As a recovering heroine addict. Often struggling with depression and constantly pitying myself. Jordan is a breath of fresh air. This guy has done what 1 year of rehab. 3 different therapist and antidepressants couldnt do. Feeling emotional while i write this. But in a good way. Hope one day i can meet you and tell you how much you have helped me. Thank you Dr. Peterson.
Congrats on your recovery. As someone who deals with medical issues and has been handed over to a life of constant prescription meds I seriously envy you and want to say you’re amazing for doing the near impossible. I hope you keep up the amazing lifestyle change!
Wow you’re such blessed person to hear what he is saying and to live it. To do the work!!!! I wish you even more success in life. My brother recently died young (55) young to me. He suffered with addiction for forty years. Prayers for you. Happy for you also.
As a 29 year old guy about to turn 30 and is really for the first on his own and having to make changes, listening to JP has been super helpful. Im so glad im hearing some of this stuff now.
This is the same for me. Discovered him when I was 25, now 29. Along with becoming more religious, he had a tremending impact on my outlook on life. He determined me to embrace challenges and responsibilities in order to find meaning and fulfillment. Many of us share the same kind of story, it's crazy. Best of luck out there !
You just described my exact situation. I turn 30 in two days and just moved into my own house without a partner for the first time and have just recently found Jordan's videos. Amazing
Genuinely can't see how this guy is painted as a bad guy. He is literally just saying that you should work hard, have order in your life, and take care of your family. Love what I heard in this episode.
Simple. Lazy losers, with family traumas and that dont like order (but somehow would love to censor everything they dont like, which pretty much authoritarian) . Sjw in a nutshell , just the 21st century manifestation of human stupidity
To anybody who's reading this, I pray that whatever is hurting you or whatever you are constantly stressing about gets better. May the dark thoughts, the overthinking, and the doubt exit your mind. May clarity replace confusion. May peace and calmness fill your life. 🙏
This man saved my life. I was on the brink of suicide, but he gave me a genuine reason to put up with the pain so I may have an actual future. Thank you sir.
I lost my 23 year old son to suicide 3 years ago. Please do not lose hope. Things can always get better and they do. I would give anything to have my son back. God loves you. Blessings
"You can’t truly call yourself “peaceful” unless you are capable of great violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful, you’re harmless." Edit: Damn, I was not expecting this kind of "publicity" from a quote. Thanks for the upvotes guys and gals.
@@jeffblowpezlopez4122 No. You are misunderstanding what the quote means. You have to be capable of violence in order to have the capability of being peaceful. If you lack the capability to be violent then you're literally harmless because you lack the capability to be violent. To be peaceful is a conscious choice. To be harmless means you don't have a choice. School shooters are psychotic people who lack the capability of self control and are violent because they commit violence without a reasonable and just cause.
@Timothy Mccarthy does this help ? Fyodor Dostoevsky - Demons (aka The Possessed aka The Devils) Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago George Orwell - The Road to Wigan Pier Jordan Peterson - 12 Rules for Life Jordan Peterson -Maps of Meaning
I love Joe Rogan.. and Jordan Peterson.. plus Joe Rogan is the best listener and observationalist. I’m 60 years old - I have lived 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, y2k, 2010’s, 2020’s. They both give me hope!
I love that Joe Rogan lets him talk, and doesn’t interrupt Peterson’s train of thought. And he responds appropriately and cogently, and asks the questions a reasonable person would ask to gain clarity. So refreshing.
1:37:27 pointless 3 min interruption about Jordan’s use of the word monster to describe people in a positive and negative way. Hate when he feels like he needs try to feel a little smarter than someone a thousand times more brilliant than him. But I get what you mean.
@@mikecampbell4890 personally I don’t think it was pointless at all. It’s for sure very confusing when a word has directly opposite meanings. He was kind of trying to help Jordan realise that although “monster” has clear meaning for him and many others for many people it can be very difficult to see being a monster as a good thing.
@@samueltate3549 I think if someone’s intelligent enough to want listen to Jordan speak then they are probably intelligent enough to know what Jordan means. I think a child would get it. If not then god help them. Joe is basically insisting he use a different word, by that standard Joe would need to rephrase himself all the time.
@@mikecampbell4890 but it’s the connotations behind the word “monster” that he had a problem with. Not because he personally thought that Jordan wanted people to be cruel to their family but because he feels that the word monster could be used against Jordan.
I'm on of the thousands of people who was lucky enough to find Jordan peterson lectures when I was 17-18. Literally saved me from falling further into a self destructive spiral that was so close to lashing out on the very few people I had left. It's amazing how much even a 10 minute video of his affected me for the better.
Michael, You ARE truly Lucky and Blessed!🙏 ALL of us who are older are envious. DO NOT waste this amazing gift which has been bestowed on you. ... ntm you have a great last name😄
That difference is undeniably the gap between you being on your own personal island of neo-narcissism demanding people change language to benefit you and worship your success- much like the post-modern SJWs do- and you using your success to help others, like a classic liberal of the left might. Interesting differences and nuances between the Lefties, eh?
Lost 40kg (about 1/3 of my weight), stoped doing drugs and get my life straight. I believe Peterson will change the world in the coming years like he changed my life. God bless him. Edit: What helped me most with quit drugs was taking responsibility. If you doing something meaningful, you do not need drugs. God bless you all guys
Wow, nice dude! I lost 35 lbs since this profile photo but God do I need the drugs. Haha. I need those drugs I take man! 😅 Good for you though, seriously. ✊ solidarity bro.
@@jh7589 Adderall & Percocet are the ones people would worry about unnecessarily on my behalf, the weed's recreational and the one I REALLY can't do without is the Wellbutrin. These are all prescribed though and I've been taking em for a decade. Haven't rabbit holed or spiraled out of control. Some folks can take what's prescribed and it doesn't take over their life I guess. I got bigger problems than drugs, drugs help. 🤷♂️ That's just me though. Individual experiences may vary and I reaaaally dont judge.
@@WhitneyHaverstock I just smoke weed daily. If I don't I go crazy. Can't sleep. I do t think it runs my life though. I still go to work etc.i think I am lazY because of it though
Wouldnt preparedness mean you can be a warrior in war and a gardener in the garden? Shouldnt you have the wherewithal to use the proper “hat” for the proper situation?
Bodan McGraw My interpretation was to always be a warrior because you might have trouble “gardening” but if a fight comes youre ready. Whereas if you are always a “gardener” you are useful at peace time but utterly useless when its time to fight.
He is a rare voice of reason. I don't agree with everything he's ever said, but I know that he argues in good faith and he always tries very hard to appeal to reason and sympathize with his detractors. And for that, I love him.
1:07:50 you should be a monster 1:08:44 Learn how to lose 1:09:52 A winner is Someone who never let losing stop them 1:10:30 embrace loses as learning experiences 1:11:06 Go back and do the research and hard work to learn from the pain of losing
100% YES! We need people like him (either side people!) Discussion of ideas on EITHER side is so needed without getting fucking butt-hurt and involving feelings. This is how we advance! Fuck the "teams", fuck your ego, lets figure shit out!
@@Myhok high levels of anxiety, following his wife being diagnosed for cancer (she recovered), Peterson took benzodiazepines as prescribed but it turns out that taking them for more than 2 weeks produces unbelievable addiction and he was basically in a very bad state for several months, they had to take him to Russia and Serbia (where he still is now probably) for experimental treatments, both of which worked. Check out his channel for an update
MrFoolsDays - my thoughts exactly. It's amazing getting this level of access to a great psychologist that I could never get in real life. Good luck mate.
I’m with you there bud, recently divorced too and 27. I bought this mans book just because I wanted to support him after the 1000s of hours of free education and therapy.
What a brilliant interview, Jordan has given young men like myself a healthy dose of reality. A way forward of becoming a better person, not only for the self but for your close company. Thank you Jordan, youve opened my world.
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I read a story about Jordan talking to a young teen that lost his dad unexpectedly and the teen asked what he should do and Jordan said be the strongest person at his funeral and the teen said that really helped him and his family get through it. Last August my brother lost his battle with alcohol and passed unexpectedly at only 37 years old (I had to take him off of life support) and it was absolutely horrific for my family but I took what I read in that article and I stepped up to be the strongest person and took care of everything. My family and friends thanked me and it truly help them seeing me staying strong. Then I lost it and mourned for days because I miss bro!
Kudos for staying strong for your family when they needed you so badly. My sympathy & prayers for you as you mourn your brother. It is very understandable. Closeness & love make us vulnerable but, none of us want to go all through life without close relationships & love. As one who was widowed too early in life I firmly believe, "Better to have loved & lost than never to have known love."
Yesterday, Mr. Peterson blew my mind and brought me to tears. He said that one should treat themselves like someone they love and respect. To me that was profound and obvious, although it wasn't obvious prior to hearing hit
+baychevy Essentially, if you improve yourself even by a little bit, the impact it would have on your family and even more broadly on your community isn't trivial. Clean your room Rescue your father (step 3) Profit?
“Life is suffering and betrayal but there is a way of traversing through that.” I really enjoy the way he puts things, so highly intelligent. In my opinion, this is a very honest and hopeful way to view our lives and how we can learn and grow from the failures and tough times in life. It is up to us to make our lives meaningful.
Jordan Peterson (and say Carl Jung) went thru his own dark night of the soul and emerged stronger. He suffered. He nearly gave up. And he came out with gloves on. So he is not being a hypocrite to tell us please live authentically.
Unfortunately, Dr. Peterson is currently in rehab for benzodiazepine addiction. EDIT: According to Thomas and Artur Dr. Peterson is now steadily recovering at home.
@@Senpai-dm9mt His daughter put on Instagram that there would be a very positive update on 6/30/2020. First positive news since the February TH-cam update. We're all hoping he pulls through that struggle and shines the light of his wisdom on us again. *Crossing fingers*
I've been waiting for another Jordan Peterson episode. I cant get enough of this guy. Edit: I bought his book on iTunes after this interview. I am now prepared to conquer the dominance hierarchy of this comment section.
I did enjoy that conversation. I really like how they discussed their thoughts, it reminds me of Plato and Socrates discussions, the way the set parameters for debate and agreed on the meaning of certain terminology so they were sure they understood the other person. I like them both.
Ed R. -They had a disagreement on the definition of the truth. Neither of them got put anywhere, it was an interesting back and forth. Also, I think Sam knew exactly what Jordan meant, but his current philosophical framework won't allow him to cede the definition Jordan put forth because of ramifications further down the line of truth and morality.
As someone from Afghanistan - I really appreciate Jordan Peterson, luckily we don't have the craziness what is happening in the West. People have alot to learn from this man..
