.45-70 Government Henry and Grizzly Bears
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- Henry .45-70 Government Lever Action and my grizzly bear encounter.
Thank you for watching the story of my 45-70 and my time in Wyoming hammering it out with a Grizz.
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I hunted Grizzlies 4 times, taken 3. The last one was a genuine Alaskan Tundra monster. 8’ 1” hide. Amazing how fast they can move. I used a 300 Weatherby twice and for the last one a 338 WM. Good times. And they have my respect for sure.
I would love to do a hunt! Thanks for sharing and I hope you enjoyed the video
My Son got an 800 lb Brown bear in Alaska, he was using my Remington firing the 300 WSM using the reloads I made using Barns MRX 180
gr bullet with Reloader 26 powder- he had the game meat with him waiting for the plane to get him but with a slight breeze blowing to his left he spotted the bear following the smell, at about 60 yards he hit it in a left shoulder went through and clipped the heart and went through both lungs and stopped on his inside shoulder
@@ITW.FirearmsWell I thought your story was a bit of "along walk off a short pier!* LOL
I don't care if you're carrying a cannon...Grizzly's are a dangerous animal.
I totally agree
Yeah man a Grizzly ain't no joke! Very fast and Smart
Very dangerous !!!
They are smart and fast - they are Meat eaters, and they will get you given the opportunity. Don’t never trust one !
And they close quickly!
I had a similar experience 25 years ago in WY when I went on an elk hunting trip with my uncle. This was pre-cellphone era so no pictures for proof, and it's one of those experiences that you can't truly explain to someone that hasn't experienced it themselves. Long story short: we dismounted from our horses and decided to walk for a spell, during our walk, we disturbed a sleeping grizzly that was hidden in a pile of underbrush. I can't honestly say how close it was, with the adrenaline messing with memory, it could have been as close as 20 feet or as far as 50 feet. It stood up, turned and stared right at us, roared, we started yelling and waving our arms, it did a half stand and double stomp of its front paws, roared again, and then turned and walked the other direction. The whole encounter maybe lasted 30 seconds, but in the moment it felt like 10 minutes. Our guide later told us it was a "small" one that he estimated around 800 lbs.
800 lbs is a big grizzly. Sounds like your guide didn't know much but either way good story
You sure can tell those far-out wild liars TH-cam Groupie stories.
I guided AK brown bear and interior Grizzly hunts from 1989 to fall 2019.
In all the dangerous bears encounters I had not once did bears ROAR at me or the clients that is just BS.
They will snap their teeth and low growl by never ROAR !
@@lurebenson7722 sure can, I'm replying to one right now.
@@lurebenson7722 Yes, Grizzlies are well known for snapping when they feel threatened up close, but there are plenty of videos of them right here on YT indeed roaring as part of a threat display.
It sounds as if you're just a typical know-it-all.
@@Gunners_Mate_Guns So name those TH-cam videos you claim Grizzlys are jumping up and down like a jack rabbit ROARING & ROARING LIKE A FOG HORN !
Close grizz encounters are literal life & death encounters..and you did the RIGHT thing dismounting to get your boots on solid ground & lessening the variables if the trigger was needed. Well done cowboy & thanks for letting us saddle up with ya on that adrenaride!💪😎👍
Thank you for commenting! I’m glad you enjoyed!
Awesome story. Great looking rifle as well. Keep up these great trail riding adventures and stories and this channel will take off.
Thank you! I appreciate that. Will do!
Early 1990's when I was a young ranch hand. About 15 of us were cutting fire wood near the Grand Teton Park and we just got out of the trucks and were taking out our chain saws and tools. I being Native American of course scouted out ahead and found a fresh giant grizzly bear paw print. It was so fresh you could see the print lines from it's paws in the mud. I called out the foreman and showed him the prints. He took one look at it, saw how fresh it was and said, "everybody back in the trucks!" We reloaded all the gear and drove 10-15 miles down the road.
Fun times! That print was HUGE!
I loved being a ranch hand! Hat's off to the real cowboys who went on those 3-5 day rides with our guest customers in the moutains! Hard damn work but I loved every minute of it!
Loved the story! Gotta get me one of those lever actions!
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Thanks for sharing! And yes you need one of these
@@ITW.Firearms I miss being young, indestructible, and fearless! And God, I miss Wyoming! It's so beautiful!
I went out there a couple years back to do some volunteering and we had one sniffing around our camp one morning. Bear in mind (pun intended) this was a bunch of English history students so we had never seen a carnivore bigger than a fox before, everyone absolutely shit a brick.
Wyoming is stunning though, ive been to a fair few places and i havent seen anywhere that looks like that. The people are friendly as you like too. Id happily live there if the US government would let me 😂😂
Wonderful tale Bryson, I am not going to lie, what made me pause and take notice of your video was that Big Bad Girl 45-70 right up front in the photo. I love story time and you knocked it out of the park. You are a well-spoken young man with a good vocabulary, and you brought in enough details to keep one’s interest peaked listening to the story. The fact that you took a picture is a great bonus but never let that deter you from telling a great story. People can choose to believe you or not, who cares. Those of us who have lived through similar experiences are the individuals who love to hear these stories. You keep living your life to its fullest and keep telling your stories, that is how legends are born. You ever get up to Alaska try to look me up, I would enjoy sharing a story in person over a beer and show you my 45-70 govt.
Man I am really thankful for your comment. That made my day!
I would love to come up to Alaska sometime. Likewise, if youre ever in the western slope shoot me a message.
ITW Firearms Alaska trip sounds pretty good though. What part of AK?
