i think its more an expression for getting lost, backtracking so you wont cross your own path, going down your same path which would be considered turning around from the path you're trying to take which is to cover all possible directions which involves backtracking, not crossing paths xD
God I remember my first time playing fallout 3, I managed to stumble upon vault 108. I was exploring it and looting what I could, when I saw a guy in a vault suit coming towards me. Being new to the game and relatively naive I made the assumption that this guy was friendly. NOPE. Things only got worse from there on as I found out that not only was the vault filled with his clones, but I also found out exactly why you shouldn't rely solely on alcohol and drugs to heal you. Plus I've got horrible aim so I stick to melee weapons rather than ranged weaponry
@@phoenixc6812 Most Pacifists don’t believe in conflict of any kind, even self defense. So “were” is a great term in describing them because being a pacifist just generally wouldn’t work out in a post-apocalyptic wasteland lol.
Taking a life to protect your own tho? If your a pice of shit that does nothing for anyone, i can see why you wouldnt wanna live But if you are a blessing to everyone around you, why leave earlier then god intended? Fuck that dudes attempt on your life
To me this vault sounds like one of the saddest tragedies. I felt so sad that Tyrone tried to save them for so long only to have his very fears happen. He lost his future mother-in-law, his new fiancé, his new friends, and even his own life.
@@sterenn726 Their agenda was to figure out why the 1st Society didn’t work out, so all the experiments were conducted in order to understand the human condition better and what not to do. But that doesn’t even somewhat justify the shit they did, they clearly had gotten carried away.
@@groundbloom9143 Yet the data was never collected or uploaded, meaning it was merely for their own "pleasure", and not out of real scientific curiosity.
This tops vault 11 for me, I was shocked at what vault tec did there but with vault 94 I’m just angry, at vault tec for taking advantage of such kind naïve people and the mayor of harpers ferry for putting faith in blindly ignorant dults wielding guns...it’s the kind of anger where you wish we got out of the vault sooner to help them
Right? Even thinking about it makes my blood boil, they could've been amazing. If only it'd been a ten year waiting period instead of just one, if only the counsel had listened to Tyrone once, maybe this would've turned out so much better. Maybe there would be a city known as the Wasteland's greatest oasis.
"Even opening the doors a year after the bomb dropped seems pretty wreckless to me." Remember: Vault 111 had only a 180 days lockdown and food supply for the staff and they waited for the clearing signal from Vault Tec....that never came.
“Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow”.
Hey, Harold was not that bad of a fellow.... even if he did end up becoming an object of worship by a bunch of cultists who were almost as nuts as the Children of Atom.
10:20 "Surely they didn't blame Tyrone, its not his fault." *Me working from 5am to 3PM with people who blame me for not being able to finish my duties around the house while they slack off*
Yeah, if you have ever worked a service sector job, you know that people blame "workers" for anything and everything. I'm an EMT and have been blamed for how high health insurance costs are because I took a coffee break (while statused available, I might add!)... Just people being people...
@@lancebot8224 I'm pretty certain that your picture is indeed Kirito with cat ears and whiskers. Looks like his early equipment from what I can tell. (...I've only watched SAO once like 4 years ago btw... I'm just weirdly good at remembering random things like character outfits)
To be fair... They never got a "chance" to change. The very foundation of their existence led them to having no caution, no precautions, not even something as simple as the basic defense of a locked room, to talk to people inside, so as to try to convinced them, and only then either reject their arrival, or let them in. They just left the door wide open, then sat all, seemingly in one room, for what ever came. And, what came was violent, and ignorant, and paranoid, and willing to kill everyone on sight. What "opportunity" did they have really, even with one single person trying to convince them to be more careful, to recognize that change was even needed, let alone choose it?
@@patrickelliott2169 the wording of their instructions was leading them to help the people of the wasteland. Vault Tec’s experiments were inherently flawed, not only because they ignored any ethical considerations but because they basically forced their test subjects to choose the pacifist route. Oxhorn was right, they should’ve had a locked room with guns that they could’ve voted to open. They likely wouldn’t have voted to open it, but at least it gave them the choice to. And all of their instructions were directly telling them to help the wastelanders and to open up the doors. Poorly designed experiment
@@tealablu3759 Hmm. Yeah, Vault Tech isn't exactly known for their "good" experiments, but... in this case these people, without some way to stay separate from hostiles, where doomed no matter what, because, even, as you say, they "had" such a room, they would have never opened it.
@@patrickelliott2169 agreed I’m just aggravated because this was a poorly designed experiment that baited the residents into the expected result rather than letting the residents pick for themselves
How do you mean "change"? Dude's a decent guy whereas his Superiors were all "Fuck these people psychologically because.... science,all you need to know is it's science.."
They weren't exactly "willing to die for their beliefs", they genuinely believed they could reason with the people outside the vault. They weren't exactly martyrs, they were mistaken.
The bad thing about pacifist is that their beliefs make them extremely dangerous to innocent people around them who are less capable of defending themselves. The great thing about pacifist is that they die pretty fast for their beliefs lol.
@@BlogingLP Exactly. Pacifism is a luxury of living in a society of plenty for everyone, in a situation like this a single year after the end of the world, the weak and harmless are gonna be nothing but fodder for the folks that are gonna survive.
@@northvanguy621 But they also had plenty. If plenty is truly what allows humans to become civilized then they had no reason to expect people to be violent when presented with a world of plenty they were allowed to freely join, take from or trade with at leisure. It doesn't paint a good picture of humanity that, upon being presented such a world, the outsiders kill the people who aren't even keeping items from them and are working to create more.
@@prettyevil6662000in hard times the strong survive by any means, the weak and foolish will always die as their genes aren't condusive to survival. Its the basic law of all things, that which is strong survives that which is weak dies and leaves more for the rest.
I recently (a year ago) had an electrical fire at work and people thought it was funny that I self evacuated at the first announcement. I yellled that there was an emergency due to a fire and then speed walked out checking hallways and the stair well as I went. The hallway had visible smoke and everything stank. I was out of the building in less than a minute and my coworker had to go to the hospital for a breathing treatment. Never take your safety for granted and if there is an audible alarm take it seriously until proven otherwise. We have many alarms that I monitor at work and funny enough this one did not have an audible alarm, just a digital and then some system failures. We had a wall on fire that was connected to 860 volts. Fucking amazing.
Vault 94 community could have lasted longer, after all if the Responders or smarter folk from Harpers Ferry had got there first, but clearly Cole & his men were on the verge of becoming Raiders, with the same selfish destructive attitudes of the folk at up at the Top of the World.... Is there a possible connection between Cole and David & Rosie at Top of the World -spies or agents for them???
This Cole can be found as a Feral ghoul with the rest of his team in G.E.C.K. room in Final stage of the Vault (Raid) Mission: Meltdown. (you have to defend containment shield from Hoard of Feral ghouls.) Which I enjoy killing them everytime.
This one always made me sad… Tyrone really tried to save these people… But the odds were already set against him from day one after the second bus was late… then it was only made worse when he realized he was the overseer and had to follow valt tecs horrible experiment… he was just a STUDENT! He tried to fix it… he really did… But since the Pastor was already against him from day one, it was no surprise she ignored his warnings even AFTER the truth was revealed… she was a stubborn woman, and she was just so hopeful to PROVE him wrong… oh what a cost… The SADDEST out of ALL of it… those men were just so skeptical and sus, they INSTANTLY just went into attack mode when they were TOLD just to check it out! She would have been right had the RIGHT people came to see them… In the end… i see both were right… yes there are good people… but as well, there is a balance, where there is good there is bad… sadly… bad won that day…
This vault could have simply been a test for Tyrone Hayes. Would he reveal his true purpose, tell the pacifists the world has gone to crap and they really need to praise the Lord and pass the ammunition?
If only the dwellers of vault 94 could’ve been more like that sky pilot (Air Corps Chaplain) aboard that bomber in that song, who picked up the .50 cal and opened fire on the enemy aircraft when he was asked to say a prayer for one of the gunners who was killed seconds prior. We all know what came next
Pacifists in any kind of era or setting are doomed from the day 1. They are basically fat sheep just waiting to be used by others. Once you stop fighting for your own survival, you turn into a livestock at best.
@@Th0rinek Full pacifist could exist by themselves if there's no outside interaction, would also need some kind of negative feedback for aggressive behaviour or else its just an unstable equilibrium, as the first person to turn non-pacifist would screw things up. Full pacifist could also exist with the help of peacekeepers, the kind of people that enforce peace with force. Most people in first world country partially live that way, give your money to the robber and do nothing, one day the police will catch them. When it comes to your own survival its a bit different but if there's other people around you making sure there's consequences for messing with you then you can get away with full pacifism.
@@M4niacks2 Once you start enforcing your rules with force, its no longer a pacifist community, even if the ones doing it, the said peacekeepers are not part of the community.
@@Th0rinek What if it's not their rules, what if they disagree with the peacekeeer methods and even protest against it. The same way they cannot stop the violence that would be used against them they cannot stop the violence of the peacekeeper. Does that make them less pacifist?
This has got to be one of the most frustrating vaults you've covered, specifically this could have all been avoided multiple times. The residence could have kept themselves locked up. They could have listened to Tyrone. The mayor could have gone instead of those trigger happy morons who literally shot a G.E.C.K, what baffles me the most if this "scouting party" didn't even think about reporting what they saw and just started killing. They deserved the deaths they got, but it won't make up for the devastation those fools caused.
'' man kind fears what they do not understand '' they never saw people like the ones living in the vault, humans are competitive in the best of situations and it dangerous to anyone and anything in the worse, so seeing people soo willing to share every thing they became suspicious of them and assumed trickery, its even worse if you combined that with living in the world after nukes drop for a year, the shock of the world changing and gears turning towards survival, and more when you add ignorance on top of it all, they clearly were not educated, the way they spoke the actions they toke, it shows that they were not exactly of the class of people to apply any critical thinking , its a pie of every thing that could happen, happening, enthusiastic charitable sheltered pacifists meeting paranoid post nuke war hyper survivalists in a mysterious place with bad leadership for the first and no leadership for the second, and on top of it all catalyst for all kinds of change, FFS
Absolutely the best at it. I have started playing that way ever since I watched his lore videos on Fallout 3, NV, and 4. I come here looking for the video he made after the fact to see what I missed.
Unfortunately he shouldn’t have, both her and her father(the pastor) were idiots and horrible, glad they got the fate they got. Tyrone was the only true homie, rip 🪦
I feel like Vault Tec KNEW Whoever they selected to be the secret Overseer would spill the beans. It’s kinda like “Yeah you know, but no one will believe you, or will hate you”
I absolutely hated this vault, i first entered it without power armor and got absolutely recked by the mirelurk kings that are in there, it left me with broken armor, broken weapons, no stimpaks , no ammo , RIP
There was one legendary mirelurk king in residential, bugged or glitched for sure. Even with poison resistent armour it would kill me in seconds even if i spammed stimpacks because they wouldn't heal fast enough.
