New Marlin 1895 Trapper vs 1895 SBL - Two Great New 45-70 Lever Guns From Ruger

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  • Finally got my hands on a new Marlin 1895! The Trapper. And Clint and I are going to give close-ups and shoot both the Trapper and the SBL. Lots of details and lots of shooting. Enjoy!
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  • @-o-The-Duke-o-
    @-o-The-Duke-o- ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I'm really glad Ruger stepped in and saved Marlin. They really seem to be bringing back quality and pouring all they can into them. Thank you Ruger!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Amen!

    • @brunomeier1089
      @brunomeier1089 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      After I found out that Ruger is making the new Marlin SBL, I ordered a rifle. Unfortunately, I am still waiting for it to find its way to Switzerland.

    • @warmachinegaming-zf2tn
      @warmachinegaming-zf2tn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have the Remington made Marlin SBL. I've had it for almost a decade and I've never had an issue.

    • @kerrybarnard1485
      @kerrybarnard1485 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've become a lever guy myself, starting w/2 Rossi 92s, but hope to one day have the $$$ to step up to one of the new Ruger built Marlins. Ruger is very savvy, the AR malaise has made lever guns really sought after and they know this! Good investment on their part and for the shooting community.

    • @Johanthegnarler
      @Johanthegnarler ปีที่แล้ว

      Who's gonna save Ruger though? Build quality is still a little meh, but I still want this rifle.

  • @andrewbayram765
    @andrewbayram765 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm in the UK. I'm putting in for a variance on my firearms licence for a 45-70. I saw one of these Marlins at a gun show receently and was quite taken by it. I have a Miroku 1874 winchester in 357. I also haver a 1916 SMLE IN 303 and another Lee Enfiled in 308. I enjoy the lever action immensely, so does my son. I'm enjoying the shooting just by eye (iron sights) more then scoped and it suits the range I go to. These videoss are immensely useful so a big thanks from over here in the UK. 👍👍

  • @Leverguns50
    @Leverguns50 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    That was a really cool comparison between two really fine lever actions, good to see that Ruger did something good with them

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks! What a hoot to shoot two great guns like that!

    • @wilmamcdermott3065
      @wilmamcdermott3065 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a sbl and a guide gun along with my old one i bought in 1990 and a 26inch cowboy gun they all shoot accuratly for remlins. My jm always was accurat

  • @seanfrank4158
    @seanfrank4158 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'd prefer the matte finish over the gloss but both are beautiful rifles. I'd be happy with either one.

  • @richardelliott9511
    @richardelliott9511 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the show! I have a 95 Cowboy II and a 94 in 44mag both with 24" barrels. I have always been interested in the relative power between the two. Now more than ever, with partial thanks to you, since the rounds taylored for 44mag rifles have come on the market. Love what you do!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! You are the second comment to mention the 45-70 and 44 mag. I think I need to make a vid! 😉

    • @ronnieskaggs8148
      @ronnieskaggs8148 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an 1895 Marlin 4570 and a Henry big boy 44 magnum. Love them both the 44 magnum ammo from Federal hammer down is 270 grain bullet and 1715 FPS this is close to the 4570 ballistics. The Henry has a smooth action and holds 10 + 1. The Marlin 1895 4570 holds only 4 + 1 and kicks harder but the ammo variation is very wide from about 300 grain bullets at 1300 FPS to 500+ that can only be fired from certain rifles. Both are excellent rifles.

  • @tedpfenninger4972
    @tedpfenninger4972 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks George! Love your videos. I'm a blued steel and walnut guy and I like some weight with a rifle as big as a 45-70. Never the less, you don't have to carry one very far to appreciate a light, short rifle. It's great that al sorts of guns are available!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your comment Ted. As much as I love my Winchester 1886 I would hate to have to carry that very far. But then again our soldiers during World War II carried an M1 Garand all day every day and it weighed about the same.

  • @jamesellsworth9673
    @jamesellsworth9673 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Marlin Trapper seems to be the better 'brush gun' due to its shorter barrel. I LIKE the idea of fitting a suppressor, although I suspect game animals will still detect where the danger might be.

  • @johngorman4052
    @johngorman4052 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you guys for the comparison between those two Marlin rifles. I'm so glad Ruger took up the brand and the fit and finish is certainly worthy of the Marlin name, Ruger really has stepped up to the challenge. The .45-70 Govt. cartridge smacks the butt hard into the shoulder, not for the faint of heart!!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome. It was a fun project to do. And yes with high velocity loads those little guns are not for the faint of heart.

  • @comiketiger
    @comiketiger ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great guns. Thanks for sharing. They look to be getting made right, now! 👍👍👍🙂🙂

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. I think they have got this planned out well.