00:00:05 Cathy Newman (Channel 4) interview. 00:04:16 Competition, equality of outcome vs freedom. 00:06:53 Marxism falsley blaming capitalism. 00:09:29 JP is being misrepresented, opressor vs opressed, victimhood. 00:12:22 Title 9 - US university forced-equality law. 00:13:13 Differences between the sexes. 00:16:55 Jews have high IQ. 00:19:50 TH-cam CEO : "Women find tech industries boring" = veryfing James Damore's memo. 00:22:54 Personality and interest factor of sex differences. 00:25:43 Radical left labelling everyone as a nazi. 00:26:59 Lindsay Shepherd affair, university censorship, bill C16. 00:32:19 Postmodern identity politics ruined universities, spreading out. 00:35:00 Majority of people disagree with radical left. 00:37:00 Dangers of identity politics, Google being sued by feminists and conservatives. 00:37:48 JP - trans pronouns generated by neo-marxists. 00:38:55 Marxsism is murderous, Venezuela, Solzhenitsyn, Soviet Union. 00:43:06 Equality of outcome inevitably leads to tyranny. 00:44:45 Why is marxism attractive? The left is important for adressing inequality. 00:48:11 Socialitsts unconnected to the poor, filled with resentment for the successful. 00:49:13 Identity politics - tribal identities end up in genocide. 00:51:28 Idividualism as the answer. 00:51:50 Motivations of mass murderers - resentment, bitterness, malevolence. 00:52:47 The way through suffering is voluntarily accepting it or "bearing the cross". 00:53:23 Tribalism, debate is essential, JR gives example from his high school. 00:56:05 Consequence of not talking is fighting, importance of communication. 00:58:28 JP appealing to KEK / Pepe memers considered problematic. 01:00:28 Joining a tribe inevitable, individualism within tribes desirable. 01:02:49 Maturity, truth, responsibility missing in modern culture, JP tries to bring them back. 01:03:12 Personal goals / success, adopting responsibility provides meaning. 01:05:18 Discipline and creativity, JR can see himself on both sides. 01:06:22 The importance of the inner monster and controlling it, competitiveness. 01:08:44 Martial arts and sports as instruments for learning / growth. 01:09:49 Learning to lose is important for long-term success. 01:12:27 Meaning as the antidote to suffering. 01:13:32 Human reward systems. 01:14:23 Limited number of viable ways to be, constrained by the future, reciprocity. 01:16:26 Is nihilism correct? No. Confront chaos voluntarily. Establish and revivify order. Constrain malevolence. 01:18:35 Potential and chaos. Structure and order. Call forth order from chaos via truthful speech. 01:20:42 Responsibility vs self-esteem. 01:23:57 Truth redeems people. Voluntary gradual exposure to fears is curative. Confront the dragon, get the gold. 01:25:58 Why do people resist responsibility? 01:27:19 Wasting time, potential productivity. 01:30:32 Discipline. 01:32:30 Have a life that justifies the suffering. 01:33:52 Hell is real (as a psychological place). 01:35:15 The fight against evil and malevolence begins inside each individual. 01:37:14 The monster inside each individual can be negative or positive and it can be cultivated. 01:39:51 Organize your family in a way that minimizes the manifestations of the monster. 01:40:33 JP says he is a very dark guy. 01:41:59 Divorce. 01:42:45 Adversity and difficulty can be beneficial. Challenging things are rewarding. 01:45:08 Malevolence only makes things worse. 01:46:49 Having margaritas on a beach is not a recipe for happiness. It's a travel poster. 01:47:38 The thing that sustains people through life is lifting of a worthwhile burden. 01:48:05 The world is a lesser place if you don't manifest your purpose. 01:48:52 Getting your act together is better for your family and for society. 01:49:57 JP - Why should you clean your room? The result is a fixed up room and a fixed up individual. 01:51:59 "Small" problems in life (30 min/day) urgently require a solution. 01:54:00 How does JP deal with the fame for the past 1.5 years? 01:56:45 Archetypes are powerful. 01:57:32 JP has been involved in a serious scandal every 3 weeks for the last 1.5 years. 01:58:58 People's decisions tilt the world towards heaven or hell. 02:00:29 Potential. People act like the world they interact with is potential. 02:01:36 What would happen if we stopped making things worse? 02:02:36 Choose heaven or hell. Choosing hell is often unconscious. 02:03:35 JP learned how to monetize SJWs. 02:04:49 People want to get JP fired. 02:08:02 TV is a dying media. JP and JR caught the technological wave. 02:09:39 JP's experience with the biblical series. 02:12:22 JP was really sick last January. JP's daughter had serious health issues through most of her childhood. 02:14:50 A change in diet helped JP and his daughter (meat + greens). Carbohydrates and sugar very harmful. 02:20:25 Why did JP stop teaching? Sabbatical. Hopes to continue teaching online. 02:22:35 The university is where people want to learn. TH-cam has become that place. 02:24:09 How JP wrote Maps of Meaning. Re-wrote every sentence 15 times.
My young adult son asked me to watch this interview. I am so grateful to Jordan Peterson for being an instrumental teacher in his life. Thank you with all my heart! And cheers to you JR!!
helicart God looked down at us and saw all the bullshit and was like, “No no no no no no no no. You’re going backwards. Oh my Jesus, do I really have to do this myself? Fine. I bestow upon man this gift.”
Anne Hutch wow I wish I could get my mother to watch something like this and her actually listen and try to understand what they are saying. Instead my mom ignores the possibility that she might not be perfect, always right and smarter than everyone else, all while having extreme anger issues that when you disagree with her she acts like you’re attacking her and you deserve the full power of her anger, all while using the reasoning of a 5 year old. This has been going on my whole life but ever since the election it has gotten worse and now she is the constant victim all while being the smartest and most morally correct person in the room. She uses social justice warrior buzz words and catch phrases to try to shame people in to their places because they didn’t metaphorically bow down to her will and power. She literally attacked a family member last Christmas and has successfully pretended like nothing ever happened. She won’t even think about considering listening to someone that will tell her she isn’t perfect and always right. Thanks for trying for your kids and not just trying to be the all powerful overlord of them.
Cannibal Nectar Cannival You are so awesome to have shared your experiences with your mother. So brave! I have a vision board and barely ever focus on the chaos around me. I focus on, or keep my imagination going on how I want things to be for me and my family. I hardly look at reality, just on how better life will be.... I am always checking in with my thoughts to assure I dont go down a slippery slope of despair. And if I do, I immediately think about the things I appreciate, even if it is my wonderful pillow on my bed. Doing this, for some reason, life becomes easy. It is like the universe responds to my positive thoughts. The Better it gets, the Better it gets!!! And life will get Better for you too!!!
I bought into the propaganda against Dr Peterson and thought of him as a charlatan for a long time, until of course I LISTENED to him. He makes sense. Its sad how the professor is so misrepresented.
Sadly, the common personality today who seems to be intelligent cannot read a letter with a few questions or descriptions and retain it. Like selling something, you will get repetitive questions on what you already described to a tee in your add. Write someone a letter with questions in it & they answer not one question! It’s like a blind spot. I heard a TH-camr a few days back use an example of a conservative Hollywood actor saying something good, but was then criticized by a follow up comment from a completely different person. People reading this TH-camrs feed just a few comments later began a whole new narrative. They had the actor who was good in what he said, as the person who commented the negative comment. And people began to write off the actor as saying the random comment that was not his. People by nature are not observant & by nature act more like, “Lord of the flies”. That’s why they will gladly climb on board a sinking ship that has a sign, “Sinking Ship”, because they were not paying close attention but thinking of the next thing they might say instead. It’s like a disease!😂😂😭sorry this was long and hard to follow!
its like "Live long and Prosper" take your life into your hands, shape it to what you want it to be, you will become happy and satisfied with your accomplishments and then prosper.
Good or not, you're among people who're trying to understand, and that's a step above awful already because at least they/we recognize we don't know everything and there's things others can teach us. It seems to be a theme with the radical left to assign stupidity to anyone who disagrees with them.
Dalton K why do you specify the radical left and not the radical right? What makes the radical left so much worse than the radical right? Seems like a bias is present here.
This is the brilliance we get when we can have free and open conversations! This was a case study on life and a masterclass on interviewing! Thanks Guys 🎉
I have been watching both of you for a long time. At 70 years of age, I wish I had this information 50 years ago. My life would have been totally different. There is still time left.
That’s why this modality is so great. When you have relatively unlimited time, you don’t have to rush. You know it’s the means because even Joe’s copycats are good stuff.
sometimes he does it too much though. snowden episode was pretty bad because the dude was just going on 20 minute monologues and joe could barely get a word in edgewise.
I hope he is remembered for what he truly is. He is an amazing person who has helped countless people. He should go down as one of the great men of our time. But we all know how things get distorted when they are recorded. Just look at most of our ( history ) we have in books today.
I think that he won’t be remembered that way because he confuses postmodernism with Marxism. He needs to go back to doing psychology because political philosophy is not his strong suit.
I'm left of centre, always will be and I'm a fan of Mr Peterson and people like him. He tells it like it is. Idiots on the extremes of both sides embarrass us all.
Nick Bernier the riots had nothing to do with left or right. the peaceful protests were left-wingers, the rioters were other people who took advantage and created chaos
As a black man I thoroughly appreciate Jordan Peterson and his ability to present his Perspective without leaving anyone out. Everyone is included in his analysis. Completely whole and it's made me a better man.
Hope this little, non-challenging warning maybe helps someone: Alex Jones has no Credibility and i dont say that subjectively or out of spite: He's objectively wrong about a lot of things. He even supports the War on Christmas, which is literally a Lie on the 'obviously-this-is-a-Lie'-Level. The same level as 'drinking Bleach will heal youre autism!!!'.
I think it's important we recognize each other's differences, but that we leave it at that. I recognize our differences, but let's focus on what makes us the same (: our human nature. One love bro ♥️ so glad his words have helped you be a better man. We should all strive to be the best person we can be, for our sake and for the sake of those around us. Especially the youth.
Max Planck. Well, how about you expose your arguments and debate about it? Or are you only good enough to finger pointing just because you don't agree ?!
What an incredible conversation. Full of thought and reason. I appreciate Jordan’s forthrightness transparency, and Joe’s encouragement and eagerness to collaborate.
Millions of people, perhaps billions in the world who work 12 hours a day in this bestial capitalist system go to bed hungry! These two mental egotistical live in the US in their own comfort zones, perhaps paid by multinational corporations. They should go the the marginal barrios of many cities of the US or Canada, so they can see other realities of poor people.
Peterson is always referred to as “controversial” yet if you listen to him speak, you will find no evidence of controversy. He uses data and research to back his points of view. In what way is that controversial? Case and point, Joe Rogan, whom describes himself as left leaning, agrees with him. This is because he clears his mental palate and actually listens. Great work Jordan!
The thing is emotion is a gratification system whereas using fact is not. It's quite the opposite in reality because it requires us to put our biases aside. Humans are by nature very biased and as our society progresses in favor of instant gratification, so does the balance of emotion versus fact in favor of emotion. On the polar end of that scale is the ostracization of facts in favor of emotion which we are starting to see in our society today.
@ham burges he doesn't have to know us all individually dumbass but it makes the difference when you gain more support from your followers to continue to make the talking points the media refuses to talk about. And we do need them rn. Your just critical for no reason.
Yea that freaking hits. I can't remember who I heard say it but I once heard "Temporary pleasure delays long term happiness." Worded differently but the same point was very convicting. Great stuff
This is amazing. I'm almost at the end & I can't imagine picking out one tiny thing in this to object to. Jordan is brilliant & factual. Period. Amazing INTERVIEW.
Ikr!! He's an intellect and a professor. No matter what level of intellect a person has he seems to be able to be completely understandable. Thomas Sowell is someone I like to listen to as well. He's pretty amazing and I never get tired of him.
