A lesson these writers should learn about profundity: Tolkien wasn't just using big words or really trying to be any more profound than the base messages given in his dialogue. He had such a mastery over the English language that he could articulate small, seemingly insignificant ideas in such a beautiful way that it seems profound to the readers or viewers. He wasn't just "using big words" as RoP writers seem to think he did. He used his knowledge of the English language to get through to us these simple messages of peace and love and good that is worth fighting for. You can't boil a writing style like Tolkien's to a single word like "mystical", or "profound" because of how deep his works are, and it's even more insulting to his work that the showrunners genuinely thought that is how an adaptation of Tolkien should be written.
I recorded an excerpt from Fellowship a couple of days ago, for my channel. I read lots of books aloud there. As I was reading aloud I became aware of something that stood out from other books. The way Tolkien uses words and sentences unfolds naturally, and your mind’s eye does not have to go back and fill in details that are presented in the wrong order. More than that, the sentences have a RHYTHM… not just the words used, but the order and cadence of them. It’s hard to explain, but as a musician I could feel the backbeat underneath informing the way the story comes out. I can’t stop thinking about it.
"In the land of Morrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrdorrrrrrrrrrrrr, in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Saurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrron forged, in secret, a master ring to control all others"
Well done good Sir! Just as an aside, Cirdan has NEVER been to Valinor, how would he know how "perfect" it is? Yeah, writing is hard, when you work in Hollyweird.
The one thing worse than incompetence is the hackery coupled to unbridled arrogance, which makes even utter incompetence lazy. This reduces merely atrocious writing to the level of idiocy. Indeed illiteracy would be an improvement.
Apparently that's very original to how Tolkien wanted his language pronounced but I completely agree... I think I involuntarily roll my eyes every time it happens now.
@@luckyowl6432 Tolkien would have probably preferred the softer Italian-like rolling than the exaggerated Hispanic one, given his background as a linguist and Latin scholar.
@@luckyowl6432 There are recordings of JRR Tolkien reading the Lord of the Rings. Some are on TH-cam. He doesn't engage in the exaggerated guttural rolling of ROP.
@@Joe-rk9uy Collect your black speech and steer it off a cliff like dewdrops off a spoon. But seriously, you can't know their writing, and your use of "you're" is wrong. Typical internet discourse, there's always that one person who baselessly says "I bet you're stupid and bad" just to be a jerk lol
That first part of the metaphor made a connection between the sound of the rumor to a songbirds song (otherwise why make it a songbird rather than another small bird?). Then it pivots to saying that if you eat the bird it wouldn't be filling. Which left me the impression that they were trying to say that you can't eat sound?? Fucking horrid phrase.
@@helenwhs If I give them the most credit I think they're trying to say that a songbird may lure you with its sound because it signals there's potential prey. But a songbird is so small that it doesn't feed you as well as for example a chicken, whose noise doesn't sound as inviting as the songbird's. But it's worded so clumsily that this whole discussing and puzzling is an embarrassment for Amazon already, and the metaphor doesn't fit dwarf culture at all, even if we say that someone who grew up in a cave for all their life would be unknowledge enough to fall for said bird.
