Yes, it seems you are correct. I had thought the continuity seemed disrupted but didn't give it enough thought til I read your post. thank you for pointing this out. Wonder what exactly they were afraid to let viewers hear and wanted to cut out.
@@psychcowboy1 you cant even read, can you? You are such an imbecil that you think your opinion on hierarchy is more valid than the findings of a scientist...
@@ZehManelCigano You are wearing out words like "racist" and "sexist" to the point where they mean nothing AT ALL anymore. Keep on going! (Proud white MAN here...sue me! Had enough of you getting overpaid for jobs you can't even do over me. Feminism equals cancer!!)
she isn't so guilty of her privileged position, but can criticize others for theirs lolol. Of course there is some factors that may affect "privilege," but dedication and passion goes a lot further than your skin color or gender... something msm seems to sweep under the rug.
@@ripperfisher182250 Dedication, passion, and competence. Criminals are generally incompetent and thus unable to compete honestly, hence THEIR manifestation of the so-called "patriarchy" - which only exists today in the context of socially engineered unlawful disorder... which benefits the incompetent, and those who feed on them. Donald Trump and the plethora of tribal organized criminal goons circling in his orbit demonstrate how that works.
Funnily enough he went through an epiphany and re-evaluated himself and wether most of what he said was ego and then realised that he sometimes had in the past said something that he didn't believe so a lie and it changed him there's videos on here on it, it takes an honest person to admit that they may have been wrong in the past,, I know someone will ask define honest 😉
You do hear his mic in the later part of the interview. They may have forgotten to turn it up earlier, which could mean they never tested their equipment before beginning their work.
@Hana Ayo Alemayehu You cant have watch this GQ video, everything that video you linked which is out of context got stomped out in this video, watch the videos before linking them you idiot ahahhaha!
Watching this 5 years later it’s even more true. @JordanPeterson called it! The universities, identity politics, social sciences… Line by line, we walked into this dystopia with eyes wide open.
I just posted the exact same sentiment, they distorted the truth and portrayed him as a right-wing nutjob with a sinister agenda but let the record show, that he is a soothsayer.
1:08:29 "I'm not hearing what you think, I'm hearing how you are able to represent the ideology that you were taught. It's not that interesting because I don't know anything about you, I can replace you with someone who thinks the same way, and that means you're not here. That's what it means." Man that...right there, was a mic drop. NPC
Cognitive dissonance at its best. Everyone else give up your privilege but me. Also who is the privileged one here? The white European or the Canadian Native American? Hmmm who exploited who for centuries?
When he started to challenge her about giving up her position to someone less fortunate based on what she believes and said she is apart of a higher economic status, then she said she “would not” give up her position. I almost died laughing. 😂
…. So women pressure other women into using makeup? According to her . And Great competent fathers are feminine?? I appreciate her ambition, but she has a LONG way to go with: ethics , respect, anger , wisdom, knowledge … Cant get into heaven by provoking people
The problem is that she is expanding the term alt right to encompass people who it does not apply to, and then saying "look at these alt right people who like your work."
“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
She said she's read the alt right "enjoying" his work so he says read more. What? So he does admit the alt right do use his work and is saying ignore that and look at the others who enjoy his work who aren't alt right. What kind of comeback is that? He just admits it and says but don't just look at the bad guys though. The issue she's trying to bring up is whether he's at all responsible for encouraging the alt right so saying 'but there are others too' is besides the point. I feel like I misunderstood or just disagree that that is a 'whopping right hook'.
I have no interest in these topics from what i view on youtube but the algerithm brought me to this video through an extension I use to auto play youtube while i lay in bed. If you've experienced 'click here to continue' on a video in the last few years you know what i'm on about but the point is that this is what TH-cam wants you to see.
I turned 17 just a few days ago. I don't care what people think about me listening to him. He may have some opinions about stuff that I don't fully agree with, but it's his opinions and I will respect them. I'm also sure his views were thought through, so they are based on logic that I can understand. I still do and will think he's a person who genuinely wishes well for others. He's an intelligent man willing to help you set your path straight to your ideal future. What does a few of his controversial opinions matter to me? I love him for what he does. Also, I'm a pansexual female, atheist and I don't really pick sides or speak for any of the political ones, because I'm still considering my views. If you can think for yourself, you won't care about some irrelevant things.