@@Pepespizzeria1I understand that, a person can only take so much and at times when a being of courage like this is confronted on the street as you say, well, he's human eh...and he lets rip. I get totally exasperated with the depth of ignorance there is not only at street level but all the way up to the totally brainwashed
I feel the same way. I've been watching all three he has done (so far). They really have aged well. It amazing how more and more you listen to it you pick up more little things he says that really helps.
@@TsimRosengren he started taking pharmaceutical drugs to treat anxiety or depression and got hooked. He said the withdraws were worse than the symptoms they treat. He should of known, but I guess he was desperate for help. Edit: it was for his autoimmune disease.
I hope all goes well with your pregnancy. We don't know all the effects of the Vaccines on the reproductive system. The CDC finally released data showing it's causing problems with the reproductive cycle. We need to get more open discussion on these issues, but the mainstream media only wants to hear 100% positives about the vaccines. My mother had 17 children, and she's now 95. It's not as hard as you think if you don't let the children become your boss, my mother had 17 helpers - so after the first few she had it easy. I used to enjoy feeding and changing the diapers on my younger brothers and sisters. I don't every remember going anywhere where the kids were bratty or screaming. Now when I go to restaurants its pretty common. One thing that is important is, she always read to us from an early age. You can start while the baby is in the womb.
@@ppumpkin3282 Show this data that the cdc released according to you. Because I understand it is total nonsense. Nearly all covid victims in hospital are unvaccinated. That is a fact, which you don't seem to be interested in.
@@DutchmanAmsterdam Hello. I work for the UK's NHS. Currently 65-75% of hospitalisations in the UK are vaccinated depending on area. We recently had a TV doctor (Dr Hilary Jones) claim what you just did and OFCOM the watchdog issued an official warning for false information. Feel free to check the NHS official website for data and google the lying Dr but please stop spreading false BS.
This was 4 YEARS ago?! Just now watching and I'm amazed by how much this gentleman has figured out in life. I've been seeing random video bits from his speeches and interviews being motivational and I've always liked em. Didnt realize how indepth he is. The amount of gears turning in his head.. Will be buying his book(s) soon!
Yeah man you’re about to go in deep. It’s a whole group of people who continually feel the same way you do on a deeper and deeper level. He really is amazing at interpreting things and revealing the higher level he sees in the things in nature that he pays attention to. Amazing.
You have my nickname all my life by by Uncle was Niche. I miss him he was a retired Teamster who worked for Vancouver Movie Industry Last movie before Insomia, with Robin William's And Al Pac. He had both their pics with him, just for me. My Aunt & Cuz had to go through his wallet, just an old school pic of me, no wife, children or Grandkids. I know he's with my Trucker Dad & Robin, Dad, Rum, Inc & Robin, best scotch money can buy. 💘 Karma 🇨🇦.
"You dont get to be oppressor and the oppressed at the same time"... this quote is very early into the discussion and was sort of glazed over but this is such a good point.
well whats the end game for this permanent revolutionary types? if they win, they proceed to criticize the new system. It's a paradox of criticism, of course when you flip the board over and put an authoritarian in, they kill you for criticism, which is exactly what happened in Russia and China.
@@immaculatesquid because everyone thinks they have the golden answer and can not be wrong. When someone thinks he would make it better if he would be in power and have all the power its sure to go down that path.
But that doesn't mean they aren't able to excel at the same things. It only means that they need to be viewed as individual people with their own strengths and attributes. You can have excellent male and female scientists, engineers, doctors, professors, etc.
"You’ve got a heavy load of suffering to bear, and a fair bit of it is going to be unjust, so what are you going to do about it, accept it voluntarily and try to transform as a consequence, that’s the right answer" This statement is so relatable, most of us choose to not accept reality and find someone or something to blame.
yes, let's all be the beta male to JP's alpha! dominance hierarchies rule! ...too bad he turned out to be just like the rest of us commoners-- popping pills to get by. when are we going to realize that western society is a miserable failure? I blame it on the mens.
@@jfreeman2927 If somebody earns my respect, I'm human enough to listen and learn. I'll always question Peterson, but for the most part he's unbiased and seems to have a firm grip on reality. I think you have a warped idea of what the words alpha and beta mean. Stop being edgy.
@@jfreeman2927 Your a fucking idiot. Those "pills he pops" was a "lesser of two evils" treatment to suppress an autoimmune disease. I'm guessing you've never had on of those or know how hard they are to treat. The western world is a miserable failure? Compared to what? The most technologically advanced, the most comfortable living standards, the strongest economically and militarily in the world EVER. Better than the big Communist blocks, killed millions, they all failed are are becoming more free market, even China, or maybe the Roman empire? Nope they fell to barbarians due to decadence, moral degeneracy, and let their military grow weak then bribed the Huns and the Galls to not raid them, till they took the tribute one year AND marched through Rome. Genghis Khan? Conquered half the world and it all fell apart as soon as he died, because his sons infighting. So your wrong, and your nasty and your bitter and you balm everyone but yourself for you miserable life.
Peterson has it right when he talks about responsibility. Someone once said, we need a Statue of Responsibility next to the Statue of Liberty because you can’t have freedom without responsibility.
@@cbrreezzyy69 true, but as Peterson says you can’t truly use or understand your freedom without responsibility. That doesn’t mean the government should require, regulate it, or create a new statute, but it’s a concept worth respecting none the less.
yes, and that someone was Victor E. Frankl I believe, author of Man's search for meaning. Thank you gor quoting that brilliant man here, was very appropriate.
"University is where people wanna learn" is soo true. youtube is the new university/learning hub. thankyou joe rogan and dr. jordan peterson, it's a good start to the morning.
@@andrewyoung9751 same! I think each time I watch this I pick up something new and useful I didn’t catch the first time. We also move into different stages in life and interact with the information in new and insightful ways
..."you've got a heavy load of suffering to bear and a fair bit of it's going to be unjust....Accept it voluntarily and try and transform it as a consequence." Mic drop
97.39% Likes (Approval of content) Please have Jordan on as frequently as possible. The chemistry you two have when talking about topics is special. Not that I don't enjoy listening to Jordan on other shows, but Joe makes the conversation flow in a much more palatable way than pure academic lecture. Maybe do something similar to the MMA series. Everytime you guys do a podcast I learn about myself and actually ask myself questions! Look at the analytics, you guys are powerful together!
The reason they work so well together because Jordan wants to get out there and Joe is genuinely curious about what he has to say on interesting topics. Unfortunately every podcast that JBP is on gets demonetized immediately so plenty of people don't have him on theirs even if he was very willing to go.
If I had to make a educated guess, Joe wouldn't feel much financial pain being demonetized on youtube. Also, does anyone know how can we confirm every/most podcasts get demonetized immediately after JBP is a guest? I'm genuinely curious to know the accurate numbers.
Joe should get a troubled MMA fighter on with Jordan, for a psychological analysis. Let JP get right inside the guy's soul. Now that would be riveting.
we all need to take a few moments each day to contemplate wtf it means that this is something being said out loud by "the public" and by the LEADERS of society.... something could be a mmmotherfuckin trap... but.. we could totally be approaching goal based on stories we write and how they go, tho.... there are some hideous chapters ahead - maybe cuz we wrote em so much we get to skip or fast forward but....
"those who have swords and know how to use them, but keep them sheathed, will inherit the world" "you should be a monster, then learn how to control it"
Joe is a great interviewer…. He is smart enough to ask realistic questions and understand the answers given while breaking down and explaining them in a simplified way. His podcast is definitely one of the best out there, his guest alone make his show light years ahead of anyone else.
Mockavel Velli - you could say that about Stephen R Covey also, 'highly unoriginal.' He wrote *Seven Habits of Highly Effective People,* arguably a much better book than 12 Rules. The 7 concepts appear so clear and simple, yet people who don't practice them generally become lost. So then is there a *genius in the simple, because there is little originality in most really useful ideas for living life.* You can even say 'living life has been done before.' 😉 yes. It's so universal that people are crying out for very unoriginal wisdom in an age of perverse social constructionism and a concerted attack on objective truths.
j freed I like JP; I just meant that some people are a bit over the top about him like he's some messiah lol. But maybe its because he hasn't changed my life in any way mainly because I already do the things he mentions. As common sense.
It's a bit of a straw-man. Very few people advocate for equality of outcome, most leftists push for equality of opportunity, which we also don't have, on the basis of the same of logic, albeit incorrectly.
_"most leftists push for equality of opportunity, which we also don't have, on the basis of the same of logic"_ I do not agree. The idea that equality of opportunity will, should, or must, give rise to equality of outcome in some way or the other is a confused state of mind most often found in "leftists".
No kidding, right? Having these two legends in the same room is like a once-in-a-lifetime privilege. Total mind-blowing experience to just soak in their wisdom. ❤🔥
Here in Britain, we are totally starved of honest intellectual debate on MSM. Watching Jordan disembowel the Marxist agenda on primetime Channel 4 was just so uplifting. I still cannot believe they let him on the air.
Peterson noticed the size of this Marxist, post modernist movement way, way before anyone else. He literally tries to teach people what it leads to, hell and destruction. Hes literally trying to help save the world and is vilified for it.
"Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's not really a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family."
The time this video released is actually few days before my mom died of cancer. I was in the dark place at mind for 4-5 years (I'm growing and walking to the path of light right now), but if only there's someone pointing me this video sooner or just approach me myself with this kind of positivity mindset they both build (also the book itself called An Antidote Of Chaos) I wouldn't have going through the same process. But now I have understood fully what's best for me, especially I've been following Jordan about a year these times, I want to grow and blooming and be better in a lot of ways. I just wanna say Thank You for both of them, Joe and Jordan, for kinda sorting this book out for me and I think I will read the book someday, hopefully soon. For everyone reading this, I think we all still have time to be better and change for the good. Now it's time to manifest our leftover time in this world to be the best version of ourselves, each of us in our own way. Thank you.
Youre actually right, he basically just spouts common knowledge platitudes disguised with large words he learned in grad school to give them the appearance of great significance. The equivalent in our analogy is you hearing "2+2=4" (something you already knew) but written out in the form of an essay, and acting like you had just heard some kind of incredible magic spell that explains everything.
Your father should have had this conversation with you. Personally I dont agree with my own dad on many topics but he was smart enough to explain things to the the way Jordan does.
I was studying psychology when this came out, it was a massive blessing I follow most of his work- but I have still ended up as an unemployed heroin addict (& failed uni). Still, a noble effort from Peterson. Some of us can not be helped: self-destruction but I am self -aware about it so it hurts even more!! I wish I was more ignorant to my own demise! When i was a liberal hippy party druggie I was happy blaming others and pointing the finger! Now, I just be sad and take drugs but that shit is addictive, its not even nice. Sad ey
The ammount of truth coming out of Jordan Peterson's mouth gives me the shivers. This man understands how human kind SHOULD be! People like him should lead this planet!