I worked for the U.S. Forest Service in Southeast Alaska for 21 years and often encountered the large coastal grizzlies/brown bears. Your bear is a mountain grizzly, not one of the well fed (on salmon) coastal grizzlies. The one you encountered is a big mountain grizzly, but probably isn't more than 500 or 600 pounds. It isn't even close to 1,100 pounds. Mountain grizzlies have to work very hard to put on pounds for their winter hibernation, so they just don't get big like the coastal grizzlies that have all the salmon they want for very little work. The average male coastal grizzly will be bigger than the average male mountain grizzly because of the salmon they have to eat. A BIG mountain grizzly MAY go 650 pounds. A BIG coastal grizzly or Kodiak Island grizzly will easily go twice that. The REALLY BIG coastal grizzlies will take your breath away. and if you are carrying a large caliber rifle you will look at the rifle and wonder if it is big enough! To give you an example, one spring our forest wildlife biologist was working with the Alaska Fish & Game bear biologists flying around in a helicopter darting coastal grizzlies, taking blood and DNA samples, and using the helicopter with a scale to lift the bears and weigh them. They were doing this in the spring and trying to do this as soon as the bears came out of hibernation. They watched one particular male bear dig its way through the snow as it just came out of its den. They darted it, and it weighed 1,100 pounds IN THE SPRING AS IT CAME OUT OF ITS DEN! These big bears put on an average of 100 POUNDS PER MONTH until they go back in their den for the winter. In other words, this bear would weigh around 1,700 POUNDS by the time it will go back into its den for the winter. Bears this big are few and far between, but they do exist. To see one within 100 yards is something you will never forget!
Hey partner, thank you for clarifying and commenting! I bet that was some real work up that way. I can admit my ignorance in regards to estimating bear weight. I have learned through similar comments I overbid the lbs
Treat that bad boy like he's 3k lbs of fury wherever you see it! A grizzly is a grizzly and dinner is dinner
Good 300 wing mag
338, or 416 rigby would be my first 2 choices for alaskan grizzly
Fantastic story! Thanks so much for sharing this adventure with all of us! I look forward to watching more of your content.
You absolutely did the right thing by dismounting especially NOT KNOWING THE HORSE. If the horses spook you’ve really got problems. Grizzlies are very tricky and unpredictable. I carry my Ruger 45/70 and Ruger SFAR. I’ve spent enough time behind the SFAR to trust mine but still bring ole faithful. Glad everything turned out positive
Thanks for watching and commenting. I agree, can’t stay in a mutt you don’t trust
I totally concur with this comment. I'm native born Alaskan born in Kodiak. 80 years old and too old bor the bush now.. Most animals run from being shot or shit at. Not Griz. They come straight at the source like a heat seeking middle and have killed their attacker as they fell dead. One that size won't be stopped or knocked down by your 45/70 unless it's a perfect hit between the eyes. A helluva shot to track at 45 mph. You were wise to dismount that green Arabian. We have 19 of them. Wrong animal for that. Stay Strong and live free. Dandahermit
Really good story you'll be telling grandkids one day maybe.
Would definitely like to see a video on that Henry, beautiful rifle.
Cheers
Thanks for watching and commenting! Haha I’ll be telling it forever
Video coming soon on the Henry
That truly is a rare rifle you were lucky to find. One does not see those in left hand very often.
henry never made a left handed levergun. But a case hardened 45-70 henry is indeed a rare and expensive find
@@Cloth_Gloves I agree to both your statements.
Hey thank you for watching and commenting. It’s actually a right handed. I recorded in selfie mode. My apologies
@@ITW.Firearms No worries, I could tell from the buttons on your shirt. But don't you just hate that about selfies? Most folks think they are taking a real to life photo, but it's really a mirrored image.
Let me add the practice can lead to a loss of credibility. I've seen self proclaimed horsemen saddling a horse on the right side of the animal. Go figure.
@@olegig5166 I do hate that. I make sure to have it filming normally for tomorrows video
That's a beautiful rifle and a great story. I live in Texas, the North East part so we don't see bears but I still want a 45-70. I want an older Marlin cowboy model with the long octagon barrel. They're very hard to find, especially the JM models. Thanks for the video.
Wow I've been looking for a Marlin 1895 cb with a octagon barrel for a while now - hope you find one
@@jameshipp6475 around my area they're like unicorns. I've looked as far as Dallas with no luck. There are plenty of newer models but no JM stamped rifles.
Man that's wild! You've got one heck of a story to tell your grandkids.
Good move getting of the horse in an encounter. You cant control the horse if it happened to spook and it would make your ability to bear spray or shoot ineffective. Worse yet imagine deploying bear spray atop a horse and wind comes back and the horse gets a dose. A real rodeo. You need to get an Lee load kit and load your own 45-70 ammo. You can purchase cast or mono and jacketed bullets and load them yourself. Also for night usebyou need an quick detach light and mount. Nothing else is needed. And you did a really smart move keeping the ammo on that belt instead of the rifle. Solid move.
@aaron thank you so much for the detailed information. I appreciate it very much!
Also, thank you for agreeing on the matter of staying mounted. It is a topic of debate to this day
@ITW.Firearms Skinner Sights makes an nifty light mount for your rifle so you can QD an Olight or Streamlight so it's good for scabbard use. I personally don't care for a lot of stuff hanging on my levergun getting caught up in the bush. It's heavy timbered and very brushy where I'm at. If you need a sling for any rifle just get an cheap cotton GI type shooting sling or the Slogan Sling. You don't need them for a saddle gun but if your on foot they can be an game changer for field shooting, at least for me. Good luck out there.
Awesome story, glad it ended where everyone could live to talk about it. Keep doing that work and you will have many more hopefully. I love my .45-70, Its the stainless steel Marlin, the same one used in that Jurrasic world movie. There are no grizz where I am so I refer to it as my 'bigfoot' rifle. My .30-30 is my other favorite.
“Bigfoot” rifle
I like that haha!
If you believe that liar and his fake story you can be suckered by anyone.
I have guided brown bear hunts in Alaska with at times also interior Grizzly hunts I guided.
These bear don't ROAR at you they will snap teeth and low growl.
@@lurebenson7722 Ha! Roar / growl... tomato / tomaato ... i do believe you are overthinking on this.
