*Toyota is always the answer. I am NOT suggesting that the lighter/thinner LC250/GX550 is "worse" or "not as strong/capable" as the LC300/LX600 frame... the 4 banger and lighter transmission/lighter interior trimmings [on the LC250] might mathematically balance out the absence of a twin turbo V6, seperate cooling system, and larger 10 speed transmission and heavier interior trimmings... who knows... the GX550 vs LC300/LX600 frame differences are still unclear at thus point* *the front black member on the 250 ladder frame might be some black composite material or black sheetmetal... it's hard to fathom that they stuck a heavy steel crossmember that far forward... either way Toyota/Lexus certainly has room to play around with that approach angle some more if they want to... we will continue to research and share 300/250/550/600 differences as they are discovered/revealed*
G'day from Western Australia. Hey thank you - this is a very interesting and informative video! I really like how you emphasise / remind us that GX / 250 / Prado is very capable right out of the box! And the 250 seems to have better tyres (tires) too - so perhaps just the UVP modification (and a UHF radio) is all's needed? Still waiting for it here in Australia, any day now I think. But the smaller fuel tank (compared to the 150 Prado's 150 litres) is a huge disappointment, and not so good for our conditions. I think I'll be keeping my 150. It's a better car than I am a driver!
The problem with the penny-pinching hypothesis is that there isn't a very significant price difference between the base model 300s and 250s on the global market. It makes far more sense that it's for weight savings for fuel efficiency standards and fleet efficiency requirements.
Most off-roader noobies think offroad suspensions are softer but mostly are stiffer. I fell into that trap 10 years ago. Give me stock shock and springs with a smaller tire with taller sidewall.
@davidnuxoll7074 Very true and it goes for pretty much every car being "modded"... from a Honda Civic to a Landcruiser 300, the first thing people do is screw up the suspension with Chinese parts and convince themselves that it's an "upgrade"... this psychosis has been going on for the last 35 years... education is key
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I will say in my modded euro days the KW street comforts were the softest suspension I’ve ever had. I had a 2 inch drop on a b8 Audi SQ5 with factory 21s. Rebound dampening is key.
If I had the money to shit away. I would love to buy a Lexus LX600 and buy the LC GR front nose and wheels to convert to a GR outside and LX600 inside. I personally love the LX600 interior. Just day dreaming.
Now that I own an LX570, the only Toyota I would consider an upgrade is the LX600. The AHC suspension is just so good if you use your vehicle in a variety of ways(I use mine to daily, tow 5500 lbs and offroad and it does it all extremely well) that there is no way I would go back to a static suspension in the LC, GX, 4Runner or trucks
Since getting the LC250-1958 I’ve installed 17” alloys, 33” tires and some lights + roof rack for a clam style RTT. The power is good but hate the raised floor for the batteries.
So… I’m a first time LC250 1958 owner. Just sold my 2016 Rubicon 4 door w. 3” lift and 37”tires. I wanted more comfort, tech and reliability. So I’m very happy so far.
Do you think you’re getting a less watered down new Armada 2025 when comparing patrol to us armada ; lc300 to lc250? Apart from all the techy stuff that could break, are you getting a more robust compromise with the new armada than you would from lc250?
Great video. I totally accept what you are saying about balance but as you know many LC buyers will add heavy bullbars, maybe a winch and other accessories, in such cases, wouldn't this affect the balance which the engineers have engineered and perhaps necessitate heavier shocks and potentially a small 2" lift?
@fishinbite ... frankly most will do all you mentioned soley for looks... ie a vanitymobile... we got a "bullbar", fatter skids, rock sliders, portable winch... still not lifted 🙂... if then lift is sized to _properly_ counterbalance a steel bumper carring a 80lb winch then that would be ideal... but who does that? They slap on stiffer taller springs from China that raise the vehicle 2" while deleting any downtravel/articulation
Saving weight is also an economical thing for fuel usage and performance on the highway. If you can afford the 300 fuel usage wouldn’t matter as much. Many government and fleet buyers are using a lot of rav4 s for economic and virtue signaling here in Australia and no doubt the outback gravel road travelers will get the Prado.
