I went back to Intel and… I liked it?

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  • Ok hear me out…. I went back to my 2019 15 inch Core i9 MacBook Pro for a little while after becoming weary of the large size of the new 16 inch Apple Silicon MacBook Pro. The 15 inch with butterfly keyboard was not a popular design for a number of obvious reasons, but today I’d like to revisit one key way in which the design was very very successful!
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  • @jimhibert
    @jimhibert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    Sure, apart from the bezels, the touch bar, the butterfly keyboard, the awful thermals, not to mention the performance gap, and the price, it was a great laptop!

    • @ColonelLucario
      @ColonelLucario 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      That’s a lot of things to exclude xD

    • @ConorORegan
      @ConorORegan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Bezels really aren’t that important on a laptop especially on most MacBooks since they weren’t that bad

    • @S3XYEV
      @S3XYEV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL 😆

    • @hbarcellos76
      @hbarcellos76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not bezels… it’s a full width notch.

    • @jevill2172
      @jevill2172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You described a full laptop

  • @xmetal280
    @xmetal280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    I have a 2019 15” for work and would never go back. The heat, noise, lack of battery life (which I’ve also had to replace twice due to bulging battery cells) and less color accurate, smaller screen (plus the nasty keyboard) are leagues different than the new pros. If you travel professionally than sure, maybe that extra half pound and an inch would kill ya but for most desk-focused people those size differences have no practical usability effect. The changes Apple made on the new Pros are focused in the right places, even if it resulted in a bit more size.

    • @illegalsmirf
      @illegalsmirf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are you gay?

    • @applesunderthesun3240
      @applesunderthesun3240 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the butterfly keyboard beach of the sound of the click and the clack when it works it is wonderful I do have a few broken keys myself but if there were no broken key this would be my favorite... my personal favorite would be the keyboard from the OG MacBook Pro of 2006 and then Powerbooks

    • @siddharthagupta8528
      @siddharthagupta8528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apple silicon refresh would eliminate these drawbacks
      Just cuz it isn’t useful for you doesn’t mean others wouldn’t like it. A moderately big laptop that can still be carried around easily and doesn’t need cutting edge performance would slot in really well in the market … lots of people bought 15” mbp’s just for the size

    • @casanelbosco.livetpalandet4841
      @casanelbosco.livetpalandet4841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen!

    • @agunzterizer
      @agunzterizer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      mine has the worst battery ever and replacing it is more expensive than purchasing a new one.

  • @lukemiani
    @lukemiani  2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Would you buy a 15 inch MacBook Air? I think some people are missing the point of the video, which is that the *form factor* of the old 15" has a lot of potential as a new category for an ultralight MacBook Air that can now match (and exceed) this level of performance. I'm not saying Intel is better, this particular design is better, or that I would replace the new thicker design

    • @jerem0621
      @jerem0621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I would, yep. I love my M1 Air. I would love a bigger screen though

    • @momaw_C1-10P
      @momaw_C1-10P 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Absolutely. The Pro series is overkill for my needs, but the Air screen is too small. I live in an apartment so don't have the space for a full desktop monitor but with lockdowns and work from home requirements, a 13" or even 14" is too small to work on all day every day. 15" is that sweet spot for longer use and portability and with the ability to use my 11" ipad pro as a second screen it is an ideal work from home set up for those in small living spaces..

    • @maahinberi
      @maahinberi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
      I can’t recall how many times I’ve had the exact same conversation with my friends. I really like the bigger screen and I don’t need the power for my personal laptop. Unfortunately, the only option for me right now is the base model 16”
      I WANT a 16” Air

    • @Cville2347
      @Cville2347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely
      I don’t think Apple will ever produce a 15 inch Air but I am all in if they do.😎

    • @jbjefe
      @jbjefe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This has been my wish. A bigger Apple silicon MacBook Air

  • @MaxTechOfficial
    @MaxTechOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    I switched from my old 2018 15” MBP to the new 16” M1 Max. I’m been trying to sell the old one and nobody wants it. Already down to $970 for it. No interest at all. That laptop was noisy, slow, buggy, meh.. the M1 MacBook Air destroys it in basically every way.

    • @lukemiani
      @lukemiani  2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The 2018s have been specially hard hit for sure! Weirdly the 2016/17s haven't had too much impact even though they're the least powerful and have the worst butterfly keyboards!

    • @PedroPauloAmorim
      @PedroPauloAmorim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I had the same device, had two logic board problems in 2 years. It's a oven cooking the internals until they fail. They worth $0 in my opinion and should be left in the storage and only used I case extreme need. They will die eventually like the Xbox 360 did.

    • @Applecompuser
      @Applecompuser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @ Max Tech - That’s cos the 2018 had thermal issues and the flawed butterfly keyboard.

    • @movdqa
      @movdqa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'd rather have a 2015 than any 2016-2018.

    • @Applecompuser
      @Applecompuser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@movdqa I can't speak to that, but I waited til the 2019 16 inch MBP then pulled the trigger. I have not used it much for work, but due to pandemic, will be taking classes come August 2022 and plan to use it then. Best to all.

  • @LayerbyLayerOfficial
    @LayerbyLayerOfficial 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They did! in the 15" MacBook Air!

  • @fredngo
    @fredngo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I upgraded from the 2015 15" MBP to the 2021 16" MBP and there's basically no difference at all in size. I guess that's the good part of having missed out on the entire butterfly keyboard generation of MBPs. 😆

    • @DJ-Coma
      @DJ-Coma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here!!! Before I got the 16” M1 I was worried it would be too big and was pleasantly surprised when they were more or less the exact same dimensions.

    • @sipanievan8126
      @sipanievan8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
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    • @edimarjunior572
      @edimarjunior572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, the thing is, the 2015" version has the same 2012 design. You bought a laptop that is bulkier than a 10y old one.

    • @DJ-Coma
      @DJ-Coma 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edimarjunior572 you mean the 2021 version?

    • @luv2stack
      @luv2stack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DJ-Coma No, he means retina which released in mid 2012

  • @AnonimInc
    @AnonimInc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I use a 16” from 2019, and my plan is to switch to a strong Apple silicon iMac, while having a light laptop on the side for travel and stuff. A 15” Air would be a dream come true for me as well

    • @youngscoping7696
      @youngscoping7696 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      is coming

    • @tsukki4969
      @tsukki4969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      congratulations

    • @pearlos
      @pearlos ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it is today, the MacBook Air M2 15 inch

    • @tamalchakraborty5346
      @tamalchakraborty5346 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You got your dream. Maybe soon with a M3.

