Amen cats said the same thing when i bought the HK 762. That's right 6000.00 pockets still lovely. My daddy use to say boy don't buy a Cadillac of you can't afford to fix it. Don't get an HK if you can't afford the bullets.
I’m a career clean cut military man, and think you’re one of the cooler and smarter persons I watch. If people don’t like your style or that you have more guns than they do, they should go to hell. I love guns and motorcycles, and you fuel the passion. Thank you.
The H&Ks cost more but they are heavier duty and won't fail like the clones do. They weight differently. I have one. The H&K is stouter. But it's really a collectors/shootable option.
Came here to watch a good video, I watch your snake vids with my son. I watch your gadget vids with my wife and I watch your gun vids with me myself and I. Keep being you homie-you are the reason we are subscribers.
Also btw, I called HK today. 4/17/2020 and they told me that SBRing it does not void the warranty. Engraving doesn't warranty it, neither does the stock. Only if you actually change internal stuff does it void it
You are only TH-cam reviewer that has compared H&K to the PTR and pointed out the shortcomings of the SP5. I take it that they did not provide you with one of their sample pistols expecting a positive review. You are to be well respected for your integrity and authenticity. It seems that H&K has not changed its stripes and continues to have contempt for the commercial market. It looks like this pistol was designed to placate the ATF and not those that will reward them with money for producing a superior product. This screams “They are too stupid. They will buy whatever we sell them!”
@@rifleshooterchannel208 Here is the facts as I see them. They didn't provide the correct manual, they didn't provide the correct sights and most importantly they neutered the fire control group. I am assuming that the MP5 that they are delivering to the Military/LEM community is not short on anything. Their actions are showing otherwise.
Quality Guru Building a commercial gun with commercial parts is hardly “not caring about the civilian market.” Do you complain about LMT or Noveske “not caring about the commercial market” because they have high shelf lowers and don’t have M16 fire control groups?
@@rifleshooterchannel208 You are missing the point all together. It's not about the full auto control group. It's about the lack of quality that has been put into the commercial product. If you are willing to accept that you are provided with a less than perfect welding job, a users manual for another pistol and a "leftover" sight then you are compromising on the quality of the product that you have purchased. It's your money; spend it how you like. As for me, I expect to get a quality build with all of the down-stream benefits including the ability to upgrade to a full auto pack when I can legally purchase it. PTR is hands down superior to the HK product. You get no compromise. If you believe that the SP5 is not a compromise then that is your prerogative. I had spoken to my LGS to order a SP5. They told that they were told not to ask; we will let you know when you can have another one. Sure sounds like a customer focused company - Not! BTW, LMT and Noveske are great firearms, but the Aero Precision rifles are just as good or better for half the cost. It looks like we can agree to disagree on HK, but we live in a free country in which we can freely express our views. I have greatly appreciated the debate. I would love to hear from others on what they think.
Quality Guru I don’t have anything against PTR, they’re great firearms. My point is H&K’s business is producing combat firearms that are all about out of the box accuracy and reliability. Ever see a USP that was cosmetically perfect? I never have 😂 Frames have flashing, muzzle ends of the dust covers are occasionally dinged up. Foregoing cosmetic perfection for the sake of mass producing a firearm that is unmatched in durability and reliability is what H&K does. Since PTR takes more time to polish the gun up and offer a cosmetically superior product for less money, absolutely go with PTR. Hell I would as well. My point is that your original comment kind of had the vibes of H&K bashing based off of that stupid (and baseless) “you suck and we hate you” meme that was spread around gun forums back in 2008 or so, I’m sure you’ve seen it.
@Frank Deckard I read where some of the HK shooteam owns/uses Dakotas in their personal lives and non-HK shooting team matches... of course it was on a TH-cam video so who knows but at least I didn't read it on Reddit.
I have a PTR-9c and an AP5-m. This video makes so much sense I can't help but watch it like rerunning a good movie. Keep your SOT, I hear it's hell gettin' one now. Semper Fi.
Brother I don’t know you personally but never apologize for being yourself or liking what you like I collect HK’s myself if you can afford what you want f*** what anyone else says! Great video keep doing your thing! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I think it's amazing that out of all the people on TH-cam you are the only one that seems to know these types of details or actually choose to mention them.
In all fairness, even ignoring the fact that some of them may be dishonest shills - though I think far from all of them has the most TH-cam channels that review guns are just basic normal day every guys. They don't have an sot, they don't convert machine guns and that kind of thing, and I know that their viewer base 99% of the time doesn't fit that profile either, so it's not really important to them.
Sean is Hack on a lot of bullshit as well. His shtick is to hate on higher end guns on the regular. Example he acts as though the bolt is just a "semi auto" carrier and not good because it's not a full auto carrier. The bolt is the newer F marked bolts that are made better and for crazy higher round count duration than the original. Then contradicts himself over and over. He has a lot of boot lickers, and equally if not more haters... like myself.