It is just a question. If you did not own the GX would you consider this truck because you had mentioned in the past looking for a smaller engine. Or would you consider it to replace your van down the road. For my usage, I really like the overall compromise of this truck for me. I do not tow, I drive in the city, and I cruise out of town at 65 or less MPH with my family. I get 28 MPG out of the GX now on the highway, I think I can get this thing to do 30+ MPG. 🤪
Nobody is getting 30+ mpg unless they are going downhill. I get 23 mpg on the highway, a bit more if very conservative. Nonetheless, it is a solid, comfortable and capable truck. I have no regrets!
@henry78560 it's hard to give up then "lux" of the GX460 or any Lexus... A LC300 GRS with a 4-cylinder non-hybrid would be ideal for us, but that's just a fantasy application as the market would complain about the lack of power in the engine... ideally a LC300 GRS in Lexus LX600 trim would be feasible in the USA... nothing is perfect... everyone just does the best they can ❤️ 😃 ✌️
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I know. This same vehicle is sold in Africa with a 2.8 diesel. Funny how Toyota will not bring their diesel 4 here. Even though the Big Three has made small diesels an option on some trucks.
@@f8PixelMagic lol. I am going out of town next month. 2100 mile trip. Taking the GX and will record the 28 MPG for you guys. I have gotten 28 MPG out of the GX and 25 MPG from my 4Runner TRD. I know I can get 30 out of the LC250. It is all in the setup. average speed, and pedal modulation. I only get when I drive them a specific way. But they are capable. I recorded the 4Runner 25 MPG just waiting to do this trip to upload both together.
But what does mpg matter? It’s meaningless at the pump and the Starbucks people order cost $150 per gallon. Just drive the vehicle. 18,22,25 mpg doesn’t matter a darn thing.
74weld makes portal axles for the gx460/4Runner. Keeps stock geometry and suspension per their website, but the portals raise it a couple of inches. Wonder what you think about roll angle pros and cons with portals. Thanks
@keeblord7383 portals are fantastic about keeping the geometry balance while increasing ground clearance... that at fat tires too.. wish toyota would make something stock with portals.. but everyone would complain about the price 😆
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I won a $500 voucher for their portals but I looked at the price for a set of 4 and it’s $20,000 lol. I wonder if there would be more articulation with just portals or if I would have to get dr kdss extenders and a 2.5 or 3.0 shock that can extend more but leave it at stock height so there’s the capacity to articulate when it needs to more
@oceanzu6585 should be yes 😃... I thought the Tacoma frame was partially boxed and only C in some areas? double check that... but ya... the 250 frame is not a mickey mouse frame
As I said before The 250 is just a limited 4Runner that costs significantly more It is essentially an appearance package It’s frame is probably thinner so when it starts rusting it’s going to be toast years quicker Enjoy Trust me that guy doesn’t care about balance unless it’s a healthy balance in a Tokyo bank account😅 Oh and how come this guy didn’t notice the hideous tow bar arrangement?
@@joeblack1052 go to a dealership. thats what i did. In the end everyone has an opinion that really has no worth in what others discover for themselves. Just like people crapping on the iforce Max having ZERO experience with one
Hopefully people can stfu now that the new 250 isn’t a real Land Cruiser. It’s been in the LC family since the early 90’s and this new Prado outperforms the 200 series in almost every way.
Genuinely curious how it outperforms the 200 in almost every way? Which ways? I don’t buy the thinner frame on the 250 is an issue. Or that it’s any weaker than the 150 frame so, if you are comparing to the GX460, it’s not an issue.
@@Jay-me7gw it’s better in every way from a daily driving perspective. Articulation flex with the sway bar disconnect it was barely less to the 200 series. It was close enough that I would say it’s not really a deciding factor when off-roading. It gets waaaay better gas milage than a 200 series as well. Nobody’s out there bending any of Land cruiser model frames either so I don’t see how that’s even a relevant issue.
@@c1aytonbigsbyI don’t think the frame thing is an issue and it wouldn’t sway my decision in the slightest if I was in the market to buy a new Toyora My issue with the new LC is towing. I would way rather have a 200 with the 5.7L for towing than the 2.4L hybrid. Since I need whatever truck or SUV I own to tow, the new LC is completely off the table for me. I’d only consider the GX550 and LX600 with the TTV6
@@c1aytonbigsby and the majority of consumers will never tow anything, at best it'll get a bike rack in the hitch.(Don't come at me with 'I tow', sure, some people do, but those people are in the minority)
@lillianachannel Neither the 300 or 250 are "heavy duty" trucks. The only LC that is heavy duty is the LC70... duty meaning actual workload (duty has nothing to do with offroading). Toyota classifies the LC300 as a "station wagon": th-cam.com/video/seZCrDANUvs/w-d-xo.html
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADmy point is that the 150 and 250 were classified as light duty, but the 200 and 300 aren’t. The actual sizes of the vehicles are not different, but the towing capacities were between the light duty and station wagon. The 70 series is a different beast for sure.