  • @theleveractionhunter
    @theleveractionhunter ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video George! I had an awesome time shooting and filming with you. I can’t wait to do “round two” with the 1895’s suppressed!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Clint. It was great to shoot content with you. Sorry it's taking me so long to get through the comments but you know we were busy this weekend at the event. As you can tell from the comments a lot of folks are looking for chronograph data and other things so a follow-up is a must!

  • @waynebowman2315
    @waynebowman2315 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video on my absolute favorite style guns and my favorite caliber, thanx for posting

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome. It was a great treat to get to shoot these two great guns!

  • @1895gunner
    @1895gunner ปีที่แล้ว +4

    George, well done as usual. I got to the range with my new trapper today and experienced a problem which I shot a note off immediately to the team back at Ruger - waiting for a reply. Glad to see yours working so well! I'm not discouraged, and I love my SBL. I'm sure we'll get this Trapper tuned up shortly!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Scott. I met with the Ruger/Marlin team today at the En-are-ay event. Even spoke with Mr. Kiloy for 10 or 15 minutes. Great people, all!

    • @ChuckTruitt
      @ChuckTruitt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TargetSuite Ha, "En-are-ay event," it's a shame it has to be like that!!! They haven't outlawed cars because of drunk drivers... yet.

    • @davidchrist428
      @davidchrist428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What was the problem? It's not a secret.......do tell.....

  • @PatRMG
    @PatRMG ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Interested in seeing the velocity difference between the two. That fireball coming from the Trapper might be telling.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yes Pat, I think it's going to be a significant sacrifice in velocity to gain the handiness of the trapper. But at the end of the day a heavy bullet traveling a couple of hundred feet per second slower is still going to go through seven or eight zombies😄

    • @trumpie5399
      @trumpie5399 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      On my handloads in the 20” Guide Gun
      With 350gr Speer @ 2000 fps same load in Trapper 1750 fps. The Trapper sure makes a good canoe rifle for moose hunting.

  • @scottsever7656
    @scottsever7656 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video
    It was down to earth, and covered all the bases

  • @lacrossed55
    @lacrossed55 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video. This has helped me decide which gun I can't get.

  • @Jhollywood3698
    @Jhollywood3698 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So glad ruger stepped in and seem to be bringing quality back to Marlin , Both of these are excellent rifles
    Great video

  • @polymath5119
    @polymath5119 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for showing these George. We have a late production Remlin Trapper that's well made, but the idea of having a Ruger-made Marlin is very appealing. Hopefully they eventually produce the 39a.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your comment, I talked to the product manager at the NRA event here in Houston last weekend and discussed, among other things, the 39a. They are talking about it but just don't know what kind of response they would get for what would certainly be an expensive 22 lever gun. I think it would sell like crazy, but what do I know😉

    • @trumpie5399
      @trumpie5399 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ruger 1895 priced above what most can afford. Excellent quality but overpriced.

    • @johnconway8492
      @johnconway8492 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always wanted to see a stainless 39a. Actually , a stainless laminated 39a with 16 inch barrel would be sweet. And let’s not forget a loop lever. It would be so cool and actually cost less to manufacture than a blue steel model.And how about that package in .17M2 or 17HMR!

  • @glawtonmoore
    @glawtonmoore 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with the pairing! It’s important to bridge generations! I’m supporting your channel! Oh yeah! The gun talk hit all the right points!

  • @kygreenskeeper8326
    @kygreenskeeper8326 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely gotta have one of these... Best looking lever action I have ever seen..

  • @Tex_I_Can
    @Tex_I_Can ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome video! It's great to see Ruger really beginning to get these out the door. If I had to choose it would be the 16" barrel with the satin finish. I'm anxiously waiting for the pistol calibers.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm with you. I love these guns, but I'm really just biding my time until the 1894s roll out.

    • @johnandlorna
      @johnandlorna ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you have any idea when the new Ruger made ones will be in 44?

    • @chipsterb4946
      @chipsterb4946 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnandlorna “soon” tm
      Just kidding - haven’t heard anything but the 1894 in 44 Magnum can’t come fast enough. I have an older, pre-cross bolt safety 1894 in that chambering and love it. So handy, so versatile.

    • @woofie8647
      @woofie8647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the 1894 CSBL .357 Magnum they released a couple of years ago. I love it. Looks just like these.

  • @OGsDangerShow
    @OGsDangerShow ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great video, George. Excellent job. I have the 1895 SBL but now I’m thinking I might need to add that Trapper because I have more money than brains. Stay safe down there. -OG

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks OG! My son and I just left the NRA show and had to run the gauntlet of protesters. But we're safe now😄

  • @brianklamer3328
    @brianklamer3328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The SBL will be my go to when purchasing a 45-70. I lie the rail along with the peep sight, would be perfect for a fixed 2 or 4 power scope.
    Thanks for another great video!