  • @chris9352
    @chris9352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Apple : Let make our laptops thin
    Tech TH-camrs : We wouldn't mind thicker laptops for a better thermal and keyboard
    Apple : Ok we listened and here is the M1 Pro/Max laptops.
    Tech TH-camrs : We wouldn't mind the previous thin design!
    WTF? 😂😂😂

    • @mrparts
      @mrparts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It seems that youtubers are trying to make new content to satisfy the Google algorithms and they ran out of ideas and are posting dumb stuff like this.

    • @lukemiani
      @lukemiani  2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      TH-camrs: make videos expressing ideas
      Comments: oversimplify and ignore the points and concessions of the video
      TH-camrs: ...
      I never said to get rid of the thick design, rather add a new category for a large screen portable device that some would find appealing.

    • @jasonwasserman4194
      @jasonwasserman4194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This dude flip flops on everything.

    • @lvseka
      @lvseka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lukemiani Aren't the new designs technically the same size as the old ones if you consider the bulge?

    • @S3XYEV
      @S3XYEV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍 agree! ....The problem is comparing the new 16" MacBook Pro M1 to older MacBooks. If you compare it to PC laptops, I was carrying around a 15" that was twice as thick, twice as heavy 🪨, and slightly bigger.... The new 16" MacBook Pro M1 is a dream slim, light-weight, 16" in a 15" form factor, laptop to me! ....and minus the poor battery life, fan noise, heat, and low performance........ 👍😎💜

  • @manoloelcarabolo47
    @manoloelcarabolo47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    For me as an Software engineer in Spain, and also as a owner of the 2019 16 inch MacBook Pro and 16 inch m1 pro MacBook. I have to say it. Battery life is a game changer. I still use both of them because windows in my old 16 inch and I can feel the difference between them. Secondly, once you tried 120 hertz there is no come back to 60 hz. For me it is impossible. I like more the new keyboard. In my opinion, the new ones feels better. I like them more. With the black background it is nicer and easier to type. Also it doesn't get as hot as the old one. The only thing I really miss is the touchbar. I am Touch Bar guy, sorry.
    About the size, for my usage it is not very noticeable. My bag is big enough to carry both of them and also my iPad Pro. But I have to agree with you, the new ones feels more chunky and bigger than the old ones. Every time I use the intel MacBook I see it more futuristic than the new one, which it feels something more classic and older, like it was from an earlier generation. I will buy if Apple releases it, the new 15 inch MacBook Air, with that kind of design you are saying, I am a screen real state fan as well!!
    By the way, I was waiting for someone from the TH-cam community to share a video like you did to share my opinion and see what did they think about the new design. Now I don't feel lonely in this side.
    Love your content Luke.
    I learnt most of my English by watching your videos!!

    • @CrisGarcia6
      @CrisGarcia6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I felt that the M1 macbook pros are not even ready for The applications to be able to run such as wrong such as using my DHW and plugins that are still not ready for the M1. I might get the 2019 16" macbook pro with more RAM, Storage, and i9 in the further future.

    • @FabioVisentin7
      @FabioVisentin7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with you i prefer old design than new was more futuristic the new ones are like old design apple is discounting all the 16 inch means is not selling good

    • @BringMayFlowers
      @BringMayFlowers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely never going back to 60Hz, and it's not even a new thing, I have a few CRT monitors and they all go way above 60Hz, and it's a struggle to use a 60Hz panel for me anymore when I could easily be using a 100Hz display instead.

  • @andresvidoza
    @andresvidoza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    As a web dev, video editor and "photographer", M1 Pro 14" FTW! Love the content Luke.

    • @shloknayak6830
      @shloknayak6830 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      see who's here!!! I love your content... Will be back on Sunday when new vid drops 😄

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol enjoy the notch apple sheep

    • @elfedorausado
      @elfedorausado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ps5hasnogames55 I assure you, they are enjoying it. Stop dumping on others for enjoying the cup of tea you don't like. Windows user here, just in case.

    • @ps5hasnogames55
      @ps5hasnogames55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elfedorausado no one likes the notch, nor the fact apple made the entire top of the display useless in full screen lol

    • @elfedorausado
      @elfedorausado 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ps5hasnogames55 yet, still, they sell them and people buy.them

  • @mattpipes5106
    @mattpipes5106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really like the size of my 13” M1 MBP and it has all the performance I need… If the screen were a little larger I wouldn’t be mad about it, so I think a lot of people would go for a 15” MacBook Air, if the price was right. The battery life would probably be off the hook too.

  • @YouNoThank
    @YouNoThank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I just got the 2017 macbook pro 15inch speced out almost and tbh I love it. The dedicated graphics are good for gaming, video production, and overall handles what I need. I had the 12inch macbook and never had issues with the butterfly keyboards and kinda liked it.

  • @willmarklew9612
    @willmarklew9612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My personal view is that the 13" MBP is the perfect size. When I'm at home I'll connect it to my large monitor and when I'm away from home I don't usually spend hours on my laptop so the smaller 13" screen is just perfect. But then I haven't had my hands on one of the 14" models yet!
    I had a 15" model when I was at uni and it just didn't work for me from a portability perspective!

    • @lukemathws
      @lukemathws 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I felt the same way! But when I got my hands on the new m1 mbp it didn't feel like that big of a change. It's still a really portable device.

    • @halami2149
      @halami2149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My sister has the 13 M1 MBP, it’s straight up too small. The form factor is fine, but the screen is just way too small. The 14 inch is honestly perfect, with its super slim bezels, gives you way more screen in a similar form factor

  • @JP-sw5ho
    @JP-sw5ho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That’s a tight rope you’re walking, bemoaning MacBooks for sacrificing thermals and performance, and then turning around and bemoaning MacBooks for being too chunky- and sacrificing thinness for performance.

  • @NateTheMeh
    @NateTheMeh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I switched from a 13 inch Touch Bar MBP, and the new 16 inch form factor is AMAZING I love looking at the screen and the entire build is so so much better

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Luke, I will admit that I thought this video was about getting some views only. After watching it I am glad I saw it. Some valid points have been made.
    Good work today sir.

  • @codingkid3937
    @codingkid3937 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel that the 2019 macbook pro is the best keyboard apple has ever made on a laptop. It feels tactile enough and has enough travel for it to feel nice and pleasant to type on. I did try the new M1 Max macbook pro keyboard, though it feels nice, i do not like it as much as the 2019 keyboard. I hate the touch-bar though. I was a interesting concept but not implemented properly.