Had HK's in the past, have a PTR-9CT NOW. Like the PTR better due to sights, drop in ready, SBR ready, same performance, better case, U.S. made, no neutered parts, can't tell the difference w/ eyes closed...etc.
Would you ever consider doing a video on what is actually involved with becoming/being an SOT, and how someone might go about doing that if they were willing to jump through all the hoops. I know they're obviously plenty of guys where you can go and just read the rules on paper and what not, but hearing from someone firsthand what the process was like to get one, what the costs are involved, but the practical inconvenience is and that kind of thing I think would be valuable
Duuuude!!! Great video! I just bought a PTR btw!🤣🤣🤙 I love hk, but the value IS better on the ptr... came with an awesome hard shell submersible case too! Great things you pointed out! Semper fidelis
Sean, I could give a shit less about all other gun reviewers. I refuse to buy a gun until I check to see if YOU have done a review on it, first! We all appreciate your honesty and no bullshit take on the “flavor of the week”! Keep it up, brother!
i know that this is old, but in reality, you can just remobe the stock and then return the weapon back to its pistol status by taking it off the sbr list. It make it easier to sell. Even to someone who wants to re sbr it. They can just apply for the tax stamp, hold on to the pistol and stock, and when it get's approved, put the stock on it. Also, PTR barrels are not the same (as far as i know) They are not made to the same standards as the HK.
It's too bad that H&K seems to hate it's civilian customers. We could make them a lot of money if they lowered their prices and had better customer service.
Hey Sean, checkout the HKPro forums. TSC machine has figured out how to modify the bolt carrier to run f/a without any modifications to the receiver. They tested it out with HK94 bolt carriers but will be able to configure the original as well. There are a few videos of it already running on TH-cam.
As a person with a lot of showing tattoos I more than understand. Further more it’s your money so fuck every hater that negativity comments on your vids. You have taken the time out of your day to inform us about this firearm so thank you we should all appreciate it. I don’t know if you do this but I would love to hear you thoughts on the up coming Washington state gun laws and threats as well as the situation in Virginia. Thank you for another great vid and keep them coming!!!
@@ZERO_42069 damn - well if I break mine I'm not gonna tell them I shot it suppressed. I'd have ran that one up the flag pole hard until they fixed it - tri lug - threaded - cmon! K variants are supposed to swap out the locking piece to #28 80 degree if SBR - Suppressed - or shooting 147 grain or greater.
Man I was so happy to hear your intro. It pisses me off when idiots say irrelevant things about the video "what does that tat mean" "what food do you feed your dogs" "ill wait til PSA comes out with one" or "I cant afford HK" blah blah blah. I used to watch MAC videos and salivate over his firearms wishing i could. but i worked my ass off and now own many of them.
Your the man S. When I tell my friends about people who know about guns and has seen, fired, and owns them I have no other name or channel to send them to. When you went in for a while it was wierd. Thank you man. Not just for the unboxing but for your personal stuff that you've gone over that I feel is important to your channel.
I'm buying both, safe prom queen and biker chick. A decent factory job and two weeks overtime is the cost of an HK, (oh and bologna sandwiches) Great video BTW, liked and subscribed!!
I’m all in at $2300 for a SBR’d PTR 9ct w/ 6 genuine HK mags and a B&T side folding stock. Very happy I went with PTR and saved a couple hundred bucks to be well spent on ammo instead of fretting over the SP5.
I also have the ptr 9ct. Like so many others it had problems. Loose magazine wobble, fte, double feeds, sent it back. Its better, but after that I hesitate thinking of this gun as a tool I'll stake my life upon. I think I'd have that sense of reliability in the HK, seeing as thats what they are known for. I very well may have both soon!
Glad you did this video. I'm by all means satisfied with my PTR especially after finding out through research that they're built on the same jigs as H&k, plus they've modernized the MP5. Why pay more for less. I totally understand the H&k authenticity and it being an icon, but at the end of the day, I want to grab any one of my hardware and bust multiple "caps" and not worry about keeping a "safe queen" clean.
Sean.. You make good video's about awesome guns!! Let the trolls piss off and keep making GREAT content. I'm about to start my career as a helicopter mechanic and my gun collection will start to get bigger again. If you ever want to go to the Big Sandy Machine Gun Shoot in Arizona, I plan on being there next year. It'd be awesome to see ya there. 👍👍
I just receaved mine. Have not shot it yet. Mine did not come with a manual or gun lock. My first gun was a P7m8 back in january 1986. Still have the P7. I am here for your openion on firearms. Do not have any problems with lots of tattoos.
I have Both the SP5 and SP5K as well. I am wondering about the PTR9 next so I have a shooter. The SP5K came with the 400$ HK scope mount. The SP5 comes with no mount. Will be interested to hear how ETS mags work.