  • @stevem.potvin3231
    @stevem.potvin3231 ปีที่แล้ว

    I happen to have number 140 of 500 ever made JM Marlin Stamped 1895SDG "Special Davidson Guide" limited edition rifles that has yet to be fired. I keep thinking I'm going to take it out and shoot it some day but it is such a beautiful firearm and being a collectors limited edition rifle I just haven't been able to bring myself to fire it. It is all original and in 100% mint condition. A real beauty. And being an original JM Marlin you just aren't going to find one of these very easily. The last time I've seen one of the other of the 500 built it was missing some of the original parts and the wood was in terrible condition. I've had a couple museums ask if I would consider selling but I've yet to decide. It's such a rare firearm that I can't decide which way to go. But those 2 you have in this video are pretty darn nice. It's great to see that Ruger stayed true to their dedication of quality and brought back some really nice looking firearms. Remington drove the Marlin name into the ground. They took what was a real work of art and ruined the 1895. Thank you Ruger for resurrecting this great firearm. If you would like a few pictures of my 1895SDG just let me know. Great video and very nice 1895's.

  • @atomross13
    @atomross13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would get both! Both look great!

  • @kennethhowell1272
    @kennethhowell1272 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Be interesting to see a comparison between a Remington Marlin and the new Ruger Marlins. For a hunting application, the matte finish would be much better.
    Years ago I owned a JM Marlin 95, which had a 22" Micro-groove round barrel and a straight grip stock. The gun was as smooth as glass and I still miss that gun.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kenneth I plan to do that very comparison. Just need to get my hand on a late model Remington made Marlin.

  • @TheCowboyfromhell87
    @TheCowboyfromhell87 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great comparison! I got the new SBL already and love it, but that trapper is also calling to me. If it had a straight stock and smaller lever I'd definitely be actively searching for one. Can't wait to see what other modesl they come out with next.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm looking forward to a standard lever design as well. I understand the demand is there for the big loop lovers but that is not my first choice by far.

    • @dave-d-grunt
      @dave-d-grunt ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the straight stock also. The standard lever with a pars cord wrap is perfect. 1895GG

  • @nardvt89
    @nardvt89 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice job guys. I enjoyed the review.

  • @joebarrett5310
    @joebarrett5310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video George and Clint. Would love to see you slide a Henry brass side gate 45-70 into a comparison with these two. That Trapper looks very nice, as did the SBL.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the suggestion. Maybe we can work that in a future video.

  • @paulcupach8196
    @paulcupach8196 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You must be reading my mind d. I was looking for a video just like this! Well Done!

  • @lonnieeichele2498
    @lonnieeichele2498 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice comparison and like others would be interested to see velocity differences. I've got 2 Marlin levers a Cowboy 45-70 with octagon barrel. I love it. The other is a 336 338 Hornady Express. I haven't really got that dialed in. Now it's gonna be a challenge. Hornady doesn't sound like they'll be making any Flex-tip .338 any time soon. I did find dies and a Nosler 200 grain bullet. Now the quest for a proper powder. Keep up the good work George!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I will be breaking out the Labradar for the next video and we will compare velocity between these two and a longer Barrel 45-70. Thanks for watching and thanks for your comment!

  • @henryherman9113
    @henryherman9113 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both nice levers...I have the 1895 trapper in the 45/70 Bought it in 2018 the last of the marlins. It is awsome with no issues what so ever.A big fan of the 45/70

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it was good to see the Remington folks work out the kinls from those horrible early years. I wouldn't be concerned at all with buying one of those late model "Remlins"

  • @frankwright5528
    @frankwright5528 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Congrats on another excellent presentation of interesting hardware that hasn't yet made it to the corner hardware. I'm impressed that Ruger actually seems to have improved an American standard. (How can something like that occur today?! Recently (ok, the last forty years or so) I have come to appreciate levers, especially Marlins, though my newest is from the 80s. (I even house and feed two with those ridiculous 'critical shot interruptor' buttons.) No stainless yet, but yours are very appealing, indeed. That high polish may be the best I've seen on commercial production. Criticisms: Absence (for now?) of traditional longer tube options, and especially being force fed those 'Big Loops'. Pure senseless Hollywood and a stain on the eschutcheon of The Great John Wayne! Who twirl-cocks their levergun from horseback!? The best that can be said is that, with training, they can be manipulated almost as well as the system they replaced. (Rant endeth.)
    I'll add my request for a chrono comparison, plus some accuracy info. Again, Sir, you have a great channel! We appreciate your efforts.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I'm not a big fan of big loops either!