I acquired a ruger marlin SBL myself and we only have dropbears down under, tailoring some cast loads for a trip up to Cape York after buffalo and scrub bulls.
Great talk grew up with 45-70 trap door long Springfields the best of the 3 we had ,my dad had smithed and sighted for smokless from blackpowder we both would shoot only 1 box on range between us on any day at a 100 yrds it was about on the mark but it let you know what you were shooting no stock pads just steel always last to shoot in the weapon line up,that was at least 50+years ago and i can still feel it now!thanks from T-Man
That is awesome! Thank you for sharing
The Marlin logo "Danger Ahead", first appeared in the painting "His Last Stand". The painting features a dangerous starving grizzly bear being cornered by dogs and two cowboys with guns on horseback. The artist, Fredrick Remington, was a cousin of Eliphalet Remington, the founder of Remington Arms. Every Marlin logo on every Ruger/Marlin firearm is a classy tip of the hat to Remington.
Most amazing thing about this story to me is, not only, that you walked into a Scheels and they had exactly the 45-70 you were looking for but it is a left handed loading gate.
It is a standard 45-70. Recorded in selfie mode sorry. But yes, so lucky scheels had exactly what I was looking for
Steinel ammo has some good 45-70 in different loads. Really enjoyed the story.
Its really hard to beat the original government load of 405 grain hard cast lead bullet. The research data the government did when teating the 45-70 is still available, and its a good read. The government went above and beyond when they tested that cartridge in the 1800s. All i can say is, its impressive.
Great story ,true, but you are a great STORYTELLER!
Nicely done loved every second.
P. S.
Glad everyone walked away with just a story. ( and maybe a little extra laundry to do)
HAHAHA extra laundry!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for commenting
2:49 that long pause right there tells you all you need to know about this man’s appreciation for firearms 👍
😂😂 glad someone noticed
Excellent story...thanks for your time man ~ you're looking good and I definitely approved of your fire power ~
Thank you kindly
Thank you for sharing the story. I've never been in true bear country but would love to see the West at least once in my life. Not terrified of bears, but certainly wary. I think you have a healthy attitude. I am always annoyed by the various "hippie" backpackers who say that they "never had problems with bears" (meaning they haven't been mauled YET). And they spread this view that bears are cute and friendly. I certainly think bears are awesome, when viewed from a safe distance. NEVER would I want to kill a bear, except on a legitimate hunt, and I don't even think I want to hunt bears, but totally ok if others do. And I realize that even when equipped adequately, it's still dangerous and not a guarantee, but it certainly feels better.
Here in NM and COLO, there is an attitude among those you call 'hippie backpacker', that any thing goes wrong with a bear encounter, it is the humans fault. 'Oh just be cool and mellow and the bear will go its own way' they say. WRONG THINK. Bears are unpredictable and all bets are off with what they might do. I have had a score of bear encounters in my life and yes, been charged. Tent ripped open at 2am while girl friend screamed. Only one kind of bear I am afraid of, the one that doesnt run away. Advice is to 'be prepared' for the unexpected from bears.
Het this was really fun and exciting to watch and listen. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it! That means the world!
Two people were recently killed by a grizzly in Banff, Canada by a grizzly. Their mace can was empty and the bear kept attacking
Unfortunately you can't carry guns in national parks. That's also why I don't go hiking in parks.
When the US Forest Service decided in the early 70s, that it was going to hire young women for Alaska Forests. The standard at time was that recruits had to hit a paper plate at chosen distance (highly variable from tester to tester) usually with 5 shots. The issue rifle was a Winchester Model 70 with Mauser extractor and iron sights. The cartridges were Winchester factory .375 H&H silver tips. These rifles weighed about eight and a half pounds. I helped two of our King County Search and Rescue girls qualify and get jobs. The Government financed a study provide evidence what a bear protection firearm should be. The rules of the study were, factory firearms, not modified, with commonly available factory ammunition. The standard for measuring the desired wound to the bear was to penetrate the skull at close range. They also referenced a German language published paper that found that velocities less that 2200 fps did not disable the parasympathetic nervous system. That is why the .458 Watt has eclipsed the popularity of the .458 Winchester cartridge for elephant. and cape buffalo. The conclusion of the Government study was that the .375 H&H rifle and ammunition, circa 1972, was hard to beat for an Alaskan bear stopper. The .458 Wichester soft point, .460 and .378 Weatherby bullets were less reliable expanding and often glanced off skulls and big bones. They tested 3 grizzly skulls and found that cattle skulls were a reasonable replica enough to evaluate the ammunition and a lot easier to come by for study. The runner up was the 300gr Winchester load for the .338 Win. Of course Winchrster Ammunition dropped the loading right after the study. The .44 magnum pistol bullets were a joke at the time, the same pill was loaded into the .444 Marlin and it was worse, breaking up easily. The 45-70 was loaded by Remington Ammunition to 1350 fps with a solid lead slug and not a player. Moderate velocities 2200 to 2600 did the best with bullets 300 grains or heavier.
My choice for a fishing rifle in Alaska is a Reminton 7600 Pump in .35 Whelen, handloaded with Barnes copper bullets and a receiver peep sight with fiberoptic fluorescent front bead. It has more than the 2200fps velocity level and put the bear in shock, not just bleed it to death. It will penetrate the skull at close range because the bullet is monolithic.
Wow! Thank you for sharing. Where did you come by this info? I’ve never heard of that caliber
@224Nisqually
I'd also like to more about this information, if you're willing to share of course. I'd particularly like to know about the skull penetration tests.
I've only ever seen their paper about penetration testing in silt/sawdust, not anything more practical like skulls.
@ITW.Firearms 35 Whelen is a 30-06 necked up to 35 caliber created by Townsend Whelen. I've been wanting one for years but kinda forgot about it. Well, my history was off a little bit. Whelen was working on a .400 and James Howe designed the .35 and named it after Whelen. That's what I get for repeating what I was told instead of researching it myself. Lol😮 Anyway I think it's a pretty good cartridge under 200yds.
