I think Captain Maxson was right. Imagine what he could have done if he could have contacted other Army units that survived and didn't join the Enclave. There could be Brotherhood in Canada, Alaska, or China.
I like how Maxson is oblivious to the fact that being a Mailman in the Fallout universe gives you the power to kill everything and ruin entire factions in little under a week.
@@NurseAmamiya : some milk drinker in a vault who magically saves an entire region with no life experience other than living the most sheltered life possible. VS a delivery guy who has to traverse across the deadly wastes and stay alive at all costs and has to/has had to do so his whole life. The OG VD is a Mary Sue of the greatest kind. So if you’re arguing against a Mary Sue in the Mailman, your preferences contradict your argument.
@@jaybird0312 From your description the Courier sounds like the main character in the movie "Falling down as the "Mailman" is just trying to get on with his day people fuck his day up now he kills those people.
@@jaybird0312 THEY ARE ALL MARY SUES CANT YOU SEE? FOR GOD'S SAKE BEING A MARY FUCKING MEANS YOU HAVE ALL THE ABILITIES ALL CHARACTER TRAITS THAT ARE GOOD ONLY GOOD ONES.
The fact scavengers stole stuff by joining the brotherhood explains quite well why the brotherhood we meet in Fallout 4 Makes you buy your equipment or earn it through missions.
yup. but i also dont think they would leave their soliders with nothing. youd get a fire arm and ammo and armor at the least. easily replaceable stuff though.
@@baggieboydan82 yes after being knighted. which would normally take a lot of time. we were fast tracked because of danse vouching for our combat prowess as well as maxson most likely hearing about us killing kellog, a well known boogeyman of the commonwealth. so we earned it. scavengers getting baseline supplies then fleeing would be all to common
AkodoKusamoto he’s been doing this aloooong time. Ox is a veteran of making videos. Timing is everything which is something he learned a long time ago as you can see haha
He ain't wrong. People need something to believe in or they loose all hope. No matter how hard it gets, as long as there is hope then there's always someone who will fight for it. It makes me look at The BOS in a new light.
And ironically John Maxon do feel like Roger to an extent. I mean he is amiable and even deciding to stop the Supermutants and eventually helping local communities in contrast to more isolationist elders.
@@ShadowSearcher31 You are completely wrong. Lyons neglected Technology in favour of helping people. Lyons was a fool and fought against mutants for 20 years and still didn’t win even though he had a lead where they were coming from and did not investigate. Roger never would’ve neglected Technology for helping people.
20:42 when roger said “some general is going to walk out of a vault and start ordering us around” roger is right WE the player are that general and WE the player do start another wave of nuclear death in the main quest line
In 76 we are only a Knight-arrent, not a general. We only become a general in the Enclave in 76. Even in F04, I don't think we ever become a general in the Brotherhood.
I may be wrong but the "75" in the "Thunder 75" logo means "75th Army Ranger Regiment" and not 2075. Edit: In the war game orders it said that they were Army Rangers. Which belong to the 75th Ranger Regiment, which is the only Ranger regiment.
The unit insignia is also a spin on the 75ths actual unit crest and they refer to they’re unit as a regiment and mention not having an airborne component, the 75th is one of the only army units who operate as a regiment and they’re also an airborne unit
I hear the choppers hovering their hovering overhead, they've come to get the wounded, but I jumped in instead. DIE DIE WHY WON'T YOU DIE, Rangers lead the way.
Honestly this wasn't a bad story, since Scorhbeasts are such great threat they could continue this theme in Fallout 5. For example If Bethesda would choose Chicago they could properly reintroduce Enclave into franchise. Btw next video could be about Enclave and creation of Scorchbeasts.
No, the Enclave has been destroyed 3 separate times. Chicago area would more than likely be controlled by the midwest BOS from Fallout Tactics. Ceaser even said the legion ran into them when you talk to him in FONV. Sierra Bravos are just some unbelievable OP enemy made up by Bethesda so they didn't have to have NPCs. They should definitely stay in FO76.
@Tagan Reaper I had thought Richardson said all of the Enclave were on the oil rig and at the base. How big could a covert criminal element of the prewar US government have been? So Bethesda wanted them in FO3 because they are cool and did a bad job of writing them in....OK, it worked... kind of. They need to stop though. The pre war US government and military is gone. The Enclave has been destroyed 6 ways from Sunday and any attempt by Bethesda to bring them back in force would be an assult on intelligent FO fans. What you see in FONV is what Enclave would look like. A few elderly people or their children with advanced PA Mk. II or Hellfire and a plasma rifle. A FEW ! A side story at most. They are not on the moon or in Africa. They were a small group of disgusting government and corporate officials with brainwashed "yes men" as an army. They are dead and their cause was flawed and defeated....and a lie The remaining people don't even think the Enclave cause was just and would tell their children that the Enclave was evil.
@ Space Marine Chaplin It's entirely possible, but you are talking about 545 house reps and senators. Most of the wheels that make government turn are regular people who think the government is good. If those tens of thousands of people find out the people at the top are not good, there is a good chance that there will be problems. So, the covert criminal element of the government and corporations would have to kind of keep it under raps which would limit their over all numbers in the future. Plus, they don't want anything to do with mutated people post-war, so there is no way for them to grow that large again.. All the brainwashed troopers they had were killed in the west by NCR and BOS, killed by BOS on the east coast twice, are elderly or have died of old age. We see in FONV that the former Enclave are not even considering trying carry the torch. They were pee-ons and some of them didn't like what the Enclave was doing anyway. It's kind of like the Nazi Germans making a comeback. They had one crack at doing what ever it is they were trying to do, but were destroyed and will never come back in force as the Third Riech. Some got away. Hell, Hitler may have even got away. People know about them though, know they were a flawed idea and they could never gain the support needed to be any kind of actual threat as the same grey coats and Nazi flag. Enclave- "a portion of territory within or surrounded by a larger territory whose inhabitants are culturally or ethnically distinct. " So, the very definition of "Enclave" means it is something small inside of something much larger and different than itself. As Alex Jones would put it "A small covert, criminal element inside the US government." They are dead and the gig is up. Everyone knows they are evil. They tried to kill everyone... twice!
Putting together diverse lore from so many locations is quite an accomplishment! I never found the cave that started the story either. Amazing work, really enjoyed this video, one of my favorites so far from fo76 😄
@TRISTAN KAHL tech is kind retro because they dont use chips so they focus mostly on nuclear energy so powerarmor was very very important because of radiation. Chip stuff was kind great thing if you think about it..
I believe the "75" on the insignia is supposed to represent the 75th Ranger Regiment of the US Army Special Operations Command. The thunderbolt on the insignia makes it reminiscent of the real life one as well.
Man, those holotapes and notes that give you a small insight into what happend allways give me goosebumps. Overarching storyline or not but those "sniplets" are something Beth has done astonishingly well in all of the fallout games.
You think you missed the holotape called "the nuclear option" at Taggerdy's Quarters!" It's a great conversation between Taggerdy and Roger and definitely adds to the story.
that particular line about squires always bugged me. Squires were young adults, of fighting and marriage age, but still in training. Pages were the kids.
My God. This was so f*ckin' sad! The entirety of it! I remember when I was young and just vaguely understanding fallout 1 & 2 and as this entire story plays out I just keep thinking back. About how mysterious the BoS seemed then and how the graphics and art of that time made me feel. It was like that pixley style was part of the lore. It made the games atmosphere. It makes me feel so sad to think how long ago it was that this happened and went down (in the story). I so wish to see how this story all played out. It would be so amazing and sad! This was really intense and sad to sit through but what made me get all teary-eyed was the last few seconds of you fighting the Bravos at one of the sites without saying anything and that sorrowful music playing... All I could think of was what their last thoughts must have been seeing all those SB's. The final moments for each member and how this was, in a sense, at the beginning of the entire fallout franchise.. I wish there were survivors... :'''(
I just want to add my thanks in addition to all the others doing the same. This was a fantastic video. It is interesting to learn that Elder R. Maxson was not happy about the isolationist stance his successors implemented. I was always under the impression that that had been B.O.S. S.O.P. from the organization's earliest days.
