16” MacBook Pro Review - Real Talk

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  • Dave2D review of the 16" MacBook Pro from Apple. This is the best laptop they have made in years. i9 vs. i7? 5500M vs 5300M?
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  • @Dave2D
    @Dave2D  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1292

    whatcha think, is this good enough for the money?

    • @we4kass
      @we4kass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      Dave Lee No, maybe when I have that kind of money

    • @admzrndy
      @admzrndy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      yep

    • @avinash-pawar
      @avinash-pawar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Simple Answer NOPE.

    • @alexcui3410
      @alexcui3410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Dave Lee still very expensive thou

    • @andrewchick2413
      @andrewchick2413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Totally not related to this video at all, but i want to get a oneplus 7tpro, but the oneplus8 is coming out early next year apparently, should i wait for it or buy the oneplus 7t pro?

  • @stevenb8578
    @stevenb8578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    "Don't worry about this thing being renewed into some new model next year. You're good." Well that kind of aged poorly lol

    • @anthony-eb4tz
      @anthony-eb4tz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Facts

    • @DDavEE
      @DDavEE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Technically it is just shy of two years since first release and the only update it saw last year was the 5600M GPU option.
      I have no regrets buying mine since it’s been over a year and a half for me personally. I typically upgrade every 2-3 years. My plan originally was to keep this for 3 years but the new 16” MBP M1 Max with its miniLED screen and ports really has me tempted to upgrade sooner rather than later.
      The one good thing about Apple products is that they retain a high resale value. So the cost of entry may be high but the cost to upgrade is usually reasonable.

    • @stevenb8578
      @stevenb8578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DDavEE I’ve had mine for about the same amount of time. The upgrades with the new generation are so tempting. I would get the 14in this time tho cuz my 16in is a little too big for me. And with the Apple trade in I get about 1500 bucks, might pull the trigger 🤷‍♂️.

    • @Garrettdx1988
      @Garrettdx1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was just about to comment on that. Apple saw this video and said, bet.

    • @edwardmupenda3080
      @edwardmupenda3080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well it took another 2 years for a redesign

  • @pikabuu6315
    @pikabuu6315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3122

    The Esc key finally escaped the Touch Bar

    • @ruwiki
      @ruwiki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      what's the thrill to that. I was, I am, happy to have it with the Touch Bar

    • @georgeelsham
      @georgeelsham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Ngl I've practically never used the escape key on my Mac. Unless you are playing a game, why do people like the escape key so much?

    • @Fabio-rg9nv
      @Fabio-rg9nv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      George_E As a developer I constantly use the escape key, and there are many other areas where it’s used as well. And as soon as you get used to navigating the system through he keyboard where it makes sense, instead of always using the mouse, you will use the esc key quite often. While the software key on the Touch Bar is useable and fine for most people, it‘s just not as good as having a physical key to smash, when you use it often.

    • @HazzyTho
      @HazzyTho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      So the issue is that it's not a physical button so if you like dual boot you literally just can't use the esc key and it really removes a lot of functionality

    • @georgeelsham
      @georgeelsham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fabio Mota
      Ah right. I’m a developer as well, using Xcode on my MBP.
      I know you can press Esc for showing/hiding type completions, but I don’t really do that. I don’t know if there are actually any useful shortcuts with Esc.
      I just use the trackpad but I can understand what you mean

  • @misterv6218
    @misterv6218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1020

    Basically what tech reviewers focus on:
    Unbox Therapy: Keyboard
    Dave Lee: Chips and Thermals
    MKBHD: The whole Macbook
    iJustine: Just whatever comes out of Apple

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Waits for Linus............(who is usually very fair with Apple reviews)

    • @MANTLECURVE
      @MANTLECURVE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Snazzy Labs?

    • @OutdoorsmenLee
      @OutdoorsmenLee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      You forgot the biggest apple fan. Jonathan

    • @yudhistiramelody3449
      @yudhistiramelody3449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Her name says it all

    • @seanwhitman4365
      @seanwhitman4365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Love inbox therapy but his laptop reviews are terrible. He can’t type but complains about keyboards lol

  • @farissyakirin8536
    @farissyakirin8536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Dave: I don’t want to go into the technical stuff of these products.
    Also Dave: *solidly dives into technical stuff

  • @metalks6008
    @metalks6008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1956

    Other tech tuber: *dramatic intro with instrumental beats
    Dave: OKAY SO...

    • @thebigboi5357
      @thebigboi5357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      So refreshing

    • @walphs
      @walphs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      He’s the best.

    • @metalks6008
      @metalks6008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thebigboi5357 true

    • @agentsmith64
      @agentsmith64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jonathan Morrison...

    • @aryan_singh24
      @aryan_singh24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      MrWhostheboss...