Though I have a SS Marlin 45/70 GG and a Marlin 44 mag I use depending on what bear country I am in . I have always thought that a 45/70 " pump action " would be way better to operate in stress . Never considered the 35 W , I shall now .. TY
@@indycharlie Why not a semi-auto .458 SOCOM?
I live on a mountain in Montana. About 2 months ago we had a young 3 year old collard griz take up residency between my neighbors homestead and mine. FWP came out and set up a trap to try and capture this bear. I carry and hunt with my Henry All Weather 45-70, pre side gate. It was bow season at the time but i carried my Henry every hunt until the griz moved on. From the pictures we got FWP estimated him to weigh about 600lbs. They tracked him back to his winter grounds in the Scapegoat mountains. I also carry a G20 in a chest holster with Underwood ammo 220 gr hard cast bullets but while that bear trap was here less than 200 yards from my family, the Henry was my go to gun.
What's a collard grizzly bear? Do they eat collard greens?
What's a G20?
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A problem grizzly that has been trapped before and moved to another location. They put GPS tracking collars on them.
@@enigmavariations3809 Glock 20 10mm
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Along with chitlins n gravy made from city-ots
Awesome story thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
Dammit man I miss the west I lived in Engle co for two years at age 16 on a ranch came back to North Carolina the day before 9/11 took a plane from Denver to Dallas to Atlanta to Greenville next day all hell broke loose . Never made it back left because my grandpa was passing away definitely changed my life but I miss the west you got my sub buddy . Thumbs up
Braddah I loved the fact that you thought of the family first and dismounted the horse rite on ma man love ur story ur a good teller and that’s a beautiful gun I have a 45-70 as well I think it’s a WC octagon it’s a beauty as well Aloha my friend stay safe & stay blessed 🤙🙏
Thanks man I’m glad you enjoyed! Likewise stay safe
@@ITW.Firearms rite on 🤙Happy Holidays
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Thank you 👍
Nice story! I have wanted that exact rifle for a long time.
Good story bro. I've had several encounters while moose hunting in the Prince George BC area where I live. I never had the urge to hunt them because they are such a fine species and a good indicator of the health of the area. But I do hunt blacks and I love the sausage. One incident was on a logging block where I was walking. I came up a rise in the road and about the time I could see down the other side, I saw a small sow in the ditch with a cub and two more about 30 yards behind her. They were feasting on fiddleheads in the ditch. I just slowly backed away and turned as soon as she couldn't see me and got the heck away from there. One other time was in the same area near Willow River and that sow was one huge momma. I used to pack a Sako .338 with 250-grain hand loads. The timber went silent about a minute before 2 cubs appeared and both were bigger than the little sow in the first story so they were likely soon to be pushed away from her. That gun felt like a peashooter in my hands. When she appeared my Akita was turning to come back and see where I was at which point I had to try and scare her because he was downwind about 75 yards from them and he wasn't smart enough to go the other way, and I'm not faulting him a bit. The skid-trail Jake was coming down turned below and came past where I was standing under a big old fir and my view of the scene was excellent. Truth is Jake loved hunting anything but especially bear so I wanted to avoid this encounter completely. I took a big breath and let out as loud a "whoop" as I could and they vanished into the timber. She was a smart girl for she'd been around the area likely for years. I'd guess her at an easy 800, maybe a little more. The first one was much smaller and I'd put her around 250-300.
First time ever seeing a left handed lever action 45/70 very nice
Video is inverted. It’s a standard
Bryson, you have the makings of a really good troubadour. I hope you continue, since I subscribed ::)). That 19 min. video flew by. You definitely made the right decision to dismount. It would have been very interesting watching your horse's reaction to the muzzle blast going off next to his ear, if you shot from the saddle. I love the Henry rifle, as I have two myself (not 45.70 govt.--as of yet), although I do have a Marlin .444, which is close ballistically. Keep it up.
Hey partner, I really appreciate the comment. Made my day! More content will be coming. I'm back in Tennessee with my full collection at the moment and will be making more videos asap. By the way, I would love to have a Marlin .444
An Alaskin bear guide once said, "There's a difference between a defensive and an offensive firearm for a grizzly bear," and that stuck with me as he went on to explain why. It's one thing to pick a bear off, at distance, when he doesn't even know you're there, but would you choose that same gun and sighting system if that same bear was suddenly charging at you from short distances? Most likely, no.
You need a manuevarable, quick sighting, fast follow-up shot weapon.
Personally, Id choose a Benelli 12 self feeding 12 guage, carry a shoulder holstered magnum revolver, a double bladed large knife, and bear spray.
You need a weapon for each distance you could be in with an angry bear.
12 guage for close to medium, revolver for up close in arms reach, and a knife if the bear is on me.
Their eyes, throat and brain are your best options by far.
Always remember, a bear high on adrenaline have been known to fight for up to five minutes AFTER total blood loss functioning. Bears with ruptred hearts have been known to continue to fight for a while.
Thanku for that story. I myself have a 4570, it’s tube fed not side gate but I love it
They are cool rifles!
Thanks for posting and sharing.
And thank you for liking and commenting
Well told, glad the bears went their way. They are beautiful creatures.
I live in a fairly remote part of Alberta, where the foothills turn into into mountains, we have the highest/healthiest population of Grizz in the province. I use a 45-70 for home protection. First response is always bear spray, followed up with the marlin guide gun. Grizz are protected up here and it better be life or death, fish and game would rather deal with an attack than a dead bear. Most of the time they aren't interested in us but all it takes is one sick or old bear to end you. This fall I was still hunting a cut block and walked back to the jeep, hit the key fob. The horn spooked up a young Grizz less than 75 yards from where I had been sitting. They are like ghosts in the bush, don't see or hear them until they want you too. Nothing worse than being in the bush alone, finding sign and holding a can of bear spray knowing its supposed to be your only defense...