Was just another comparison video to me until you started to sing and beat the PRT.. now I'm a subscriber! Oh, you don't need the gloves when you are doing a video for anyone that knows what you're talking about. I have a rr German MP5 made from a 94 and two Ralph/RDTS German parts kits MP5s. I'm a SOT also, going to serialize two pack housings for the two from RDTS. I agree totally with your comments and don't think I'm going to buy a SP5 unless a customer really wants one.
Oliver Allen u watched this video and believe they do?? 🤣🤣 this video alone says they don’t... how easy is it to make a mr556 an sbr without sourcing someone who can cut the barrel?? If only hk made 10.4 barrels for us all😑
Fuhk Shet that’s why you buy a “pistol” version and add your own stock. If HK actually had a plant here that made cool stuff like the MP5 or whatever we would have much better features. Lest we forget about 922R and that garbage.
Always value your opinion on gear. You have good taste and a unique perspective. I made the Fenix PD35 part of my EDC because of you and I am in love with that thing! One of the few TH-camrs who’s opinion I trust.
Dude take off the damn gloves !!! Really man be you man it’s why we like you. BTW thank you for making videos for us again. You buy and have bad ass guns and we love them ... cause I would literally have no money if I spent like you 😂😂
I could have got the H&K but chose the PTR and got extra mags. My LGS had both so I was lucky to look side by side. I didn't even know half of what you just explained. The PTR just seemed to be better made for Alot less money. If I want to shoot H&K I still own my very first gun an H&K model 94 with retractable stock. I bought it right before the Import ban. Anyway Great comparison video Sean. Look forward to the next video.
Oh how I love your honesty. You just save me some cash. I was considering getting one of these as I love the MP5 but I think I’d rather buy some more suppressors or a few more B&T guns. Perhaps I’m becoming a B&T snob 🤷🏻♂️
I think you are the same guy who reviewed the FN 249S. You are very smart, something different and very entertaining .If it was not for HK you would not have the PTR. Yes name counts when it comes to being collectable.
The HK is more precision made than any clone period. What I mean by that is the Flats are perfectly bent so factory Hk stocks fit perfectly without using a rubber mallet to install or remove plus if you change the bolt carrier , locking piece or bolt head for a factory Hk part your head space will barely change unlike using RCM or non German parts which have always dramtically changed my head space to where I had to use + or - rollers. I have had the PTR , MKE , Vector Arms and many HK,s and all of the clones had issues with hard to remove push pins and stocks that were hard to install and remove. I will say they all ran 100% with and without a sear pack except for the Vector arms clone which the trigger housing shelf was welded too low to trip the sear lever plus the flat was never bent right so the bolt was actually binding up in the rear of the reciever since I had to use a rubber mallet to install the A3 stock. I would rate the Hk #1 / MKE #2 / PTR#3 and all of the rest like Special weapons , POF or Coharie just a waste of time and money but that is my opinion after 30 plus years of HK,s and clones.
i owned a ptr 9ct and the mags would randomly drop out so i sent it back. when i got it back it started giving me a stove pipe every magazine, at one point a case went into the trigger pack and binded it up. I really didn't wanna mess with it so i ended up selling it, really felt bad because it was so cool but it didn't work reliably. Looking to buy either a sp5 that i know will be reliable or a zenith, though my friend that has zeniths converted had the same issue with ejection.
I'd be interested to hear how you were able to avoid filing the form 2 on the apc223 receiver. Do you not stll have to notch the receiver for the FA lower to seat? My understanding is that in order to qualify as a MG conversion device, it must be "drop-in" requiring no modification to the actual receiver - like an AR DIAS. Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding something, as I would love to be able to just form a FA bolt and retain the value of the rest of the gun.
Took your advice and said meh whatever and went with the PTR. 1200+ rounds of 9MM NATO later and zero malfunctions with the gun itself... although I should note the (presumably) KCI made magazines the PTR shipped with were junk. Feed lips totally out of spec to the point where the bolt cycling would make the mags drop free. I though the mag catch or something was out of spec until I tried real HK made magazines without issue. Now time to spend a small fortune on good mags, but imo worth it.
Speaking of unicorn guns: if and when PSA releases their mp5 variant, will you be acquiring and reviewing one? I'd love to see how it stacks up to an HK (and a PTR).
I think your tats are badass art! I appreciate you trying to further the gun community. Have you noticed any accuracy differences between the these two firearms? How’s the reliability of the PTR. Thanks
Thank you for saying what needed to be said. Without question, I would go with the PTR 9CT and then spend all the money I would save on a brace, hundreds of dollars worth of magazines and ammunition (you know, so you can actually go have fun with the weapon on the range), or I would send in a form 1 to get a stamp for a badass silencer to twist on that sexy bitch. If showing off to people is so important, then I would caution those with that mentality to keep in mind that basically all of the cool points are lost as soon as you say "SP5" instead of "MP5".
