No no I am not going to watch it on a plane , I will not watch it on a train , I will not watch it with a fox on a box with sock , I will not watch episode 1 jonnylaw I am .
Can we bring up the fact that in rop, the Hobbits leave their injured behind to starve to death and happily eat bugs, and orcs don't want to go to war because they care for their families.
Let's all just forget that orcs were made in mockery of elves, as Ents were made in mockery of trolls. Treebeard, himself, literally SAYS SO in the book! They were bred to be evil. Orcs are the best bad guys in the film world, and they've been turned into sniveling, crying weaklings who just want to settle down, have kids, and get a mortgage on a new house.
Basic and easy summary of second age story. Sauron been missing, shows up as Annatar. Annatar gets booted out by Galadriel and Gil-galad for being untrustworthy However Celebrimbor decides to work alongside him They spend years figuring out how to craft them, making dozens of minor rings Nine are eventually made for men, seven for dwarves In secret Celebrimbor makes the three for elves, unsullied by Sauron's influence Meanwhile Sauron secretly forges the one ring and once complete resumes his place as the dark lord When Sauron put the one ring on his finger, the elves felt this power and quickly hide the other rings Sauron angry seiged and tore down down Eregion captured Celebrimbor Under torture, Celebrimbor reveals where the nine and seven are but not ever mentions where the three are He is than skinned or at least his body is used as a flag, maybe both. So they couldn't even get this story flow right. THEY HAVE FCKED THIS VERY BASIC STORY FLOW! You can't have Sauron knowing of the elven rings else the elves would have fallen for his plan and been under his influence. Middle earth would have been fcked. You good dam muppets, It's not even that difficult to get that basic flow for a story. How did you manage this? You could read the fcking wikipedia article and understand more than Amazon does about the second age.
@MajorSmurf Thank You! My brother couldn't understand why I barely tolerated five minutes of the first episode. Oh, I don't know, maybe because I read the effing books and spent half a decade of my life dedicated to reading Tolkien. The man was a genius, yet just like other genius's of his time, they're being erased and replaced with wacko people who think they know better because they saw some kind of clip or something one time back in middle school.
Imagine not knowing anything form the books. Then you watch this show (😂) and decide “Man , I’d like to know more about all this let me check out the source material” 💀
Incorrect though. There are never any rings made for men or dwarves, Sauron simply gives them to men and dwarves once his plan to enslave elves with them fails because their own rings (he was unaware of at the time) alerted them to the presence of the one. He collects the rings he will eventually give to men and dwarves when he sacks eregion but is unable to find the 3 because the numenoreans turn up and drive him out. The reason the rings work on men and not dwarves is because men, like elves are the creation of Eru while Dwarves were not.
Besides the writing being so bad it's painful to the ear, Galadriel's gift was discernment. She could literally see inside a person. There is no way she would not have recognized Sauron on sight. There is just no story. It's so bad it's insulting.
The Galadriel being presented here isn't a Galadriel that actually exists in the lore. It's also interesting to note that she and Elrond are actually related. Of course the show won't make mention of this, but that's not really the issue when Galadriel is actually one of the oldest Elves on Middle Earth, because she was actually born in Valinor. And they counted time differently in Valinor then, because there was no Sun yet. The years were longer. Compared to Galadriel Elrond is a child at every stage of his life. Of course this is not a story that Amazon would tell you. It's a Tolkien legend.
@@leviticusprime4904 Are they? It's not a franchise. The movies are all that exists. Or the books, if you prefer. Everything else is fan-fiction. See, easy.
I mean, in fairness, that's maybe one of the less-egregious bits of this mess, because Tolkien did at least mention, at some point, the orcs going into the mountains & reproducing, I can't remember how he said/wrote it exactly, but I think he even said there must be female orcs. But, the part that gets me is them not wanting to go to war & being caring husbands & fathers. THAT is truly where the line was crossed. I don't think it would have been terrible to have a female orc &/or a baby/young orc, it's just the part where they make them out to be compassionate, caring, normal guys, basically, that gets me.
@zzevonplant There is a scane in LotR where two orcs discuss about wanting to leave the Dark Lord's army with a bunch of their mates, head somewhere far from the war and do their own thing. To be fair, their thing probably involves looting, fighting and killing, but they want to do that stuff for themselves rather rhan in the glory of some dark master. Maybe I'm reading the scene with the orc family wrong but I didn't interpret it as saying that the orcs suddenly became good, peaceful etc. They don't want to go to war against men and elves (because that gets them killed) but it doesn't mean they would be all peaceful and lovely if they stayed in Mordor - there are literal slaves there, remember? They still want to do selfish and nasty things, they just want to do them home rather than out there
@@moon-moth1that race has been gnociding accross the planet for as long as they have been a distinct race. In broad terms you can say all of them are evil without turning it into a allegory. The real world and the current thing doesn't need to flow into every nook and cranny of escapism. I understand that his works are supposed to be a modern recreated mythology for England but "modern" as in his time. If we want to create our own modern thing, we should definitely go and do that. Oh wait that already exists, Warcraft. The Orcs in that setting started out as shamanistic tribes, got tricked into drinking demon's blood wich turned them into the gnocidal monsters we expect from a Tolkien's Orc. And then the first Orc who drank that demon's blood sacrificed himself while killing said demon. "I have freed myself" he says, as he dies in the arms of Thrall. Thrall replies "No, You have freed us all" and lets out a mighty growl that echoes accross the canyon they've been fighting the demon in. He then leads the Orcs into the most desolate land he could find as atonement for their sins. This is a modern story/mythology that isn't a fanfiction of Tolkien. We don't need to butcher and edit older works to fit our current thing. We can write things for our current thing.
Commander of the northern armies, wife to a murdered husband, sister to a murdered brother, and i have a tempest in me, in this badly written scene and the next.
"Commodified fantasy takes no risks: it invents nothing, but imitates and trivializes. It proceeds by depriving the old stories of their intellectual and ethical complexity, turning their action to violence, their actors to dolls, and their truth-telling to sentimental platitude. Heroes brandish their swords, lasers, wands, as mechanically as combine harvesters, reaping profits. Profoundly disturbing moral choices are sanitized, made cute, made safe. The passionately conceived idea of the great storytellers are copied, stereotyped, reduced to toys, molded in bright-colored plastic, advertised, sold, broken, junked, replaceable, interchangeable." -Ursula K. LeGuin
We are seeing a lack of good storytelling in Hollywood. Up until about the ,90s, the story was a priority, and that's why the best films have endured the test of time, remaining popular for generations of movie watchers. Instead of good stories, likeable characters, and realistic dialog, we get reboots of old franchises that should have ended long ago, when they were still good. Nobody will remember or care about this Amazon trash pile that makes a mockery of everything Tolkien ever wrote.
Is it nickpicking to point out that the name Sauron was a mockery of his original name (the abhorred) given by the Eldar, and Meiron wouldn't have used that name for himself, but then totally did in the first episode of Season 2? How did the show writers not know this simple fact?
I find it hilarious that Scamdalf could hardly say a word in the first season, he was basically an infant in an old man's body, but suddenly he's talking in full sentences (as painful as they are to listen to) and desperately trying to sound super wise.
its crazy under what circumstances the LotR movies were created and how awesome they turned out to be, rings of power is drowning in ressources and ends up like this, its insanity.
It is and it isn't. Hollywood is so out of touch, they are so left wing they just hire people based on race and gender, they dont give a shit about a resume. A gay black man ranks higher than an actual Tolkien fans that has read the books 30 times each. Liberalism is a disease and kills everything it touches.