This wasn't written by ChatGPT. None of it. I know this because I prompted chat GPT to write a scene where Bombadil was the first to say the "Can you give it to them?" line. Compare this to the show, and tell me it's not far better: 'The trees of the Old Forest rustled in the soft evening breeze, their leaves whispering secrets in a language older than elves. Birds chirped, and the sun dipped low, casting long shadows over the ancient woods. A gentle melody floated on the air, the sound of a voice as old as the hills, singing to the rhythm of the earth itself. Gandalf, now dressed once more in his grey robes, walked slowly along the edge of the trees. His staff tapped the ground lightly as he moved with purpose, yet his heart was not heavy as it had been in the days of war. He felt the world beginning to heal, but there were questions in his mind-questions that had lingered through the ages. As if in answer to his thoughts, the singing grew louder. Ahead of him, seated on a fallen tree, was Tom Bombadil. He wore his blue coat and his bright yellow boots, his hat adorned with a long feather swaying as he bobbed his head in rhythm. His eyes sparkled like sunlight on a rippling brook. “Hey dol! Merry dol! Ring-a-dong-dillo!” Bombadil sang, laughing as he spotted the wizard. “Old Gandalf is wandering, out in the green fields! What brings you, oh Greyhame, to my borders once more?” Gandalf smiled, his old eyes twinkling with a mixture of amusement and curiosity. “I had a feeling I might find you here, Tom. The world has changed much since last we met.” “Changed, yes, and still the same in many ways!” Bombadil hopped down from his perch, as spry as ever, and approached Gandalf, a wide grin on his face. “The birds still sing, the trees still grow. Seasons turn, wind blows. But the world beyond the woods, ah, that’s what troubles you, I think.” Gandalf chuckled. “As always, you are more than you seem. Yes, the world beyond your woods has been through much. The Dark Lord is gone. The Ring is unmade. But there are still shadows that linger-questions that remain.” Bombadil’s face softened, and for a moment, his gaze grew distant. He was not often serious, but something in Gandalf’s words struck a chord. “Ah, the long dark and deep waters. The old wounds of the world, scars that do not heal with the turning of the age. What weighs on your mind, Gandalf?” Gandalf leaned on his staff and sighed. “So much death, Tom. So much loss. Sauron’s evil claimed many lives-some innocent, some guilty. And yet... I wonder. What of those who perished in darkness? Could they not have been redeemed? Even Gollum, in the end, played his part in the undoing of evil. But there are others-those who did not have a chance.” Tom Bombadil’s eyes twinkled again, though his smile was softer now, filled with ancient understanding. He sat on a nearby stone, gesturing for Gandalf to do the same. “Ah, you ponder the great question. Life and death, who is worthy of what fate? A hard riddle for even the wisest of wizards.” Bombadil chuckled, his tone gentle. “You speak of mercy. Perhaps you, Gandalf, already know the answer, deep in your heart.” Gandalf sat beside him, feeling the quiet power of the earth beneath his feet. “I have always believed in mercy, yes. But sometimes, I question whether my choices were right. The lives that were lost... Could I have done more?” Bombadil reached down and plucked a single flower, holding it up to the fading light. “Old Tom knows this world well, Gandalf. The flowers bloom, the trees grow tall, but all things must fade in time. Some pass in peace, and others... by violence or hatred. Yet life is not something easily judged.” He turned, his bright blue eyes fixing on Gandalf’s. “Do you remember what I told Frodo, when he came to my house? The barrow-wight, a dark soul long lost, was sent away, but not destroyed. Evil may fall, but it may also rise again, in strange forms. And yet, not all dark things are beyond hope.” Gandalf nodded, his face thoughtful. Bombadil rose suddenly, casting the flower into the wind. “And so, dear Gandalf, do you ask yourself who deserves to live? Who deserves to die? It is a question beyond even the Valar, I reckon. For what is death but a door? Some who pass through it deserve life again, and some who live may not yet be ready for it.” The wizard’s breath caught. He turned to Bombadil, sensing the gravity of his words. The old forest-dweller paused, gazing out over the ancient trees, his voice quiet yet resonating with ancient wisdom. “Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Gandalf? Can anyone?” Gandalf was silent for a long while, the weight of the question resting heavily upon him. He had seen so much, fought so long, and yet even now, there were mysteries beyond his understanding. “No,” Gandalf finally said, his voice filled with both sadness and acceptance. “I cannot.” Bombadil turned to him with a smile, though there was kindness in his eyes. “And that, my friend, is why mercy is greater than wisdom. We cannot know the fates of all, but we can show kindness where it is in our power. That is the gift we can give to this world.” Gandalf nodded slowly, his heart lighter. “You are wise, Tom. Far wiser than many realize.”'
That's what pissed me off immediately about this show. These are no elven faces. Even the humans in Lord of the Rings look more elven than any elf in this garbage.
13:35 I disagree with you about this one, a beautiful woman can be evil, yet she is still beautiful... beauty is an aesthetic category, not a moral one. A common human prejudice : angels are beautiful and good, demons are hideous and evil, same as Elves vs Orcs.... but then again, can't Lucifer himself (or in this case Sauron) take aesthetically beautiful form? Are ugIy people inherently evil? Reminds me of Quasimodo from The Hunchback of Notre-Dame by Victor Hugo. p.s. I agree with the rest of your points, dialogue in RoP is ludicrous .