I was curious and searched fpr the PTR and I'm seeing different version for 9mm like PTR9C and PTRKT. Which PTR is the one you're showing in the video? And what's the difference between the two version of the PTR?
I’d take the PTR, and would treat it as you showcased here. They’re tools. Once you start getting that high in price, things change. Cool gun though for the nostalgia factor.
How is it a felony to drill into a receiver and remove material? The trigger group is the weapon not the receiver. So will the pt5 receiver take a HK select fire trigger pack?
Seriously man, loose the gloves! I'm one of those people who unfairly judged you in the beginning, but quickly realized what a good guy you really are. You have become one of my favorite go to channels. BTW you have one of the coolest names ever!
Brother, don’t worry about ur tattoos.. if they don’t like them they can keep it moving. It’s about ur content, not what you look like. Wear them proudly!!
At 3k I wouldn't grab the SP5 over PTR or zenith. However I do get it half the price and no plans of dropping huge money for trigger pack so this is a no-brainer. And also idk if anyone mention but military arms channel confirmed from HK that sbr won't void warranty.
I laid away a ptr 9kt i can't wait to bring it home i got it for $1400 so I'm not mad at that but man i need a job with you you got all the badass guns i want i got a nice collection but no way close to yours
Great video man, I have my sot and completely agree. I would never use that sp5 for a post sample host gun. I heavily looked at the ptr before I decided just to build my own mp5 off a parts kit.
I get the impression that H&K gets a lot of pressure to appease the civilian market and ends up putting out impractical releases such as this. Part of the allure of H&K is that most of their weapons were not designed for the civilian market. At the end of the day I would rather watch Ian shoot the mp5k full auto briefcase on here than shell out a few gs for the functionality of an AR9 pistol.
Love both of these and i don't know if you know of or about it but I think you should check out the Springfield Saint Edge AR pistol, thought it may be something you'd like! Could post and share a video/review. (A few models btw the others are the cheaper ones) Maybe you've already ran one and hate it. Who knows.
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$2,800 ain’t big money duke. Cop a KAC with a Mark 8 and join the big boys at the grown up table lol.
jdl 96 heckler and Koch has cock in the name
“Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Jeff Cooper
@@hvkrev2 lol, good one.
@@ianyoung4551 Koch is actually pronounced coke lol u obviously arent a fan of H&K nor own any HK products
Amen cats said the same thing when i bought the HK 762. That's right 6000.00 pockets still lovely. My daddy use to say boy don't buy a Cadillac of you can't afford to fix it. Don't get an HK if you can't afford the bullets.
I’m a career clean cut military man, and think you’re one of the cooler and smarter persons I watch. If people don’t like your style or that you have more guns than they do, they should go to hell.
I love guns and motorcycles, and you fuel the passion. Thank you.
AF-O6 you should ask him to go to the movies with you and take him out to dinner
RIP 1776 F is for Friends who do stuff together U is for You and Me
@@bigcitydiddystraighttalkmi7834 lol
The MSRP is now $3,279 and I paid it but damn almost 4K with tax and the brace
The H&Ks cost more but they are heavier duty and won't fail like the clones do. They weight differently. I have one. The H&K is stouter. But it's really a collectors/shootable option.
I’m with you pal , get HK
Excluding the chrome line barrel. But that's if you want a true MP5, so select fire.
Excellent video. I ended up getting a PTR-9CT because of this video and I am very happy with it. Great review
Came here to watch a good video, I watch your snake vids with my son. I watch your gadget vids with my wife and I watch your gun vids with me myself and I. Keep being you homie-you are the reason we are subscribers.
CLPmakesMEhappy don’t be greedy share with the family
Also btw, I called HK today.
4/17/2020 and they told me that SBRing it does not void the warranty. Engraving doesn't warranty it, neither does the stock.
Only if you actually change internal stuff does it void it
You are only TH-cam reviewer that has compared H&K to the PTR and pointed out the shortcomings of the SP5. I take it that they did not provide you with one of their sample pistols expecting a positive review. You are to be well respected for your integrity and authenticity. It seems that H&K has not changed its stripes and continues to have contempt for the commercial market. It looks like this pistol was designed to placate the ATF and not those that will reward them with money for producing a superior product. This screams “They are too stupid. They will buy whatever we sell them!”
H&K has never had “contempt for the commercial market”.
Stop taking 15 year old Myspace memes as fact.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 Here is the facts as I see them. They didn't provide the correct manual, they didn't provide the correct sights and most importantly they neutered the fire control group. I am assuming that the MP5 that they are delivering to the Military/LEM community is not short on anything. Their actions are showing otherwise.
Quality Guru Building a commercial gun with commercial parts is hardly “not caring about the civilian market.”
Do you complain about LMT or Noveske “not caring about the commercial market” because they have high shelf lowers and don’t have M16 fire control groups?