  • @te71se
    @te71se 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    the time it took that 15" to wake up at 01:08 demonstrates one of the many things wrong with the Intel. I do prefer the form factor of the 15" or 16" Intel MBP but damn I don't miss the incredibly poor battery life, the constant feeling of being hot hot hot on your lap, or when you plug in an external monitor and the 5300M & 5500M models start getting hot and spinning up the fans while sitting there idling.

    • @marvinpyles3274
      @marvinpyles3274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's the problem with my 2020 XPS!! Its fast as heck .. i9 32gb, nice graphic card. But it Runs hot all the time, boot time is slow and problematic, and it's heavy, and it always dying. Plus win 11 is quirky at times. But l love screen and keyboard. I recently bought a 13 mbp m1 and love it. I do hate the lack of ports but everything else is gold!!

    • @sipanievan8126
      @sipanievan8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Special love content over 18 years old
      NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE
      tricks I do not know
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter
      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
      Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
      Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
      Dene: '' Muzdak ''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
      💗❤️💌💘

    • @brunob8827
      @brunob8827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Intel is not the problem…
      I have early 2015 mbp 13 on mojave and it wakes from sleep in literally 1 second.
      Apple is just slowly sabotaging its own products through software updates to make new products seem “revolutionary”…

    • @seshpenguin
      @seshpenguin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brunob8827 I don't think that delay there was anything intentional or malicious, I have the same laptop running Monterey and it too wakes from sleep in about a second or two (still slower than Apple silicon though, which is near instant).

    • @brunob8827
      @brunob8827 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seshpenguin thats good to hear, but I find it very confusing because some people have no issues with older macs but then on the other side there are ones that bash anything that is intel or last gen…

  • @JeffCrumpley
    @JeffCrumpley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the 15” MacBook Air talk. I would love to see/have that product.

  • @MrJDubYou
    @MrJDubYou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A 15" air M1/2 would be perfect for me too. I have the 15" 2018 MBP.

  • @normaneshuchi5474
    @normaneshuchi5474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My 2017 15 inch MacBook pro feels really good to date. And for my web development workloads, it just runs perfectly. No crazy fan noise. No crazy heat issues. It still looks stellar and I am indifferent about the touch bar.

    • @thewizardsofthezoo5376
      @thewizardsofthezoo5376 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't use i? It's great you can set it up for a lot of stuff when you code!

  • @wossaaaat
    @wossaaaat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I used my old 17" mbp on planes all the time... This 16" feels small and light after carrying that around for 10yrs.

    • @somberjack
      @somberjack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @S4f3ty_Marc
      @S4f3ty_Marc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just made exactly the same comment! I don't know what airplanes he's flying on, I''ve had no problems using a 17" on planes, my new M1 16" is a perfect form factor for me.

    • @nikifallen93
      @nikifallen93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% agreement. I find a screen less than 16” basically unusable for coding. I carried my 17” MBP in my backpack to school on the bus and ran around with it on my back, and so many people were commenting on what a great size it was.

    • @konstantinrusevski6799
      @konstantinrusevski6799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @ryanthewebber
      @ryanthewebber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/Xvbuwfawqcc/w-d-xo.html - granted, I’ve never seen such a spacious aircraft.

  • @jennifergala
    @jennifergala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I travel business and first and the 16 inch M1 Pro MacBook Pro fits perfectly. Also as a video editor the monitor is top for editing HDR content. Cant go back to any other Mac.

  • @triplea9209
    @triplea9209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first MacBook was an M1 MacBook Pro 13 inch. Love the magic keyboard but when I checked out an older one just for fun at Best Buy, it had a butterfly keyboard, and I loved the stability. I also love the touch bar. I'm quite rare.

  • @andrewmorales564
    @andrewmorales564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The new 16’ MacBook only weighs about 6 pounds… it’s still very easy to slip into a bag and actually feels solid this time around. Add the beast like performance and an upgrade in every other category and you have a computer that isn’t made for a tray table, because a 15 inch never was. (The air or iPad is better suited. )
    Plus you don’t need dongles! For 7 years Apple sacrificed inputs for form-factor and now that they finally listened and made this thing all powerful, you revert to intel based on form factor?

    • @dodo19923
      @dodo19923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't get this whole weight argument. They weigh nothing compared to laptops from 10 years ago, are people really that weak nowadays that a few pounds means they're exhausted in a short amount of time or what?
      Speaking of what's new for apple... Personally i think they need to slim down their lineups (pun intended). There are way too many options with different names ect. Keep the new mbp style but do a 12", 14" and 16" and just call them macbook. Get rid of the "air" lineup as the 12" would take its spot anyway. Same with phones. Tbh, if they got rid of all the excess weight (again pun intended) in their lineups and just simplified things plus bring the prices down just a bit to more reasonable levels they'd easily break even or even make profit as their products would be more affordable to more people hence more devices sold. I'd wager people don't upgrade as much as they want to due to everything being confusing about what/which/when/why devices they should get.
      TL:DR - Too many choices for average consumer, simplify and bring more people over from Android... win win for Apple.

    • @movdqa
      @movdqa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dodo19923 Sedentary society. People need to do more deadlifts. I carry my 2021 16 in my old 2007 MBP 17 bag. It's actually swimming in that backpack. You could actually put two 17s in that thing with lots of padding and room for books and other stuff. I used to carry two backpacks in the thing, one for work and one for personal.

  • @sirfabyan
    @sirfabyan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this is the most contradictory video ive ever seen lol. I remember when every one and you too probably were hating on the 15inch mbp because its too thin and not properly cooled and the display could be edge to edge like other laptops had it and now the same one that was so hated is the better one?

  • @cgi2173
    @cgi2173 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a 13 inch Macbook Pro 2019, the butterfly keyboard I prefer over the regular one. Nice and clean typing.

  • @3A-Ti
    @3A-Ti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes Luke agree with you! I’m extremely interested to see a 15 inch M2 MacBook Air with Mini LED pro display 👌🏼

  • @ELMASQUELAMONTA
    @ELMASQUELAMONTA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How many time people really are going to be in an airplane in a month and working in an airplane? So that argument is kind a weak to me. I rather have a big real state when I travel and reach my destination than a small screen and when I reach my destination the screen size will slow me down

  • @bigtuna9398
    @bigtuna9398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love the content but this I can’t agree with. I was just on two 3 hour flights with my 16 inch M1 Pro and had absolutely zero issues. It fit on my tray, I was able to do some work and get through a whole movie. Was it a little tight? Sure. Was I able to use an external mouse? No. But it was completely and totally fine and fit without a problem. I just don’t really understand when content creators make the 16 inch to be some sort of cinderblock. Yes it is slightly heavier but no, it will not completely change how it feels in your bag. It still ultimately feels like you have a laptop in your bag.