@Stafus And I am neither agreeing with you nor him. I haven't done my research about the topic so I'm not going to speak my mind about it or believe that what any of you say is true. Generally, I am not listening to him because I want to know the facts that fall from his mouth. I am doing so because I'm exploring different thoughts, values and opinions, while not taking them to my heart before doing thorough research about them whatsoever. For now, I have changed a bit, or rather directed, the way I see myself as a person capable of doing things. I've started studying more, pulled myself together and have finally decided on my possible career. I see him as a help from the more psychological, and mental side. A trigger for my inner change. (Also sorry for any mistakes or misunderstandings, English is not my first language.)
@Fuji_62 yeeeah....I think you are confusing what he is saying somehow if you believe you witnessed a non sequitur. Nothing he says causes any confusion if you are being honest with yourself and not looking for contradicting information. But you do you, boo.
@Fuji_62 Let me help you out. Your explanation of the bell curve is incorrect as it does not represent a hierarchy, it represents a distribution among a population. Mathematically, the function which produces the classic bell curve shape is called the Gaussian Distribution. It has nothing to do with hierarchy. Hierarchies on the other hand do not necessarily have a shape but they do have a certain structure. Most hierarchies have fewer individuals near the top than the middle or bottom because they are more efficient that way, it is a result of a sort of natural selection among hierarchies. In your example, you claim that capitalism is a pyramid-shaped hierarchy, making the claim that there are few individuals at the top and many in the middle or bottom. But you fail to mention that communism and other socialist economic systems also produce pyramid-shaped hierarchies. In Stalinist Russia, the tops of the hierarchies would have been (in order) Stalin, his henchmen, top military advisors, powerful influential oligarchs, police, and onward down the hierarchy until you get to the proletariat way at the bottom who vastly outnumber all the other groups combined. A classical pyramid-shaped hierarchy, even as communism seems to flatten the hierarchy, this proves impossible every single time even when attempted only along a single dimension (material wealth), much less when including other dimensions like intelligence, experience, attractiveness, social resources, and many other things. These hierarchies are unavoidable, which is what JP often brings up by mentioning the lobsters. Leftist socialists with little practical knowledge wish desperately that hierarchy could be eliminated and humans (or any mammal for that matter) could all be considered equally valuable, but this is impossible. It is not only impossible in practice but our own brains are wired to judge social status of ourselves and others at all times. Go ahead and keep calling JP ignorant or lazy or whatever you said, but those of us who have done our research know he is correct.
Happy (3-months-)Belated 17th B'day, Miss! (My Daughter's older than you..) May I say, it seems to me you have a Very Mature outlook and approach, and I'd wager it will likely see you through many challenges.. That you can respect viewpoints differing from your own is, indeed, very mature, for starters. You recognised JP's Intelligence & capacity for Logic, as well as his Very Real Compassion for others. I hope you will be able to "share" Jordan Peterson with others like yourself who are "still considering" their views/positions, as well as those who _already hold_ differing (or even "opposite") viewpoints from JP, and still encourage THEM (your peers) to give JP a critical listening, with as much of an Open Mind as you demonstrate, whilst still holding your own position. Respectfully, I applaud you, "young one". :) I, for one, am glad you are part of this world's Future.
Peterson is in another class of intellect. I wonder if this woman's obsession with the patriarchal hierarchy has changed. I'm watching this years after the interview
@Flux_40 so did you just go to the comments to hear yourself😂 what's like Twitter you're just in an echo chamber like Dr Peterson said I can tell all of your ideological views I could replace you with anyone that's boring. Hopefully you can change opinions and grow. I certainly did after watching this. Goodluck to you hope you find what makes you happy❤
The terrifying thing is we're all supposed to be taught to be this capable in conversation and intellect we're supposed to be this critical when thinking and responding and to research extensively our own knowledge. Just imagine if everyone you knew were this way, not exactly in attitude and position in life, but in ability to convey their thoughts and knowledge
@@Gallowglass7 you do realize when you leave a comment then you leave and come back your own comment is the first one you see. No matter where youtube pushes it you will always see your own at the top unless the channel deletes then it's just gone!
@@enesduraku6087 Exactly, and in this case it's even worse than that! She sees herself as immune (enlightened ally) while professing that others renounce their "privilege" because they are using it in a manner she does not like. If she ever gets what she's asking for, she will lose everything with the rest of us. I can't imagine that she has any children, otherwise how could she promote their genocide? This is subversion of a society in real time.
@Legendary StarNPC GQ, FHM et al haven't been male focused publications in years. if you look at the large swathe of their ads, they're very much focused towards women.