FO76 has really redeemed itself with the BOS lore - a great link to Mariposa + Maxson in FO1. I wish the other factions had the same depth of storyline in the game, especially the Free States. I'm not paying for Free States vending machines or other gimmicks.
A lot of the factions are localised. The ones that are present in multiple areas are generally antagonistic; like the Enclave. The Brotherhood is certainly more of a mixed bag. Their condemnation of Ghouls and their tendency to fall into zealotry & autocracy is their bad side. They do have a better side; putting down Ferals and hostile super-mutants, saving tech. They are complex, which makes them useful for stories. The Railroad is too focused, the NCR is tied to it's territory, the Legion is barely above a raider army, the Minutemen are localised is too weak until you build it up (and is tied to the Commonwealth), the Insitute & the Enclave are explicitly intended to be evil... The Brotherhood can be good or bad depending on their leadership's position.
When most people hear that Fallout 76 has the Brotherhood of Steel they get up in arms about 'Bethesda lore breaking' the series. When I first discovered the cave where the Thunder were when the bombs dropped, it totally changed the way I thought about the BOS in FO76. I thought it was amazing and well incorporated . It is just sad that this rich piece of lore is so hidden away (it was almost the last place I found on the whole map). I think you have done a superb job at bringing this very interesting story to light. One of the best stories of Fallout 76, most definitely.
I think it was more a natural reaction, the strong protecting the weak, as a military ethos. It wasn’t until more rigid orders came down that the local BoS chapter became less engaged with the other factions.
That's how the brotherhood started. Only a little smarter. Training people in how to use valuable tech while keeping dangerous pieces away from others. Protecting the people. Like a technologically advanced minutemen almost.
I know it's implied that everyone died, but I have a headcanon now that the proud Army Ranger who thought about going west survived everything, went west, and became a Desert Ranger. Not likely with all the doom and gloom, but hey I can dream. Although the writer was one of the original Thunders, weren't they? And there were only two left or were their bodies found? So, likely not? Love the video, Ox! Been hoping for a BoS video.
I wonder if Grant McNamara is related to Elder McNamara of the Western Brotherhood in Fallout: New Vegas. 🤔 Maybe his great great grandfather or something...
I've also wondered about Gwen McNamara of Vault 81 and former Secretary of Defense (real world) Robert McNamara. I'm NOT wondering if they're all supposed to be related to one another. Just one pair or another.
Dang Ox. I've played this mission through, read all the terminals, an notes. But watching this episode breaks my heart, the ignorance, but fortitude these soldiers had is crazy. Almost feels like a real part of our history. Loved it.
@@robertmitchell9559 If only Maxson hadn't been such a doofus. I mean come on, they get defeated by tato farmers and ancient artillery. Its comedic gold!
I feel sorry for Maxson, his dream was a good one, one where people should be able to get along and treat everyone fairly, but over time and some bad eggs, it became rotten. Instead of a symbol of hope as he liked, it became one of fear and hatred you could say. As the Brotherhood took things from people from, killing those who were different and stood in their way, just like the Raiders. It really is a shame. Sure to some they were hope, but for those who were fighting to stay alive for another day, they were just like another Raider Group, taking things that don't belong to them by force.
Kind of reminds me of how Deacon, an individual from the Capital Wasteland who ran with a group he called the Deathclaws who never existed turned rotten and he left them. A guy who had visited Little Lamp Light and knew MacCready, who had been at the Iron Citadel and knew Maxson as a squire. Who mentioned growing up in a vault and had knowledge of prewar literature.
@Alen So, people don't fear the Brotherhood? It was Maxson's hopes and dream to make a better place for the future, but instead, because of certain events and actions of others, whilst some people see them as hope, others fear them because they act like raiders instead of people meant to protect as Manson hoped for? We have seen many of their actions that leads us to see them like raiders, taking food and such by force.
@Alen I might deny it, but I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Even Oxhorn who says that whilst he likes the Brotherhood, he even sees them like raiders at times. If you have other thoughts I would like to hear them, as I'm writing a fanfiction story and so want to hear both sides to help me to write it.
The whole BoS story and also the story of the Responders, makes me so sad. I get really emotional, when I listen to their Holotapes and read their stories. Like the Survivor stories you first find, when you head into Flatwoods. Or the story of the Fire Breathers... Bethesda is great about creating a living, breathing, open world, with all the stories left behind by those who tried to make the world a better place, but failed. :( I can't wait for the BoS to return to Appalachia this Fall!!
I adore the brotherhood in 76 It’s arguably the best Bethesda did at fleshing out the brotherhood aside from fallout 4 The idea of an early more public brotherhood was a very interesting concept that I feel they did well Even if we didn’t get to properly witness it.
The CMM I completely get that argument tbh I like to just write it off as ‘oh well it’s not impossible. It just wasn’t a focus’ But I completely get why people don’t like it. Hell I didn’t when they were announced. But I suppose retcons are inevitable when it comes to Bethesda As unfortunate as it is.
@BrianConqueror80 The Underwater Demolition Teams UDT started in WWII were the Navy Seals and were turned into the Navy Seals. UDTs complete with skydiving frogmen saw action in WWII and Korea. Any of these pre Navy Seal UDTs are considered Navy Seals. Don't ever think that no one would be greedy or corrupt without oil. The people that really run shit in the world will take us on anything. There was oil in FO world. They didn't go full nuclear until after 2050 because oil was starting to run out. So that is over 100 years after WWII that they were running on oil. What ever resourses or rare earth minerals there are that everyone needs or wants, you can be sure that people will want to control, steal and profit off of them so they are rich well beyond imagination. Who ever has you believing that oil is this root of all evil probably owns massive shares in the nuclear or renewable resourse industry or both. Probably the same people with the most shares in the oil corporations. Also, not every single thing with the time split is set in stone, this is why Bethesda will only say "WWII happened," because they don't want to lock themselves down to things like ...There was no Delta, Green Berets or Navy Seals among a million other things. 50s culture
Watching your Fallout lore videos makes me feel like I have my own personal tour guide to every game. So many things I would have completely missed across games from Fallout 3 to 76. Thank you for all your hard work. Can't wait for another.
It's been quite a while since I've watched any of your videos, but by God do they get me excited about all the lore that still exists! Make me want to play all the games again!
Vault 76 Troglodyte: **Dances like a tribal seeing a vertibird for the first time upon seeing oxhorn.** Oxhorn: **Pointedly averts gaze** Oxhorn's the hero your self respect and dignity needs.
Hey Ox, not sure if this comment will reach you but there are some important hollotapes that were missing in this great video! Some final logs between Taggerdy and Maxon about launching nukes at the SBs! They are very interesting
Only recently found Taggerdy's cave. After hearing her story. I am curious. Before Maxson was cut off, was he about to say he loved her or something else. I know he had a wife and son, but we don't know how close these two were. 51:12
got to love it! hardened solders can not take down these monsters but a few random jerks from a literal hole in the wall do it on the norm with rusty guns and golf clubs
This was the epic story of the Brotherhood in Appalachia I’ve been waiting for. With all its far flung lore, I wasn’t sure how Ox was going to pull it off. But he managed it! Imagine how different it would have been had the Responders, Fr͏e͏e States, and Brotherhood formed a war council to combat the scorched. But alas, they did not. It’ll be interesting to see if this faction gets reintroduced with Wastelanders. Maybe a BoS deserter comes back, after the scorched threat has settled. Maybe there are other BoS secrets in the area to unlock. Maybe a separate group went dark to provide a continuity contingency. All I know is I keep doing the Forbidden Knowledge quest so I can try and get the higher end BoS T-60 paint scheme. I’m currently stuck on BoS Knight.
