@@joelwitha0956 How many people are going to spend $150,000 on a car, plus mods then go and thrash it off road? Not saying it's not out there but there aren't that many people with more money than brains.
@@AP-ow5vu eh I have a fair whack of money, wouldn’t say I’m dumb for buying expensive 4x4s. I can’t take my money to the grave so why can’t I spend it on cool stuff?
@@veysher3756 That's true but that doesn't mean you have to waste your money, I'd be going the the y62 any day of the week over this thing. This car will become a money pit when it's time for new injectors, turbos, DPF problems etc.
Great review. I've been selling Toyota for almost 30 years since the 80 Series update. They used to scrub tyres, pop out of gear, crack in the D pillar, all sorts of stuff. Everyone wanted to keep their 60 Series. Same when the 100's came out, then the 200 and now the 300. Reality is every generation is different but they are always an improvement. Of course, no-one is going to like every single detail like the one piece tailgate. But overall they continue to get better and better. The 300 is no different. As for the price? 30 Years ago an 80 Series Turbo Diesel GXL was well over $60k with no tech at all. In real terms they are cheaper today! But if you consider the whole of life cost including the ridiculous resale, they are far cheaper to own than most other 4WD's. Haters gonna hate but the reality is LC is the real deal.
Absolutely correct. I did my apprenticeship in a small workshop, not a dealership, and the 80 series was our bread and butter, and we had to fix many an issue. People these days bestow an almost mythical reputation on older Cruisers, often because that is all they can afford to buy.
@@rsoul7282 its because either all the shits been fixed or people dont care if little things dont work. If the centre console fridge doesnt work now, who cares? Pre 95 chassis cracking around the steering box? Just weld this plate in. They have problems but (diesel only) they dont have an over reliance on electrics to run everything. I would still take a old 80 over a 300 just because of all the electrical mess that comes with it
I just want to say that I’ve been a huge fan of 4WD 24/7 (Action) for years. I’m in the US and if commented on videos in the past. This evening I went back and look at some video clips from 5-6 years ago and I was just in awe. You guys rock, you’ve come so far as a channel and it’s been an amazing journey to see it. I just want to say thank you and keep up the great work! I plan on watching for years to come. PS my 2 year old son is a big fan too 😎 👍🏻
Hey Dyna. I think I like that the world is getting smaller. I watch a lot of US stuff but also Indian,Russian,Israeli actually all over the globe. What did we do before TH-cam?
Same here guys. I'm from the Netherlands and live about 20km from the german border (autobahn and better/cheaper fuel). Just loving the different car cultures all over the globe. And because of TH-cam we can experience it all. It used to be fantasizing with all the pictures in magazines.
Seems to be well reviewed compared to the 200, strong performance based on his video review. The location of the fuel filter or the materials used on the engine shields what you are referring to?
@@Jake_Hamlin Probably due to pending emissions and environmental requirements in most other countries. This could be the last gasoline/diesel powered variant of the Land Cruiser.
@@Ninza720 Not necessarily, i don't judge a car based off "Fuel is on passenger side" or "Small inside door handles". A quality off-road vehicle in my eyes is something that is capable and durable enough to handle whatever I need it to do. And I can't personally vouch how well the new Land cruiser is but I'm sure that Toyota did their homework and put together an excellent car that will handle whatever the people decide to throw at it.
@@Ninza720 You also state that the 200 is higher than the 300 even though the 300 is 10mm higher... I feel like you don't have any reasonable points as to why you don't like this car 😂 this isn't worth my time so reply if your still butthurt ❤🩹
Best review, and I like so many different comments as I really need help to decide which one I will go to. Been long wait for 300 that’s why didn’t get 200 and now 300 appears ugly from outside 🤣🤣will get second hand 200 ?? looks too late 🤣🤣. Please advise guys Thanks
Roof carrying capacity is 100kg down from 200kg on 200 series. A game changer for those of us carrying a reasonable tinie and gear. Great review but need more comment when towing to the max.
I would think that those plastic guards underneath are mainly there for aerodynamic purposes to reduce underbody drag since the flatter and smoother the bottom of the vehicle, the better it will perform.
The problem is with the composite sump guard. It will not offer the same protection as a metal plate. I guarantee there will be an aftermarket replacement really soon
As someone who has driven over a lot of fallen branches and small trees, a smooth undercarriage is peace of mind, plastic or not, that those things arent getting rammed in odd spots and damaging delicate boots, wires or cables.
@@alltheusernameswastaken8936 Agree 100%. First thing I did when I got my Prado was to armour the bottom of it. Every dent and scar on that heavy steel represents damage prevented to my drivetrain. For 95% of everyone else, it is just excess weight to carry around.
One of the accidental delights of the 80 series was the under body design that helped shed spinifex seed etc.and went some way to avoiding the build up that could lead to a potential fire risk if attention lapsed for a while. How will the 300 go in this respect?
Fuel filter position thoughts, may have something to do with the injection pump that it uses. All diesel injection pumps are designed for high pressure output, not suction. Perhaps the position of the filter allows the pump to be able to draw the fuel required up to the pump without the need of a lift pump (filters are basically big restrictors)
It’s a damn shame a 3T rated caravan wasn’t used in this review, most vehicles in this category will tow 2T all day everyday. Otherwise great review Shauno !
Being concerned that the 300 was a soft roader compared to the 200 is a weird view, implies the 200 is a hard core offroad which it isn't. Ever since they went to IFS with the 100 series they stopped being serious offroaders and aimed for better road manners for the grey nomads and the school run. The 300 is just another incremental change of the 200 with comfortable family car being the main focus.
The reality is they need to keep up with other manufacturers. If it was still “mechanical” it wouldn’t be accepted by the 99% buyers who will likely never overland it. It just is how it needs to be.
Not a massive fan of the look, and I personally think that electric handbrake and electric everything is a let down for 4wdriving but in saying that comparison to other new vehicles 4wds it’s pretty good just a good 40-50k more than the likes of an mux or something with the same features. Would be more suited to those looking for a touring rig than a track ready 4wd in my opinion. Can’t wait to see the aftermarket components they come up with.
Bro don't think the target demographic of the 300 is people who will thrash it on glassy runs. It's marketed at city people who want a big 4 wheel drive to drop the kids at school and maybe tow the van or boat once a year
@@tobycooper4639 I understand that most people watching this want an “allrounder” I’m not saying it’s not a good car I’m just saying in comparison its just mid pack with all the other 4wd wagons and they’re 40k cheaper, just pointing out some things that they made out to be amazing things when in reality it is the opposite.
I think modern day 4wds have it all over older 4wds as comfortable long-distance touring rigs. However, the older rigs seem far better in the hardcore tracks.
@@rodriguez3939 True, not many take their pricey 4x4s in the tracks that can damage the vehicle, but you still see a lots of 200s and Land Rovers over there, and they ain't much cheaper.
The 200 is a Mum bus where I live, not many will see off road duty. The new one seems to be an embodiment of the wealthy or heavily in-debt brigade at the school gate.
Same way here in the USA 99% of jeeps will never see dirt....I was excited when Jeep anounced the wagoner coming back but it's just 120k kid bus and looks nothing like the released photos they put out
Most towing with a 200 series are towing around the 3t. So would of been good to hear how it went towing closer to it's 3500kg tow rating. Has the payload been increased from the piddly 610kg that the GXL 200 series has? 3t caravan use's up close to half of the 200 series payload in the caravan towball load, leaving roughly 300kg left for passengers, luggage, after market accessories, fridge before exceeding the GVM. Great review, just wished that you covered more of what the vehicle would really be used for.