  • @Prepare2Survive
    @Prepare2Survive ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I can't wait for the 357 magnum to come out.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen! The 1894s can't come soon enough!

    • @blindjoe8300
      @blindjoe8300 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t thisn shoot bigr

    • @Prepare2Survive
      @Prepare2Survive ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blindjoe8300 Yes, it shoots bigger and heavier projectiles, but I handload my own ammo and 357 mag brass is 50 times easier to find for free at my local shooting ranges on the ground than 45-70 brass.

  • @beep-beep
    @beep-beep ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s neat to see this old cartridge come back around into the spotlight. Creeping up on 200 years old now, but still has a lot of value for big game hunting even today. It’s terminal ballistics are interesting, it’s a usually a very hot load but the size and flattened shape of the round creates a sort of “rainbow arc”, in which it rises at a certain distance and falls short of other later cartridges like 30-06 and .308. But it packs an incredible punch of around 3000lbs generally, and is very easy to reload due to its lack of a bottleneck. I’d been reading on it for years, so it’s neat to see it getting recognition. If I could pony up the cash, I’d have a Henry… but there aren’t many “budget options” around for a good old fashioned lever-action. They won the west!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It has had an amazing Resurgence over the last decade or two. And if you keep your mileage short it's a very capable hunting cartridge . . . as you point out it packs a lot of punch!

  • @michaelparker3105
    @michaelparker3105 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi guys, not a bad review and thank you for the time invested to share your thoughts. What would have been nice finish to this vid is to see a precision shot grouping difference between the two barrel lengths. They are already both short carbines, however would the three inch barrel length lead to better projectile accuracy over the longer distances? I know none of these are long range rifles but

  • @CHenry1951
    @CHenry1951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing, I better start saving !!!!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lots more models coming from Marlin. It's just going to take time.

  • @Mj-CWO4
    @Mj-CWO4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I now have the Trapper model and love it, fits me perfectly. It would have been nice to get actual velocity readings.

  • @jeffreylunsford1867
    @jeffreylunsford1867 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely a great video thanks 👍

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you sir! I really appreciate that!

  • @rooster3019
    @rooster3019 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I see someone has been working on their lever action shooting technique;. Kept the butt plate shouldered. I notice you kept your eyes down range on the target, your cheek welded to the stock between shots, and you even managed to keep your trigger hand thumb to the side for quicker action (you had to think about that last one). Thumb over the tang is probably more secure, like your guest did, but thumb to the side is quicker. Choose yer poison ;-) Next, I sure hope Ruger considers a more traditional model of this rifle; solid figured walnut with rich blued finish, octogon LLLLOOOOOONNNNNGGG barrel. And that they keep the Skinner sights. Thanks for the great video.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! I think we have the same wishlist!

    • @chipsterb4946
      @chipsterb4946 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rooster +1,000 on a 22-26 inch barrel, full or half octagon, full length magazine tube, blued with walnut furniture. Please Ruger .. PLEASE!

  • @T410ce
    @T410ce หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought one of the last 1895 SBL’s made by Remlin, from Cabela’s. It is a terrific rifle with zero defects and shot @ 1.75” group @ 50 yards out of the box. The only thing I wished it had was a fiber optic front sight.

  • @texasfarmer3367
    @texasfarmer3367 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for the video, George. I’m hoping to see a Marlin 1894 in .357 coming soon.

    • @Tex_I_Can
      @Tex_I_Can ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes please!? I wouldn't mind one in 44 magnum as well.

    • @ricktaylor5744
      @ricktaylor5744 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm quite sure that they would out sell even the great 45-70 . The pistol caliber carbine is a great hunting rifle. Both the.357 & the 44 mag. Out to 75 yard's or so they're dandy for deer. And more fun to shoot on the range .

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Texas Farmer I'm looking forward to the pistol calibers as well. Thanks for your comment!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @New Tex_I_Can that has always been number one on my list from the new Marlins.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think you are right. But I know the square bolt 1894 is more difficult to manufacturer. So it made sense for them to start with the 1895 / 336 round Bolt models.

  • @grumman7772
    @grumman7772 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Review thank you for this video I learn more about this Rifle 😊

  • @wayneg5697
    @wayneg5697 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yours is one of my favorite gun channels. Informative with zero ego. I wonder if you like the Marlin over the Henry X-model?

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Henry X model was a quality firearm. And I would put it on par, for this style of gun, with the SBL or Trapper. But I have always been a Marlin fan and all things being equal, continue to lean that way😉

  • @gabbyhayes1568
    @gabbyhayes1568 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Man, that’d be a tough choice. I like the Trapper’s satin finish better, but I think I’d opt for the SBL’s longer barrel and capacity.