I still wish the Brotherhood, Responders, Free States and the raiders had been npcs from the beginning. But I'll gratefully take the settlers and raiders.
Ox, awesome work as always. I would never have found the cave at the start, so looking forward to a trip to the Divide in the next few days. Quick suggestion: it would be really cool if you could do a timeline video of major events in appalachia prior to the opening of Vault 76. I think a lot of players know some of the major points, but don't have a holistic picture of how the events are tied up. How all these parallel groups (Responders, BoS, Raiders, FS, Enclave) all emerge from the Ashes of nuclear Armageddon to how they all meet their demise one by one. Would complement the individual faction videos nicely. :)
ill admit: ive never been a fan of the BOS. in fallout 4 i always play against them. but this background on them made me full on cry. thank you for telling their story and shedding light.
I seriously love the Fallout series so much and i was so sad when I heard everyone talking trash about Fallout 76. But seeing you play it and hearing about all of the lore has made me feel confident enough to get it. Im glad theres still people out there who like Fallout 76 because while it may have its faults i still think it's a overall good game :).
I always found it really weird that the brotherhood of steel only used vertibirds instead of repairing the hundreds of tanks and APCs scattered over all the games
Yes it’s here!!!!!!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 Also more people need to see ox’s videos because people complain that 76 ruined lore but they need to get on this channel and learn a thing or two
There is definitely lore in 76. It’s harder to absorb though, since much of it is geographically spread apart. It makes you work for it. I remember talking with a friend a few months back about how the BoS lore didn’t make sense. He didn’t understand the timelines of the games, and how W VA fit in. It’s really a beautifully tragic tale of the BoS chapter in Appalachia.
@@daniel7767 I have played all of them and even a few by obsidian. 76 didnt ruin the lore at all. If anything it built on it. The lore is not spoon fed. You have to make a effort. Alot of the holotapes I have found and notes are tragic and paint vivid pictures of what happened. Anyone who thinks there is no lore hasent played the game. Anyone who thinks it "ruined" fallout needs to watch some of oxs videos. Anyone who still hates it can play something els.
After watching this, I love Roger Maxson as a character. He might be disappointed if he could see what became of the Brotherhood of Steel in other games (im looking at you, New Vegas)
There us way to much lore. I've seen a few channels that tackle it. With what I can tell is almost 3000 years, leading into what is I think the 4th era(Skyrim). Then you add in ESO.. You get into Scanners head explosion.
Not with how much I absolutely can't stand multiplayer games. Unless they managed to make a non pvp world for 76 (last time I tried was right after release), this is infinitely more enjoyable
@@ArtifactADU well, the fact that this game is 25 years after the nuclear bombs dropped, it would be out of place to have a lot of people this close to the bombs. Population would need time to rebuild. It would be ridiculous to have a population level like Fallout 4 this early in the apocalypse
@@jvazacas The holotapes exist, which means the people were there and those things happened. My argument was that it would be way better gameplay to play through those things that we know happened, instead of just hearing about it through holotapes.
This video helps me understand the BoS a bit more. Just enough more to hold a new perspective of them across all the games, especially Fo4. Their cause seems a little less arrogant now, although they themselves don't understand the full extent of their goals, I now do. This greatly helps with roleplay factor as I won't have sympathy for any "abominations" while being a member of the BoS. This also greatly helps solidify the fact the default Sole Survivor Nate would join the BoS due to his Pre-war Army experience, and default Nora as Rail Road due to her background as a lawyer and fighting for equal rights, definitely seeing the humanity in a synth. Great video, and a definite help personally.
I completely agree. I like to think the canonical ending to Fallout 4 is the BoS victory over the Institute, with the Sole Survivor becoming a Sentinel. It feels like because of the male Sole Survivor’s military background, and his desire to return things to the way they were Pre-war (even tho he knows that he can’t truly do that because War... War never changes) as well as the vision of the BoS appealing to his nature as a human being. He wants to preserve the world that he lost, and make sure things don’t go down hill again, the way they did. He understands some of the immorality of the BoS, but his viewpoint of them isn’t swayed by it. This is because of the Brotherhood’s duty to citizens of the Wasteland as their protection and defense against all threats. They kill Super Mutants, Feral Ghouls, Synths (that serve as a hinderance to the people of the Wasteland, like the Institute. They understand just what’s at stake to leave a free-willing machine alive.), Raiders, and anyone or anything that could prove to be a danger. The Sole Survivor understands the gravity of the situation, so he knows the justification of killing some Synths that while may not be a known danger, they definitely present a severe security risk for everyone. These ideals coincide with the preservation of technology. The Sole Survivor knows that the technology of the Wasteland must be taken into good hands, for the better. The cleansing of the Wasteland is justified. All of this gives him pride in what he does as he lives in this Wasteland, knowing that the military force he affiliates with holds true to the Justice and Liberty of the Wasteland. The ideals of the Brotherhood of Steel guide him to be a true soldier of Righteous Authority. For the greater good. Ad Victoriam!
This is why i watch your videos. You do all the research and get me back into games that i grew up playing over and over. Brotherhood for life, and as our friend three dog would say, keep fighting the good fight kid
Paladin Taggerdy reminds me of Janeway. Someone with a load to bear, but who deeply cares about her people and the people she wants to save. Note: I have not watched to the end, so if she goes bananas, and kills like a raider base full of kids, I don’t know that yet.
I found interesting how Maxson and Caesar are really similar in the way they see a faction should work and that they work for something greater than themselves, they even refer to the Roman Empire in a point.
Another awesome video! I blame Paladin Elizabeth Taggerdy for the fall of BoS in Appalachia, it was a direct result of her decisions. Also, has anyone noticed that "Taggerdy" and "Tragedy " is basically just an anagram, taking into account they needed to add another "g?" I believe that this was intentional, and is further shown by the terminal entry shown at 18:38. Taggerdy is used directly above the word tragedy, clearly a veiled reference to her future decisions.
I went through all the trouble to join the BoS and missed so much of this lore. It was a major pain in the ass and the last thing I did. This video is great.
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I’m guessing Gwen McNamara was born in Vault 81 so Grant mostly likely isn’t her parents or grandparents but Grant could possibly be a direct descendant.
This is one of the most emotional stories there is this whole world is sad and its dying but to hear how they tried to help everyone and the odds just overwhelmed them its heartbreaking..
Elder Lyon's trip to the east happened about 200 year later !, as West Virginia Brotherhood had dispeared 25 years after the war, i think that they didn't had any news frow West Virginia since 150 years at least!
Only if Elder Lyons gained access to that holotape where Roger Maxson complains about the isolationism infesting his followers! He could have used that to shame the Outcasts into rejoining.
Originally elder Lyons came from the West coast and sat up shop in the D.C. Wasteland to find lost tech. Instead that branch of bos started to defend the locals which pissed off the bos outcasts.