  • @isahak8644
    @isahak8644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +877

    “Its complicated”
    Dave 2019

  • @deanchur
    @deanchur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1075

    Dave2D: "The world's most powerful laptop that can use USB-C charging"
    Apple marketing: "The world's most powerful laptop" -Dave2D

    • @pikachulikesgambling5645
      @pikachulikesgambling5645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hahaha true true

    • @raidzor5452
      @raidzor5452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Dean Churchman They didn’t claim that anywhere...

    • @Askejm
      @Askejm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dave2D: I see what you did there

    • @RR-uc1wb
      @RR-uc1wb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Jokes aside, Apple don’t do that. They only say “it’s the most powerful MacBook ever”.

    • @JSarmat86
      @JSarmat86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch this video before buying MacBook
      th-cam.com/video/lTpHa70DDX0/w-d-xo.html

  • @rushsmith
    @rushsmith 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I have the sensation that this 16’’ MacBook Pro is a bridge in terms of design as the iPad 10.5’’ was. Next year they could keep the screen size and improve the form factor design including Liquid Retina rounded corners, Face ID as happened with the iPad 11 a year after the 10.5 iPad was launched.

    • @BlackDragon31000
      @BlackDragon31000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Liquid retina lmao

    • @Michael-zn2jc
      @Michael-zn2jc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rounded corners definitely won’t happen. FaceID is unlikely. I would actually prefer TouchID. MicroLED might happen. Apple Silicone definitely will happen. It really is a bridge though.

    • @utubekullanicisi
      @utubekullanicisi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely. And I think I can even guess what they’re exactly gonna call it: Liquid Retina XDR, since it’s also rumored to adopt MiniLED and hence, higher dynamic range (XDR stands for Extreme Dynamic Range in Apple’s terminology)

    • @utubekullanicisi
      @utubekullanicisi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Michael-zn2jc “Definitely won’t” why do you think so? On phones I agree I definitely prefer Touch ID but on laptops and tablets with keyboard cases I MUCH prefer facial authentication. Also this year won’t be the year we’ll be getting MicroLED, that’s farther ahead for now. This year what we’re supposedly getting is MiniLED, which is somewhere between IPS LCD with a standard backlight and MicroLED, so not quite at the contrast level of MicroLED.

    • @Michael-zn2jc
      @Michael-zn2jc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@utubekullanicisi I don’t know why I wrote MicroLed, but you’re right, I meant to say MiniLed. About the rounded displays, more recent “leaks” have led me to be believe it might happen but I’m still not sure. I just don’t see it as something important. It would probably cause problems viewing things in full screen so I don’t like the idea.

  • @AM-vs8ix
    @AM-vs8ix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1595

    It’s surprising that the 100 watts thing with the components isn’t mentioned more often

    • @eXoguti094
      @eXoguti094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +236

      @@adarshkmryadav the maximum power USB C can provide is 100W. You need all the components inside the laptop to draw under 100W of power so you can keep the USB C cable and power adapter. If you add a GTX GPU, those GPUs themselves will draw anywhere from 150W to 250W, with which you could no longer use USB C to charge and you would need a big bulky power brick to draw that power from the wall.

    • @pixel7038
      @pixel7038 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@eXoguti094 The best solution is an external GPU. Apple has 4 thunderbolt ports so it shouldn't be an issue other than money.

    • @nickbu
      @nickbu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      At this point, I'm even surprised that he mentioned that, cuz this has been a critical reason for me to consider the MacBooks, and barely anyone has ever mentioned it.

    • @donghyunkim2217
      @donghyunkim2217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Adarsh K. Yadav they also had some beef with nvidia. Also the amd graphic cards take much less battery . Amd graphics cards also have better compatibility with the external 4k displays

    • @airixxxx
      @airixxxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eXoguti094 the size of the power brick is not much bigger, the only thing that changes is the connector and cable.

  • @ritukiki4024
    @ritukiki4024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1384

    He proteccc
    He attaccc
    But most importantly
    He is still unsure about the mac

    • @Shanboss277
      @Shanboss277 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      RITU KIKI *macc

    • @mauriciovega957
      @mauriciovega957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      TRUE, BIG TRUE

    • @abubakrakram6208
      @abubakrakram6208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Is he though? He sounded pretty sure to me.

    • @aaaaaaxaaaaaa
      @aaaaaaxaaaaaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@abubakrakram6208 he's being as positive as he can without straight up lying because he wants to be able to keep reviewing apple products and not get blacklisted. Basically the whole review is, "it's good for what limitations it has". Not once did he say or imply that this is the best out there, or a great value or is it highly recommend. It's basically just "good". Not amazing. Not great. Just good.