    • @richardross4996
      @richardross4996 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I just got the trapper, finish is great, no glare. Shoots amazing

    • @gabbyhayes1568
      @gabbyhayes1568 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@richardross4996 I have a “JM” Marlin Cowboy in 45-70 I bought new in the early 2000’s for $600. The price of these new ones is just insane to me.

  • @InGratitudeIam
    @InGratitudeIam ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for saving me the time, money and neck ache! What about the thickness of the forends? I know the Trapper's is thinner than the previous Remlin. I believe that rear sight is licensed from Ashley, but I could be mistaken.
    For hunting, some jurisdictions might have a minimum barrel length requirement of 18". As to ballistics, the "rule of thumb" is about 50fps/inch. Buffalo Bore seems to alter that universe. It will be interesting to see if you have any money left (and functioning nerve endings) to do some chronograph tests.
    Thanks for taking the time!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to save you the misery! Both these guns have the thinner for ends and I like them. And yes I do have some Buffalo Bore ammo and plans to do chronograph work. Clint and I have been talkin about when we can get together for that.

  • @seresamgala8125
    @seresamgala8125 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great material!

  • @cmonsterz
    @cmonsterz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video of two fine new leverguns!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank! They are great guns.

  • @remingtonshelton4905
    @remingtonshelton4905 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got the 1895 sbl, was skeptical spending so much on a gun, but I'm glad I did! It's a gem in my opinion.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gem is right! All of the new Marlin lever guns are fantastic but that sbl is in a league of its own.

  • @fairlylocal7189
    @fairlylocal7189 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have a 1895 sbl that I bought 7-8 years ago while Remington owned marlin, the fit and finish are perfect I’ve never had a single problem with the gun at all.

  • @johnshoureas1629
    @johnshoureas1629 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. I like the dark laminations and satin stainless.

  • @TheJonnieredeyez
    @TheJonnieredeyez ปีที่แล้ว

    You were correct Sir. This video made this old man smile.

  • @Capt_McNugget
    @Capt_McNugget ปีที่แล้ว

    Got myself a 1985 black knight.. Can't wait to try her out

  • @richardruiz6972
    @richardruiz6972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video very nice rifles.... wow that is a big kick....im going to check to see what other calibers are available

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      That is only available in 4570. But there are some mild recoiling loads out there. Hornady has a new subsonic round that is very pleasant to shoot and yet still very powerful.

  • @phillipmarlow5267
    @phillipmarlow5267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both truly beautiful rifles. I've found myself with 3 45-70's now. 1 1865 and 2 Henry's. I'm just waiting for the Marlin 444 dark for my last purchase.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm waiting on the 444 also. I bought dies and Brass six months ago in anticipation😄

    • @phillipmarlow5267
      @phillipmarlow5267 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TargetSuite LOL, I bought a new Hornady Progressive as well. I've already got a 444 and have been reloading for it for a while. Been using an old Lyman Hollywood Turret press my dad and I used from back in the early 70's. The Henry 45-70 Dark is a really well made rifle and as it tends to happen, is my favorite now.

  • @thetraveler5798
    @thetraveler5798 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love them LeverGuns ..!
    👍🌟👍

  • @srtwentydet
    @srtwentydet ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish they had chronographed the same round through each rifle to see the real velocity difference. Maybe do a video with chronograph results between the two and penetration tests between the two to see if the barrel length is worth it or not.

  • @hutehund9519
    @hutehund9519 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh yeah!!! More with this one please.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll be doing some accuracy work with the Trapper this week. Hope to post that on Friday.

  • @joemorganeatmyshortschannel
    @joemorganeatmyshortschannel ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i like lever actions for me when i get to that point id like a rifle length tube and rifle length barrel for a 15 round capacity in 357/38 or in 44 mag or something

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think as time goes by, Marlin is going to broaden their offering to include the very type of rifle you're referring to. My hope, at least. Thanks for watching, and thanks for your comment!

  • @dittman2564
    @dittman2564 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skinner calls that front site with the white line, that is on the Trapper, the "Bear Buster".
    I purchased one for my Henry X-Model 45-70 gov't.

  • @twp616
    @twp616 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I have always favored longer barrels, for the ballistic advantage and increased round capacity. Personal choice

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mine too. My purchase of the Trapper was just to give you guys a look at what Marlin has available now. I hope to continue to cover all the new models for a while as the iconic brand rises from the ashes.