Clayton Gunter think that was his point... if Lyons had heard, and could share the first elder’s original idea, ideals.. the original concept of the BoS
Regarding the game's "Appalachian Territory" - please remember that West Virginia has an actual HUGE underground emergency bunker as an apocalyptic retreat for approved military & selective political elites. Capable of housing 5,000 for up to 100 years, with every conceivable tool & resource necessary for rebuilding a "new world" when returning to the surface ~ "Briarwood" ~
There's not much history for either of them Diamond city) 50 years after the bombs fell people start to in a baseball stadium and set up a noodle stand set up a military and a mayor several decades later a synth appears and kills 14( I think) citizens before being killed this made the people of diamond city fearful of the institute several decades later piper moves in and one year later fallout 4 happens See not much Vault 101) sometime before 23 October 2077 vault 101 is made then the world ends no one ever leaves the vault untill around (10ish) years before fallout 3 At least 2 people go out one goes to mega ton and dies but at least he gets an armoured jumpsuit then fallout 3 happens Even less than before
I can't play Fallout 76 because I live remotely (bad net), but I've been a longtime fan and really love your videos! Hope you've considered doing audio books because you've got and awesome voice and you're def. a great storyteller. Thanks for making 76 available and can't wait for the next episode! (PS I personally think the player character was born in or at least primarily raised in 76 (usually looking younger by default). I wonder about the conflicting experiences of this scenario though; the born or too-young-to-remember kids who were raised on stories about the old world, vs. the older folks who lived in '77 era America. Especially considering the circumstances before the war. It would be really interesting to see how each might react to what they actually find on Reclamation Day.
That's the story I wrote for my character actually. 23 years old, born in the Vault and raised to survive the wasteland and rebuild. But she couldn't do it alone. With the coming of Foundation she finally has the chance to do that.
I think Captain Maxson was right. Imagine what he could have done if he could have contacted other Army units that survived and didn't join the Enclave. There could be Brotherhood in Canada, Alaska, or China.
I think they might be setting that up for future games.
There are Brotherhood in Alaska though, right?
@@user-bn1go7tu6c I don't know but that would make sense.
Canada would have quickly revolted and individually town declared independence as soon as bombs fell.
They wouldn't be Brotherhood per se but certainly other Army remnants had to survive right?
I like how Maxson is oblivious to the fact that being a Mailman in the Fallout universe gives you the power to kill everything and ruin entire factions in little under a week.
It's called being a Mary Sue for the Mailman. Never a fan of the Courier at one bit. I'd still go for OG Vault Dweller.
@@NurseAmamiya :
some milk drinker in a vault who magically saves an entire region with no life experience other than living the most sheltered life possible.
VS
a delivery guy who has to traverse across the deadly wastes and stay alive at all costs and has to/has had to do so his whole life.
The OG VD is a Mary Sue of the greatest kind. So if you’re arguing against a Mary Sue in the Mailman, your preferences contradict your argument.
@@jaybird0312 From your description the Courier sounds like the main character in the movie "Falling down as the "Mailman" is just trying to get on with his day people fuck his day up now he kills those people.
@@jaybird0312 well technically the vault dweller has military experience, unless you play as the female of course
@@jaybird0312 THEY ARE ALL MARY SUES CANT YOU SEE? FOR GOD'S SAKE BEING A MARY FUCKING MEANS YOU HAVE ALL THE ABILITIES ALL CHARACTER TRAITS THAT ARE GOOD ONLY GOOD ONES.
The fact scavengers stole stuff by joining the brotherhood explains quite well why the brotherhood we meet in Fallout 4 Makes you buy your equipment or earn it through missions.
yup. but i also dont think they would leave their soliders with nothing. youd get a fire arm and ammo and armor at the least. easily replaceable stuff though.
@@damienmitchell3104 well, to join the brotherhood I think you’d need to prove yourself in combat, which means you already have some stuff
@@damienmitchell3104 you get power armour once you become a Knight and you also get a small collection of supplies in your personal bed storage
@@baggieboydan82 yes after being knighted. which would normally take a lot of time. we were fast tracked because of danse vouching for our combat prowess as well as maxson most likely hearing about us killing kellog, a well known boogeyman of the commonwealth. so we earned it.
scavengers getting baseline supplies then fleeing would be all to common
@@damienmitchell3104 They do issue Gear. But only what's required.
30:34 "America Failed." *thunder crashes*
Seriously, how do you time these things, and why aren't you directing movies at this point?
lol we'll just call that a happy accident
@@oxhorn quoting Bob I see
@@oxhorn that's what my dad calls me
I think it was a nuke going off
AkodoKusamoto he’s been doing this aloooong time. Ox is a veteran of making videos. Timing is everything which is something he learned a long time ago as you can see haha
He ain't wrong. People need something to believe in or they loose all hope. No matter how hard it gets, as long as there is hope then there's always someone who will fight for it. It makes me look at The BOS in a new light.
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We're dogs, Diamond Dogs
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That tape speak to my core bones and he was right like you we need something to belive in... Fallout is so awesome
honestly i loved the elder maxson holotapes, it showed the brotherhoods true purpose and how they were led astray by different leaders.
Like his namestake arthur maxson, then again with the new steeldawn addon..they seem to be the same mindsey so who knows
And ironically John Maxon do feel like Roger to an extent.
I mean he is amiable and even deciding to stop the Supermutants and eventually helping local communities in contrast to more isolationist elders.
Elder Lyons is the closest thing we got to the brotherhoods truly original goal after roger
Ad Victoriam brother.
@@ShadowSearcher31 You are completely wrong.
Lyons neglected Technology in favour of helping people. Lyons was a fool and fought against mutants for 20 years and still didn’t win even though he had a lead where they were coming from and did not investigate.
Roger never would’ve neglected Technology for helping people.
20:42 when roger said “some general is going to walk out of a vault and start ordering us around” roger is right WE the player are that general and WE the player do start another wave of nuclear death in the main quest line
GOD BLESS THE ENCLAVE
Wow didn’t expect this comment to get highlighted lol
Yea but we only attain the rank of general and launch nukes to fix what the dumbass enclave did and to finish what the bos started.
In 76 we are only a Knight-arrent, not a general.
We only become a general in the Enclave in 76.
Even in F04, I don't think we ever become a general in the Brotherhood.
@@cosmicbillyI don’t think there is a general in the BOS however you were a general of the minutemen.
I may be wrong but the "75" in the "Thunder 75" logo means "75th Army Ranger Regiment" and not 2075.
Edit: In the war game orders it said that they were Army Rangers. Which belong to the 75th Ranger Regiment, which is the only Ranger regiment.
That makes sense, thanks for the correction!
Oxhorn, no problem.
The unit insignia is also a spin on the 75ths actual unit crest and they refer to they’re unit as a regiment and mention not having an airborne component, the 75th is one of the only army units who operate as a regiment and they’re also an airborne unit
I hear the choppers hovering their hovering overhead, they've come to get the wounded, but I jumped in instead. DIE DIE WHY WON'T YOU DIE, Rangers lead the way.
@South Side Comptown I don't know how many times I have heard "Rangers lead the way" , "Airborne", and "All the way". "Air assault" not as much. lol
Honestly this wasn't a bad story, since Scorhbeasts are such great threat they could continue this theme in Fallout 5. For example If Bethesda would choose Chicago they could properly reintroduce Enclave into franchise. Btw next video could be about Enclave and creation of Scorchbeasts.
No, the Enclave has been destroyed 3 separate times. Chicago area would more than likely be controlled by the midwest BOS from Fallout Tactics. Ceaser even said the legion ran into them when you talk to him in FONV. Sierra Bravos are just some unbelievable OP enemy made up by Bethesda so they didn't have to have NPCs. They should definitely stay in FO76.
The thing is defeated ≠ destroyed and as far as i remember nor F2 or F3 doesn't state that they are completely gone.
@Tagan Reaper I had thought Richardson said all of the Enclave were on the oil rig and at the base. How big could a covert criminal element of the prewar US government have been? So Bethesda wanted them in FO3 because they are cool and did a bad job of writing them in....OK, it worked... kind of. They need to stop though. The pre war US government and military is gone. The Enclave has been destroyed 6 ways from Sunday and any attempt by Bethesda to bring them back in force would be an assult on intelligent FO fans. What you see in FONV is what Enclave would look like. A few elderly people or their children with advanced PA Mk. II or Hellfire and a plasma rifle. A FEW ! A side story at most.