    • @liyanns8998
      @liyanns8998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aaaaaaxaaaaaa true

  • @excessorizeme
    @excessorizeme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Dave approved. Time to move back to MacOS.

    • @vexus1093
      @vexus1093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      cringe os

    • @CH-gt4nj
      @CH-gt4nj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@vexus1093 Boohoo

    • @BaderHashmeh
      @BaderHashmeh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vexus1093 how is it cringy?

    • @cheechenc7260
      @cheechenc7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BaderHashmeh Apple bad. Dave even said that he prefers MacOS over windows

    • @BaderHashmeh
      @BaderHashmeh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cheechenc7260 i know that he said he prefers macos

  • @jarodritchie
    @jarodritchie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm visiting this over a year later and I cannot express enough how much I appreciate these review! Thank you

  • @wlsdnr0710
    @wlsdnr0710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    "Limitation that shouldn't have been there" - That's the best phrase to describe apple. They are so good at something, while they are weirdly limited in others.

    • @Kataroku
      @Kataroku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's Apple's entire business model. Limit a product *just* enough that someone becomes willing to spend another $400 for a $20 upgrade.

    • @boheyo
      @boheyo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ​@@Kataroku Microsoft with the entire Surface line too, they always lure you in with an appealing pricetag and then you click through and find out that's for a model nerfed in some horrible way like having a 2019 device with 4GB of RAM. You make Windows you assholes you know that won't run right.

    • @RR-uc1wb
      @RR-uc1wb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kataroku That’s basically every thin laptop these days. Lenovo, Apple, Microsoft, etc..

    • @wlsdnr0710
      @wlsdnr0710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What I meant was a bit different. Such as only type c IOs on macbooks, while everyone is using dongles, elimination of 3.5 headphone jack - it was pretty weird then.

    • @ACE112ACE112
      @ACE112ACE112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      These macbooks are so expensive

  • @seyofori
    @seyofori 4 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    "It's fairly priced... for an Apple product.." 😂😂... that had to be said..

  • @iAmCoded
    @iAmCoded 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really informative. This is the type of review I was looking for

  • @bran_moon
    @bran_moon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dave. I have an early 2015 MBP. I need to upgrade because it is finally starting to run slow and have some issues. I'm glad you made this video & addressed Adobe CS as well. That is some programs I have been wanting other tech reviewers to mention on its performance and haven't heard much on it yet. Keep it up Dave! Thanks for being a reviewer that is solid and honest on their reviews.

  • @nobody6075
    @nobody6075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +567

    Me : tring for a year to save to get a 500 dollar pc
    TH-cam : Lets recommend a 2400 dollar laptop to this guy

    • @mwdaros
      @mwdaros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Cash Ash I'm saying 😂

    • @edvando1258
      @edvando1258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Instead of saving just steal one

    • @juanmj93
      @juanmj93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey, I got a fully loaded 2014 15 inch for 480 dollars early this year (3200 when new), point being, this will also be a 500 dollars pc someday, just not soon haha

    • @mwdaros
      @mwdaros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@alarak2159 That whole sentence made no sense whatsoever

    • @mwdaros
      @mwdaros 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edvando1258 😂

  • @HisMajesty99
    @HisMajesty99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    A similar 14 inch MacBook Pro would literally be an instant buy for me.

    • @Eli-si4zf
      @Eli-si4zf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      His Majesty I can’t wait

    • @juantaverasiv741
      @juantaverasiv741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lew (from Unbox Therapy) said it's rumored they are NOT going with a 14 inch MacBook next year. You may have to wait at least 2 more years for that.

    • @Eli-si4zf
      @Eli-si4zf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Juan Taveras IV what reason would they have to not upgrade the 13”?

    • @olasogaolu7011
      @olasogaolu7011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Juan Taveras IV but I’m pretty sure they at least change the keyboard design. That’s enough for me.

    • @periabytes
      @periabytes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Fixed keyboard, no touch bar and fair priced base model.
      8gb ram/128gb ssd ain't cutting it for a "Pro" base model

  • @westxtsew
    @westxtsew 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice short review!
    I like a quick snapshots of teardowns. It was interesting to see some metal components on fans in comparison and the scissor switches being exposed.

  • @timotejkrajcovic
    @timotejkrajcovic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love this channel.
    I still have a 2019 13’ MBP though.

  • @MadmusicalHulk
    @MadmusicalHulk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review. Love watching your videos on here.
    Got mine on order but kept away from the i9 since I already have an iMac Pro 14x maxed out.
    Have gone for 64gb ram, 8gb video and 2tb storage since I’ll mainly be using it for audio and only some 4-8k A/V work.

  • @evgenii_g
    @evgenii_g 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    yep, finally upgrading from an early 2013 mbpr :) thanks for all your reviews, very useful!

    • @thomasrainbow
      @thomasrainbow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you like it? Which one did you get?