MEANWHILE AT THE ENTRANCE TO VAULT 76 ... I'm shooting at nobbs and dropping hundreds of stimpaks radaway and a couple thousand .38 rounds purified water food xD
This is ultimately why I'm an advocate of pragmatic pacifism - that is, nonviolence unless my survival and the survival of those I care about are at risk. I won't start or seek out fights, but I sure as hell will defend myself.
@@Shadethewolfy . I think that this Vault served to see if Tyrone would become a dictator out of necessity to save these people. That's what happened to Vault 101 with The Overseer there (Amata's dad). From what we know, he made the decisions that he made out of fear. People died due to massive paranoia over the radiation and the Rad Roaches. As far as the people there knew, Death was around the corner cause their safety wall had been knocked down with the Vault door opening. The Overseer turned into a dictator overtime to try to help the people and to keep them safe. 101 always fascinated me cause the Overseers said Hell with Reclamation, we are keeping the door closed and staying here. So they broke their oath to Vault Tec and stayed safe as a result. This could have been the plan of Vault Tec all along to see the long term experimentation of a single leader in charge of people in an enclosed environment. Perhaps this experiment with Vault 94 was similar, especially with the no weapons aspect. Perhaps Vault Tec did this so that if Tyrone were to take power, he couldn't be overpowered
Blow up 5 planets with a shotgun laser... Or one experimental boi trapped in a 1950's cartoon with Dennis the Menace as the baseline. At least we can all agree that those five planets only lasted several seconds compared to YEARS of inhumane experiments.
If you are talking about the galactic empire? yeeeeeeea uuuuh... look up the blackwing virus. The empire did some fucked up stuff, almost as bad as vaul tec
It's not only that they are morally wrong and twisted, but they are *so stupid* and scientifically without any worth, even if you read past the problematic setup. Take this one for example: What do we learn from this experiment? That people who have no guns are easy targets for people with guns who are willing to use them? Wow, big news... Like he said in the video: It would've been an experiment to give them a weapons chamber *FULL* of devestating weaponry but lock it behind council approved access. THEN we could've judged if they changed their ways - but the way it unfolded, they were ants under the boots of bigger animals and never ahd a chance to be anything else. The entire vault, even if operating as intended, produced no result whatsoever...
It reminds me of my 100 level psych classes. It would be a mix of the intro level psych majors mixed with all the other majors that were there for their required semester of a social science. The requirements to move on generally consisted of spell psychology and name one psychologist. Being a Vault-Tec facility I'm guessing the best of the best was probably the worst there was and simply being told they were the best until they believed it.
That comparison is 100% perfect. “Alright, today we’re playing the only game where you get to ruin the lives of people with nuclear fallout, it’s Vault-Tec Simulator… more nuclear fallout damn it”
54:40 if you look closely at the skeleton you'll noticed that there is a rag in it's mouth and a bone saw by it's right hand. This guy in particular tried to free himself by cutting his arm off but most likely fell unconscious from the pain and bleed out. There is also the other skeleton of someone getting tangled in vines while trying to fight back with a weed-eater which leads me to believe that not all of vault 94's residents were slaughtered by Cole and his men but based on the Geck holotape they didn't show any remorse for their actions upon realizing that the dwellers had no weapons.
54:38 yeah I’ve been to this vault and I noticed the Skeleton is biting down on a Dishrag and has a bonesaw in their right hand. They amputated their left arm and bled out before being able to make it to the first aid kit. An even more gruesome and tragic fate
Vault 111 only waited 180 days Then pretended they never open the door But open it every few years for supplies. . . Hell galf of megaton wanted into the vault at one point from the legend of the open vault
Paranoid ignorant raiders ignored, in reality the worst type of radiation decays away within about 3-5 days after the last bomb goes off. The stuff that kills you in seconds. After that you've got the kind that afflicts you in the game as you treck into certain areas, which can take centuries to millennia to decay away completely and depending on the amount of it in an area it can kill you either in minutes, or decades. In theory depending on your terrain, how far away the nearest nuke fell, which way the wind usually blows, and what the weather was shortly after the bombs fell you could go outside again the same week that the bombs fell, or be trapped in your shelter for several hundred years.
I wish somehow when we entered a vault it played a cutscene showing what it used to be like in it's thriving state so when we see it afterwards it has more effect on us.
I have a feeling he knows that a chunk of his viewer base listens to his content more than they watch. Allows for the theater of the mind to paint the picture. Very cool 😎
Even if Mayor had sent competent people, this approach by the Vault dwellers would not have ended in their favor at all. Raiders and Slavers would have been all over this place in due time. The only hope that these people would have had would be if they supplied food, medicine, and water to Brotherhood Of Steel for protection (like Three Dog did) and yet even if they got protection by Brotherhood Of Steel, they would run out of supplies far quicker as a result. On paper, equality sounds fantastic and yet that isn't how the world operates. Everyone isn't going to take their fair share out of it being the right thing to do. Some would rather take the entire pie rather than have one slice.
@@Deadsea_1993 "vault 94 failed" is NOT anywhere NEAR the same statement as "equality stupid". Do you REALLY think that's the message the devs were trying to send with this game series? We don't live in that world. That's the point. It's a criticism of violence, not an endorsement. Being a defeatist is being dead weight. If true equality is possible, we'll never fucking get there if everyone has your outlook. Violence is for the lazy.
So, about Antonio, I'm going to say that he knew. They chose the voice actor and dialogue intentionally. He sounded somewhat creepy and evil. They didn't mention how high up on the ladder he was in Vault-Tech, but if he already knew enough details about what kind of people they were looking for, he probably knew the experiment too. It's the ultimate revenge too: strip your target of revenge of either their life or their beliefs. As an added bonus, just maybe he could turn the daughter against her mother. That's my take on it at least. Still, you could be right and he was just being the best father and ex-husband he could be under the circumstances. Just saying the selection of voice actor made it seem super sinister and eerie. I'm certain that was both the developer's and the voice actor's intent, not random chance.
I have to agree with you. He knew, but I don't think he intended or expected her or his daughter's death. I see a man that was stripped of his family and his religion, forced to change his beliefs to survive by joining vault tec. Remember, she excommunicated him from the congregation. So he put her in a situation to force her to do the same. Otherwise, he purposely sacrificed his daughter to have his ex get hers...I don't see that.
Agree, he knew and he probably either bitter about the excommunication or he hate the whole congregation and their believes. Remember the Vault is for the whole congregation. If he somehow managed a spot for his ex-wife and daughter only, I may argue he is just being a good father and ex-husband.
They would do what they always do. Take the vault and everything in it for themselves and leave the residents homeless to suck eggs with nothing. Trained, organized and well mannered raiders are still raiders. "Ad ViCtOrIuM~" derher :F >:(
@@frostwitch7234 Naw fam depends on which Chapter if they still follow Lyon's ideology then the vault dwellers be aight, but if the follow Roger Maxsons descendant new way then they fooked.
Can you comment on how the emergency procedures affected the vault? In response to the nuclear incident the second protocol activates but can't reach the sealed GECK. Protocol 3 activates and begins flooding the vault giving plenty of water for future plants. This triggers protocol 1 and closes doors in a circuitous fashion, leading to people having to knock holes in the vault to help drain water. These three protocols seem to explain why the path is long, how the mirelurks got in, and why the vault is a perfect habitat for them.
As much as I like that, these people were still arrogant to their own beliefs that they did not listen or more obviously did not care about Tyrone thinking they have no flaws is not a healthy sign. And that is the reason for their deaths, they just couldn't accept people at their worst especially with Fallout's 50's theme of parnoia, mistrust, and greed.
@@jasonle9596 that's not arrogance. That's what faith requires. In Christianity, life is not what's important. Your eternal soul is. What's 100 years at most to eternity? That's why faith can be dangerous; because blind belief without insight usually leads to results like this. But if you're a Christian, dying through spreading God's will isn't supposed to be seen as a bad thing. Martyrdom is pretty important in the history of religion. Not trying to start a religious argument. Just food for thought.
@@donnywilliams9494 Agreed, it's blind belief and obsessing belief too far thinking you do no wrong leads to your downfall. It's recognizing what you are doing with good intentions is good as long as you do not boast or become overconfident.
Agreed. I’m personally so sick of all the religion bashing in modern media. I want to see more places like this, and characters like Joshua Graham. Deep and interesting takes on religious characters. Even if those characters are flawed. It’s far more interesting than the just constant parade of “God is dead”/“God is an asshole”/“FUCK YOU GOD!”/“Religious people are idiots” From people who think their smarter than they actually are.
@@awesomechainsaw Sure, but bashing Christianity isn't undeserved with its negative nonprogressive societal influence the last 100 years. It's not like at least some depictions don't hold merit.
Because he said he doesn't want to get turned around, not in the dictionary sense, but then he turns around in-game... how do you not like realize that bruv?
@@advertisingadrian yea I know, I just found a funny joke to me and said something about it so thats why and I did know why he said it so just pay more attention next time buddy.
I have a few problems with this vault. The first isn't so much a problem as an observation though... The vault residents were complete morons. I don't even mean their belief system. What I mean is that even with one person talking about the dangers, when they could have sent a scouting party to see what the world is like, they instead sent multiple "ambassadors" (who were going alone based on the word of that Mayor that met one) as far and wide as they could to get the attention of everyone they could immediately. It doesn't matter if they're selfless or selfish, pacifist or warmongers, with that kind of idiocy they couldn't survive. And for Cole and his group, my problem is they feel like bad writing. This was just one year after the bombs dropped, they lived most their lives in civilization. If after the bombs they were constantly traveling to survive and were set upon by hostile groups and liars, that would be one thing. But instead they lived as part of a community, who were trying to survive together. And they find a vault of people they know haven't been in the wasteland, a mere year after the bombs, and when the vault is being helpful they instantly open fire on unarmed residents? It just doesn't make sense to me. That, and how they decided that the GECK was mind controlling the residents without even acknowledging they were wrong in their previous ideas, and instantly open fire on a nuclear device, makes them almost as stupid as the vault group. And the dungeon seems designed to incentivize players to use the game's microtransactions, with not having any toolbenches until much later on.
I guess at least they did not actively kill the kids. By being locked down they would have been safe from violence but probably were killed by the explosion and plants. I agree though, bad writing.
You underestimate the stupidity of humanity. Just look at how it has reacted to COVID. Some places helped each other out, but other careless spread it, leave people hungry, leave them to choose between a roof over their head and their health, pretending nothing is wrong or believing any snake oil will save them because a politician will save them.