  • @eyemsoreel
    @eyemsoreel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really liked the idea and feel of the butterfly keyboard besides the durability and reliability issues

  • @xinaesthetic
    @xinaesthetic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like the other potential difference in these form factors is repairability, it seems like giving a bit more room in the new designs might help with that. Apart from that it does seem odd going to a chunkier design when the new chips make it less necessary for thermal performance.

  • @computer1up
    @computer1up 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I did prefer the Butterfly keyboard in terms of feel. It was sort-of clicky, it was very low travel, and I don't know why, but I thought it felt REALLY good. But the reliability was definitely a deal-breaker.The new Magic Keyboard is definitely a good compromise between the feel of the Butterfly boards and the reliability of a normal switch.

    • @The_MEMEphis
      @The_MEMEphis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤢 those keyboards were trash

    • @Skywalker8510
      @Skywalker8510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think the keyboard may have bred good but the reliability was the thing that killed it

    • @seshpenguin
      @seshpenguin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea I'm on the same boat. The keyboard feels really "premium" If you can say that. But the reliability was what killed it, its just a fundamentally flawed designed.

    • @CherryTv_CUP
      @CherryTv_CUP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@seshpenguin I agree, I've just began rocking the butterfly keyboard and I love the feel of it, just the reliability of the keyboard is what is holding it back especially since apple is taking away the repair programs of older Macs with these keyboards

    • @AgentKSD
      @AgentKSD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im completely with you I have an old function row 2017 macbook pro and I love the feel of the butterfly keyboard but yeah im very very lucky I havent had any issues yet

  • @mahoumatic
    @mahoumatic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is totally fine to keep using and loving the 2019 MacBook Pro, just like keep driving the car you bought 20 years ago. It just makes no sense to choose the 2019 MBP if it is at the same price with the M1 Pro MBP.
    Also, it is far too silly to call the 15” design as a MacBook “Air”.

  • @bottomburp
    @bottomburp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've the exact same 16" M1 Max as you and.... I love it

  • @VadikVadikVadik
    @VadikVadikVadik 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Butterfly keyboard was sooooo satisfying to click and text on it. Still miss it after 2 years using 16" MBP

  • @ekennedy6645
    @ekennedy6645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very interesting video, Luke! As for my thoughts: Speaking only of the form factor, and not the tech specs, I prefer the look of the 2019 version - and the M1 MacBook Air/Pro - over the new, "retro" look. I actually don't understand the apparent fascination with going retro, and I especially HATE the retro look of the new M1 iMacs...they look cheap and toy-like, IMHO, and I would never buy such a cheap-looking desktop to replace my 27" 5K iMac designed by Jony Ive. I was considering getting a MacBook Air when the new, M2 version comes out, but if it looks anything like the renders I've seen - carrying on the retro look - I'll either not get one, or get the M1 version before they're sold out.

    • @neoperol
      @neoperol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The look of the new macs is not just looks is to give enough space for have good cooling solutions. Old MacBook pros thermal throttled with the intel chips because those chips were not design for those thin chasis. Perhaps the M1 would perform good enough but with a bigger chasis they run cooler and less fan speed.

    • @notfunctioning
      @notfunctioning 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 14/16 MacBook Pros are design-wise a harp back to the Titanium PowerBook, which was designed by Jony himself. They went "retro" with this design for no other reason other than the fact that the actual "pros" who were using the prior MacBook Pros absolutely hated the design with their guts because it was a functional disaster. So I feel like the analogy doesn't really work in the context of the 14/16 MacBook Pros. Plus you can always just get a silver version of the 24-inch iMac, that option's still there no matter what config. The colours are there for the ones who really want them. If you haven't already, you should take a look at the new Macs in store, the physical design makes straight intuitive sense once you can feel the products in your hand

    • @ekennedy6645
      @ekennedy6645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As I said in my initial comment, I was ONLY speaking about aesthetics, NOT tech specs, cooling needs, port availability, etc., and, since everyone is entitled to their own opinion about aesthetics, I was expressing mine, that the older MacBooks LOOK better, IN MY OPINION, than the latest versions, essentially agreeing with Luke. And, since Jony Ive was at Apple until 2019, I assume he was, at least partially, if not entirely, responsible for the design of the 2016-2019 MacBooks, showing that his aesthetic sense evolved beyond his 2012 MacBook version - and his earlier original iMac and the "colorful" iBook. As I said, aesthetic sense varies from person to person, and everyone is entitled to their own: some people like the 1957 Dodge, others like the 1975 Corvette, neither opinion is "wrong," they are just an individual's opinion.

  • @nbaprophet100
    @nbaprophet100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I prefer the butterfly keyboard. I loved the tactile feel and the rigid confident click no matter where you touched the keys. I do understand that I am in the rare in camp in that I didn’t have issues with mine but I still wished they fixed the issues rather than move back.

  • @aldorodriguez7310
    @aldorodriguez7310 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the video I’ve been wanting to watch for a while 🎉

  • @auron8488
    @auron8488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve used the both the butterfly versions of 13 and 15 inch Touch Bar laptops, as well as the magic keyboard 13 and 16 inch Touch Bar laptops, not the new 14 and 16 inch pros though. The benefits of the butterfly laptops were that they were thinner, resulting in less sharp edge on the wrist. I noticed the sharp edges more on the magic keyboard models. The other benefits are less light bleed (nice at night), also full size left and right buttons (I would prefer full size up and down keys as well even if the down key extends below the rest of the Keyboard). For typing a lot all day though I prefer the magic keys, and I roll up a shirt to rest my wrists on and avoid the sharp edges. Optimal would be a tapered design with the magic keys. I like the Touch Bar for app shortcuts and customizable.

  • @shubhamsundrani711
    @shubhamsundrani711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A 15 Inch MacBook Air would be the ideal laptop for me.
    I was considering getting the 16 Inch M1 Pro MacBook Pro purely because of the screen size. I don't care much for the performance of the M1 Pro and Max, M1 level performance is good enough for my needs.
    Let's see where Spring/Fall this year takes us, I can afford to wait another year or two.