Jordan Peterson is dad and father to the fatherless, a mentor and motivator to the weak and troubled individuals globally. The world would be better place with people like him. ❤❤❤❤
It’s crazy to see how much Jordan Peterson is relaxed and energetic when he’s matched up with an interviewer who doesn’t see him as a devil. All the interviews I’ve watched with him are hard to watch. It’s basically him saying something logical while the other side gets extremely aggressive, misinterpreting his points. I love to see him this relaxed and genuinely happy to talk, instead of having to prove his points to people who don’t listen
Precisely, it's a sign of how mad the world (or at least the MSM) has gotten that JBP's interviews are so often battles. He's entirely reasonable. Of course, you can disagree with him, as you can disagree with anybody. But, so often, 'journalists' are not disagreeing with anything he's SAID, but with a misrepresentation or distortion of what he said. You've got to ask yourself why the leftists hate him - answer: because he's saying things they disagree with and he's wildly popular.
ur delusional ay. like him No wonder you look up to him everyone believes the biggest lie th-cam.com/video/pTBtIBugreU/w-d-xo.html His views on women and men, advice for women, then he has a video for why black women are depressed.
Even imagining an ex-MMA fighter with the Intelligence of JP is scary and creepy. A PhD in Clinical Psychology with philosophical knowledge with 28 wins by knock out.
Richard Kohn he got pissed at JBP for using monster and didn't really listen properly to his explanation, particularly the analogy of a fighter being a monster, which is weird because joe describes fighters as monsters all the time... But that aside... He does a great job of shutting the fuck up with a JBP and talking endlessly with your Redbans of the world that have next to nothing to say...
As a recovering heroine addict. Often struggling with depression and constantly pitying myself. Jordan is a breath of fresh air. This guy has done what 1 year of rehab. 3 different therapist and antidepressants couldnt do. Feeling emotional while i write this. But in a good way. Hope one day i can meet you and tell you how much you have helped me. Thank you Dr. Peterson.
Congrats on your recovery. As someone who deals with medical issues and has been handed over to a life of constant prescription meds I seriously envy you and want to say you’re amazing for doing the near impossible. I hope you keep up the amazing lifestyle change!
Keep it up! Others, and more than you know, are dependent upon you.
Wow you’re such blessed person to hear what he is saying and to live it. To do the work!!!! I wish you even more success in life. My brother recently died young (55) young to me. He suffered with addiction for forty years. Prayers for you. Happy for you also.
We are waiting for your good news. Best wishes for you!
I’m proud of you.
Joe, it is time you invite him again - the times are such.
JP is back! He’s been in and out of hospitals all year but he just made his first video in a year a few days ago
@@BanonOmus I'll take a JRE with him even if its a web call.
He is too weak for the moment, let the man rest.
@@-Zakhiel- absolutely. This turmoil will last so there is plenty of time.
th-cam.com/video/yZYQpge1W5s/w-d-xo.html
He's back and looking healthy.
My only problem with Jordan Peterson is that I don't remember everything he says
And I suppose you'd rather be practicing? Marching up and down the square not good enough for you? Fine, off you go!
Chris Woodward this guy knows
I dont remember anything interesting that he’s said
D Neal examples? The only thing I tend to disagree with him about is his pessimism, but I am 30 years younger than him
Learning the piano? Listen to him as if he knows something you don't c:
As a 29 year old guy about to turn 30 and is really for the first on his own and having to make changes, listening to JP has been super helpful. Im so glad im hearing some of this stuff now.
Yes I wish I could have Heard him thirteen years ago when I was thirty.
@@jasonmeador3144Me too, 24 years ago. You're lucky @BoxWizard to have both of these great men in your life so early!!
You find him when you need him, there’s something very religious about it
This is the same for me. Discovered him when I was 25, now 29. Along with becoming more religious, he had a tremending impact on my outlook on life. He determined me to embrace challenges and responsibilities in order to find meaning and fulfillment. Many of us share the same kind of story, it's crazy. Best of luck out there !
You just described my exact situation. I turn 30 in two days and just moved into my own house without a partner for the first time and have just recently found Jordan's videos. Amazing
Everybody gangsta til Jordan Peterson calmly and politely explains why you’re not
Haha underrated comment
Facts.
I didn't believe in God until Jordan B. Peterson explained to me why I do 🤣🤣
You can find this comment under basically every Jordan Peterson Video bruh
Gangsta's got feelings!
Genuinely can't see how this guy is painted as a bad guy. He is literally just saying that you should work hard, have order in your life, and take care of your family. Love what I heard in this episode.
liberals will have something to say about all three of those things you mentioned
Its simple. People don't want to work hard. Hes saying you need to.
You don't have to work hard when the state works hard for you.
Simple. Lazy losers, with family traumas and that dont like order (but somehow would love to censor everything they dont like, which pretty much authoritarian) . Sjw in a nutshell , just the 21st century manifestation of human stupidity
Indeed, seems living a moral life is a controversial thing in some circles!
Listening to Jordan Peterson once a week, keeps my room clean.
Feng shui Canadian style
@@garrettpowell5094 +1
😂 Reading your comment made me get up and make my room clean.
To anybody who's reading this, I pray that whatever is hurting you or whatever you are constantly stressing about gets better. May the dark thoughts, the overthinking, and the doubt exit your mind. May clarity replace confusion. May peace and calmness fill your life. 🙏
As cheesy as this is, I needed it. Thank you
“Prayer indeed is good, but while calling on the gods a man should himself lend a hand.” -Hippocrates
Thanks! I needed this 😊
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This man saved my life. I was on the brink of suicide, but he gave me a genuine reason to put up with the pain so I may have an actual future. Thank you sir.
I lost my 23 year old son to suicide 3 years ago. Please do not lose hope. Things can always get better and they do. I would give anything to have my son back. God loves you. Blessings
I dont know you but Im glad you didnt do it man. We're all in this shitstorm together. We need people like Jordan and those who see his logic
Psychiatrists do
God bless and lead the fight on.
Did you clean your room?
"You can’t truly call yourself “peaceful” unless you are capable of great violence.
If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful, you’re harmless."
Edit: Damn, I was not expecting this kind of "publicity" from a quote. Thanks for the upvotes guys and gals.
So school shooters are peaceful?
@@jeffblowpezlopez4122 No. You are misunderstanding what the quote means. You have to be capable of violence in order to have the capability of being peaceful. If you lack the capability to be violent then you're literally harmless because you lack the capability to be violent. To be peaceful is a conscious choice. To be harmless means you don't have a choice. School shooters are psychotic people who lack the capability of self control and are violent because they commit violence without a reasonable and just cause.
Litteraly anybodys capable of violence. A 4"11 10 year old can take down a 6"9 marine with one squeeze....
So everyone can pat themselves on the back for not being psychotic mass murderers basically
Ive never been one for patting myself on the back for not doing somthing i shouldnt do.
The worst part about interviews with Jordan Peterson is that they eventually end.
Yeh, I just watch them over and over.
but it only has to be a symbolic ending, and if you think about it every ending is a beginning, carl jung said ... (my jp impersonation)
@Timothy Mccarthy does this help ?
Fyodor Dostoevsky - Demons (aka The Possessed aka The Devils)
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago
George Orwell - The Road to Wigan Pier
Jordan Peterson - 12 Rules for Life
Jordan Peterson -Maps of Meaning
Ikr xD. I'm so glad I haven't watched most of them still, but I can tell that rewatching will be just as rewarding, if not more so.
LOL as I watch, I open a new browser window to get my next one set up. minimizes the anxiety 😎
I love Joe Rogan.. and Jordan Peterson.. plus
Joe Rogan is the best listener and observationalist. I’m 60 years old - I have lived 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, y2k, 2010’s, 2020’s. They both give me hope!
I love that Joe Rogan lets him talk, and doesn’t interrupt Peterson’s train of thought. And he responds appropriately and cogently, and asks the questions a reasonable person would ask to gain clarity. So refreshing.
Spotify is shit mate get yt music
1:37:27 pointless 3 min interruption about Jordan’s use of the word monster to describe people in a positive and negative way. Hate when he feels like he needs try to feel a little smarter than someone a thousand times more brilliant than him. But I get what you mean.
@@mikecampbell4890 personally I don’t think it was pointless at all. It’s for sure very confusing when a word has directly opposite meanings. He was kind of trying to help Jordan realise that although “monster” has clear meaning for him and many others for many people it can be very difficult to see being a monster as a good thing.
@@samueltate3549 I think if someone’s intelligent enough to want listen to Jordan speak then they are probably intelligent enough to know what Jordan means. I think a child would get it. If not then god help them. Joe is basically insisting he use a different word, by that standard Joe would need to rephrase himself all the time.
@@mikecampbell4890 but it’s the connotations behind the word “monster” that he had a problem with. Not because he personally thought that Jordan wanted people to be cruel to their family but because he feels that the word monster could be used against Jordan.
Every time I hear Jordan Peterson talk, I think "I needed to hear this 20 years ago!".
Same!
Yeah I’m with you on that. I also feel like I need to read more. Just bought his book
I think I will start with the self-authoring program, then get the book.
Hopefully more people like Jordan Peterson get the courage to come out of the woodwork and speak like this.
Ain't that the truth...
I'm on of the thousands of people who was lucky enough to find Jordan peterson lectures when I was 17-18. Literally saved me from falling further into a self destructive spiral that was so close to lashing out on the very few people I had left. It's amazing how much even a 10 minute video of his affected me for the better.
Michael, You ARE truly Lucky and Blessed!🙏 ALL of us who are older are envious. DO NOT waste this amazing gift which has been bestowed on you.
... ntm you have a great last name😄
That difference is undeniably the gap between you being on your own personal island of neo-narcissism demanding people change language to benefit you and worship your success- much like the post-modern SJWs do- and you using your success to help others, like a classic liberal of the left might. Interesting differences and nuances between the Lefties, eh?
@@jtsimms5116 I'm 20 do you any recommendations to watch from this guy Peterson
@@nikola7802 th-cam.com/video/ApC0faRYabI/w-d-xo.html, th-cam.com/video/W8e_dvbXoCQ/w-d-xo.html and many more.
@@nikola7802 yi
Jordan Peterson is the VERY BEST TEACHER of contemporary issues on the planet.
Lost 40kg (about 1/3 of my weight), stoped doing drugs and get my life straight. I believe Peterson will change the world in the coming years like he changed my life. God bless him.
Edit: What helped me most with quit drugs was taking responsibility. If you doing something meaningful, you do not need drugs. God bless you all guys
Wow, nice dude!
I lost 35 lbs since this profile photo but God do I need the drugs. Haha. I need those drugs I take man! 😅
Good for you though, seriously. ✊ solidarity bro.
15 days sober today. keep going 💪🏽
which drugs if i might ask?
@@jh7589 Adderall & Percocet are the ones people would worry about unnecessarily on my behalf, the weed's recreational and the one I REALLY can't do without is the Wellbutrin.
These are all prescribed though and I've been taking em for a decade.
Haven't rabbit holed or spiraled out of control.
Some folks can take what's prescribed and it doesn't take over their life I guess.
I got bigger problems than drugs, drugs help. 🤷♂️
That's just me though. Individual experiences may vary and I reaaaally dont judge.
@@WhitneyHaverstock I just smoke weed daily. If I don't I go crazy. Can't sleep. I do t think it runs my life though. I still go to work etc.i think I am lazY because of it though
“Better to be a warrior in a garden then a gardener in a war.”
Herbster41 but why only those options? Thats the flaw in his logic.
Antonio Pitts be prepared - that’s all it means. There’s no flaw in the idea of being prepared.
Wouldnt preparedness mean you can be a warrior in war and a gardener in the garden? Shouldnt you have the wherewithal to use the proper “hat” for the proper situation?