The dude that goes on a small tangent about all the names he gets in various parts of the world, except east cause amazon delivery doesn't take him to those parts. Edit: It would be like calling Gollum the "Lord of gifts" just cause he mentioned a birthday present a few times in the stories.
"Commanders of the Northern Armies" is a Gladiator ripoff: My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, etc..." RoP dialogue is full of ripoffs from non-LoTR movies,
"... and she bore a mark from birth from He who must not be identified by name. The dragon Thompson Riddle and his rider, Darth Spoc-itus." My prediction for the next episode.
Cirdan building a boat in (essentially) his basement, just like Leroy Jethro Gibbs in the earlier seasons of NCIS - complete with the same size, the fact that all that's ever shown worked on is running a hand planer over already smooth planks, and the small little detail that the boat is still too large to ever get out of the house. LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME! That they completely misunderstand both the scale of the craft that befalls a _shipwright_ and the difference between a _boat_ and a _ship_ is I guess already understood as fact, yes?
In the raft scenes of the first season, they have already showed that they lack even the most basic understanding of how sailing works. I especially loved how "Galadriel" wrapped a random rope around her hand (boat safety 101... nice) while trying to coil it and tie it off at the same time, looking irritated and disoriented, her body language just screaming "I have no clue what I'm doing and the clowns who direct me don't know either" to the audience. Not to mention the hilarious meme of how RoP makers think ships look below the waterline.
She was the wrong actress for the job and mostly it isn't even her fault. The directing is so bad. I was dumbfounded when I saw one of her short interviews where she displayed more emotions and facial expressions than in her whole stint in RoP. That's not really her fault. She can't see her own face while she's acting, someone has to tell her to show more expression in her work.
@@whitegoose2017 Hah no she is just bad. This is what happens when you blow your budget on special effects and cheap out on the actors. Matter of fact just about all the actors in this show are amateur at best. But Morfydd is god awful.
@@childofthemist6174 Actually.. I disagree with you. I'll give you my thoughts as to why. It just starts with whoever is in charge of this mess. The two showrunners. They are inexperienced and don't have any expertise. What are their qualifications again? What big projects they worked on and were in charge of before they got this gig? NOTHING. No. You can't really blame the employees in this situation when the bosses don't know what the ef they are doing..
And it REALLY could have been great, they had every imaginable advantage. They have a built-in devoted fanbase, access to use parts of (arguably) the greatest works of fiction ever written, one of the biggest platforms in the world on which to release this thing, AND a *massive* budget. And all they had to do to not ruin this thing out of the gate was preserve the essence of the story - they didn't have to get all the lore perfectly, Jackson didn't & most people loved those films, but he kept the soul of the story intact, the messages/ideas remained in place. And they had to write it well, just make it compelling, interesting, & not a miserable experience to sit through. That's the BARE minimum & that's all they had to do. And they just couldn't even do that. 🤦🏻♀️😭
She was really good in Saint Maud...the script, writing, and stifling "don't you dare go off script even for a second' directors render anything other than "Yup. here for the check and trying not to roll my eyes, possible.
All I see when they show the rigns is those machines in supermarkets from when I was a kid. You put your 20c in, turned the handle and a plastic egg with a tacky toy inside dropped out. Sometimes it was a ring! Which you thought was fabulously beautiful ... at the age of five. 💍😅
If the writers knew enough about the lore to hide it as easter eggs it shows they aren't ignorant of it, they are contemptuous of it. Watching the show fail is entertaining.
first episode of season 1 turned me off straight away. as soon as i saw Galadriel in armor i thought about when she went to recuse Gandolf from the Nazgûl wearing a sheer dress and bare feet! she didn't need armor and that is what was so cool about her! I felt like the people who wrote the show never watched the movies let alone read the books. which i would have thought would have been a requirement for anyone taking the job...
I like how the commander of the northern armies have no staff what so ever and never interact with any kind of military structure. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a northern border at all.
What, you mean a commander of multiple armies doesn't just ride around alone leading forces into combat from the front line and kicking ass? What is this "staff" of which you speak? Is it the same as the one Grand-elf is looking for perchance?
@@justforever96 No no, everyone knows that the one with the highest kill count lead the army, so of course the generals have to fight the most, otherwise someone might surpass them. Well, almost, except hers vibrate rather than swallow.
Noone has brought up the fact that Poppy was the ONLY harfoot who could read the map, and they left her there to guide the Harfeets around safely. But then Poppy just abandons them and takes the map with her. Also I noticed every single storyline got a new female character shoehorned in just the first 3 episodes (except Numenor but they already had a Karen who was waiting to be a strong woman at the end of ep3) Celembrembor got a female elf assistant, the Orcs got a woman AND a baby, Isildur came across some random lady and started travelling with her, and the dwarves got TWO female dwarves who suddenly appeared to sing with Disa for the first time. Now if the masked horseperson chasing Gandalf turns out to be a woman, then it would be a strong wahman for every race this season
The idea that she couldn't make a copy of the map and then teach someone else to read it, in the literal months/years the RoP show seems to imply happens so quickly, I am confused as to why you think that's a problem. There are REAL problems with the show. That isn't one of them, unless you're going out of your way to plug your ears, blind your eyes, and mentally handicap your brain so you purposefully can't think through it.
"The Orcs got a woman AND a baby" So you haven't even seen the show, but instead base all the main characters around youtuber grifter memes? Yikes. The woman and baby didn't even really exist in the show. They were there for like 3 literal seconds, without any lines, as minor items for the actual real character of the male orc who has a few scenes in the show as a sortof 2nd in command to his "Father". You made a statement as if those are two brand new characters, the same as all the leading female cast (which you had a point on, but lost that point when you proved you are just repeating memes like a brainless sheep who only watches youtubers bc you dont even have your own thoughts or opinions)
I have heard that some people say this season is better than season 1. That's like saying hey my shit harder than Diarrhea, so major improvements........shit is shit.
Every shot is f about the same length, and the camera always moves at the same pace. There is no cadence in the editing, so there is no sense of movement or speed, or emotional charge. It’s just the same dull, slow pace, shot after shot after shot. Even the zooms don’t break the dirge rhythm. It was actually fascinating to confirm this element of dullness, because I couldn’t believe ANYONE would edit this way, let alone a big-money series. 😮
You didn't watch either season, so why would anyone care what you think? If we want your opinion, we can just go online to watch some alt-right youtuber cry about the one scene that was actually accurate with Tolkien's work. I love RoP exclusively bc it caused a ton of fake "tolkien fans" to self-out. Peter Jackson didn't write LOTR despite what all these frauds think.
@nowayjosedaniel taken right out of the leftist playbook if people don't agree with you insult, degrade, and cry at them. We have an opinion and you don't like it so we are wrong. So tolerant so brave...haha cry harder.
You just straight up admitted you hate a series you've never watched, exclusively because a bunch of youtubers told you it was bad. I don't think you want to actually brag about not thinking for yourself. Yikes! That's not the brag you think it is.
at this point, Galadriel and Sauron are definitely endgame 🤣🤣 they'll settle into Mordor, diy the place, and the orcs can move in and live happily ever after 🙃
using Hampsterdance to lighten the pain you feel on seeing this series shit on everything good is a wonderful choice, thank you for making me laugh lol
Galadriel in RoP is a secret villain. Her stubborn pride and self-righteousness single handedly led to the the return of Sauron, the destruction of Numenor, the creation of Mordor, and all the hardship to follow for the next couple thousand years. She thinks she is better than everyone else and when she is confronted about her flaws and mistakes, she takes zero ownership or accountability. It is a total bastardization of the character
The funniest part about Guyladriel's "battle plan" is that the entirety of Mordor is already on their east side. Unless they want to circumnavigate either the mountains of Ered Lithui or Ephel Duath, the ONLY possible way to invade Mordror is from its west side. What a chad commander of the Northern armies.