I have never seen someone as well armed in a debate as Jordan was here. It was virtually astounding to see how stable the footing is for him. To have that depth of knowledge and this level of access to it is a rare and amazing spectacle.
This video was put out 5 years ago and now in 2023, Identity politics are just spreading like wildfire especially in the university scene, freedom of speech is under threat. Jordan Peterson was spot on about it. Listening to him calms my mind.
It can be quite discouraging to see how identity politics are spreading. But I think people are waking up and realising how bad it is getting. I have hope for the future.
The world is waking up to several problems of the past 2 decades that have been cancer to all of us: 1.) Social Media induced attention-seeking millennial junkies all chasing validation and dopamine kicks. 2.) Rabid Modern Feminism gone mad, trying to destroy all pillars of a functional society. 3.) Narcissistic Sociopaths that normally follow 1 and 2.
@@damian.gamlath is there evidence that situations like that are occurring, how do you define "fairly" (is it based off the employee's version of fair because they spent many years in school to get their degree or are they working hard at a place that could pay more for the labor they are searching for which the employee can negotiate for), and in the situations where this is happening have they been receiving criticism of being hurt financially by their practices?
This conversation so vividly demonstrates the difference between indoctrination and critical thinking skills. It should scare everybody that she demonstrates the lack of critical thinking skills being taught in our schools and universities today. But it won’t.
His ownership of the English language is astounding and the way he puts together a complete thought is incredible. When he goes on rogan, I have to slow the playback down just slightly to make sure I catch everything he says.
Watch some Carl Sagan lecture’s especially the Q&As at the end. That man was a literal wordsmith , storyteller all the while being an absolute expert in his fields.
Every Interviewer: I'm hear today with Jordan "Alt-Right" Peterson. JP: "I'm not alt-right" Every Interviewer: But you influence the alt-right JP: "no I don't." Every Interviewer: Well, let's move on..... So, Jordan "alt-right" Peterson, why are you against women advancing in society? Seriously, it's like Monty Python meets Groundhog Day.
JeremyDRUMS it’s a poisonings he well fallacy, trying to create a negative bias early on around him in the mind of the viewers. It obviously not only fails but backfires every time, yet these ideologues continue to try.
@@skair5425 The same thing can be said by people who believe in socialist policies, obamacare, minimum wage but are not marxists or neo-marxists. So you are correct that some of his values are shared by the alt-right. For example they don't believe in the guilt of white men as a fact. He can't just become alt-right for not catering to the some of the left policies. Surely there's a middle ground. I haven't seen anyone ask directly if Peterson is in favour of socialist policies, I wouldn't be surprised if he is.
@Anthony Bergs I hope so, But I will check with you after I watched it again. But the most dumb thing she said was she thought that it was weird and out of reach to compare life advice and communism.
@@quewntenerif616 Except it isn't, if you're capable of reading and understanding. As was readily proven by his comprehensive defense of the point and her shabby argument from authority (PZ Myers, FFS)
@@CampFireJammer She wasn't the one being silenced for nearly a minute a couple of times lol, and she had the decency of not saying the patronizing expression 'gotcha', like he did to Cathy. Then again she is intellectually honest, we cannot say the same about him.
I’ve watched this video in its entirety 5 times over the years, and now starting my 6th. Every time I watch it I hear something new. This was a Masterclass from Dr. Peterson. The way he carefully chooses his words to get his points across despite the vitriolic questions is amazing!
Feminism is already associated with hate, anger, resentment, intolerance, envy, bitterness, misandry etc. etc. in the eyes of most men and a large percentage of women who don't call themselves feminists and don't see men as their enemies.
I admire Dr Peterson, he is Brilliant and has amazing patience with this Radical Feminist. She appears to be very Shallow. She interviews better than Kathy Newman.
M B but no body pays attention to traditional and modern, they just see feminists, and the fact that the ideology that feminists have have the possibility of being so wrong like interviewer and then thousands of people follow her shows how bad it is At least have the word mean both men and women, can’t really see how someone who’s never heard of FEMinism would see it and think oh equality im guessing
We all come to an end eventually. He is 62, so we still have time with Jordan. I hope another Jordan Peterson is out there ready to expand upon his knowledge to take his place.
quewn tenerif he’s never said anything remotely resembling the straw man you just constructed for yourself. But yeah nice job bud, you really put the straw man in its place. A+.