@@richardarriaga6271 For better or worse, we are now too insulated from the consequences of our bad decisions. For instance - imagine a hunter-gatherer group, or even a small farming community putting a complete idiot in charge and following his/her every command with no critical thinking. They'd die. Eat the wrong thing because the charming new leader said it was fine, even though the previous elders had made clear those items are poisonous? Dead. Plant crops at the wrong time *when you know better* because some seemingly tough and charming leader said so? Enjoy that famine! These days, we have modern medicine, stockpiles, deficits, checks and balances, and a bajillion things to blame before we make it to ourselves. There's folks who said it was Fauci's fault because he wasn't insistent enough. They said it was everyone else's fault for not *making* them do the right thing. Surely, if it were *that* serious, people would be up in arms over folks not following the rules! It HAD to be the fault of someone else! Media for not talking enough about COVID! Media for talking too much about COVID! Doctors for not telling them again for the 101st time that catching this was brutal! Anyone, anything...any excuse that doesn't make them reflect on themselves or their behavior. The saddest thing I've read in a long, long time was a nurse talking about patients of hers who were dying...and insisting that they did not have COVID. Insisting that the doctors MUST have a cure for whatever this was. They were dying - and still clinging to the delusion that it was a 'hoax'. We as a species are now so expansive that the impact of any one moron is somewhat blunted. Where the incompetence of one person out of a family group of 20 could be fatal for many of them, our fools and their potential victims are often insulated. Cooking 'rare' chicken because it seems fine for beef? An entire team of doctors will save that idiot's life, and the life of any potential victims of the aforementioned idiocy. Disregard safety information on a lawnmower and hold down the bar WHILE REACHING UNDER THE MOWER??? Someone who went to school for nearly a decade will put that idiot's fingers back on, and the idiot will actually still have feeling in most of them. On one hand, this compassion has made us a force to be reckoned with. On the other...the very folks society has shielded may very well bring down the foundations of that society. We shall see...
What could have spawned from vault 94 could have been one of the most beatifull things the wasteland could have ever seen, in the sense of both what it could have meant to unify the world under a peacefull ideaology and the wonderous biological restoration it could have brought with the use of a geck and a huge seed vault. Vault-tec shoulda just seen this as an ambitious project to actually restore the world to something even better than it was before instead of making it another flawed experiment they could again have easily guessed the outcome to...
The problem is that when you ban someone intrinsic to human existence, regardless of what it might be, you will always doom yourself to failure. This would never have worked the same way cults/religions that ban sex, alcohol, drugs, ect...have never worked. Humans have their vices for a reason, you must acknowledge and accept that in order to acknowledge and accept them. You can minimize their need for those vices after doing so but you will *NEVER* wholly get rid of them. Their ideology suffered from the exact same lack of empathy and moral intelligence that those who promote unnecessary violence suffer* as they both shared a harmful over simplicity of solutions. Humans will always have aggression and therefore violence, banning it will only make those who are willing to listen to you vulnerable to those who won't. (Edit: forgot a word 😅)
Fallout 76 is 25 years after the bombs dropped, Fallout 4 is 2 centuries. The events in West Virginia are all part of the MMO Fallout 76. That particular sweet roll is likely only 24 years old, since they were making fresh new food in this vault.
Unless you're Vault 11 and they want you to fight back. To this day, that Vault was the one that got to me while playing. The things people can and will do to each other...just wow.
Persumably the shockwave from the GECK killed Cole and the raiders in the room instantly, vaporizing them and turned them into fertilizer like it did to us in Vault 87. That would explain us not finding their bodies near the GECK
What if there was a secret side agenda to see if Tyrone would turn into a dictator at the last minute to prevent the vault from being opened ? What if they knew that he had a heart of gold and that he would eventually grow to like the people ? What if they wanted to see if he would take the reigns as they knew no one else would ? They obviously knew that he was no one like Braun that was cold and calculating and so it is interesting that he was chosen as Overseer if there was no ulterior motive.
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I think Tyrone was a student left alone inside the vault specifically to end up joining the group and becoming the voice of reason. Vault Tec knew they would probably get wiped out with their first major encounter so they would never have had time to adjust their philosophy after that encounter. The test was whether Tyrone's warnings would make them change enough to survive.
"We find ANOTHER tinkerer's workbench. Oh great, now they're dropping like candy! Could have used this guy 45 minutes ago!" The amount of sass in the delivery of this line is hilarious.
Interesting. A pacifist society that cannot comprehend violence. By contrast, a quasi-barbarian group that could not recognize the priceless treasure before them, and destroyed it.
Except... they weren't actually a Quasi-barbarian group. This is ONE YEAR after the bombs fell. These guys were pumping gas (Well, reactor coolant) and flipping burgers and driving taxis and such a year ago. And they weren't even Raiders, they were residents of the Town of Harpers Ferry, and evidently clinging to some notion of civilization and community. They were sent by the Mayor to meet with these people after being invited and check out their story, instead they storm the place and almost immediately start shooting and killing with literally zero provocation. If they had been sent to steal the food, or under some sort of cloud of suspicion by the Mayor maybe even that could be understandable, but she was hoping this was legit! I know the Fallout series drives home the whole notion of humanity falling into savagery, but these guys' drivers licenses haven't even expired at this point! There's no indication from the holotapes that they're desperate or afraid, or anything but that their goal was to always come in and raid the Vault and kill everyone inside, which makes zero sense if they were sent by the Mayor to make nice. The concept of a pacifist or a religious group shouldn't have been so alien to these people after ONE YEAR that it sets them off killing the local government after asking ONE QUESTION.
@@IsilmeTuruphant I compare this kind of people, with people who love to kill npc in diamond city and children in vault 81. In Skyrim they do the same in cities, they just kill peaceful npc. Some people have that taste. Sea Of Thieves has those too, it's funny, they come with total aggression, until you fight back, instantly their desire for blood disappears. Brilliant, no?
2 months after society falls, your standard opportunist thief will become a raider by chance to survive They cant fend for themself normally with society helping them, now no ones around to live off of. They are gonna take what they can as quick as they can
@@IsilmeTuruphant I think you give some people in the modern age too much credit. There are some in society that would act just like this if given the opportunity.
@@IsilmeTuruphant The problem was the leader of that quasi-raider group was already on his way to become a full on raider, you can tell by his demeanor that he doesn't trust anyone except his squad so he automatically assumes the people of the vault are trying to trick them, you can see the paranoia in him. plus it's kind of acknowledged by the mayor that his officers held more loyalty to him them then they did to the town itself, basically he seemed like a guy who looked at the apocalypse and decided he was going to take whatever he wanted now that there were no rules, and that was probably his thought process when he ordered the killing, kill the residents of the vault, remove whatever threat they posed, and take whatever they had with no danger.
They may have succeeded had the Mayor of that nearby town chose a better group of people to investigate. This Cole dude clearly showed up with every intention to lay waist to everyone in the vault. He didn't believe a word of what they said and just wanted to eliminate what he saw was a threat. Ignorance and fear are a really bad combination lol.
First time viewer. I'd watch these kind of videos for most games. I love mysteries being explored. I find it way more entertaining than trying to figure it out myself. Ill be a repeat viewer if there's more of these. Thank you for your work and effort.
I always loved the look and feel of The Mire and it is cool to find out there is actually a reason why it is like that beyond just ramdom effects of radiation. I am somebody who believes in the goodness in mankind but I am not so much of an idealist that I would just ignore what circumstances do to people. Those people went through the apocalypse, had to survive on their own for a year by then in a hostile environment filled with radiation, sickness and mutated creatures. Of course the pastor could not have known about all of it but opening the vault and expecting people to line up for corn on the cob is lunacy.
I'm gonna be honest. I would be the sort to want to protect this community. I don't like violence. I don't like how quick I a! To anger, but these are the pele who deserve to be protected. They are idealists. Delusional sure, but they are sticking to their ideals... Well beyond them turning against the engineer fellow who actively broke with vault tec to try talking them into waiting longer. If they had read the terminal they would have known that by integrating he had explicily broken with his old masters to save what was now his community. All to her crowing 'i'm riiiight. I'm riiiight the world is burning because I stood in the way and have in to vsmglory but I'm riiiight!' Fucking tottering nickering crows preening at their own splendor are.... The worst.
What is "good" is simply what's logical. If you work together and keep people fed, clothed and housed they will be more productive and society will be stronger, simple as that. What we deem to be "good" or "bad" are purely subjective, its like how homosexuality was viewed as evil and a sin despite there being no real proof of god being real or homosexuality having any negative effect on people. So ultimately, humanity becomes more humane not cause humans are inherently good or noble. We just get gradually pushed in the direction of what makes sense.
It's amazing that the devs created lore so content like this can exist. Plus how they it made time consuming and complicated enough to keep dedicated players interested. I'm so glad this is a thing so content like this exist for me to end the day with.
This series is great. Honestly I have zero intentions to play Fallout 76 (granted I'm not a huge Fallout fan to begin with) but these videos bring that atmosphere and lore into a medium I can sit down and enjoy. Great work man.
@@rockstarbonnie7153 a very, very stale one that's been marinating in the atmosphere of what's essentially a radioactive and toxin filled tomb for decades. Yummy! :)
"Their believe in the goodness of mankind, led to their own destruction" A Powerful Sentence, words that never been false, humans are born innocent but they are turned into monsters when faced with greed and idiocy. God bless your soul Oxhorn.
"Greed and idiocy" come from those same "born innocent" people. There was no evil instructor to instill the habits of evil into humanity. Humans are born with instincts. Instincts shaped by life and experience into habits. Habits that can be good, like welcoming neighbors and sharing resources, or bad like fearful destruction of strange things. We humans invented evil on our own.
@@arabhawk6568 Nope. Fear is our biggest enemy. Fear is the source of all lies. Fear generates the impulse to hide / smash / run. Some folk build a habit of fearing what they are ignorant of. Others build a habit of study, contemplation, and attempted understanding of those same ignorance sources.
@@davidharriss3792 people fear what they do not understand/know, ignorance can also be described as racism, xenophobia and ileteracy, Another description is quick judging.
Vault 94 might have survived if Mayor Vox had gone instead of sending Cole. It was Cole's paranoia, which might have been caused by post-war experiences with raiders and other survivors, which led him to believe that the message from the visiting ambassador was a lure for a trap. Information acquired from Vox and continuous interactions with the surface might have encouraged Vault 94 to implement some of Tyrone’s proposals for example “Security Preparedness/Self-Defence Training” and “Establish Emergency Planning Task Force”. The Feral Ghouls, the Scorched and the Super Mutants once dialogue has been proven impossible could have been used to support the argument for the implementation of Tyrone’s proposals.
I just rewatched the Old World Blues videos and hearing “seed” so many times brings back vibes of the research station personality that makes salient green in the Sink
I remember walking into this place in my power armour and suddenly got a lot of Vault 22 vibes from it and went to grab my Pyrolyzer from my camp and slowly proceed to explore and quickly learned that this is much much worse than vault 22
I'm from the bible belt in sweden.. and I can confirm that this vault is exactly how it would have worked here If my town would become a vault... scary to think about honestly!
I think...That people would be diverse in their reactions to such a dilemma in real life. Some people cling to faith strongly, others less so, and some change as the situation demands. Ultimately you'd get a mix of reactions. Some would fight, yes, but many wouldn't.
I am not a pacifist, nor am I a violent seeker. I'm not as religious as i used to be, but even back then I wasn't a pacifist. I believe in being prepared. We can try talking but I refuse to be defenseless. Violence is the last resort for me but in a situation, I've already mentally mapped out potential ways to get rid of a threat depending on environment and people around. Nothing wrong with pacifism as long as you note that not everyone is "Just" and "good". There's a saying. "Prepare for the worst and hope for the best"... That's what THEY needed to do. And learn basic self defense. Tyrone really tried with them.