What is your take on bear spray? Have you ever employed it or anyone in your area put it to the test?
I had a drunk roommate hit the neighbors really mean dalmation one night when he came home from the bar. That dog was nowhere near out of fight. I said then i'd never carry that stuff though years later i did carry a can on a thigh rig when i was working a private protection contract in the hood. Thugs are more scared of that spray than a gun because they know you can use it with a lot less provocation so it does shine there but bears, hell no.
@@ITW.Firearms I've had close calls with false charges but never discharged it. I do have have relatives that have used it for bears and cougars. They swear by it. In Canada we don't have many choices if it isn't hunting season.
I thoroughly enjoyed this story, you're a natural storyteller.
That means a lot! I'm happy you enjoyed
I SAID THE SAME THING!
Big Story Teller!
Marlin makes one of the finest 45-70 lever action- personality I have the blued one and the stainless steel which I keep at my home in Alaska. The S&W model 25 which shoots the 45LC is a N frame with a 4 inch barrel which I had mag ported on each side of the front sight- and used 454 Cases cut to LC length with 340gr flat nose hard lead bullets with velocity of 1100 FPS
Wow! that is some serious firepower
Carried a stainless Rossi .44 mag lever action stoked with 300 Gr. dangerous game loads also a nickle plated Bounty Hunter 4.75" SAA pistol loaded with the same ammo. I might be taking a chance but the .44 Mag has a reputation for taking large and dangerous animals. What made me a believer is the success it has had with Cape Buffalo & American Bison. Those hombres are tough and giant too! Glad all went well. Thanks for the video & God bless.
The 44mag almost doubles in energy and gains 50 to 70 percent more speed when ran through a longer rifle/carbine barrel. 357s and 44mag pistol cartridges both become new beast when turned into carbine rounds. Inside of 50 yards there's not many things that walk, crawl or swim on this planet that a 44 mag carbine won't stop with a well placed shot👍
@chadmcswain5389 I am hooked on .44 Mag as a do everything cartridge. I have 2 lever guns and 7 single action pistols as well as 2 double action revolvers all chambered for it. For handloaders & bullet casters, being able to shoot .44 Russian and S&W Special for home defense and full house magnums really makes it versatile from varmints to dangerous game. Thanks pardner
Well done! You made solid decisions throughout the encounter.
Thank you! and i appreciate you watching
Very engaging story Sir!! Very interesting and enjoyable!! You are an excellent narrator and speaker!! I just wanted to suggest a Grizzly round that you probably are aware of but if per chance you are not this is the HSM 430 grain RNFP +p 45-70 Grizzly rounds.
They are 430 grain with a velocity of 1,081 FPS, but have 3,098 foot pounds of energy!! If you want a Grizzly round that will do the job this is it!! They are very accurate too!! Enjoy your videos immensely!! Thank you!! These HSM rounds are Round Nose Flat Point lead cast bullets that will enter Mr. Grizzly at the snout and exit via the drought!! I see the variety of human beings you have to guide on your trail adventures and this is the one selection of 45-70 government ammunition I would bring along to protect them. They are the best of the best in the West!!
Hey thanks for commenting and I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
I will look into that round. I have not seen it yet in stores or gun shows. Thank you for sharing, I bet that is a hog of a cartridge
HSM is built in stevensville Montana
I have a Henry 45/70 side gate Big Boy and soon going to order the All Weather. I like the look of yours with the case hardening too. Maybe next time!!
Is that ammo belt a sling too or just ammo carry? Would be interested in the makers info. Still looking for comfy slings and equipment!!
Good story!! Glad ya didn't get charged or stalked for the kids sakes!! Nice having a rear gunner too!! The Henry all weather in 357 is pretty awesome too!! 45/70 in 405 grain is pretty cool too. Hedge cutters in Virginia!! 😊
Thanks for commenting and I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
The bandolier is just that. Awesome work done by bobbypeoples303@gmail.com
Great conversation, your intelligent for telling a story..unlike current people..
I was the same way about getting a lever gun. I wanted an 1886, octagon barrel, case hardened, side gate in 45-70 with a nice walnut stock. I ended up ordering a Pedersoli sporting rifle through Taylor’s. It’s beautiful, cost me a good chunk of change but I love it…
The guy behind the counter was a hell of a salesman cause he sold me a model 12 too same day.
That is awesome! Would love to see the one you got. Also, thank you for your service. Semper Fidelis and Happy Valentines Day
Hello 👋 my outdoors friend, thank you for sharing this suspenseful video. Stay safe out there. 😊
Likewise my friend! Thanks for watching
Thought Bandoliers were bullet holders😅👍🏻🍻😁
Great gun, I'm a lever man myself when it comes to rifles, Bolt Actions too💯👍🏻
Awesome weapon I have the 45/70 Henry all weather I absolutely love the rifle and yes I would love the link or contact for the bullet sling thank awesome video sir
Thanks for the story it was really good
Glad you enjoyed it
Welcome to Cody Wyoming (the Cowboy state), my wife and I (Brent) live it Cody. We traveled through the east gate of Yellowstone once a week from the time it opened (2023 season) until snow forced it's closure at Pahaska Tepee. I shot an elk on the last day of the season (12/21/2023) on the North Fork, private property on Big Creek, Road 6BU, up behind Grizzly Ranch (on Google Map) about 30 miles from the east gate. Great choice of a weapon. I take a Marlin Guide gun, holds 6+1 of 45-70 and an 18" 12 gauge with 00 buck & slugs and bear spray. I really enjoyed your video. Please post some more videos and visit Cody again. Congratulations on pronouncing Shoshone, the town, south of Thermopolis is spelled the same but pronounced Shoshonee (long e) but everything else is as you pronounced it.
Hey Brent, I love Cody! Cannot wait to come visit that beautiful country again. Thank you for commenting and hope to bring more videos to enjoy! Stay warm this time of year
Great story. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
When u get on the trail if u got time can u show some videos of that country.. where ever u at .. i live in Georgia in a city.. i don't get to see much country... I love it out west
Absolutely!