The best parts of RoP are on Charlie Hopkinson's channel during the watch parties with Gandalf, Boromir, Elrond, and others. It's the only way to watch RoP!
😅😅😅 Beautifully said No sense in the movies The war scenes were wasted, no chills, no planning, just attack! 😅. Questions still unanswered since season 1
What I found really annoying, aside from everything else, is how certain sound effects and sound in general is mismatched and poorly done - almost like it was rushed. LOTR and even Hobbit had peerless sound editing and thoughtful placement. Two stark examples from this show - Elrond's charge felt very weird - like they cut some speech from the edit and the general sound balance was way too off and quiet - for a scene that should depict rather serious tone. Second example is from previous episode, when Elendil is going to get tried by Valar - when those soldiers sounded the trumpets, they almost immediately cut off the sound - like it didn't have any echo, resonance or strength. All in all, sound editing feels very rushed and done without any supervision. Even the staff that edit this show gave up on it.
Would’ve been cool if the king disregards the sun shafts because those rings, and their mining exploits guided by a ring, made them rich beyond anything. Then the phrase of king durin makes sense. Perhaps this was the writers idea, but was changed and they forgot durin making this statement.
Loved the video, my only issue was the name thing - the objection is unfounded because this is supposed to be a magical fantasy world, and it's a common fantasy trope that names link us to something essential deep within. It's more Ursula Le Guin than Tolkien, but it's still a known trope - nothing wrong with using it in ROP. Extending it to staves, though... yeah, that's just asinine.
Yeah it's been terrible. The writing is awful, so cringy in places. But also structurally, everything feels rushed but at the same time dragged out in the moment. I feel there are some good ideas beneath it all, it's just the writers aren't clever enough to make it satisfying. That's it. They don't have the intellect to make it more dense and rewarding in terms of emotional +intellectual payoffs. It's swooning fan fiction. Why did they put really inexperienced showrunners in charge of this? It was never going to work. Oh, and so many of the roles are miscast - Celebrimbor, Elrond and the dwarves are so twee, it's so cringy. I'd respect the showrunners more if they'd ignored the PJ films completely and just made their own LOTR universe with a completely different vibe (less effete Elves and less teddy bear dwarves). Why not manly, muscly elves with short hair (I know some of them are, but why not all) and taller, beardless dwarves to distinguish Rings of Power from all that's gone before? I would have liked that more.
Let's make it easy for them rumors are like Fool's Gold could seem to have value but are empty promises also relates to drawers and Mining, that was so easy
I've said "what?" more times during the show than my whole life, many of them because of the dialogue. There's no natural progression, reactions are out of left field, sentences make no sense, the music doesn't match the dialogue or scene.. Manipulators and gaslighters talk this way. Using ambiguous words and sentences of which they know what the common interpretation will be, and then punish you for believing the common interpretation. In this example it's not just words, but a whole scene: The kiss heard around the world. "Everyone knows" that Elblond is kissing his mother in law, they used music that is designed for romantic scenes, but then people/shills call us stupid for not knowing that it was a ploy to hand her a brochepin (which another atrocity on its own) and my favourite "they aren't married here". Ignoring the lore where she married Celeborn at the end of FA. So they set up an ambiguous scene, knowing it would piss us off, making us doubt our own interpretations via earlier stated arguments, repeat this ploy scene after scene (death by a 1000 cuts) so that one day we will have no brain left and start liking the show. People like you help us navigate through this darkness, making sure we don't start doubting ourselves and keep true to our feelings that something is off. In case you want to know why things are off; they lack substance and truth but seem so pretty and truthful on the outside. Just like the entire show is. Funny how they manipulate us so well but Annatar's "deceptions" make no sense.
The dialogue isn't great. But the second season is nowhere near as bad as the first. I think the actors have been largely excellent. The FX are fine. Not top tier. But good enough for a mini-series. If anything they were probably hindered by being caught between something original and sticking to the text. In the end it was neither one or the other. If the showrunners had their time again I think they would have gone much closer to being completely original.
Wtf is this? I know the show is bad and all and believe me I've shared my thoughts on the subject but this is hilarious you're trying so hard to make up stuff like that rumor and bird thing, I bet the writers did not even think about the things you're saying just stop man, jeez
@@MuhammedRivaz cordially disagree and this man should keep going. Taking apart the phrases is a good approach to learn about languages. The substitute idea he provided for the analogy was very good and people can learn a lot from deconstructing language. A helpful tool especially for those who are being manipulated/gaslit with pretty words.