    • @dave-d-grunt
      @dave-d-grunt ปีที่แล้ว

      Early 2000’s GG is 4 + 1. Later they extended the tube to 5 + 1. JM Marlin

  • @Simon-hf3lw
    @Simon-hf3lw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a 100% correct I almost cried when I see them rifles Beautiful 👍 ❤️

  • @jimilee8979
    @jimilee8979 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Guys........... yay for Ruger

  • @fivex4756
    @fivex4756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am looking forward to comparing that with the brake to the "guide gun" with comp ports that marlin made that I have. i am guessing that the concussion would be greater from comp ports under that covered range bench

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      I had not shot under a steel covered roof like that for a decade or more. And With or without the Comet Muzzle brake i gound that report just darned unpleasant. I was glad to have the opportunity to shoot with Clint but now can't wait to get back to the farm.

  • @langleyj8199
    @langleyj8199 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I owned both of Marlin versions. I kept the SBL. Only because I like the longer barrel. Both are great. Looking forward to seeing the Ruger versions. They look great.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So far so good. And I watched a lengthy video that showed some of their factory production. They definitely have quality control in place. So I am confident that these rifles are representative of the kind of quality we'll see in the future.

    • @bx7993
      @bx7993 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did the exact same , I had trapper and sbl , sold trapper .
      My reasons being
      Trapper was harder to shoot way too much kick and not acurate at all for my liking .
      Sbl had more acuracy and the extra 3 inches just gave it a better feel and balance to the rifle . And also nice to get the extra velocity .
      That being said the 45-70 is not a super accurate cartridge anyhow.

  • @CanadaTrapper1
    @CanadaTrapper1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The exact scenario I just ran into. Local dealer had both models in stock. I went with the trapper. Wish i could afford both :D

  • @derrickedwardsu430
    @derrickedwardsu430 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can also unload the rugers through the load gate by pushing it in .

  • @patrickkoh1718
    @patrickkoh1718 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just ordered my sbl from bass pro . i cant wait .!!

  • @saigudbai
    @saigudbai ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Probably the Trapper for the shorter barrel. Since I'd just be using it for a short range rifle, maybe Grizz protection. Put a short rail on it and a reflex site possibly.

  • @deangerger8190
    @deangerger8190 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful guns like both of them

  • @Lowballinoutdoorz
    @Lowballinoutdoorz ปีที่แล้ว

    First time here.. loved this video!

  • @MattH-wg7ou
    @MattH-wg7ou ปีที่แล้ว

    I NEED this SBL!!

  • @MTwoodsrunnerPrimitiveSkill
    @MTwoodsrunnerPrimitiveSkill ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice !...though I don't know about them oversized loops and muzzle break...especially at a range...LOL...thanks for sharing!...woods

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Between you and me and the fence post, I'm not a fan of the big Loops at all. But that is the style that is in demand, at least for now. I think I mentioned in another comment that I had never worn gloves too thick to fit inside a standard lever profile.

  • @theblitz6838
    @theblitz6838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice rifles, I'm not a fan of peep sights so the SBL would be the obvious choice for me.
    Rugger outdid themselves with those two, absolute beauties.

  • @PracticalAccuracy
    @PracticalAccuracy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review and good video format.👍

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Andy! It sure was different filming with someone else, but I think it went pretty well. We plan to do at least one or two more videos together. Maybe more, who knows?

  • @danoneill2846
    @danoneill2846 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very Nice !!

  • @foilist1
    @foilist1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow, I like them both. But I think I might take the SBL simply b/c it’s longer and can load one more cartridge.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching. It's kind of a toss-up but since I bought the Trapper I'm going to love it😉

    • @jpcquadnet
      @jpcquadnet 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TargetSuite Me too

  • @billbright1755
    @billbright1755 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The venerable .45/70 government chambering. A wide variety of projectiles and propellent choices available to the savvy hand loader and marksman.
    The Marlin 95 platform a supreme firearm and in the hands of an expert rifleman a very capable big game powerhouse.
    Mine is a 1972 issue and with its micro grove rifling has excellent accuracy at all practical ranges.
    Lever guns hone in from action cycle use and my Marlin operates like on roller bearings after fifty years use.

  • @boballen8307
    @boballen8307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i bought the Trapper and love it so much fun to shoot

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a ton of fun. Thanks for your comment!

  • @mitchellmiller7717
    @mitchellmiller7717 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's always amazed me that the world thinks that big loop on the lever is the better way to go. To many people have seen the rifleman. But the fact is the normal lever is hands down the best and most efficient way to go. It showed All over your video!!!! And you can say all day - I just have to get used to it.
    They are trash but those of us that know better are now stuck in a world of D. A.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll never get used to a big loop, because like you I don't think they are functional. But they certainly are in style and there's no getting around that.

    • @mitchellmiller7717
      @mitchellmiller7717 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TargetSuite Styles come and go like the wind. The tried and true withstand the lack of intelligence that seems to be seeping into each new generation these day's. Do they actually think they are the first to think about a bigger loop?? I don't know for a fact but I am sure it was looked at before and set to the side because the lack of functionality .

