As a German saying goes: "Better an ending full of horror than horror without end." Yes, the dwellers of Vault 112 die if the failsafe is activated, but they will forever be free from the sadistic torment of Stanislaus Braun. I feel that it's the right choice.
Braun has his fun for two hundred years. Now, he faces a reality of being alone while his charges are now free. He will never be free though. Imagine that: you can’t even die to become free. Braun deserved everything he got.
Braun's comment: "anything else you have muddled with will stay as it is" is actually an Easter egg, he only says that if your game is modded or if you've used console commands in the simulation.
When you ask Braun about leaving the simulation for the real world, he says his body would crumble to dust if he so much as tried to stand. Since the Vault 112 dwellers were in there for just as long, presumably the same outcome would have occurred if the player released them. They were already dead, then. The choice was extending their torment, or putting as quick an end to it as possible.
Probably. Kind of like the Nightmare of Mensis in Bloodborne. If you haven't played, you basically walk up to a bunch of mummified corpses in a place called the School of Mensis and touch one to be transported into a dark, nightmarish world called the Nightmare of Mensis. Only to meet a guy called Micolash, whose title is "Host of the Nightmare." He raves on and on about dreams and knowledge, but once you kicked his ass, he'll start screaming that he's waking up and he'll "forget everything." Once he dies, you can collect the weird cage he wore on his head, realise that the mummy you touched wore a very similar cage on its head and read the description which tells you the cage is meant to trap a person's consciousness in their body and turn it inward, towards godlike beings. So yeah, you've been running around inside the mummy-guy's head and waking him up by killing him in his dream means he pretty much insta-dies once waking up in his mummified corpse.
It's likely that it was more of an estimation. So long as the body's needs were perfectly tended to, our bodies can last _a lot_ longer than one would think. And since he created the G.E.C.K., it's entirely possible he had managed to create a life-extending technology so that all of the inhabitants are functionally only a few years older. However, depending on their ages going INTO the simulation, it's possible Braun is literally too old, even by any life extension technology he might've devised, to be able to exit the simulation safely, unlike the others, who may have been either younger and/or in better health.
I doubt that they would die or have issues. That means Braun could be put in the simulation but without any power and being punished for his crimes properly (or you could torture him in the real world or execute him in a horrible way for his crimes). That is assuming you can find a way besides the "Chinese Invasion" failsafe to end the simulation.
@@andyfriederichsen I don’t think their ages when they entered the simulation is the problem. It’s the fact that their bodies have been stationary for hundreds of years. Even in the real world, coma patients need constant exercising, rolling, etc, to avoid muscular atrophy, bed sores, and the like. These people have not moved for so long, their muscles would be essentially gone aside from perhaps heart, lungs, brain. Even there, I’m not sure their hearts could take the sudden demand from them moving for the first time in hundreds of years.
If the overseer had been a benevolent leader focused on improving their lives, I would have considered it a dilemma. Enlightened slavery vs desperate freedom. As it stands, it's not even a question for me: death is better than living like that.
The ethics on killing them: While doctors who practice on terminally ill humans are split on the notion, my feelings lie with those who work on animals. Ask any vet who sees a dog perpetually suffering and they'll say the exact same thing: "Well, I understand how hard this may be for you, and in truth, we can prolong its life at great cost to you, but even then, those remaining days will be that of suffering for your pet. At this point, it is my recommendation that I put it to sleep. Its suffering will be over, and the shot itself is completely painless, as is the resulting death." These poor test subjects have been brutalized for two centuries already and, should you leave them in, completing Braun's tasks, their torment would continue indefinitely. Seriously, with nuclear generators powering that vault, the torment would continue for centuries...possibly even millennia. Leaving them alive would literally be consigning them to hell itself, with Braun as their devil. No, I completely agree with Bethesda's awarding positive karma for this choice. As hard of a choice this may be, it's quite literally the least of evils.
Isn‘t it lovely how modern societies have no problem with Euthanasia for animals? A child with late-stage, terminal cancer which has built up resistance to all painkillers? No, no, no, killing them would eViL… You better suck it up, Timmy, LIFE IS SUFFERING.
But how did these people survive for 200+ years? They are not is suspended animation since they have normal pulses and blood pressure readings. There does not seem to be any nutrition supplied either. In vault 111 we were frozen. Here they are just sitting there.
Loved this quest much, very philosophical. Escaping the horror of wasteland by dreaming forever is a thing, but being used as a puppet by a psychopath during this dream is another. Damn, after 200 years of virtual torture, i think these poor people deserve eternal rest
My character, Elsa Darrow, did blow up Megaton and sort of enjoyed "Betty's" tasks. Although I never made her hostile towards her dad. He dies ashamed of her. She has Very Evil karma at this point which results in PTSD by the end. I have to stay pro-Brotherhood, though. I'm playing a cross-over w/ New Vegas, so the Broken Steel DLC carries it forward. Evil karma sucks!
@@GothLady1987 what sucks even more is a fallout new vegas good karma female legion run nearly impossible to do and infuriating and confusing not only to every npc in the game the epilouge itself but you the player as well
@@wilmagregg3131 Exactly. You're branded a terrorist if you work w/ the Legion. Hell, they don't trust you if you work w/ Yes-Man, taking your own path (although you don't get the terrorist warning w/ the latter, just a warning).
I would have laughed so hard if the reason they didn’t attack you Was because you were now wearing the communist hat. Triply so if Braun and dog James had to wear them too.
namaikikitsune i've bought the game 3 times on different platforms and i also tinkered with the programming but i just settled with playing on my old xbox
Has anyone else recognized, that Betty's girl voice actress only got lines that don't say anything harmful? That's some well thought out child protection in the production :) Don't want to know how she felt, when she found out later in her life
She got to be a voice actress in the Fallout series; she can't have been anything but happy. Maybe a bit surprised to find that "Betty" is a disguise for a mad scientist, but still happy to have been a part of it all.
@@Speedpunk650 explain how he is corrupt, hes not in a position of power where he can accept cash for smth illegal afaik. And also, even if he reads directly from the wiki, theres more to it than that. The way he says things. The personality. *The video*. Thats all stuff the wiki itself cant give me.
Yes, but even just knowing that "Betty" isn't who "she" seems is enough to give me the creeps. Especially knowing that Betty is a man in a pod that has had control in his little "world" for 200 years is beyond scary.
I think it would be funny if one of the people in the game was self aware so when you walk into their house they just go “who the hell are you and why are you in my house get out (pulls out shotgun)”
I was confused when I saw the robobrains but then I got to the room with the pods and figured “oh ok the vault dwellers are controlling these robobrains and they want me to be a robobrain too” And then I realised they’re the vault tech staff when I entered tranquility lane
@@chambeet I actually did. I was just exploring my surroundings. Hadn't even began to progress though the story. Found the objects, heard the sounds, I thought "hey there's something to this ....." Then poof. I stupidly activated the failsafe. I totally ruined my expiriance in tranquility lane by accident. It was over before it even began. Smh
tranquility lane reminds me of the short story "I have no mouth and I must scream" where after almost all life on earth is wiped out there are only a handful of humans left and they are made unkillable by an AI called AM who takes out its hatred of humanity on these people for all eternity until one of them finds a way to kill all the other humans ending their torment but in doing this he is now the only one left alive on a desolate planet with an AI who turns him into a strange blob monster to continue his torture for all eternity with the title of the book being the final thought going through the mind of the protagonist obviously its not recreated exactly in fallout 3 but the similarities are undeniable
Yeah, it’s a game called the same as the book. Told my dad there was a game based on the book and he seemed pretty surprised and happy about it, like he was happy someone else knew about it and recognized it. It is nice when possibly more obscure books get supplemental media like that. Means someone else likes them too.