While I'm highly against cheap lifts, to say the OEM suspension is the be-all end-all, well, if that's the case factory Toyota Baja/Dakar teams would all run OEM Tokicos. If your only use-case is smooth side grades, sure, keep the OEM setup for lateral stability. Here in the Pacific Northwest, overland trails are very rock / rooty, cross ditches every few hundred feet, and demand clearance + suspension travel. Any stock truck short of a Unimog would bash up their under-belly.
Toyota suspension engineers are trying to find a mix between good daily use on roads for most of the time or 99% of the time. But we want more performance offroad. Thats why the suspension industry keeps getting bigger and better. Who wants to drive a boring stock vehicle?
@@LuaiADV no, people want lifts for LOOKS... they have zero clue that the stock vehicle already has performance built in. Tokico and KYB suspension. Most will not take their "modified" vehicle anywhere close to where an actual stock LC can go offroad. The [aftermarket] "suspension industry" is based on pretentiousness, posturing and posing (mostly): th-cam.com/video/cz75mKJakHw/w-d-xo.html
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD there is no size that fits all. I work with tier 1 companies. I know what they are bench-marking. To assume factory suspension is the best all around performance is far, far from the truth. There are so many variables that go into suspension design. It maybe the case that in the US. The consumers are after the looks. But in global markets, things are extremely different. Again don’t look at manufacturing with just your users in mind. It has to adhere to so many different global regulations. It’s not even funny. Thats why the aftermarket is much more fun. (When done right) you will get a far superior suspension than whats offered by Toyota. A simple question to ask, who did they build the car for? What user type? Consider a global market. That will give you an idea on how factories will have to make compromises to make most accept the stock setup.
I do agree a lot people want a lift for looks but I also want it for off road performance. I’ve personally experienced the difference of off roading a stock vehicle or one with 35s and a 2.5” lift. The stock vehicle will drag its belly on the ground/rocks/snow and the lifted one will clear it. That is often the difference between getting stuck or not.
The 250 is NOT a replacement for the 300, The 300 is the larger 4X4 and the 250 (Prado) is a smaller model. In Australia we have both the Landcruiser 300 and the Toyota Prado (250) sold side by side with the 250 a smaller cheaper model.
@@WilliamVandervleut 300 and 250 are the same size/dimensions practically speaking... there is no legit size difference now like there was between the 200 and 150
*Toyota is always the answer. I am NOT suggesting that the lighter/thinner LC250/GX550 is "worse" or "not as strong/capable" as the LC300/LX600 frame... the 4 banger and lighter transmission/lighter interior trimmings [on the LC250] might mathematically balance out the absence of a twin turbo V6, seperate cooling system, and larger 10 speed transmission and heavier interior trimmings... who knows... the GX550 vs LC300/LX600 frame differences are still unclear at thus point*
*the front black member on the 250 ladder frame might be some black composite material or black sheetmetal... it's hard to fathom that they stuck a heavy steel crossmember that far forward... either way Toyota/Lexus certainly has room to play around with that approach angle some more if they want to... we will continue to research and share 300/250/550/600 differences as they are discovered/revealed*
Is there frame difference between LC300 vs LX600?
always addressing interesting points and not just basic as others. well done
Yes, definitely bring your notebook to, all he's teaching! It's mathematical! It's algebraic!
Love these in-depth comparisons. Hold onto your LC 200’s, LX 570’s and GX 460 folks
Yes, I'm gripping onto my GX460 tightly as if I was going Off-roading in the Rockies
@@D.Dragoon based. That’s how it’s done, it’ll do right by you always, truly a trusty steed!
Thank you for another video always enjoying the information!! just bought another Toyota!! Loving it!!
Oh, another "Toy" owner. How's it going so far?
@@D.Dragoon so far I’ve had good luck with Toyota. This is my 5th Toyota.