A lesson these writers should learn about profundity: Tolkien wasn't just using big words or really trying to be any more profound than the base messages given in his dialogue.
He had such a mastery over the English language that he could articulate small, seemingly insignificant ideas in such a beautiful way that it seems profound to the readers or viewers. He wasn't just "using big words" as RoP writers seem to think he did. He used his knowledge of the English language to get through to us these simple messages of peace and love and good that is worth fighting for. You can't boil a writing style like Tolkien's to a single word like "mystical", or "profound" because of how deep his works are, and it's even more insulting to his work that the showrunners genuinely thought that is how an adaptation of Tolkien should be written.
I recorded an excerpt from Fellowship a couple of days ago, for my channel. I read lots of books aloud there. As I was reading aloud I became aware of something that stood out from other books. The way Tolkien uses words and sentences unfolds naturally, and your mind’s eye does not have to go back and fill in details that are presented in the wrong order.
More than that, the sentences have a RHYTHM… not just the words used, but the order and cadence of them. It’s hard to explain, but as a musician I could feel the backbeat underneath informing the way the story comes out. I can’t stop thinking about it.
"In the land of Morrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrdorrrrrrrrrrrrr, in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Saurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrron forged, in secret, a master ring to control all others"
Some of the dialogue is so torturous it should be banned by the Geneva Convention.
The show is indeed a crime against humanity.
Well done good Sir!
Just as an aside, Cirdan has NEVER been to Valinor, how would he know how "perfect" it is? Yeah, writing is hard, when you work in Hollyweird.
The one thing worse than incompetence is the hackery coupled to unbridled arrogance, which makes even utter incompetence lazy. This reduces merely atrocious writing to the level of idiocy. Indeed illiteracy would be an improvement.
So accurately & succinctly said.
Well said.
@@zzevonplant If it were succinct it would only have the last line.
4:50 " are you glowing yet Billy?" 😂
Idk why but that made me spit out my water laughing
Those exaggerated crrrringy rolling rrrrrr's is what really puts the final unimaginary nail in the coffin.
Apparently that's very original to how Tolkien wanted his language pronounced but I completely agree... I think I involuntarily roll my eyes every time it happens now.
@@luckyowl6432 Tolkien would have probably preferred the softer Italian-like rolling than the exaggerated Hispanic one, given his background as a linguist and Latin scholar.
@@TheDen-ec9xe Even the Hispanics I work with don't roll their R's as much as RoP does, and their accents are thick as heck. XD
@@TaoScribble True hahahaha
@@luckyowl6432 There are recordings of JRR Tolkien reading the Lord of the Rings. Some are on TH-cam. He doesn't engage in the exaggerated guttural rolling of ROP.
The actors aren’t convincing whatsoever. Like a bunch of cosplayers trying their best imitation of PJ’s films. It’s embarrassing.
💯💯💯
Well, this at least gives me hope for the dialogue in my books 🤣
The best part of watching these critiques is learning how to better my own writing by knowing precisely what NOT to do.
@@JaidynReiman yup, lol
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Yeh you're "books" are probably pure push too 😅😅😅
@@Joe-rk9uy Collect your black speech and steer it off a cliff like dewdrops off a spoon.
But seriously, you can't know their writing, and your use of "you're" is wrong. Typical internet discourse, there's always that one person who baselessly says "I bet you're stupid and bad" just to be a jerk lol
I want 5 seasons just to watch these reviews. :D
I think the point of the songbird metaphor is that you could eat the bird but it wouldn't provide much nutrition. It's still horrible.
The worst part is that dwarves have nothing to do with songbirds who live in forests, not in deep underground caves.
That first part of the metaphor made a connection between the sound of the rumor to a songbirds song (otherwise why make it a songbird rather than another small bird?). Then it pivots to saying that if you eat the bird it wouldn't be filling. Which left me the impression that they were trying to say that you can't eat sound?? Fucking horrid phrase.
@@helenwhs If I give them the most credit I think they're trying to say that a songbird may lure you with its sound because it signals there's potential prey. But a songbird is so small that it doesn't feed you as well as for example a chicken, whose noise doesn't sound as inviting as the songbird's.