TheRea1Gordon the radical left nut jobs are ideological drones, they’re incapable of thinking for themselves. And the small proportion of academics who dislike him are so blind to how jealous they are of the guy. He is better than them in their niche (academia) and has also left it and become wildly successful outside of it.
@@armoda1057 oh really that's interesting because he sure does love a straw man. Like the one he created about the "tyrannical patriarchy" in order to make it easier for him to deny it exists (he failed miserably, btw). So explain to me, since JP is so bad at explaining his own points because everyone "misinterprets" him all the time, what does he mean when he talks about "competence" intead of power imbalances when he talks about white male supremacy?
He gassed her out, she stopped debating as passionately later in the interview and revealed the holes snd contadictions in her original arguements, well done sir!
That last part is deep. As someone honest. If he isn’t remembered as honest our fate was less than fortunate in the end. Taking into account that total fascism is the result of dishonesty on a scale that requires mass delusion due to all the lies. Glad I took the time to watch this again after all these years. A reminder as to why I started listening to JP in the first place. I think the work he has done is incredible and he will be remembered as a great in his field, the amount of work he has done expanding jungs work and presenting it to the public is incredible.
Twitter is byfar the worst out of the social medias in my opinion, probably that and FB, but both are so toxic and I see the effects on. people all the time. Its crazy
Sadly, Ms. Corazon, a good number of people "fail" to see what you see; further to that, another good number of people PURPOSELY CHOOSE NOT TO SEE IT, because that is at cross-purposes to their need to RAIL AGAINST what JP "fights for"...
Buy Peterson's books and not buy hers. I can't wait to buy Paterson's books and I can't wait not buy this woman's books. This woman who is so genetic, I can't even remember her name!
I'm 40 and for quite a few years I was addicted to Xanax. I beat that addiction and a couple years later I started drinking fairly heavy. Me and my wife had our first child may 16th (about 3 weeks ago). I really respect what Jordan has gone through because Ive been there and I'm still there. The ideas Jordan shares about responsibility family and a mans role ect... Has been a part of my motivation to quit drinking. Ill never understand why people hate him so much. All ive ever seen him do is express how important personal responsibility and freedom is. These people that see themselves as victims perpetually and blame society for things in their lives that can be fixed quite easily if they would just try. Drive me crazy. They blame everyone but themselves. Of course everyone should have equal rights and we have that in the west. Everyone has the freedom to speak their mind and change their own lives. There is no reason to ever force anyone to think or believe like you do no matter how good your ideas are. Jordan is one of the very few people that fight back against our societies that try to force other people to believe and espouse toxic political ideas. Even if every eventually is forced to believe in feminism and victimhood it will in no way help the people they claim they want to help. The only way to fix these things is to make sure we are treated equally in the eyes of the law and try and promote and provide opportunities for everyone. Not special demographics.
IMO, Jordan is not at his best here (or maybe it was edited to appear that way), sometimes interrupting, angry?, making some unqualified statements. Helen often showing more patience. But if the topics here are of some interest, maybe watch some other Peterson like: th-cam.com/video/zQCTeGKHsVc/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/hKUffHXOb8U/w-d-xo.html
This is SUCH a brilliant discussion. Thank goodness he is spreading the word and standing up for men and women. How great would it be for more of these conversations to take place.
Best part of this whole -pathetic attempt at an intellectual lynching- interview was at 1:08:34, when Peterson says: "I'm not hearing what you think; I'm hearing how you're representing the ideology you were taught. And it's not that interesting, because I don't know anything about you. I could replace you with someone who thinks the same way, and that means you're not here; that's what that means." Jordan Peterson, in his own way, just branded Helen Lewis as an NPC.
I feel like that's a very important statement he made. I want to know about people and what they actually think. I want to represent my ideologies as I believe and understand them, not as I was taught.
I’ll never tire of listening to this interview, especially the beginning when Jordan responds with, “READ MORE!” It still gives me goosebumps everywhere & it sends shivers right up & down my spine like nothing else! 5 years ago Dr. Jordan Peterson had 1.4 million followers on TH-cam. As of June 28, 2024, he now has 8 MILLION FOLLOWERS & COUNTING! You’re a great man & mentor to millions Jordan, we love & adore you! ♥️🇨🇦 0:30
What exactly is genius about him. I’ve never heard anything remarkable come out of his mouth. It’s like people saying Depak Chopra is a genius. Maybe it’s because people in Canada are some of the stupidest people on the planet
@@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081 I live in Canada and although I agree with his stance on human interactions he is completely out of touch when it comes to faking space or believing that man landed on the moon. All Canadians are not indoctrinated.