    • @BreinGames
      @BreinGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m in the same thinking as you. I bought the 16 just for the screen size. Performance is not a consideration. M1 would have been sufficient.

    • @sipanievan8126
      @sipanievan8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Special love content over 18 years old
      NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE
      tricks I do not know
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter
      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
      Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
      Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
      Dene: '' Muzdak ''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
      💗❤️💌💘

    • @jeanjasinczuk7543
      @jeanjasinczuk7543 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree. I would love a 15 inch M1 MacBook air.. A larger screen with similar spec to a Macbook air, not to chunky with good enough performance even if it is not M1Pro/Max level. And of course a more reasonable price then a MacBook pro. On the PC world, one can choose the screen size independent of the performance.

    • @BreinGames
      @BreinGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeanjasinczuk7543 there’s one more thing to consider about air’s. The ports are atrocious. The newer pros excel at port selection. So an air 15 or 16 still might not be appealing.

  • @alliejr
    @alliejr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I owned 2 butterfly keyboard MacBook (not Air, not Pro) ultralights and had zero keyboard issues over 5 years. Obviously the design has problems, but I kept my laptops clean and I learned to properly TOUCH type (high school typing class) so I never hammered on it like I observe millennials doing.

    • @MultiPcExpertGhost
      @MultiPcExpertGhost 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try taking notes all day, eventually you won’t be able to touch type fast enough.

    • @CompMeistR
      @CompMeistR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MultiPcExpertGhost then you do what I do and just plop a mechanical keyboard on the deck and type away

    • @MultiPcExpertGhost
      @MultiPcExpertGhost 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CompMeistR Can’t do that in a lecture room full of people

    • @CompMeistR
      @CompMeistR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MultiPcExpertGhost never stops me

    • @rehmanarshad1848
      @rehmanarshad1848 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a programmer idgaf I hammer away on those suckers, and will not stop if it breaks then it was poorly manufactured simple as that.
      Keyboard travel is part of the typing experience. And those butterfly keyboards lack any meaningful travel so I found myself hitting the same keys because sometimes they wouldn't be detected by a simple tap, and because there's barely any travel hammering away isn't all that satisfying or possible. I'm glad I never had to daily drive those god awful keyboards.

  • @JRomeSr.
    @JRomeSr. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was fun to watch this video AFTER the 15" macbook air came out. Luke had this idea in mind for a very long time!

  • @Coufu
    @Coufu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have wrist problems and the butterfly keyboard is the only keyboard that doesn’t aggravate them. I’ve tried mechanical and ergonomic and nothing worked. The new magic keyboard thankfully has been fine too, but nothing felt as good to my wrists as the butterfly keyboards.

  • @appleintro
    @appleintro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The old design is amazing. Perhaps Apple Silicon would work fine in that smaller form factor with less ventilation issues, but I’m guessing Apple didn’t want to risk more thermal problems & starting with an all-new generation was a good idea.

    • @sipanievan8126
      @sipanievan8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Special love content over 18 years old
      NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE
      tricks I do not know
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter
      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
      Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
      Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
      Dene: '' Muzdak ''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
      💗❤️💌💘

  • @xfinity319
    @xfinity319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    After replacing my 2019 intel 16 inch MacBook Pro, which I kept to the side, I returned my 16 inch M1 Pro MacBook. I returned it since, as a university student, I found I didn't have much use for it and didn't use it any differently than the Intel version. To put it another way, I returned it since I wasn’t using it to its full potential.

    • @sipanievan8126
      @sipanievan8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Special love content over 18 years old
      NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE
      tricks I do not know
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter
      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
      Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
      Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
      Dene: '' Muzdak ''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
      💗❤️💌💘

    • @mrparts
      @mrparts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny. May I ask why you tried to replace a perfectly functional and super fast 2019 mac laptop when you really never needed it? Was it the marketing hype ? TH-camrs overselling it?

    • @xfinity319
      @xfinity319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrparts Tbh with you, it was great percentage of both. I was under the impression that I needed a slightly larger screen and faster laptop, but I soon realized that I didn't use it any differently than I did before and that I had just wasted $3500 CAD on something I already had. So, if you're thinking about buying one of the new MacBooks, think about whether you really need it and what you're going to use it with and for, because, like me, I didn't use it to its full potential, so it was a waste of money.

    • @paulstoakes466
      @paulstoakes466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xfinity319 Exactly, I have had several Macbooks and an old Mac pro (Cheese grater). Providing you can do what you want in reasonable time keep what you have. You will never get back what you paid for the latest cutting edge device. I'm sure people mostly upgrade for bragging rights and be able to tell everyone how fast blender works on the machine and quote how many percent Apple claim improvements over their last incarnation. I'm doing this on a 2009 white plastic macbook after graphic chip failures on my original MBP. Most of the time I am happy using an old Lenovo T420 running linux mint on, but hey... horses of courses and whatever floats your boat and keeps you happy, Stay well .

  • @ziksus3951
    @ziksus3951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video! There are three bad things in MacBook Pro 15 which might be sensitive for users when we jump back to 15 from 16-inch model: the sound (old 15-inch laptops sounds MUCH worse), the keyboard ("Escape" on the touch bar? Brrr....), and the screen bezels (yep, on 15inch they are much thicker than on 16 inch).

  • @crawdaddy1600
    @crawdaddy1600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Y’all said you wanted a chunky laptop and when y’all got one you complain, there is no end

  • @DavidMalcolm
    @DavidMalcolm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    .... yeah this is click bait... yet here I am in the comments giving you engagement... shame on me.

  • @JajaborMusic
    @JajaborMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Old slim design with the power of new M1 max. .. Holy shit.
    That was my first though just after I saw the new macbooks with M1 pro and max processors..

    • @kamdenmcleanmusic
      @kamdenmcleanmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nnnnnn3647 you think apple was wrong to bring back the ports?!?

    • @Grotek
      @Grotek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nnnnnn3647 but thanks to that these devices are all day long on battery. This is what laptop should be. You can always have MBA with M1 if you want smaller laptop. We're not there yet to have the maximum performance in a matchbox sized device.

    • @Grotek
      @Grotek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nnnnnn3647 you can do the same task on M1MBA as on 2019 Intel MBP. But if you want to go increased performance, increased battery and no noise from the fans at the same time then you don't get the smaller device. M1 iPad and M1 MBA (even the M1 MBP) are the devices that provide you answer to what you expected from ARM.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nnnnnn3647 They are still on the same batteries. Can't beat physics. Also I don't see anything surprising in fact, that 2 years newer CPUs are more powerfull, at expense of sick thermals and power consumption....