  • @LurichMichaelLee
    @LurichMichaelLee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen tons of reviews for the MBPro and yours is really good. The information you shared is very useful and original. 👍

  • @enzoreda2249
    @enzoreda2249 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was waiting for your review to pull the trigger, i’m sold !

  • @Indignation6
    @Indignation6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Apple and Valve are making something together.
    [Gaben intensify]

  • @cookie7993
    @cookie7993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    "The i9 is worth it"
    What did it cost?
    "Everything"

  • @adityabhargava6331
    @adityabhargava6331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I must say that the usb-c charging and intenal limitation is something i didn’t know about.
    Great Job on Reviews in your latest videos have improved way better in past few weeks.

  • @ASHbyGiM
    @ASHbyGiM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm in the market for a MB Pro since September 2017 and I waited and I waited and I waited because of reasons, but....I think now I can have a raliable machine for my work. Thank you Dave. Keep the good work!

  • @Abhinandan_Bang
    @Abhinandan_Bang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    16 inches of fixed MacBook.
    *Take 2*

    • @guitarplayer1994
      @guitarplayer1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Now SD Card Reader and Magsafe please

    • @guitarplayer1994
      @guitarplayer1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Swift Boiz I have to highly disagree on that. I'm a musician and a photographer and I need a SD card for both of my work fields. As a musician we tend to use audio recorders to record concerts to evaluate our own playing or just record a jam session to extract the best ideas. Yes, we could use our phones for that but the audio quality of a phone will never reach the same quality of a dedicated audio recorder especially in high volume situations.
      As photographer I have to disagree even more. I can tell you that all cameras have SD cards. ALL of them. Sony's flagship mirrorless camera the A7s III came out in February last year and it uses 2(!!!) SD cards. All professional grade Canon cameras use SD cards. Even their full frame mirrorless camera that came out last year uses SD cards. Given, they have wifi build into them but the purpose of that is not to transfer data from the camera to the computer but to trigger your camera with your phone.
      Don't forget videographers, same thing just moving pictures. Have you ever tried downloading a 30gb file?
      Photographers, Videographers and other creators that are in desperate need of the SD Card readers were turning away from the 2016 MBP's one big reason was the ports. Sara Dietschy, Chris Hau, Lizzie Pierce and many others.
      And those USB-C Magsafes. Never heard of an review that said those won't break after a few months of usage.
      Sorry for the rant but I've never seen such an uneducated statement...

    • @Eli-si4zf
      @Eli-si4zf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      guitarplayer1994 I get that an SD card reader might be super useful for you, but the vast majority of people don’t use one. Also I love the MagSafe on my 2012 but being able to plug in my laptop from either side would be more convenient.
      Just because swiftboy’s point didn’t meet your particular use case doesn’t mean it was uneducated

    • @Eli-si4zf
      @Eli-si4zf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Swift Boiz I wouldn’t bother arguing with him. The most creative thing he’s ever done is come up with the username guitarplayer lol.

    • @guitarplayer1994
      @guitarplayer1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Swift Boiz Well, it's all about convenience. Let's start with the dictaphones. First of all: I have studio microphones. USB microphones for any musician are utterly useless (don't want to go into the reasons here). I don't want to bring my laptop, my audiointerface, my microphone, my stand and cables to a concert when I AM ON STAGE performing, to review the performance afterwards. First convenience second: Somebody might steal it.
      Oh by the way, I'm in Europe: Not everybody has a car.
      Let's get to adapter things: Have you ever forgotten a toothbrush when you went traveling?
      It's about convenience. I don't want to carry around adapters all the time, at this price tag I want a machine that's a stand alone. USB-C I get behind it's the future, I get it. I even encourage it.
      But hell ... There's a reason why people call it the dongle book pro.
      I don't even necessarily have a problem with adapters: Get one for your monitor/TV/beamer/whatever and just leave on the cable, problem solved.
      SD card is a different thing man. I don't want to be carrying around 3000 cables to do basic work.
      And yes there are plenty of laptops to choose from, I still use my 2013 MBP and pray that it'll last as long as "it takes for the industry to adopt the latest and greatest ports". As I mentioned earlier a lot of creators moved away from Macbooks for that exact convenience.
      I don't know you or your field of expertise but you clearly haven't been in the fields of music, photography or videography.

  • @jaideeparora_
    @jaideeparora_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Dave for putting out such honest and soothing reviews for us. You've gained our trust and faith in you. Thank you! Keep doing your thing :)

  • @_kikaso
    @_kikaso 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your laptop reviews are my favorite. Keep up the great work.

  • @TechAfrica
    @TechAfrica 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dave, your videos are very well made and always simple. I love your work.

  • @we4kass
    @we4kass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    My day is complete, I heard dave’s voice.