    • @belliott538
      @belliott538 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see numerous “Big Loop” replacement parts for the Ruger/Marlin 1895. Reckon anyone will come out with a Standard Size Loop replacement?

  • @Mr_Mojo_Risin
    @Mr_Mojo_Risin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ruger did a fantastic job bringing back what Remington destroyed. Sadly Marlin was driven to sell but thank God for Ruger. Great video!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Yes without Ruger I'm afraid the Marlin brand would have disappeared.

  • @brianlee6849
    @brianlee6849 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the darker laminate on the trapper but I would choose the SBL but it's a close decision both are great 👍. It would be interesting to see velocity difference? Thank you

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clint and I are talking about a follow-up video now with velocity comparisons. I suspect there is going to be a substantial difference.

    • @brianlee6849
      @brianlee6849 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TargetSuite Yes I think you are right especially depending on the powder used. If you do the video include your 86 with it's longer barrel for fun. Have you done any accuracy test yet? I've heard these Ruger made marlins are very accurate one review claimed a average of 1.25 over a wide range of ammo and groups. I recently watched a Ruger/Marlin factory tour and Ruger really seems to have brought back Marlin to a whole nother level. Thank you 👍

  • @royseifert3078
    @royseifert3078 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If only I could find $1,200 I'd have one of the SBL models. My birthday is this Sunday, maybe my wife will be good to me! Nice to see a guest on your channel, George.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for the comment, Roy. It was fun working with Clint. He's got a ton of love for traditional leverguns.

  • @jpcquadnet
    @jpcquadnet 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got to get both

  • @woodworm3615
    @woodworm3615 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What brand Muzzle Break was that?
    I picked up the SBL. Love lever actions. Simple to clean and use. Thanks guys. Weather looked perfect there for plinking.

  • @hettro-cv6082
    @hettro-cv6082 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting ! I was hoping the quality was there. Looks like it is.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. These are nice guns. Probably still a few little kinks to work out but Ruger is extremely sensitive about getting it right.

  • @semtech30
    @semtech30 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You both missed shift's because of those large loop leavers. Meant for wearing gloves to fill the gap. I don't like shooting with gloves so stuck with the standard lever. I also chose the 20 in. barrel to get a full revolution on the bullet before it leaves the barrel. It may benefit accuracy. Lot's of hitting power in these guns for sure. Thanks for the demo.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are welcome. Thanks for your comment. And to be sure I do not like these large loops. People talk about needing them for wearing gloves and I say bunk! Maybe for Arctic mittens😉

    • @JosephTMeiroseIV
      @JosephTMeiroseIV หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TargetSuite The large loop is perfect for, and meant, for Alaska climate as self defense weapon. Hardly enough time to counter a Grizzly charge already but to remove heavy gloves first would be impossible. Right weapon for the right application.

  • @OrieCipollaro
    @OrieCipollaro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s a Big damn bullet!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it is. But I look at it this way. As I become more fumble fingered with age the 45-70 is easier to handle😄

  • @involvementinc7748
    @involvementinc7748 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would have liked to see the chronograph difference between the two barrel lengths. That might be a real deciding factor...

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you will email me at targetsuite@gmail.com I'll share the Excel spreadsheet data with you.

    • @exodortch
      @exodortch ปีที่แล้ว

      Faster Powder selection will make up for any velocity loss in the shorter barrel.

  • @Giorgi-bp6vr
    @Giorgi-bp6vr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, if you could tell me how far the 45-70 cartridge has an effect and what rifle can be used to hunt a bear? Or a wolf?

  • @TheWVgoodguy22
    @TheWVgoodguy22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the satin finish on the Trapper model more than the polished one of the SBL especially for hunting. Plus the clean top versus the pic rail on the SBL.
    Truthfully I would be extremely happy to have either one. They’re one of my dream guns. My Dad and youngest brother have Marlin 336 in 30/30 so I want a larger caliber in my lever gun, plus a straight wall cartridge to use in my neighbor state of Ohio and others.
    My thoughts are that if one is going to use a scope or optic then SBL. Someone who prefers the open sight traditional use and look of a lever gun then Trapper. But I might think of going open sight trapper with a suppressor on the 16 in barrel. The SBL I would be tempted to use a low power scope and the muzzle brake that you have there or possibly suppressor. That 19 in barrel is still a great size for a can.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm with you, but the short barrel allows a lot more recoil to reach the shoulder😎

    • @TheWVgoodguy22
      @TheWVgoodguy22 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TargetSuite yes it definitely does. I saw that you just made a video about that. A suppressor and it’s weight and other capabilities will reduce that recoil and muzzle flip.
      I currently can’t afford a suppressor so I would definitely run the muzzle brake on the trapper too. Hopefully they make a satin finish to match. Just wear hearing protection, even when hunting. I have a rifle with a muzzle brake that’s a 26 inch barrel and after the two bucks that I shot at close range my ears 👂 rang for a long time. So 10 less inches and a 45-70 vs 300 WSM seems like decibel making machine.