    • @puckettonline
      @puckettonline 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nnnnnn3647 lol it’s called being giving option. You have a desktop level processor on a tablet… what’s thinner and lighter than that?
      You’re also going to ignore how these don’t overheat at all compare to the intel MBP?

  • @pgreenx
    @pgreenx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know you know but don’t forget about the ports on new laptops and what you need to bring along going back to the 15”

    • @alexwr
      @alexwr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh... I use a 4 port 13inch and I've never had any issues with just using a dongle with charging throughput. You're still only using one port, and I can just leave dongle connected to the charger. At this point in time, I'm just hoping that along with SD cards, cameras will follow suit and simply use a USB-C for transferring photos and video.
      Some people absolutely love the return of the SD card, and fair enough, but if you're a light-mid user, the amount of times that port actually gets used is negligible, and a dongle connected to your power cable is fine.
      HDMI? Same thing, the dongle works fine and the best thing about it is that those ports are then transferrable to any USB-C device, and if those ports break? Well it's a hell of a lot cheaper and more convenient to replace a dongle than it is to send the entire machine back to Apple for them to overcharge on repairs.

  • @eftymateides4468
    @eftymateides4468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been looking to replace my old 13 in MacBook Pro from 2011 and wanted a larger screen. I only use it for light computing, web browsing and streaming so I do not need a powerful M1 Pro or Max. I would buy the new M1 MacBook Air if it had a bigger screen. 15 in would be perfect. I am not too bothered about the mini led display if that helps keep the cost down. Please do it Apple!!

  • @rkbaker
    @rkbaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I bought a fully loaded 27" i9 iMac at the end of last year. I'm positive the M1s will be better, but I need the compatibility for the moment and the horsepower is more than sufficient.

  • @marko2873
    @marko2873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think the new Blender 3.1 alpha has big performance improvements on M1.

  • @rockingupthewrongtre
    @rockingupthewrongtre 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought a t9500 for my 2007 iMac, gonna do some surgery to get that beast up to Catalina. Your videos have been quite inspiring. I also have an M1 MBA, the iMac is gonna be for the Kids

  • @GiancarloCarccamo
    @GiancarloCarccamo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @Evie0133
    @Evie0133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    15" MBP ain't that much smaller than 16" MBP, and it doesn't even fit in airplane tray tables well. So that intro doesn't make much sense. If they made a 15" MacBook Air that's close to the size of something like the XPS 15 9500, that'd be great.

  • @kilotangosierra
    @kilotangosierra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    this is becoming too much like painfully honest techs channel... i love the new macbook, i hate the new macbook, i went back to the old mac, i went back to the m1, i hate all macs, i decided to go back to the m1 max... just hear me out 💩

  • @theataripunk
    @theataripunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, the few times I've used a butterfly keyboard MacBook, I've liked it a lot. It may have been that most of those times were when I was trying out MacBook Pros at Best Buy a few years ago, back when they were elusive and out of my price-range. I also tend to prefer low-profile keys with not a lot of travel, but still with a good amount of tactile feedback (kind of an outcast in that regard, I know). I get that the sheer unreliability of the boards is more than enough to be permanently frustrated with the design, but in terms of pure feel, I definitely wouldn't mind using one as a daily driver.

  • @CashmereSky
    @CashmereSky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I'm right with you. On a 2015 MBP 15" and looking to upgrade, but the new MBP's are prohibitively expensive for what I mainly do... web dev and administrative tasks. I love the 15-16" real estate, but I don't need all that power. I'd love a sub $2K Macbook Air 15"-16" with a 32GB limit instead of 16GB. I think that would be the perfect spot for my needs. Glad others are feeling the same way. If we're lucky Apple will hear us and bring a new machine to market.

  • @mikenyr4life491
    @mikenyr4life491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can see Apple creating a new middle ground with a Macbook line of 13" and 15" using black bezels and being between the air and pro.

  • @pepchristian
    @pepchristian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A thin and light and more affordable M1 16” would be an instant purchase for me

  • @BreinGames
    @BreinGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The new 14 and 16 inch mbp’s are where I started with apple laptops. I’m curious, when older models debuted was there the same amount of hype and build up for them as with the new ones? Or was buzz just meh?

  • @MichaelBordenaro
    @MichaelBordenaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently upgraded from a 2013 15 inch MacBook Pro to a 2019 16 inch and honestly I hardly noticed the difference in size

    • @ifihadfriends437
      @ifihadfriends437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe the macbooks got thinner after 2015 up until the 16 inch came out (which is also still thinner than the newest 16 inch), so the size difference is significantly bigger for Luke.

    • @MichaelBordenaro
      @MichaelBordenaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ifihadfriends437 Yes good point on thickness, but I am referring to screen size. He said it doesn't fit on an airplane try and is harder to travel with. That has not been my experience going from a 15 to 16. My display is same size as the new ones.

    • @ifihadfriends437
      @ifihadfriends437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@MichaelBordenaro Honestly I think the 15 inch is already bit of a pain to travel with. I tend to go carry on only so that 2kg of non-malleable kind of sucks (to the point where I've seriously considered buying a little chromebook for travel.)

    • @MichaelBordenaro
      @MichaelBordenaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ifihadfriends437 Yeah I suppose everyone is different on that. I'm not really a lite traveler so its not a big deal for me.

  • @electrikoptik
    @electrikoptik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm done with super thin laptops. I'd rather have slightly thicker laptop like the M1 pro/max MBP with superior thermals.

    • @sipanievan8126
      @sipanievan8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Special love content over 18 years old
      NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE
      tricks I do not know
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter
      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
      Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
      Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
      Dene: '' Muzdak ''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
      💗❤️💌💘

  • @m1x4r26
    @m1x4r26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To me the design on the 2016-2020 macbook pro looks more luxurious than it is now even though the new gen is quite great 👍

    • @sipanievan8126
      @sipanievan8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Special love content over 18 years old
      NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE
      tricks I do not know
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter
      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
      Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
      Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
      Dene: '' Muzdak ''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
      💗❤️💌💘

  • @nikopol1009
    @nikopol1009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am with you I have a 2017 i7 Macbook pro and I always like it, besides the flaws of the butterfly keyboard that never got fail to me, and when I saw the new MacBook Pro 14 inch I said maybe would go for that but I don't need so much power so I was thinking on getting a Macbook Air M1 and probably will but if apple gives us a 15" I definitely go for that enough power to beat anybody else but with a smaller footprint.