"No one can give you a name." - The Stranger, Rings of Power... Bullshit they can't, allow me to Tolkien the writers for a moment. Olórin: Gandalf's original Maia name. Mithrandir: given to him by the Elves. Tharkûn: given by the Dwarves. Gandalf the Grey: His most common known, given originally by the men of Arnor a name he continued to use in Gondor Greyhame: given to by the people of Rohan. Incarnus: Gandalf's name in The South. Gandalf the White/The White Rider: Given after his return Grey Fool/Stormcrow/Láthspell: An insulting nickname given to Gandalf by other characters.
Gandalf the Grey: Ignore all those examples, no one can give you a name... "Gandalf many names slips into an Schizophrenia fuelled incoherent raving about names"
"Normies make everything ugly and boring". Once upon a time, I would not have believed that. I wanted more people loving the things I loved, to see how beautiful and fascinating they were. And then I watched every fictional world I loved in the last 20 to 50 years fall apart, because they failed to resist being made ugly and boring by the invaders. I hit the Like before this point because of funny lines. I wasn't expecting a fundamental truth of the horror of this world to hit me. There's a study called "World3" that implies our western civilisation will end in about 2040 (and that's not even a left-vs-right politics thing, that's looking at metrics like birth rate, death rate, agricultural output, pollution, non-renewable resources, industrial output). I am now perfectly prepared to believe (or at least work as if) the Seventh Age will end in about sixteen years. Apart from the fact I'm not self-sufficient yet, I'm kinda wishing it would just get here faster.
Galadriel did fight and she did have military experience, and she was a bit of a hotshot (Noldorin blood is strong)--at the beginning of the First Age. We're in mid-Second Age now. She wised up pretty damn quickly living through a literal apocalypse, like all the other elves who survived it. Also she's tall and I will never forgive not casting Gwendoline Christie as this younger Galadriel. Anyway I hate everything about RoP lmao
Gil-Galad and Elrond should be worshiping the ground Galadriel walks on. Alongside Cirdan she is the wisest Elf in Middle Earth at this point. This show makes her beaten down by Gil-Galad, disrespected by Elrond and frankly: she deserves it. She’s short sighted, brash, cannot even take responsibility for her own mistakes, petulant and a plethora of other negatives. But no, *WE* are the Misogynists, not Amazon that made her this way.
Kudos for changing your bet sheet regularly. It's always nice to find a role model on YT triggering personal goals that could realistically be achieved. ;)
Around last season Rings of Power fans were also trying to promote the idea that Galadriel got her magical powers from Nenya. She didn't. Tolkien straight up said that Rings of Power could not grant anyone wholly new powers they didn't have before, but only enhance what they already had. He also said in Unfinished Tales that Galadriel's magical power and especially her power of insight into the minds of others was evident "from her earliest years". According to the Silmarillion she also spent some years learning and honing her magical abilities with her Aunt, Melian in the Firs Age. The series seems to be doubling down on this erroneous idea though so expect them to start saying it again.
"Noone can give you a name" is a classic line and will be quoted endlessly - along with "why does a stone sink" - to illustrate the sheer unthinking stupidity of these writers. Never forget : they had a real Tolkien expert on their team, they didn't need to memorise the books - but they fired him very early on.
Seeing as how you people think Orcs being former Elves (having families) & Orcs not wanting to goto war is somehow not Tolkien, despite the fact it's the most Tolkien of the entire RoP series, makes me think absolutely nothing you people think is based on reality. It's all based on mindlessly following youtube grifters who just tell you what feels good in your emotions.
@nowayjosedaniel The Orcs are specifically designed to be reviled. They are irredeemably evil (at least from the standpoint of Elves and Men), and in every description of them Tolkien makes note of the fact that their only pleasure is in causing pain and suffering to other life. They are selfish, sadistic, and pitiless. The reason that having an Orc family is so ridiculous is because of what such a scenario requires of the individuals. Orcs show no love or affection, no sense of self-sacrifice or altruism: all things necessary for a family unit to function. By their nature, their sexual reproduction (if we assume they still reproduce the same way as their Elven ancestors) would be in broods, not families, with copulation occuring for no purpose other than the carnal pleasure of it, and with fathers neither knowing or caring who their children are. Furthermore, by humanizing the Orcs in the manner done by Rings of Power, they have removed the moral certitude regarding them. As creatures who seek only to kill and torture, and with no drives other than sadistic pleasure-seeking, there is no moral quandry regarding fighting and killing them. This is how it is depicted in Tolkien’s works. Orcs are not the moral equals of Men and Elves. There is no scenario where they would simply live in peace, because to do so would be to change their very nature and the narrative role they serve: as unyielding and unequivocal enemies of all that is “good.” Tolkien’s work is not one with moral grey areas, it is an example of an epic narrative where one side is the embodiment of righteousness which must contend with an absolute evil that cannot be reasoned with. Orcs, as the slave-soldiers of that evil, are likewise placed in hard juxtaposition to the protagonists in the narrative. You’ve been very vocal throughout the comments about people “not understanding Tolkien” or being “fake fans.” Before lobbing insults, take a step back and consider what it is you’re actually arguing for.
I genuinely love your videos (even if I don't always agree with your point of view) because of your sense of timing and comedy. I won't pretend to be a huge LOTR fan but even my basic knowledge of these things has me rolling my eyes and questioning why any of these characters make the choices they do. I want to like this show and enjoy the fantasy elements, but so much of it is poorly done. I've watched dozens of critiques of this show, and listened to some positive takes as well, but ultimately all of these "small nitpicks" add up over time and have created something that doesn't feel part of this world (or really any world). It just feels so bizarre. Also, as an aside, we need more Jonny Law POSITIVE reviews - there must be some show you enjoy out there you can provide your comedic insights on!
15:00 that music sounds like something that would be playing in the background at some touristy old country store - I feel like I should be seeing some goats milk soaps and striped candies
OMG I am writing a paper right now and in part it is about preserving integrity and u just gave me a load of inspiration thank you. Now I have a great real life example via the preservation of the integrity of the source material
I kinda love how bad it is. It's like that My Immortal fanfiction, or the Room, it's just endlessly entertaining in how much it sucks. When Sauron tried to convince Orcs and he, the great deceiver, became whiny and his voice broke, it's just like I'm watching Spaceballs again. The orcs - a race that only knows or lusts for war - are made out to be sympathetic familymen. The ring - whose entire point is that a power over the minds of others will always corrupt, and power borne of evil will turn you evil always - is now 'good if it's used by the right people.' It is unintentional satire. It's so silly that you can't imagine it's played seriously. But it is, and we should be thankful.
I'm baffled how they could mess this up so badly. You would think they'd do so much to make it perfect and please the fans considering the money they've invested, but nope.