@@miratamamo9331 I said I wasn't a pacifist, but it does hold some bearing considering if they had SOME self defense, the community wouldn't have died as easily. I also know pacifists that do have basic self defense because while violence is the last resort they also don't wish to die or be taken advantage of. Should I have instead told them to come talk on this?
@@nellylenaj3601 Lets remember that the fact that vault Tec didn't give atleast an armory locked away for the council to use last resort. The fact the experiment that they made had a highest chance to fail. The fact thar vault Tec literally made a food in the open.
West-Tek -> Vault 22 AND Vault 94? They did have a pseudo-internet connection/infrastructure before bombs started falling. Perhaps West-Tek in WV were coordinating with West-Tek in Nevada? That would mean Vault 94 would have had access to pre-FEV projects, which would mean that Vault 94 would be the oldest Vault ever recorded... Unless West-Tek actually commissioned Vault-Tec to save their pre-FEV projects which would have involved plants... even though Vault 22 has already taken over that missive.
Just insane that Vault Tec would put something as powerful as a GECK in a vault that they predicted would be visited by desperate armed people. GG Vault Tec.
The only problem I have with Fallout 76 is that it has no single player mode. I would like to explore the land in peace, be able to make settlements, and also have a story, like trying to find the overseer and where everyone else went after they leave the vault. Also have interesting side quests, and most importantly explore all the unique vaults!
I mean you can play it by your self there nothing forcing you to play on online with other players and with the updates and expansions there are npc and events
Just imagine what could have been if Miranda had gone herself, or at least sent someone less trigger happy and more intelligent. They could have defended the pacifistic vault-dwellers while they worked to make the surrounding area a paradise.
2 years late, but with the scorched and the idiotic childish raiders in the area, they probably would have been doomed to fail to begin with. (I only say childish because the communities were legitimately trying to survive together (for the most part once the scorched showed up) and they were so opposed just because 'I don't like being told what to do.' according to a log in Charleston capital iirc. Literally the responders were trying their best to feed and take care of the survivors of the Great war, and they just didn't gaf)). Remember who destroyed the Charleston damn and crippled the responders. Imo the raiders are probably the largest factor in devastating the scorched response and destroying Appalachia, only for the selfish fucks to come back no different and learning nothing after wastelanders came out. The writers did a great job creating such insufferable villains in the raiders. They can try to slap a "human" face to them, but any 76 resident in lore should be able to look past their "trauma" and see them for what they are, opportunistic and evil. They pillaged until their was nothing left to pillage then left. A little besides your point, but I don't know any friends that play so I've never been able to really talk about that angle of the lore. What do you think?
I haven't watched your channel in a little while, but coming back to it and seeing that you are still consistently uploading (your Fallout lore videos are my favorites on this channel!) is very comforting to me :) Cheers, Oxhorn!
Truly astonishing the way you unveiled something I would’ve gave no attention to while playing Fallout 76. Yet I gave all my attention to this story. Thank you.
I love this game's ambient soundtrack so much, man. Coming off of hundreds of hours in Fallout 4, and being 'ear-blind' to the world songs in 3/New Vegas, the music in 76 really blew me away when it launched
"This guy looks like he has literally been strangled by these vines making a great photo opportunity" ah yes, the classic pastime, taking pictures of strangled people Timestamp: 35:00
I always used mines in Fallout 4 against Mirelurks. They walk right over it, dealing max damage since it doesn’t hit their shell, and crippling their legs. Also are you looking forward to Starfield and Fallout Expeditions?
1:25 Tyrone Hayes is the name of 'bedbug' in watch dogs 1 (2014) Also since I'm here, in fallout 3, in the Citadel, you can see a map of all the vaults in WA, one of them just so happens to be 76
"I could explore, but I don't want to get turned around. Turning around we find..." -Oxhorn, 2020
Lmfao🤣🤣🤣
So happy someone put it here. Didn't need to do it myself. XD
Yo dog I heard you don't wanna get turned around so I turned around so you wouldn't get turned around
i think its more an expression for getting lost, backtracking so you wont cross your own path, going down your same path which would be considered turning around from the path you're trying to take which is to cover all possible directions which involves backtracking, not crossing paths xD
@@TheFeltmeister a brother of overkill
5:12
> Enter Vault 94 entrance
> Entrance is noticeably overgrown
Everyone who played New Vegas: *_Panicked screaming_*
Vault 22, Was a good vault til the plants said this form is limiting and then turned into humans.
Me: sees oxhorn going into vault 94
Also me: gets Ptsd flashbacks of spore creatures.
God I remember my first time playing fallout 3, I managed to stumble upon vault 108. I was exploring it and looting what I could, when I saw a guy in a vault suit coming towards me. Being new to the game and relatively naive I made the assumption that this guy was friendly. NOPE. Things only got worse from there on as I found out that not only was the vault filled with his clones, but I also found out exactly why you shouldn't rely solely on alcohol and drugs to heal you. Plus I've got horrible aim so I stick to melee weapons rather than ranged weaponry
*Panicc*
THIS!! I got MAJOR FNV vibes while exploring this place.
"Oh no! They were pacifists!"
Best use of the past tense "were" I've ever seen lol.
I mean that’s a weird term to be like “woah he said at such a best time” but I guess
@@phoenixc6812 Most Pacifists don’t believe in conflict of any kind, even self defense. So “were” is a great term in describing them because being a pacifist just generally wouldn’t work out in a post-apocalyptic wasteland lol.
Taking a life to protect your own tho?
If your a pice of shit that does nothing for anyone, i can see why you wouldnt wanna live
But if you are a blessing to everyone around you, why leave earlier then god intended? Fuck that dudes attempt on your life
@@donovanulrich348 idc which one i am, depending on the day i might just let em murder me, life be like that tho
That was hilarious to me.
“It looks like this guy was STRANGLED by the vines... makes for a great photo opportunity!” - Oxhorn
Selfie!
Lol
I have raiders to kill for duct tape, but first, lemme take a selfie!
He was taking inspiration from Logan Paul
@@sv.e.n agreed
"Above the door we see the word 'welcome' painted..." *draws pistol* That's some veteran-level Fallout experience cynicism right there..
Right 😂
Wait, you guys dont automatically pull a gun out when someone comes up to you and kindly says 'hello'?
Nobody's supposed to know this, but it's his sixth sense.
A rule of thumb in Fallout is to never let your guard down
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To me this vault sounds like one of the saddest tragedies. I felt so sad that Tyrone tried to save them for so long only to have his very fears happen. He lost his future mother-in-law, his new fiancé, his new friends, and even his own life.
Vault are always tragic. Even those with actual résidents alive. Vault Tec and the Enclave were really big sadistic assholes.
@@sterenn726 Their agenda was to figure out why the 1st Society didn’t work out, so all the experiments were conducted in order to understand the human condition better and what not to do. But that doesn’t even somewhat justify the shit they did, they clearly had gotten carried away.
@@groundbloom9143 The enclave was going to kill and enslave all humankind except for them in fallout 2.
@@sterenn726 to me, they’re not sadistic. They’re monsters, monsters that look like the rest of us.
@@groundbloom9143 Yet the data was never collected or uploaded, meaning it was merely for their own "pleasure", and not out of real scientific curiosity.
This tops vault 11 for me, I was shocked at what vault tec did there but with vault 94 I’m just angry, at vault tec for taking advantage of such kind naïve people and the mayor of harpers ferry for putting faith in blindly ignorant dults wielding guns...it’s the kind of anger where you wish we got out of the vault sooner to help them
They were dead anyways Vault tec just speed it up a little
@@davidmacko983 or slowed it down by not frying them with the nuke
Right? Even thinking about it makes my blood boil, they could've been amazing. If only it'd been a ten year waiting period instead of just one, if only the counsel had listened to Tyrone once, maybe this would've turned out so much better. Maybe there would be a city known as the Wasteland's greatest oasis.
I agree. This one hits so much harder. I feel so sad.
They could of given them vault security for protection.
Just once I want a vault tec experiment to be “two people and 50 puppies” is that too much to ask for??
that would b a prize to anyone 'surviving' any of their experiments
I mean I can see that vault going south very quickly when they also didn't stock any food BUT the puppies, y'know?
Pups would be mutant hounds so quick
Two humans, ten pups and at least 200 years' worth of supplies needed for each human and canine.
Depends on the breed of dog though... the experiment could go a number of ways.
"Even opening the doors a year after the bomb dropped seems pretty wreckless to me."
Remember: Vault 111 had only a 180 days lockdown and food supply for the staff and they waited for the clearing signal from Vault Tec....that never came.
wait first to a verified?
Vault 12: "Hold my Nuka Cola..."
@@DefendYoungstown lol
If you're desperate that's different.
I love Vault Tec's hubris to presume they would survive the apocalypse, and that any of their data would be usable whatsoever.
"A person is smart. But people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
I understand what you mean, but overall it is actually the opposite. It required people to build civilization and society.
@@blugaledoh2669 Communities are required to build anything; the same is true when rebuilding that thing.
“Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow”.
@@ductape8214 Everyone knew the world was round.
@@blugaledoh2669 they're finishing the reference
(Men in Black)
I love how he narrates the gameplay it's like watching a novel instead of reading it.
Yess I was looking for this comment lol
He be a great narrator for movies or shows
Literally this! I always play his videos while i drive
@@trashy9634 fgggferfhbbbbh
@@mpavic9455 Where are you from?
“Unusual amounts of vegetation”
Me after playing nv: oh god. not the plants!
When plants start speaking in reverse **Vault 22 flashbacks**
Thought the same thing
yep, not gonna lie i was a lil disappointed it wasnt connected.
When the bushes start moving a bit too much
Hey, Harold was not that bad of a fellow.... even if he did end up becoming an object of worship by a bunch of cultists who were almost as nuts as the Children of Atom.
10:20 "Surely they didn't blame Tyrone, its not his fault."
*Me working from 5am to 3PM with people who blame me for not being able to finish my duties around the house while they slack off*
Yeah, if you have ever worked a service sector job, you know that people blame "workers" for anything and everything. I'm an EMT and have been blamed for how high health insurance costs are because I took a coffee break (while statused available, I might add!)... Just people being people...
@@QemeH Considering your doing above and beyond your civic duty you deserve more praise friend
@@CodyTalquist possibly. Been a while since ive seen SAO and i made this account back in my freshman year of highschool
@@lancebot8224
I'm pretty certain that your picture is indeed Kirito with cat ears and whiskers. Looks like his early equipment from what I can tell.
(...I've only watched SAO once like 4 years ago btw... I'm just weirdly good at remembering random things like character outfits)
It is kirito like early on when sao starts and he kills the first boss (i only remember because of sao abriged)
ironically Vaultech expected them to change their ways but it's Tyrone who changes
To be fair... They never got a "chance" to change. The very foundation of their existence led them to having no caution, no precautions, not even something as simple as the basic defense of a locked room, to talk to people inside, so as to try to convinced them, and only then either reject their arrival, or let them in. They just left the door wide open, then sat all, seemingly in one room, for what ever came. And, what came was violent, and ignorant, and paranoid, and willing to kill everyone on sight. What "opportunity" did they have really, even with one single person trying to convince them to be more careful, to recognize that change was even needed, let alone choose it?