I seem to recall mindlessly blundering my way through tranquility Lane without interacting with Betty much at all. I'm pretty sure I just looked in every house until I accidentally brute forced my way through the Fail-Safe
I love the part that you actually spent minutes teaching us about blood pressure. I never bothered learning it, and I was about to google it out of curiosity, but you went ahead and explained anyways.
@@papa-maple41 Homer was left for dead because no one lets him in anywhere. The children were left outside as well, because (I can only assume) this was a vault with only adults, and they were made children in Tranquility Lane. Marge was put into a state of depression, forgetting all her worries being put into the simulation. She'd forget everything being put in the Tranquility Lounger. Her husband and 3 kids, being forgotten, as well as everyone she knew and cared about. Just adding some crossover fan lore to the game. :)
Odd...the virtual neighborhood looks damn near identical to the "Abandoned" neighborhood with the 2 Yao Guai and ghouls that you come across in FO4. The one where all of your companions are either creeped out by it, or curious as to where everyone's gone.
The part where you have to make Timmy cry LEGIT made ME cry. I have a little boy and he's the same age as Timmy is in here. And it genuinely made me feel bad when I had to do this. Made me rethink life and the choices I've made in it.
This really reminds me of a twilight zone episode called “its a good life” it’s about a 5 year old who has the power to do whatever he wants and he kills people sends them all to “the cornfield” and it’s just a really creepy episode
Tranquility Lane was my very first experience with Fallout. I was fifteen, and totally blown away watching my cousin play. Probably one of my favorite parts of Fallout as a series.
I heard what you said about Timmy being an adult when you see him in his lounger but this simulation seems to be able to change peoples personality as evidenced by how everyone except old lady Dithers doesn’t remember life before the bombs and I mean the lone wanderer is a kid so why not Timmy.
Good god i tired to hit him with the rolling pin when she told to start killing the residents. (Gave me weird mass effect star child vibes with the you have no choice im in control feelings.) 😑
Eh, its a 50s mind set, I don't begrudge them (the characters) being a bit close monde. Would probably be immersion breaking to have them tout more progressive attitudes.
@@SmolPotatowo Oh yeah, it sucks for sure, but it serves as strong world building so I give it a pass in that context. If this had happened in a game set in the modern day boy would I be pissed though.
Glitch_FACE So grown man pretending to be little girl would be complitely okay for you in this day and age? Not at all creepy? It's dangerous to let modern preferences to dictate what is and what is not morally acceptable. Because by that kind of thinking future would eventually (be it better or worse) prove us all wrong.
i remember one of my early play through back in the day fallout 3 was relatively new. i randomly decided to visit as many locations before going on with the main story. i randomly found this abandoned shack/garage out west. then i came across this vault and jumped alot of the main story lol
Christopher Louis you better keep your fingers from it unless you want to loose out on almost perfect except if you need a specific skill like understanding
Happened to me as well, except I skipped ahead to Rivet City. Never did that again, though. I can't explore the Wastes without the chipper tunes of Galaxy News Radio.
When I got to this part of the game and saw the dog in the simulation I legit thought they’d somehow trapped dogmeat in the simulation with me. Actually come to think of it I haven’t seen dogmeat since I visited Vault 112, I’ve heard the wait 24 hours outside vault 101’s door but I’m on the homefront quest, he better be there when I’m done.
@@oxhorn i think you also missed out on what would happen if you attack Betty/Braun. Of course its obvious what will happen, you get killed by Braun, but I was hopjng that it would turn up in the video like something in Mothership Zeta when you entered the vacuum of space without a Spacesuit, just because you could for the video.
I thought Betty/Braun telling you to kill everyone on Tranquility Lane was a perfect opportunity to attack her. "You told me to kill EVERYONE, you know. . ."
@@theevokeruser2356 I remember that back in the day, my brother had a modded version of Fallout 3 for the Xbox 360 (neither of us played on PC back then), and you could spawn in a bunch of different characters via the pip-boy, Betty being one of them. I remember spawning her once in Megaton and attacking her. The creepy thing was that she'd immediately say in Braun's voice "You shouldn't have done that" and the game would freeze.
Brandon ,I have been watching your vids for years. You end most livestreams requesting that we "Be kind to everyone." Your lore vids have shown that to be a truth you live by. What a wonderful thing to announce and ask us to remember. Just an amazing thing to to remind us to do. We are your fans possibly (on my end) to hear just that; a man loving us everyday for that reason at least. Your wonderful story telling is the rest, the content does not matter. You give us hope. Keep doing what you do, this world needs the hope you help us find. GOOD MAN.
It is fascinating to see how Bethesda leaves the player with difficult choices to make. Even in Skyrim there are choices you can't truly make immediate choices.
You're very bold to say anythig postitve about Bethesda on the internet. lol. But I completely agree, the choice system in this was pretty good, and some missions have really stuck with me over other years. Tennpenny Tower really comes to mind as far as Fallout 3 goes.
@@oxideactual1018 I don't know. People HATE!!!!! Fallout 3 and Skyrim, which are apparently the worst games ever made with NO redeeming factors. And they're both so bad 100% because of Bethesda! Fallout New Vegas is the greatest game ever made and ANY flaws it has is because of Bethesda. They've never made a single good game EVER never! Lol.
to be honest, "Betty" said they are subconsciously aware so I'm sure that they subconsciously remember everything that happened to them in the simulation and are in pain. they might not be aware of it but they must just want it all to end and be free. on a more spiritual thought, One could alter the mind and give false memories, but the soul would still remember no matter what, "Betty" does not have that kind of power.
@@jasontoddman7265 when I said "the entire budget" I didn't mean they only hired those three actors, I meant they gave those three actors almost all the money and didn't have much left to make sure any of the other actors were good
There should be an option to leave, disable Braun's super user status (and apply it to the other residents) so when the Chinese Invasion scenario is activated they only kill Braun
You can see the love put into making this beautiful baby shine through on missions like this. I miss fallout being completed, detailed, and of course badass rollercoaster ride.
It makes me dumbfounded I see a TH-cam that can do so much content on a pretty old game, upload daily, and have a family life.Keep up the great work Ox.
"There are other ways to make Timmy cry... like murder his parents" 😂 This has to be one of the funniest oxhorn play bys. The narration is just so chipper
Regardless of Dr. Braun's power in the simulation, a single scavenger with a crowbar in his vault would destroy everything and he wouldn't be able to stop it.
This is why the first time I beat the game I used a walkthrough to help me skip right to the failsafe. I'm such a goody two shoes I couldn't bring myself to do that even in a video game.
Dude, I just started watching your videos a few days ago and I’m hooked. MAGNIFICENT content, keep it up. You are single handedly keeping the fallout series alive!
oh man its been a hot minute since ive done tranquility lane, when i was a kid i could do the evil route (begrudgingly) but with no problem. now several years later i dont think ill ever be able to do it because i cant handle listening to timmy neusbaum cry. im such a wuss lmao.
It appears you have this disease that makes you a wuss, they're called "morals" they allow you to not be an stoic asshole and they are very much necessary for human interaction. Unless your playing *farcry* 3 in that case, throw most of your morals away since not a lot of people use them
One thing I'm curious to see about (and it'd seem right up Braun's alley to like this kind of scenario) is whether you can mix methods for maximum mayhem regarding the Rockwell's marriage. Basically, frame Janet with the bloodied rolling pin and, before Roger gets to her, convince Janet that he was cheating on her. Now they're both angry as all hell, and Betty/Braun would get a massive amount of amusement out of this explosive end to their marriage.