I love the horse chase scene of Galadriel and Elrond. It reminded me of fond memories, me and my sister racing back home to tell on each other with mom and dad when we were 8 and 10. I would go "mom, she broke the neighbor window", and she would go "oh yeh? remember you forgot to feed the dog last month"
I believe I m a real super-fan :D A fan who has been on 2 huge forums of fans for about 20 years, loved BBC radio adaptation with the great Ian Holm, went on tens of fandom Cons - on some as a helper of organizers, wrote over 10 essays, translated over 140 of fanfics, read about 3 K of fanfics (usualy canonical gap-fillers), read everything published by Tolkien (or by his son) including big fragments of HoME, (also other tales outside of Arda universum), watched LOTR like 20 times, memorised most of the PJ film's lines, bought a fanfic novel (a reprise of Boromir's story) signed by its author, collected over 100 scholarly publications on the topic, visited Tolkien's grave in Oxford, and got customised t-shirt with famous Amazon's showrunners line : "Toxic, evil Tolkien fan" :D
After watching this episode, I was overwhelmed by despair. I felt an ancient and subtle evil stirring in the shadows, moving with cunning and patience. An overwhelming sense of imminent danger hung in the air, as if something terrible was about to unfold. This evil, still hidden from our sight, grows in power, and the time of its revelation is near. None of us could have foreseen its true form. And the name of this horror, which will soon walk among us, is... Merimac, the Jar Jar Binks Hobbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This had me flabbergasted. I don't know what to say anymore. Do stones float ? Why has Galadriel a tempest in her and why is Celebrimbor shagging his orc apprentices ? How can Satan be killed by a random guy and resurrect as a rat ? Why did Orcs slaughter men, women and children in a village and then go on strike because they didn't want to go to war ? Argh .... my head is spinning.
watched 10 mins of this in season one, it was so bad i wanted to rip my eyes out and feed them to the cat. but my cat had all ready ran in front of a train to end it suffering.
Galadriel has the power of discernment. She would have been able to spot “Halbrand” as quickly as she spotted “Annatar”. This show is so non-canon that it actually hurts.
Can’t believe I recognized Posca from Rome last episode, but I missed the King Beyond the Wall this time! What am I even watching this for?? Also, good point about being able to see the Elven rings. I honestly don’t know if that was an intrinsic quality of the three or if it came later after they realized they had to hide them from Sauron. But the more you watch this show, the more little blunders like that show up. Kind of like Sauron getting a new body in episode 1 despite not having the one ring, even though the ability to reincarnate was one of the points of making the One and he wouldn’t have been able to do that before.
13:05 there are plenty of reasons to hate this show, but this one? It's my breaking point... I only watched the first 2 episodes of the 1st season, I refuse to give it a second chance. I refuse to watch the 2nd season because of this scene right here ... Amazon writers think orcs are "nuanced characters🌈 🦄 " Orcs have no will of their own. They are literally created to do evil😈 Why is this a hard concept for these writers? Is this what "modern" storytelling has become?
In one of the approximately 56 rewrites of the character and story of Galadriel and Celeborn, there is a short piece where she does actually fight. Against the sons of Feanor in the first Kinslaying,in order to protect her Teleri kin, with her, in this version , Noldor husband Celeborn aka Teleporno who is woefully absent from this show as well as her daughter Celebrian. But that was before the first age even started, shortly after the end of the age of the trees. And then she never did it again.
Rings of power gave elrond galadriel's job and galadriel elrond's job and both suck at the others job In the books elrond is the commander of the northern army probably why he was at the war of the last alliance and galadriel wasn't.
Modernity: buying a recipe for the best pizza in town, because you can’t make it yourself, changing everything about it, because you don’t like pizza and trying to ending up with a kebab because you like kebab more than pizza anyway.
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Eat the bugs.
What do you think of the new minecraft movie trailer?
No shirtless add this time either? 😢
Filthy casuals will be the ruin of us all 😅
No no I am not going to watch it on a plane , I will not watch it on a train , I will not watch it with a fox on a box with sock , I will not watch episode 1 jonnylaw I am .
Yeah lets go through it....
Can we bring up the fact that in rop, the Hobbits leave their injured behind to starve to death and happily eat bugs, and orcs don't want to go to war because they care for their families.
Remember, part of the woke mantra is to shit on everything beloved and paint the bad as good.
Let's all just forget that orcs were made in mockery of elves, as Ents were made in mockery of trolls. Treebeard, himself, literally SAYS SO in the book! They were bred to be evil. Orcs are the best bad guys in the film world, and they've been turned into sniveling, crying weaklings who just want to settle down, have kids, and get a mortgage on a new house.
@@scottporter4524 did i stutter?
It’s completely backwards
@@lefteron6804 yes u did there halffoots not hobbits why would u insult normal hobbits XD
I never understood why they eat bugs and not the literal food in their hair.
Yeaa
Basic and easy summary of second age story.
Sauron been missing, shows up as Annatar.
Annatar gets booted out by Galadriel and Gil-galad for being untrustworthy
However Celebrimbor decides to work alongside him
They spend years figuring out how to craft them, making dozens of minor rings
Nine are eventually made for men, seven for dwarves
In secret Celebrimbor makes the three for elves, unsullied by Sauron's influence
Meanwhile Sauron secretly forges the one ring and once complete resumes his place as the dark lord
When Sauron put the one ring on his finger, the elves felt this power and quickly hide the other rings
Sauron angry seiged and tore down down Eregion captured Celebrimbor
Under torture, Celebrimbor reveals where the nine and seven are but not ever mentions where the three are
He is than skinned or at least his body is used as a flag, maybe both.
So they couldn't even get this story flow right. THEY HAVE FCKED THIS VERY BASIC STORY FLOW! You can't have Sauron knowing of the elven rings else the elves would have fallen for his plan and been under his influence. Middle earth would have been fcked. You good dam muppets, It's not even that difficult to get that basic flow for a story. How did you manage this? You could read the fcking wikipedia article and understand more than Amazon does about the second age.
@MajorSmurf Thank You! My brother couldn't understand why I barely tolerated five minutes of the first episode. Oh, I don't know, maybe because I read the effing books and spent half a decade of my life dedicated to reading Tolkien. The man was a genius, yet just like other genius's of his time, they're being erased and replaced with wacko people who think they know better because they saw some kind of clip or something one time back in middle school.
Imagine not knowing anything form the books. Then you watch this show (😂) and decide “Man , I’d like to know more about all this let me check out the source material” 💀
@@Nunya310 They'd probably struggle with the language of the book like I did for a time and give up
@@eileensmiller8041 I’m sure a lot would as well 😆
Incorrect though. There are never any rings made for men or dwarves, Sauron simply gives them to men and dwarves once his plan to enslave elves with them fails because their own rings (he was unaware of at the time) alerted them to the presence of the one. He collects the rings he will eventually give to men and dwarves when he sacks eregion but is unable to find the 3 because the numenoreans turn up and drive him out.
The reason the rings work on men and not dwarves is because men, like elves are the creation of Eru while Dwarves were not.
Besides the writing being so bad it's painful to the ear, Galadriel's gift was discernment. She could literally see inside a person. There is no way she would not have recognized Sauron on sight. There is just no story. It's so bad it's insulting.
The Galadriel being presented here isn't a Galadriel that actually exists in the lore. It's also interesting to note that she and Elrond are actually related. Of course the show won't make mention of this, but that's not really the issue when Galadriel is actually one of the oldest Elves on Middle Earth, because she was actually born in Valinor. And they counted time differently in Valinor then, because there was no Sun yet. The years were longer. Compared to Galadriel Elrond is a child at every stage of his life.
Of course this is not a story that Amazon would tell you. It's a Tolkien legend.
If I recall correctly, Galadriel never physically met Anatar in the books because she would've been able to tell it was Sauron.
Sauron does not need an army. He needs the power of one, the power of two, the power of maaaaaanyyyyy.....
.... riiiiiiiiingsssss...
what a time to be alive, 2 massive narative franchise reduced to these
Yas Yass
@@gionaldori5811how does it feel to see your favorite franchises destroyed
@@leviticusprime4904 Are they? It's not a franchise. The movies are all that exists. Or the books, if you prefer. Everything else is fan-fiction. See, easy.
I think you mean…. The powerr of fannnyyyyyyy
Orcs just want a small patch of ground where they can grow PO-TAY-TOES.
I understood that reference....
