"Sauron is so shocked how easy everything is that he has to argue against his own interest to make sure it's not a prank." That's an hilariously apt description of the events unfolding before our very eyes 😂
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 Except if that's what they were trying to do then it backfired quite horribly because, you know, Dark Lord, One Ring, death and destruction etc. etc.
Writer's room: what if we do a new take on Sauron as a character. We'll deconstruct his character and delight audiences with what makes this truly formidable villain tick. And there's a twist! It will turn out that Sauron wasn't actually very talented at the manipulations he was known to be talented at. It's all a story about him. He's actually more of an aimless wanderer who struggles to get what he wants, which is why he has to make these rings eventually - finally people will listen to him once he has this power over flesh. But... Get this! Sauron actually also has very little agency as a character. He's highly suggestible because he's aimless. He's like a leaf blowing wherever the winds take him. An antagonist with very little agency who is just shaped by others and by coincidence and circumstances - it's a brilliant idea!
Thank you for doing this lol, Throughout the entire show, both my husband and I couldn’t help but wonder how could anyone be satisfied or possibly enjoy it. It came across as a last minute, poorly improvised production.. lets just put random scenes and events stitched together to hit the one-hour mark. Seriously calling it garbage might even be too kind.
Your breakdown points out the obvious flaws and absolute stupidity with every single aspect of this show it reminds me of AI generated stories where AI will come up with the most cliche plot devices just to reach a conclusion
Show Sauron never had to do anything. The Elves are leaving, because they are suddenly all dying. The Dwarves don't seem to care what's happening outside their caves. Men are so pathetic in the show. The Orcs are executing his plan to light up Mount Doom whatsoever. Adar is no threat to Sauron with his what? Fifty Orcs?
@@eugene8498 watch the show if you want but cliff note the source (unless ur a nerd for it too)it’s only entertaining to me because I know the story so well I can compare it
@@RawnervzzI don't get it. By source do you mean Tokien? My comment has nothing to do with the source. Because the show has nothing to do with the source. In the books the elves aren't dying without the rings. In the show they made the changes for no good reason and wrote themselves into a laughable corner.
@@eugene8498 yes I mean the books and they are taking liberty, but they’re still following the skeleton of it. I wasn’t saying it as a critique just discussing the show and the material a.k.a. books. They got me through a difficult time. I might have already said I think it’s funny everybody is making fun of the show. I still watch it because I’m a nerd for the stuff and I’ll take what I can get, willing to do it that way on like I said, his greatest evil and Pharzon was bad but his ego took Sauron hostage and Sauron had the ring and against them to make human sacrifices by burning people alive, burning the tree of Gondor only it was not Gondor, and that literally brought wrath saying that brought more guys down upon them and it fell into the sea like the vision in the show so if they’re doing it that way, but I wouldn’t be bringing back there’s five season he even have a ring yet Again, if I didn’t clarify for you feel free to circle back and I’ll edit it or make another comment. I didn’t proofread. I apologize.
@@Rawnervzz What RoP has left is a twisted and fractured skeleton that's deformed from a horse to an alien from Alien. Such a downgrade from the source. The Numenoreans are so weak in this, they hate the elves not because they are too proud to accept mortality, but because the elves take their job! I watch it to mock it. I'm glad people are having fun, in whatever way.
@@eugene8498 yeah I don’t think it should’ve been attempted when all they have is an accounting and a few sentences and no dialogue. People are going to spit all over it even if they stayed true to a skeleton of sentences And they’re talking about diversity, but they have a wizard in the east and they cast the white guy. Finally they can fulfill their diversity quoted without fucking it up and they fuck it up believe me I understand but the new one. W Durin high on ring crank what besides that it was paced and engaging and I hope they learn from it if the show is going to continue, but it’s still funny And I’m a kid in the candy store just having anybody to talk to about it
I've studied film and television for over 15 years and this show takes the crown for the worst script I've ever come across. But it's even worse than that: it's boring too
now that I think bout it, as a maia -angelic being- he uses a physical form to interact with the world... why did he turned into a black slime after being stabbed? he's a fire spirit after all, disembodied flame would make more sense
How could Amazon give these show runners the job without proof of their passion or talent? This is why you shoot shorts for everyone to see how good you do.
There are countless talented writers who get their scripts refused every day. Hollywood is utterly corrupt. Corporate entertainment is the death of art.
This show was designed as rage bait…I have insider knowledge…once you understand that it’s supposed to (subtly) piss you off (while being *technically* lore accurate [but not really]) then it all makes sense :)
would've been more interesting if it turns out if Sauron had somewhat different plans for the Rings but Celerinbor contributed more ideas accidentally which were picked up by Sauron LOL
Pretty much every video about this show brings up something new stupid thing that all the other videos haven't mentioned yet. I wonder how long a video it would be to list all the problems with this show... Would it take the lifetime of an elf to watch it?