@@patrickelliott2169 the wording of their instructions was leading them to help the people of the wasteland. Vault Tec’s experiments were inherently flawed, not only because they ignored any ethical considerations but because they basically forced their test subjects to choose the pacifist route. Oxhorn was right, they should’ve had a locked room with guns that they could’ve voted to open. They likely wouldn’t have voted to open it, but at least it gave them the choice to. And all of their instructions were directly telling them to help the wastelanders and to open up the doors. Poorly designed experiment
@@tealablu3759 Hmm. Yeah, Vault Tech isn't exactly known for their "good" experiments, but... in this case these people, without some way to stay separate from hostiles, where doomed no matter what, because, even, as you say, they "had" such a room, they would have never opened it.
@@patrickelliott2169 agreed
I’m just aggravated because this was a poorly designed experiment that baited the residents into the expected result rather than letting the residents pick for themselves
How do you mean "change"? Dude's a decent guy whereas his Superiors were all "Fuck these people psychologically because.... science,all you need to know is it's science.."
They weren't exactly "willing to die for their beliefs", they genuinely believed they could reason with the people outside the vault. They weren't exactly martyrs, they were mistaken.
The bad thing about pacifist is that their beliefs make them extremely dangerous to innocent people around them who are less capable of defending themselves.
The great thing about pacifist is that they die pretty fast for their beliefs lol.
Not even that. In my book, they were idiots, and they died for being idiots. Trust no one. Always question everything
@@BlogingLP Exactly. Pacifism is a luxury of living in a society of plenty for everyone, in a situation like this a single year after the end of the world, the weak and harmless are gonna be nothing but fodder for the folks that are gonna survive.
@@northvanguy621 But they also had plenty. If plenty is truly what allows humans to become civilized then they had no reason to expect people to be violent when presented with a world of plenty they were allowed to freely join, take from or trade with at leisure.
It doesn't paint a good picture of humanity that, upon being presented such a world, the outsiders kill the people who aren't even keeping items from them and are working to create more.
@@prettyevil6662000in hard times the strong survive by any means, the weak and foolish will always die as their genes aren't condusive to survival. Its the basic law of all things, that which is strong survives that which is weak dies and leaves more for the rest.
I feel bad for Tyrone it wasn't his fault they took there sweet time in getting there.
Yeah if bombs drop at 9AM and you can't make it til 3PM, you get what you get.
For real.. Speed it up Its the APPOCALYPSE PPL!!!
I recently (a year ago) had an electrical fire at work and people thought it was funny that I self evacuated at the first announcement. I yellled that there was an emergency due to a fire and then speed walked out checking hallways and the stair well as I went. The hallway had visible smoke and everything stank. I was out of the building in less than a minute and my coworker had to go to the hospital for a breathing treatment. Never take your safety for granted and if there is an audible alarm take it seriously until proven otherwise. We have many alarms that I monitor at work and funny enough this one did not have an audible alarm, just a digital and then some system failures. We had a wall on fire that was connected to 860 volts. Fucking amazing.
Using "there" twice without realizing that it doesn't make any grammatical sense.. "..took there sweet time in getting there."
@@BennyGoId Figured someone would be a spelling and grammar Nazi on this post...
Beginning to think the residents of this vault turned into mirelurks
Did they learn how to defend themselves?
Yep, they morphed into high level mirelurks xD
7:46
"We arrive in a familiar vault entrance, only this one is unlike any we've seen before."
Absolutely fucking killed me
Vault 94 community could have lasted longer, after all if the Responders or smarter folk from Harpers Ferry had got there first, but clearly Cole & his men were on the verge of becoming Raiders, with the same selfish destructive attitudes of the folk at up at the Top of the World.... Is there a possible connection between Cole and David & Rosie at Top of the World -spies or agents for them???
This Cole can be found as a Feral ghoul with the rest of his team in G.E.C.K. room in Final stage of the Vault (Raid) Mission: Meltdown.
(you have to defend containment shield from Hoard of Feral ghouls.)
Which I enjoy killing them everytime.
@@ruampolphaobanchong6139
Can you link a video of it?
oxhorn is the only person who can seem equally distressed about the world ending and a kid loosing a teddy bear
Equally catastrophic events 😂
i instinctually try to save every stuffy i find..lol
@@AlastorDarkAngel and I’ll at the house
@@AlastorDarkAngel is coming home awayhome she’s going back on AA and and she said she’s
I’m
This one always made me sad… Tyrone really tried to save these people…
But the odds were already set against him from day one after the second bus was late… then it was only made worse when he realized he was the overseer and had to follow valt tecs horrible experiment… he was just a STUDENT!
He tried to fix it… he really did…
But since the Pastor was already against him from day one, it was no surprise she ignored his warnings even AFTER the truth was revealed… she was a stubborn woman, and she was just so hopeful to PROVE him wrong… oh what a cost…
The SADDEST out of ALL of it… those men were just so skeptical and sus, they INSTANTLY just went into attack mode when they were TOLD just to check it out! She would have been right had the RIGHT people came to see them…
In the end… i see both were right… yes there are good people… but as well, there is a balance, where there is good there is bad… sadly… bad won that day…
(Sarcasm) ok buddy we don’t need a whole chapter of a book alright
@@shannoncreech2418 thank you for putting “sarcasm” at the start, I wouldn’t have been able to tell otherwise
@@HeyImTiP damn they failed the sarcasm speech check
thanks tristan phillips
@@shannoncreech2418 I enjoyed it 🤷🏻♀️
This vault could have simply been a test for Tyrone Hayes. Would he reveal his true purpose, tell the pacifists the world has gone to crap and they really need to praise the Lord and pass the ammunition?
Can't afford to be a politician
I see that reference....
I love that song, and great reference!
If only the dwellers of vault 94 could’ve been more like that sky pilot (Air Corps Chaplain) aboard that bomber in that song, who picked up the .50 cal and opened fire on the enemy aircraft when he was asked to say a prayer for one of the gunners who was killed seconds prior. We all know what came next
lol nice reference
pacifists in the apocalyptic wasteland, this vault was doomed from day 1.
Pacifists in any kind of era or setting are doomed from the day 1. They are basically fat sheep just waiting to be used by others. Once you stop fighting for your own survival, you turn into a livestock at best.
@@Th0rinek Full pacifist could exist by themselves if there's no outside interaction, would also need some kind of negative feedback for aggressive behaviour or else its just an unstable equilibrium, as the first person to turn non-pacifist would screw things up.
Full pacifist could also exist with the help of peacekeepers, the kind of people that enforce peace with force. Most people in first world country partially live that way, give your money to the robber and do nothing, one day the police will catch them. When it comes to your own survival its a bit different but if there's other people around you making sure there's consequences for messing with you then you can get away with full pacifism.
Heh...peace and justice they say... without power who gonna listen to you guys and ultimately this guys will be trample by others....poor guys
@@M4niacks2 Once you start enforcing your rules with force, its no longer a pacifist community, even if the ones doing it, the said peacekeepers are not part of the community.
@@Th0rinek What if it's not their rules, what if they disagree with the peacekeeer methods and even protest against it. The same way they cannot stop the violence that would be used against them they cannot stop the violence of the peacekeeper. Does that make them less pacifist?
This has got to be one of the most frustrating vaults you've covered, specifically this could have all been avoided multiple times. The residence could have kept themselves locked up. They could have listened to Tyrone. The mayor could have gone instead of those trigger happy morons who literally shot a G.E.C.K, what baffles me the most if this "scouting party" didn't even think about reporting what they saw and just started killing. They deserved the deaths they got, but it won't make up for the devastation those fools caused.
'' man kind fears what they do not understand '' they never saw people like the ones living in the vault, humans are competitive in the best of situations and it dangerous to anyone and anything in the worse, so seeing people soo willing to share every thing they became suspicious of them and assumed trickery, its even worse if you combined that with living in the world after nukes drop for a year, the shock of the world changing and gears turning towards survival, and more when you add ignorance on top of it all, they clearly were not educated, the way they spoke the actions they toke, it shows that they were not exactly of the class of people to apply any critical thinking , its a pie of every thing that could happen, happening, enthusiastic charitable sheltered pacifists meeting paranoid post nuke war hyper survivalists in a mysterious place with bad leadership for the first and no leadership for the second, and on top of it all catalyst for all kinds of change, FFS
His narrative gameplay really opens your eyes to the way the devs setup a story in the environment. Stories that tell themselves if you pay attention.
Absolutely the best at it. I have started playing that way ever since I watched his lore videos on Fallout 3, NV, and 4. I come here looking for the video he made after the fact to see what I missed.
"He went for the pastors daughter? Ambitious."
Well, He would've been crazy to have Pastor up.
I suppose he could have gone for the pastor
Unfortunately he shouldn’t have, both her and her father(the pastor) were idiots and horrible, glad they got the fate they got. Tyrone was the only true homie, rip 🪦
I feel like Vault Tec KNEW Whoever they selected to be the secret Overseer would spill the beans. It’s kinda like “Yeah you know, but no one will believe you, or will hate you”
1:04:00
Oxhorn: I wonder what these church folks were addicted to?
Me: *not missing a beat* Jesus
Haha!!! Ok... That had me LMAO... quick thinking.
XD that actually had me rolling. Very funny!
They all needed it.
*suspiciously* then... why the addictol?
As a church folk i can confirm we are addicted to Jesus
I absolutely hated this vault, i first entered it without power armor and got absolutely recked by the mirelurk kings that are in there, it left me with broken armor, broken weapons, no stimpaks , no ammo , RIP
There was one legendary mirelurk king in residential, bugged or glitched for sure. Even with poison resistent armour it would kill me in seconds even if i spammed stimpacks because they wouldn't heal fast enough.
MEANWHILE AT THE ENTRANCE TO VAULT 76 ... I'm shooting at nobbs and dropping hundreds of stimpaks radaway and a couple thousand .38 rounds purified water food xD
@@alexnadeau7063 I wish I had that I either have 40 stimpaks, 20 stimpaks, or none most of the time it’s none 😂
@@GreyScents get the perk that gives you double diluted stims and superduper
You hate it not becuase of its design or history but insted you hated because you are a little crying baby
This is ultimately why I'm an advocate of pragmatic pacifism - that is, nonviolence unless my survival and the survival of those I care about are at risk. I won't start or seek out fights, but I sure as hell will defend myself.
So basically, warrior monks
@@ntfoperative9432 yeah, basically.
@@Shadethewolfy . I think that this Vault served to see if Tyrone would become a dictator out of necessity to save these people. That's what happened to Vault 101 with The Overseer there (Amata's dad). From what we know, he made the decisions that he made out of fear. People died due to massive paranoia over the radiation and the Rad Roaches. As far as the people there knew, Death was around the corner cause their safety wall had been knocked down with the Vault door opening. The Overseer turned into a dictator overtime to try to help the people and to keep them safe.