They are not on the moon or in Africa. They were a small group of disgusting government and corporate officials with brainwashed "yes men" as an army. They are dead and their cause was flawed and defeated....and a lie The remaining people don't even think the Enclave cause was just and would tell their children that the Enclave was evil.
Mike Brown I’m pretty sure the prewar government was all infiltrated by the future Enclave.
@ Space Marine Chaplin It's entirely possible, but you are talking about 545 house reps and senators. Most of the wheels that make government turn are regular people who think the government is good. If those tens of thousands of people find out the people at the top are not good, there is a good chance that there will be problems. So, the covert criminal element of the government and corporations would have to kind of keep it under raps which would limit their over all numbers in the future. Plus, they don't want anything to do with mutated people post-war, so there is no way for them to grow that large again.. All the brainwashed troopers they had were killed in the west by NCR and BOS, killed by BOS on the east coast twice, are elderly or have died of old age. We see in FONV that the former Enclave are not even considering trying carry the torch. They were pee-ons and some of them didn't like what the Enclave was doing anyway.
It's kind of like the Nazi Germans making a comeback. They had one crack at doing what ever it is they were trying to do, but were destroyed and will never come back in force as the Third Riech. Some got away. Hell, Hitler may have even got away. People know about them though, know they were a flawed idea and they could never gain the support needed to be any kind of actual threat as the same grey coats and Nazi flag.
Enclave- "a portion of territory within or surrounded by a larger territory whose inhabitants are culturally or ethnically distinct. " So, the very definition of "Enclave" means it is something small inside of something much larger and different than itself. As Alex Jones would put it "A small covert, criminal element inside the US government." They are dead and the gig is up. Everyone knows they are evil. They tried to kill everyone... twice!
Putting together diverse lore from so many locations is quite an accomplishment! I never found the cave that started the story either. Amazing work, really enjoyed this video, one of my favorites so far from fo76 😄
I live right next to the lake, im gonna have to go and explore
And this is why I love his lore videos more them his live cast. Mabe his lives are more lively but HERE is where he put hard work.
Well, Bethesda did a really good job writing the BOS into West Virgina. All of this is totally legit. Good vid...
Sadly the people who create this... i dont think they put in charge of Main Story..
Imagine how story mode would be good
Although they still shouldn’t be here for another hundred years or so...Maxson using a satellite is just a lazy excuse for world “building”
@TRISTAN KAHL tech is kind retro because they dont use chips so they focus mostly on nuclear energy so powerarmor was very very important because of radiation.
Chip stuff was kind great thing if you think about it..
The lore is fantastic the way we play through the lore though is kinda yeesh yaknow
I wrote/edited most Fallout 76 brotherhood articles on Wikia and I still missed few things =) great work
No one cares
Za’ab-Ya’oh Ban Ya’ohsharal no need to be so bloody rude to him, the hell is wrong with you
@@RandomHQ433 what's wrong with him is his parents for not educating him correctly.
Za’ab-Ya’oh Ban Ya’ohsharal lmfao the disrespect
@@zaab-yaoh9302 evidently you do
"keep out signs, Biological meterial, DEAD END, *_StOp_* "
He got window update on voice
I believe the "75" on the insignia is supposed to represent the 75th Ranger Regiment of the US Army Special Operations Command. The thunderbolt on the insignia makes it reminiscent of the real life one as well.
What are we supposed to call you “Elder?”
Roger Maxson: hmmmmm. Yeah
Me: im tired I think I'm gonna go to sleep
Oxhorn: Wait up a second I got another awesome vid for you
Story of my life
Mommy can I stay up for one more hour to watch oxhorn’s video
Its 3:27 AM
45 minutes later... There's another lore vid about a concept that branches off of the video. Oh well I'll guess I'll watch that too
When oxhorn looks at that cave as lore, others see it as another lead farm for ammo
It can be both. :D
Thought it was just me screaming “take the damn cans man!!!”
Im sorry Ox, but to this day I imagine a Tauren guiding me through the fallout world, it's a great mental image haha
Tauren in power armor with a shotgun.
You gratting blit now ill never get that image out of my head when i listen to his lore videos
I can see Ox as a Tauren
@@KK-qm1mr Do we have fan art of that? I want to see that.
What is a tauren?
Man, those holotapes and notes that give you a small insight into what happend allways give me goosebumps. Overarching storyline or not but those "sniplets" are something Beth has done astonishingly well in all of the fallout games.
You think you missed the holotape called "the nuclear option" at Taggerdy's Quarters!" It's a great conversation between Taggerdy and Roger and definitely adds to the story.
that particular line about squires always bugged me.
Squires were young adults, of fighting and marriage age, but still in training.
Pages were the kids.
Didnt know that thanks, makes sense that the BOS soldiers wouldn't know that tho because it's not common knowledge obviously
last time i was this early van buren was still fallout 3
Wow
What were your thoughts on the Van Buren documents?
@@voidghost4933 Gay
Etu Bokshi Ope found the possible Bethesda fanboy and false Fallout fan?
My God. This was so f*ckin' sad! The entirety of it! I remember when I was young and just vaguely understanding fallout 1 & 2 and as this entire story plays out I just keep thinking back. About how mysterious the BoS seemed then and how the graphics and art of that time made me feel. It was like that pixley style was part of the lore. It made the games atmosphere. It makes me feel so sad to think how long ago it was that this happened and went down (in the story). I so wish to see how this story all played out. It would be so amazing and sad! This was really intense and sad to sit through but what made me get all teary-eyed was the last few seconds of you fighting the Bravos at one of the sites without saying anything and that sorrowful music playing... All I could think of was what their last thoughts must have been seeing all those SB's. The final moments for each member and how this was, in a sense, at the beginning of the entire fallout franchise.. I wish there were survivors... :'''(
you will not be forgotten brothers and sisters of appalachia.
AD VICTORIAM.
Arthur Maxson isn’t it Ad Victorian?
Sywoc nope
Ad Victoriam
Sywoc WRONG!!! Disliked, not funny didn’t laugh.
Arthur Maxson AD VICTORIAM!
I just want to add my thanks in addition to all the others doing the same. This was a fantastic video. It is interesting to learn that Elder R. Maxson was not happy about the isolationist stance his successors implemented. I was always under the impression that that had been B.O.S. S.O.P. from the organization's earliest days.
Whats the s.o.p if you don't mind if I ask
@@toasteyboi345 Standard Operating Procedure
@@6killersfear4 thx man
@@toasteyboi345 no problem
FO76 has really redeemed itself with the BOS lore - a great link to Mariposa + Maxson in FO1. I wish the other factions had the same depth of storyline in the game, especially the Free States. I'm not paying for Free States vending machines or other gimmicks.
The free states has a ton of lore if you feel like spending days hunting it all down.
A lot of the factions are localised. The ones that are present in multiple areas are generally antagonistic; like the Enclave.
The Brotherhood is certainly more of a mixed bag. Their condemnation of Ghouls and their tendency to fall into zealotry & autocracy is their bad side. They do have a better side; putting down Ferals and hostile super-mutants, saving tech. They are complex, which makes them useful for stories.
The Railroad is too focused, the NCR is tied to it's territory, the Legion is barely above a raider army, the Minutemen are localised is too weak until you build it up (and is tied to the Commonwealth), the Insitute & the Enclave are explicitly intended to be evil...
The Brotherhood can be good or bad depending on their leadership's position.
When most people hear that Fallout 76 has the Brotherhood of Steel they get up in arms about 'Bethesda lore breaking' the series. When I first discovered the cave where the Thunder were when the bombs dropped, it totally changed the way I thought about the BOS in FO76. I thought it was amazing and well incorporated . It is just sad that this rich piece of lore is so hidden away (it was almost the last place I found on the whole map). I think you have done a superb job at bringing this very interesting story to light. One of the best stories of Fallout 76, most definitely.