  • @bitkahuna
    @bitkahuna ปีที่แล้ว

    100% agree on that gen MBP - design was/is wonderful. i have a 2016. never had an issue with the butterfly keyboard thankfully. they could simply make a 15" macbook air with m2, and that would be great.

  • @petervarga9230
    @petervarga9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally someone recognise this problem :) For me the new 16" its just feel huge compared the old 15".. As a webdeveloper I dont need a M1 Pro, or Max, I dont care how fast it exports video, but I need the screen size fo coding! simply a M1 would be enough but with a big screen, but in smaller body, which I can easyl carry around wherever I want to work.. if apple would create 15" air, that would be instant get for me..

    • @sipanievan8126
      @sipanievan8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Special love content over 18 years old
      NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE
      tricks I do not know
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter
      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
      Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
      Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
      Dene: '' Muzdak ''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
      💗❤️💌💘

  • @SerPapus
    @SerPapus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Clickbait as videos lmao

  • @marklong6701
    @marklong6701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m still rolling with the MacBook retina 15.4”mid 2012 with Intel i7 16gb ram and nvidia gt650 still good MacBook performs well quite happy with it

  • @wendellkilgore7199
    @wendellkilgore7199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video Luke.. I currently do have the 2020 13 Inch MacBook Pro. I honestly like the old design of MacBook Pro which is why I'm keeping this laptop for sometime. Looking at the newer MacBook Pro's; I'm not really digging the new bulk look what's so ever. I wish and hope apple brings back the previous designs because it's very compact and like you said; it's easy to slip into your laptop bag or backpack.. This gave me some insight. Thanks again Luke. 💯
    -Wendell

    • @berkinerengurman1401
      @berkinerengurman1401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely agree i am using the same device with intel and when i saw newer designs on local shop i ve very disappointed. Wait for the newer designs, by the time our macbooks getting weaker to use so when they changes design we could by newer ones :)

  • @Meanajkarn
    @Meanajkarn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Butterfly keyboard is better for me when I have to type the long essay as the key travel is very short so I don’t feel as fatigued as the new keyboard. I have never encountered the stuck or double key at all in one and a half year (Bought it second hand and the kb was replaced to the one with silicone protection layer). Also I noticed less backlight leaks on the gap between the chassis and the keys. However, it just the keyboard that I liked on my old 2017 13” w/o touchbar. My new m1 pro 14” is far superior in every way

    • @mauricioe.matamoros8993
      @mauricioe.matamoros8993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh what. Buy a mechanical keyboard and ascend to godhood.

    • @Meanajkarn
      @Meanajkarn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mauricioe.matamoros8993 I have a $250 64% custom mech but I still prefer the very low travel.

  • @DerLucavK
    @DerLucavK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I miss the touchbar!! It had that kinda special and premium feel to it and was dynamic and convenient to use. I also liked the butterfly quite a bit. It felt quicker to me but it depends on what you‘re used to.

    • @MrHejnis
      @MrHejnis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Touchbar is great for skipping YT Ads 👍😊

    • @berkinerengurman1401
      @berkinerengurman1401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am using 2020 intel 13 macbook pro about a yeaf and i cant understand people who hates touchbar that much. Its practical easy to use but too ahead for todays standards. It could be better but apple removed whole unit :(((

  • @javakyro
    @javakyro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Luke! I just got my MacBook Pro 2017 today (full spec) and I ask where you get your wallpaper from on your MBP. I love it. Just as much as I love *ALL* your videos!!
    Thanks xx

  • @TheSH1N1GAM1
    @TheSH1N1GAM1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The size has definitely not been a drawback for me. I get the screen size I want and if I need to go anywhere with it, it easily fits in the backpack I was already using, and now I can comfortably use it without a monitor, unlike my 2017 13 inch. After a career change, my backpack has actually lightened up since this laptop is basically all I need. It also makes for an awesome secondary display next to my monitor, which I never bothered to do with the 13 inch because it was so small. Performance is probably overkill for me, but it also won't be struggling in less than 5 years like my 13 inch was with basic tasks.

  • @vintagebytes1776
    @vintagebytes1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tbh, I actually like the butterfly keyboard when it works. It sounds nice, I can easily slide by fingers from key to key, and I really like the slim key travel when pressed. I just really hate how a good amount of my keys either double tap or simply don’t register when tapped. It’s a pain for typing papers or programming. I wish Apple would have been able to truly fix it before dumping it.

  • @Saimon1985
    @Saimon1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Pro of Butterfly keyboard after comparing with 2012 macbook pro: My fingers dont get stuck with the keys when fast typing

  • @9ferdyyy9
    @9ferdyyy9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do like the Butterfly mechanism, at least as long as it works. I have the same 15 inch MBP but which has one and I like typing on it. But the one I really love is my 2015 MacBook 12 inch. Those laptops where just beautifully thin, an Macbook Air is just thick in comparison. Additionally the 12 inch didn’t seem to have the keyboard problems that the 15 inch models have. Towards why I love the Butterfly keyboard: I like having as little key travel as possible and at the same time having a satisfying click once fully pressed. Exactly what the old 12 inch keyboard supplied. Wish they would make a M1 version of it with a few more ports.

  • @anthonymKE
    @anthonymKE ปีที่แล้ว

    With the new 15" Macbook Air just released at WWDC, seems they delivered exactly what you reqested!

  • @jpdemer5
    @jpdemer5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope Apple keeps the Air series as the (relatively) low-cost entry laptop, with the M1 processor, and 13" and 15" options, and saves the Pro/Max/M2 silicon for the more expensive MB Pro line. I think they could make more money by gradually dropping the price, than they could by adding unnecessary performance to a machine that's already way over the top for entry-level users. The market for $400-$500 laptops is massive, and Apple could own it with an M1 Air in that range.

  • @davidmarkham2099
    @davidmarkham2099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Whilst I was initially reluctant to accept a modest trade-in figure from Apple for my 2019 15" MBP, I do not regret for one moment shelling-out for the current 16" M1 Pro MBP.
    The Intel model was - to put it kindly - a buggy, loud, overheating, crash-prone embarrassment of what was supposed to be a premium, high-performance computer. It certainly did not deserve the 'Pro' moniker.
    You said so yourself in your October 15th video - effectively saying that the dirt-cheap prices for Intel models would reflect their undesirability.
    Certain software issues with Catalina and Big Sur didn't help matters either, and Time Machine on Monterey is currently a disgrace.
    Granted, the current 16" model is perhaps not the most versatile unit to incorporate into cabin luggage - certainly not when good quality protective cases - not sleeves - are nowhere to be found. I would argue, however, that the current 16" model is not necessarily meant for that, but rather for working-from-home professionals who don't necessarily see the point in a heavier - and much less portable - desktop.
    I would probably have chosen a 15" model if Apple had offered it with an M1 Pro chip, but I have no problem with the extra weight in the 16" model either.