101 always fascinated me cause the Overseers said Hell with Reclamation, we are keeping the door closed and staying here. So they broke their oath to Vault Tec and stayed safe as a result. This could have been the plan of Vault Tec all along to see the long term experimentation of a single leader in charge of people in an enclosed environment. Perhaps this experiment with Vault 94 was similar, especially with the no weapons aspect. Perhaps Vault Tec did this so that if Tyrone were to take power, he couldn't be overpowered
My Step Brother had a motto, "You better not start a fight, but you better finish it"
@@AikaKitsune Good motto to live by
Ah vault Tec, their experiments would make the Empire say "don't you think you're going a little far?"
Blow up 5 planets with a shotgun laser...
Or one experimental boi trapped in a 1950's cartoon with Dennis the Menace as the baseline.
At least we can all agree that those five planets only lasted several seconds compared to YEARS of inhumane experiments.
If you are talking about the galactic empire? yeeeeeeea uuuuh... look up the blackwing virus. The empire did some fucked up stuff, almost as bad as vaul tec
*laughs in Imperium of Man*
@@sierrathesergal6013 *Almost as bad as Vault Tec.*
Because nobody can be as bad as Vault Tec, Vault Tec made sure of that.
It's not only that they are morally wrong and twisted, but they are *so stupid* and scientifically without any worth, even if you read past the problematic setup. Take this one for example: What do we learn from this experiment? That people who have no guns are easy targets for people with guns who are willing to use them? Wow, big news... Like he said in the video: It would've been an experiment to give them a weapons chamber *FULL* of devestating weaponry but lock it behind council approved access. THEN we could've judged if they changed their ways - but the way it unfolded, they were ants under the boots of bigger animals and never ahd a chance to be anything else. The entire vault, even if operating as intended, produced no result whatsoever...
“Adequate but uninspired work for a 100 level course?” Having a pulse and some bladder control is above adequate for 100 level courses.
Yup haha
Not for VALT-TEC. It’s supposed to be the “best of the best of the best.”
@@VAULT-TEC_INC. because Vault-Tec is well known for having the best of the best
It reminds me of my 100 level psych classes. It would be a mix of the intro level psych majors mixed with all the other majors that were there for their required semester of a social science. The requirements to move on generally consisted of spell psychology and name one psychologist. Being a Vault-Tec facility I'm guessing the best of the best was probably the worst there was and simply being told they were the best until they believed it.
@@VAULT-TEC_INC. Sir........with honors
it's confirmed, Vault-tec is basically Graystillplays playing a world simulator
Yes
Yes, perfect comparison
That comparison is 100% perfect.
“Alright, today we’re playing the only game where you get to ruin the lives of people with nuclear fallout, it’s Vault-Tec Simulator… more nuclear fallout damn it”
@@axel_JVS that is a perfect intro to a future video right there
they can thank their lucky stars they're not in a Let'sGameItOut world
X6- 88 would like you to know that Vault 94 is a perfect spot for a Mirelurk Den
Yes, because that what is in Every. God. Damn. Room.
😂🤣👍
54:40 if you look closely at the skeleton you'll noticed that there is a rag in it's mouth and a bone saw by it's right hand. This guy in particular tried to free himself by cutting his arm off but most likely fell unconscious from the pain and bleed out. There is also the other skeleton of someone getting tangled in vines while trying to fight back with a weed-eater which leads me to believe that not all of vault 94's residents were slaughtered by Cole and his men but based on the Geck holotape they didn't show any remorse for their actions upon realizing that the dwellers had no weapons.
54:38 yeah I’ve been to this vault and I noticed the Skeleton is biting down on a Dishrag and has a bonesaw in their right hand. They amputated their left arm and bled out before being able to make it to the first aid kit. An even more gruesome and tragic fate
That honestly sounds like a really good quote for the vaults “All roads lead to the Atrium” kinda like the “All roads lead to Rome” quote
"opening a vault just 1 year after the bombs dropped seems reckless to me"
Seems intentional to me
Like your pfp
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Vault 111 only waited 180 days
Then pretended they never open the door
But open it every few years for supplies. . . Hell galf of megaton wanted into the vault at one point from the legend of the open vault
It’s not *that* stupid if it’s only a single bomb. Nagasaki was pretty safe after about a year
Paranoid ignorant raiders ignored, in reality the worst type of radiation decays away within about 3-5 days after the last bomb goes off. The stuff that kills you in seconds.
After that you've got the kind that afflicts you in the game as you treck into certain areas, which can take centuries to millennia to decay away completely and depending on the amount of it in an area it can kill you either in minutes, or decades.
In theory depending on your terrain, how far away the nearest nuke fell, which way the wind usually blows, and what the weather was shortly after the bombs fell you could go outside again the same week that the bombs fell, or be trapped in your shelter for several hundred years.
1:04:52 "That a level 100 3 Star Legendary Mirelurk, of course it is"
You can hear just how fed up he is with those damn things.
Hilarious (Finding Nemo reference)
The moment I heard non-violence and resources my Stellaris logic kicked in and yep, they got murdered by pretty much all of their neighbors.
"more mirelurks" he says, his voice positively Dripping with venom and exhaustion
I was unaware one could say such as "more mirelurks" without one's voice dripping with venom and exhaustion. Lol
@@the_pseudo_nim I had to fight so many mirelurks and my brother ran into like 2
I wish somehow when we entered a vault it played a cutscene showing what it used to be like in it's thriving state so when we see it afterwards it has more effect on us.
I like how he sounds like he’s walking us thru. I just close my eyes and listen. Thanks ox
I have a feeling he knows that a chunk of his viewer base listens to his content more than they watch. Allows for the theater of the mind to paint the picture. Very cool 😎
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This is great to listen to on a commute to work
The sad thing really is, that it could have worked if the mayor hadnt sent total idiots. (Yes, the vault inhabitants were also fools but still.)
Praise the lord and pass the ammunition.
Was looking for a comment pointing this out. There were multiple points of failure on this one, it wasn't *just* the complete pacifism.
She didn't just send idiots
She sent absolute fucking buffoons
Even if Mayor had sent competent people, this approach by the Vault dwellers would not have ended in their favor at all. Raiders and Slavers would have been all over this place in due time. The only hope that these people would have had would be if they supplied food, medicine, and water to Brotherhood Of Steel for protection (like Three Dog did) and yet even if they got protection by Brotherhood Of Steel, they would run out of supplies far quicker as a result. On paper, equality sounds fantastic and yet that isn't how the world operates. Everyone isn't going to take their fair share out of it being the right thing to do. Some would rather take the entire pie rather than have one slice.
@@Deadsea_1993 "vault 94 failed" is NOT anywhere NEAR the same statement as "equality stupid". Do you REALLY think that's the message the devs were trying to send with this game series? We don't live in that world. That's the point. It's a criticism of violence, not an endorsement. Being a defeatist is being dead weight. If true equality is possible, we'll never fucking get there if everyone has your outlook. Violence is for the lazy.
So, about Antonio, I'm going to say that he knew. They chose the voice actor and dialogue intentionally. He sounded somewhat creepy and evil. They didn't mention how high up on the ladder he was in Vault-Tech, but if he already knew enough details about what kind of people they were looking for, he probably knew the experiment too. It's the ultimate revenge too: strip your target of revenge of either their life or their beliefs. As an added bonus, just maybe he could turn the daughter against her mother. That's my take on it at least. Still, you could be right and he was just being the best father and ex-husband he could be under the circumstances. Just saying the selection of voice actor made it seem super sinister and eerie. I'm certain that was both the developer's and the voice actor's intent, not random chance.
I have to agree with you. He knew, but I don't think he intended or expected her or his daughter's death. I see a man that was stripped of his family and his religion, forced to change his beliefs to survive by joining vault tec. Remember, she excommunicated him from the congregation. So he put her in a situation to force her to do the same. Otherwise, he purposely sacrificed his daughter to have his ex get hers...I don't see that.
Agree, he knew and he probably either bitter about the excommunication or he hate the whole congregation and their believes. Remember the Vault is for the whole congregation.
If he somehow managed a spot for his ex-wife and daughter only, I may argue he is just being a good father and ex-husband.
I wonder what the brotherhood ,if they were around, would do when they found vault 94 before the destruction of the geck
They would do what they always do. Take the vault and everything in it for themselves and leave the residents homeless to suck eggs with nothing. Trained, organized and well mannered raiders are still raiders. "Ad ViCtOrIuM~" derher :F >:(
@@frostwitch7234 I have to agree. Technology is bad mmmmhkay? Is such a damaging concept
@@Busstavo hey you never know they could just recruit the few that would give up their ways
Good question... I mean we know what the Enclave would do.
@@frostwitch7234 Naw fam depends on which Chapter if they still follow Lyon's ideology then the vault dwellers be aight, but if the follow Roger Maxsons descendant new way then they fooked.
Can you comment on how the emergency procedures affected the vault? In response to the nuclear incident the second protocol activates but can't reach the sealed GECK. Protocol 3 activates and begins flooding the vault giving plenty of water for future plants. This triggers protocol 1 and closes doors in a circuitous fashion, leading to people having to knock holes in the vault to help drain water. These three protocols seem to explain why the path is long, how the mirelurks got in, and why the vault is a perfect habitat for them.
Imagine if they made new fallout games based on fallout 1 and 2 But in first person, Seeing vault city in first person would be quite cool.
It’s refreshing to see a depiction in media of religion that isn’t completely puritanical or hypocritical.
As much as I like that, these people were still arrogant to their own beliefs that they did not listen or more obviously did not care about Tyrone thinking they have no flaws is not a healthy sign. And that is the reason for their deaths, they just couldn't accept people at their worst especially with Fallout's 50's theme of parnoia, mistrust, and greed.
@@jasonle9596 that's not arrogance. That's what faith requires. In Christianity, life is not what's important. Your eternal soul is. What's 100 years at most to eternity?
That's why faith can be dangerous; because blind belief without insight usually leads to results like this. But if you're a Christian, dying through spreading God's will isn't supposed to be seen as a bad thing. Martyrdom is pretty important in the history of religion.
Not trying to start a religious argument. Just food for thought.
@@donnywilliams9494 Agreed, it's blind belief and obsessing belief too far thinking you do no wrong leads to your downfall. It's recognizing what you are doing with good intentions is good as long as you do not boast or become overconfident.
Agreed. I’m personally so sick of all the religion bashing in modern media. I want to see more places like this, and characters like Joshua Graham. Deep and interesting takes on religious characters. Even if those characters are flawed.
It’s far more interesting than the just constant parade of “God is dead”/“God is an asshole”/“FUCK YOU GOD!”/“Religious people are idiots” From people who think their smarter than they actually are.
@@awesomechainsaw
Sure, but bashing Christianity isn't undeserved with its negative nonprogressive societal influence the last 100 years. It's not like at least some depictions don't hold merit.
39:37
"I don't want to get turned around..."
"So turning around"
I don't know why I found this funny😂
Heh heh 69
I did too. I’m so glad you also found it funny XD
Because he said he doesn't want to get turned around, not in the dictionary sense, but then he turns around in-game... how do you not like realize that bruv?