  • @loganyoder1978
    @loganyoder1978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video got me double the storage, 2 more cores, and the i9 for only $100 more. Thank you for making the suggestion to really consider the i9!

  • @thepixelpusher
    @thepixelpusher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave always brings it on his videos! Great job Dave!!!

  • @bobyjeans1452
    @bobyjeans1452 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You always another perspective and are interesting. Thank you for sharing with us.

  • @Videosrgd
    @Videosrgd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Dave, would love to see a Concept D review! Have been so curious since it was in your Creator's laptop video

    • @SomeUnremarkableGuy
      @SomeUnremarkableGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      really rare comment with some sense. what the fuck is happening with comment section recent years.
      you came here to see the review of the product, comment something about it and yet bunch of 9 year olds with their stupid meme comments they think is somewhat is funny.
      even memes aren´t what they used to be before.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In his "Razer Blade broke" video, he said that it throttled and the drives got way too hot.

  • @germangomez9978
    @germangomez9978 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this are the reviews why i'm subscribed to dave, love you man

  • @briand9917
    @briand9917 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave your channel is awesome. This video is truly real talk. Keep them coming bro

  • @ArtDracula
    @ArtDracula 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Listening to Dave talk is like the first time I heard The Beatles.

    • @Artuficially-
      @Artuficially- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Superbad reference? haha.

  • @chickencurry7642
    @chickencurry7642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    His and Linus's reviews are more legit compared to other YT reviewers

    • @daniyalshah1503
      @daniyalshah1503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could you tell me some examples of ineffective tech reviewers?

    • @joelrs1184
      @joelrs1184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and mkbhd

    • @ameliabuns4058
      @ameliabuns4058 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      linus tech tips a lot of times says bad things about devices if they don't pay them enough or just say nonsense too. I don't ever trust youtubers really. tho dave usually is trustable.
      also don't forget to read consumer reviews. a lot of models have common issues. I got an ux430ua once cause every review was good. the display died in a year. turns out it was VERY common with the model. lukcily I got a full refund but still something to keep in mind. I just got lucky to get a refund.

    • @hrishikeshparab1236
      @hrishikeshparab1236 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zone of tech is also very good ...more in-depth review

    • @barneylinux
      @barneylinux 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheWobblyEmily Ltt doesn’t get paid for reviews.

  • @LindaLooUK
    @LindaLooUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch a lot of tech related videos but I just wanted to say that I **REALLY** rate your channel and your intelligent approach to reviewing products. I don't want someone to just reel off lots of specs as I can see all that on the web. You're doing a fantastic job. Thank you. 👍👍👍🥰

  • @shstar
    @shstar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Your review was awesome. Learnt something new today about laptop power flow mechanism.

  • @alexandermallinckrodt2847
    @alexandermallinckrodt2847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    With the iPhone 11 and 11 Pros, iPadOS, and the 16” MacBook Pro Apple really seems to be listening and taking on feedback, and the products seem to be decent value. So yeah. Good job Apple.

    • @ajharhussain898
      @ajharhussain898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It's definitely in the right direction. Hopefully it carries on like this and I might go back to Apple.

    • @TheSeko2323
      @TheSeko2323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And the airpods pro. Like dave said: It reminds people why apple was so succesful in the first place.

    • @Echoes-
      @Echoes- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everyone wanted USB-C on the iPhone 11, but no. So i don't think they really care that much what people want.

    • @georgeelsham
      @georgeelsham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Echoes- You've probably heard a million times about iPhones having 3 year cycles - so 2020 is due to be the big update (where the shape and general look of the phone changes, as well as all the other features)

    • @Echoes-
      @Echoes- 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@georgeelsham Yeah, still don't understand his point about iPhone 11 however.

  • @jonathaningram8157
    @jonathaningram8157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I wish it had more flaws. Now I will have to buy it... too bad :)

  • @souljacem
    @souljacem 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    a very cool, chill video. liked the review a lot. you're doing a great and minimalistic job! keep it up

  • @designninja8204
    @designninja8204 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the vid. I found it informative. I was holding off purchasing the 16" since my experience with the 2018. This video may change my mind.

  • @arnavgoyal1899
    @arnavgoyal1899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Dave back in the hands of Tim Apple!

  • @CEKROM
    @CEKROM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    4:47 The Steam CEO on a Mac, imteresting =D

    • @defaultmesh
      @defaultmesh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Half-Life 3 confirmed

    • @robertmallare
      @robertmallare 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mac has 3 letters... y’all know where this is going...

    • @motaat7643
      @motaat7643 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ”steam ceo” :DDDD

  • @WorldReserveCurrency
    @WorldReserveCurrency 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was quick and to the point. Love it!