Completely agree. These guys have done enough off-road travel to be aware for this. Makes me wonder if they softballed the review just to keep Toyota happy.
@@juanitaburt5281 if the float has a GTM of 2500kg (2.5t) and is a 2 horse float I would have it weighed with horses on board. I think a 300 series would tow 2500kg without any drama. Problem would be waiting for a 300 series to be delivered. I've heard rumors that they aren't taking orders as wait time has blown out to 3yrs. I haven't chased up to confirm if that is true or not.
"why is the fuel filter not in the engine bay" ? Heat, thats why. Any hot v engines get hot AF. i can only imagine how hot this thing is gonna get towing a caravan up a hill in the middle of summer.
Great video. Not sure about the rig though, looked more than capable in OEM form, but not too sure if it is a tough truck. Smallest size wheel are 18s, not enough clearance in guards for 33s, a challenge to get a 2" lift in it given the CV angles, fuel filter near wheel arch, plastic underbody protection and thin aluminum panels. Ah well, I'll never be able to afford one anyway.
Too be fair that's what everyone up grades anyway. Everyone gets a lift and tyres and underbody stuff. And I'm sure be easy too make a alloy guard for the fuel filter
@@remyche8768 problem is, they aren’t easily upgraded anymore. The lift will make the drive train much weaker due to CV angles so you’ll have reliability issues doing even small lifts.
Agree mostly but 18” wheels are no issue, better and better tyre choices available now, and allows for better brakes, and the stock tyre size now is 2” bigger than it was 20 years ago with the likes of the 80 series.
@@melshingleton7865 and? You do realise that doesn’t solve the entire issue and compromises other things. Other makes handle a lift without having to make compromises like that.
Firstly great review, very objective and great to hear your admission that you had a negative view prior to testing and was pleasantly surprised. I have a Sahara (bottom end) on order and cant wait to get out there. Having sat in one and driven one (300) series, it is way in front of the 200 (which is a great vehicle) but in 100000k's my view may change. I would think that in 2 - 5 years the 300 will be the new bench mark and if we trust the engineers, technology and future safety enhancements it will be a wow of a vehicle. Again great review
You guys should do a proper comparison away on hard tracks with a stock y62 like you do with the 4x4 utes every year because all the mall crawler reviews every other car media company does is rubbish
I’m currently on the fence about wanting one, but like most will wait and see what the after market boys can do first as I’m not a fan of the bar or not having any lift etc.
I live in Dubai and bought mine about a week after release. I have the 3.5l twin turbo petrol and it’s an awesome vehicle. Issue I have is it’s a bit low and would love a 2 inch lift. It eats the desert driving and have taken it up some very steep mountains. It’s just at home on the highway and active cruise control locked at 160kmh between Abu Dhabi and the Saudi border is a dream and feels very safe. Drives and handles like a BMW on the tarmac. Shauno how about some gear for us Aussies in the Sandpit. 🤣
I fell that even though it has a huge price tag, it handles great for being stock, even though its not perfect, after market companies will come with stuff to make this car even more capable.
Brilliant review. I think they’re probably missing what much of the Australian market wants - bigger displacement for longevity and solid construction for reliability. But we’re a small market.. I was impressed with the traction control and articulation for a stock vehicle! Be interesting to see how these evolve with aftermarket accessories. Hoping to see you guys do a similar review of an Ineos Grenadier next year when they arrive here! I reckon they’ve got the potential to be really popular here.
C'mon Shauno. The 40 series didn't open up Australia. Do yourself a favour and read about Len Beadell. He singlehandedly opened up more of Oz than any LC did, and he never saw a 40 series. He mostly used Series One Land Rovers.
Ok I give U this Rovers were 1st on the sence and were the weapon of choice but once Toyota bought out the LandCruiser it was bigger tougher had a good diesel and reliable with the good old Rovers were none of those things so Shaun might have the wrong choice of words they built Australia just look out on stations mine sites farms anywhere there's hard going and it will mostly be LandCruiser's been put to work
@@carlmenzel8744 shauno is a Toyota shill. Regardless I wouldn't trust anything a media company says about this new truck. It seems it's being praised when it's not that great. Shawno grow a set bro say the truth
Great review as always guys. It seems an excellent car based on all reviews out there, and built well like all Toyota’s. I think people critical of its modernization don’t get it. It’s unfortunately the way new cars are with so many safety and emission regs. If u don’t like ifs then go buy a 79series. Toyota has given you two landcruiser options, but people still complain??
New models designs aren't driven by consumer requests, they're driven by incoming regulations. What the buyer gets is the best the designers can work around.
Toyota has given 2 quite poor landcruiser options, 79/76s are absolute rubbish vehicles, and overpriced. This one is certainly not worth the price tag either. Toyota knows idiots will still buy it even when it's not worth the money cuz idiots believe they're "toyota tuff!" when they have some of the poorest running gear
Right. Also, IFS are only getting better every day and they always have the solid rear axles in all the Land Cruisers where most of the diff action actually matters anyway.
To make more power than the old bigger engine with a much smaller capacity, that thing must be running alot of boost, longevity will be interesting to see! Hasn't been a strong point for other manufactures downsizing engines..
I'm personally not in the market for a Toyota Land Cruiser 300, unfortunately, but I'm so glad to know what I do now from watching your video. That was a very good vehicle review! You guys are so great. Good Stuff, Shauno!!!
As someone who owns and loves a GU, I'd say there are plenty of modern 4WDs that are at least as capable, if not far more. But I wouldn't feel as confident driving any of them into the middle of nowhere. I know my Patrol will always get me there and back.
I'm not usually a fan of new vehicles, with all the electronic trickery etc etc. But the 300 series did the job. I would like to see you guys torture test the new Ineos Grenadier when it lands. They're saying it's built on purpose, would like to see if you could prove otherwise!! Loving this channel. Best on TH-cam.
I find that an interesting comment as someone who owned and did a lot of 4WDing in a Prado with a 2 inch lift and now has a 200 series similarly modded. My experience is that the Prado is more capable than any twin cab ute and pretty much any other 4WD wagon with ifs. The Landcruiser is slightly better due to bigger tyres and more grunt off-road. Where it really steps up is on road where the Landcruiser simply a more refined and more powerful car. Given the new 300 series is more refined and powerful on road and slightly more capable off-road than the 200 series, it seems to be exactly what I would expect the 300 series to be. For the record, I don’t find the 300 series to be particularly tempting me to trade my 200 series in though. That may be more about the v8 noise than logic though.
ever seen i saw the tests several months ago, i've been looking forward to your take on this. your experience with 4wd's really shows compared to everyone else!
It would be good if the expert Aussie's could band together and manufacture a vehicle again. We've got all the materials, knowledge and high quality workmanship. Its easy said then done I know. Instead of selling our materials overseas thinking we making a quid and getting ripped off again. I don't know it would just be good to take pride in something we've done
I suspect that isn't going to happen because it's much more fun for the politicians to charge stupid levels of purchase and import taxes, than actually employ people locally to make a more suitable product - after all, why on earth would they want to make peoples lives better...
@@rosiehawtrey and J M The same thing is happening with most of us AKA I'm in USA. Export our best to be made and copied then sold back for more. Plus being taxed on both ends of it. I've wondered WTF happened to the Subaru's of past, I always liked the US marketed Brat of long past and the Outback from not so long ago. I wish that we still had off-road areas like you still do. Don't let them take that away from you too. Like other things you've gave up already.