@@rifleshooterchannel208 You are missing the point all together. It's not about the full auto control group. It's about the lack of quality that has been put into the commercial product. If you are willing to accept that you are provided with a less than perfect welding job, a users manual for another pistol and a "leftover" sight then you are compromising on the quality of the product that you have purchased. It's your money; spend it how you like. As for me, I expect to get a quality build with all of the down-stream benefits including the ability to upgrade to a full auto pack when I can legally purchase it. PTR is hands down superior to the HK product. You get no compromise. If you believe that the SP5 is not a compromise then that is your prerogative. I had spoken to my LGS to order a SP5. They told that they were told not to ask; we will let you know when you can have another one. Sure sounds like a customer focused company - Not! BTW, LMT and Noveske are great firearms, but the Aero Precision rifles are just as good or better for half the cost. It looks like we can agree to disagree on HK, but we live in a free country in which we can freely express our views. I have greatly appreciated the debate. I would love to hear from others on what they think.
Quality Guru I don’t have anything against PTR, they’re great firearms.
My point is H&K’s business is producing combat firearms that are all about out of the box accuracy and reliability.
Ever see a USP that was cosmetically perfect?
I never have 😂
Frames have flashing, muzzle ends of the dust covers are occasionally dinged up.
Foregoing cosmetic perfection for the sake of mass producing a firearm that is unmatched in durability and reliability is what H&K does.
Since PTR takes more time to polish the gun up and offer a cosmetically superior product for less money, absolutely go with PTR.
Hell I would as well.
My point is that your original comment kind of had the vibes of H&K bashing based off of that stupid (and baseless) “you suck and we hate you” meme that was spread around gun forums back in 2008 or so, I’m sure you’ve seen it.
Thanks man made me feel better about my PTR all these elitist make me feel like my PTR isn't as good but I love my PTR
I wish I could afford all the guns you get I’m happy you’re back making content
Yup, buy the PTR, use the money you save to buy ammo and go to the range and train train train.
Making me feel better about my PTR 9CT lol. Even before your vid, I couldn't justify spending almost $3k on a "real" SP5. 👍
@Frank Deckard I read where some of the HK shooteam owns/uses Dakotas in their personal lives and non-HK shooting team matches... of course it was on a TH-cam video so who knows but at least I didn't read it on Reddit.
I have a PTR-9c and an AP5-m. This video makes so much sense I can't help but watch it like rerunning a good movie. Keep your SOT, I hear it's hell gettin' one now. Semper Fi.
Brother I don’t know you personally but never apologize for being yourself or liking what you like I collect HK’s myself if you can afford what you want f*** what anyone else says! Great video keep doing your thing! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
sucks you have to explain yourself to such an extent... love the channel bro
It was worth the money for me to get an HK SP5 and SP5K. I did stamp them both as SBR's.
Me too, go HK
I think it's amazing that out of all the people on TH-cam you are the only one that seems to know these types of details or actually choose to mention them.
Ryan Painter Most of the gun channels on TH-cam are just paid 3rd party advertisers getting paid for their reviews.
In all fairness, even ignoring the fact that some of them may be dishonest shills - though I think far from all of them has the most TH-cam channels that review guns are just basic normal day every guys. They don't have an sot, they don't convert machine guns and that kind of thing, and I know that their viewer base 99% of the time doesn't fit that profile either, so it's not really important to them.
Sean is Hack on a lot of bullshit as well. His shtick is to hate on higher end guns on the regular. Example he acts as though the bolt is just a "semi auto" carrier and not good because it's not a full auto carrier. The bolt is the newer F marked bolts that are made better and for crazy higher round count duration than the original. Then contradicts himself over and over. He has a lot of boot lickers, and equally if not more haters... like myself.
drewpert 15 So move on and don’t watch his videos, it’s that simple...
Had HK's in the past, have a PTR-9CT NOW. Like the PTR better due to sights, drop in ready, SBR ready, same performance, better case, U.S. made, no neutered parts, can't tell the difference w/ eyes closed...etc.
You may have just saved me almost $3k. I have a PTR9CT, it’s kickass, and this makes me want a second.
People buy the SP5 to have a H&K MP5. It’s mainly just the name
That’s the reason why I was considering it. But I just couldn’t justify it at that price.
I'm in the thank god I bought a ptr club. Got mine a few months ago and have had zero issues.and is fun as hell to shoot. Keep the videos coming.
Would you ever consider doing a video on what is actually involved with becoming/being an SOT, and how someone might go about doing that if they were willing to jump through all the hoops.
I know they're obviously plenty of guys where you can go and just read the rules on paper and what not, but hearing from someone firsthand what the process was like to get one, what the costs are involved, but the practical inconvenience is and that kind of thing I think would be valuable
Hell yeah!!!! I totally agree with you on a PTR Cause my PTR 9kt shoots like a beast. Good video bro
Duuuude!!! Great video! I just bought a PTR btw!🤣🤣🤙 I love hk, but the value IS better on the ptr... came with an awesome hard shell submersible case too! Great things you pointed out! Semper fidelis
Sean, I could give a shit less about all other gun reviewers. I refuse to buy a gun until I check to see if YOU have done a review on it, first!