@@Tonytaru this is a little late, but that is the exact point of the saying.
Bodan McGraw My interpretation was to always be a warrior because you might have trouble “gardening” but if a fight comes youre ready. Whereas if you are always a “gardener” you are useful at peace time but utterly useless when its time to fight.
I'm so glad people like Jordan Peterson exist.
yes, he's very need it in these days.
He is a rare voice of reason. I don't agree with everything he's ever said, but I know that he argues in good faith and he always tries very hard to appeal to reason and sympathize with his detractors. And for that, I love him.
About 12mins in you can tell he just wants yell F ing STOOOOOPPPPPPPIIIIIIDDD
@@MadLadMartyMcFly85can't you speak english?
@@michalg4431 oh here we go...lets break down your comment " can not you speak english" that sounds worse than me missing a word😁
1:07:50 you should be a monster
1:08:44 Learn how to lose
1:09:52 A winner is Someone who never let losing stop them
1:10:30 embrace loses as learning experiences
1:11:06 Go back and do the research and hard work to learn from the pain of losing
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1:37:24 don’t use the word monster
Thank you sir
@@BazzanoJoostenThank you kind Sir
Bro you help me a lot
I miss him. Glad he's doing better. We need him now more than ever.
What happened to him ?
@@Myhok Supposedly anxiety, depression and pneumonia. Was in a medically induced coma for a few days.
@@autumnbeds holy shit
100% YES! We need people like him (either side people!) Discussion of ideas on EITHER side is so needed without getting fucking butt-hurt and involving feelings. This is how we advance! Fuck the "teams", fuck your ego, lets figure shit out!
@@Myhok high levels of anxiety, following his wife being diagnosed for cancer (she recovered), Peterson took benzodiazepines as prescribed but it turns out that taking them for more than 2 weeks produces unbelievable addiction and he was basically in a very bad state for several months, they had to take him to Russia and Serbia (where he still is now probably) for experimental treatments, both of which worked. Check out his channel for an update
Desire to sort myself out intensifies.
Laura O C forward
lol for real
Laura O C making my bed and cleaning my room now
Seriously, this podcast and 12 Rules for Life are the kick up the ass I needed.
Wow, finally the top comment I read on jre was something relatable and positive.
As a 26 year old male recently unemployed, I feel like owe Jordan Peterson money for these podcasts as they are basically therapy sessions.
MrFoolsDays - my thoughts exactly. It's amazing getting this level of access to a great psychologist that I could never get in real life. Good luck mate.
I’m with you there bud, recently divorced too and 27. I bought this mans book just because I wanted to support him after the 1000s of hours of free education and therapy.
I AM A FRENZIED GREMLIN JP Is fantastic. Which book did you buy? He has several. And have you read it yet?
Good luck getting out of your respective ruts gentleman. JP's is a good tool to help.
MrFoolsDays hahah dude. 100% yes. Agreed
What a brilliant interview, Jordan has given young men like myself a healthy dose of reality. A way forward of becoming a better person, not only for the self but for your close company. Thank you Jordan, youve opened my world.
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I absolutely agree with you, peterson is going to save millions with his words, there's so many guideless young men who need to hear this man
Fr. It boggles my mind that people want to cancel JP. All he’s doing is making better men and isn’t that what woman want? Better men? It’s ridiculous.
“You don’t get to be oppressor and oppressed at the same time.”
-Jordan Peterson
Love it!
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I read a story about Jordan talking to a young teen that lost his dad unexpectedly and the teen asked what he should do and Jordan said be the strongest person at his funeral and the teen said that really helped him and his family get through it. Last August my brother lost his battle with alcohol and passed unexpectedly at only 37 years old (I had to take him off of life support) and it was absolutely horrific for my family but I took what I read in that article and I stepped up to be the strongest person and took care of everything. My family and friends thanked me and it truly help them seeing me staying strong. Then I lost it and mourned for days because I miss bro!
Kudos for staying strong for your family when they needed you so badly. My sympathy & prayers for you as you mourn your brother. It is very understandable. Closeness & love make us vulnerable but, none of us want to go all through life without close relationships & love. As one who was widowed too early in life I firmly believe, "Better to have loved & lost than never to have known love."
Being strong means you support others but it's okay to grieve too, you will get through this my guy I'm sorry about your brother man
Sorry for your loss bro
You can be proud to yourself. I'm sorry for your loss.
Yesterday, Mr. Peterson blew my mind and brought me to tears. He said that one should treat themselves like someone they love and respect. To me that was profound and obvious, although it wasn't obvious prior to hearing hit
"Your family is more messed up than it could be if you were less messed up than you are." I just bought your book.
so far the book is really good.
Welcome aboard, bucko!
Thanks! I was already on lecture 7 of maps of meaning, and the book is phenomenal!
I love Jordan, and have read much of his work, but this I don’t quite get it. Could you explain?
+baychevy Essentially, if you improve yourself even by a little bit, the impact it would have on your family and even more broadly on your community isn't trivial.
Clean your room
Rescue your father
(step 3)
Profit?
“Life is suffering and betrayal but there is a way of traversing through that.” I really enjoy the way he puts things, so highly intelligent. In my opinion, this is a very honest and hopeful way to view our lives and how we can learn and grow from the failures and tough times in life. It is up to us to make our lives meaningful.
Jordan Peterson (and say Carl Jung) went thru his own dark night of the soul and emerged stronger. He suffered. He nearly gave up. And he came out with gloves on. So he is not being a hypocrite to tell us please live authentically.
Without attachment, we’re not really experiencing a full life
@@WindTurbineSyndrome bro where can I can read the rest of your fanfic?
@@hermeticzealHes right bro. Be a hater, its ok. Exact what JP is talking about. Victim mentality
@@mnetzer6777you're weird
Bring Him Back. We need people like him in this world.
Unfortunately, Dr. Peterson is currently in rehab for benzodiazepine addiction.
EDIT: According to Thomas and Artur Dr. Peterson is now steadily recovering at home.
@@Senpai-dm9mt He's been home for several weeks now, writing a new book :)
@@Senpai-dm9mt Yep, sadly he endured a physical dependence to benzodizepine. Luckily he is doing a lot better and at home.
@@Artek604 I didn't know, that's great news! I'll edit my original comment so as to not spread old information.
@@Senpai-dm9mt His daughter put on Instagram that there would be a very positive update on 6/30/2020. First positive news since the February TH-cam update. We're all hoping he pulls through that struggle and shines the light of his wisdom on us again. *Crossing fingers*
Now would be a good time to get Jordan back on, Joe
He'll probably come on when his new book is released.
I was shocked when I saw this was streamed 3 years ago. It could’ve been recorded yesterday.
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I've been waiting for another Jordan Peterson episode. I cant get enough of this guy. Edit: I bought his book on iTunes after this interview. I am now prepared to conquer the dominance hierarchy of this comment section.
I did enjoy that conversation. I really like how they discussed their thoughts, it reminds me of Plato and Socrates discussions, the way the set parameters for debate and agreed on the meaning of certain terminology so they were sure they understood the other person. I like them both.
I was just about to write that exact sentence!!!!!!!!
I don't know what video you watched but no one got "put in their place" haha all I saw and heard was an incredible discussion.
I did and you are high or blind and deaf..
Ed R. -They had a disagreement on the definition of the truth. Neither of them got put anywhere, it was an interesting back and forth. Also, I think Sam knew exactly what Jordan meant, but his current philosophical framework won't allow him to cede the definition Jordan put forth because of ramifications further down the line of truth and morality.
As someone from Afghanistan - I really appreciate Jordan Peterson, luckily we don't have the craziness what is happening in the West. People have alot to learn from this man..
00:00:05 Cathy Newman (Channel 4) interview.
00:04:16 Competition, equality of outcome vs freedom.
00:06:53 Marxism falsley blaming capitalism.
00:09:29 JP is being misrepresented, opressor vs opressed, victimhood.
00:12:22 Title 9 - US university forced-equality law.
00:13:13 Differences between the sexes.
00:16:55 Jews have high IQ.
00:19:50 TH-cam CEO : "Women find tech industries boring" = veryfing James Damore's memo.
00:22:54 Personality and interest factor of sex differences.
00:25:43 Radical left labelling everyone as a nazi.
00:26:59 Lindsay Shepherd affair, university censorship, bill C16.
00:32:19 Postmodern identity politics ruined universities, spreading out.
00:35:00 Majority of people disagree with radical left.
00:37:00 Dangers of identity politics, Google being sued by feminists and conservatives.
00:37:48 JP - trans pronouns generated by neo-marxists.
00:38:55 Marxsism is murderous, Venezuela, Solzhenitsyn, Soviet Union.
00:43:06 Equality of outcome inevitably leads to tyranny.
00:44:45 Why is marxism attractive? The left is important for adressing inequality.
00:48:11 Socialitsts unconnected to the poor, filled with resentment for the successful.
00:49:13 Identity politics - tribal identities end up in genocide.
00:51:28 Idividualism as the answer.
00:51:50 Motivations of mass murderers - resentment, bitterness, malevolence.
00:52:47 The way through suffering is voluntarily accepting it or "bearing the cross".
00:53:23 Tribalism, debate is essential, JR gives example from his high school.
00:56:05 Consequence of not talking is fighting, importance of communication.
00:58:28 JP appealing to KEK / Pepe memers considered problematic.
01:00:28 Joining a tribe inevitable, individualism within tribes desirable.
01:02:49 Maturity, truth, responsibility missing in modern culture, JP tries to bring them back.
01:03:12 Personal goals / success, adopting responsibility provides meaning.
01:05:18 Discipline and creativity, JR can see himself on both sides.
01:06:22 The importance of the inner monster and controlling it, competitiveness.
01:08:44 Martial arts and sports as instruments for learning / growth.
01:09:49 Learning to lose is important for long-term success.
01:12:27 Meaning as the antidote to suffering.
01:13:32 Human reward systems.
01:14:23 Limited number of viable ways to be, constrained by the future, reciprocity.
01:16:26 Is nihilism correct? No. Confront chaos voluntarily. Establish and revivify order. Constrain malevolence.
01:18:35 Potential and chaos. Structure and order. Call forth order from chaos via truthful speech.
01:20:42 Responsibility vs self-esteem.
01:23:57 Truth redeems people. Voluntary gradual exposure to fears is curative. Confront the dragon, get the gold.
01:25:58 Why do people resist responsibility?
01:27:19 Wasting time, potential productivity.
01:30:32 Discipline.
01:32:30 Have a life that justifies the suffering.
01:33:52 Hell is real (as a psychological place).
01:35:15 The fight against evil and malevolence begins inside each individual.
01:37:14 The monster inside each individual can be negative or positive and it can be cultivated.
01:39:51 Organize your family in a way that minimizes the manifestations of the monster.
01:40:33 JP says he is a very dark guy.
01:41:59 Divorce.
01:42:45 Adversity and difficulty can be beneficial. Challenging things are rewarding.
01:45:08 Malevolence only makes things worse.
01:46:49 Having margaritas on a beach is not a recipe for happiness. It's a travel poster.
01:47:38 The thing that sustains people through life is lifting of a worthwhile burden.
01:48:05 The world is a lesser place if you don't manifest your purpose.
01:48:52 Getting your act together is better for your family and for society.