@@DB-yj3qc I think we had what you call the Brat, odd looking station wagon type thing, woman in my village had one for decades. I've a triumph vitesse & Wolseley 18/85 at the moment. If you have any spare snipers you don't need... We have a Priti Patel shaped problem that needs dealing with, she's such a psychotic vicious little nutter she'd have Reinhardt Heydrich screaming for his mummy in about 45 seconds. Yeah, we have a similar problem with Chinese knocking stuff off - but what can you do? Prices have to be cheap but people want local jobs - and none of them are bright enough to work it out. We don't have democracy, we have a duh-mocracy... And the irony - the idiots are whining about everything that's going on are the same idiots who put the government there to do them over in the first place. Its just pitiful. I'm constantly amazed how long we've survived and that we aren't already extinct.
He literally tested it off-road and said it was good... Although it looks like a clumsy mall crawler with its IFS and plastic everything. The 4WD 24-7 are fanboys of Toyota and Nissans though (and Isuzu when they give them enough money 😆)
300 owners may be the same as 200 owners. They’ll hesitate to take them off-road cause of how damn much the 300 set them back new or used and how much it would cost them if they damage the panels.
@@jacobloft3898 it would be much cheaper to repair then it would with say an 80 series or a 105 etc, mainly because they are older and are hard to get parts for, my dads 105 is swapped to an fte, so engine parts are pretty easy.
@@kadenmackriell4751 you have no idea mate 80 series parts are everywhere and cheap as ? Worst case you can buy a blown up fz whole car for under 5g…. Parts forever …. No way an 80s panel cost more to replace haha
@@joshuabaldwin3341 recently, because of Covid tax it costs a lot more, and the only parts that are every where aren’t genuine and are cheap and weak. Just to repair the rear quarter on my dads 105 last year it cost him 4 grand, and the mechanic did mess up wich is why it cost extra. And not buying a whole car for 5 grand, not in a shape where it’s worth repairing
great review they look nice in the flesh great to see a serious high milage review. as you say it will tell after 100 000 klm. Its proves that Toyota take the Australian market very serious im sure their engineers did some pretty savage testing. looking forward to when you guys get one :D
Just wait till you drive Grahams Y62....... Nice car, but over-priced, and over-rated...... Yeah..... proud Y62 owner, and loving it ! ! ! I think they forgot about the fuel filter thingy......lol
i've a v6 turbo diesel, not had any issues with power off road or towing, surprisingly the fuel economy is quite good as well and quite a bit better than the old V8
I'd be very keen to see where the aftermarket industry will fit a 2nd battery under the engine bay - it's a tight fit in there. I wonder if there is enough room between the radiator and the front grill to fit a battery there? Plus given how the Landcruiser is Toyota's premier "real" offroad vehicle, I'm still perplex that Toyota hasn't reposition the alternator much higher in the engine bay, to provide additional protection and ease of access.
Very detailed video, my view re this 300 is its designed more like Prado in Landcruiser box, more urban usage than off-road. It will do just fine Toyota probably tested LC300 in Australia before releasing it. I do have few concerns: - Number of features are better than LC200 out of factory; however most of them are to be replaced/added with after market (suspension, diff lock...). Thus here gone the advantages. - The difficulties to upgrade considering how LC300 is built especially those 265 tyres (look like from Prado); upgrades wont be cheap on top of expensive price tag. - After mods are in, all the flimsy parts are replaced, can that engine be at the same efficient level as its now? - Its interesting to know how LC300 cope with bigger and heavier caravan; the Landcruiser is expected to tow 3500kg (and more with upgrade; again have to take in a lot more weight added due to mods).
Impossible to make a judgement call this early. Need some time to pass to see if this will earn it's Toyota stripes. Also interesting that everyone forgets the bagging the LC200 copped when it came out, but look at it now.
Can't wait to see the electric HB fail on a steep hill from water in the electrics or damage to the wiring. Still, Shauno could always prop it up against a tree as normal. Lol.
Still cops it from everyone whos not a landcruiser fan boy.. Super overrated, average interior, average V8, shocking fuel economy, styling from the 90s in all senses of the word, still uses a fkn live rear axel in this day and age, Toyota ownership are licking laughing their arses off watching plebs continue to buy them for the over inflated prices. lets not forget how the lc200 Needs all the aftermarket modifications to make it a decent tourer as they come with fk all from factory, and not to mention how over priced they are for what you get as a 'luxury' 125k+ vehicle. Baffling to be honest
@@dartmoordave while I wouldn't trust a Hybrid in a touring set up. Electric motors in cars are actually more water tight than combustion engines. I would be worried about the fact they pumped 39Psi through a small cylinder capacity, V formation engine.
@@lewiev7560 live rear axels are used where strenght is needed for say like Road Trains and other tractor trailers they are made for long use and abuse..
Toyota die hards will never admit this, but LC300’s spec is almost on par with a 2013 Land Rover Discovery 4. That traction control is impressive to Toyota owners, but the D4 had a better one, which allowed less slip, back in 2013. It’s also funny that a single-axle 2T caravan is “big” for Shauno. I overtake trucks in my D4 with 3.5T attached without any effort.
😂 Yes I laughed about the 2T BIG VAN too 😂. Shauno doesn’t realise there already gangs of grandads out there hitching up the 4tonne Junko caravans as we speak…….now they’ll be going even faster now with 10 gears to redline 🤣 Ps: Sorry for you are: Driving a D4 🤦♂️
But the stats dont lie, Land Rover dukes out last place in reliability along with Fiat...not saying that you cant have a good one, but under engineered complexity will ultimately bite the owner in the long run...something even the 300 might have to contend with, time will tell.
My '09 grand vitara has the active traction control too. It might be a tad more responsive than the 300's and as you said, its no substitute for lockers.... BUT... It works so damn well. I have so far taken it to montezuma falls, climbies track and grandville harbour dunes and it crawled it all with ease. Climies was done with a mate in his 80 series with 4" lift and 33's or 35's and I did all the obsticals that he did without issue. The TC is bloody good in the right car.
The traction control on this looked useless! The only reason it kept going was because it was down hill. Spinning the wheel like an idiot when it was off the ground. Mitsubishi had this working better 20 years ago.
If it's done right, the sensors are sealed off from water and dust. If they do happen to get any then the wheel bearing won't be far behind. Atleast that is how it's set up on mine. And then they reset and recalibrate themselves when you drive anyway. I still want lockers for mine but having TC has pushed it right down to the bottom of my priority list. Hell, lockers are only good until they brake, compressor dies or a leak in an airline occurs. 🤷. They both have their faults
Gotta allow for some spin otherwise you'd have it tripping when you make tight turns. But yea, it was a little extreme here. But even if it was up hill, it would still go. Shauno should have commited a tad more and used the go pedal to help it. He looked to be using it expecting it to drive for him. It works the brakes, not the throttle.
To be fair, Toyota do still make the 79. This is just a different type of LC. Times are changing but respect to Toyota for still making the 79 and a hilux you can actually afford to buy
Exactly. It looks pretty bad to be honest. The tires look very skinny. I have a 200 series and it looks way better, not to mention that new tailgate. Really like my split gate from 200 series
I can absolutely confirm this vehicle is built for Australian conditions. I would love to see a review on the GR-S. it was built to be fully modded for the typical GXL buyers who modify their cars, and the GR-S has a front, centre and rear diff lock as well as the e-KDSS.
Hey Shauno, please stop using the word ‘dampening’ when talking about suspension, it’s damping. Great video. I’m still a fan of the 80 series. Always will be. Thank you for the great review!
Great review Shauno. Maybe some steep sand climbing would have been a good addition - to get the best out of the 300. You did well to get a vehicle to review!