Annatar reveals himself as an emissary of the Valar and admits that he lied about being a mortal man and lied about being a lost king of the Southlands, but Celebrimbor doesn't ask.... WHY The first thing I do when someone reveals they've lied to me repeatedly to serve zero purpose is to carry on as if they are 100% trustworthy.
I just still can't get past how the elves do not look or act like elves. They look just like humans. The writing is atrocious. The characters are horrible (particularly Galadriel, Gil Galad, Celebrimbor, and Isildur). Sauron is not even a major threat. The Numenoreans don't look or behave like Numenoreans. The lore has been gutted, the timeline has been ignored, and the sequence of events has been completely messed up. Even their original characters, who they had the most room to develop in an interesting way, are some of the most inconsequential or just bad and annoying/stupid ones (I'm looking at you Harfoots and Theo). Even the costumes are terrible. How is the production on this show $1bill?? This looks like a Uwe Boll project..
I just wanted to make a comment because I was just correcting it based on book which I know very well because it got me through a hard time according to show you’re absolutely right, but I think as they circle back with making him anatar which seem to be a last-minute decision Probably gonna bring him to numenor When he saw it, h hated their power so much. It literally put him back to his old self fuck bringing order. I’m gonna bring this place down and sacrifice one of his abilities to do it. It’s really important to the story, including Lord of the rings that’s why the heir to numenor rose to be basically his nemesis. I’m sure they won’t do it exactly that way, but I think they will do it to some degree
Awesome I have been told it’s not the books a lot and it’s true but my gut says it’ll get more accurate as they have more to work with But I wanted to personally let you know I shoulda /proofread/ and been more clear Thx for letting me be part of the discussion
For a moment I thought you said Sauron's plan was to come out of the FUDGE and I instantly had a 50 Shades of Grey version of this sequence in my head xD The worst thing, however, is that it will most likely at some point be created, considering the state of modern entertainment...
I think the whole show is a sad excuse for milking money off of lotr, how the writers and actors constantly failing in their roles seriously what a bunch of clowns. Theres no logical transitions Inbetween scenes, no sense of time frame, no clear timeline, no character development so characters lack depth and growth. I absolutely agree with you its very frustrating, key events happen without explanation, it's a challenge to engage with it and fully understand the narrative. it hard to digest.. like why is she not doing anything ? how can celebcucumber be so stupid ? Why are we not seeing how the rings are forged ? ITS ABOUT THE RINGS!! its not like its mysterious, its just poorly written! Such a Stepdown. They're basically shitting on Tolkien's legacy. The depth and nuance that made his work timeless are completely absent, its a shallow interpretation that feels like a disservice to the complex world he created. Disappointing and truly a lame shame
There is unrest in the city because Galadriel forced Sauron and the Queen to go to war (she decided he was King for some reason and the Queen just went along with it). Eärien started the coup because she accidentally stumbled upon the palantír. Pharazôn became king because a random eagle appeared. It would have been incredible if Sauron had been in the city manipulating people all the time instead of all this silliness. His contribution to the fall of Númenor will probably be very limited, like his involvement in the forging of the rings. He didn't really start any of it, everything just magically falls into place for him.
@@Preplot true but I’m going based on the source material which obviously they’ve taken liberties but I think they’re gonna come back around I think it’s his show and this material is evidence of his greatest crime which is the downfall numeral. Do you think it’s bad now he makes it very very. Evil
"Sauron is so shocked how easy everything is that he has to argue against his own interest to make sure it's not a prank."
That's an hilariously apt description of the events unfolding before our very eyes 😂
what if the plot twist in the end is that everyone is pretending to be stupid
and Sauron is being manipulated
that would be epic LOL
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 Except if that's what they were trying to do then it backfired quite horribly because, you know, Dark Lord, One Ring, death and destruction etc. etc.
Your sarcasm is delightful. Thank you for explaining the plot to me. I was lost like an upside down rock under the sea.
….but rock can only see downwards… 😆
Writer's room: what if we do a new take on Sauron as a character. We'll deconstruct his character and delight audiences with what makes this truly formidable villain tick. And there's a twist! It will turn out that Sauron wasn't actually very talented at the manipulations he was known to be talented at. It's all a story about him. He's actually more of an aimless wanderer who struggles to get what he wants, which is why he has to make these rings eventually - finally people will listen to him once he has this power over flesh. But... Get this! Sauron actually also has very little agency as a character. He's highly suggestible because he's aimless. He's like a leaf blowing wherever the winds take him. An antagonist with very little agency who is just shaped by others and by coincidence and circumstances - it's a brilliant idea!
Okay, "Mountains are crumbling after the font change" got me.