  • @lettingthebearout7528
    @lettingthebearout7528 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love them. Would love them even more if the laminate was brown vs grey and you could get them blued. Basically I want the Guide Gun appearance with ghost ring or peep sights from the SBL or Trapper. Would also love it if they made this setup available in the 30-30. Anyway, I’ll never sell my lever actions, only buy more. That muzzle break looks very cool.

    • @conanlive3784
      @conanlive3784 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty sure the 1895 SBL comes in wood furniture and blued metal as well as this all-weather version.

  • @mjcmustang
    @mjcmustang ปีที่แล้ว

    Buy some shims to eliminate the side to side slop in the lever and does amazing things for the the feel and increases confidence in the rifle

  • @chadmcginney1600
    @chadmcginney1600 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been trying to get a hold of an SBL, but I suppose the quantities available are limited. I have one on order and can’t wait to get it!!!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right now Ruger only has one production line up and running making Marlins. And last I heard it was currently making the Trappers. With other models coming up soon I am guessing it will be months at least before they get around to the SBL again. But I also heard they were working to get more lines up and running. The from what they've shown so far they're going to take it slow and at those lines will come up to speed very slowly.

    • @robertkovalak1368
      @robertkovalak1368 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just picked up the trapper from a local store. Lucky to find one at a retail/msrp price instead of a resale for 400-600$ more. They had 2 in stock. As soon as I saw it on their website I rushed over as soon as they opened. I've seen custom builds on gunbroker asking 3500$

    • @chadmcginney1600
      @chadmcginney1600 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertkovalak1368 enjoy it!! Still waiting for mine to come in! I actually found a Henry 45-70 side gate at a local store and bought it. It was the only one in the entire state at the time. It’s an awesome gun and work of art! It shoots awesomely too!!! Hopefully, the SBL will come soon! Next is learning to reload the 45-70!

  • @collinbarry7139
    @collinbarry7139 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well you am a trapper type shooter!! The short barrel trapper works on Hog hunting, if you have done this you will understand!! I have a Guide Rifle from the lake 90’s in 45/70 it has an 18” barrel and compensated in the barrel! Sweet shooting heavy 405 gr and my favorite reloads!!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have killed quite a few Hogs here on the place. They were mostly at close range and mostly at night. That's a different kind of hunting.

  • @earlmorrison7833
    @earlmorrison7833 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video !! Thanks

  • @ronlafitte6864
    @ronlafitte6864 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video and fine rifles! Where did you find the ammo? HaHa! I love my two JM Marlins, one with a 22 inch barrel and the CB with its 26 inch barrel. I would love having the stainless model from Ruger , but hopefully in either 44 magnum or 357 magnum. I think that would round out my Marlin collection quite well!

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for your comment! Clint actually provided ammo for the video.

    • @ronlafitte6864
      @ronlafitte6864 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TargetSuite I would bet money on the quality of the Ruger rifles being much better than the Remlins were!!

    • @theleveractionhunter
      @theleveractionhunter ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe this ammo was found at Academy or Walmart. Cant remember exactly?

  • @staccatoglock
    @staccatoglock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got VERY lucky and snagged one of these for MSRP😎🍻🥳

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's fantastic! I've seen a few for MSRP around here as well. Thanks for sharing with us!

  • @unclechappy9074
    @unclechappy9074 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This exact scenario happened to me yesterday. I went with the SBL. It was just too pretty in person.

  • @sifilmaker
    @sifilmaker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video, Im just wondering, it seems like the lever working is little difficult. I love the Henry golden boy and Mares. love them both. Smooth lever, the SPL would be my choice based on this video.

  • @lifted_above
    @lifted_above ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know how it is to feel like I'm doing restaurant management a disservice going on and on and on about stuff long after the meal is finished. 😆
    I'm waiting for Ruger to get a new 336 out.

    • @TargetSuite
      @TargetSuite  ปีที่แล้ว

      I got to watch a video on their production line capability, and I suspect that Marlin we'll keep this line configured for the 1895 a little bit longer. But like you I'm really anticipating the 336 and 1894 models to come out.

    • @timthorson52
      @timthorson52 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TargetSuite Are they only running a single production line at a time for marlin? That sounds very unfortunate as they still havent come close to meeting demand on these rifles, and there are a lot more types to get started, even in the 1895 type.