The fact this isn’t available in Canada is mind blowing to me, would sell like crazy. The aluminum build body means no rust, even in our harsh winter climates mixed with salts and sands.
G'day Shawn, all new models of 4x4 built today have had corners cut to keep the profits ticking over, unless you spend big on upgrades they all pull up wanting when it comes to the hard stuff, thanks for the truthful review, cheers mate, Neil 🤠.
Thanks Shaun and nice too see an honest review and admit to your initial concerns - not everyone is a ‘gotta have a big V8 grunt with loud exhaust and beer mate’ driver - thank goodness for aluminium which hopefully means no more Landcruiser ‘factory rust’ to deal with - I know a someone who had to sell her 2004 Troop-carrier for $6k because of the typical rust in the window corners and rain gutters - the new 300 series looks like a well packaged cruiser to me and nothing wrong with a V6 if well engineered and reliable - John in SA
Needed a stock 200 series there for direct comparission. Nobody builds an extreme off road vehicle anymore. The Discovery 3 has the disel filter mounted on the chassis (under the pedals) But it's well tucked away. You said pretty much the same as what everybody said about the 200 series at the start.
That's what makes me laugh 😂 this really isn't that different from a 200 but everyone is having a fit and calling it soft because it doesn't have a V8... People would have said the same crap when the 100 came out with IFS. If you want a solid axle "tough" 4wd I guess there's the 70 series - just make sure you've got $40k to fix all its problems and make it a comfy drive 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@matthewbinks8923 Yup, just need to change the clutch, diff ratio, do a leaf spring flip or coil conversion, correct the rear track, change the seats.......
I think it’d be a nice touch if the mounting holes for the plastic aerodynamic ‘skid plate’ were made durable enough to mount an after market steel skid plate to. Then it’d work as a school run car but can be easily modified for the off-road market
This is quite comprehensive, no nonsense and good to know if good for overlanding or just for tarmac. Can you do a similar review also for the Prado and the Fortuner or super stretch to the Australian designed Ford Everest
@@madmick3794 I understood that the motors are alright. As for safety features, I don't really care a stuff, as long as it's a good off-roader😂. Time will tell how good it is mate, but tbh, its worth giving a go 🤙
@@MothyEmms had a car with the petrol they are using, the plastic sensors, wiring and their poor fuel filtering are pathetic. Boss had the diesel, he replaced it with a Range Rover and some how it has been border line better
@@madmick3794 fair enough buddy. I'm gonna wait until it's been properly tested here in Oz before I make a decision. The concept of it is very appealing tho
@@MothyEmms I love the idea, only thing that might kill it is they are looking at banning vehicles with out passive safety fitted. No new "Postie bikes", the Honda's, can be registered here any more because they are required to have dual channel ABS.
For those interested, the centre console comfortably fits a cucumber sandwich. Sahara and GR Sport also chill the sandwich in the centre console.
A car I had from 1996 had both centre console and glovebox cooling. And it wasn't $100k+ 😆
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@@markvankleef584 was it a zephyr
Still suffering from Landcruiser's biggest fault, no longer in the price range of people who would actually use them as a 4wd.
Are you saying people that make decent money don't go offroad? Wtf.
@@joelwitha0956 How many people are going to spend $150,000 on a car, plus mods then go and thrash it off road? Not saying it's not out there but there aren't that many people with more money than brains.
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@@AP-ow5vu eh I have a fair whack of money, wouldn’t say I’m dumb for buying expensive 4x4s. I can’t take my money to the grave so why can’t I spend it on cool stuff?
@@veysher3756 That's true but that doesn't mean you have to waste your money, I'd be going the the y62 any day of the week over this thing. This car will become a money pit when it's time for new injectors, turbos, DPF problems etc.
Great review. I've been selling Toyota for almost 30 years since the 80 Series update. They used to scrub tyres, pop out of gear, crack in the D pillar, all sorts of stuff. Everyone wanted to keep their 60 Series. Same when the 100's came out, then the 200 and now the 300. Reality is every generation is different but they are always an improvement. Of course, no-one is going to like every single detail like the one piece tailgate. But overall they continue to get better and better. The 300 is no different. As for the price? 30 Years ago an 80 Series Turbo Diesel GXL was well over $60k with no tech at all. In real terms they are cheaper today! But if you consider the whole of life cost including the ridiculous resale, they are far cheaper to own than most other 4WD's. Haters gonna hate but the reality is LC is the real deal.
If you bring in inflation, the 80 series costs more.
Edit: did the maths and it would be worth $104K in todays money.
2003 Sahara 80k is 121k todays money
@@swarm270 damn. Shit was worth heaps back then too
Absolutely correct. I did my apprenticeship in a small workshop, not a dealership, and the 80 series was our bread and butter, and we had to fix many an issue. People these days bestow an almost mythical reputation on older Cruisers, often because that is all they can afford to buy.
@@rsoul7282 its because either all the shits been fixed or people dont care if little things dont work. If the centre console fridge doesnt work now, who cares? Pre 95 chassis cracking around the steering box? Just weld this plate in. They have problems but (diesel only) they dont have an over reliance on electrics to run everything. I would still take a old 80 over a 300 just because of all the electrical mess that comes with it
I just want to say that I’ve been a huge fan of 4WD 24/7 (Action) for years. I’m in the US and if commented on videos in the past. This evening I went back and look at some video clips from 5-6 years ago and I was just in awe. You guys rock, you’ve come so far as a channel and it’s been an amazing journey to see it. I just want to say thank you and keep up the great work! I plan on watching for years to come.
PS my 2 year old son is a big fan too 😎 👍🏻
Hey Dyna. I think I like that the world is getting smaller. I watch a lot of US stuff but also Indian,Russian,Israeli actually all over the globe. What did we do before TH-cam?
@@garryrichardson4572 magazines mostly. Peterson’s 4WD and Fourwheeler. There was a couple Toyota magazines I checked out too.
Same here guys. I'm from the Netherlands and live about 20km from the german border (autobahn and better/cheaper fuel). Just loving the different car cultures all over the globe. And because of TH-cam we can experience it all. It used to be fantasizing with all the pictures in magazines.
USA watchers chime in! Meee, haha!
@@dynahack505 Hi
The old saying “they don’t make them like they used to” just proves itself time and time again. 90s Toyota will always be the pinnacle in my opinion.
No mate 70’s
Seems to be well reviewed compared to the 200, strong performance based on his video review. The location of the fuel filter or the materials used on the engine shields what you are referring to?
@@nzmarkb8713 between the over engineering of sports cars and 4wds it’s not even close imo
Toyota has always tried to fix things that ain't broken, I mean they stopped using the JZ engines ffs
@@Jake_Hamlin Probably due to pending emissions and environmental requirements in most other countries. This could be the last gasoline/diesel powered variant of the Land Cruiser.
This is a proper 4wd review, well done mate and keep them coming!
@@Ninza720 Some of these points are completely unreasonable 😂
@@Ninza720 Not necessarily, i don't judge a car based off "Fuel is on passenger side" or "Small inside door handles". A quality off-road vehicle in my eyes is something that is capable and durable enough to handle whatever I need it to do. And I can't personally vouch how well the new Land cruiser is but I'm sure that Toyota did their homework and put together an excellent car that will handle whatever the people decide to throw at it.