G'day from Western Australia. Hey thank you - this is a very interesting and informative video! I really like how you emphasise / remind us that GX / 250 / Prado is very capable right out of the box! And the 250 seems to have better tyres (tires) too - so perhaps just the UVP modification (and a UHF radio) is all's needed? Still waiting for it here in Australia, any day now I think. But the smaller fuel tank (compared to the 150 Prado's 150 litres) is a huge disappointment, and not so good for our conditions. I think I'll be keeping my 150. It's a better car than I am a driver!
The problem with the penny-pinching hypothesis is that there isn't a very significant price difference between the base model 300s and 250s on the global market. It makes far more sense that it's for weight savings for fuel efficiency standards and fleet efficiency requirements.
Most off-roader noobies think offroad suspensions are softer but mostly are stiffer. I fell into that trap 10 years ago. Give me stock shock and springs with a smaller tire with taller sidewall.
@davidnuxoll7074 Very true and it goes for pretty much every car being "modded"... from a Honda Civic to a Landcruiser 300, the first thing people do is screw up the suspension with Chinese parts and convince themselves that it's an "upgrade"... this psychosis has been going on for the last 35 years... education is key
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I will say in my modded euro days the KW street comforts were the softest suspension I’ve ever had. I had a 2 inch drop on a b8 Audi SQ5 with factory 21s. Rebound dampening is key.
Thank you for another illuminative vid!! Great info!! Please, who was the music at the end? Thanks, and happy trails!!
If I had the money to shit away. I would love to buy a Lexus LX600 and buy the LC GR front nose and wheels to convert to a GR outside and LX600 inside. I personally love the LX600 interior. Just day dreaming.
Now that I own an LX570, the only Toyota I would consider an upgrade is the LX600. The AHC suspension is just so good if you use your vehicle in a variety of ways(I use mine to daily, tow 5500 lbs and offroad and it does it all extremely well) that there is no way I would go back to a static suspension in the LC, GX, 4Runner or trucks
@@henry78560 a dream is a wish your heart makes ✨️ ♥️
Wouldn’t it be easier to just move to Australia mate?
@@joeblack1052 lol. Maybe.
@@joeblack1052 I would love to some day visit Australia. You guys have some of the coolest vehicles. I specially love your truck trains.
Since getting the LC250-1958 I’ve installed 17” alloys, 33” tires and some lights + roof rack for a clam style RTT. The power is good but hate the raised floor for the batteries.
So… I’m a first time LC250 1958 owner. Just sold my 2016 Rubicon 4 door w. 3” lift and 37”tires. I wanted more comfort, tech and reliability. So I’m very happy so far.
INCREDIBLY INFORMATIVE 😊
Interesting as always. I’ve learned more about Toyota/Lexus suspensions here than anywhere else! I’m wondering when the 2025 GX will be announced.
Totally agree on aftermarket modding likely ruining the driving dynamics so painstakingly engineered by engineers.
@@kcw9313 few understand that reality! ❤️ ✌️
Is there a break down of the 300 series diesel engine?!
Is the model 250 shown in this video a diesel engine model, currently not available in the USA? Notice the Blue Def hose at about 2:10 in the video.
Do you think you’re getting a less watered down new Armada 2025 when comparing patrol to us armada ; lc300 to lc250?
Apart from all the techy stuff that could break, are you getting a more robust compromise with the new armada than you would from lc250?
Great video. I totally accept what you are saying about balance but as you know many LC buyers will add heavy bullbars, maybe a winch and other accessories, in such cases, wouldn't this affect the balance which the engineers have engineered and perhaps necessitate heavier shocks and potentially a small 2" lift?
@fishinbite ... frankly most will do all you mentioned soley for looks... ie a vanitymobile... we got a "bullbar", fatter skids, rock sliders, portable winch... still not lifted 🙂... if then lift is sized to _properly_ counterbalance a steel bumper carring a 80lb winch then that would be ideal... but who does that? They slap on stiffer taller springs from China that raise the vehicle 2" while deleting any downtravel/articulation
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD yes understood I guess it comes down to the intended purpose of lifting the vehicle.
Saving weight is also an economical thing for fuel usage and performance on the highway. If you can afford the 300 fuel usage wouldn’t matter as much. Many government and fleet buyers are using a lot of rav4 s for economic and virtue signaling here in Australia and no doubt the outback gravel road travelers will get the Prado.
Differences are now present from lx600 to lx700 frames. I wonder if lx600 will just be phased out in next few years and we just have the lx700
@GXTOLX yes, basically the LX600 is gone now... it's the LX700h
Patiently waiting for lexus to do whole body refresh inside and outside.