Interesting the BOS here sounds more closely related to Elder Lions of FO3 then the other versions.
Yeti Smith when the collection of technology is put second, great things were accomplished.
I think it was more a natural reaction, the strong protecting the weak, as a military ethos. It wasn’t until more rigid orders came down that the local BoS chapter became less engaged with the other factions.
That's how the brotherhood started. Only a little smarter. Training people in how to use valuable tech while keeping dangerous pieces away from others. Protecting the people. Like a technologically advanced minutemen almost.
But as Brootherhood that idea fall into protect humanity from themself...
@@razofdead over time yes.
Does anyone else listen the Oxhorn's Fallout lore when playing Fallout 76?
No, because Fallout 76 sucks.
Yes but I visit the exact areas and pause in between the trips
@@elh954 your really mad about something to waste 4 seconds of your life to let everybody know that you hate a videogame and expect anyone to care
@@fredrichreisinger2543 u mad bro?
@@theginjaninja132 nah but thanks for asking, just informing him
FIGHT TO LAST BREATH, TO THE LAST DROP OF BLOOD, THE LAST ROUND, FIGHT TO SAVE THOSE YOU CAN.
"Say a prayer to those left behind".
I know it's implied that everyone died, but I have a headcanon now that the proud Army Ranger who thought about going west survived everything, went west, and became a Desert Ranger. Not likely with all the doom and gloom, but hey I can dream.
Although the writer was one of the original Thunders, weren't they? And there were only two left or were their bodies found? So, likely not?
Love the video, Ox! Been hoping for a BoS video.
That's awesome
Also, in the new DLC some more Brotherhood troops are coming to reconnect with this remnant. Hopefully they retake the Wasteland, once and for all...
Well the letter at 1:04:44 says that one guy disappeared out on patrol and never came back, so there’s hope
I actually have to give it to Bethesda on this one.
They did an amazing job writing out the story of the Appalachian Brotherhood.
Doesn’t redeem them/diminish what a shitshow attempt at a cash grab that FO76 was.
Good idea (lore wise)
Bad execution (development wise)
I wonder if Grant McNamara is related to Elder McNamara of the Western Brotherhood in Fallout: New Vegas. 🤔 Maybe his great great grandfather or something...
I've also wondered about Gwen McNamara of Vault 81 and former Secretary of Defense (real world) Robert McNamara. I'm NOT wondering if they're all supposed to be related to one another. Just one pair or another.
@@KK-qm1mr McNamara seems to be a common surname throughout the series. Makes me wonder if it's a dev signature or something.
I wonder if Roger Maxson and Arthur Maxson are related
@@samhenshaw4962 Yes. Arthur is Roger's last living descendant as of the year 2287, 210 years after Roger founded the Brotherhood.
No one ever calls him that, but Arthur Maxson is Maxson V. (The Fifth, not the letter "V.")
I live in West Virginia and they have most definitely not came here lol
TheReaper lucky
Death Trooper trust me it’s not as good as it sounds. But I will brag my mom and other family live about 2 miles away from Camden park
TheReaper how do you like the locations in the game, similar to real life in any ways?
TheReaper ... Charleston area here
Was your mum made up when you married her daughter 😂😂😂
1:13:54 oxhorn sterilizing a scorched beast
Oh, this is one video that I have been waiting for, thank you so much for posting it.
Oxhorn that was an EXCELLENT video. Thanks for the dedication to exploring and finding all the lore! So many things I miss in my play thoughs.
Shadowkeep 😍
Takes a certain amount of dedication to even bother with 76, tbh...
Dang Ox. I've played this mission through, read all the terminals, an notes. But watching this episode breaks my heart, the ignorance, but fortitude these soldiers had is crazy. Almost feels like a real part of our history. Loved it.
"In the new ashes of the old world" that deserves to go on a t-shirt.
People who pick the brotherhood of steel in fallout 4 profusely sweating
Who doesn't like blowing them out of the sky with artillery?
*FIRE FOR EFFECT*
@@3DNETWORK I don't I went with them I'm my only playthrough
@@robertmitchell9559 If only Maxson hadn't been such a doofus. I mean come on, they get defeated by tato farmers and ancient artillery.
Its comedic gold!
the brotherhood of steel were the first fachion that I found so I joined them I liked paladin danse so I decide to join em
Robert Mitchell fallout 76
U have 76 likes
Oxhorn:
Time for another awesome vid
The "West Virginia Brotherhood" sounds like a frat group in my honest opinon.
In my opinion army is like frat Group with arms..
Sounds like grouo of skin heads to me.
I feel sorry for Maxson, his dream was a good one, one where people should be able to get along and treat everyone fairly, but over time and some bad eggs, it became rotten. Instead of a symbol of hope as he liked, it became one of fear and hatred you could say. As the Brotherhood took things from people from, killing those who were different and stood in their way, just like the Raiders. It really is a shame. Sure to some they were hope, but for those who were fighting to stay alive for another day, they were just like another Raider Group, taking things that don't belong to them by force.
Kind of reminds me of how Deacon, an individual from the Capital Wasteland who ran with a group he called the Deathclaws who never existed turned rotten and he left them. A guy who had visited Little Lamp Light and knew MacCready, who had been at the Iron Citadel and knew Maxson as a squire. Who mentioned growing up in a vault and had knowledge of prewar literature.
I agree.
@Alen So, people don't fear the Brotherhood? It was Maxson's hopes and dream to make a better place for the future, but instead, because of certain events and actions of others, whilst some people see them as hope, others fear them because they act like raiders instead of people meant to protect as Manson hoped for? We have seen many of their actions that leads us to see them like raiders, taking food and such by force.
@Alen I might deny it, but I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Even Oxhorn who says that whilst he likes the Brotherhood, he even sees them like raiders at times. If you have other thoughts I would like to hear them, as I'm writing a fanfiction story and so want to hear both sides to help me to write it.
As they say, each side has their own story, and I would like to hear your side of this.
And I don't think the Brotherhood of Steel didn't found Flex Tape™ here.
The whole BoS story and also the story of the Responders, makes me so sad. I get really emotional, when I listen to their Holotapes and read their stories. Like the Survivor stories you first find, when you head into Flatwoods. Or the story of the Fire Breathers...
Bethesda is great about creating a living, breathing, open world, with all the stories left behind by those who tried to make the world a better place, but failed. :(
I can't wait for the BoS to return to Appalachia this Fall!!
I adore the brotherhood in 76
It’s arguably the best Bethesda did at fleshing out the brotherhood aside from fallout 4
The idea of an early more public brotherhood was a very interesting concept that I feel they did well
Even if we didn’t get to properly witness it.
FinestCacophony I agree! The brotherhood in 76 is so well written
As much as I like how they're fleshed out, their entire existence is lore-breaking
The CMM I completely get that argument tbh
I like to just write it off as ‘oh well it’s not impossible. It just wasn’t a focus’
But I completely get why people don’t like it.
Hell I didn’t when they were announced.
But I suppose retcons are inevitable when it comes to Bethesda
As unfortunate as it is.
@@thecmm4602I don't see how that's true to be honest.
So, the Appalachia BoS were once the members of a US ranger squad? I'm sad that they all might be dead, since the rangers are elite. 😢
Willyam Jordan
Don’t forget about the marines, rah
@@christianmandarino2851 Yeah, the USMC are good too. But it's also sad that there's no Delta Force.
Not as elite as the enclave 😁🇱🇷
Advictorim brothers and sisters
@BrianConqueror80 The Underwater Demolition Teams UDT started in WWII were the Navy Seals and were turned into the Navy Seals. UDTs complete with skydiving frogmen saw action in WWII and Korea. Any of these pre Navy Seal UDTs are considered Navy Seals. Don't ever think that no one would be greedy or corrupt without oil. The people that really run shit in the world will take us on anything. There was oil in FO world. They didn't go full nuclear until after 2050 because oil was starting to run out. So that is over 100 years after WWII that they were running on oil.