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You tell a story very well!
Made my day! Thanks for watching
Awesome story. I have relatives in Powell, near Heart Mountain.
I liked Powell! Nice town
that is the best looking rifle i have ever seen.
Yes, when yu come face to face with a Brown Bear it is exciting. They scare me more than people hunting on four continents. One of the reason I live in Alaska now.
Good stuff. Always wanted a 4570, just havent had one come up at the price I'm lookin for yet really. Also, im out in the south east, no grizz in my area at all only black bear. Normally they're pretty spooky, not lookin for a fight, but still a decent size animal you should be cautious of. I dont do any trail ridin on pack horses or anything, most of my travel in the woods is on foot, so I typically sling an ar depending what im doin. I hunt coyotes and deer with my 5.56, 95 percent of the time. If were goin further back in and doin some other stuff I'll take the ar in 450bushmaster. Ballistics are pretty damn close to 4570 from what I was told, I keep it loaded with 300 grain jacketed soft points. With a standard 20 round 556 mag think it hold like 9 rounds plus 1 in the pipe of 450 so basically the same capacity as a 4570 lever gun or close I'd think. In other cases I have been known to take one of my lever guns out in 45 colt or 357 mag.
Awesome story dude
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Welcome aboard!
how do those chamber the longer rounds? I have found my two Henrys in 45c and 357 to be finicky with the longer bullets. I love the Henrys with the curved stocks
Mine does pretty well.
I guess your experience contributes to the Marlin vs. Henry debate
Thanks for watching and commenting. Safe trails
Wow that's what I call a wtf moment. You had it under control. Glad things went the way they have. A level head and comon sence also gut feeling helps to. But when it's your time, it's your time.
Killer story. Take care and thank you for sharing
Thank you for watching and I’m glad you enjoyed!!
I have a Henry Brass 45-70 ,I shoot lefty I didn't realize that Henry made a left hand lever action, very interesting 🤔, I have the standard right hand side gate.
Mine is standard. It’s inverted due to Selfie mode on my phone-my apologies
Yeah, i'd love to have that belt. I've been looking for one of them for a long time. I got a 4570.
Love the hat. Very slick.
Thank you kindly!
Hello. I was not aware that Henry company made left-handed lever-actions. 🤔
Did you show the Boss/Foreman/Owner of the Horse-Trail-Ride place the photos of the Bear? That person needs to carry a bigger / heavier caliber pistol than a .22 if the Horse camp is in the wilds of Wyoming. Much better choice would be a Ruger Single-action chambered in .45 Colt ("L.C.").
I lived in Grizzly and Black Bear country for 5 years (South Central Alaska). Most folks who actively hunt Bears usually carry a .338 Winchester Magnum chambered bolt-action rifle or a .45-70 Govt. in the Marlin 1895 "Cowboy" long barrel. The other option that many home/cabin/Mobile Home dwellers keep, and use is a 12 Gauge shotgun loaded with rifled slugs. The Alaska State Wildlife Troopers (and the local Police) use a 12-gauge Pump-action shotgun with Rifled slugs for bears when they get too close to people's dwellings in town. Bears like to scrounge food left by trash cans and often leftover meat particles left on a bar-B-Que grill in the yard.
Bears are totally unpredictable, as you witnessed in your encounter. Thankfully that bear went away. Some bears might have attacked.
Mountain Lions/Cougars/Pumas, Wolves, Coyotes will often attack, especially if the person tries to run away.
You might think about getting a 12-gauge pump-action or double-barrel shotgun and putting a variety of shells in you saddle bags,,,, Bird shot, B-B size shot (Snakes), 00 Buck shot and Rifled Slug shells. They will not travel as far as the bullet from the .45-70 Govt. cartridge, and ,,,,, you can find 12-guage ammo more places than .45-70 Govt. ammo.
Save your empty brass cartridge case and get yourself a simple basic "Original "Lee Loader" for that Buffalo gun. It is powered by arm & mallet. It has the tool and instructions,,,, all you need is a bottle of IMR-3031 Powder, or IMR-4895 or "Reloder #7" or "BL-C(2) powder and some Large Rifle Primers and some .45 caliber bullets from 300, 405 grain or even the original Army bullet --> the 500 grain slug.
Thank you so much for watching and sharing your story.
The rifle is actually a standard right handed Henry. I recorded on selfie mode and it is flipped.
I will check out the Lee Loader.
Thank you
@@ITW.Firearms Hello. I wondered about that "left-sided" action on the Henry... 😊🙃
BTW - My Dad and sis used to have Arabian horses. (My horse was a "Heinz 57" mix). Never heard anyone in the Arabian horse world call an Arab a "Mutt" before. Normally Arabian breed horses have a good attitude, unlike Thoroughbreds and Shetland Ponies. In the later 60's to early 1980's they were the "in thing", a high dollar horse breed. Nowadays, not so much. Seems several folks are using "Quarter Horses".
Winter is coming soon, few or no customers for the trail ride company, so now would be a good time to try and retrain that horse you had trouble with. Maybe it would be good to teach the horse how to "Neck rein" instead of the two-handed "Buggy rein" method. You cannot fire a weapon if both hands are on the reins.
Simplest way to teach neck reining to a horse is attach the left rein to the right side of a bit and the right-side rein to the left side of the bit. {In other words,,, make a X-shape under the neck area.}
I quit using a bit early on with my horse and switched to a "homemade" mechanical hackamore instead. Nothing in the mouth. Strong wide surface over the nose, and a good wide "padded lever" under/behind the mouth jaw area. I used to get a ribbon at a local Horse Show/Gymkhana doing the "Trail Course" class. {Very early 1970's}
Horses often fight a bit in their mouth. most horses do not mind a hackamore, IME. Hope this helps.