  • @ismailo34
    @ismailo34 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You always do laptop review better than any other youtuber out there and you honest about it so keep it up lee

  • @aquapillareilleahpar3129
    @aquapillareilleahpar3129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    "The esc key fulfilled it's destiny, and lived happily ever after"

  • @KryptoniteYtGaming
    @KryptoniteYtGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    I don’t know if this is stupid but is it any coincidence that Apple has started to listen to peoples criticisms about the design of their products after Jony Ive left? Just curious.

    • @abubakrakram6208
      @abubakrakram6208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Like Saucy said, I doubt the whole blame on Ive thing since he was here for literal decades prior to the complaints rising up. I also feel like some of the issues people have exist only in their heads. Like the iPhone being too thin and not having enough battery, even though it's consistently gotten thicker since the iPhone 6.

    • @KryptoniteYtGaming
      @KryptoniteYtGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AbuBakr Akram I agree, I just wanted to see because I thought about this for a while and the timing of it marches up. It's most likely just a coincidence.

    • @XenonG
      @XenonG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah it is true. It is a well known fact that Jony Ive left because he was increasingly irritated at the higher ups not being even near as involved in product design as Steve Jobs was.
      They couldn't entirely rely on Jony(he was super demotivated and not even in the office for most days of the week before leaving) anymore so they decided to do market research themselves.
      Still, Phil is still there so they didn't fuck it up.

    • @adamlax27
      @adamlax27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OMGitsNICK i wouldn’t be surprised if apple are designing products years in advance. This was probably almost finalised before Ive left

    • @XenonG
      @XenonG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@adamlax27 With how Apple do their macbook motherboards and hardware refreshes? Nah.

  • @SaifulIslamRana0
    @SaifulIslamRana0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always The Real Talk! I have seen other videos like unboxT but the just go with flow!
    But Hearing logical explanations is worth it

  • @vladxs2000
    @vladxs2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most honest 16" inch macbook pro review so far. Excelent work Dave, keep it up!

  • @tipoomaster
    @tipoomaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Will it still dip into the battery while plugged in on a full CPU+GPU load?

  • @martinsoendergaard-jensen9602
    @martinsoendergaard-jensen9602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Love your videos man. I really wish Apple would bring back upgradable hardware, they're on the right track with the keyboard at least.

    • @hildekrone5108
      @hildekrone5108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The odds of that happening is slim to none

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love for something between the Mini and Pro would exist on the desktop side of things, something besides the iMac I mean, a small tower, with good but not necessarily crazy performance and easy to upgrade/expand.

    • @Prodzick
      @Prodzick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The mac pro is upgradable but it's not a general consumer device at all.
      And i need the people that bring back the keyboard,who bring it some thickness and making it better for the same price...oh well it would have been hard to make it more expensive.

    • @Billy123bobzzz
      @Billy123bobzzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There ain't nobody that has upgradable hardware. NOBODY. I have looked and there is not one name brand that allows me to swap to the newest CPU, and the newest GPU. NOBODY, so I wish everyone would stop crying about his already since swapping the drive or adding a bit more RAM just will not give me the performance most that I can get with a CPU and GPU upgrade.

    • @ojasthengadi9681
      @ojasthengadi9681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not possible to give upgradable laptop considering how slim it is. And all companies only offer upgradable ram now nothing else

  • @daromee
    @daromee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As usual your reviews are totally unbiased and totally with two feet on the ground .thanks !!!

  • @kevinclatter4tg
    @kevinclatter4tg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best video I’ve watched about the 16” MacBook Pro. Very short and brief. Straight to the point. Great video!!!

  • @jsalv24
    @jsalv24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Someone else finally mentions the power thing :O

  • @HIGHLIGHTJJANG
    @HIGHLIGHTJJANG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Its good. 👌🏻"
    ~ Dave Lee

  • @aaronjamesguevarra
    @aaronjamesguevarra 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a real review and not just another “tech reviewer” talking about specs already available in Apple’s website. Great job and very informative points given! Sub earned!

  • @ashwanthseshadri2656
    @ashwanthseshadri2656 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best reviews for a Mac. Thanks Dave!

  • @jimmyjackson1985
    @jimmyjackson1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd say this is just about perfect for a macbook. Only thing missing for me is a 120+ hz screen.

  • @TheAlienGangster
    @TheAlienGangster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    For such a large grille, the speakers look very small when viewed inside.

    • @expl0de
      @expl0de 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's for ventilation mainly

  • @SocietateaAscendenta
    @SocietateaAscendenta 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could sit and watch your videos all day long...
    I learn more things than I have ever learned in a university class!