What ever resourses or rare earth minerals there are that everyone needs or wants, you can be sure that people will want to control, steal and profit off of them so they are rich well beyond imagination.
Who ever has you believing that oil is this root of all evil probably owns massive shares in the nuclear or renewable resourse industry or both. Probably the same people with the most shares in the oil corporations.
Also, not every single thing with the time split is set in stone, this is why Bethesda will only say "WWII happened," because they don't want to lock themselves down to things like ...There was no Delta, Green Berets or Navy Seals among a million other things. 50s culture
Thank you for getting the whole story. Finally almost able to explore The Mire and Cranberry Bog. Level 61.
You waited till 61 to explore that part of the map? Why?
Watching your Fallout lore videos makes me feel like I have my own personal tour guide to every game. So many things I would have completely missed across games from Fallout 3 to 76. Thank you for all your hard work. Can't wait for another.
One of the best stories about the brotherhood so far
this was honestly one of the best time i had in 76 hearing from and discovering maxons story was very well done nice job man!
Wow. I did all the main quest but this help me out to settle the backgound of the game. 👊
It's been quite a while since I've watched any of your videos, but by God do they get me excited about all the lore that still exists! Make me want to play all the games again!
imagine how pale the arm where the pip boy sits is in fallout 3
Vault 76 Troglodyte: **Dances like a tribal seeing a vertibird for the first time upon seeing oxhorn.**
Oxhorn: **Pointedly averts gaze**
Oxhorn's the hero your self respect and dignity needs.
Hey Ox, not sure if this comment will reach you but there are some important hollotapes that were missing in this great video! Some final logs between Taggerdy and Maxon about launching nukes at the SBs! They are very interesting
This will all come full circle once he covers the enclave. Good shit 🔥🔥
Only recently found Taggerdy's cave. After hearing her story. I am curious. Before Maxson was cut off, was he about to say he loved her or something else. I know he had a wife and son, but we don't know how close these two were. 51:12
This is rhe earliest oxhorn video I've ever gotten to lol
got to love it! hardened solders can not take down these monsters but a few random jerks from a literal hole in the wall do it on the norm with rusty guns and golf clubs
This was the epic story of the Brotherhood in Appalachia I’ve been waiting for. With all its far flung lore, I wasn’t sure how Ox was going to pull it off. But he managed it! Imagine how different it would have been had the Responders, Fr͏e͏e States, and Brotherhood formed a war council to combat the scorched. But alas, they did not.
It’ll be interesting to see if this faction gets reintroduced with Wastelanders. Maybe a BoS deserter comes back, after the scorched threat has settled. Maybe there are other BoS secrets in the area to unlock. Maybe a separate group went dark to provide a continuity contingency. All I know is I keep doing the Forbidden Knowledge quest so I can try and get the higher end BoS T-60 paint scheme. I’m currently stuck on BoS Knight.
Wow you were spot on predicting a brotherhood of steel fallout 76 dlc
I still wish the Brotherhood, Responders, Free States and the raiders had been npcs from the beginning. But I'll gratefully take the settlers and raiders.
22:23
NOT THE GODDAMN COUR- I mean mailman
Anything but mailman
Eas looking for this
Ox, awesome work as always. I would never have found the cave at the start, so looking forward to a trip to the Divide in the next few days. Quick suggestion: it would be really cool if you could do a timeline video of major events in appalachia prior to the opening of Vault 76. I think a lot of players know some of the major points, but don't have a holistic picture of how the events are tied up. How all these parallel groups (Responders, BoS, Raiders, FS, Enclave) all emerge from the Ashes of nuclear Armageddon to how they all meet their demise one by one. Would complement the individual faction videos nicely. :)
ill admit: ive never been a fan of the BOS. in fallout 4 i always play against them. but this background on them made me full on cry. thank you for telling their story and shedding light.
They were the good guys once.....once
I was wondering why the brotherhood were in West virginia.
Dense
@Little Oggie isn't isn't making a good story creative?
@Little Oggie lol u idiot
@@dadshirt6681 yeah. Bricks is just dense clay of you think about it.
Woah now man let's keep it clean
24:56 HOLD UP...... i recognice that voice, its Liam O'Brian :D
Caleb! Vax! War!!
I was wondering if anybody else noticed lol. Wondering if the "Poobah" line was a coincidence or a crit role reference.
DAGGER DAGGER DAGGER
Sam is also in the game, Victor, a kid on a rooftop in Morgantown near VTU that wants to go to space.
I seriously love the Fallout series so much and i was so sad when I heard everyone talking trash about Fallout 76. But seeing you play it and hearing about all of the lore has made me feel confident enough to get it. Im glad theres still people out there who like Fallout 76 because while it may have its faults i still think it's a overall good game :).
I always found it really weird that the brotherhood of steel only used vertibirds instead of repairing the hundreds of tanks and APCs scattered over all the games
Well Vertibirds are more applicables cause roads would be blocked and destroyed and its much faster
You get to use armored vehicles including a tank in fallout: tactics
Yes it’s here!!!!!!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
Also more people need to see ox’s videos because people complain that 76 ruined lore but they need to get on this channel and learn a thing or two
I’m guessing the only other fallout you’ve played was 4....
There is definitely lore in 76. It’s harder to absorb though, since much of it is geographically spread apart. It makes you work for it. I remember talking with a friend a few months back about how the BoS lore didn’t make sense. He didn’t understand the timelines of the games, and how W VA fit in. It’s really a beautifully tragic tale of the BoS chapter in Appalachia.
British_Imperialism nope I’ve played them all dude
@@daniel7767 I have played all of them and even a few by obsidian. 76 didnt ruin the lore at all. If anything it built on it. The lore is not spoon fed. You have to make a effort. Alot of the holotapes I have found and notes are tragic and paint vivid pictures of what happened. Anyone who thinks there is no lore hasent played the game. Anyone who thinks it "ruined" fallout needs to watch some of oxs videos. Anyone who still hates it can play something els.
British_Imperialism you’re an idiot.
Finally! You made my weekend, Oxhorn!
Right around 30:50 you can definitely hear the Arthur Maxon style speech...
After watching this, I love Roger Maxson as a character. He might be disappointed if he could see what became of the Brotherhood of Steel in other games (im looking at you, New Vegas)
Now this is how you start a good Saturday
Do you think you could do something like The Elder Scrolls series eventually?
Tamashi fingers crossed
Elder Lyons, Elder scrolls, Its just everything old names.
As far as I know, Ox doesn't play TES.
There us way to much lore. I've seen a few channels that tackle it.
With what I can tell is almost 3000 years, leading into what is I think the 4th era(Skyrim).
Then you add in ESO..
You get into Scanners head explosion.
He's said that he won't as he's not interested
Imagine how amazing this game would be if you actually played through these moments instead of just reading about them.
You couldnt play as a vault dweller if that was the case.
Not with how much I absolutely can't stand multiplayer games. Unless they managed to make a non pvp world for 76 (last time I tried was right after release), this is infinitely more enjoyable
@@Captainpepper I was implying that it would be a regular fallout game, being singleplayer, and not this weird holotape only quest system.
@@ArtifactADU well, the fact that this game is 25 years after the nuclear bombs dropped, it would be out of place to have a lot of people this close to the bombs. Population would need time to rebuild. It would be ridiculous to have a population level like Fallout 4 this early in the apocalypse
@@jvazacas The holotapes exist, which means the people were there and those things happened. My argument was that it would be way better gameplay to play through those things that we know happened, instead of just hearing about it through holotapes.