But it's worded so clumsily that this whole discussing and puzzling is an embarrassment for Amazon already, and the metaphor doesn't fit dwarf culture at all, even if we say that someone who grew up in a cave for all their life would be unknowledge enough to fall for said bird.
ROFL, rolling those Rs like a pro. Celebrrrimborrr.
Fantastic video - you deserve all the subscribers!
This wasn't written by ChatGPT. None of it. I know this because I prompted chat GPT to write a scene where Bombadil was the first to say the "Can you give it to them?" line. Compare this to the show, and tell me it's not far better:
'The trees of the Old Forest rustled in the soft evening breeze, their leaves whispering secrets in a language older than elves. Birds chirped, and the sun dipped low, casting long shadows over the ancient woods. A gentle melody floated on the air, the sound of a voice as old as the hills, singing to the rhythm of the earth itself.
Gandalf, now dressed once more in his grey robes, walked slowly along the edge of the trees. His staff tapped the ground lightly as he moved with purpose, yet his heart was not heavy as it had been in the days of war. He felt the world beginning to heal, but there were questions in his mind-questions that had lingered through the ages.
As if in answer to his thoughts, the singing grew louder. Ahead of him, seated on a fallen tree, was Tom Bombadil. He wore his blue coat and his bright yellow boots, his hat adorned with a long feather swaying as he bobbed his head in rhythm. His eyes sparkled like sunlight on a rippling brook.
“Hey dol! Merry dol! Ring-a-dong-dillo!” Bombadil sang, laughing as he spotted the wizard. “Old Gandalf is wandering, out in the green fields! What brings you, oh Greyhame, to my borders once more?”
Gandalf smiled, his old eyes twinkling with a mixture of amusement and curiosity. “I had a feeling I might find you here, Tom. The world has changed much since last we met.”
“Changed, yes, and still the same in many ways!” Bombadil hopped down from his perch, as spry as ever, and approached Gandalf, a wide grin on his face. “The birds still sing, the trees still grow. Seasons turn, wind blows. But the world beyond the woods, ah, that’s what troubles you, I think.”
Gandalf chuckled. “As always, you are more than you seem. Yes, the world beyond your woods has been through much. The Dark Lord is gone. The Ring is unmade. But there are still shadows that linger-questions that remain.”
Bombadil’s face softened, and for a moment, his gaze grew distant. He was not often serious, but something in Gandalf’s words struck a chord. “Ah, the long dark and deep waters. The old wounds of the world, scars that do not heal with the turning of the age. What weighs on your mind, Gandalf?”
Gandalf leaned on his staff and sighed. “So much death, Tom. So much loss. Sauron’s evil claimed many lives-some innocent, some guilty. And yet... I wonder. What of those who perished in darkness? Could they not have been redeemed? Even Gollum, in the end, played his part in the undoing of evil. But there are others-those who did not have a chance.”
Tom Bombadil’s eyes twinkled again, though his smile was softer now, filled with ancient understanding. He sat on a nearby stone, gesturing for Gandalf to do the same.
“Ah, you ponder the great question. Life and death, who is worthy of what fate? A hard riddle for even the wisest of wizards.” Bombadil chuckled, his tone gentle. “You speak of mercy. Perhaps you, Gandalf, already know the answer, deep in your heart.”
Gandalf sat beside him, feeling the quiet power of the earth beneath his feet. “I have always believed in mercy, yes. But sometimes, I question whether my choices were right. The lives that were lost... Could I have done more?”
Bombadil reached down and plucked a single flower, holding it up to the fading light. “Old Tom knows this world well, Gandalf. The flowers bloom, the trees grow tall, but all things must fade in time. Some pass in peace, and others... by violence or hatred. Yet life is not something easily judged.”
He turned, his bright blue eyes fixing on Gandalf’s. “Do you remember what I told Frodo, when he came to my house? The barrow-wight, a dark soul long lost, was sent away, but not destroyed. Evil may fall, but it may also rise again, in strange forms. And yet, not all dark things are beyond hope.”
Gandalf nodded, his face thoughtful.
Bombadil rose suddenly, casting the flower into the wind. “And so, dear Gandalf, do you ask yourself who deserves to live? Who deserves to die? It is a question beyond even the Valar, I reckon. For what is death but a door? Some who pass through it deserve life again, and some who live may not yet be ready for it.”