Saoron is my by far the fav character in this show. At least he has a goal and is achieving checkpoints.
He’s charismatic and fun to watch. Hope he wins.
This channel makes so many good points, and yet only 3.37 subscribers?
Galadriel rather manipulated him. She is the main villain.
Thank you for doing this lol, Throughout the entire show, both my husband and I couldn’t help but wonder how could anyone be satisfied or possibly enjoy it. It came across as a last minute, poorly improvised production.. lets just put random scenes and events stitched together to hit the one-hour mark. Seriously calling it garbage might even be too kind.
Your breakdown points out the obvious flaws and absolute stupidity with every single aspect of this show it reminds me of AI generated stories where AI will come up with the most cliche plot devices just to reach a conclusion
Sauron the supermassive plot hole😂 this show is irredeemable
The exploding water was Ulmo saying. Hey bro, in the lore the elven rings are harmless. The whole magic Mithril story is BS.
Show Sauron never had to do anything.
The Elves are leaving, because they are suddenly all dying.
The Dwarves don't seem to care what's happening outside their caves.
Men are so pathetic in the show.
The Orcs are executing his plan to light up Mount Doom whatsoever.
Adar is no threat to Sauron with his what? Fifty Orcs?
@@eugene8498 watch the show if you want but cliff note the source (unless ur a nerd for it too)it’s only entertaining to me because I know the story so well I can compare it
@@RawnervzzI don't get it. By source do you mean Tokien? My comment has nothing to do with the source. Because the show has nothing to do with the source.
In the books the elves aren't dying without the rings. In the show they made the changes for no good reason and wrote themselves into a laughable corner.
@@eugene8498 yes I mean the books and they are taking liberty, but they’re still following the skeleton of it. I wasn’t saying it as a critique just discussing the show and the material a.k.a. books. They got me through a difficult time. I might have already said I think it’s funny everybody is making fun of the show. I still watch it because I’m a nerd for the stuff and I’ll take what I can get, willing to do it that way on like I said, his greatest evil and Pharzon was bad but his ego took Sauron hostage and Sauron had the ring and against them to make human sacrifices by burning people alive, burning the tree of Gondor only it was not Gondor, and that literally brought wrath saying that brought more guys down upon them and it fell into the sea like the vision in the show so if they’re doing it that way, but I wouldn’t be bringing back there’s five season he even have a ring yet
Again, if I didn’t clarify for you feel free to circle back and I’ll edit it or make another comment. I didn’t proofread. I apologize.
@@Rawnervzz What RoP has left is a twisted and fractured skeleton that's deformed from a horse to an alien from Alien. Such a downgrade from the source. The Numenoreans are so weak in this, they hate the elves not because they are too proud to accept mortality, but because the elves take their job! I watch it to mock it. I'm glad people are having fun, in whatever way.
@@eugene8498 yeah I don’t think it should’ve been attempted when all they have is an accounting and a few sentences and no dialogue. People are going to spit all over it even if they stayed true to a skeleton of sentences
And they’re talking about diversity, but they have a wizard in the east and they cast the white guy. Finally they can fulfill their diversity quoted without fucking it up and they fuck it up believe me I understand but the new one. W Durin high on ring crank what besides that it was paced and engaging and I hope they learn from it if the show is going to continue, but it’s still funny
And I’m a kid in the candy store just having anybody to talk to about it
Glad you're back! Your analyses are equally brilliant and hilarious 😂
I've studied film and television for over 15 years and this show takes the crown for the worst script I've ever come across. But it's even worse than that: it's boring too
"i clapped" 😂
now that I think bout it, as a maia -angelic being- he uses a physical form to interact with the world... why did he turned into a black slime after being stabbed? he's a fire spirit after all, disembodied flame would make more sense
How could Amazon give these show runners the job without proof of their passion or talent?
This is why you shoot shorts for everyone to see how good you do.
There are countless talented writers who get their scripts refused every day. Hollywood is utterly corrupt. Corporate entertainment is the death of art.
This show was designed as rage bait…I have insider knowledge…once you understand that it’s supposed to (subtly) piss you off (while being *technically* lore accurate [but not really]) then it all makes sense :)
“I have insider knowledge” lol
Great to see you're back
"Evil does not sleep."
"Evil took a nap."🤣
would've been more interesting if it turns out if Sauron had somewhat different plans for the Rings
but Celerinbor contributed more ideas accidentally which were picked up by Sauron LOL
Ça fait plaisir de voir des français expliquer pourquoi ce show est à chier :) thanks
Pretty much every video about this show brings up something new stupid thing that all the other videos haven't mentioned yet.
I wonder how long a video it would be to list all the problems with this show...
Would it take the lifetime of an elf to watch it?
