills with any junk in the oil from the feed source. I have the cap on my tube that came with the centrifuge but i see yours has a ball valve.
I can do that. I run a valve on the bottom of the heater to allow easy draining. I've noticed some water separation in the heater itself so I crack the drain between runs and after a batch is complete, I drain the whole system. With that said, I'll see what I can do.
@@NotSoGrandGaragefinally getting around to assembling the new extreme system that I bought from you this week. I am glad I saw this video and read this comment. That is a great idea about having a drain at the bottom of the heater. I will look into doing that myself
Thanks for the info brother.
Thanks for watching. More to come!
Can we get an update on your Cummins setup and what changes you had to make in order for it work?
I've not had solid success with the Cummins yet. Still get injector coking from time to time and it isn't on daily driver status so it doesn't get messed with nearly as much as I'd like.
Im looking at building my own set up but my biggest concern is getting used oil with coolant in it. Have you dealt with this? I theory the centrifuge should be able to separate the water but I’m concerned with what it doesn’t catch and if that will hurt my injection system.
Settling your oil prior to processing helps with this quite a bit. With that said, if the bowl of the centrifuge looks like pudding after a run, your oil is wet and you'll need to run it again. When you're ready... www.notsograndgarage.com
I used to make black diesel with Dieselcraft centrifuge for IDI ford 7.3, 6.9, Mistsubishi 4d55, Kubota 2203, and Mazda Perkins. Those all had gazillion miles on them and eventually were put to rest. I recently acquired a 97 Ford Powerstroke and a 99 Volkswagen TDI Beetle. Just looking for anyone's experience with either of those engines and any potential blends.
My buddy ran my mix through his 97 power stroke and had zero issues. Thing to watch out for, your fuel filters. That truck is coming up on thirty years old, probably ran nothing but pump fuel. The detergents in the oil will break down those deposits and plug your filter solid. It’s not the black diesel itself that will plug your filters, it’s the decades of junk that it’s scrubbing out of your fuel system. I run mine in a 94 idiT F250 and I’ve never had any issues. As for the tdi VW, I’m not sure. If it’s high pressure common rail I’d say hard no but I’ve yet to experiment with it through a modern diesel engine. I’m in the process of refining my setup but as of right now, Chris has a setup better suited to filter for new engines than mine.
The powerstroke is a solid platform for alternative fuels. There are even a few outfits producing tunes for oil. The ALH has been known to do well also. How you setup the systems and how you process the oil will make the difference.
How much oil in that 97 ford mix?@adrienst.raymond6801
a friend of mine ran an early 2000s powerstroke on filtered waste atf for 5 or so years without issue.
is there a reason why you dont just run like.. 1000 liters through at a time?
Mainly, I just like doing smaller batches as it works for me. Many people do large runs. I've also completely filled the bowl of the centrifuge on a single 50 gallon pass. Never know how dirty the oil really is.
@@NotSoGrandGarage was mostly just curious if theres a big chance of moisture accumulating back into a tote aftet its processed, i need to try and process basically a winters worth of fuel before it gets to -30 but my centrifuge isnt going to show up untill early november.
@@brucebarnes311 oof... Who'd you order from? I'm shipping practically the same day.. have units in stock ready to go. With that said, I wouldn't think it would be a major issue like any other bulk fuel storage.
@@NotSoGrandGarage i went with PA biodiesel single pass version just beacuse it was the cheapest. and honestly because they do inhouse financing lol, but once i placed the order they said they where on back order and i just thought to myself damnit lol
@@brucebarnes311 gotcha. I do have ShopPay installment pay available through the website but that only lets you stretch that out so long so I get it. These things aren't exactly a small investment. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Sir....don't know why you are wasting your time. Have heard of an Alfa Laval MAB 103 or MAB 104 with an attached feed pump. You can buy a used one for about $5000.00 and it will centrifuge and clean your oil and transfer it from drum to drum without gravity feed and so forth. It seems that you are re-inventing the wheel. Alfa Laval has been around for over 150 years. A little hint, put a disc stack in the bowl. It'll increase the efficiency of the purification.
So what you're saying is I'm accomplishing the same thing for half the price. With that said .. I didn't build this equipment I'm running... and considering the money I've saved over the last 15 years, I'd say I'm far from wasting my time.
Most people in this game cringe at the thought of buying new equipment and spending $2500... You think people are going to be happy with dropping double that on used stuff? I can assure you that's a big nope. Those units are also designed for industrial use meaning 3ph power. The average person making fuel at home isn't going to have access to 460v 3ph.
I'm not a machinist either so redesigning the bowl isn't in my wheelhouse.
Thanks for watching anyways though.