😅
Boil em, mash em, Stick em in stew.
“Boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.”
The orc family.... I just feel so sorry for Tolkien, his work completely misunderstood, bent to modern agendas. It is such such a shame.
I mean, in fairness, that's maybe one of the less-egregious bits of this mess, because Tolkien did at least mention, at some point, the orcs going into the mountains & reproducing, I can't remember how he said/wrote it exactly, but I think he even said there must be female orcs. But, the part that gets me is them not wanting to go to war & being caring husbands & fathers. THAT is truly where the line was crossed. I don't think it would have been terrible to have a female orc &/or a baby/young orc, it's just the part where they make them out to be compassionate, caring, normal guys, basically, that gets me.
His grandson is the worst sellout, human POS, in recent literary history.
@zzevonplant There is a scane in LotR where two orcs discuss about wanting to leave the Dark Lord's army with a bunch of their mates, head somewhere far from the war and do their own thing. To be fair, their thing probably involves looting, fighting and killing, but they want to do that stuff for themselves rather rhan in the glory of some dark master.
Maybe I'm reading the scene with the orc family wrong but I didn't interpret it as saying that the orcs suddenly became good, peaceful etc. They don't want to go to war against men and elves (because that gets them killed) but it doesn't mean they would be all peaceful and lovely if they stayed in Mordor - there are literal slaves there, remember? They still want to do selfish and nasty things, they just want to do them home rather than out there
@@moon-moth1that race has been gnociding accross the planet for as long as they have been a distinct race. In broad terms you can say all of them are evil without turning it into a allegory. The real world and the current thing doesn't need to flow into every nook and cranny of escapism.
I understand that his works are supposed to be a modern recreated mythology for England but "modern" as in his time. If we want to create our own modern thing, we should definitely go and do that. Oh wait that already exists, Warcraft. The Orcs in that setting started out as shamanistic tribes, got tricked into drinking demon's blood wich turned them into the gnocidal monsters we expect from a Tolkien's Orc. And then the first Orc who drank that demon's blood sacrificed himself while killing said demon.
"I have freed myself" he says, as he dies in the arms of Thrall. Thrall replies
"No, You have freed us all" and lets out a mighty growl that echoes accross the canyon they've been fighting the demon in. He then leads the Orcs into the most desolate land he could find as atonement for their sins.
This is a modern story/mythology that isn't a fanfiction of Tolkien. We don't need to butcher and edit older works to fit our current thing. We can write things for our current thing.
@@exantiuse497 They still portray an orc being a caring father. You can't justify this by any part of the legendarium.
Commander of the northern armies, wife to a murdered husband, sister to a murdered brother, and i have a tempest in me, in this badly written scene and the next.
Are you not entertained
actually chuckled, good one
With Gladiator 2 out, this rings in a different, though equally creatively bankrupt, way.
Hahaha that was GREAT!
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"Commodified fantasy takes no risks: it invents nothing, but imitates and trivializes. It proceeds by depriving the old stories of their intellectual and ethical complexity, turning their action to violence, their actors to dolls, and their truth-telling to sentimental platitude. Heroes brandish their swords, lasers, wands, as mechanically as combine harvesters, reaping profits. Profoundly disturbing moral choices are sanitized, made cute, made safe. The passionately conceived idea of the great storytellers are copied, stereotyped, reduced to toys, molded in bright-colored plastic, advertised, sold, broken, junked, replaceable, interchangeable." -Ursula K. LeGuin
hrmph :(
We are seeing a lack of good storytelling in Hollywood. Up until about the ,90s, the story was a priority, and that's why the best films have endured the test of time, remaining popular for generations of movie watchers. Instead of good stories, likeable characters, and realistic dialog, we get reboots of old franchises that should have ended long ago, when they were still good. Nobody will remember or care about this Amazon trash pile that makes a mockery of everything Tolkien ever wrote.
Amazing quote. Thank you!
Thanks for that excellent quote! Love LeGuin!
This quote is amazing and is perfectly applicable to the trash that is Rings of Power.
When I'm in a "terrible at my job" competition and my opponent is the Rings of Power writers
You'd lose every time.
ROP is what u get when u order LOTR from temu
@@genin69😂
PJ orcs : "looks like the meat is back on the menu boys!"
Amazon: "anyone has a bit of avocado and chai latte? I'm a bit hungry"
The PJ films suck
@@reek4062 aren't you edgy 😑
Lol instead of "hungry" it's more like "Feeling a mite bit peckish, really..."😂
@@reek4062How so?
@@zzevonplant Because the characters are reduced to caricatures and almost every scene is dumbed down and made obnoxious.
Amazon reduced Tolkien's lore to Easter eggs. Jesus Christ I can hear Tolkien spinning to the moon from his grave
So, you mean, we should make a Tolkien Coin? 🤔😉😀
nooooo d00d the shippeng of Sorown an Gelladreeol as kupple maykes sho 35/10 yo!!!11111
Tolkien has been continuously spinning since 2001.
@@reek4062 no he hasnt been 'spinning' his family sold the rights to amazon and so would he have, you dumb fks
Not as easter eggs. Rotten serpent eggs, more like.
Is it nickpicking to point out that the name Sauron was a mockery of his original name (the abhorred) given by the Eldar, and Meiron wouldn't have used that name for himself, but then totally did in the first episode of Season 2? How did the show writers not know this simple fact?
Because they know nothing and care even less
I actually didn't know that (or had forgotten, I don't have a great memory at times), that's cool.
I find it hilarious that Scamdalf could hardly say a word in the first season, he was basically an infant in an old man's body, but suddenly he's talking in full sentences (as painful as they are to listen to) and desperately trying to sound super wise.
its crazy under what circumstances the LotR movies were created and how awesome they turned out to be, rings of power is drowning in ressources and ends up like this, its insanity.
They have no motivation to success, gonna get paid big amazon bucks anyway
It is and it isn't. Hollywood is so out of touch, they are so left wing they just hire people based on race and gender, they dont give a shit about a resume. A gay black man ranks higher than an actual Tolkien fans that has read the books 30 times each. Liberalism is a disease and kills everything it touches.
"Commander of the armies of the north."
I believe that was Maximus from Gladiator.
I love that _Mithrandir_ - the grey wanderer, Olorin, Láthspell, etc - says "no one can give you a name!"
Lol, right??
The dude that goes on a small tangent about all the names he gets in various parts of the world, except east cause amazon delivery doesn't take him to those parts.
Edit: It would be like calling Gollum the "Lord of gifts" just cause he mentioned a birthday present a few times in the stories.
Ultimate crossover: the 7 corrupted dwarven ring holders are going to become the Seven Dwarves in Snow White
"Commanders of the Northern Armies" is a Gladiator ripoff: My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, etc..." RoP dialogue is full of ripoffs from non-LoTR movies,
"... and she bore a mark from birth from He who must not be identified by name. The dragon Thompson Riddle and his rider, Darth Spoc-itus."
My prediction for the next episode.
She said Morrrlldoorrrll. I want to flip a desk each time I hear it
"We must defeat Saurrron, the Darrrk Lorrrd of Morrrdorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [galadriel.exe has stopped working.]"
She'll fit right in with Long John Silver and company.
How did you know I bought the limited edition glow in the dark Funko Pop collab?
Lol, i randomly read your comment just as Johnny was speaking the words. That always gives me a funny little charge
Probably the robbin in the hood and willow ones too, what a shill you are disparu 😂
Cirdan building a boat in (essentially) his basement, just like Leroy Jethro Gibbs in the earlier seasons of NCIS - complete with the same size, the fact that all that's ever shown worked on is running a hand planer over already smooth planks, and the small little detail that the boat is still too large to ever get out of the house. LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME!