Well I doubt this is really useful information or whatever, but I thought I would share. Back in the day, talking around after ww2. It was really common for streets of residental's for children to go around and play with other children and since neighborhoods were very close knit with one another, people knew each other. Invited families over for dinners, parties. All of that. And children were allowed a great deal of freedom, being able to run out of the house and play and visit people. My grandmother and my grand uncle (Grandmother's brother) They would go to neighbor's houses and spend time with them, listen to their stories. Watch TV's at their house and it became the neighborhood's children hangout. All children from the neighborhood would go home from school during the fall and winter, go to said house and would enjoy candy, hot cocoa and watch their tv's. Since at the time most of their families were not rich enough to afford a TV. The people who had the house were a Priest and his wife, they never could have children (This is what my grandmother says, but who knows.) And they were supposedly very kind people, who loved children and took a real shinning to my grand mother and her brother. Children would ride bikes, run and play in the backyards and go to the house to relax and watch all manner of shows. (My grandmother said she would watch Mickey Mouse club house, the old old TV series. If you have not seen it, it's actually kind of funny. For me anyways-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It could just be that neighborhood liked Timmy, he being the only other child (Aside from that freak and the vault dweller) It wouldn't surprise me if people took the kid into their homes and enjoyed his company, as well as probably being close family friends. Or maybe Bethesda messed up on this, but I doubt it.
Well I doubt this is really useful information or whatever, but I thought I would share. Back in the day, talking around after ww2. It was really common for streets of residental's for children to go around and play with other children and since neighborhoods were very close knit with one another, people knew each other. Invited families over for dinners, parties. All of that. And children were allowed a great deal of freedom, being able to run out of the house and play and visit people. My grandmother and my grand uncle (Grandmother's brother) They would go to neighbor's houses and spend time with them, listen to their stories. Watch TV's at their house and it became the neighborhood's children hangout. All children from the neighborhood would go home from school during the fall and winter, go to said house and would enjoy candy, hot cocoa and watch their tv's. Since at the time most of their families were not rich enough to afford a TV. The people who had the house were a Priest and his wife, they never could have children (This is what my grandmother says, but who knows.) And they were supposedly very kind people, who loved children and took a real shinning to my grand mother and her brother. Children would ride bikes, run and play in the backyards and go to the house to relax and watch all manner of shows. (My grandmother said she would watch Mickey Mouse club house, the old old TV series. If you have not seen it, it's actually kind of funny. For me anyways-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It could just be that neighborhood liked Timmy, he being the only other child (Aside from that freak and the vault dweller) It wouldn't surprise me if people took the kid into their homes and enjoyed his company, as well as probably being close family friends. Or maybe Bethesda messed up on this, but I doubt it.
I love at like 10:00 or so, I’m learning more from a guy who plays fallout and narrates videos (and does a great job btw) than my old high school anatomy teacher
Thinking about this decision, whether you kill off the residents or leave them there, is difficult but I believe I would choose to pull the kill switch. Sure, these people believe they live in a seemingly perfect world, with no cares or worries, but that belief doesn't negate the fact that they have suffered being toyed with by a lunatic for 200 years. Sure, they might not remember it, but it still happened to outside observers. Since this is the Matrix in the Fallout Universe, I think that ending their eternal suffering would be better than leaving them in the simulation, ignorant of the truth of their existence and what's happening to them. However, if there had been a way to release them from Tranquility Lane without letting out Braun (because he totally deserves to rot in there alone), then I don't think the residents would be more receptive of the truth of the world. We would have essentially taken them from a perfect world into a post-apocalyptic wasteland filled with mutated monsters, harsh standards of living, and the threat of death every day. It would seem like being pulled from paradise into a living hell. Even if we saved them and told them the truth, I sincerely believe they would have wanted to go back. A perfect life, without remembering the horror that Braun made them experience whenever he hit the reset button. They would have wanted to go back, and would have damned us for taking them away. So, I think the kill switch was the only way. Yes, the Chinese Invasion was cruel, but they would have been freed regardless. No more simulations, no more accidents, no more being stuck on repeat with this creepy doctor hiding under the guise of a little girl constantly dreaming up ways to make them suffer for his amusement. He would be punished, forced to remain in that little world he created all alone to suffer like they did. They would never know the horrors of the world after the bombs, never know about the super mutants, raiders, radscorpions or hounds, never know what living with radiation and starvation felt like. It seems so harsh to kill them all, but when compared to what they've gone through and what they would be forced to endure if released into the wasteland, it was actually a kindness.
I agree; as much as I hate the way they die, it's a mercy. Even if they don't remember what Braun did to them, they still lived it - and he still derived pleasure from it. People like that, like him, deserve to be isolated for eternity with no way out. They deserve to feel the same torment that they put others through.
@@wilddragonflyinggames9029 I just kept thinking of how Braun manipulated them so horribly. He would kill them, make them turn on each other, wreck their personal relationships, pick at their insecurities and emotions, and then just reset everything just to do it again. To be left completely unaware of all of this, turned into a doll going through the same old routine over and over, is just profoundly disturbing. And if the option were available, to force them out into the world that is just as harsh and not nearly so forgiving would also be cruel. Let them rest, finally.
K Cook The same can be said about real world. Sure our world is way older than 200 years (and assuming god is a real) but who are you to decide what is merciful and what isn't. If I would be in simulated fantasy world I don't want someone else to plug me off. The only one who can plug me off is myself.
Normaali Ihminen there actually is a person you interact with wich tells you if you should kill them or not. It’s the granny and once her pot started to malfunction she was free from Braun’s influence and therefore experienced all the resets for years. Imagine other pods malfunction and more people driving insane, is it still easy to judge to end their live or not?
Yeah I was thinking that. Like maybe you can cause his pod to fail for him in the real world to die and not be stuck alone in the simulation for all eternity. I wonder how the developers would treat karma in that case, would you gain good karma or bad karma. In theory you should gain good karma since you take pity on him but maybe they throw a curve ball and feel he deserves being stuck in there and they give you bad karma XD
"There is always a choice, sometimes it's just easier to make." That didn't just make me feel bad for every bad karma decision I've ever made. -a habitual good karma player because I feel bad for hurting the virtual people's feelings.
After making Timmy cry, I reloaded the save and swore revenge, never talked to "betty" explored the houses and did the China people thing, but 3 people were inside one building and 2 in another building and survived
It seems fun to be in something like the Old World but I would want it to be the entire country or something, that one neighborhood would drive me insane
Can I just say Im very grateful that you went through every dialog option/action path. A lot of playthroughs Ive seen just pick one path and Ive always been curious about what the other options might have lead to. So thank you for this treat to listen to while I work!
"Before we make this boy cry, let's explore his family home" Oxhorn-2019
LOL
@Richard Wilson all of them
Guys these replies are going south. Just stop while you're ahead.
Sounds like something a degenerate who belongs on a cross would say.
last time my dad and I played that quest we hit one of the kid's mom with a rolling pin and got away with it😂
Incidentally, if you lose your cool at any time and punch Betty (as I did in my first playthrough), she will one shot you with a bolt of lightning...
Lol, I accidentally did that too.
Didn’t everyone punch 🤜 her
No
I had forgotten how you got him to kill you, I thought it was some dialogue option insulting him or something. Was wondering why Ox didn't cover it 😅
I was like oh you have no power over me so I hit her 😭
As a German saying goes: "Better an ending full of horror than horror without end." Yes, the dwellers of Vault 112 die if the failsafe is activated, but they will forever be free from the sadistic torment of Stanislaus Braun. I feel that it's the right choice.
I agree the the lesser evil of the only two options available to us.
The GentlemanPirate did u pick a german saying on purpose because braun was from germany?
@@tlesko3921 Actually, it is because I am German, and as such, it quickly came to mind.
I read that in Brauns voice... and I'm going to start doing that for fun now.
Braun has his fun for two hundred years. Now, he faces a reality of being alone while his charges are now free. He will never be free though. Imagine that: you can’t even die to become free. Braun deserved everything he got.