@@Ninza720 You also state that the 200 is higher than the 300 even though the 300 is 10mm higher... I feel like you don't have any reasonable points as to why you don't like this car 😂 this isn't worth my time so reply if your still butthurt ❤🩹
Best review, and I like so many different comments as I really need help to decide which one I will go to. Been long wait for 300 that’s why didn’t get 200 and now 300 appears ugly from outside 🤣🤣will get second hand 200 ?? looks too late 🤣🤣.
Please advise guys
Thanks
@@Ninza720, yep I reckon you right, Thanks
Exceptionally well done! This sets a new standard for how off-road vehicles and SUVs should be tested.
Can U do a kickflip
1 million % best review giving the people the info they actually want
Roof carrying capacity is 100kg down from 200kg on 200 series. A game changer for those of us carrying a reasonable tinie and gear.
Great review but need more comment when towing to the max.
I would think that those plastic guards underneath are mainly there for aerodynamic purposes to reduce underbody drag since the flatter and smoother the bottom of the vehicle, the better it will perform.
The problem is with the composite sump guard. It will not offer the same protection as a metal plate. I guarantee there will be an aftermarket replacement really soon
As someone who has driven over a lot of fallen branches and small trees, a smooth undercarriage is peace of mind, plastic or not, that those things arent getting rammed in odd spots and damaging delicate boots, wires or cables.
@@alltheusernameswastaken8936 ppp
@@alltheusernameswastaken8936 Agree 100%. First thing I did when I got my Prado was to armour the bottom of it. Every dent and scar on that heavy steel represents damage prevented to my drivetrain.
For 95% of everyone else, it is just excess weight to carry around.
One of the accidental delights of the 80 series was the under body design that helped shed spinifex seed etc.and went some way to avoiding the build up that could lead to a potential fire risk if attention lapsed for a while. How will the 300 go in this respect?
Fuel filter position thoughts, may have something to do with the injection pump that it uses. All diesel injection pumps are designed for high pressure output, not suction. Perhaps the position of the filter allows the pump to be able to draw the fuel required up to the pump without the need of a lift pump (filters are basically big restrictors)
It’s a damn shame a 3T rated caravan wasn’t used in this review, most vehicles in this category will tow 2T all day everyday. Otherwise great review Shauno !
I'd love to see a review like this on the new defender. Just to see some real world stuff
Being concerned that the 300 was a soft roader compared to the 200 is a weird view, implies the 200 is a hard core offroad which it isn't. Ever since they went to IFS with the 100 series they stopped being serious offroaders and aimed for better road manners for the grey nomads and the school run. The 300 is just another incremental change of the 200 with comfortable family car being the main focus.
Soft roader only according to some cause not a v8 now lol
The reality is they need to keep up with other manufacturers. If it was still “mechanical” it wouldn’t be accepted by the 99% buyers who will likely never overland it. It just is how it needs to be.
Yep and the plastic under car guards is nothing new. The 100s have the too
IFS doesn’t make it a soft roader IMO. Much better in the soft sand and in the corrugations. I was worried about clearance though.
Do any of the Japanese 4x4's still have solid beam axles?
Not a massive fan of the look, and I personally think that electric handbrake and electric everything is a let down for 4wdriving but in saying that comparison to other new vehicles 4wds it’s pretty good just a good 40-50k more than the likes of an mux or something with the same features. Would be more suited to those looking for a touring rig than a track ready 4wd in my opinion. Can’t wait to see the aftermarket components they come up with.
Bro don't think the target demographic of the 300 is people who will thrash it on glassy runs. It's marketed at city people who want a big 4 wheel drive to drop the kids at school and maybe tow the van or boat once a year
@@tobycooper4639 I understand that most people watching this want an “allrounder” I’m not saying it’s not a good car I’m just saying in comparison its just mid pack with all the other 4wd wagons and they’re 40k cheaper, just pointing out some things that they made out to be amazing things when in reality it is the opposite.
Yeah the look is pretty shit but we will probably get used to it
Just give us a prado with the v6. Ill be thrilled ;)
@@brockeighty expert
I think modern day 4wds have it all over older 4wds as comfortable long-distance touring rigs. However, the older rigs seem far better in the hardcore tracks.
Let's be honest how many people hit hard tracks. Not many if any,
Not many in a car worth what these are. Old 4x4s are only better because they can handle a dent or two.
Unfortunately due to homologations you can't have older models and newer sold together like they do in Africa :(
@@putnamehereholdmadoodle agreed.
@@rodriguez3939 True, not many take their pricey 4x4s in the tracks that can damage the vehicle, but you still see a lots of 200s and Land Rovers over there, and they ain't much cheaper.
Love the bent side step Shauno. Thanks for the review
Well, what else needs to be said. This is the ONLY place to go for 4wd reviews and news. Well done to all the 4WD 24-7 folks.
The 200 is a Mum bus where I live, not many will see off road duty. The new one seems to be an embodiment of the wealthy or heavily in-debt brigade at the school gate.
Same way here in the USA 99% of jeeps will never see dirt....I was excited when Jeep anounced the wagoner coming back but it's just 120k kid bus and looks nothing like the released photos they put out
Most towing with a 200 series are towing around the 3t. So would of been good to hear how it went towing closer to it's 3500kg tow rating. Has the payload been increased from the piddly 610kg that the GXL 200 series has? 3t caravan use's up close to half of the 200 series payload in the caravan towball load, leaving roughly 300kg left for passengers, luggage, after market accessories, fridge before exceeding the GVM. Great review, just wished that you covered more of what the vehicle would really be used for.
Completely agree. These guys have done enough off-road travel to be aware for this. Makes me wonder if they softballed the review just to keep Toyota happy.
Exactly. If you're towing less than 3 tonnes there are many other vehicles to choose from, especially if you have less than 4 children.
I wish he tested towing a 3.5t caravan or horse float. Any ideas of the capability of towing 3,5T since I have a heavy horse float a GVM 2.5 T
@@juanitaburt5281 if the float has a GTM of 2500kg (2.5t) and is a 2 horse float I would have it weighed with horses on board. I think a 300 series would tow 2500kg without any drama. Problem would be waiting for a 300 series to be delivered. I've heard rumors that they aren't taking orders as wait time has blown out to 3yrs. I haven't chased up to confirm if that is true or not.
@@waynelemmon3007 thank you
"why is the fuel filter not in the engine bay" ?
Heat, thats why. Any hot v engines get hot AF. i can only imagine how hot this thing is gonna get towing a caravan up a hill in the middle of summer.
Great video. Not sure about the rig though, looked more than capable in OEM form, but not too sure if it is a tough truck. Smallest size wheel are 18s, not enough clearance in guards for 33s, a challenge to get a 2" lift in it given the CV angles, fuel filter near wheel arch, plastic underbody protection and thin aluminum panels. Ah well, I'll never be able to afford one anyway.
Too be fair that's what everyone up grades anyway. Everyone gets a lift and tyres and underbody stuff. And I'm sure be easy too make a alloy guard for the fuel filter
@@remyche8768 problem is, they aren’t easily upgraded anymore. The lift will make the drive train much weaker due to CV angles so you’ll have reliability issues doing even small lifts.
Agree mostly but 18” wheels are no issue, better and better tyre choices available now, and allows for better brakes, and the stock tyre size now is 2” bigger than it was 20 years ago with the likes of the 80 series.
@@TheBremse They already make a diff drop kit. In the states it sells for $280.00.
@@melshingleton7865 and? You do realise that doesn’t solve the entire issue and compromises other things. Other makes handle a lift without having to make compromises like that.