That they completely misunderstand both the scale of the craft that befalls a _shipwright_ and the difference between a _boat_ and a _ship_ is I guess already understood as fact, yes?
I mean considering how they portray Celebrimbor as a smith who doesn't understand the principle of alloys, should you be surprised?
In the raft scenes of the first season, they have already showed that they lack even the most basic understanding of how sailing works. I especially loved how "Galadriel" wrapped a random rope around her hand (boat safety 101... nice) while trying to coil it and tie it off at the same time, looking irritated and disoriented, her body language just screaming "I have no clue what I'm doing and the clowns who direct me don't know either" to the audience. Not to mention the hilarious meme of how RoP makers think ships look below the waterline.
Morfydd Clark is astoundingly bad as Galadriel.
She was the wrong actress for the job and mostly it isn't even her fault. The directing is so bad. I was dumbfounded when I saw one of her short interviews where she displayed more emotions and facial expressions than in her whole stint in RoP. That's not really her fault. She can't see her own face while she's acting, someone has to tell her to show more expression in her work.
@@whitegoose2017 Hah no she is just bad. This is what happens when you blow your budget on special effects and cheap out on the actors. Matter of fact just about all the actors in this show are amateur at best. But Morfydd is god awful.
@@childofthemist6174 Actually.. I disagree with you. I'll give you my thoughts as to why. It just starts with whoever is in charge of this mess. The two showrunners. They are inexperienced and don't have any expertise. What are their qualifications again? What big projects they worked on and were in charge of before they got this gig? NOTHING.
No. You can't really blame the employees in this situation when the bosses don't know what the ef they are doing..
She is so bad that I don't think we can blame the direction. She is absolutely atrocious.
@childofthemist6174 see St.Maude.. she's great in that! Fits her persona well too
Hubris, woke and bad writing are the words that destroyed Rings of Power. A DOA shit show. The damage of the first season destroyed the series.
And it REALLY could have been great, they had every imaginable advantage. They have a built-in devoted fanbase, access to use parts of (arguably) the greatest works of fiction ever written, one of the biggest platforms in the world on which to release this thing, AND a *massive* budget.
And all they had to do to not ruin this thing out of the gate was preserve the essence of the story - they didn't have to get all the lore perfectly, Jackson didn't & most people loved those films, but he kept the soul of the story intact, the messages/ideas remained in place. And they had to write it well, just make it compelling, interesting, & not a miserable experience to sit through. That's the BARE minimum & that's all they had to do. And they just couldn't even do that. 🤦🏻♀️😭
Morfydd Clark's acting is like she's trying to pass an embolism.
She was really good in Saint Maud...the script, writing, and stifling "don't you dare go off script even for a second' directors render anything other than "Yup. here for the check and trying not to roll my eyes, possible.
Or a gerbil😂
„Normies make everything ugly and boring“… Bang on 💯
All I see when they show the rigns is those machines in supermarkets from when I was a kid. You put your 20c in, turned the handle and a plastic egg with a tacky toy inside dropped out. Sometimes it was a ring! Which you thought was fabulously beautiful ... at the age of five. 💍😅
I got some of those recently!! Makes for great DIY projects and toys!!
My dentist gave those out. Vague recollections of getting a ring, and wondering why it looked so much cooler than the boring one my dad wore.
If the writers knew enough about the lore to hide it as easter eggs it shows they aren't ignorant of it, they are contemptuous of it. Watching the show fail is entertaining.
Sure seems that way.
It sure does seem like it.
first episode of season 1 turned me off straight away. as soon as i saw Galadriel in armor i thought about when she went to recuse Gandolf from the Nazgûl wearing a sheer dress and bare feet! she didn't need armor and that is what was so cool about her! I felt like the people who wrote the show never watched the movies let alone read the books. which i would have thought would have been a requirement for anyone taking the job...
There hope for you! I baled from the whole franchise in about 20 minutes. Barely made it past the paper boat loves the sky or some shit.
That was after she got a ring of power tho. Before that, why would she not wear armor? She had no magic outside of the same magic every elf had.
I like how the commander of the northern armies have no staff what so ever and never interact with any kind of military structure. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a northern border at all.
What, you mean a commander of multiple armies doesn't just ride around alone leading forces into combat from the front line and kicking ass? What is this "staff" of which you speak? Is it the same as the one Grand-elf is looking for perchance?
@@justforever96 No no, everyone knows that the one with the highest kill count lead the army, so of course the generals have to fight the most, otherwise someone might surpass them.
Well, almost, except hers vibrate rather than swallow.
11:17 So now they tell me that Not_Gandalf is going to fight sand people from the Star Wars?..
Dude I got so confused there. I was like, “is this a RoP/SW collab? This damn show is so derivative and bereft of ideas
Noone has brought up the fact that Poppy was the ONLY harfoot who could read the map, and they left her there to guide the Harfeets around safely. But then Poppy just abandons them and takes the map with her.
Also I noticed every single storyline got a new female character shoehorned in just the first 3 episodes (except Numenor but they already had a Karen who was waiting to be a strong woman at the end of ep3) Celembrembor got a female elf assistant, the Orcs got a woman AND a baby, Isildur came across some random lady and started travelling with her, and the dwarves got TWO female dwarves who suddenly appeared to sing with Disa for the first time. Now if the masked horseperson chasing Gandalf turns out to be a woman, then it would be a strong wahman for every race this season
The idea that she couldn't make a copy of the map and then teach someone else to read it, in the literal months/years the RoP show seems to imply happens so quickly, I am confused as to why you think that's a problem.
There are REAL problems with the show. That isn't one of them, unless you're going out of your way to plug your ears, blind your eyes, and mentally handicap your brain so you purposefully can't think through it.
"The Orcs got a woman AND a baby"
So you haven't even seen the show, but instead base all the main characters around youtuber grifter memes? Yikes.
The woman and baby didn't even really exist in the show. They were there for like 3 literal seconds, without any lines, as minor items for the actual real character of the male orc who has a few scenes in the show as a sortof 2nd in command to his "Father".
You made a statement as if those are two brand new characters, the same as all the leading female cast (which you had a point on, but lost that point when you proved you are just repeating memes like a brainless sheep who only watches youtubers bc you dont even have your own thoughts or opinions)
I have heard that some people say this season is better than season 1. That's like saying hey my shit harder than Diarrhea, so major improvements........shit is shit.
Every shot is f about the same length, and the camera always moves at the same pace. There is no cadence in the editing, so there is no sense of movement or speed, or emotional charge. It’s just the same dull, slow pace, shot after shot after shot. Even the zooms don’t break the dirge rhythm.
It was actually fascinating to confirm this element of dullness, because I couldn’t believe ANYONE would edit this way, let alone a big-money series. 😮
You didn't watch either season, so why would anyone care what you think? If we want your opinion, we can just go online to watch some alt-right youtuber cry about the one scene that was actually accurate with Tolkien's work.
I love RoP exclusively bc it caused a ton of fake "tolkien fans" to self-out. Peter Jackson didn't write LOTR despite what all these frauds think.
@nowayjosedaniel taken right out of the leftist playbook if people don't agree with you insult, degrade, and cry at them. We have an opinion and you don't like it so we are wrong. So tolerant so brave...haha cry harder.
Meanwhile in Amazon HQ: "Ma'am, we have another streamer for Rings of Power!" - "Quick, shut it down! it's another TH-cam critic!!!"
How tf were u able to sit thru episodes of this show man ? I couldn't get thru season 1 episode 1 😂
Yeah, he earns every penny and respect for his struggle!