01:49:57 JP - Why should you clean your room? The result is a fixed up room and a fixed up individual.
01:51:59 "Small" problems in life (30 min/day) urgently require a solution.
01:54:00 How does JP deal with the fame for the past 1.5 years?
01:56:45 Archetypes are powerful.
01:57:32 JP has been involved in a serious scandal every 3 weeks for the last 1.5 years.
01:58:58 People's decisions tilt the world towards heaven or hell.
02:00:29 Potential. People act like the world they interact with is potential.
02:01:36 What would happen if we stopped making things worse?
02:02:36 Choose heaven or hell. Choosing hell is often unconscious.
02:03:35 JP learned how to monetize SJWs.
02:04:49 People want to get JP fired.
02:08:02 TV is a dying media. JP and JR caught the technological wave.
02:09:39 JP's experience with the biblical series.
02:12:22 JP was really sick last January. JP's daughter had serious health issues through most of her childhood.
02:14:50 A change in diet helped JP and his daughter (meat + greens). Carbohydrates and sugar very harmful.
02:20:25 Why did JP stop teaching? Sabbatical. Hopes to continue teaching online.
02:22:35 The university is where people want to learn. TH-cam has become that place.
02:24:09 How JP wrote Maps of Meaning. Re-wrote every sentence 15 times.
You sir are a GOD!
A productive individual. Fine work.
Thanks man 🙏
U Da Real MVP!!!
Damn dude. That's dedication right there
I hope Peterson makes a full recovery. Prayers be to you man.
@Baltus seizures and possible brain damage. Last I heard he was recovering in a medical facility in russia.
@Baltus seems to be caused by addiction to his medication mixed with depression
@@davidgutierrez8297 I truly hope we dont lose such a great man.
Jonah Mordhaim He does have a beautiful mind! God speed!
Peterson’s gone full junkie apparently sucks to hear it.
My young adult son asked me to watch this interview. I am so grateful to Jordan Peterson for being an instrumental teacher in his life. Thank you with all my heart! And cheers to you JR!!
JP is God's response to atheistic neo-Marxist insanity.
helicart God looked down at us and saw all the bullshit and was like, “No no no no no no no no. You’re going backwards. Oh my Jesus, do I really have to do this myself? Fine. I bestow upon man this gift.”
Anne Hutch can't get anyone I know to watch
Anne Hutch wow I wish I could get my mother to watch something like this and her actually listen and try to understand what they are saying. Instead my mom ignores the possibility that she might not be perfect, always right and smarter than everyone else, all while having extreme anger issues that when you disagree with her she acts like you’re attacking her and you deserve the full power of her anger, all while using the reasoning of a 5 year old. This has been going on my whole life but ever since the election it has gotten worse and now she is the constant victim all while being the smartest and most morally correct person in the room. She uses social justice warrior buzz words and catch phrases to try to shame people in to their places because they didn’t metaphorically bow down to her will and power. She literally attacked a family member last Christmas and has successfully pretended like nothing ever happened. She won’t even think about considering listening to someone that will tell her she isn’t perfect and always right. Thanks for trying for your kids and not just trying to be the all powerful overlord of them.
Cannibal Nectar Cannival You are so awesome to have shared your experiences with your mother. So brave! I have a vision board and barely ever focus on the chaos around me. I focus on, or keep my imagination going on how I want things to be for me and my family. I hardly look at reality, just on how better life will be.... I am always checking in with my thoughts to assure I dont go down a slippery slope of despair. And if I do, I immediately think about the things I appreciate, even if it is my wonderful pillow on my bed. Doing this, for some reason, life becomes easy. It is like the universe responds to my positive thoughts. The Better it gets, the Better it gets!!! And life will get Better for you too!!!
Dr.jordan changed my grandsons path in life. He graduated because he stopped making excuses. That one thing has changed my life. Thank you.
so someone ELSES choices changed YOUR life? then the question becomes "what did you do at all?"
I bought into the propaganda against Dr Peterson and thought of him as a charlatan for a long time, until of course I LISTENED to him. He makes sense. Its sad how the professor is so misrepresented.
Thank you so much for your honesty and support.
As well as the whole MAGA movement
And there lies the problem: many ppl don’t have the patience or self-awareness to listen to him at length and truly reassess their lives.
Sadly, the common personality today who seems to be intelligent cannot read a letter with a few questions or descriptions and retain it. Like selling something, you will get repetitive questions on what you already described to a tee in your add. Write someone a letter with questions in it & they answer not one question! It’s like a blind spot. I heard a TH-camr a few days back use an example of a conservative Hollywood actor saying something good, but was then criticized by a follow up comment from a completely different person. People reading this TH-camrs feed just a few comments later began a whole new narrative. They had the actor who was good in what he said, as the person who commented the negative comment. And people began to write off the actor as saying the random comment that was not his. People by nature are not observant & by nature act more like, “Lord of the flies”. That’s why they will gladly climb on board a sinking ship that has a sign, “Sinking Ship”, because they were not paying close attention but thinking of the next thing they might say instead. It’s like a disease!😂😂😭sorry this was long and hard to follow!
Basically anyone that speaks reality is a fugitive in the eyes of the Left Wing.
Peterson needs to be a regular guest. We need him more than ever.
You can head to his channel to watch his podcasts
We all need to leave our hate behind. Life is crap for everyone, so let's be kind!
Yes, seconded
So what you’re saying is, only straight white males deserve to participate in this platform?
@@jordandavid8653 Only straight white male lobsters allowed!
Just by reading the comments I feel like I am amongst good people.
its like "Live long and Prosper" take your life into your hands, shape it to what you want it to be, you will become happy and satisfied with your accomplishments and then prosper.
Know exactly what you mean, it makes you feel relieved that actually most people can see the nonsense as nonsense.
The love of space is part of being human. You have keen eye good sheep:
Good or not, you're among people who're trying to understand, and that's a step above awful already because at least they/we recognize we don't know everything and there's things others can teach us. It seems to be a theme with the radical left to assign stupidity to anyone who disagrees with them.
Dalton K why do you specify the radical left and not the radical right? What makes the radical left so much worse than the radical right? Seems like a bias is present here.
This is the brilliance we get when we can have free and open conversations! This was a case study on life and a masterclass on interviewing! Thanks Guys 🎉
I have been watching both of you for a long time. At 70 years of age, I wish I had this information 50 years ago. My life would have been totally different. There is still time left.
james green In what way, what would you have done differently?
Good luck to you, James. You still have time
Do your best James!
There is still time sir. Pick the heaviest burden and carry it with you 👏
james green read Quran you will find peace brother and truth good luck
I love how good Joe is at just letting his guests talk. Too rare these days.
That’s why this modality is so great. When you have relatively unlimited time, you don’t have to rush. You know it’s the means because even Joe’s copycats are good stuff.
sometimes he does it too much though. snowden episode was pretty bad because the dude was just going on 20 minute monologues and joe could barely get a word in edgewise.
Fred Howland Oh I know what you mean. I love Candice Owens but she is one of those people who just interrupts her guests constantly.
he doesn't have a Corporate censor in his earphone
You should see him with Chowder. He talked over him a lot.
I hope this man will be remembered as one of the greatest minds of the 21st century.
He certainly should be
He is one of the most important people in this 21st century, he will go into history. I happen to believe so.
I hope he is remembered for what he truly is.
He is an amazing person who has helped countless people. He should go down as one of the great men of our time.
But we all know how things get distorted when they are recorded. Just look at most of our ( history ) we have in books today.
And also one of the most honest brave forthright loving caring human beings ever...
I think that he won’t be remembered that way because he confuses postmodernism with Marxism. He needs to go back to doing psychology because political philosophy is not his strong suit.
jordan peterson has blown my mind like 5 times and im not even 1/4 finished
You sure know truth when you hear it, no?
I'm left of centre, always will be and I'm a fan of Mr Peterson and people like him. He tells it like it is.
Idiots on the extremes of both sides embarrass us all.
More true then most truths
E charlottesville?
_ that was a few years ago, far left terrorists have been going at it for months now. With like 1 far right incident
Nick Bernier the riots had nothing to do with left or right. the peaceful protests were left-wingers, the rioters were other people who took advantage and created chaos
@@Cytoplasm4508 ✌️
As a black man I thoroughly appreciate Jordan Peterson and his ability to present his Perspective without leaving anyone out. Everyone is included in his analysis. Completely whole and it's made me a better man.
Hope this little, non-challenging warning maybe helps someone:
Alex Jones has no Credibility and i dont say that subjectively or out of spite: He's objectively wrong about a lot of things.
He even supports the War on Christmas, which is literally a Lie on the 'obviously-this-is-a-Lie'-Level.
The same level as 'drinking Bleach will heal youre autism!!!'.
That's a great comment to read/ Big thumbs up
@@loturzelrestaurant So is everyone else.
@@loturzelrestaurant You're probably a partisan Karen quack. Save some koolaid for the rest us.
I think it's important we recognize each other's differences, but that we leave it at that. I recognize our differences, but let's focus on what makes us the same (: our human nature. One love bro ♥️ so glad his words have helped you be a better man. We should all strive to be the best person we can be, for our sake and for the sake of those around us. Especially the youth.
Another JBP Interview?
Oh Stop it Joe! You are spoiling us!
(don't you dare stop it)
MajesticDemonLord h
Gg
th-cam.com/video/3y0QPjQU0-c/w-d-xo.html
He's been on four times now. You can tell he likes having him on.
Max Planck
Go clean your room.
Max Planck. Well, how about you expose your arguments and debate about it? Or are you only good enough to finger pointing just because you don't agree ?!
What an incredible conversation. Full of thought and reason. I appreciate Jordan’s forthrightness transparency, and Joe’s encouragement and eagerness to collaborate.
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@Kit__FistoYou either listen to him on topics you have a lot of insight in or you aren’t listening at all💀
Millions of people, perhaps billions in the world who work 12 hours a day in this bestial capitalist system go to bed hungry! These two mental egotistical live in the US in their own comfort zones, perhaps paid by multinational corporations. They should go the the marginal barrios of many cities of the US or Canada, so they can see other realities of poor people.
PLEASE bring Peterson back every 6-8 months! Each of his appearances has been better than the last!
Brittanny Graves he passed away...
Nope. Rude.
Once a month please
Peterson is always referred to as “controversial” yet if you listen to him speak, you will find no evidence of controversy. He uses data and research to back his points of view. In what way is that controversial?
Case and point, Joe Rogan, whom describes himself as left leaning, agrees with him. This is because he clears his mental palate and actually listens. Great work Jordan!
except the parts where joe corrects him only some of his slogans. listen carefully
The truth hurts
He upset the very small (but very loud) trans activist crowd by articulating a very reasonable point. He'll never live it down.
@@ngmui430 Less correcting him and more so asking for clarification.
The thing is emotion is a gratification system whereas using fact is not. It's quite the opposite in reality because it requires us to put our biases aside. Humans are by nature very biased and as our society progresses in favor of instant gratification, so does the balance of emotion versus fact in favor of emotion. On the polar end of that scale is the ostracization of facts in favor of emotion which we are starting to see in our society today.
I hope Jordan Peterson comes back to good health, and does another podcast with Joe Rogan. We need him at a time like this.
I didn't know he was ill!
Yes but his daughter has told us that he is nearly back to good health.... he is on his way.