Braun's comment: "anything else you have muddled with will stay as it is" is actually an Easter egg, he only says that if your game is modded or if you've used console commands in the simulation.
so thats why i read a line like that
When you ask Braun about leaving the simulation for the real world, he says his body would crumble to dust if he so much as tried to stand. Since the Vault 112 dwellers were in there for just as long, presumably the same outcome would have occurred if the player released them. They were already dead, then. The choice was extending their torment, or putting as quick an end to it as possible.
Probably. Kind of like the Nightmare of Mensis in Bloodborne. If you haven't played, you basically walk up to a bunch of mummified corpses in a place called the School of Mensis and touch one to be transported into a dark, nightmarish world called the Nightmare of Mensis. Only to meet a guy called Micolash, whose title is "Host of the Nightmare." He raves on and on about dreams and knowledge, but once you kicked his ass, he'll start screaming that he's waking up and he'll "forget everything." Once he dies, you can collect the weird cage he wore on his head, realise that the mummy you touched wore a very similar cage on its head and read the description which tells you the cage is meant to trap a person's consciousness in their body and turn it inward, towards godlike beings. So yeah, you've been running around inside the mummy-guy's head and waking him up by killing him in his dream means he pretty much insta-dies once waking up in his mummified corpse.
It's likely that it was more of an estimation. So long as the body's needs were perfectly tended to, our bodies can last _a lot_ longer than one would think. And since he created the G.E.C.K., it's entirely possible he had managed to create a life-extending technology so that all of the inhabitants are functionally only a few years older. However, depending on their ages going INTO the simulation, it's possible Braun is literally too old, even by any life extension technology he might've devised, to be able to exit the simulation safely, unlike the others, who may have been either younger and/or in better health.
So basically they're a bunch of Mr. Houses.
I doubt that they would die or have issues. That means Braun could be put in the simulation but without any power and being punished for his crimes properly (or you could torture him in the real world or execute him in a horrible way for his crimes). That is assuming you can find a way besides the "Chinese Invasion" failsafe to end the simulation.
@@andyfriederichsen I don’t think their ages when they entered the simulation is the problem. It’s the fact that their bodies have been stationary for hundreds of years. Even in the real world, coma patients need constant exercising, rolling, etc, to avoid muscular atrophy, bed sores, and the like. These people have not moved for so long, their muscles would be essentially gone aside from perhaps heart, lungs, brain. Even there, I’m not sure their hearts could take the sudden demand from them moving for the first time in hundreds of years.
Oxhorn: "These poor people are living in identical houses!"
Me living suburban Florida: Hey!
lolllll
Are you sure it’s suburban Florida?
Yea some streets are like that
@Fatih R.A.K. If he did he needs a rescue helicopter to help him
Living in the sovjetunion
"Betty wants me to break up your marriage."
"Don't be ridiculous."
"Your husband was kissing another girl."
"Looks like time for a divorce!"
Haha
that marriage must have been awful.
Divorce HAHAHAHAHA
Divorce lawyers after quarantine
Don't you know that you should trust random people more then the person you marry
Tranquility lane aka the time you almost went crazy from the song alone
Alex Orozco why? It’s my favorite
Alex Orozco I had a fun time listening to this whilst murdering everyone w/ the kitchen knife it made me sane
Alex Orozco
Such good(AWFUL) Times .
(ITS STUCK IN MY HEAD AGAIN!!!!¡¡¡!)
HAhaHaHahahh
It won’t stop. It won’t stop! IT WONT STOP
This is one of the coolest things I’ve experienced playing fallout
How does DJ cook have 8 likes 💀
How tf dj you watch oxhorn to?
You are in my top three youtuber list I love your stuff keep up the amazing content 👑
Bro it’s DJ cook! So you’ve also recently gotten back into fallout? I have after many years.
And the creepiest
If the overseer had been a benevolent leader focused on improving their lives, I would have considered it a dilemma. Enlightened slavery vs desperate freedom.
As it stands, it's not even a question for me: death is better than living like that.
😂
The ethics on killing them: While doctors who practice on terminally ill humans are split on the notion, my feelings lie with those who work on animals. Ask any vet who sees a dog perpetually suffering and they'll say the exact same thing: "Well, I understand how hard this may be for you, and in truth, we can prolong its life at great cost to you, but even then, those remaining days will be that of suffering for your pet. At this point, it is my recommendation that I put it to sleep. Its suffering will be over, and the shot itself is completely painless, as is the resulting death."
These poor test subjects have been brutalized for two centuries already and, should you leave them in, completing Braun's tasks, their torment would continue indefinitely. Seriously, with nuclear generators powering that vault, the torment would continue for centuries...possibly even millennia. Leaving them alive would literally be consigning them to hell itself, with Braun as their devil. No, I completely agree with Bethesda's awarding positive karma for this choice. As hard of a choice this may be, it's quite literally the least of evils.
Isn‘t it lovely how modern societies have no problem with Euthanasia for animals?
A child with late-stage, terminal cancer which has built up resistance to all painkillers? No, no, no, killing them would eViL… You better suck it up, Timmy, LIFE IS SUFFERING.
“There are other ways to make Timmy cry. We can murder his parents”😂
The best way to make Timmy cry
@@juangaming-xw3zl The best way to make Timmy INTO BATMAN. :D
happy wheels in a nutshell
Just a prank bro.
I just clicked on the video and read this is Ox's voice lol I dont know why it was so funny.
This was one of my favorite parts of Fallout 3. It was so exquisitely designed, it had an unsettling air behind the facade
Your supposed to be in a different universe
BOAH
Do your balls shrink on a cold weather?
Where’s Dutch
But how did these people survive for 200+ years? They are not is suspended animation since they have normal pulses and blood pressure readings. There does not seem to be any nutrition supplied either. In vault 111 we were frozen. Here they are just sitting there.
“Where’s the fun in tormenting machines”
Clearly this man has never done an evil play through of fallout
@@josephstalin3488 hey
Or the Sims.
@@josephstalin3488 hey
@@josephstalin3488 hey
@@agentjakecx4311 WHAT!
Loved this quest much, very philosophical. Escaping the horror of wasteland by dreaming forever is a thing, but being used as a puppet by a psychopath during this dream is another. Damn, after 200 years of virtual torture, i think these poor people deserve eternal rest
“Take a hike, mutt.”
Heh. Even though you’re an adult, you’re so grounded when you get outta there. Especially if you blew up Megaton.
My character, Elsa Darrow, did blow up Megaton and sort of enjoyed "Betty's" tasks. Although I never made her hostile towards her dad. He dies ashamed of her. She has Very Evil karma at this point which results in PTSD by the end. I have to stay pro-Brotherhood, though. I'm playing a cross-over w/ New Vegas, so the Broken Steel DLC carries it forward. Evil karma sucks!
@@GothLady1987 what sucks even more is a fallout new vegas good karma female legion run nearly impossible to do and infuriating and confusing not only to every npc in the game the epilouge itself but you the player as well
@@wilmagregg3131 Exactly. You're branded a terrorist if you work w/ the Legion. Hell, they don't trust you if you work w/ Yes-Man, taking your own path (although you don't get the terrorist warning w/ the latter, just a warning).
“We can murder Timothys parents”
Bashed the father to literal chunks of meat in the process
*punch someone outside of simulation*: Ow wtf
*punch someone inside the simulation*: You have received the Bloody Mess perk
Who knew rolling pins can make great murder weapons.
@@MisterJohnDoe remember wick use pencil
One of my favourite sounds in all of fallout is the vault door sliding out and rotating away. I don't know why, but it just sounds so...cool!
The powah!!! 😼
Especially when you do a new game and leave the vault
same
So, this the whole WandaVision thing I've been hearing about
This is the best comment
😂
Yea
Exactly!
nah
Small child: *walks up to a Chinese soldier*
Soldier: COMERADEEEEE!!!
I would have laughed so hard if the reason they didn’t attack you Was because you were now wearing the communist hat. Triply so if Braun and dog James had to wear them too.