He said it so perfectly last video: "it's a series so bad it gave me a job" 😂
I literally fell asleep in ep 1. I made myself watch the other two, but the abiding vibe of he show is … sleepy
It's so bat sht crazy,how could you not, I'm scarred thinking of orcs smashing and having a baby.
You just straight up admitted you hate a series you've never watched, exclusively because a bunch of youtubers told you it was bad.
I don't think you want to actually brag about not thinking for yourself. Yikes! That's not the brag you think it is.
at this point, Galadriel and Sauron are definitely endgame 🤣🤣 they'll settle into Mordor, diy the place, and the orcs can move in and live happily ever after 🙃
using Hampsterdance to lighten the pain you feel on seeing this series shit on everything good is a wonderful choice, thank you for making me laugh lol
dood my fayv port of Reng Powur is Sorawn an Galladdriol shypping!!!!!!!1 I giv sho 20/10 yo!!!!!!!11111111
Galadriel in RoP is a secret villain. Her stubborn pride and self-righteousness single handedly led to the the return of Sauron, the destruction of Numenor, the creation of Mordor, and all the hardship to follow for the next couple thousand years. She thinks she is better than everyone else and when she is confronted about her flaws and mistakes, she takes zero ownership or accountability. It is a total bastardization of the character
The funniest part about Guyladriel's "battle plan" is that the entirety of Mordor is already on their east side. Unless they want to circumnavigate either the mountains of Ered Lithui or Ephel Duath, the ONLY possible way to invade Mordror is from its west side. What a chad commander of the Northern armies.
"No one can give you a name." - The Stranger, Rings of Power... Bullshit they can't, allow me to Tolkien the writers for a moment.
Olórin: Gandalf's original Maia name.
Mithrandir: given to him by the Elves.
Tharkûn: given by the Dwarves.
Gandalf the Grey: His most common known, given originally by the men of Arnor a name he continued to use in Gondor
Greyhame: given to by the people of Rohan.
Incarnus: Gandalf's name in The South.
Gandalf the White/The White Rider: Given after his return
Grey Fool/Stormcrow/Láthspell: An insulting nickname given to Gandalf by other characters.
Gandalf the Grey: Ignore all those examples, no one can give you a name... "Gandalf many names slips into an Schizophrenia fuelled incoherent raving about names"
"Normies make everything ugly and boring".
Once upon a time, I would not have believed that. I wanted more people loving the things I loved, to see how beautiful and fascinating they were. And then I watched every fictional world I loved in the last 20 to 50 years fall apart, because they failed to resist being made ugly and boring by the invaders.
I hit the Like before this point because of funny lines. I wasn't expecting a fundamental truth of the horror of this world to hit me.
There's a study called "World3" that implies our western civilisation will end in about 2040 (and that's not even a left-vs-right politics thing, that's looking at metrics like birth rate, death rate, agricultural output, pollution, non-renewable resources, industrial output).
I am now perfectly prepared to believe (or at least work as if) the Seventh Age will end in about sixteen years. Apart from the fact I'm not self-sufficient yet, I'm kinda wishing it would just get here faster.
Wow that's bleak man. Kinda hits too close.
That show is an abomination
Galadriel did fight and she did have military experience, and she was a bit of a hotshot (Noldorin blood is strong)--at the beginning of the First Age. We're in mid-Second Age now. She wised up pretty damn quickly living through a literal apocalypse, like all the other elves who survived it. Also she's tall and I will never forgive not casting Gwendoline Christie as this younger Galadriel.
Anyway I hate everything about RoP lmao
Your not nit picking ....all valid points....
Even using poor Fredegar Bolger to remind people on the real Lord of the rings
Fatty😂
14:34 you’re so right, I hadn’t noticed as much but that is the most WB-esque part of the show so far
Gil-Galad and Elrond should be worshiping the ground Galadriel walks on. Alongside Cirdan she is the wisest Elf in Middle Earth at this point.
This show makes her beaten down by Gil-Galad, disrespected by Elrond and frankly: she deserves it. She’s short sighted, brash, cannot even take responsibility for her own mistakes, petulant and a plethora of other negatives.
But no, *WE* are the Misogynists, not Amazon that made her this way.
Kudos for changing your bet sheet regularly.
It's always nice to find a role model on YT triggering personal goals that could realistically be achieved. ;)
A billion dollars....wait what? ...looks like it was made for a hundred bucks.
The show actually looks good it doesn't explain where those hundreds of millions went to tho
@@PuigiDralbes Sometimes it looks trash tho
Why the fuck do you have an entire desktop PC as a decoration on your nightstand?
4:27 PREACH
The Wrongs of Power is the best. Best example of reading zero source material and zero ability to read the room.
Zero ability to read in general by the looks of it.
Eat the bugs. Wear dem rangz.
There is 1 good thing about this show. Hilarious reviews.
Around last season Rings of Power fans were also trying to promote the idea that Galadriel got her magical powers from Nenya. She didn't. Tolkien straight up said that Rings of Power could not grant anyone wholly new powers they didn't have before, but only enhance what they already had. He also said in Unfinished Tales that Galadriel's magical power and especially her power of insight into the minds of others was evident "from her earliest years". According to the Silmarillion she also spent some years learning and honing her magical abilities with her Aunt, Melian in the Firs Age.
The series seems to be doubling down on this erroneous idea though so expect them to start saying it again.
11:34 "Sauron is now Jesus" literally had the same thought before you said it and i'm cacklinggg
"Noone can give you a name" is a classic line and will be quoted endlessly - along with "why does a stone sink" - to illustrate the sheer unthinking stupidity of these writers.
Never forget : they had a real Tolkien expert on their team, they didn't need to memorise the books - but they fired him very early on.
Simon Tolkien appears in the credits. Imagine watching a cousin take a steaming dump on your grandfather's legacy.
Seeing as how you people think Orcs being former Elves (having families) & Orcs not wanting to goto war is somehow not Tolkien, despite the fact it's the most Tolkien of the entire RoP series, makes me think absolutely nothing you people think is based on reality.
It's all based on mindlessly following youtube grifters who just tell you what feels good in your emotions.
In my experience, any response with "you people" in the opening sentence is probably worth ignoring.
@@quercusquercus532 Savage answer !
@nowayjosedaniel
The Orcs are specifically designed to be reviled. They are irredeemably evil (at least from the standpoint of Elves and Men), and in every description of them Tolkien makes note of the fact that their only pleasure is in causing pain and suffering to other life. They are selfish, sadistic, and pitiless.
The reason that having an Orc family is so ridiculous is because of what such a scenario requires of the individuals.
Orcs show no love or affection, no sense of self-sacrifice or altruism: all things necessary for a family unit to function. By their nature, their sexual reproduction (if we assume they still reproduce the same way as their Elven ancestors) would be in broods, not families, with copulation occuring for no purpose other than the carnal pleasure of it, and with fathers neither knowing or caring who their children are.
Furthermore, by humanizing the Orcs in the manner done by Rings of Power, they have removed the moral certitude regarding them. As creatures who seek only to kill and torture, and with no drives other than sadistic pleasure-seeking, there is no moral quandry regarding fighting and killing them. This is how it is depicted in Tolkien’s works.
Orcs are not the moral equals of Men and Elves. There is no scenario where they would simply live in peace, because to do so would be to change their very nature and the narrative role they serve: as unyielding and unequivocal enemies of all that is “good.”
Tolkien’s work is not one with moral grey areas, it is an example of an epic narrative where one side is the embodiment of righteousness which must contend with an absolute evil that cannot be reasoned with. Orcs, as the slave-soldiers of that evil, are likewise placed in hard juxtaposition to the protagonists in the narrative.