It is just a question. If you did not own the GX would you consider this truck because you had mentioned in the past looking for a smaller engine. Or would you consider it to replace your van down the road. For my usage, I really like the overall compromise of this truck for me. I do not tow, I drive in the city, and I cruise out of town at 65 or less MPH with my family. I get 28 MPG out of the GX now on the highway, I think I can get this thing to do 30+ MPG. 🤪
Nobody is getting 30+ mpg unless they are going downhill. I get 23 mpg on the highway, a bit more if very conservative. Nonetheless, it is a solid, comfortable and capable truck. I have no regrets!
@henry78560 it's hard to give up then "lux" of the GX460 or any Lexus... A LC300 GRS with a 4-cylinder non-hybrid would be ideal for us, but that's just a fantasy application as the market would complain about the lack of power in the engine... ideally a LC300 GRS in Lexus LX600 trim would be feasible in the USA... nothing is perfect... everyone just does the best they can ❤️ 😃 ✌️
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I know. This same vehicle is sold in Africa with a 2.8 diesel. Funny how Toyota will not bring their diesel 4 here. Even though the Big Three has made small diesels an option on some trucks.
@@f8PixelMagic lol. I am going out of town next month. 2100 mile trip. Taking the GX and will record the 28 MPG for you guys. I have gotten 28 MPG out of the GX and 25 MPG from my 4Runner TRD. I know I can get 30 out of the LC250. It is all in the setup. average speed, and pedal modulation. I only get when I drive them a specific way. But they are capable. I recorded the 4Runner 25 MPG just waiting to do this trip to upload both together.
But what does mpg matter? It’s meaningless at the pump and the Starbucks people order cost $150 per gallon. Just drive the vehicle. 18,22,25 mpg doesn’t matter a darn thing.
74weld makes portal axles for the gx460/4Runner. Keeps stock geometry and suspension per their website, but the portals raise it a couple of inches. Wonder what you think about roll angle pros and cons with portals. Thanks
@keeblord7383 portals are fantastic about keeping the geometry balance while increasing ground clearance... that at fat tires too.. wish toyota would make something stock with portals.. but everyone would complain about the price 😆
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I won a $500 voucher for their portals but I looked at the price for a set of 4 and it’s $20,000 lol. I wonder if there would be more articulation with just portals or if I would have to get dr kdss extenders and a 2.5 or 3.0 shock that can extend more but leave it at stock height so there’s the capacity to articulate when it needs to more
Now do gx460 vrs lc200 series frame comparation.
Regardless of weight saving measurements, this 250 frame is going to be way stronger than the C- frame from the previous Tacoma and tundra. Right?
@oceanzu6585 should be yes 😃... I thought the Tacoma frame was partially boxed and only C in some areas? double check that... but ya... the 250 frame is not a mickey mouse frame
The 250 is a Tacoma, same as the new 4Runner!
TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 👑
As I said before
The 250 is just a limited 4Runner that costs significantly more
It is essentially an appearance package
It’s frame is probably thinner so when it starts rusting it’s going to be toast years quicker
Enjoy
Trust me that guy doesn’t care about balance unless it’s a healthy balance in a Tokyo bank account😅
Oh and how come this guy didn’t notice the hideous tow bar arrangement?
Beg to differ. there is quite a difference it layout. and much more space in the back seat.
@@providentpathfinders219 I don’t see the extra space and measurement would confirm this
It looks great from the front and that is it
@@joeblack1052 go to a dealership. thats what i did. In the end everyone has an opinion that really has no worth in what others discover for themselves. Just like people crapping on the iforce Max having ZERO experience with one
@@providentpathfinders219 I have seen them in person
Can’t sit in one unless one buys it
But if I could I am sure the evidence will back me up
@@joeblack1052 uhh what? can’t sit in one unless you buy it? never heard of that….anywhere…in the us
Hopefully people can stfu now that the new 250 isn’t a real Land Cruiser. It’s been in the LC family since the early 90’s and this new Prado outperforms the 200 series in almost every way.
Genuinely curious how it outperforms the 200 in almost every way? Which ways?
I don’t buy the thinner frame on the 250 is an issue. Or that it’s any weaker than the 150 frame so, if you are comparing to the GX460, it’s not an issue.