  • @SteveHaworth1
    @SteveHaworth1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    dave you rock ... constant great reviews and advice ... totally trust you

  • @MidnightBloomDev
    @MidnightBloomDev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    How did you fix the keyboard?
    *Apple:* MaGiC

    • @realcartoongirl
      @realcartoongirl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      apple: *reuses an old design*
      apple: mAgiC

  • @2136enrique
    @2136enrique 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dave really know the value of time video starts at 0:04 👐🏻

  • @AseshShrestha
    @AseshShrestha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this great review. I was waiting for this review. Now I will go with i9 😁

  • @zulsaad9708
    @zulsaad9708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clear n very informative, keep up your noble efforts. 5 Stars from me in Shah Alam, Malaysia

  • @valerietan9304
    @valerietan9304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @Dave Lee Thank you for the videos, I'm a fan. But how does the Wifi 6 affects anything?
    - Buying second hand 2019 Macbook Pro 16IN for $2,000.

  • @ajeshashok6
    @ajeshashok6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Is anyine gonna talk about the fan noise on this thing?! I'm a music producer and I'd love to see a Logic Pro stress test.

    • @tonyj8011
      @tonyj8011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrethedias Well that's a stupid question.

  • @steadfast78
    @steadfast78 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave’s review, easy to understand, no BS. Thank you

  • @WillyJunior
    @WillyJunior 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave has some absolutely astounding insights into tech. Impressive.

  • @happymealtm2710
    @happymealtm2710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Refreshing take on the new 16”, thanks man.

  • @rishisoumik
    @rishisoumik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Dave: "Pricing is fair for an Apple product"
    Me: 😵

    • @Enover5
      @Enover5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      That's it. That's the comment to rule them all.
      The pricing isn't fairer, Dave, you've just grown accustomed to it. Like an awful lot of people btw.

    • @sumant_warhekar
      @sumant_warhekar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In addition to that, we are Indian's 😂

    • @Ryuudo123
      @Ryuudo123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Enover5 like an awful lot of sheep you mean :)

    • @TheBlashMusic
      @TheBlashMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Nicolas Terny Nah, it really is worth the money. Good luck finding a comparable windows machine (Specs & build quality) in that price range.

    • @abdellahherri1135
      @abdellahherri1135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@TheBlashMusic i hope you are sarcastic, for the specs, you can get a windows based laptop with the same specs for less than half the price (like Dell XPS Series for example), and the build quality ????, yeah it looks good from the outside (like any another windows premuim series) but the amount of internal/hardware issues is far more than any other company ( you can look on the internet for the hardware pooblemes encountered in any macbook series)

  • @crushbent
    @crushbent 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys ever appreciate the fact that Dave's videos seem to have no cuts and he rarely makes mistakes or stutters?

  • @imthenumber14
    @imthenumber14 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @DaveLee man your video its so good to watch. You explain all the tech products so clearly and concise, you are really able to capture my attention and make me come to a decision right to the end whether I want or don't want to buy a product. What do you think Apple is cooking for next year's MacBook Pro 13"? what should we expect coming into it?
    Keep bringing more reviews!

  • @nmzamora
    @nmzamora 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Apple has been really good this year.. wow. It's been a while since I felt that way.

    • @RR-uc1wb
      @RR-uc1wb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      NeuesTestament Find one device that is equivalent to the MacBook Pro and is cheaper that isn’t an older MacBook Pro. You won’t find any.
      In the realm of speakers, microphone, and trackpad, no one touches Apple

    • @hito4863
      @hito4863 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      NeuesTestament the keyboard debacle was unacceptable, but it's undeniable that there's nothing like a MacBook.

    • @niteowl2397
      @niteowl2397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@RR-uc1wb If it wasn't for MacOS I wouldn't give these notebooks a second look.

  • @muhammadhamzasumbal5110
    @muhammadhamzasumbal5110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I felt cool when he said 'community of technological Enthusiast ' at 4:55.

  • @duke4279
    @duke4279 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave you are awesome, absolutely love your reviews! And lmao at the thank goodness part 😂

  • @aaronm.bermudez7440
    @aaronm.bermudez7440 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Direct to the point. Excellent review!

  • @greggoodenough5607
    @greggoodenough5607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I keep watching these expecting somebody to be like "oh, and I found an sd card ready built in here!" Lol

  • @DashedSimpusMaximus
    @DashedSimpusMaximus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Apple being recommend by Dace2D, it has been a while since I saw that.

    • @leventeosvath7054
      @leventeosvath7054 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He always recommends them because he's blinded by the Apple logo on it. Not just this one

  • @rutpshah
    @rutpshah 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the detailed information.