@@mysticnomad3577 You could be right, I haven't looked into the moon landing, and the moon landing was not even on my radar with what I was talking about lol
@@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081 Understood. I like Jordan but when he was on Joe Rogan talking about it he had no ammunition supporting his stance. Not everyone is perfect.
Trying to make the same arguments as Kathy Newman doesn't work better simply by drawing them out longer. Changing how an errant argument is worded doesn't make it suddenly right.
this happened forever ago and its not okay.... okay... hows does that change anything. by looking at something that was wrong and now fixed... im worried history will repeat itself.... but it hasent and it wont and it can not.... but what if it did it would be wrong because of *listing a bunch of things that have no relevancy whatsoever at all .. with strong opinions about how things that took place before she was even born and will never happen again ... are wrong ... ---i cannot stand her im soooo happy jp put her in her place.. and shes so annoying. you can tell hes annoyed and kept serious composure in order to attack her accusations with pure intellect
This wasn't a rap battle. Her interview style is phenomenal. She was able to escalate and de-escalate the heat of the conversation as she desired, he was clearly in control of the flow of the conversation. He is also a phenomenal interviewee and I respect a lot of the things he has to say. This was a very even balance in fact. This wasn't meant to be a battle of the brains.
@@onehumanwoman I understand you can relate to her but this was embarrassing since this was who they sent to challenge this man they need to send a woman who doesn't listen or talk with their emotions
@Mu D She did interrupt him tons of times, and she talked over him a bunch of times as well. Not saying she was bad, but what you are saying is wrong, she did interrupt, she was not tolerant, and she lacked the ability to argue based on the facts he pretended. And again, she was not bad.
Many people have warned us about this outcome. Jordan and many others tried to talk us out of this, but it's too late. It has become quite obvious that speech is being restricted because those who've taken advantage of the freedom of the press and the first amendment are the last barriers to a full leftist authoritarian regime.
@@walkerjus “it’s quite obvious speech is being restricted” what? By online PRIVATE companies that make their own rules? Are you referring to trumps Twitter ban somehow infringing on the 1st amendment? If so, using the Republican view point, they’re a private company, with private rules, upon creating an account you abide by those rules and they can ban whomever they want for whatever they want. Go create your own platform.
@@nineaxis9941 Are you saying that private companies can ignore basic human constitutional rights? That's all kinds of bigoted thinking that is galaxy level.
In retrospect, knowing the health crisis he is going through during the time this interview was done, this man is incredible. His precision with word choice and ability to follow an argument and stay on topic even though the host constantly pivots anytime she feels pressed on a point he is making. It’s incredible. This man is a genius. Not only a genius but beyond patient, humble AND gracefully explains every point he makes regardless of how she try’s to so blatantly portray him in a terrible way.
Actually, at least comments is enabled, I shall respect the channel for that. The BBC is disgraceful for disabling their video's comments... Especially when they advertise "have your say".
The problem with her is she came up with a script which she thought were his weakest areas but he rebutted them perfectly and at some points he appeared to be the one interviewing her.
He's never lost for an educated response. He knows his stuff. I like that he does command respect with his answers. I think interviewers end up respecting him more in the end. If there were more conservatives like him who are NOT AFRAID to boldy oppose radical nonsense ... we be a LOT better off today!!!
@@gerrilanter1965 jp isn't a conservative. Like Trump he is in what used to be the middle but the extreme radical left now refer to it as the "far right" to delude their viewers. Thinking for yourself and using facts regardless of emotions is now frowned upon.
At 52:30 why did they cut that part of the conversation?! I wanted to hear their discussion. Now I wonder how much more points they cut from this interview. 🙄
1:09:13 JD "It's not good that I know where you stand on issues once I know a few things" HL "I bet you don't know where I stand on all things...What do you think I think about transgender issues?" JP "I suspect that you think gender expression, gender identity, are fundamentally social constructs" 1:09:56 HL "It [gender identity] is largely, but not entirely, socially constructed" So yea...Peterson did accurately predict what Lewis thinks about gender identity.