Firstly great review, very objective and great to hear your admission that you had a negative view prior to testing and was pleasantly surprised. I have a Sahara (bottom end) on order and cant wait to get out there. Having sat in one and driven one (300) series, it is way in front of the 200 (which is a great vehicle) but in 100000k's my view may change. I would think that in 2 - 5 years the 300 will be the new bench mark and if we trust the engineers, technology and future safety enhancements it will be a wow of a vehicle. Again great review
You guys should do a proper comparison away on hard tracks with a stock y62 like you do with the 4x4 utes every year because all the mall crawler reviews every other car media company does is rubbish
mate graham has a y62 just got it chopped and shaun has a 200 series so we will see this for sure very soon
Y62, a 300 and a defender just to see how they all go
Chuck a grenadier in as well
I’m currently on the fence about wanting one, but like most will wait and see what the after market boys can do first as I’m not a fan of the bar or not having any lift etc.
I live in Dubai and bought mine about a week after release. I have the 3.5l twin turbo petrol and it’s an awesome vehicle. Issue I have is it’s a bit low and would love a 2 inch lift. It eats the desert driving and have taken it up some very steep mountains. It’s just at home on the highway and active cruise control locked at 160kmh between Abu Dhabi and the Saudi border is a dream and feels very safe. Drives and handles like a BMW on the tarmac. Shauno how about some gear for us Aussies in the Sandpit. 🤣
Sounds unreal both the car and terrain! Lucky bugger... we get ours in April can't wait..
I’m sure it absolutely guzzles fuel with that petrol motor, but petrol would be cheap where u r.
Diesel is the motor for this for Australia
I have always had an interest in the Landcruiser and found your presentation informative and balanced...great job
Bought one to sell it, but it's so good to drive as a daily, I want to keep it now.... what a 4WD . I love it
I fell that even though it has a huge price tag, it handles great for being stock, even though its not perfect, after market companies will come with stuff to make this car even more capable.
Brilliant review. I think they’re probably missing what much of the Australian market wants - bigger displacement for longevity and solid construction for reliability. But we’re a small market.. I was impressed with the traction control and articulation for a stock vehicle! Be interesting to see how these evolve with aftermarket accessories.
Hoping to see you guys do a similar review of an Ineos Grenadier next year when they arrive here! I reckon they’ve got the potential to be really popular here.
C'mon Shauno. The 40 series didn't open up Australia. Do yourself a favour and read about Len Beadell. He singlehandedly opened up more of Oz than any LC did, and he never saw a 40 series. He mostly used Series One Land Rovers.
Don’t think he cares
yep
Ok I give U this Rovers were 1st on the sence and were the weapon of choice but once Toyota bought out the LandCruiser it was bigger tougher had a good diesel and reliable with the good old Rovers were none of those things so Shaun might have the wrong choice of words they built Australia just look out on stations mine sites farms anywhere there's hard going and it will mostly be LandCruiser's been put to work
@@carlmenzel8744 shauno is a Toyota shill. Regardless I wouldn't trust anything a media company says about this new truck. It seems it's being praised when it's not that great. Shawno grow a set bro say the truth
well the first rovers got produced years before any 40 series so there's that 😂
best review for the 300 yet (world wide). well done to the 4wd 24-7 team
Love to see it back up on the hoist and have a look under it again after the test drive
that was after the test drive
You to try the GR version.
It has three lockers with better off road suspension and better ground clearance.
No split tailgate - that's a deal-breaker for me. I'll keep my 200 Series, thanks.
Very comprehensive review of the big 300! Great work guys
Great review as always guys.
It seems an excellent car based on all reviews out there, and built well like all Toyota’s.
I think people critical of its modernization don’t get it. It’s unfortunately the way new cars are with so many safety and emission regs.
If u don’t like ifs then go buy a 79series. Toyota has given you two landcruiser options, but people still complain??
great review what did they do it its brand new.
New models designs aren't driven by consumer requests, they're driven by incoming regulations. What the buyer gets is the best the designers can work around.
We get it all right the 300 is evolving into a cx7
Toyota has given 2 quite poor landcruiser options, 79/76s are absolute rubbish vehicles, and overpriced. This one is certainly not worth the price tag either. Toyota knows idiots will still buy it even when it's not worth the money cuz idiots believe they're "toyota tuff!" when they have some of the poorest running gear
Right. Also, IFS are only getting better every day and they always have the solid rear axles in all the Land Cruisers where most of the diff action actually matters anyway.
Great review, well done. I will say though, that with new rear disc rotors and drum shoes, my 80 series now has a very capable hand brake!
To make more power than the old bigger engine with a much smaller capacity, that thing must be running alot of boost, longevity will be interesting to see! Hasn't been a strong point for other manufactures downsizing engines..
But toyota still throttling it so should last a while. Toyota will never make a land cruiser that won't last at least 15 years
I'm personally not in the market for a Toyota Land Cruiser 300, unfortunately, but I'm so glad to know what I do now from watching your video. That was a very good vehicle review! You guys are so great. Good Stuff, Shauno!!!
Nothing beats a GU Patrol or 80 series mate
Couldnt agree with you more.
As someone who owns and loves a GU, I'd say there are plenty of modern 4WDs that are at least as capable, if not far more. But I wouldn't feel as confident driving any of them into the middle of nowhere. I know my Patrol will always get me there and back.
@@glennhook2180 must have a weak patrol bud
@@joshuabaldwin3341 and yet it still does the job.
@@andrew81au read what he said mate then read my comment before attacking the wrong bloke haha
I'm not usually a fan of new vehicles, with all the electronic trickery etc etc. But the 300 series did the job.
I would like to see you guys torture test the new Ineos Grenadier when it lands. They're saying it's built on purpose, would like to see if you could prove otherwise!! Loving this channel. Best on TH-cam.
It looks more like an updated prado than a replacement for the 200.
Lol.....
Y62 knock off with an extra 30k added to the price tag
@@ollysfishing4231 they are a v8 ya tosser
Ay it also the same engine
I find that an interesting comment as someone who owned and did a lot of 4WDing in a Prado with a 2 inch lift and now has a 200 series similarly modded. My experience is that the Prado is more capable than any twin cab ute and pretty much any other 4WD wagon with ifs. The Landcruiser is slightly better due to bigger tyres and more grunt off-road. Where it really steps up is on road where the Landcruiser simply a more refined and more powerful car. Given the new 300 series is more refined and powerful on road and slightly more capable off-road than the 200 series, it seems to be exactly what I would expect the 300 series to be.
For the record, I don’t find the 300 series to be particularly tempting me to trade my 200 series in though. That may be more about the v8 noise than logic though.
Thanks for a detailed tests. It provided a concrete reason to own a 300 series.
This is the test and review we’ve all been waiting for 🙌🏾
ever seen i saw the tests several months ago, i've been looking forward to your take on this. your experience with 4wd's really shows compared to everyone else!
It would be good if the expert Aussie's could band together and manufacture a vehicle again. We've got all the materials, knowledge and high quality workmanship. Its easy said then done I know. Instead of selling our materials overseas thinking we making a quid and getting ripped off again. I don't know it would just be good to take pride in something we've done
I suspect that isn't going to happen because it's much more fun for the politicians to charge stupid levels of purchase and import taxes, than actually employ people locally to make a more suitable product - after all, why on earth would they want to make peoples lives better...
@@rosiehawtrey and J M
The same thing is happening with most of us AKA I'm in USA. Export our best to be made and copied then sold back for more. Plus being taxed on both ends of it.
I've wondered WTF happened to the Subaru's of past, I always liked the US marketed Brat of long past and the Outback from not so long ago.
I wish that we still had off-road areas like you still do. Don't let them take that away from you too. Like other things you've gave up already.