He looks like Brian Connoly from the" sweet" a 1960s glamrockband
I've watched a lot of sarcastic plot summaries of this show, and this might just be the best one.
All waters in middle earth are under the influence of Ulmo, practically Poseidon. So Sauro has nothing to do with the sea is allways right.
Annatar reveals himself as an emissary of the Valar and admits that he lied about being a mortal man and lied about being a lost king of the Southlands, but Celebrimbor doesn't ask.... WHY
The first thing I do when someone reveals they've lied to me repeatedly to serve zero purpose is to carry on as if they are 100% trustworthy.
I just still can't get past how the elves do not look or act like elves. They look just like humans. The writing is atrocious. The characters are horrible (particularly Galadriel, Gil Galad, Celebrimbor, and Isildur). Sauron is not even a major threat. The Numenoreans don't look or behave like Numenoreans. The lore has been gutted, the timeline has been ignored, and the sequence of events has been completely messed up. Even their original characters, who they had the most room to develop in an interesting way, are some of the most inconsequential or just bad and annoying/stupid ones (I'm looking at you Harfoots and Theo). Even the costumes are terrible. How is the production on this show $1bill?? This looks like a Uwe Boll project..
Dwarves a hungry fellas
Great summary
Adar is a totally invented character and story line.
I just wanted to make a comment because I was just correcting it based on book which I know very well because it got me through a hard time according to show you’re absolutely right, but I think as they circle back with making him anatar which seem to be a last-minute decision
Probably gonna bring him to numenor
When he saw it, h hated their power so much. It literally put him back to his old self fuck bringing order. I’m gonna bring this place down and sacrifice one of his abilities to do it. It’s really important to the story, including Lord of the rings that’s why the heir to numenor rose to be basically his nemesis.
I’m sure they won’t do it exactly that way, but I think they will do it to some degree
Awesome I have been told it’s not the books a lot and it’s true but my gut says it’ll get more accurate as they have more to work with
But I wanted to personally let you know I shoulda /proofread/ and been more clear
Thx for letting me be part of the discussion
For a moment I thought you said Sauron's plan was to come out of the FUDGE and I instantly had a 50 Shades of Grey version of this sequence in my head xD The worst thing, however, is that it will most likely at some point be created, considering the state of modern entertainment...
🇫🇷 💪
David & Dan are 1000 times better than these fools of a showrunners...
I think the whole show is a sad excuse for milking money off of lotr, how the writers and actors constantly failing in their roles seriously what a bunch of clowns. Theres no logical transitions Inbetween scenes, no sense of time frame, no clear timeline, no character development so characters lack depth and growth.
I absolutely agree with you its very frustrating, key events happen without explanation, it's a challenge to engage with it and fully understand the narrative. it hard to digest.. like why is she not doing anything ? how can celebcucumber be so stupid ? Why are we not seeing how the rings are forged ? ITS ABOUT THE RINGS!! its not like its mysterious, its just poorly written!
Such a Stepdown. They're basically shitting on Tolkien's legacy. The depth and nuance that made his work timeless are completely absent, its a shallow interpretation that feels like a disservice to the complex world he created. Disappointing and truly a lame shame
The elf ears that look fake af @0:33 were a huge giveaway but none heeded their warning :D
Eru Iluvatar: "‘Eä! Let these things Be!’" and thus bringing the universe.
Sauron: "Alloy" and thus bringing the rings of power.
This was all astrology
Astrology is a synonym for bullshit, so yes, exactly
Did they change the actor that plays Sauron?
He had a different look before the orcs killed him, so he was temporarily played by a different actor. The actor playing Adar has changed.
Absolutely awesome to just name what happens in sequence and show what a dumb contrived nonsense this all is. ❤
I don’t know if you miss spoke Sauron did design the downfall Numenore I’m just assuming they haven’t got there yet
There is unrest in the city because Galadriel forced Sauron and the Queen to go to war (she decided he was King for some reason and the Queen just went along with it). Eärien started the coup because she accidentally stumbled upon the palantír. Pharazôn became king because a random eagle appeared. It would have been incredible if Sauron had been in the city manipulating people all the time instead of all this silliness. His contribution to the fall of Númenor will probably be very limited, like his involvement in the forging of the rings. He didn't really start any of it, everything just magically falls into place for him.
@@Preplot true but I’m going based on the source material which obviously they’ve taken liberties but I think they’re gonna come back around
I think it’s his show and this material is evidence of his greatest crime which is the downfall numeral. Do you think it’s bad now he makes it very very. Evil
C' est un accent français ça?
Oui
@@Preplot Cool...Bonne vidéo!
Cute.
This is all BS but not Tolkien.
Ulmo thaught, ehat the hell do I do with these three ugly rings. Keep them
It is soooo dumb
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