SO, when she slams into these intelligence speed bumps, shatters windows and blows out her tires: She never makes any noise or expression that indicates that there is anything at all functioning behind her eyes. WOOOSHH... Like at 1:08:55 when he is finally forced to, amazingly politely, rip her spine out and lay it on the floor(so to speak) it's like she is not there or not receiving input... Or maybe it's like when W. was reading to those kids on 911 and he couldn't get up to do anything until his pants had dried ... Is she playing it off? I've never met one gambling addict who couldn't explain how they were ahead of the game on money. Even the homeless ones. Her brain is going to release so much dopamine if she can regurgitate one idio-logically consistent proposition that it is worth the payoff. Like The Black Knight in The Holy Grail. Charging at him on bloody stumps, diving on his sword because she already knows she is the invincible hero...
rhizomeman I know right! She lied, and said that ‘no she didn’t really think that they are social constructs, and then a few sentences later she admits to thinking that they are a ‘social construct!’ What a deceitful cow.
@@WeAreWafc someone else said this same this exact comment. You're acting just as ideological as they do and Peterson constantly denounces this sort of behavior. Stop dude wtf. You're literally not making any argument you're just trying to hurt people.
I think this was a very good interview. One reason why is that they both stood their ground but respected the conversation, they cared for what was said.
6:44 "If you hire a plumber who's likely to be male, it's not because there's roving bands of tyrannical plumbers forcing you to make that choice..." hahahahahaha Jordan's wit cracks me up so much... and she didn't even chuckle. pshh
@Juliana Silva If you can't find the humour in the term "roving bands of tyrannical plumbers", then I suspect humour ain't your thing. At least not good humour.
JP: You're an ideologue and your beliefs are totally predictable... Interviewer: Yeah RIGHT! Then what do I think about transgender issues? JP: *pauses* I suspect you think gender identity is a social construct. Interviewer: I believe that gender identity is only 99% social construct - GOTCHA HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Lol, funny how she tried to side step that, then right after admit she believes it's a social construct. She just didn't want to admit he knows exactly where she stands on multiple issues without having to ask her because she has never had an original thought in her life.
It’s strange to me why no one answered the argument about woman changing name after marriage. It’s not about “ownership”, it’s represent a fact that woman now belong and represent another family and most importantly she will inherit all assets of that family.
@Sarah Die Well, and remember how he said that Nietzsche's sister misinterpreted his works after his death as well. I do remember reading that in a political ideology book I had for class but I don't believe it went into great detail as to what exactly she misinterpreted.
I think a lot of the comments are missing the mark on this one. She clearly demonstrated her reasons for bringing it up as a parallel to perceptions of him and whether he felt any responsibility for misuse/misinterpretation of his own words. As I'm sure we've all seen dozens of poorly-informed incels and other people within the alt-right sphere worshiping Peterson for "owning" feminists and other left-leaning ideologues, the question of whether or not he took any responsibility wasn't a reach at all. His response itself showed that, as he was very quick to point out and correct misinterpretation but ultimately admitted to feeling a measure of responsibility for it.
52:47
There is a visible edit-cut here.
Vote this up so people recognize they removed his response.
Well that's damning
Yes, it seems you are correct. I had thought the continuity seemed disrupted but didn't give it enough thought til I read your post. thank you for pointing this out. Wonder what exactly they were afraid to let viewers hear and wanted to cut out.
He made her cry after that idiotic opinion about what hierarchy is.
@@navindudissanayake9883 Agreed. Peterson's opinion on hierarchy is idiotic.
@@psychcowboy1 you cant even read, can you? You are such an imbecil that you think your opinion on hierarchy is more valid than the findings of a scientist...
"Privilege is a problem!"
"Give up your privilege, then..."
"I don't want to."
White Left in a nutshell, ain't it.
@@aeternusdoleo4531 White left? Racist
@Gophuck Urself is it not enough? What else are you
@@ZehManelCigano You are wearing out words like "racist" and "sexist" to the point where they mean nothing AT ALL anymore. Keep on going! (Proud white MAN here...sue me! Had enough of you getting overpaid for jobs you can't even do over me. Feminism equals cancer!!)
@@AZDC99 im a white male. Please educate me. What is the difference between black left and white left
His eye contact says so loudly, "I'm onto you...and I'm not falling for it."
@@mcv5705 no one can find a Peterson win.
@@psychcowboy1 He has won 10 out of 10 times so you're wrong.
You forgot "bucko"
@@tskitishvili3 No one can find a place where Peterson outsmarted Helen Lewis.
@@psychcowboy1 other than this video we're commenting on? 😭😭😭
This was like watching someone trying to stop a tank by throwing stones at it.
A toddler arm wrestling a giant
Perfect analogy.