@@advertisingadrian yea I know, I just found a funny joke to me and said something about it so thats why and I did know why he said it so just pay more attention next time buddy.
“Let’s see what’s in this room! Oh it’s more mirelurks...”
What do you think is in the room afterwords?
Dead mirelurks that are later turned into nutrients for the plants probably
@@linkinlovprkprobably a mirelurk, I wouldn’t know tho.
I have a few problems with this vault. The first isn't so much a problem as an observation though...
The vault residents were complete morons. I don't even mean their belief system. What I mean is that even with one person talking about the dangers, when they could have sent a scouting party to see what the world is like, they instead sent multiple "ambassadors" (who were going alone based on the word of that Mayor that met one) as far and wide as they could to get the attention of everyone they could immediately. It doesn't matter if they're selfless or selfish, pacifist or warmongers, with that kind of idiocy they couldn't survive.
And for Cole and his group, my problem is they feel like bad writing. This was just one year after the bombs dropped, they lived most their lives in civilization. If after the bombs they were constantly traveling to survive and were set upon by hostile groups and liars, that would be one thing. But instead they lived as part of a community, who were trying to survive together. And they find a vault of people they know haven't been in the wasteland, a mere year after the bombs, and when the vault is being helpful they instantly open fire on unarmed residents? It just doesn't make sense to me. That, and how they decided that the GECK was mind controlling the residents without even acknowledging they were wrong in their previous ideas, and instantly open fire on a nuclear device, makes them almost as stupid as the vault group.
And the dungeon seems designed to incentivize players to use the game's microtransactions, with not having any toolbenches until much later on.
I guess at least they did not actively kill the kids. By being locked down they would have been safe from violence but probably were killed by the explosion and plants. I agree though, bad writing.
You underestimate the stupidity of humanity. Just look at how it has reacted to COVID. Some places helped each other out, but other careless spread it, leave people hungry, leave them to choose between a roof over their head and their health, pretending nothing is wrong or believing any snake oil will save them because a politician will save them.
@@richardarriaga6271 For better or worse, we are now too insulated from the consequences of our bad decisions. For instance - imagine a hunter-gatherer group, or even a small farming community putting a complete idiot in charge and following his/her every command with no critical thinking. They'd die. Eat the wrong thing because the charming new leader said it was fine, even though the previous elders had made clear those items are poisonous? Dead. Plant crops at the wrong time *when you know better* because some seemingly tough and charming leader said so? Enjoy that famine!
These days, we have modern medicine, stockpiles, deficits, checks and balances, and a bajillion things to blame before we make it to ourselves. There's folks who said it was Fauci's fault because he wasn't insistent enough. They said it was everyone else's fault for not *making* them do the right thing. Surely, if it were *that* serious, people would be up in arms over folks not following the rules! It HAD to be the fault of someone else! Media for not talking enough about COVID! Media for talking too much about COVID! Doctors for not telling them again for the 101st time that catching this was brutal!
Anyone, anything...any excuse that doesn't make them reflect on themselves or their behavior.
The saddest thing I've read in a long, long time was a nurse talking about patients of hers who were dying...and insisting that they did not have COVID. Insisting that the doctors MUST have a cure for whatever this was. They were dying - and still clinging to the delusion that it was a 'hoax'.
We as a species are now so expansive that the impact of any one moron is somewhat blunted. Where the incompetence of one person out of a family group of 20 could be fatal for many of them, our fools and their potential victims are often insulated. Cooking 'rare' chicken because it seems fine for beef? An entire team of doctors will save that idiot's life, and the life of any potential victims of the aforementioned idiocy. Disregard safety information on a lawnmower and hold down the bar WHILE REACHING UNDER THE MOWER??? Someone who went to school for nearly a decade will put that idiot's fingers back on, and the idiot will actually still have feeling in most of them.
On one hand, this compassion has made us a force to be reckoned with. On the other...the very folks society has shielded may very well bring down the foundations of that society. We shall see...
@@Hanyousan1661 You’re right!
I love how much passion was poured into this.
What could have spawned from vault 94 could have been one of the most beatifull things the wasteland could have ever seen, in the sense of both what it could have meant to unify the world under a peacefull ideaology and the wonderous biological restoration it could have brought with the use of a geck and a huge seed vault. Vault-tec shoulda just seen this as an ambitious project to actually restore the world to something even better than it was before instead of making it another flawed experiment they could again have easily guessed the outcome to...
The problem is that when you ban someone intrinsic to human existence, regardless of what it might be, you will always doom yourself to failure.
This would never have worked the same way cults/religions that ban sex, alcohol, drugs, ect...have never worked.
Humans have their vices for a reason, you must acknowledge and accept that in order to acknowledge and accept them.
You can minimize their need for those vices after doing so but you will *NEVER* wholly get rid of them.
Their ideology suffered from the exact same lack of empathy and moral intelligence that those who promote unnecessary violence suffer* as they both shared a harmful over simplicity of solutions.
Humans will always have aggression and therefore violence, banning it will only make those who are willing to listen to you vulnerable to those who won't.
(Edit: forgot a word 😅)
Nah, you know Vault-Tec. Extremely unethical experiments first, improving humanity........ N.A. (Not Applicable) evidently.
I think the most horrifying part about the whole vault is that sweet roll that you find 36 minutes in that's still edible after over 200 years
Fallout 76 is 25 years after the bombs dropped, Fallout 4 is 2 centuries. The events in West Virginia are all part of the MMO Fallout 76.
That particular sweet roll is likely only 24 years old, since they were making fresh new food in this vault.
That roll must be as hard as a rock
@@thevladman2000either that or it’s 90% preservatives
sounds like an average hostess snack to me
I love that “ Vault tech TYPICALLY encourage residents not to destroy their vaults” 😂😂😂
Unless you're Vault 11 and they want you to fight back. To this day, that Vault was the one that got to me while playing. The things people can and will do to each other...just wow.
Persumably the shockwave from the GECK killed Cole and the raiders in the room instantly, vaporizing them and turned them into fertilizer like it did to us in Vault 87. That would explain us not finding their bodies near the GECK
What if there was a secret side agenda to see if Tyrone would turn into a dictator at the last minute to prevent the vault from being opened ? What if they knew that he had a heart of gold and that he would eventually grow to like the people ? What if they wanted to see if he would take the reigns as they knew no one else would ? They obviously knew that he was no one like Braun that was cold and calculating and so it is interesting that he was chosen as Overseer if there was no ulterior motive.
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I think Tyrone was a student left alone inside the vault specifically to end up joining the group and becoming the voice of reason. Vault Tec knew they would probably get wiped out with their first major encounter so they would never have had time to adjust their philosophy after that encounter. The test was whether Tyrone's warnings would make them change enough to survive.
"We find ANOTHER tinkerer's workbench. Oh great, now they're dropping like candy! Could have used this guy 45 minutes ago!"
The amount of sass in the delivery of this line is hilarious.
Interesting. A pacifist society that cannot comprehend violence.
By contrast, a quasi-barbarian group that could not recognize the priceless treasure before them, and destroyed it.
Except... they weren't actually a Quasi-barbarian group. This is ONE YEAR after the bombs fell. These guys were pumping gas (Well, reactor coolant) and flipping burgers and driving taxis and such a year ago. And they weren't even Raiders, they were residents of the Town of Harpers Ferry, and evidently clinging to some notion of civilization and community. They were sent by the Mayor to meet with these people after being invited and check out their story, instead they storm the place and almost immediately start shooting and killing with literally zero provocation. If they had been sent to steal the food, or under some sort of cloud of suspicion by the Mayor maybe even that could be understandable, but she was hoping this was legit!
I know the Fallout series drives home the whole notion of humanity falling into savagery, but these guys' drivers licenses haven't even expired at this point! There's no indication from the holotapes that they're desperate or afraid, or anything but that their goal was to always come in and raid the Vault and kill everyone inside, which makes zero sense if they were sent by the Mayor to make nice. The concept of a pacifist or a religious group shouldn't have been so alien to these people after ONE YEAR that it sets them off killing the local government after asking ONE QUESTION.
@@IsilmeTuruphant I compare this kind of people, with people who love to kill npc in diamond city and children in vault 81. In Skyrim they do the same in cities, they just kill peaceful npc. Some people have that taste. Sea Of Thieves has those too, it's funny, they come with total aggression, until you fight back, instantly their desire for blood disappears. Brilliant, no?
2 months after society falls, your standard opportunist thief will become a raider by chance to survive
They cant fend for themself normally with society helping them, now no ones around to live off of. They are gonna take what they can as quick as they can
@@IsilmeTuruphant I think you give some people in the modern age too much credit. There are some in society that would act just like this if given the opportunity.
@@IsilmeTuruphant The problem was the leader of that quasi-raider group was already on his way to become a full on raider, you can tell by his demeanor that he doesn't trust anyone except his squad so he automatically assumes the people of the vault are trying to trick them, you can see the paranoia in him. plus it's kind of acknowledged by the mayor that his officers held more loyalty to him them then they did to the town itself, basically he seemed like a guy who looked at the apocalypse and decided he was going to take whatever he wanted now that there were no rules, and that was probably his thought process when he ordered the killing, kill the residents of the vault, remove whatever threat they posed, and take whatever they had with no danger.
Fallout 76 vaults are so massive compared to fallout 4, just... The atrium is MASSIVE, EVEN BIGGER THAN VAULT 76
Fallout 4 USA bigger game overall but I love both games
I still think new vegas has the best vaults
@@rileymccreanor6492 No kidding, Vault 22 and 34 are freaking mazes!
Fallout 3 has thee best vault & I can describe it in a single name.......gaaaaaaary.
@@xDaddyPuddingx lol
They may have succeeded had the Mayor of that nearby town chose a better group of people to investigate. This Cole dude clearly showed up with every intention to lay waist to everyone in the vault. He didn't believe a word of what they said and just wanted to eliminate what he saw was a threat. Ignorance and fear are a really bad combination lol.
This looks like the Perfect Spot for a Mirelurk Den.
I came to the comment section for this quote, and I am satisfied.
First time viewer.
I'd watch these kind of videos for most games. I love mysteries being explored. I find it way more entertaining than trying to figure it out myself. Ill be a repeat viewer if there's more of these. Thank you for your work and effort.
Ox has a great back log of cool videos covering vaults in other fallout games. He mostly streams now but he still does a lore video a week.
I can’t imagine how frustrating it is to get the lore from 76, thank you for these videos
I always loved the look and feel of The Mire and it is cool to find out there is actually a reason why it is like that beyond just ramdom effects of radiation.
I am somebody who believes in the goodness in mankind but I am not so much of an idealist that I would just ignore what circumstances do to people. Those people went through the apocalypse, had to survive on their own for a year by then in a hostile environment filled with radiation, sickness and mutated creatures. Of course the pastor could not have known about all of it but opening the vault and expecting people to line up for corn on the cob is lunacy.
I don't know, I never really liked the mire. More of a Forrest guy.