Great recap on your trail ride!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Actually with some flip up long range diopter sight it's a dream shooter for long range so long as you don't mess the distance measurement. ;) For your need it is a rock solid choice as it is though. Greetings from Hungary!
Will check that out! Thanks for watching
There have been two horses in my life. One was on a 2 hr ride at the Shoshone Lodge (I don't think our guide was armed), and the other was smothered in onions on my dinner plate.
Hahahaha
@-7:34
Is another one you had me on!!!
lol.
Love that your left handed . 👍
It’s a standard. My apologies it’s inverted bc of selfie mode
From what I read years ago I learned that mace doesn't work on bears because mace requires the existence of tear ducts and grizzly bear don't have them. Pepper spray does work however. I heard an Alaska State Trooper say on a video, when they had to go after a dangerous grizzly, they used 12 gauge shotguns and pepper spray. He said they use the spray to stop the bear long enough to kill it with the shotgun.
Great story!!!!😂
@itwfirearms - great story! What jacket is that you are wearing?
I just read of the mountain men and I was sitting there imagining being them with flint lock, by themselves. Geez
What a time to be alive hahah
Interesting story. If I was carrying a 45-70 for grizzly defense, the magazine would be stoked with at least 400 gr hard-cast lead or maybe the old 405 Belt Mountain Punch Solids. Glad you didn't have to shoot it. Bunch of legal hoops to jump through then.
Didn't know Henry made left handed rifles.
What are the odds that Scheels would have just what you wanted, in a lefty?
Sorry Tim
I recorded the video on my phone with the back facing camera. It’s a standard the video is just flipped
@@ITW.Firearms Thanks.
Really nice rifle. The case hardened looks great.
Great story and Nice rifle !
Thank you so much!
Nice story the .45-70 is great for bear but what I would like to know what is the brand of your olive green jacket.
I've bad run ins with Yellowstone grizzlies outside of Cody on the North Fork and South Fork.....unfortunately. I carry a Henry All weather in 45-70 anytime im in that country, I will sooner forget my boots. If you are Elk hunting during September have someone with you and ready to go....greetings from Wyoming
It sure is beautiful country out there. Stay warm this time of year! Howdy from (Currently TN)
Great story, thx
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome
Hey how is the accuracy on that Henry. I had a lever action in 44 mag. That was aweful. Since i am used to shooting bolt action rifles i wasnt sure. Yet i shot a 44-40 rossy that shot wonderful. It was so accurate it really surprised me. So ever since then i have always wanted a 45-70 but want an accurate rifle. They are not something i see a lot around here and had to ask. Thanks for the video
It’s pretty good. I can’t lie. I should make a video on accuracy and calculate MOA at 100 etc
@@ITW.Firearms yes please I would love to see that.
We’re riding all throughout Yellowstone every summer. We see grizzlies and we just ride and they move on, no grizzly has showed signs of attacking. That being said we were within 200 yards from Amy when she was killed hiking up Buttermilk trail & the grizzly and her baby came flying up Icee Hill right at us. The horses got a little light in the front, at this time I had a little autistic girl & a young lady with a heart condition, luckily they were paying more attention to the horses dispassion change to see the bears in the trees. As for staying on our off the horses, it’s 50, 50 if you’re going to blow off a big 45/70 round. I carry either a 45/70 or a Glock 20 10mm. As for the area you were in, there’s some big bears. We came across a momma & 2 baby’s as we were crossing the bridge just off the freeway, they were in the river. It’s such beautiful there. Stay safe Brother, see you on the trail.
Guy
Where do you ride in Yellowstone?
Thanks for sharing. I’d love to pick up a 10mm Glock as well
@@ITW.Firearms we ride all over the park and around outside Yellowstone. There is so many great trails. Here’s on of our rides. th-cam.com/video/jyoKlN147qA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GfSK3YOPmQRK9hyP
Just got a henry mares leg. First henry i have ever owned but its a sweet little gun. Im getting ready to do a review on it soon. I am now a henry fan fer sure
I’ll check it out! What caliber
@@ITW.Firearms 45 colt I have a few shorts full length video and review will be coming soon. That's a beautiful rifle you have. I'm thinking I want one of those in the near future
I guided big game hunts in northern British Columbia and came upon many grizzlies on the trail. You did the right thing getting down from your horse. You cant aim very accurate when your horse is trying to buck you off!!😅
What was it like guiding hunts up there? I've never made it into Canada, even though I was a jump away in Eureka, MT.
I am going to quote you in my next debate regarding the dismount.
@ITW.Firearms it's awesome. True wilderness. We'd go for 6 weeks at a time sometimes and never see anyone else. Up to 25 pack horses.
Specifically, what model is that? I can’t seem to find that combo with the octagonal barrel. Thanks a bunch. Sub’d 😊
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My guide only carried an axe in northern B.C. for forty years....
Had a Winchester 86 for a couple of years. I quit hiking and it became a date queen. Sold it. Nice rifle.
THE BIG BEAR OF ELY MINNESOTA
I had an encounter with a large bear in the boundary waters between Minnesota and Canada. Don't know if it was a Griz or not, because it was dark. I've always assumed it was a large black bear. It was large enough it could've been a Griz, I suppose. We were a group of Boy Scouts (10 in our group including our former Army Officer Scoutmaster), I was the oldest at 18, on a 50 mile lake / portage trip, and we started and finished out of Ely Minnesota. It was our first night out on the lake, so we were relatively close to Ely (about 10 miles). I know we were still fairly close to civilization because there was a picnic table in our campsite. Being that it was the first night, we had fresh meat with us, which is perhaps what drew the bear to us. We were also camped right on an animal trail which paralleled the lake and went right through our campsite.