The wizard’s breath caught. He turned to Bombadil, sensing the gravity of his words.
The old forest-dweller paused, gazing out over the ancient trees, his voice quiet yet resonating with ancient wisdom.
“Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Gandalf? Can anyone?”
Gandalf was silent for a long while, the weight of the question resting heavily upon him. He had seen so much, fought so long, and yet even now, there were mysteries beyond his understanding.
“No,” Gandalf finally said, his voice filled with both sadness and acceptance. “I cannot.”
Bombadil turned to him with a smile, though there was kindness in his eyes. “And that, my friend, is why mercy is greater than wisdom. We cannot know the fates of all, but we can show kindness where it is in our power. That is the gift we can give to this world.”
Gandalf nodded slowly, his heart lighter. “You are wise, Tom. Far wiser than many realize.”'
The prospect of 3 more seasons of this makes me both ill and exited, strange mix of feelings
I wish I could have chosen my own name
Let them go to the Penguin directors for some lessons, the first episode is awesome
Great analysis
Everyone just looks "off." Pinched faces, short... nothing ethereal going on at al.
That's what pissed me off immediately about this show. These are no elven faces. Even the humans in Lord of the Rings look more elven than any elf in this garbage.
What the hell is Bombadil's accent supposed to be?
My guy! where have you been all this time?
This horrible show summoned me back from the dead
this is high level stuff, love how you think. MORE ANALYSIS of THIS show plz.
13:35 I disagree with you about this one, a beautiful woman can be evil, yet she is still beautiful... beauty is an aesthetic category, not a moral one. A common human prejudice : angels are beautiful and good, demons are hideous and evil, same as Elves vs Orcs.... but then again, can't Lucifer himself (or in this case Sauron) take aesthetically beautiful form? Are ugIy people inherently evil? Reminds me of Quasimodo from The Hunchback of Notre-Dame by Victor Hugo.
p.s. I agree with the rest of your points, dialogue in RoP is ludicrous .
The dialogue got slower and infested by too many RRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrs.
The writers of Father Ted should have written for ROP...going to kick souring up the arrrrrrrse
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRings of Powerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
The best parts of RoP are on Charlie Hopkinson's channel during the watch parties with Gandalf, Boromir, Elrond, and others. It's the only way to watch RoP!
The sea is always wet! 🤓
😅😅😅
Beautifully said
No sense in the movies
The war scenes were wasted, no chills, no planning, just attack! 😅. Questions still unanswered since season 1
The stories are so disjointed😅
The over explaining of what we can obviously see.
All said and done folks, my favorites are:
The sea is always right
Do you know why a ship floats and a stone cannot
There js a tempest in her
😅
@@michellembaeze2010 Let us never forget: "Give me the meat, and give it to me raw!"
They wanted to sound deep. Yet it’s so so so dum.
My wife and I hate watch this for some laughs.
Why are you torturing your wife like that?!
S'dark, man.
My first romantacy novel has better dialogue.
This writing is a joke.
Liked and subbed!
What I found really annoying, aside from everything else, is how certain sound effects and sound in general is mismatched and poorly done - almost like it was rushed. LOTR and even Hobbit had peerless sound editing and thoughtful placement. Two stark examples from this show - Elrond's charge felt very weird - like they cut some speech from the edit and the general sound balance was way too off and quiet - for a scene that should depict rather serious tone. Second example is from previous episode, when Elendil is going to get tried by Valar - when those soldiers sounded the trumpets, they almost immediately cut off the sound - like it didn't have any echo, resonance or strength. All in all, sound editing feels very rushed and done without any supervision. Even the staff that edit this show gave up on it.
Just like HOTD has fallen, the moral of ROP is don't disrespect the source material.
Don't compare hotd to this pish mate they aren't on the same level 😅😅😅
Gil-Galad's one-liner to the troll: "Go back to your hill and be buried!" - that's a literary gem for the ages.
Would’ve been cool if the king disregards the sun shafts because those rings, and their mining exploits guided by a ring, made them rich beyond anything. Then the phrase of king durin makes sense. Perhaps this was the writers idea, but was changed and they forgot durin making this statement.