Not your child our child
Ha! I love how they went the extra mile of replacing the Pip-Boy with a watch. Nice detail.
A Pipboy watch. I want one so bad
Imagine if the devs forgot
honestly since we are talking about bethesda i am surprised they did that
It would've been more horrific if they just put "no signal" when you opened the pip-boy.
Yeah because Braun likes his touches lol
I like how your dad ask no questions even when you travel with a ghoul with power armor and a wig
Gaius Octaviues I’ve been watching ox for a while and I still don’t know why he’s wearing a wig
@@SofaPop. he found it during the quest to get the bill of rights I think
Why would you deny a ghoul a chance to wear a wig? That seems needlessly petty.
But the moment he hears about megaton hes like, "OH, IT MUST HAVE BEEN MY SON"
"Shit be wild, I get it"
1:16:30
Okay I never knew this. The password being the Tranquility Lane theme music was insanely clever. Hats off to Bethesda.
Yeah I just did it by trial and error, using the error beep as indication to start over. You get it eventually.
@@piercemchugh4509 trust me EVERYONE did it that way.
sucks that the game doesn't work on pc anymore so nobody gets to see that cleverness
@@a-surfin-bird8182 it takes some modding but it will run on windows 10
namaikikitsune i've bought the game 3 times on different platforms and i also tinkered with the programming but i just settled with playing on my old xbox
Dr. Braun: "Why re-make the old reality when instead you could create any reality you choose".
Also Dr. Braun: Creates suburban neighbourhood.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
@@jarvistoasty It caused the great war lmao
@ericbates8995 yep and even he himself say it when you talk to him after enabling failsafe.
Has anyone else recognized, that Betty's girl voice actress only got lines that don't say anything harmful?
That's some well thought out child protection in the production :)
Don't want to know how she felt, when she found out later in her life
She got to be a voice actress in the Fallout series; she can't have been anything but happy. Maybe a bit surprised to find that "Betty" is a disguise for a mad scientist, but still happy to have been a part of it all.
Oxhorn is corrupt and also reads straight from the wiki
@@Speedpunk650 explain how he is corrupt, hes not in a position of power where he can accept cash for smth illegal afaik.
And also, even if he reads directly from the wiki, theres more to it than that. The way he says things. The personality. *The video*. Thats all stuff the wiki itself cant give me.
@@Speedpunk650 explain please
@@Speedpunk650 the fuck is your problem? He actually doesnt. Also the idea that words cant be shared. He doesnt read straight. From the wiki
Oh my God I never noticed the Timmy garden gnome. I always wondered where he went
I never even noticed he disappeared lmfao
ME TO !?
Hilarious. I believe he did this cause Timmy angered Betty
Oxhorn proceeds to cut up the gnome.
starchiller115 You as$ 😣 you always made him cry? 🤨🤔.... I should do it at least once. In an evil character 🤔
Just me or does " Betty " look super creepy even when not sounding like an old man.
It's the smoky eyeliner with the "dreadlocks". No ten year old girl looks like that.
@@GothLady1987 i don't think they're meant to look like dreadlocks
Yes, but even just knowing that "Betty" isn't who "she" seems is enough to give me the creeps. Especially knowing that Betty is a man in a pod that has had control in his little "world" for 200 years is beyond scary.
Could be those damn eyes. Probably been losing sleep with that conscious.
That’s pretty much every character model in Fallout 3 I feel. Love this game, but those models haven’t aged all that well.
"M.Simpson...Marge?"
Me: "wait what the f-?"
It costs 400,000 people with the surname Simpson to operate Tranquility Lane for 12 seconds.
@@tasertag7513 *laughs in Russian*
It’s a reference...
"Simpsons theme starts playing"
ok nimi its what Oxhorn said
Love how everyone is fine with you running around their houses and mess with their stuff.
Kind of funny but tbh their houses are pretty empty.
I think it would be funny if one of the people in the game was self aware so when you walk into their house they just go “who the hell are you and why are you in my house get out (pulls out shotgun)”
they have to live with Betty and I'm sure she's done far worse
I was confused when I saw the robobrains but then I got to the room with the pods and figured “oh ok the vault dwellers are controlling these robobrains and they want me to be a robobrain too” And then I realised they’re the vault tech staff when I entered tranquility lane
"Radio!'
"Pitcher!"
"Gnome!
"Pitcher!"
"Cinder Block!"
"GNOME!"
"..."
"....Bottle..."
Kind of like Dumbledore
Was anyone actually able to figure that out on their own?
I was mostly I guessed
I continually clicked each object for a good 5 minutes until I came across the right order
@@chambeet I actually did. I was just exploring my surroundings. Hadn't even began to progress though the story. Found the objects, heard the sounds, I thought "hey there's something to this ....." Then poof. I stupidly activated the failsafe. I totally ruined my expiriance in tranquility lane by accident. It was over before it even began. Smh
tranquility lane reminds me of the short story "I have no mouth and I must scream" where after almost all life on earth is wiped out there are only a handful of humans left and they are made unkillable by an AI called AM who takes out its hatred of humanity on these people for all eternity until one of them finds a way to kill all the other humans ending their torment but in doing this he is now the only one left alive on a desolate planet with an AI who turns him into a strange blob monster to continue his torture for all eternity with the title of the book being the final thought going through the mind of the protagonist obviously its not recreated exactly in fallout 3 but the similarities are undeniable
THANK YOU. I have been looking for No Mouth for months but forgot the name of it!
@@ceoofsquareenix5842 you're welcome
@Robyn Gardam I think there is but I don't know for sure
Robyn Gardam Yes there is
Yeah, it’s a game called the same as the book. Told my dad there was a game based on the book and he seemed pretty surprised and happy about it, like he was happy someone else knew about it and recognized it. It is nice when possibly more obscure books get supplemental media like that. Means someone else likes them too.
I seem to recall mindlessly blundering my way through tranquility Lane without interacting with Betty much at all. I'm pretty sure I just looked in every house until I accidentally brute forced my way through the Fail-Safe
I have no clue how you figured out that puzzle, man. I made the “musical notes” sound, but had no clue I was supposed to do them in some order.
yeah that was about what I did too
@@chambeet when you did something wrong, there was a wrong-like sound, it was easy. I figured it out on 5 minutes
@Onward Turtle you're thinking of Juan valdez
@Onward Turtle Joe Mama
I would hug Timmy so hard whenever he cries, I just can't deal with hearing kids cry.
Same, when I heard him I kind of had the feeling to go hug him TT
Idk I loved makeing him cry in every way you can
@@ivanthe8602 I'll drink to that brother
I love the part that you actually spent minutes teaching us about blood pressure. I never bothered learning it, and I was about to google it out of curiosity, but you went ahead and explained anyways.
The voice actor for "Betty" is one of the few good voice actors in this game imo. She really does sound like Braun speaking through a little girl.
Alt title:
Oxhorn reads heart rates, blood pressures, and breath rates for 8 minutes.
Mar----------ge SIMPSON ?!?!?!?
eh, probably some alt. timeline.
That did annoy me I was eating crisps and got annoyed five mins in cuz I ate most the crisps and learned nothing
@@bingbonk7125 British? No American would call chips crisps.
@@papa-maple41 Homer was left for dead because no one lets him in anywhere. The children were left outside as well, because (I can only assume) this was a vault with only adults, and they were made children in Tranquility Lane. Marge was put into a state of depression, forgetting all her worries being put into the simulation. She'd forget everything being put in the Tranquility Lounger. Her husband and 3 kids, being forgotten, as well as everyone she knew and cared about.
Just adding some crossover fan lore to the game. :)
Odd...the virtual neighborhood looks damn near identical to the "Abandoned" neighborhood with the 2 Yao Guai and ghouls that you come across in FO4. The one where all of your companions are either creeped out by it, or curious as to where everyone's gone.
Which one do you mean?