    • @ucanthavemyname9802
      @ucanthavemyname9802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      With all due respect, I think you missed the point of his video. He even acknowledged that pretty much everything but the form factor was not the greatest, and that the new MacBook Pros are better. What he was saying is that form factor and thinness would be perfect for a new 15” MacBook Air with Apple Silicon. He was pointing out that all of the compromises the Intel Macs had to make to be thin are next to gone with Apple Silicon. So no, he is not saying the 15” MacBook Pro is desirable for power users; he is saying that form factor would be desirable to causal users not needing or wanting the price, thickness, and power of the 16” MacBook Pro.

    • @davidmarkham2099
      @davidmarkham2099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ucanthavemyname9802 Fair enough: The old 15" form-factor was indeed sleek, and it would've made a lot of sense to me, if the base M1 MBP had been offered as a 15" model as well. I don't really know why Apple retired that size.
      In my admittedly uneducated opinion, there are no redeeming features in the Intel model from 2019: Even the sleek form-factor did it no favours with regard to heat-management. Hence my initial post. Cheers for the feedback.

  • @laurentdupret903
    @laurentdupret903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fully agree .... In love with the last Macbook Air of my girl and about the buy a 16" M1Pro basic . It clearly needs a 15" slim design...

  • @dantefekete7617
    @dantefekete7617 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Luke, I am rocking a 2017 MBP with 16Gb ram and 4GB GPU. the CPU is the i7 2.9. I want to say that I love the butterfly keyboard. I feel comfortable typing on it. I also love the touch bar to boot. I get upset, however, when I use my mac mini for editing simply because I'm not too fond of the keyboard.

  • @waynerm002
    @waynerm002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been saying this since the release of the M1 Pro and Max! Apple hasn’t had a lower lever machine with a large screen like on the PC side, which a lot of people would love to have! Let’s be honest, the M1 MacBook Air’s performance is great right now, with fantastic battery life and not everyone needs the full pro spec machine however, having a larger screen in a fan less design with improved performance over the current machine? Heck yeah, we would take that!

  • @geheimen
    @geheimen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video makes no sense.

  • @ripe_apple
    @ripe_apple 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, it is what it is. Good Video!

  • @duckcool0789
    @duckcool0789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    May I ask what wallpaper that is, it looks very good on that display.

  • @star_man
    @star_man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So essentially "Apart from practically everything about it it's a great laptop"? It's a pity we can't see the dislike counter any more.

  • @romcapprotti7477
    @romcapprotti7477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Let me get this straight when the 14 and a 16 inch M ones came out this year everybody including you were raving about them. They didn’t do anything revolutionary with the ports they just gave them back to you and the mag safe. and I’m sure to do that they had to beef it up a little bit make a little thicker. Everybody was impressed with the performance they were happy to have the ports back people loved the display the keyboard the trackpad and a few months later you’ve decided it’s too thick it’s too heavy? I enjoy your videos but I am a little confuse why you didn’t figure this in before you purchased one it seems like the 14 inch would’ve been better for you To use when you’re traveling.I’m glad Apple is making things a little thicker I’m glad the phones are a little thicker so we have more batteries I’m over the thin crap let’s make things a thin as we possibly can I’m past that if it’s a little thicker a little heavier but you get an advantage from it signed me up.like I said I’m just confuse people don’t think things through when they purchase something but that’s your choice you spent the money whatever makes you happy I certainly wouldn’t go backwards in performance

    • @AlejandroLZuvic
      @AlejandroLZuvic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with you but please use some punctuation between sentences.

    • @romcapprotti7477
      @romcapprotti7477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlejandroLZuvic Apparently didn’t stop you from understanding when I was saying seeing you agree to it I love the grammar police but you have a blessed day ……,,,,,,?????;;;;…. There you go

    • @AlejandroLZuvic
      @AlejandroLZuvic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@romcapprotti7477 it’s a little piece of advice, calm down.

    • @mizshellytee
      @mizshellytee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're talking to a guy who spent five figures on *FOUR* M1 Pro/Max MBPs for comparison and benchmarking.

    • @romcapprotti7477
      @romcapprotti7477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mizshellytee I’m well aware of that but thank you for reminding me

  • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
    @JohnSmith-pn2vl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent idea

  • @eliatasti06yt
    @eliatasti06yt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it just me or i imagined the song "i kissed a girl " remixed in "i went back to intel and i liked it"? LOOOL

  • @alexc06
    @alexc06 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My friend loves the butterfly keyboard… he is no longer my friend after he told me that

  • @hworshipInstrumentals
    @hworshipInstrumentals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow to keep making content with no new products = this videio😂 next weeks video will be “ Why I’m back to the m1 macs”

  • @haze9569
    @haze9569 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Today the 2019 i9 16in MacBook Pro is still a beast u can game 1080 60 and it's great for music production

  • @Ryan_Revier
    @Ryan_Revier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since I’m owning the Mid-2010 MacBook, it’s quite smooth and didn’t had any problems even running on Runescape was pretty awesome..and won’t get further upgrades since it has been to default MacOS High Sierra.

  • @vladverdes8313
    @vladverdes8313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're running out of video ideas Luke, we can see that! No one will choose intel over M1..only people who need specific x86 apps. End of the debate, have a nice day!

  • @sgeggbub1008
    @sgeggbub1008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How small are your seats in aeroplanes in america? Even in the cheapest flight on qantas in australia you can definitely fit the 16inch on the tray

  • @rodrigo4379
    @rodrigo4379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfortunately, after using my macbook pro 13 inch base model from 2019 for two years and one month the screen has a black line on it for a couple of months, the keyboard is not as clicky as it was new and i have a stuck key... Thank god i bought one more year of warranty.
    It didn’t aged like i thought. But never crashed on me and always done the work its supossed to do.

  • @hughhepker4897
    @hughhepker4897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There’s so many other aspects like ML , encoders etc pure grunt isn’t the only aspect . Good Luck with your new heater