You’ve been very vocal throughout the comments about people “not understanding Tolkien” or being “fake fans.” Before lobbing insults, take a step back and consider what it is you’re actually arguing for.
I genuinely love your videos (even if I don't always agree with your point of view) because of your sense of timing and comedy. I won't pretend to be a huge LOTR fan but even my basic knowledge of these things has me rolling my eyes and questioning why any of these characters make the choices they do. I want to like this show and enjoy the fantasy elements, but so much of it is poorly done. I've watched dozens of critiques of this show, and listened to some positive takes as well, but ultimately all of these "small nitpicks" add up over time and have created something that doesn't feel part of this world (or really any world). It just feels so bizarre.
Also, as an aside, we need more Jonny Law POSITIVE reviews - there must be some show you enjoy out there you can provide your comedic insights on!
EAT THE BUGS! EAT THE BUGS! EAT THE BUGS!
15:00 that music sounds like something that would be playing in the background at some touristy old country store - I feel like I should be seeing some goats milk soaps and striped candies
"Sit down pagan!" 😂
OMG I am writing a paper right now and in part it is about preserving integrity and u just gave me a load of inspiration thank you. Now I have a great real life example via the preservation of the integrity of the source material
At this point, I'm thankful for new episodes of RoP since we get so many quality roasting videos
Not sure what’s worse, the show or TH-cam hacks like yourself spending hours of their time moaning about it
The only good thing the first season did was save me money, Cancelled my prime in disgust.
I kinda love how bad it is. It's like that My Immortal fanfiction, or the Room, it's just endlessly entertaining in how much it sucks. When Sauron tried to convince Orcs and he, the great deceiver, became whiny and his voice broke, it's just like I'm watching Spaceballs again. The orcs - a race that only knows or lusts for war - are made out to be sympathetic familymen. The ring - whose entire point is that a power over the minds of others will always corrupt, and power borne of evil will turn you evil always - is now 'good if it's used by the right people.' It is unintentional satire.
It's so silly that you can't imagine it's played seriously. But it is, and we should be thankful.
The orc family plot is BONKERS!!! 🤦😂
This piece of "art" deserves everything you can unleash on it
Not “piece of art.” It’s “piece o’ fart.” 😂
I'm baffled how they could mess this up so badly. You would think they'd do so much to make it perfect and please the fans considering the money they've invested, but nope.
All shall bow at the altar of crap woke writing! And those who dislike it shall be deemed bigots and misogynists!
They have their own plans and message to spread, they don't care about money or lore
There is NOTHING funny about what they have done with LOTR
and what if Celeborn is Adar? hahaha maybe he is trying to rescue the orcs hahaha
At this point, literally nothing would surprise me.
I love the horse chase scene of Galadriel and Elrond. It reminded me of fond memories, me and my sister racing back home to tell on each other with mom and dad when we were 8 and 10. I would go "mom, she broke the neighbor window", and she would go "oh yeh? remember you forgot to feed the dog last month"
I see the pain behind Johnny's laughs and my heart bleeds for him...and Tolkien ❤
A1 recap...bonus points for the Matt Berry meme 👍
Eat the bugs!
You vill eat ze bugs, own nutink, and be happee!
"Mother, please call me Beswick" 😂
I believe I m a real super-fan :D A fan who has been on 2 huge forums of fans for about 20 years, loved BBC radio adaptation with the great Ian Holm, went on tens of fandom Cons - on some as a helper of organizers, wrote over 10 essays, translated over 140 of fanfics, read about 3 K of fanfics (usualy canonical gap-fillers), read everything published by Tolkien (or by his son) including big fragments of HoME, (also other tales outside of Arda universum), watched LOTR like 20 times, memorised most of the PJ film's lines, bought a fanfic novel (a reprise of Boromir's story) signed by its author, collected over 100 scholarly publications on the topic, visited Tolkien's grave in Oxford, and got customised t-shirt with famous Amazon's showrunners line : "Toxic, evil Tolkien fan" :D
Your statement, I want to put on a bumper sticker! "Where is Celeborn, for I much desire to speak with him." That is my favorite part of your video.
After watching this episode, I was overwhelmed by despair. I felt an ancient and subtle evil stirring in the shadows, moving with cunning and patience. An overwhelming sense of imminent danger hung in the air, as if something terrible was about to unfold. This evil, still hidden from our sight, grows in power, and the time of its revelation is near. None of us could have foreseen its true form. And the name of this horror, which will soon walk among us, is... Merimac, the Jar Jar Binks Hobbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel so bad for Mr. and Mrs. Orcney
This had me flabbergasted. I don't know what to say anymore.
Do stones float ? Why has Galadriel a tempest in her and why is Celebrimbor shagging his orc apprentices ?
How can Satan be killed by a random guy and resurrect as a rat ? Why did Orcs slaughter men, women and children in a village and then go on strike because they didn't want to go to war ?
Argh .... my head is spinning.
The bigger problem here is that they wont accept the critics. They will just blame men again that we cant stand to see powerful women. 😂
watched 10 mins of this in season one, it was so bad i wanted to rip my eyes out and feed them to the cat. but my cat had all ready ran in front of a train to end it suffering.
Galadriel has the power of discernment. She would have been able to spot “Halbrand” as quickly as she spotted “Annatar”. This show is so non-canon that it actually hurts.
Thank you, Mr. Law, especially for all the nitpicking. You've been very observant, despite the insane pace of the show.
Thank you for your sacrifice
Can’t believe I recognized Posca from Rome last episode, but I missed the King Beyond the Wall this time! What am I even watching this for??
Also, good point about being able to see the Elven rings. I honestly don’t know if that was an intrinsic quality of the three or if it came later after they realized they had to hide them from Sauron. But the more you watch this show, the more little blunders like that show up. Kind of like Sauron getting a new body in episode 1 despite not having the one ring, even though the ability to reincarnate was one of the points of making the One and he wouldn’t have been able to do that before.
13:05 there are plenty of reasons to hate this show, but this one? It's my breaking point... I only watched the first 2 episodes of the 1st season, I refuse to give it a second chance. I refuse to watch the 2nd season because of this scene right here ... Amazon writers think orcs are "nuanced characters🌈 🦄 "
Orcs have no will of their own. They are literally created to do evil😈
Why is this a hard concept for these writers?
Is this what "modern" storytelling has become?
"Best show on Amazon" is kinda like best nug in the toilet
They have The Expanse.
In one of the approximately 56 rewrites of the character and story of Galadriel and Celeborn, there is a short piece where she does actually fight. Against the sons of Feanor in the first Kinslaying,in order to protect her Teleri kin, with her, in this version , Noldor husband Celeborn aka Teleporno who is woefully absent from this show as well as her daughter Celebrian. But that was before the first age even started, shortly after the end of the age of the trees. And then she never did it again.
That Douglas Reynholm clip was excellent
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Mordor surrounded by mountains in the north, south and west, aka where she wants to attack
They could attack from the northwest! …unless that sword created gates across Morannon, too.
This show is terribly ORChestrated!
1:43 A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!
Rings of power gave elrond galadriel's job and galadriel elrond's job and both suck at the others job
In the books elrond is the commander of the northern army probably why he was at the war of the last alliance and galadriel wasn't.
5:58 Feminem? Them Shady?
i could be wrong but i think the name Gandalf roughly translates to staff wielding elf in sindarin but i could be mixing up definitions
Modernity: buying a recipe for the best pizza in town, because you can’t make it yourself, changing everything about it, because you don’t like pizza and trying to ending up with a kebab because you like kebab more than pizza anyway.
This hits it on the head! Perfect description of Wheel of Time amazon endeavor too.
ORC LIVES MATTER!