Brotherhood Vid my fave faction and its my birthday it was ment to be thnx for the prez Ox!!
Ajax Lynx happy birthday boss
Happy birthday
Happy birthday!
Love the way you explain and express the lore in fallout... #1 Chanel for all Fallout needs
This video helps me understand the BoS a bit more. Just enough more to hold a new perspective of them across all the games, especially Fo4. Their cause seems a little less arrogant now, although they themselves don't understand the full extent of their goals, I now do. This greatly helps with roleplay factor as I won't have sympathy for any "abominations" while being a member of the BoS. This also greatly helps solidify the fact the default Sole Survivor Nate would join the BoS due to his Pre-war Army experience, and default Nora as Rail Road due to her background as a lawyer and fighting for equal rights, definitely seeing the humanity in a synth. Great video, and a definite help personally.
I completely agree.
I like to think the canonical ending to Fallout 4 is the BoS victory over the Institute, with the Sole Survivor becoming a Sentinel. It feels like because of the male Sole Survivor’s military background, and his desire to return things to the way they were Pre-war (even tho he knows that he can’t truly do that because War... War never changes) as well as the vision of the BoS appealing to his nature as a human being. He wants to preserve the world that he lost, and make sure things don’t go down hill again, the way they did. He understands some of the immorality of the BoS, but his viewpoint of them isn’t swayed by it. This is because of the Brotherhood’s duty to citizens of the Wasteland as their protection and defense against all threats. They kill Super Mutants, Feral Ghouls, Synths (that serve as a hinderance to the people of the Wasteland, like the Institute. They understand just what’s at stake to leave a free-willing machine alive.), Raiders, and anyone or anything that could prove to be a danger. The Sole Survivor understands the gravity of the situation, so he knows the justification of killing some Synths that while may not be a known danger, they definitely present a severe security risk for everyone. These ideals coincide with the preservation of technology. The Sole Survivor knows that the technology of the Wasteland must be taken into good hands, for the better. The cleansing of the Wasteland is justified. All of this gives him pride in what he does as he lives in this Wasteland, knowing that the military force he affiliates with holds true to the Justice and Liberty of the Wasteland. The ideals of the Brotherhood of Steel guide him to be a true soldier of Righteous Authority. For the greater good. Ad Victoriam!
In my book, I think Nate would no doubt for the Enclave more...
@@NurseAmamiya why
It's so crazy to say that I found ur channel when you were at 12k subs and now damn ox you've made it.
Man, i wish that i had seen those survivors Roger Maxson talked about..
This is why i watch your videos. You do all the research and get me back into games that i grew up playing over and over. Brotherhood for life, and as our friend three dog would say, keep fighting the good fight kid
You’d think the army would have a better nuclear war contingent then “ask your superior what to do” lol
Not for the ground level troops, nope. It is assumed there will always be an overall chain of command to find and report to.
That’s our contingent for everything 😂
Not really. As long as soldiers understand their commander’s intent they can act independently.
Paladin Taggerdy reminds me of Janeway. Someone with a load to bear, but who deeply cares about her people and the people she wants to save.
Note: I have not watched to the end, so if she goes bananas, and kills like a raider base full of kids, I don’t know that yet.
"Don't push me
cuz im-
2 clicks from the edge"
I found interesting how Maxson and Caesar are really similar in the way they see a faction should work and that they work for something greater than themselves, they even refer to the Roman Empire in a point.
Love your voice. Love that you did a story on brotherhood as well.
Another awesome video! I blame Paladin Elizabeth Taggerdy for the fall of BoS in Appalachia, it was a direct result of her decisions. Also, has anyone noticed that "Taggerdy" and "Tragedy " is basically just an anagram, taking into account they needed to add another "g?" I believe that this was intentional, and is further shown by the terminal entry shown at 18:38. Taggerdy is used directly above the word tragedy, clearly a veiled reference to her future decisions.
Imagine if Bethesda left all these characters alive, we would've finally witness history
Yeah this game could have been so much better if all the factions were alive. Even wastelanders was an inferior story.
I went through all the trouble to join the BoS and missed so much of this lore. It was a major pain in the ass and the last thing I did. This video is great.
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I love your videos of fallout lore Mr. Oxhorn I seriously watch them all even while being at work
I wonder if any members of the Brotherhood or the other factions managed to survive long enough to evacuate Appalachia.
Your Fallout Lore videos are the best! Oxhorn!
My two friends,Velvet Remedy & Calamity absolutely love it
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Grant McNamara, Fort Defiance, BoS: Appalachia.
Overseer Gwen McNamara, Vault 81, Commonwealth.
Coincidence, just a common name, or something more?
@Dancing Deity Hmmm
Wasnt Lyons first scribe Rotchild Like those bank owners???
I’m guessing Gwen McNamara was born in Vault 81 so Grant mostly likely isn’t her parents or grandparents but Grant could possibly be a direct descendant.
This is one of the most emotional stories there is this whole world is sad and its dying but to hear how they tried to help everyone and the odds just overwhelmed them its heartbreaking..
Only if Elder Lyons knew about the West Virginia Brotherhood
Elder Lyon's trip to the east happened about 200 year later !, as West Virginia Brotherhood had dispeared 25 years after the war, i think that they didn't had any news frow West Virginia since 150 years at least!
Only if Elder Lyons gained access to that holotape where Roger Maxson complains about the isolationism infesting his followers! He could have used that to shame the Outcasts into rejoining.
Originally elder Lyons came from the West coast and sat up shop in the D.C. Wasteland to find lost tech. Instead that branch of bos started to defend the locals which pissed off the bos outcasts.
Clayton Gunter and the Elders out west.
Clayton Gunter think that was his point... if Lyons had heard, and could share the first elder’s original idea, ideals.. the original concept of the BoS
Can I just say Oxhorn I love your narrating skills you have a gift especially how you bring amusement even in narrating.
Regarding the game's "Appalachian Territory" - please remember that West Virginia has an actual HUGE underground emergency bunker as an apocalyptic retreat for approved military & selective political elites. Capable of housing 5,000 for up to 100 years, with every conceivable tool & resource necessary for rebuilding a "new world" when returning to the surface ~ "Briarwood" ~
i just love your style of reviewing these parts of lore and stories. Keep it up Ox !
Can you do a video on the history of diamond city or the story of vault 101
There's not much history for either of them
Diamond city) 50 years after the bombs fell people start to in a baseball stadium and set up a noodle stand set up a military and a mayor several decades later a synth appears and kills 14( I think) citizens before being killed this made the people of diamond city fearful of the institute several decades later piper moves in and one year later fallout 4 happens
See not much
Vault 101) sometime before 23 October 2077 vault 101 is made then the world ends no one ever leaves the vault untill around (10ish) years before fallout 3 At least 2 people go out one goes to mega ton and dies but at least he gets an armoured jumpsuit then fallout 3 happens
Even less than before
He made a ton of videos exploring diamond city. He also made some videos about 101.
kroolandwart maybe a video on mayor McDonough
@@nathankeys195 again not much there but his video on Hancock explored him as well
I can't play Fallout 76 because I live remotely (bad net), but I've been a longtime fan and really love your videos! Hope you've considered doing audio books because you've got and awesome voice and you're def. a great storyteller. Thanks for making 76 available and can't wait for the next episode! (PS I personally think the player character was born in or at least primarily raised in 76 (usually looking younger by default). I wonder about the conflicting experiences of this scenario though; the born or too-young-to-remember kids who were raised on stories about the old world, vs. the older folks who lived in '77 era America. Especially considering the circumstances before the war. It would be really interesting to see how each might react to what they actually find on Reclamation Day.
That's the story I wrote for my character actually. 23 years old, born in the Vault and raised to survive the wasteland and rebuild. But she couldn't do it alone. With the coming of Foundation she finally has the chance to do that.