@@DB-yj3qc I think we had what you call the Brat, odd looking station wagon type thing, woman in my village had one for decades. I've a triumph vitesse & Wolseley 18/85 at the moment.
If you have any spare snipers you don't need... We have a Priti Patel shaped problem that needs dealing with, she's such a psychotic vicious little nutter she'd have Reinhardt Heydrich screaming for his mummy in about 45 seconds.
Yeah, we have a similar problem with Chinese knocking stuff off - but what can you do? Prices have to be cheap but people want local jobs - and none of them are bright enough to work it out.
We don't have democracy, we have a duh-mocracy... And the irony - the idiots are whining about everything that's going on are the same idiots who put the government there to do them over in the first place.
Its just pitiful. I'm constantly amazed how long we've survived and that we aren't already extinct.
If they can get that much power from less displacement, imagine what they could do remaking the v8.
a tuner at Toowoomba gets 700+ out of a VDJ, the owner of a super tuned 79 comes into work, he drag races his 79 😂, it sounds like a D12
its a twin turbo thats why
@@rajanicn9269 sequential turbos, not twin. yes there are 2 but the terminology matters to how they operate.
Seems to be designed as more of a city car than a off-road car, which lets face it, most owners won’t take this seriously off-roading to often.
I didnt watch the video either....
He literally tested it off-road and said it was good... Although it looks like a clumsy mall crawler with its IFS and plastic everything. The 4WD 24-7 are fanboys of Toyota and Nissans though (and Isuzu when they give them enough money 😆)
When I went through outback NSW and Queensland I saw 200 series land cruisers everywhere. Though it was mostly property owners with a family.
Seriously off roading does that mean your not allowed to smile or laugh?
Love your honest opinion mate . I value it 👍🏻
Can’t wait to see some modded 300 series, at the moment I can’t see them being modified but I thought the same with the 200 series.
300 owners may be the same as 200 owners. They’ll hesitate to take them off-road cause of how damn much the 300 set them back new or used and how much it would cost them if they damage the panels.
@@jacobloft3898 it would be much cheaper to repair then it would with say an 80 series or a 105 etc, mainly because they are older and are hard to get parts for, my dads 105 is swapped to an fte, so engine parts are pretty easy.
@@kadenmackriell4751 you have no idea mate 80 series parts are everywhere and cheap as ?
Worst case you can buy a blown up fz whole car for under 5g….
Parts forever …. No way an 80s panel cost more to replace haha
@@joshuabaldwin3341 recently, because of Covid tax it costs a lot more, and the only parts that are every where aren’t genuine and are cheap and weak. Just to repair the rear quarter on my dads 105 last year it cost him 4 grand, and the mechanic did mess up wich is why it cost extra.
And not buying a whole car for 5 grand, not in a shape where it’s worth repairing
@@kadenmackriell4751 must have a great mechanic 4grand for a rear quarter…..
Your right bud all the wreckers parts are aftermarket aye…..
That cute dog is the real judge of the LC 300 and the winner of this video 😁😁😆😆
great review they look nice in the flesh great to see a serious high milage review. as you say it will tell after 100 000 klm. Its proves that Toyota take the Australian market very serious im sure their engineers did some pretty savage testing. looking forward to when you guys get one :D
Just wait till you drive Grahams Y62.......
Nice car, but over-priced, and over-rated......
Yeah..... proud Y62 owner, and loving it ! ! !
I think they forgot about the fuel filter thingy......lol
Love the caravan wobble on the road 😂
i've a v6 turbo diesel, not had any issues with power off road or towing, surprisingly the fuel economy is quite good as well and quite a bit better than the old V8
It's the unique V8 experience that I'll miss that the V6 can't offer.
@philnash2347 what can't a v6 offer ? Sound ? Big deal
I'd be very keen to see where the aftermarket industry will fit a 2nd battery under the engine bay - it's a tight fit in there. I wonder if there is enough room between the radiator and the front grill to fit a battery there? Plus given how the Landcruiser is Toyota's premier "real" offroad vehicle, I'm still perplex that Toyota hasn't reposition the alternator much higher in the engine bay, to provide additional protection and ease of access.
I'd say they know the market is going down the line of slimline batteries that can go inside the cab anyway.
2nd battery in the engine bay is the worst possible spot
Turn the main battery sideways and you could possibly fit a 2nd battery
Very detailed video, my view re this 300 is its designed more like Prado in Landcruiser box, more urban usage than off-road. It will do just fine Toyota probably tested LC300 in Australia before releasing it. I do have few concerns:
- Number of features are better than LC200 out of factory; however most of them are to be replaced/added with after market (suspension, diff lock...). Thus here gone the advantages.
- The difficulties to upgrade considering how LC300 is built especially those 265 tyres (look like from Prado); upgrades wont be cheap on top of expensive price tag.
- After mods are in, all the flimsy parts are replaced, can that engine be at the same efficient level as its now?
- Its interesting to know how LC300 cope with bigger and heavier caravan; the Landcruiser is expected to tow 3500kg (and more with upgrade; again have to take in a lot more weight added due to mods).
Should do this test again with the GR sport
Totally agree
This is kind of review we need for cars, well done!
Impossible to make a judgement call this early. Need some time to pass to see if this will earn it's Toyota stripes. Also interesting that everyone forgets the bagging the LC200 copped when it came out, but look at it now.
Can't wait to see the electric HB fail on a steep hill from water in the electrics or damage to the wiring. Still, Shauno could always prop it up against a tree as normal. Lol.
Still cops it from everyone whos not a landcruiser fan boy.. Super overrated, average interior, average V8, shocking fuel economy, styling from the 90s in all senses of the word, still uses a fkn live rear axel in this day and age, Toyota ownership are licking laughing their arses off watching plebs continue to buy them for the over inflated prices. lets not forget how the lc200 Needs all the aftermarket modifications to make it a decent tourer as they come with fk all from factory, and not to mention how over priced they are for what you get as a 'luxury' 125k+ vehicle. Baffling to be honest
@@dartmoordave while I wouldn't trust a Hybrid in a touring set up. Electric motors in cars are actually more water tight than combustion engines. I would be worried about the fact they pumped 39Psi through a small cylinder capacity, V formation engine.
@@lewiev7560 oh no a rear live axle 🙄. Half the people buying them don’t even want the front to be ifs let alone the rear
@@lewiev7560 live rear axels are used where strenght is needed for say like Road Trains and other tractor trailers they are made for long use and abuse..
Just bought one now I have a 100 200 300 so proud
Id like to see you guys testing the new defender and see what its really capable
Best 300 test I have seen yet!
How much boost does it require to get that power and torque in comparison to the 200 ?
Finally, the review we need! Thanks Shauno
Toyota die hards will never admit this, but LC300’s spec is almost on par with a 2013 Land Rover Discovery 4. That traction control is impressive to Toyota owners, but the D4 had a better one, which allowed less slip, back in 2013. It’s also funny that a single-axle 2T caravan is “big” for Shauno. I overtake trucks in my D4 with 3.5T attached without any effort.
land rover comparison lol.
😂 Yes I laughed about the 2T BIG VAN too 😂. Shauno doesn’t realise there already gangs of grandads out there hitching up the 4tonne Junko caravans as we speak…….now they’ll be going even faster now with 10 gears to redline 🤣
Ps: Sorry for you are: Driving a D4 🤦♂️
How many of them Land Rovers still on the road ?
But the stats dont lie, Land Rover dukes out last place in reliability along with Fiat...not saying that you cant have a good one, but under engineered complexity will ultimately bite the owner in the long run...something even the 300 might have to contend with, time will tell.
sure spec on paper is on par with a Disco 4. But what matters and counts is the dependability which the Discovery 4 doesn't even come close.