What??
oh yeah it actually does wtf
The one with the cannibals?
Now I have to go back and play FO4 to see what the name of that spot was if it even had one.
The part where you have to make Timmy cry LEGIT made ME cry. I have a little boy and he's the same age as Timmy is in here. And it genuinely made me feel bad when I had to do this. Made me rethink life and the choices I've made in it.
Watching and listening to timmy cry for 2 minutes straight has made me the most uncomfortable i've been this week
It came off as fake to me but i might just be a psycho then. I think it’s an older kid making his voice higher than usual
This really reminds me of a twilight zone episode called “its a good life” it’s about a 5 year old who has the power to do whatever he wants and he kills people sends them all to “the cornfield” and it’s just a really creepy episode
That must've been the inspiration
God that episode is unsettling. It was an inspiration for Brightburn too.
@@erm12302 Indeed.
"Wish him into the corn field, Timmy"
I saw that one too and Timmy is a very "spoiled" omnipotent child, lol.
The show in general is creepy
Tranquility Lane was my very first experience with Fallout. I was fifteen, and totally blown away watching my cousin play. Probably one of my favorite parts of Fallout as a series.
Pretty similar experience at a similar age.. just now getting into the series on my own console
I like how as soon as the secret came out that doc the dog was the main characters dad, he told the dog to take a hike
I heard what you said about Timmy being an adult when you see him in his lounger but this simulation seems to be able to change peoples personality as evidenced by how everyone except old lady Dithers doesn’t remember life before the bombs and I mean the lone wanderer is a kid so why not Timmy.
I laugh everytime he says "Have you seen my dad?" In the exact same tone of voice every time he says it throughout the series
Never have I heard a man say "Bottle....." with such conviction.
Good god i tired to hit him with the rolling pin when she told to start killing the residents. (Gave me weird mass effect star child vibes with the you have no choice im in control feelings.) 😑
🅱️ O T T L E
time stamp?
@@a-surfin-bird8182 1:17:20
@@jurnoss thanks
53:20 actually, she confronts Roger and calls him a sicko/pervert if you convince her that he’s a cross-dresser.
That's sad. 😞
Eh, its a 50s mind set, I don't begrudge them (the characters) being a bit close monde. Would probably be immersion breaking to have them tout more progressive attitudes.
@@SorchaSublime It definitely makes sense in the game but, still sucks 😅
@@SmolPotatowo Oh yeah, it sucks for sure, but it serves as strong world building so I give it a pass in that context. If this had happened in a game set in the modern day boy would I be pissed though.
Glitch_FACE So grown man pretending to be little girl would be complitely okay for you in this day and age? Not at all creepy?
It's dangerous to let modern preferences to dictate what is and what is not morally acceptable. Because by that kind of thinking future would eventually (be it better or worse) prove us all wrong.
i remember one of my early play through back in the day fallout 3 was relatively new. i randomly decided to visit as many locations before going on with the main story. i randomly found this abandoned shack/garage out west. then i came across this vault and jumped alot of the main story lol
Darren Gwin yeah it’s totally possible to just go straight to smith Casey’s garage and pass half the story haha
I swim to Rivet City as the first thing I did just to get that Intelligence bobblehead for that sweet sweet min-maxing.
Darren Gwin same I never did the story right away I went to explore but I also killed eveyone 😂 I was so mean
Christopher Louis you better keep your fingers from it unless you want to loose out on almost perfect except if you need a specific skill like understanding
Happened to me as well, except I skipped ahead to Rivet City. Never did that again, though. I can't explore the Wastes without the chipper tunes of Galaxy News Radio.
When I got to this part of the game and saw the dog in the simulation I legit thought they’d somehow trapped dogmeat in the simulation with me. Actually come to think of it I haven’t seen dogmeat since I visited Vault 112, I’ve heard the wait 24 hours outside vault 101’s door but I’m on the homefront quest, he better be there when I’m done.
In all my time hearing/watching tragic stories from the Fallout franchise, Timothy crying was the most painful thing
“turning delinquents of tomorrow into leaders
of tomorrow” love a good oxhorn error xox
Actually if you tell janet that her husband is a crossdresser she does confront him. It sometimes doesn't happen but it's pretty funny when she does.
Blast I missed it!
@@oxhorn i think you also missed out on what would happen if you attack Betty/Braun. Of course its obvious what will happen, you get killed by Braun, but I was hopjng that it would turn up in the video like something in Mothership Zeta when you entered the vacuum of space without a Spacesuit, just because you could for the video.
I thought Betty/Braun telling you to kill everyone on Tranquility Lane was a perfect opportunity to attack her.
"You told me to kill EVERYONE, you know. . ."
@@theevokeruser2356 I mean fair enough that he missed it, he covered a lot. I still love that he just zaps you though.
@@theevokeruser2356 I remember that back in the day, my brother had a modded version of Fallout 3 for the Xbox 360 (neither of us played on PC back then), and you could spawn in a bunch of different characters via the pip-boy, Betty being one of them. I remember spawning her once in Megaton and attacking her. The creepy thing was that she'd immediately say in Braun's voice "You shouldn't have done that" and the game would freeze.
Brandon ,I have been watching your vids for years. You end most livestreams requesting that we "Be kind to everyone." Your lore vids have shown that to be a truth you live by. What a wonderful thing to announce and ask us to remember. Just an amazing thing to to remind us to do. We are your fans possibly (on my end) to hear just that; a man loving us everyday for that reason at least. Your wonderful story telling is the rest, the content does not matter. You give us hope. Keep doing what you do, this world needs the hope you help us find. GOOD MAN.
“I have no power over you”
Me: **Punches Betty**
Braun: That’s not how this works...
**Blows me up**
The fact that he passed up the 25 bottle caps shows how much of a legend Oxhorn is
It is fascinating to see how Bethesda leaves the player with difficult choices to make.
Even in Skyrim there are choices you can't truly make immediate choices.
You're very bold to say anythig postitve about Bethesda on the internet. lol. But I completely agree, the choice system in this was pretty good, and some missions have really stuck with me over other years. Tennpenny Tower really comes to mind as far as Fallout 3 goes.
@@khrashingphantom9632 Hey, this was way before Fallout 76 it’s completely valid.
@@oxideactual1018 I don't know. People HATE!!!!! Fallout 3 and Skyrim, which are apparently the worst games ever made with NO redeeming factors. And they're both so bad 100% because of Bethesda! Fallout New Vegas is the greatest game ever made and ANY flaws it has is because of Bethesda. They've never made a single good game EVER never! Lol.
@@khrashingphantom9632 alright I know your joking but as a hard-core new vegas player that shit is fucking glitchy and confusing as hell
to be honest, "Betty" said they are subconsciously aware so I'm sure that they subconsciously remember everything that happened to them in the simulation and are in pain. they might not be aware of it but they must just want it all to end and be free.
on a more spiritual thought, One could alter the mind and give false memories, but the soul would still remember no matter what, "Betty" does not have that kind of power.
I love how clear it is that the entire voice acting budget for this game was split between Ron perlman, Liam neeson, and Malcolm McDowell
Really? Which one played the women characters? 😃
@@jasontoddman7265 when I said "the entire budget" I didn't mean they only hired those three actors, I meant they gave those three actors almost all the money and didn't have much left to make sure any of the other actors were good
@@ChatookaMusic No worries. I was trying to be funny. As you can guess, I do not always succeed. 🙂
There should be an option to leave, disable Braun's super user status (and apply it to the other residents) so when the Chinese Invasion scenario is activated they only kill Braun
then it wouldn't be a very good moral dilemna
You can see the love put into making this beautiful baby shine through on missions like this. I miss fallout being completed, detailed, and of course badass rollercoaster ride.
I hit a glitch where I stayed a child when I left the simulation and was to short to open the Pod door...