We all appreciate your honesty and no bullshit take on the “flavor of the week”! Keep it up, brother!
What’s most important: your own self importance.
i know that this is old, but in reality, you can just remobe the stock and then return the weapon back to its pistol status by taking it off the sbr list. It make it easier to sell. Even to someone who wants to re sbr it. They can just apply for the tax stamp, hold on to the pistol and stock, and when it get's approved, put the stock on it.
Also, PTR barrels are not the same (as far as i know) They are not made to the same standards as the HK.
It's too bad that H&K seems to hate it's civilian customers. We could make them a lot of money if they lowered their prices and had better customer service.
Hey Sean, checkout the HKPro forums. TSC machine has figured out how to modify the bolt carrier to run f/a without any modifications to the receiver. They tested it out with HK94 bolt carriers but will be able to configure the original as well. There are a few videos of it already running on TH-cam.
As a person with a lot of showing tattoos I more than understand. Further more it’s your money so fuck every hater that negativity comments on your vids. You have taken the time out of your day to inform us about this firearm so thank you we should all appreciate it. I don’t know if you do this but I would love to hear you thoughts on the up coming Washington state gun laws and threats as well as the situation in Virginia. Thank you for another great vid and keep them coming!!!
Love my ptr. The only malfunction I have ever had was caused by a trash ets magazine. Threw those away and it’s nothing but the best
I have a PTR and I “broke” it after 5000 rounds, ran it suppressed and the welds broke off the trunnion. Going to get the SP5 fuck it
i had issues too with mine. ended up selling it but being sad when i did because it was such a cool gun but in the end it wasnt reliable
You won't be disappointed man!! That bolt will last longer than any of us! Get the Ryder 9 suppressor as well.
Why didn't you just warranty it with PTR? SP5 is a neutered dog -
@@wetzignal9093 i eneded up getting a sp5 but ptr said because i ran it suppressed it wasnt covered by warranty
@@ZERO_42069 damn - well if I break mine I'm not gonna tell them I shot it suppressed. I'd have ran that one up the flag pole hard until they fixed it - tri lug - threaded - cmon! K variants are supposed to swap out the locking piece to #28 80 degree if SBR - Suppressed - or shooting 147 grain or greater.
Man I was so happy to hear your intro. It pisses me off when idiots say irrelevant things about the video "what does that tat mean" "what food do you feed your dogs"
"ill wait til PSA comes out with one" or "I cant afford HK" blah blah blah. I used to watch MAC videos and salivate over his firearms wishing i could. but i worked my ass off and now own many of them.
Your the man S. When I tell my friends about people who know about guns and has seen, fired, and owns them I have no other name or channel to send them to.
When you went in for a while it was wierd. Thank you man. Not just for the unboxing but for your personal stuff that you've gone over that I feel is important to your channel.
I'm buying both, safe prom
queen and biker chick. A decent factory job and two weeks overtime is the cost of an HK, (oh and bologna sandwiches) Great video BTW, liked and subscribed!!
My SP5 came with a larger but different HK branded bag.
I’m all in at $2300 for a SBR’d PTR 9ct w/ 6 genuine HK mags and a B&T side folding stock. Very happy I went with PTR and saved a couple hundred bucks to be well spent on ammo instead of fretting over the SP5.
I also have the ptr 9ct. Like so many others it had problems. Loose magazine wobble, fte, double feeds, sent it back. Its better, but after that I hesitate thinking of this gun as a tool I'll stake my life upon. I think I'd have that sense of reliability in the HK, seeing as thats what they are known for. I very well may have both soon!
Glad you did this video. I'm by all means satisfied with my PTR especially after finding out through research that they're built on the same jigs as H&k, plus they've modernized the MP5. Why pay more for less. I totally understand the H&k authenticity and it being an icon, but at the end of the day, I want to grab any one of my hardware and bust multiple "caps" and not worry about keeping a "safe queen" clean.
Sean.. You make good video's about awesome guns!! Let the trolls piss off and keep making GREAT content. I'm about to start my career as a helicopter mechanic and my gun collection will start to get bigger again. If you ever want to go to the Big Sandy Machine Gun Shoot in Arizona, I plan on being there next year. It'd be awesome to see ya there. 👍👍
As always, thank you. I’m an HK fanboy and you changed my mind.
You need to check out TSC’s video running the SP5 full auto with NO modifications to the receiver.
I wish I would have see this vedio 2 years ago. Great video
This is EXACTLY the video I needed! I have been facing this dilemma 👌
I just receaved mine. Have not shot it yet. Mine did not come with a manual or gun lock. My first gun was a P7m8 back in january 1986. Still have the P7. I am here for your openion on firearms. Do not have any problems with lots of tattoos.