He did his job. The worst heavy lifting. Now he needs his own, personal life. How much one man can handle?
they have a podcast just released today... he was back finally, check Mikhaila's Podcast. Hope he stays well
@@CDOro Thanks for the update.
I appreciate this guy man, He’s a real father figure. No material just pure heart!!!
Jordan Peterson is the father that most young adults didn't have. I'm one of them.
Agreed
For me too
Yeah i have a father but he's a clocked out passive man who failed to pass on his knowledge so i had to search for it myself
@@nazliidris9052 We all did
Forever Young same
We need Jordan back Joe and I think he needs us, maybe now more than ever.
@ham burges our support dumny
@ham burges he doesn't have to know us all individually dumbass but it makes the difference when you gain more support from your followers to continue to make the talking points the media refuses to talk about. And we do need them rn. Your just critical for no reason.
@ham burges whatever dude. Your just here to argue to argue.
@ham burges ok borgor
@ham burges 😂😂 do you feel smater telling someone else their sheep?
"There's no reason betraying your future self to gratify your present self" damn
Hard to execute but I'm sure it's worth it if we can focus. I too was floored
Yea that freaking hits. I can't remember who I heard say it but I once heard "Temporary pleasure delays long term happiness." Worded differently but the same point was very convicting. Great stuff
And that essentially choosing short-term pleasure often over long-term discipline is just a realisation that something is missing from your life
It's not a new concept, but well put. "Reap what you sow"
@@surethings6350 do you mean it is an old concept?
This is amazing. I'm almost at the end & I can't imagine picking out one tiny thing in this to object to. Jordan is brilliant & factual. Period. Amazing INTERVIEW.
I could listen to Jordan Peterson all day., I love his clear cut ability to convey his knowledge and intellect
Ikr!!
He's an intellect and a professor. No matter what level of intellect a person has he seems to be able to be completely understandable.
Thomas Sowell is someone I like to listen to as well. He's pretty amazing and I never get tired of him.
Great man....pretty much a HERO of Free Speech, w/o apology.
Do like him but he's only like this in big interviews, on the street with people he gets very ranty and angry
@@Pepespizzeria1I understand that, a person can only take so much and at times when a being of courage like this is confronted on the street as you say, well, he's human eh...and he lets rip. I get totally exasperated with the depth of ignorance there is not only at street level but all the way up to the totally brainwashed
No, i think he stretches the point too far.. but nevertheless his arguments are almost always non challangeable
This podcast has aged so well. I miss Jordan Peterson. I hope he's doing well.
I feel the same way. I've been watching all three he has done (so far). They really have aged well. It amazing how more and more you listen to it you pick up more little things he says that really helps.
What happend to him?
@@TsimRosengren he started taking pharmaceutical drugs to treat anxiety or depression and got hooked. He said the withdraws were worse than the symptoms they treat. He should of known, but I guess he was desperate for help.
Edit: it was for his autoimmune disease.
we're all worried. jordan peterson is a global treasure. so sad people buy into the false hate
@@jacobstewart6528 he's done at least 5 podcasts with Joe to my knowledge.
As a woman I respect this man. I'm pregnant with my first baby and I think he has a lot of good things to teach my son.
What a wonderful comment.
Peterson is a remarkable man.
I hope all goes well with your pregnancy. We don't know all the effects of the Vaccines on the reproductive system. The CDC finally released data showing it's causing problems with the reproductive cycle. We need to get more open discussion on these issues, but the mainstream media only wants to hear 100% positives about the vaccines.
My mother had 17 children, and she's now 95. It's not as hard as you think if you don't let the children become your boss, my mother had 17 helpers - so after the first few she had it easy. I used to enjoy feeding and changing the diapers on my younger brothers and sisters. I don't every remember going anywhere where the kids were bratty or screaming. Now when I go to restaurants its pretty common. One thing that is important is, she always read to us from an early age. You can start while the baby is in the womb.
@@ppumpkin3282 Show this data that the cdc released according to you.
Because I understand it is total nonsense. Nearly all covid victims in hospital are unvaccinated. That is a fact, which you don't seem to be interested in.
@@DutchmanAmsterdam ,⚕️you knew it was a snake when ya let it in.
Fknbot.
@@DutchmanAmsterdam Hello. I work for the UK's NHS. Currently 65-75% of hospitalisations in the UK are vaccinated depending on area.
We recently had a TV doctor (Dr Hilary Jones) claim what you just did and OFCOM the watchdog issued an official warning for false information. Feel free to check the NHS official website for data and google the lying Dr but please stop spreading false BS.
This is the most sustainable conversation i've ever followed. Thank you Joe for being so cool and Jordan for being so calm, kind and true. ❤
This was 4 YEARS ago?! Just now watching and I'm amazed by how much this gentleman has figured out in life. I've been seeing random video bits from his speeches and interviews being motivational and I've always liked em. Didnt realize how indepth he is. The amount of gears turning in his head.. Will be buying his book(s) soon!
Yeah man you’re about to go in deep. It’s a whole group of people who continually feel the same way you do on a deeper and deeper level. He really is amazing at interpreting things and revealing the higher level he sees in the things in nature that he pays attention to. Amazing.
I have lost faith in humanity
@@jacobballance117 why?
@@jacobballance117 Then you may not understand humanity.
You have my nickname all my life by by Uncle was Niche. I miss him he was a retired Teamster who worked for Vancouver Movie Industry Last movie before Insomia, with Robin William's And Al Pac. He had both their pics with him, just for me. My Aunt & Cuz had to go through his wallet, just an old school pic of me, no wife, children or Grandkids. I know he's with my Trucker Dad & Robin, Dad, Rum, Inc & Robin, best scotch money can buy. 💘 Karma 🇨🇦.
"You dont get to be oppressor and the oppressed at the same time"... this quote is very early into the discussion and was sort of glazed over but this is such a good point.
well whats the end game for this permanent revolutionary types? if they win, they proceed to criticize the new system. It's a paradox of criticism, of course when you flip the board over and put an authoritarian in, they kill you for criticism, which is exactly what happened in Russia and China.
@Helen Hines don’t correct people that are ‘correct’
It’s hard to pick the high points because they drop them so frequently!
@@immaculatesquid because everyone thinks they have the golden answer and can not be wrong. When someone thinks he would make it better if he would be in power and have all the power its sure to go down that path.
you can be oppressed in some ways, but be oppressive in other ways though so
Men and woman were never meant to compete but to complement.
Golden
*complement (NOT "compliment")
But you aren’t a bigot right?
Left
But that doesn't mean they aren't able to excel at the same things. It only means that they need to be viewed as individual people with their own strengths and attributes. You can have excellent male and female scientists, engineers, doctors, professors, etc.
"You’ve got a heavy load of suffering to bear, and a fair bit of it is going to be unjust, so what are you going to do about it, accept it voluntarily and try to transform as a consequence, that’s the right answer"
This statement is so relatable, most of us choose to not accept reality and find someone or something to blame.
We have to carry our own cross
We should wake up every day and be grateful Jordan Peterson is alive. A voice of sanity in a chaotic time.
yes, let's all be the beta male to JP's alpha! dominance hierarchies rule! ...too bad he turned out to be just like the rest of us commoners-- popping pills to get by. when are we going to realize that western society is a miserable failure? I blame it on the mens.
Jyl Freeman you’re so off it’s almost funny
@@jfreeman2927
If somebody earns my respect, I'm human enough to listen and learn. I'll always question Peterson, but for the most part he's unbiased and seems to have a firm grip on reality.
I think you have a warped idea of what the words alpha and beta mean.
Stop being edgy.
@@jfreeman2927 Your a fucking idiot. Those "pills he pops" was a "lesser of two evils" treatment to suppress an autoimmune disease. I'm guessing you've never had on of those or know how hard they are to treat. The western world is a miserable failure? Compared to what? The most technologically advanced, the most comfortable living standards, the strongest economically and militarily in the world EVER. Better than the big Communist blocks, killed millions, they all failed are are becoming more free market, even China, or maybe the Roman empire? Nope they fell to barbarians due to decadence, moral degeneracy, and let their military grow weak then bribed the Huns and the Galls to not raid them, till they took the tribute one year AND marched through Rome. Genghis Khan? Conquered half the world and it all fell apart as soon as he died, because his sons infighting. So your wrong, and your nasty and your bitter and you balm everyone but yourself for you miserable life.
@@jfreeman2927
“They don’t know the literature.”
“They don’t know there is a literature” -JP
Can someone put a timestamp
@@polymorphicprocrastination5345 17:53
@@heyryanisonx3141 cheers bro
@Jack Mihoff bro calm down ppl are just stupid they aren't evil
@@aha3411 Most people are stupid instead of evil. Then there are some who are truly evil.
Peterson has it right when he talks about responsibility. Someone once said, we need a Statue of Responsibility next to the Statue of Liberty because you can’t have freedom without responsibility.
Maybe raise the statue of liberty and build a statue of Atlas holding her up.
The freedom of being irresponsible is part of being free
@@cbrreezzyy69 true, but as Peterson says you can’t truly use or understand your freedom without responsibility. That doesn’t mean the government should require, regulate it, or create a new statute, but it’s a concept worth respecting none the less.
@@ethanlevandoski4524 agreed. I was just pointing out that if one wishes to be irresponsible that is completely fine bc it’s that person’s right.
yes, and that someone was Victor E. Frankl I believe, author of Man's search for meaning. Thank you gor quoting that brilliant man here, was very appropriate.
"University is where people wanna learn" is soo true. youtube is the new university/learning hub. thankyou joe rogan and dr. jordan peterson, it's a good start to the morning.
Never thought I would be rewatching a 2 hour podcast for the third time, but here we are
This is my 3rd time as well....and yet I benefit listening to it again. Miss this guy....
@@andrewyoung9751 same! I think each time I watch this I pick up something new and useful I didn’t catch the first time. We also move into different stages in life and interact with the information in new and insightful ways
ditto
Hahaha
Why?
Best podcast Joes ever done. So quotable.
"Pick up your god damned cross and walk up the hill."
oscar zafra Spot on man!
Tom Waits said it better: get off the cross, we could use the wood.
TerraFirma Joey Diaz, who he? Unka Tom is the Man Bucko and JR would want to be.
..."you've got a heavy load of suffering to bear and a fair bit of it's going to be unjust....Accept it voluntarily and try and transform it as a consequence." Mic drop
97.39% Likes (Approval of content) Please have Jordan on as frequently as possible. The chemistry you two have when talking about topics is special. Not that I don't enjoy listening to Jordan on other shows, but Joe makes the conversation flow in a much more palatable way than pure academic lecture. Maybe do something similar to the MMA series. Everytime you guys do a podcast I learn about myself and actually ask myself questions!
Look at the analytics, you guys are powerful together!
The reason they work so well together because Jordan wants to get out there and Joe is genuinely curious about what he has to say on interesting topics. Unfortunately every podcast that JBP is on gets demonetized immediately so plenty of people don't have him on theirs even if he was very willing to go.
If I had to make a educated guess, Joe wouldn't feel much financial pain being demonetized on youtube. Also, does anyone know how can we confirm every/most podcasts get demonetized immediately after JBP is a guest? I'm genuinely curious to know the accurate numbers.
Joe should get a troubled MMA fighter on with Jordan, for a psychological analysis.