@@Jay-me7gw it’s better in every way from a daily driving perspective. Articulation flex with the sway bar disconnect it was barely less to the 200 series. It was close enough that I would say it’s not really a deciding factor when off-roading. It gets waaaay better gas milage than a 200 series as well. Nobody’s out there bending any of Land cruiser model frames either so I don’t see how that’s even a relevant issue.
@@c1aytonbigsbyI don’t think the frame thing is an issue and it wouldn’t sway my decision in the slightest if I was in the market to buy a new Toyora
My issue with the new LC is towing. I would way rather have a 200 with the 5.7L for towing than the 2.4L hybrid. Since I need whatever truck or SUV I own to tow, the new LC is completely off the table for me. I’d only consider the GX550 and LX600 with the TTV6
@@Jay-me7gwtowing is definitely where it falls face flat.
@@c1aytonbigsby and the majority of consumers will never tow anything, at best it'll get a bike rack in the hitch.(Don't come at me with 'I tow', sure, some people do, but those people are in the minority)
Correction* land cruiser and prado
Better use the prado name because every time i get confused when you say land cruiser 250
We know the 150 and now 250 series wagons are labeled light duty by Toyota. The 200 and now 300 series are heavier vehicles.
@lillianachannel Neither the 300 or 250 are "heavy duty" trucks. The only LC that is heavy duty is the LC70... duty meaning actual workload (duty has nothing to do with offroading). Toyota classifies the LC300 as a "station wagon":
th-cam.com/video/seZCrDANUvs/w-d-xo.html
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADmy point is that the 150 and 250 were classified as light duty, but the 200 and 300 aren’t. The actual sizes of the vehicles are not different, but the towing capacities were between the light duty and station wagon. The 70 series is a different beast for sure.
While I'm highly against cheap lifts, to say the OEM suspension is the be-all end-all, well, if that's the case factory Toyota Baja/Dakar teams would all run OEM Tokicos. If your only use-case is smooth side grades, sure, keep the OEM setup for lateral stability. Here in the Pacific Northwest, overland trails are very rock / rooty, cross ditches every few hundred feet, and demand clearance + suspension travel. Any stock truck short of a Unimog would bash up their under-belly.
Toyota suspension engineers are trying to find a mix between good daily use on roads for most of the time or 99% of the time. But we want more performance offroad. Thats why the suspension industry keeps getting bigger and better.
Who wants to drive a boring stock vehicle?
@@LuaiADV no, people want lifts for LOOKS... they have zero clue that the stock vehicle already has performance built in. Tokico and KYB suspension. Most will not take their "modified" vehicle anywhere close to where an actual stock LC can go offroad. The [aftermarket] "suspension industry" is based on pretentiousness, posturing and posing (mostly):
th-cam.com/video/cz75mKJakHw/w-d-xo.html
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD there is no size that fits all. I work with tier 1 companies. I know what they are bench-marking. To assume factory suspension is the best all around performance is far, far from the truth. There are so many variables that go into suspension design. It maybe the case that in the US. The consumers are after the looks. But in global markets, things are extremely different. Again don’t look at manufacturing with just your users in mind. It has to adhere to so many different global regulations. It’s not even funny. Thats why the aftermarket is much more fun. (When done right) you will get a far superior suspension than whats offered by Toyota. A simple question to ask, who did they build the car for? What user type? Consider a global market. That will give you an idea on how factories will have to make compromises to make most accept the stock setup.
I do agree a lot people want a lift for looks but I also want it for off road performance. I’ve personally experienced the difference of off roading a stock vehicle or one with 35s and a 2.5” lift. The stock vehicle will drag its belly on the ground/rocks/snow and the lifted one will clear it. That is often the difference between getting stuck or not.
The 250 is NOT a replacement for the 300, The 300 is the larger 4X4 and the 250 (Prado) is a smaller model. In Australia we have both the Landcruiser 300 and the Toyota Prado (250) sold side by side with the 250 a smaller cheaper model.
@@WilliamVandervleut 300 and 250 are the same size/dimensions practically speaking... there is no legit size difference now like there was between the 200 and 150
YOU MEAN PRADO VS LC 300? THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE, NOT JUST THE FRAME.
Lmfoa. Late to game boss. 😅 no way toyota will make a gx like an lx. U get what u pay for. Many many more superior build qualities of lx
Sorry but three millimeters cheap-ass steel does change the weight and cost of any statistical significance.