You sound like the TH-camr Nyrion . Damn
Funny that writers go on strike for more $$$, and this is what you get
Sauron is behind this
Dark Lord Bezos the Pink
Loved the video, my only issue was the name thing - the objection is unfounded because this is supposed to be a magical fantasy world, and it's a common fantasy trope that names link us to something essential deep within. It's more Ursula Le Guin than Tolkien, but it's still a known trope - nothing wrong with using it in ROP.
Extending it to staves, though... yeah, that's just asinine.
Yeah it's been terrible. The writing is awful, so cringy in places. But also structurally, everything feels rushed but at the same time dragged out in the moment.
I feel there are some good ideas beneath it all, it's just the writers aren't clever enough to make it satisfying. That's it. They don't have the intellect to make it more dense and rewarding in terms of emotional +intellectual payoffs. It's swooning fan fiction. Why did they put really inexperienced showrunners in charge of this? It was never going to work.
Oh, and so many of the roles are miscast - Celebrimbor, Elrond and the dwarves are so twee, it's so cringy. I'd respect the showrunners more if they'd ignored the PJ films completely and just made their own LOTR universe with a completely different vibe (less effete Elves and less teddy bear dwarves). Why not manly, muscly elves with short hair (I know some of them are, but why not all) and taller, beardless dwarves to distinguish Rings of Power from all that's gone before? I would have liked that more.
This show is as treacherous as the sea (which is always right, by the way) so you'll love it and despair!
Love this analysis. Great work
Three rings for the elves because one will corrupt and two will divide. Galadri-dumb explains it. Why then 7 for the dwarves and 9 for men? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Let's make it easy for them rumors are like Fool's Gold could seem to have value but are empty promises also relates to drawers and Mining, that was so easy
I've said "what?" more times during the show than my whole life, many of them because of the dialogue.
There's no natural progression, reactions are out of left field, sentences make no sense, the music doesn't match the dialogue or scene..
Manipulators and gaslighters talk this way.
Using ambiguous words and sentences of which they know what the common interpretation will be, and then punish you for believing the common interpretation. In this example it's not just words, but a whole scene: The kiss heard around the world. "Everyone knows" that Elblond is kissing his mother in law, they used music that is designed for romantic scenes, but then people/shills call us stupid for not knowing that it was a ploy to hand her a brochepin (which another atrocity on its own) and my favourite "they aren't married here". Ignoring the lore where she married Celeborn at the end of FA.
So they set up an ambiguous scene, knowing it would piss us off, making us doubt our own interpretations via earlier stated arguments, repeat this ploy scene after scene (death by a 1000 cuts) so that one day we will have no brain left and start liking the show. People like you help us navigate through this darkness, making sure we don't start doubting ourselves and keep true to our feelings that something is off.
In case you want to know why things are off; they lack substance and truth but seem so pretty and truthful on the outside. Just like the entire show is. Funny how they manipulate us so well but Annatar's "deceptions" make no sense.
GIVE ME THE MEAT, AND GIVE IT TO ME RAW!
Facts
4:55 in 😂😂😂
Saurrrrrrrrrrrrrron 😂
100% terrible writers but season 2 is better to watch than the first season.
The dialogue isn't great. But the second season is nowhere near as bad as the first. I think the actors have been largely excellent. The FX are fine. Not top tier. But good enough for a mini-series. If anything they were probably hindered by being caught between something original and sticking to the text. In the end it was neither one or the other. If the showrunners had their time again I think they would have gone much closer to being completely original.
Wtf is this? I know the show is bad and all and believe me I've shared my thoughts on the subject but this is hilarious you're trying so hard to make up stuff like that rumor and bird thing, I bet the writers did not even think about the things you're saying just stop man, jeez
Indeed they didn't think, thank you for proving my point. Some brain activity is required to write dialogue.
You have the brain of a 3-year-old if you like this show.
@aktchungrabanio6467 Hello. No, I don't like this show. I don't like people beating around the bush for content.
@@MuhammedRivaz cordially disagree and this man should keep going. Taking apart the phrases is a good approach to learn about languages. The substitute idea he provided for the analogy was very good and people can learn a lot from deconstructing language. A helpful tool especially for those who are being manipulated/gaslit with pretty words.
@jessicapinto3817 oh no one is being manipulated by the dialogue of this nonsense show in fact it's rather hilarious