Oh wow, that would have been amazing to go through the game like that. Imagine going to Little Lamplight and being let in quickly
“Charon, it’s me, let’s go”
“Wtf”
@@MisterJohnDoe 😂😂😂 I had charon too lmao
Even with an evil character I couldn't make Timmy cry I can't bring myself to do it
Owen Roper you can play as an evil character?
@@ako6760 yes you can, that's the karma system.
Ik I was saying you actually made evil choices I can’t make myself do it
Yeah. I’m the guy that tried to make everyone hate me then kill everyone with a flare gun but just couldn’t make Timmy sad AT ALL
When I did it on my first play through I immediately loaded a past save.
It makes me dumbfounded I see a TH-cam that can do so much content on a pretty old game, upload daily, and have a family life.Keep up the great work Ox.
"There are other ways to make Timmy cry... like murder his parents" 😂
This has to be one of the funniest oxhorn play bys. The narration is just so chipper
*Timmy* I didn’t mean to wet the bed *cries* 😏
Regardless of Dr. Braun's power in the simulation, a single scavenger with a crowbar in his vault would destroy everything and he wouldn't be able to stop it.
well lone wanderer tried with some icy saber yet failed
@@konyochien7824 plot armor
STOP THE LORE, I’ve caught word of another settlement that might need your help, let me mark it on your map
I NEED TP FOR MY BUNGHOOOLE
4 years later its been 4
Yes indeed, General.
Shut up damn it or i vill put you in tranquility lane and turn you into zhe parrot you villy are.
Can we wait on the castle?
Did anybody else find Timmy's crying really sad? Kinda broke my heart
Exactly
Yeah, but only his face moved, which was funny.
Making any kid cry on purpose is sad
This is why the first time I beat the game I used a walkthrough to help me skip right to the failsafe. I'm such a goody two shoes I couldn't bring myself to do that even in a video game.
In one of the animations it looks like he pokes his eye out
Dude, I just started watching your videos a few days ago and I’m hooked. MAGNIFICENT content, keep it up. You are single handedly keeping the fallout series alive!
You should watch the story of New Vegas
Take a shot every time Betty says "we're going to have so much fun"
I can’t I’m too shitfaced 😂
How to get kidney failure
Bill Foster seems like the kind of dude to have a bunch of stories to tell and a lot of advice to give
This is like "Leave It to Beaver" filtered though H P Lovecraft.
Moreso the Twilight Zone Episode "It's a good life" meets "The Matrix"
Sci pretty much!
F I L T E R E D T H R O U G H H P M I N E C R A F T
for me, it's like the Truman show but everyone accept lady dithers doesn't know their in a TV show, or simulation in this case.
oh man its been a hot minute since ive done tranquility lane, when i was a kid i could do the evil route (begrudgingly) but with no problem. now several years later i dont think ill ever be able to do it because i cant handle listening to timmy neusbaum cry. im such a wuss lmao.
Don’t worry, we are all like this; it’s a sign that you're as healthy and empathic as an average person should be
Not at all. It just means you've grown and understand empathy of some degree. Which is a good thing since it seems to be in short supply these days.
It appears you have this disease that makes you a wuss, they're called "morals" they allow you to not be an stoic asshole and they are very much necessary for human interaction.
Unless your playing *farcry* 3 in that case, throw most of your morals away since not a lot of people use them
@@Thehudats JASON! also fight me but imo FC4 is better than FC3 :3
For me it’s his cry. His cry is sooooo annoying omg
One thing I'm curious to see about (and it'd seem right up Braun's alley to like this kind of scenario) is whether you can mix methods for maximum mayhem regarding the Rockwell's marriage. Basically, frame Janet with the bloodied rolling pin and, before Roger gets to her, convince Janet that he was cheating on her. Now they're both angry as all hell, and Betty/Braun would get a massive amount of amusement out of this explosive end to their marriage.
Ahh the key to immortality in video games: hold very still for 200+ years
Also spinning around like an idiot.
That was a Pm Seymour reference
Don’t mention Mr. House’s sucky sucky machine and salad spinner helmet 😂
"What could we place on the desk"
Well if you want to ruin a marriage Janet would be a good pick
Damn.
I just got it😂
@@bigdaddykermit1616 lol nice, I had to re watch the video to understand what I was talking about when I posted this
Why is Timmy leaving his roller skates in other people’s houses?
One word: Braun
He Is a skate punk before they became cool.
Anybody want a pizza roll? Post a comment on this webzone if you want a pizza roll.
Well I doubt this is really useful information or whatever, but I thought I would share.
Back in the day, talking around after ww2. It was really common for streets of residental's for children to go around and play with other children and since neighborhoods were very close knit with one another, people knew each other. Invited families over for dinners, parties. All of that. And children were allowed a great deal of freedom, being able to run out of the house and play and visit people.
My grandmother and my grand uncle (Grandmother's brother) They would go to neighbor's houses and spend time with them, listen to their stories. Watch TV's at their house and it became the neighborhood's children hangout. All children from the neighborhood would go home from school during the fall and winter, go to said house and would enjoy candy, hot cocoa and watch their tv's. Since at the time most of their families were not rich enough to afford a TV.
The people who had the house were a Priest and his wife, they never could have children (This is what my grandmother says, but who knows.) And they were supposedly very kind people, who loved children and took a real shinning to my grand mother and her brother.
Children would ride bikes, run and play in the backyards and go to the house to relax and watch all manner of shows. (My grandmother said she would watch Mickey Mouse club house, the old old TV series. If you have not seen it, it's actually kind of funny. For me anyways-)
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It could just be that neighborhood liked Timmy, he being the only other child (Aside from that freak and the vault dweller) It wouldn't surprise me if people took the kid into their homes and enjoyed his company, as well as probably being close family friends. Or maybe Bethesda messed up on this, but I doubt it.
Well I doubt this is really useful information or whatever, but I thought I would share.
Back in the day, talking around after ww2. It was really common for streets of residental's for children to go around and play with other children and since neighborhoods were very close knit with one another, people knew each other. Invited families over for dinners, parties. All of that. And children were allowed a great deal of freedom, being able to run out of the house and play and visit people.
My grandmother and my grand uncle (Grandmother's brother) They would go to neighbor's houses and spend time with them, listen to their stories. Watch TV's at their house and it became the neighborhood's children hangout. All children from the neighborhood would go home from school during the fall and winter, go to said house and would enjoy candy, hot cocoa and watch their tv's. Since at the time most of their families were not rich enough to afford a TV.
The people who had the house were a Priest and his wife, they never could have children (This is what my grandmother says, but who knows.) And they were supposedly very kind people, who loved children and took a real shinning to my grand mother and her brother.
Children would ride bikes, run and play in the backyards and go to the house to relax and watch all manner of shows. (My grandmother said she would watch Mickey Mouse club house, the old old TV series. If you have not seen it, it's actually kind of funny. For me anyways-)
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It could just be that neighborhood liked Timmy, he being the only other child (Aside from that freak and the vault dweller) It wouldn't surprise me if people took the kid into their homes and enjoyed his company, as well as probably being close family friends. Or maybe Bethesda messed up on this, but I doubt it.
I'm surprised you didn't try the hilarious path of punching Betty
* Lone Wanderer punches Betty *
Betty: Omae wa mou shindeiru.
Lone Wanderer: Nani?
* Lone Wanderer explodes *
“You can’t do that here. And now you have to pay.”
(Explosion)
"Unlimited! POWER!"
@@matthewmoran3851 lame
@@matthewmoran3851 Me with god mode: *You have no power here, mortal.*
Ox, you work so hard to make us these great videos. Thank you, dear sir. I just want you to know you are appreciated.
Indeed its good to appreciate the creators you like. Hey could I intrest you on some Fallout Machinima and Fallout related Music?