This info saved me a purchase. I will either ptr or buy a parts kit and build my own. Gun is way over priced for my use. Thanks!
I have Both the SP5 and SP5K as well. I am wondering about the PTR9 next so I have a shooter. The SP5K came with the 400$ HK scope mount. The SP5 comes with no mount. Will be interested to hear how ETS mags work.
Cant even own a gun, i searched for honest, no bullshit talk and you came up 👍🏻
Was just another comparison video to me until you started to sing and beat the PRT.. now I'm a subscriber! Oh, you don't need the gloves when you are doing a video for anyone that knows what you're talking about. I have a rr German MP5 made from a 94 and two Ralph/RDTS German parts kits MP5s. I'm a SOT also, going to serialize two pack housings for the two from RDTS. I agree totally with your comments and don't think I'm going to buy a SP5 unless a customer really wants one.
Thank you for making such intelligent informative videos!! Always appreciate them.
Hk doesn’t care about the civilian market...😅
Fuhk Shet they do. They have very strict import and export laws to deal with though.
A Google User hardly.
Oliver Allen u watched this video and believe they do?? 🤣🤣 this video alone says they don’t... how easy is it to make a mr556 an sbr without sourcing someone who can cut the barrel?? If only hk made 10.4 barrels for us all😑
Fuhk Shet that’s why you buy a “pistol” version and add your own stock. If HK actually had a plant here that made cool stuff like the MP5 or whatever we would have much better features. Lest we forget about 922R and that garbage.
A Google User lmao yea do that and void ur warranty
Nice. I've been on the fence and this really helped. Does the PTR feed steel cased ammo?
I’ve been waiting for this video🇺🇸
Always value your opinion on gear. You have good taste and a unique perspective. I made the Fenix PD35 part of my EDC because of you and I am in love with that thing! One of the few TH-camrs who’s opinion I trust.
Dude take off the damn gloves !!! Really man be you man it’s why we like you. BTW thank you for making videos for us again. You buy and have bad ass guns and we love them ... cause I would literally have no money if I spent like you 😂😂
I like your videos man, you are a real character it makes your videos entertaining!
I am curious how Zenith clones compare to this firearm?
Vladislavs Dovgalecs compared to the full auto HK from the FFL I could see no difference from my Zenith
Agree with you 100%. Thankyou for the info. Gun collectors will have a fit.
As a POF owner...
Smack that PTR!!!!!
Reverse stretch master race!!!!
Just kidding, great vid man 🤘
If you are worried about voiding the warranty by putting a stock on it, that's pretty weak bro...
Damn interesting video. I didnt know HK had to neuter the sp5 so much.
I could have got the H&K but chose the PTR and got extra mags. My LGS had both so I was lucky to look side by side. I didn't even know half of what you just explained. The PTR just seemed to be better made for Alot less money. If I want to shoot H&K I still own my very first gun an H&K model 94 with retractable stock. I bought it right before the Import ban. Anyway Great comparison video Sean. Look forward to the next video.
Oh how I love your honesty. You just save me some cash. I was considering getting one of these as I love the MP5 but I think I’d rather buy some more suppressors or a few more B&T guns. Perhaps I’m becoming a B&T snob 🤷🏻♂️
I'm glad to see you back on TH-cam! \m/ You make great content as always!
Well, I guess I wouldn't consider a HK anymore lol. What do you think about PTR vs Zenith ? Same parts as PTR ?
Me too
Thanks for the review, really enjoyed getting this look at this awesome release.
Haven't watched in a while but wanted to say what's up an merry Christmas I need a need firearm every time I watch your channel
I think you are the same guy who reviewed the FN 249S. You are very smart, something different and very entertaining .If it was not for HK you would not have the PTR. Yes name counts when it comes to being collectable.
Great advice Sean. I'm glad I got a Ptr now. U saved me 3 grand. Cheers..🤟
The HK is more precision made than any clone period. What I mean by that is the Flats are perfectly bent so factory Hk stocks fit perfectly without using a rubber mallet to install or remove plus if you change the bolt carrier , locking piece or bolt head for a factory Hk part your head space will barely change unlike using RCM or non German parts which have always dramtically changed my head space to where I had to use + or - rollers. I have had the PTR , MKE , Vector Arms and many HK,s and all of the clones had issues with hard to remove push pins and stocks that were hard to install and remove. I will say they all ran 100% with and without a sear pack except for the Vector arms clone which the trigger housing shelf was welded too low to trip the sear lever plus the flat was never bent right so the bolt was actually binding up in the rear of the reciever since I had to use a rubber mallet to install the A3 stock. I would rate the Hk #1 / MKE #2 / PTR#3 and all of the rest like Special weapons , POF or Coharie just a waste of time and money but that is my opinion after 30 plus years of HK,s and clones.
i owned a ptr 9ct and the mags would randomly drop out so i sent it back. when i got it back it started giving me a stove pipe every magazine, at one point a case went into the trigger pack and binded it up. I really didn't wanna mess with it so i ended up selling it, really felt bad because it was so cool but it didn't work reliably. Looking to buy either a sp5 that i know will be reliable or a zenith, though my friend that has zeniths converted had the same issue with ejection.