Love my son's 200, split tailgate, 5.7 petrol. Running OME with 35's with very little rub at full articulation.
I was thinking it would be a fail after what happened with the Ranger going to a smaller engine.
My '09 grand vitara has the active traction control too. It might be a tad more responsive than the 300's and as you said, its no substitute for lockers.... BUT... It works so damn well.
I have so far taken it to montezuma falls, climbies track and grandville harbour dunes and it crawled it all with ease. Climies was done with a mate in his 80 series with 4" lift and 33's or 35's and I did all the obsticals that he did without issue. The TC is bloody good in the right car.
Up until it throws a wobbly, drops a sensor or gets moisture somewhere unhelpful. At which point it'll be dead as a doornail.
The traction control on this looked useless! The only reason it kept going was because it was down hill.
Spinning the wheel like an idiot when it was off the ground.
Mitsubishi had this working better 20 years ago.
If it's done right, the sensors are sealed off from water and dust. If they do happen to get any then the wheel bearing won't be far behind. Atleast that is how it's set up on mine. And then they reset and recalibrate themselves when you drive anyway. I still want lockers for mine but having TC has pushed it right down to the bottom of my priority list.
Hell, lockers are only good until they brake, compressor dies or a leak in an airline occurs. 🤷. They both have their faults
Gotta allow for some spin otherwise you'd have it tripping when you make tight turns. But yea, it was a little extreme here. But even if it was up hill, it would still go. Shauno should have commited a tad more and used the go pedal to help it. He looked to be using it expecting it to drive for him. It works the brakes, not the throttle.
That's impressive on stock road tyres, probably first mod too do it better side steps looks like you dented them up abit
As always a fantastic and really comprehensive review. It will be interesting to see how the 10 speed is going with some time on the clock. Well done.
To be fair, Toyota do still make the 79. This is just a different type of LC. Times are changing but respect to Toyota for still making the 79 and a hilux you can actually afford to buy
79 is not that cheap, after some basic mods will be well over $100k. But it's tough as nails
Surprising the factory tyre size went from a 285 in the 200 series down to a 265 in the 300 series. Even the 100 series had a 275.
Exactly. It looks pretty bad to be honest. The tires look very skinny. I have a 200 series and it looks way better, not to mention that new tailgate. Really like my split gate from 200 series
The land cruiser never disappoints, it's just phenomenal 😍😍
Great video,
Will never have one though. I don’t see my 80 and wife’s 100 needing replacing.
I can absolutely confirm this vehicle is built for Australian conditions. I would love to see a review on the GR-S. it was built to be fully modded for the typical GXL buyers who modify their cars, and the GR-S has a front, centre and rear diff lock as well as the e-KDSS.
Watching this because this will be the only time I'll ever see a 300 offroad for a few years
I agree with the plastic scrub plates underneath. A caravaner wants lighter weight, and a 4wder will replace them with aftermarket anyway.
Real test from a REAL youtube channel! Well done!
After watching this I’m sure graham is very happy with his y62 choice
And he saved 50K
They sound awesome with an exhaust to
@@shauno1970 my word they do
Y62 is fragile off-road
@@Corey-pd3mi been smashing mine successfully for 3 years
I like your videos before even 5 seconds passing from clicking the content, love it that much 👍❤️
These days with the dpf etc I wonder if the twin turbo petrol motor might be the go.
Hey Shauno, please stop using the word ‘dampening’ when talking about suspension, it’s damping. Great video. I’m still a fan of the 80 series. Always will be. Thank you for the great review!
oh thank Dog it isn't just me that gets annoyed with that...the only way a shock is "dampening" anything is if you're hosing it down.
Shaun had to get all his cars out of the shed for the Cruiser line up!
Great review Shauno. Maybe some steep sand climbing would have been a good addition - to get the best out of the 300.
You did well to get a vehicle to review!
So after you've tested the 300LC what do you reckon with your big 200.are you gonna still own the 200 or you're probably going for the 300 LC?
The fact this isn’t available in Canada is mind blowing to me, would sell like crazy. The aluminum build body means no rust, even in our harsh winter climates mixed with salts and sands.
We get it! They just call it a Lexus. Lexus LX. They are about the same price too, ~100k in each country.
“Or has it been built for European or US conditions’ 6:00 - well it’s not on sale in either of those markets!
G'day Shawn, all new models of 4x4 built today have had corners cut to keep the profits ticking over, unless you spend big on upgrades they all pull up wanting when it comes to the hard stuff, thanks for the truthful review, cheers mate, Neil 🤠.
Thanks Shaun and nice too see an honest review and admit to your initial concerns - not everyone is a ‘gotta have a big V8 grunt with loud exhaust and beer mate’ driver - thank goodness for aluminium which hopefully means no more Landcruiser ‘factory rust’ to deal with - I know a someone who had to sell her 2004 Troop-carrier for $6k because of the typical rust in the window corners and rain gutters - the new 300 series looks like a well packaged cruiser to me and nothing wrong with a V6 if well engineered and reliable - John in SA
Kings awnings stop rust
Needed a stock 200 series there for direct comparission.
Nobody builds an extreme off road vehicle anymore.
The Discovery 3 has the disel filter mounted on the chassis (under the pedals) But it's well tucked away.
You said pretty much the same as what everybody said about the 200 series at the start.
That's what makes me laugh 😂 this really isn't that different from a 200 but everyone is having a fit and calling it soft because it doesn't have a V8... People would have said the same crap when the 100 came out with IFS.
If you want a solid axle "tough" 4wd I guess there's the 70 series - just make sure you've got $40k to fix all its problems and make it a comfy drive 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@matthewbinks8923 Yup, just need to change the clutch, diff ratio, do a leaf spring flip or coil conversion, correct the rear track, change the seats.......
The new cruisers have been living off the reputation of the older ones for a while now....
I think it’d be a nice touch if the mounting holes for the plastic aerodynamic ‘skid plate’ were made durable enough to mount an after market steel skid plate to. Then it’d work as a school run car but can be easily modified for the off-road market
Toyota make a front bash plate as an original accessory, just best to install before or with the bullbar.
I like the 300 series and I think they will look tough with all the modifications on them
Can we get a review like this for most new 4x4's, atleast those with big changes :D
I think its over engineered, sometimes less is more... I don't know if I'd like to fix it on the side of a remote track
This is quite comprehensive, no nonsense and good to know if good for overlanding or just for tarmac.
Can you do a similar review also for the Prado and the Fortuner or super stretch to the Australian designed Ford Everest
Get your hands on the Ineos Grenadier asap 👌🔥
Yes, now offered with BMWs worst engines for more than it is worth with no passive safety features available.
@@madmick3794 I understood that the motors are alright. As for safety features, I don't really care a stuff, as long as it's a good off-roader😂.
Time will tell how good it is mate, but tbh, its worth giving a go 🤙
@@MothyEmms had a car with the petrol they are using, the plastic sensors, wiring and their poor fuel filtering are pathetic. Boss had the diesel, he replaced it with a Range Rover and some how it has been border line better
@@madmick3794 fair enough buddy. I'm gonna wait until it's been properly tested here in Oz before I make a decision. The concept of it is very appealing tho
@@MothyEmms I love the idea, only thing that might kill it is they are looking at banning vehicles with out passive safety fitted.
No new "Postie bikes", the Honda's, can be registered here any more because they are required to have dual channel ABS.
Best review of the 300 so far!