I played F3 when I was like 11, this is a trip down memory lane for me. I'm so glad I stumbled across this game for Xbox 360
I love at like 10:00 or so, I’m learning more from a guy who plays fallout and narrates videos (and does a great job btw) than my old high school anatomy teacher
I hope we get unique missions like this in the next fallout
Those will cost 2000 atoms a piece.
I'd put using a bit of a cyborgs brain matter to witness his life story so I can find out where he put a child on par with a vault of VR hell
Fallout died
@@PedroApp nah, it's pretty far from dying.
@@PedroApp it ain't dead
There’s a term invented for situations like this, where it’s better to put something out of its misery than to let it suffer: “mercy kill”.
“Mercy killing is a last resort. Glad you recognized we had options.”
@@Spectrik I see what you did there.
Timmy sounds so friendly I didn’t like make him cry
He's a momma's boy
Yea me neither I just sent in Chinese ops
Wish there was way to beat the vault w/o making him cry
@@michaelmike5259 there is the just use the failsafe terminal
YEAH I FELT SO BAD😿😪😥😭😢😕🙁☹️😞
Tranquility Lane sounds like a good name for a classic TV show
Oxhorn(IRL): “HEY JAMES! CAN YOU HEAR ME?! **Sigh** Looks like he can’t hear us😥”
Oxhorn(IRL) 1 minute later: “BRAWN! BRAWN! He can’t hear us either😥”
So, basically, I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, but AM is a human?
Also: Have you seen my daaad?
NeRethil Wolfsson so the difference between an omnipotent supercomputer and a human is a human is far more impatient. I really should have guessed.
tHAT IS A SHORT STORY BY hARLAN eLLISON, i BELIEVE.
AM was much more cruel though
Dark somnium
Thinking about this decision, whether you kill off the residents or leave them there, is difficult but I believe I would choose to pull the kill switch. Sure, these people believe they live in a seemingly perfect world, with no cares or worries, but that belief doesn't negate the fact that they have suffered being toyed with by a lunatic for 200 years. Sure, they might not remember it, but it still happened to outside observers. Since this is the Matrix in the Fallout Universe, I think that ending their eternal suffering would be better than leaving them in the simulation, ignorant of the truth of their existence and what's happening to them.
However, if there had been a way to release them from Tranquility Lane without letting out Braun (because he totally deserves to rot in there alone), then I don't think the residents would be more receptive of the truth of the world. We would have essentially taken them from a perfect world into a post-apocalyptic wasteland filled with mutated monsters, harsh standards of living, and the threat of death every day. It would seem like being pulled from paradise into a living hell. Even if we saved them and told them the truth, I sincerely believe they would have wanted to go back. A perfect life, without remembering the horror that Braun made them experience whenever he hit the reset button. They would have wanted to go back, and would have damned us for taking them away.
So, I think the kill switch was the only way. Yes, the Chinese Invasion was cruel, but they would have been freed regardless. No more simulations, no more accidents, no more being stuck on repeat with this creepy doctor hiding under the guise of a little girl constantly dreaming up ways to make them suffer for his amusement. He would be punished, forced to remain in that little world he created all alone to suffer like they did. They would never know the horrors of the world after the bombs, never know about the super mutants, raiders, radscorpions or hounds, never know what living with radiation and starvation felt like. It seems so harsh to kill them all, but when compared to what they've gone through and what they would be forced to endure if released into the wasteland, it was actually a kindness.
I agree; as much as I hate the way they die, it's a mercy. Even if they don't remember what Braun did to them, they still lived it - and he still derived pleasure from it. People like that, like him, deserve to be isolated for eternity with no way out. They deserve to feel the same torment that they put others through.
@@wilddragonflyinggames9029 I just kept thinking of how Braun manipulated them so horribly. He would kill them, make them turn on each other, wreck their personal relationships, pick at their insecurities and emotions, and then just reset everything just to do it again. To be left completely unaware of all of this, turned into a doll going through the same old routine over and over, is just profoundly disturbing. And if the option were available, to force them out into the world that is just as harsh and not nearly so forgiving would also be cruel. Let them rest, finally.
WildDragonFlying Games you hate it? It’s hilarious, a literal commie invasion
K Cook The same can be said about real world. Sure our world is way older than 200 years (and assuming god is a real) but who are you to decide what is merciful and what isn't. If I would be in simulated fantasy world I don't want someone else to plug me off. The only one who can plug me off is myself.
Normaali Ihminen there actually is a person you interact with wich tells you if you should kill them or not. It’s the granny and once her pot started to malfunction she was free from Braun’s influence and therefore experienced all the resets for years. Imagine other pods malfunction and more people driving insane, is it still easy to judge to end their live or not?
I wish you had an option to get Braun out of the simulation. Or if you could change the simulation in the failsafe
Yeah I was thinking that. Like maybe you can cause his pod to fail for him in the real world to die and not be stuck alone in the simulation for all eternity. I wonder how the developers would treat karma in that case, would you gain good karma or bad karma. In theory you should gain good karma since you take pity on him but maybe they throw a curve ball and feel he deserves being stuck in there and they give you bad karma XD
Or open the pod, like with Mr. House.
@Lipton41047 I'm sure he'd be chill with his pod being opened.
I wanted to blow him up. That would have done it, right? I didn’t even want a man like him to be stuck forever but I guess it’s his own fault...
I do kinda wish there was a different ending to the game if you asked for your wish to be to join him and have the same power.
Can we just appreciate Timmies voice actor? He actually sounds like kid instead of a robot.
It's most likely a woman that voice acts him
"There is always a choice, sometimes it's just easier to make."
That didn't just make me feel bad for every bad karma decision I've ever made.
-a habitual good karma player because I feel bad for hurting the virtual people's feelings.
After making Timmy cry, I reloaded the save and swore revenge, never talked to "betty" explored the houses and did the China people thing, but 3 people were inside one building and 2 in another building and survived
Yup, I stopped following along with Betty/Braun 2 after they had me make Timmy cry. Poor kid needed his Fairly OddParents.
@@JamesSmith-jf1hz i slaughtered everyone while saying it was fun the whole time lol
Thats got to be the calmest crying Ive ever seen. No tears, no other actions other than wailing.
Timmy is a kid beacause when he entered the vault he was a kid but now he’s an adult
So, he aged over the course of 200+ years, but everyone else didn't? Right.
ShroudedWolf51 ikr
No, it's whatever Bruan chooses to have the people be as, it's a simulation that he controls
ShroudedWolf51 It’s probably part of the simulation, but they could just age very slowly.
So that's why Dad was a dog, because he had been dog all along.
It seems fun to be in something like the Old World but I would want it to be the entire country or something, that one neighborhood would drive me insane
Fallout 4s map get boring after a few nonstop years at most
Timmys’ crying sounds like he’s a jazz vocalist from the 80’s
"Radio, Pitcher, Gnome, Pitcher, Cinder block, Gnome...
1:17:00
…Bottle"
-Oxhorn
Thumper Miner HQ 1:17:20
Who was actually able to solve this puzzle on their own? I sure as fuck didn’t.
Edward Chamberlin if you did it as a process of elimination sort of thing rather than a song puzzle it wasnt that bad
But there's a fourth way to end their marriage.
1. Go into the bathroom.
2. Lift up the toilet seat.
3. Tell Janet. 🤣
@Onward Turtle yep
WAIT REALLY
@@skeppyfan1415 Yes oh honorable potato.
Jeez their marriage is hanging on a thread. It would do them good to split up sooner than ever so the Lone wanderer probably just sped up the process
seriously?
Timmy crying hurts my soul.
Help him. Hug this poor baby waby. He needs love.
Your profile pic scares me
😬
Many years passe but I still remember how great and unique this part of game was
Can I just say Im very grateful that you went through every dialog option/action path. A lot of playthroughs Ive seen just pick one path and Ive always been curious about what the other options might have lead to. So thank you for this treat to listen to while I work!