I dont care of tattoos but I started to like your channel
Moral of the story don't waste your money on a SP5 just buy a Prt.. Thanks Sean loll
I'd be interested to hear how you were able to avoid filing the form 2 on the apc223 receiver. Do you not stll have to notch the receiver for the FA lower to seat? My understanding is that in order to qualify as a MG conversion device, it must be "drop-in" requiring no modification to the actual receiver - like an AR DIAS. Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding something, as I would love to be able to just form a FA bolt and retain the value of the rest of the gun.
The first gun you showed looked like a piece of shit what was it??
Took your advice and said meh whatever and went with the PTR. 1200+ rounds of 9MM NATO later and zero malfunctions with the gun itself... although I should note the (presumably) KCI made magazines the PTR shipped with were junk. Feed lips totally out of spec to the point where the bolt cycling would make the mags drop free. I though the mag catch or something was out of spec until I tried real HK made magazines without issue. Now time to spend a small fortune on good mags, but imo worth it.
Speaking of unicorn guns: if and when PSA releases their mp5 variant, will you be acquiring and reviewing one? I'd love to see how it stacks up to an HK (and a PTR).
Hey man thanks for bringing truth and honesty to us, noticed and much appreciated good sir
I think your tats are badass art! I appreciate you trying to further the gun community. Have you noticed any accuracy differences between the these two firearms? How’s the reliability of the PTR. Thanks
Well at least you upgraded your Gloves lol
Thank you for saying what needed to be said. Without question, I would go with the PTR 9CT and then spend all the money I would save on a brace, hundreds of dollars worth of magazines and ammunition (you know, so you can actually go have fun with the weapon on the range), or I would send in a form 1 to get a stamp for a badass silencer to twist on that sexy bitch. If showing off to people is so important, then I would caution those with that mentality to keep in mind that basically all of the cool points are lost as soon as you say "SP5" instead of "MP5".
I was curious and searched fpr the PTR and I'm seeing different version for 9mm like PTR9C and PTRKT. Which PTR is the one you're showing in the video? And what's the difference between the two version of the PTR?
What is a SOT?
I’d take the PTR, and would treat it as you showcased here. They’re tools. Once you start getting that high in price, things change. Cool gun though for the nostalgia factor.
Why not all?
I own an HK, MKE, and POF.
I’ve been waiting for this one brother
What is SOD?
Love the intro of the vid! Never thought the ink might be “off putting” for some. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this HK.
How is it a felony to drill into a receiver and remove material? The trigger group is the weapon not the receiver.
So will the pt5 receiver take a HK select fire trigger pack?
Keep killin it seany!!!! Merry xmas n happy new yr if we dont see another video by then.
I agree. I’d rather have a gun I can beat the shit out of, and the reproduction MP5’s are more versatile.
Great review, I went with the PTR and damn glad I chose it over the SP5! In my opinion, the SP5 is not worth HK's asking price.
Seriously man, loose the gloves! I'm one of those people who unfairly judged you in the beginning, but quickly realized what a good guy you really are. You have become one of my favorite go to channels. BTW you have one of the coolest names ever!
Love your reviews and channel
Brother, don’t worry about ur tattoos.. if they don’t like them they can keep it moving. It’s about ur content, not what you look like. Wear them proudly!!
At 3k I wouldn't grab the SP5 over PTR or zenith. However I do get it half the price and no plans of dropping huge money for trigger pack so this is a no-brainer. And also idk if anyone mention but military arms channel confirmed from HK that sbr won't void warranty.
I laid away a ptr 9kt i can't wait to bring it home i got it for $1400 so I'm not mad at that but man i need a job with you you got all the badass guns i want i got a nice collection but no way close to yours
Keep it up! You've been on a roll making vids!
Great video man, I have my sot and completely agree. I would never use that sp5 for a post sample host gun. I heavily looked at the ptr before I decided just to build my own mp5 off a parts kit.
I get the impression that H&K gets a lot of pressure to appease the civilian market and ends up putting out impractical releases such as this. Part of the allure of H&K is that most of their weapons were not designed for the civilian market. At the end of the day I would rather watch Ian shoot the mp5k full auto briefcase on here than shell out a few gs for the functionality of an AR9 pistol.
Love both of these and i don't know if you know of or about it but I think you should check out the Springfield Saint Edge AR pistol, thought it may be something you'd like! Could post and share a video/review. (A few models btw the others are the cheaper ones) Maybe you've already ran one and hate it. Who knows.