I'm gonna be honest. I would be the sort to want to protect this community. I don't like violence. I don't like how quick I a! To anger, but these are the pele who deserve to be protected. They are idealists. Delusional sure, but they are sticking to their ideals... Well beyond them turning against the engineer fellow who actively broke with vault tec to try talking them into waiting longer. If they had read the terminal they would have known that by integrating he had explicily broken with his old masters to save what was now his community. All to her crowing 'i'm riiiight. I'm riiiight the world is burning because I stood in the way and have in to vsmglory but I'm riiiight!'
Fucking tottering nickering crows preening at their own splendor are.... The worst.
What is "good" is simply what's logical. If you work together and keep people fed, clothed and housed they will be more productive and society will be stronger, simple as that. What we deem to be "good" or "bad" are purely subjective, its like how homosexuality was viewed as evil and a sin despite there being no real proof of god being real or homosexuality having any negative effect on people.
So ultimately, humanity becomes more humane not cause humans are inherently good or noble. We just get gradually pushed in the direction of what makes sense.
Vault 94, “you’ll definitely need some friends for this one”
It's amazing that the devs created lore so content like this can exist. Plus how they it made time consuming and complicated enough to keep dedicated players interested. I'm so glad this is a thing so content like this exist for me to end the day with.
All Pastor Salavar would have had to tell Cole was, “If this was a trap, you and you men would already be dead.”
As if the pastor would say that, keep dreaming.
Cole and the others would shoot instantly ,remember
"Mind Control "
She was probably caught off guard. They didn't expect retaliation like this
I found this place just never knew how to enter
Edit: I'm level 40 something so I'm happy I couldn't get in
I’m level 190 and wish I couldn’t
@@Saitaina im level 206
Biggie Chees level 380 place was a breeze. Even got some caps from the mirelurk meat (Superduper, butcher bounty)
You have to be 50+ I'm lol 137-138
@@nano60
Here we have your average bloodied user who's too coward and lazy to kill anything in more than 1 shot
This series is great. Honestly I have zero intentions to play Fallout 76 (granted I'm not a huge Fallout fan to begin with) but these videos bring that atmosphere and lore into a medium I can sit down and enjoy. Great work man.
"there's a sweet roll on one of the tables, tasty *snacc* "
I see you found a slightly radioactive sweet roll
@@rockstarbonnie7153 a very, very stale one that's been marinating in the atmosphere of what's essentially a radioactive and toxin filled tomb for decades. Yummy! :)
Security systems breached
Shutting down safety protocol...
@@rockstarbonnie7153
Yup that makes perfect Vault Tec Sense
Sigh
My favorite Oxhorn quote now
"Their believe in the goodness of mankind, led to their own destruction"
A Powerful Sentence, words that never been false, humans are born innocent but they are turned into monsters when faced with greed and idiocy.
God bless your soul Oxhorn.
Indeed sadly
"Greed and idiocy" come from those same "born innocent" people. There was no evil instructor to instill the habits of evil into humanity.
Humans are born with instincts. Instincts shaped by life and experience into habits. Habits that can be good, like welcoming neighbors and sharing resources, or bad like fearful destruction of strange things.
We humans invented evil on our own.
@@davidharriss3792 Ignorance is the biggest enemy of humanity.
@@arabhawk6568 Nope. Fear is our biggest enemy.
Fear is the source of all lies.
Fear generates the impulse to hide / smash / run.
Some folk build a habit of fearing what they are ignorant of. Others build a habit of study, contemplation, and attempted understanding of those same ignorance sources.
@@davidharriss3792 people fear what they do not understand/know,
ignorance can also be described as racism, xenophobia and ileteracy,
Another description is quick judging.
I truly love the way you deliver the info as if this was some discovery channel show about the vaults
Oh it does give off contemporary Discovery Channel documentary vibes doesn't it? Nice reference.
"I don't want to get turned around" **Immediately gets turned around**
Vault 94 might have survived if Mayor Vox had gone instead of sending Cole. It was Cole's paranoia, which might have been caused by post-war experiences with raiders and other survivors, which led him to believe that the message from the visiting ambassador was a lure for a trap. Information acquired from Vox and continuous interactions with the surface might have encouraged Vault 94 to implement some of Tyrone’s proposals for example “Security Preparedness/Self-Defence Training” and “Establish Emergency Planning Task Force”. The Feral Ghouls, the Scorched and the Super Mutants once dialogue has been proven impossible could have been used to support the argument for the implementation of Tyrone’s proposals.
I just rewatched the Old World Blues videos and hearing “seed” so many times brings back vibes of the research station personality that makes salient green in the Sink
When you miss the music by oxhorn
@ZCS what?
I miss the intros as well
@ZCS nobody is gonna waste their time making complete, grammatical sentences
When you miss the old lore videos instead of live streams
@ZCS Dude, get a life
“We find a familiar vault entrance. Only, this one looks nothing like what we’ve seen before!”
I... what?
I remember walking into this place in my power armour and suddenly got a lot of Vault 22 vibes from it and went to grab my Pyrolyzer from my camp and slowly proceed to explore and quickly learned that this is much much worse than vault 22
I'm from the bible belt in sweden.. and I can confirm that this vault is exactly how it would have worked here If my town would become a vault... scary to think about honestly!
You have guns right....right ?
@@Slimpicken nope!
What Swedish Bible belt? Never heard of any such thing. We're barely even religious as a society, how can we have a Bible BELT?
@@helmaschine1885 go to the jönköping areas of sweden and just trust me..
Oh you silly nordic pacifists, better buck up y'all, pacifism never won a war for anyone
I think...That people would be diverse in their reactions to such a dilemma in real life. Some people cling to faith strongly, others less so, and some change as the situation demands. Ultimately you'd get a mix of reactions. Some would fight, yes, but many wouldn't.
there nothing in the bible that says youy cant defend yourself help people yers if u can but have a gun them till they have proven themselves
I am not a pacifist, nor am I a violent seeker. I'm not as religious as i used to be, but even back then I wasn't a pacifist. I believe in being prepared. We can try talking but I refuse to be defenseless. Violence is the last resort for me but in a situation, I've already mentally mapped out potential ways to get rid of a threat depending on environment and people around. Nothing wrong with pacifism as long as you note that not everyone is "Just" and "good". There's a saying. "Prepare for the worst and hope for the best"... That's what THEY needed to do. And learn basic self defense. Tyrone really tried with them.
@@nellylenaj3601 You're not a pacifist, so your opinions on the matter have no bearing.
@@miratamamo9331 I said I wasn't a pacifist, but it does hold some bearing considering if they had SOME self defense, the community wouldn't have died as easily. I also know pacifists that do have basic self defense because while violence is the last resort they also don't wish to die or be taken advantage of. Should I have instead told them to come talk on this?
@@nellylenaj3601 Lets remember that the fact that vault Tec didn't give atleast an armory locked away for the council to use last resort. The fact the experiment that they made had a highest chance to fail. The fact thar vault Tec literally made a food in the open.
39:40 "There's a lot around here and I don't want to get turned around."
"So turning around"
😂
is it just me or does Vault 94 give off Vault 22 vibes?
West-Tek -> Vault 22 AND Vault 94? They did have a pseudo-internet connection/infrastructure before bombs started falling.
Perhaps West-Tek in WV were coordinating with West-Tek in Nevada?
That would mean Vault 94 would have had access to pre-FEV projects, which would mean that Vault 94 would be the oldest Vault ever recorded... Unless West-Tek actually commissioned Vault-Tec to save their pre-FEV projects which would have involved plants... even though Vault 22 has already taken over that missive.
Sort of, except this one didn’t have any giant grasshoppers
I've played Vegas and trust me it's like vault 94 IS vault 22 JUST DESIGN CHANGED SAME PROJECT
@@pixelgamer1768 we’ve all played nv bro
@@datoome_ it's such a good game just u can't play after the Hoover dam battle
Just insane that Vault Tec would put something as powerful as a GECK in a vault that they predicted would be visited by desperate armed people. GG Vault Tec.
The only problem I have with Fallout 76 is that it has no single player mode. I would like to explore the land in peace, be able to make settlements, and also have a story, like trying to find the overseer and where everyone else went after they leave the vault. Also have interesting side quests, and most importantly explore all the unique vaults!
The lack of NPC means that the world feels empty. Even a fee players doesn't help much for that.
I mean you can play it by your self there nothing forcing you to play on online with other players and with the updates and expansions there are npc and events
Just imagine what could have been if Miranda had gone herself, or at least sent someone less trigger happy and more intelligent. They could have defended the pacifistic vault-dwellers while they worked to make the surrounding area a paradise.
2 years late, but with the scorched and the idiotic childish raiders in the area, they probably would have been doomed to fail to begin with. (I only say childish because the communities were legitimately trying to survive together (for the most part once the scorched showed up) and they were so opposed just because 'I don't like being told what to do.' according to a log in Charleston capital iirc. Literally the responders were trying their best to feed and take care of the survivors of the Great war, and they just didn't gaf)).
Remember who destroyed the Charleston damn and crippled the responders. Imo the raiders are probably the largest factor in devastating the scorched response and destroying Appalachia, only for the selfish fucks to come back no different and learning nothing after wastelanders came out. The writers did a great job creating such insufferable villains in the raiders. They can try to slap a "human" face to them, but any 76 resident in lore should be able to look past their "trauma" and see them for what they are, opportunistic and evil. They pillaged until their was nothing left to pillage then left.
A little besides your point, but I don't know any friends that play so I've never been able to really talk about that angle of the lore. What do you think?
I haven't watched your channel in a little while, but coming back to it and seeing that you are still consistently uploading (your Fallout lore videos are my favorites on this channel!) is very comforting to me :) Cheers, Oxhorn!
The amount of work that goes into those vault stories is amazing
Truly astonishing the way you unveiled something I would’ve gave no attention to while playing Fallout 76. Yet I gave all my attention to this story. Thank you.
the Paul brothers when they see a man hanged by plants:
“What a great photo opportunity! “
I love this game's ambient soundtrack so much, man. Coming off of hundreds of hours in Fallout 4, and being 'ear-blind' to the world songs in 3/New Vegas, the music in 76 really blew me away when it launched
"It looks like to get to the GECK, we need to go through the door to the GECK wing."
Hmm....the floor here is made of floor
"This guy looks like he has literally been strangled by these vines making a great photo opportunity"
ah yes, the classic pastime, taking pictures of strangled people
Timestamp: 35:00
Logan Paul be like:
I always used mines in Fallout 4 against Mirelurks. They walk right over it, dealing max damage since it doesn’t hit their shell, and crippling their legs. Also are you looking forward to Starfield and Fallout Expeditions?
39:35 “There is a lot to explore here but I don’t want to get turned around... So, turning around-“
Alfjakf lol
Your merch should just be a parody of the Dinkleburg meme. Your face with the subtitle of "Mirelurks"
1:25
Tyrone Hayes is the name of 'bedbug' in watch dogs 1 (2014)
Also since I'm here, in fallout 3, in the Citadel, you can see a map of all the vaults in WA, one of them just so happens to be 76
I feel the the developer of this vault was all:
How many mirelurks would you like here?
D;yes and make them nearly impossible to kill too...