Let JP get right inside the guy's soul.
Now that would be riveting.
Completely agree, this needs to happen.
Well said. I enjoy this. I dont see politics when they talk, i see the opposite. Excites me to live and to do better as a human being!
It is a delightful experience listening to Jordan, every single time. So smart and so necessary
"In a Time of Universal Deceit - Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act".
George Orwell
"First they steal the words and then they steal the meaning".
George Orwell
George Orwell was a good socialist
Wow! WOW! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
Tim Osmond Ironically that quote isn't from Orwell
we all need to take a few moments each day to contemplate wtf it means that this is something being said out loud by "the public" and by the LEADERS of society....
something could be a mmmotherfuckin trap... but.. we could totally be approaching goal
based on stories we write and how they go, tho.... there are some hideous chapters ahead
- maybe cuz we wrote em so much we get to skip or fast forward but....
“First they will ignore you. Then they will ridicule you. Then they will attack you. Then you win.”
Sums up how trump became president
@@jhh764 and how he will most likely win again
@@johnchurchillmusicart true, especially if republican can set up a debate that cant be denied by dems, biden will die on the spot most likely.
That's Ghandi.
Easy to say for a guy who always develops nukes first.
Joeri Van De Weyer you’re right it is Ghandi but I’m not sure what you mean with your next sentence...?
"those who have swords and know how to use them, but keep them sheathed, will inherit the world"
"you should be a monster, then learn how to control it"
Exactly.
Joe is a great interviewer…. He is smart enough to ask realistic questions and understand the answers given while breaking down and explaining them in a simplified way. His podcast is definitely one of the best out there, his guest alone make his show light years ahead of anyone else.
JP and JR make the most legendary duo since Batman and Robin
vexelreglage LoL JR and JP
Brain man and thumb
Jordan Peterson (Batman) Ben Shapiro (Robin)
So you're saying...we should organize our society along the lines of the Cape Crusaders?
Rough Patches LMAO
Honestly, Jordan Peterson is one of the most brilliant men alive. He is nothing short of a genius
Christian Kopet He has a few useful points but I dont see where hes thaaat profound. Most the stuff he says has been said elsewhere.
Mockavel Velli - you could say that about Stephen R Covey also, 'highly unoriginal.'
He wrote *Seven Habits of Highly Effective People,* arguably a much better book than 12 Rules.
The 7 concepts appear so clear and simple, yet people who don't practice them generally become lost.
So then is there a *genius in the simple, because there is little originality in most really useful ideas for living life.* You can even say 'living life has been done before.' 😉 yes. It's so universal that people are crying out for very unoriginal wisdom in an age of perverse social constructionism and a concerted attack on objective truths.
j freed I like JP; I just meant that some people are a bit over the top about him like he's some messiah lol. But maybe its because he hasn't changed my life in any way mainly because I already do the things he mentions. As common sense.
Could you hig his nuts any tighter? 😂😂😂 but you're right JP is an incredibly insightful man.
@@mkcsufi that's just racist and uncalled for.
"You have to cede so much power to the government to ensure equality of outcome that tyranny is inevitable."
Memorize it. Speak it.
Agree 100%
F-ing brilliant. Where does he say that can you post the time? Especially poignant in today’s Canada.
+EM D....thanks so much. Agree Thomas Sowell is a true titan of common sense and facts.
It's a bit of a straw-man. Very few people advocate for equality of outcome, most leftists push for equality of opportunity, which we also don't have, on the basis of the same of logic, albeit incorrectly.
_"most leftists push for equality of opportunity, which we also don't have, on the basis of the same of logic"_
I do not agree. The idea that equality of opportunity will, should, or must, give rise to equality of outcome in some way or the other is a confused state of mind most often found in "leftists".
No kidding, right? Having these two legends in the same room is like a once-in-a-lifetime privilege. Total mind-blowing experience to just soak in their wisdom. ❤🔥
Thank you Jordan Peterson, I'm very happy that you exist.
Right? Me too
He is a treasure ❤️
Here in Britain, we are totally starved of honest intellectual debate on MSM. Watching Jordan disembowel the Marxist agenda on primetime Channel 4 was just so uplifting. I still cannot believe they let him on the air.
Olivia Tang It was borderline glorious.
Same to you.
no matter how much peterson talks, his words seems to be coming true more and more each day. 2020
Don’t they just!
Peterson noticed the size of this Marxist, post modernist movement way, way before anyone else. He literally tries to teach people what it leads to, hell and destruction. Hes literally trying to help save the world and is vilified for it.
I don't think it's wise to wait that long. Attack their ideology before it contaminates others.
Just like Alex Jones
“HR is a breeding ground for monsters” - Jordan Peterson
-Michael Scott
fucking toby...
"I hate so much about the things you choose to be." - Michael Scott
That’s what she said!
-Scott Adams
"Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's not really a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family."
The time this video released is actually few days before my mom died of cancer. I was in the dark place at mind for 4-5 years (I'm growing and walking to the path of light right now), but if only there's someone pointing me this video sooner or just approach me myself with this kind of positivity mindset they both build (also the book itself called An Antidote Of Chaos) I wouldn't have going through the same process. But now I have understood fully what's best for me, especially I've been following Jordan about a year these times, I want to grow and blooming and be better in a lot of ways.
I just wanna say Thank You for both of them, Joe and Jordan, for kinda sorting this book out for me and I think I will read the book someday, hopefully soon. For everyone reading this, I think we all still have time to be better and change for the good. Now it's time to manifest our leftover time in this world to be the best version of ourselves, each of us in our own way. Thank you.
Jorden basically has to devote his life to explaining that 2+2 equals 4 to the population
hahaha. this is the best comment ive seen in a long time.
That's what you get when your ancestors have been lazy for generations...
Ahhh! Stop it you’re attacking my safe space lol
Youre actually right, he basically just spouts common knowledge platitudes disguised with large words he learned in grad school to give them the appearance of great significance. The equivalent in our analogy is you hearing "2+2=4" (something you already knew) but written out in the form of an essay, and acting like you had just heard some kind of incredible magic spell that explains everything.
At this point its starting to look like he has sacrificed his life to defend this point.
2 years later, Peterson and his message is still relevant. Eternal even.
Wisdom doesn't lose relevance, it ages like a fine wine
@First Last what
@First Last wtf are u talking about?
First Last odd seeing as though he put out a tweet 10 hours ago...
Because its the iceberg we are about to hit.
Had to clean my room before watching this.
Steven Injety 🙈🤣🤣🤣
that explains why i couldn’t get the video to buffer.
I had to make a sandwich before watching this :(
Steven Injety that’s my boy😉
I always do it while listening to podcasts
Jordan Peterson is such a wise man. I love listening to him. His simplicity to difficult circumstances are outstanding.
I'm 54 and what I wouldn't do to have heard this conversation 30 years ago..
Your father should have had this conversation with you. Personally I dont agree with my own dad on many topics but he was smart enough to explain things to the the way Jordan does.
@@davidm3078 my father left when I was four so that conversation went unsaid but I know what your saying.
It was a blessing x
I was studying psychology when this came out, it was a massive blessing I follow most of his work- but I have still ended up as an unemployed heroin addict (& failed uni).
Still, a noble effort from Peterson. Some of us can not be helped: self-destruction but I am self -aware about it so it hurts even more!! I wish I was more ignorant to my own demise! When i was a liberal hippy party druggie I was happy blaming others and pointing the finger!
Now, I just be sad and take drugs but that shit is addictive, its not even nice. Sad ey
44 y/o 3rd time listening to this and listened to 12 rules twice.....
Free app through your local library LIBBY
The ammount of truth coming out of Jordan Peterson's mouth gives me the shivers. This man understands how human kind SHOULD be! People like him should lead this planet!
Would you rather be a warrior in a garden or a gardener in war?
Zac Choate gardener in a war
A warrior in a gardener
A Gardener in a Warrior...
Warrior tending to his garden
A war in a garden.
Jordan Peterson is dad and father to the fatherless, a mentor and motivator to the weak and troubled individuals globally. The world would be better place with people like him. ❤❤❤❤
Dr.Jordan is one of the finest human beings that walk this ridiculous planet. thank you Joe Rogan.
It’s crazy to see how much Jordan Peterson is relaxed and energetic when he’s matched up with an interviewer who doesn’t see him as a devil. All the interviews I’ve watched with him are hard to watch. It’s basically him saying something logical while the other side gets extremely aggressive, misinterpreting his points. I love to see him this relaxed and genuinely happy to talk, instead of having to prove his points to people who don’t listen
Precisely, it's a sign of how mad the world (or at least the MSM) has gotten that JBP's interviews are so often battles. He's entirely reasonable. Of course, you can disagree with him, as you can disagree with anybody. But, so often, 'journalists' are not disagreeing with anything he's SAID, but with a misrepresentation or distortion of what he said. You've got to ask yourself why the leftists hate him - answer: because he's saying things they disagree with and he's wildly popular.
So you're saying Joe Rogan does not know how to interview people? ;-)
thats because most other interviews have bbeen on the mainstream left media outlets
if you waste your time talking to the people who won't listen who do you things that you are saying who do you think's gonna hear? Kris Kristofferson.
not true not tue joe is good mean REAL MEAN .
This man makes me realize how little I really understand and know, and still makes me want to be better, instead of bitter.
☺
ur delusional ay. like him No wonder you look up to him everyone believes the biggest lie th-cam.com/video/pTBtIBugreU/w-d-xo.html His views on women and men, advice for women, then he has a video for why black women are depressed.
If he makes you think that about yourself then your smarter & more enlightened now then before. Keep going!!! You have so much more to learn. As do I.
OUTSTANDING comment
I feel the same way. I listen to something everyday 😊 keep it up 👍👂👍
This has to be one of the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to. So much truth and positive ways to look at things.
We need him back.
@SPΔCƐJH!T MOTTO!! looks like a really creepy mixture of the 2 😂
Even imagining an ex-MMA fighter with the Intelligence of JP is scary and creepy. A PhD in Clinical Psychology with philosophical knowledge with 28 wins by knock out.
And took DMT
Dude I'm laughing so hard. What the hell is that name and profile picture :D
@@javadshr67 He can knock you out with his knowledge of psychology alone without ever touching you :^)
I truly respect Joe. The man knows how to be quiet and listen.
Tamas Mihaly that's debatable
He can be loud and boisterous for sure, but he absolutely let Peterson have this entire podcast. He respects him, and genuinely supports his cause.
That's a situational statement.
Not always, if someone touches a nerve with him he can become dismissive but it's rare.
Richard Kohn he got pissed at JBP for using monster and didn't really listen properly to his explanation, particularly the analogy of a fighter being a monster, which is weird because joe describes fighters as monsters all the time... But that aside... He does a great job of shutting the fuck up with a JBP and talking endlessly with your Redbans of the world that have next to nothing to say...
After listening to Jordan Peterson I feel so stupid and so smart at the same time.
Yeah I get that!
your mind has just been opened to a new gateway on how to think that's all doesn't mean your stupid just a new way to look a things
The be
He would describe that as part of you dying and falling away, so that new, better ideas can take their place. It’s an amazing feeling.
you feel that way because all of what he is saying lays within you. The exact message of the Bible.
Jordan it’s just the voice we , we , women and men needed . Thanks for sharing this and hope for more of you both .