Saving Private Ryan against the tank
Or blocking roads just coz your favorite candidate didn't get elected
You mean tampons
“I can’t wait to not buy her book.”GQ deleted this comment around several times now. Never let this comment die.
Understood
😂😂
Viva la revolution!
@@King_Crown-x7p why would an american say that?
@@W.W-z3x :0 … :| u right.
HER: "I've definitely read bits"
HIM: "Read more."
😂😂😂😂
she just got destroyed by 2 words
Eury lol
It baffles me you don't think exactly like me?!?....really, of all the things to baffle you.
*read more* BAM! haven't laughed that hard in weeks
@@Toodream I caught that too....what a smug broad.
“Roving bands of tyrannical plumbers” was the name of my band in high school.
That's absolute gold! 😂😂
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bahahahahahahahahahaha
😂😎
Definitely catches ones attention
“I feel very privileged for my job”
“Then quit”
“Nah”
she isn't so guilty of her privileged position, but can criticize others for theirs lolol. Of course there is some factors that may affect "privilege," but dedication and passion goes a lot further than your skin color or gender... something msm seems to sweep under the rug.
😂🤣😭
She's a product of the same self-loathing/worshiping culture that manufactured Patty Hearst.
@@ripperfisher182250 Dedication, passion, and competence. Criminals are generally incompetent and thus unable to compete honestly, hence THEIR manifestation of the so-called "patriarchy" - which only exists today in the context of socially engineered unlawful disorder... which benefits the incompetent, and those who feed on them.
Donald Trump and the plethora of tribal organized criminal goons circling in his orbit demonstrate how that works.
She is the brainworks of the farm.
Are you not aware, sisters, that it is for your benefit that she eats all the apples and drinks all the milk!?!
"How would you like to be remembered?" "As someone honest" Absolute gold.
Total excellence imo too.
Natives Americans arent filthy rich
@@joshuajim65 define rich
JP takin this tryhard to school. She gets cred for trying though
Funnily enough he went through an epiphany and re-evaluated himself and wether most of what he said was ego and then realised that he sometimes had in the past said something that he didn't believe so a lie and it changed him there's videos on here on it, it takes an honest person to admit that they may have been wrong in the past,, I know someone will ask define honest 😉
Looks like they forgot about equality when it comes to microphone quality
Microphone equality!
they did that on purpose cuz their argument is so weak
You do hear his mic in the later part of the interview. They may have forgotten to turn it up earlier, which could mean they never tested their equipment before beginning their work.
I wish you could have seen my reaction to reading this. I almost spot soda all over my desk.
Dude she is writing book about feminism.
She's doing her best but Jordan is ON FIRE here. Yet in a very controlled way. What a joy to watch.
@@johnfields4414 No one can find a Peterson win.
this "interview" took a lot out of Peterson, took him a few days to recover. His words.
And yes, Jordan's firing on all cylinders.
@David.S. No one can find a Peterson win.
@psychcowboy1 See his book reviews. Or watch the vid above, at least.
@@yolomcswaggens9482 I agree JP was rude and got intellectually destroyed in this video.
Hey British GQ, fire your audio guy.
They probably un-mic'd Jordan on purpose.
Seriously. First thing I noticed haha
Did you just assume the audio person is a guy?! Sexist!!!!!
I also noticed that. The interviewer's audio is fine but somehow Prof. JP's audio is messed up. They probably did that on purpose lol
They definitely did it on purpose to make her appear dominant at a subconscious level
when he said "READ MORE"
man that was some extreme burn moment
piyush sharma more like extreme BRUH, am I right?
@Justin Last true
DUDE!!BRUH!! THIS WAS FIRE!!
I like how they did that was to immediately paint him in a bad light
jordan peterson is pretty much the kwai chang caine of the academic world
"how would you like to be remembered?"
"As someone honest"
That is something everyone can respect.
Love it! What minute of the interview does he say that?
1:40:52
@@JPMNRB I think it's her last question...
@Hana Ayo Alemayehu You cant have watch this GQ video, everything that video you linked which is out of context got stomped out in this video, watch the videos before linking them you idiot ahahhaha!
@@jackgreenway4646 it's a bot
Watching this 5 years later it’s even more true.
@JordanPeterson called it! The universities, identity politics, social sciences… Line by line, we walked into this dystopia with eyes wide open.
I just posted the exact same sentiment, they distorted the truth and portrayed him as a right-wing nutjob with a sinister agenda but let the record show, that he is a soothsayer.