  • @tiNgk0y1
    @tiNgk0y1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    to the point, no butterfly effects or so just plain good review. thank you

  • @CrappyProducts
    @CrappyProducts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not gonna talk technically - proceeds talking technically

  • @nickalevras
    @nickalevras 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    “I’m glad they didn’t put an RTX or GTX in here because then it can’t be charged by 100W USB-C...it can’t be done”
    I’m typing this comment from an X1 Extreme Gen 2 with an i9 & GTX being charged by...you guessed it- a 100W USB-C

    • @MHWGamer
      @MHWGamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the argument is just BS by Dave. Of course a gtx2080 (or even lower) will burn through the battery in hours (or better minutes haha) but the thing can still be charged, EVEN with only a small 100W power brick on a plane! The battery will still drain if you use 100% cpu and gpu, but you hardly ever use full power on a plane.
      If you just use sub 100watt performance on a plane, you can perfectly use a different 100watt psu and it will charge nevertheless.

    • @ibro_47
      @ibro_47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @gravis34 how is the battery life?
      Do you have the 4k screen?
      Also do you use Windows or Linux?
      I want to buy it but I'm still hesitating

    • @anarki_in5680
      @anarki_in5680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In all honesty I think Dave2D misspoke because the GTX 1650 max-q in your Thinkpad has a similar power envelope to the AMD Radeon Pro 5500M but is not as powerful.

    • @ryan_cowan
      @ryan_cowan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which GTX? A low end GTX is probably comparable to the AMD 5500M 8GB in performance. Dave's point is that a more POWERful GPU, by definition, can't run at full steam on Power Delivery standard because it maxes out at 100 watt of continuous supply. Charging a laptop battery and powering the device are also different concepts

    • @anarki_in5680
      @anarki_in5680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ryan Cowan Hear him at 3:06. “RTX or GTX ANYTHING inside here, it won’t work under the 100W USB-C limit”. That’s factually incorrect, since the 5500M is comparable or can outperform the GTX 1650 with the same power envelope.
      If they were closer to NVIDIA still, they would’ve used the 1650 (like they used the 750m in the 15” in the past).

  • @muhammadhaykalaulia908
    @muhammadhaykalaulia908 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, relly help me to determine to buy it, we are waiting for your next video, keep healthy and keep uploading

  • @Swedeninthahood
    @Swedeninthahood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kudos, love ur vids man!!

  • @EzDoesntExist
    @EzDoesntExist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    they way you explained why they choose amd graphic rather than nvida is really satisfying. Might be not the full reason but at least one of them. thanks Dave!

  • @ilink06
    @ilink06 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Everything still soldered on the main board?

    • @Shogun1982
      @Shogun1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yep, engineered obsolescence is still an included feature of the Macbook lineup.

    • @daniel_960_
      @daniel_960_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      crookback don’t buy it. Then it’s the wrong product for you. If you open it up you will see there’s not much space for replaceable stuff. Soldering takes way less space. And they have to fit 64gb ram, 8tb ssd, cpu, gpu, 100wh battery and thermals in such thin device.
      If you don’t need the thin device don’t get it. Im sorry apple doesn’t have an option that fits you.
      But it’s possible to install mac os on some windows laptops, if that’s what you want.

    • @ThatcherKSA
      @ThatcherKSA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Those specs should last you 5-6 years though.

    • @SanjeewaRamanayaka
      @SanjeewaRamanayaka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup...processer... memory..ram..if failure one of those units you need to pay big money to restore..

    • @lakorai2
      @lakorai2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup. Still soldered and still glued. Fuxk that. Hard pass.
      If the ssd or ram fails it means a $1000+ motherboard replacement.

  • @kingvidor7682
    @kingvidor7682 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the slight zoom into the match cut with the keyboard key removed was really nice editing

  • @EastMontana1
    @EastMontana1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lee, you are always the best on your comments. Thank you once again. Marc

  • @ITSNICKMELLO
    @ITSNICKMELLO ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @6:20
    Apple: Well actually…

  • @Felixucoelpeluco
    @Felixucoelpeluco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I don’t know, I think MagSafe was more valuable 😂

  • @timsandock9554
    @timsandock9554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Dave,
    I was waiting for your review to come out so thank you for this video!
    Also congrats on having 2.5 Mio. (!!!) followers! Nice work! Well deserved!
    To the MacBook pro:
    I still have the MacBook Air 2013. The keyboard is good, the escape key is like on the 16' as well as the arrow-keys. So is the 16' worth it?
    The price is huge if you think about what its main job is. Some of your followers are gamers, or video editors but I mostly use a laptop for work, surfing, shopping, picture editing and a bit of video editing etc. So my question: What non-apple laptop compares to the MacBook Pro 16' in November 2019 and is worth to be purchased despite living in an apple-system: apple watch, iPhone and AirPods?
    I would love to see that comparison and your view on that.
    Thank you very much and keep it up. Love your channel!

  • @salihtopcu
    @salihtopcu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like the way you do your job dave, congrats.