After supper we cleaned things up and we hung our food pretty high in a canvas bear bag with all of the cleaned pots and pans in the bottom of the bag. Problem was, we used wet nylon rope, and it stretched a bit. About 2 a.m. we all heard the canvas bear bag violently tear open and then all of the pots and pans make a horrible racket as they clattered and clanged onto the rocks and gravel of the lakeshore. I sat bolt upright in my tent which was pointed out straight towards the lake. I could see through the mosquito netting like it wasn't there, and I don't believe there ever was a starier night. Silhouetted against the brillant backdrop of the milky way was this enormous bear standing on its hind legs, leaning against the tree as its massive paw swiped at the remnants of the canvas bag still hanging from the branch of the tree. One of the Scouts, probably a younger one, cried out in fear. The bear dropped down onto all fours and started for the tents. It was at this point I realized that one of my tent mates was snoring louder than a garbage truck in full operation. I swore that bear was going to come over and open up our tent like a wet paper bag just to see what was making such a disgusting racket. Instantly, I put my hand over the Scout's mouth to shut him up. I'll call him Kevin, which is his real name. Kevin Groves to be precise. Eventually, I thought I was going to suffocate him to death, so I finally took my hand off his mouth. He didn't wake up! He just gasped and resumed his gargantuan pig like snoring. By this time the bear is snuffling around the outside of the other tents but headed our way. Frantically, to no avail whatsoever, I started slapping Kevin's face HARD. HE STILL DIDN'T WAKE UP!! I was sure I was dead because of this human pig snoring like a freight train next to me. The bear is on us and snuffling loudly just on the other side of the micro-thin nylon, and there was nothing I could do but pray.
By the age of 18 I'd done a whole lot of back country hiking and backpacking in bear country, and I was well aware that they have an incredibly keen sense of smell, and that if they smell fear it makes them more aggressive. Well, I was plenty afraid, and KNOWING that my fear was likely making it more aggressive, made me more afraid. It was a baaaaad fear loop. I was so afraid I physically couldn't stop my entire body from shaking terribly. I didn't piss myself, thank goodness, but I've never been more afraid of something earthly than I was that night...and that's saying something since I've also fought through battles and been on the receiving end of complex ambushes in the Middle East as an Infantry soldier. Thankfully, Mr. Bear didn't tear through the tent to get at us, but instead went back to his main objective - the food previously occupying the bear bag. At this time the Scoutmaster, Mr. Manna, yelled at me from one of the other tents, "B, you awake?" I replied I was. He continued, "I've got a plan!" "I'm gonna go out there and make a fire, and you're gonna distract the bear while I do it. Got it?" "Got it, sir" I replied. And I'm thinking, "WTF?!!!" "On the count of three B, we go! One....two... THREE!" By this time, the big bear was inside one of our canoes on the gravel bar, where he'd inadvertantly tossed a Mac & Cheese packet and was busily licking it off the inside of the canoe as he crunched and creaked while shifting his prodigious weight. I was sure the behemoth was creating a million little holes in the thin aluminum as he constantly shifted his weight over the rocks. LOLO - BAD BEAR! On the count of three I raced out of tent to the fallen pots, pans and utensils and grabbed the biggest iron skillet we had as well as a metal serving spoon. FYI - we had no weapons. What were we thinking? Anyway, I knew I had to make myself as big as possbile and make as much racket as possible, so I jumped on top of the picnic table and banged on that skillet with the serving spoon like my life depended on it. A few years prior, while hiking with the Scouts in the Sangre De Cristo mountains of New Mexico, we'd run across a fine National Park Ranger named Chris Dumas. Chris taught us an excellent, humorous bear song which I remembered well. While banging on that skillet I sang that silly bear song so loudly and so horrible that the poor bear 🐻 bolted off into the forest never to return. Legend has it the bear is still running in the wildnerness from that insanely obnoxious giant Boy Scout with the lethal 3,500 grain skillet.
Shortly after returning back home to Kansas, I was awarded the rank of Eagle Scout in a very formal ceremony with much ado and with all my neighbors, relatives, Scout Troop, etc. in attendance. It's a big deal earning the rank of Eagle, and only 4% of Scouts achieve it. During this ceremony, to my great surprise, I was also formally presented with brand new award never before seen - it was a yellow and brown bear faced patch sewn onto a swatch of the green canvas bag which the bear in Canada had torn open with its claws. Two sides of this green canvas swatch were actually torn edges from the bear claw. LOLO - I was presented this auspicious award for singing so badly I could scare a bear away 😜, and I don't think I've ever sung so well since. That patch remains to this day on my official BSA award sash, and I'll always cherish it as my favorite.
Man what a story! A completely different situation than mine and by the sound, much more intense!
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience!
@@ITW.Firearms Thanks for responding
@@ITW.Firearms I liked your story a lot. I really thought you were going to have to engage the Griz with your Henry. I wish with all my heart I could own one of those, but no longer. I'm a felon for life now for keeping my solemn military Oath to protect the Constitution. I stood up to the Feds in a way which I thought would earn us either freedom or a plastic body bag; instead, I was taken down and imprisoned for 17 months. While locked up I saved a guard's life and they let me go. Now, I have no rights as a citizen even though I was willing to lay down my life for freedom and liberty. That's tyranny for you. At least I can look my kids in the eye without shame. No one can ever say to me if / when they live under communist tyranny, "why didn't you keep your Oath?" Cherish your Garand and your Henry and whatever else you own, cuz someday you might have to use it for something far worse than an ill-tempered Griz.
Love the Henry, but I also like the New Marlins by Ruger.
Great story man!
Thanks for listening
I carry the rossi 92 in 44 magnum 16" barrel and on my chest is the taurus m44 magnum. I had a 36 round leather ammo belt made in mexico.
What a great story.
Thank you for watching!
Good, thx
Awesome story brother
Thank you so much
Salute 🫡 awesome video
I really appreciate it
Please let me know where you got a left handed lever gun? I cannot find such a thing and would pay dearly for one
It is a standard. Video is inverted. My apologies
Is that a left hand action?! I would love that!
I have not ever seen a left-handed ejection level action rifle either! 🤠
it is a standard. i made the mistake of recording on selfie mode