I'm watching this again today, my man was right about every prediction
Calm down
1:08:29 "I'm not hearing what you think, I'm hearing how you are able to represent the ideology that you were taught. It's not that interesting because I don't know anything about you, I can replace you with someone who thinks the same way, and that means you're not here. That's what it means." Man that...right there, was a mic drop. NPC
It was the best line I ever heard used against a liberal...
When did he say this?
Yeah it was deadly, mic smash
1:08:29
Her conversational style got a bit better after that.
Jordan: "Then why don't you give up your 'priveleged' position?"
Woman: "Because I don't want to"
Clear evidence of selfish and unwise feminist.
Cognitive dissonance at its best. Everyone else give up your privilege but me. Also who is the privileged one here? The white European or the Canadian Native American? Hmmm who exploited who for centuries?
oh yeah.. that one stops these people in their tracks. lol
Of course it's easy to say someone else needs to give something up. Typical of these people to not want to give up anything themselves. Hypocrites.
I know feminist hypocrite
I bought her book!
Now my wifes boyfriend has kicked me out of the house.
strange lee 😆😆😆
😄😆
That’s not deep, but it is funny.
You need to stand up for yourself mate and not allow boyfriend to kick you out- man up - don’t be a wimp and weak
😹😹😹😹😹😹 ohhh boy.... it's so deep .... n dark . Sarcasm
HL: uniformed biased question.
JP: thoughtful informed response.
HL: dismissed, subject change. 😂
Consider the lobsters. Stop considering the lobsters
When he started to challenge her about giving up her position to someone less fortunate based on what she believes and said she is apart of a higher economic status, then she said she “would not” give up her position. I almost died laughing. 😂
Time stamp?
@@amitsaxena4108 17:30
Yup.
Just your typical feminist mental gymnastics.
It's easy to accuse others.
It takes real character to look at yourself with some humility.
…. So women pressure other women into using makeup? According to her . And Great competent fathers are feminine?? I appreciate her ambition, but she has a LONG way to go with: ethics , respect, anger , wisdom, knowledge … Cant get into heaven by provoking people
I know right. Bloody golden
Apprentice journalist: "I've read bits"
Jordan Petetson: "Read more"
The problem is that she is expanding the term alt right to encompass people who it does not apply to, and then saying "look at these alt right people who like your work."
Epic reply.
Yes, I liked that bit!
JORDAN PETERSON DESTROYS FEMINIST WITH FACTS AND LOGIC :D
Lose definition of alt right...haha
“I can’t wait to not to buy her book.”GQ deleted this comment around several times now. Never let this comment die
- Doing my bit
The hero we need
why is this identical comment re-posted by 3 different people..she's an educated idiot!
@@vincem1957 that she is my friend intelligence and education don’t necessarily go hand in hand
The hero we never knew we needed
"I can't wait to not buy her book!!" 😁😁✊✊💯💯👏👏
Interviewer: This is what you're saying.
JP: No, it's not.
Interviewer: Well, this is what you mean.
JP: No, it's not.
Great job. Truly, great job.
“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Good quote.
👏
Capitalism vs Communism basically
That is perfect
Solzhenitsyn definitely knew a little about freedom, and a whole lot more about a lack of.
“I’ve read bits on the internet-“
“Read more.”
Starting out with a whopping left hook.
Why did I click that !!!
🤣
Yes, quite brilliant!!
* Right hook
She said she's read the alt right "enjoying" his work so he says read more. What? So he does admit the alt right do use his work and is saying ignore that and look at the others who enjoy his work who aren't alt right. What kind of comeback is that? He just admits it and says but don't just look at the bad guys though. The issue she's trying to bring up is whether he's at all responsible for encouraging the alt right so saying 'but there are others too' is besides the point.
I feel like I misunderstood or just disagree that that is a 'whopping right hook'.
This video is two years old, and I can still find comments from five minutes ago
Literally
Yesssirrr
What’s your point?
@@jaymethomas7109 I just thought that it was interesting. Most videos this old don't attract very many comments.
I have no interest in these topics from what i view on youtube but the algerithm brought me to this video through an extension I use to auto play youtube while i lay in bed. If you've experienced 'click here to continue' on a video in the last few years you know what i'm on about but the point is that this is what TH-cam wants you to see.
I turned 17 just a few days ago.
I don't care what people think about me listening to him. He may have some opinions about stuff that I don't fully agree with, but it's his opinions and I will respect them. I'm also sure his views were thought through, so they are based on logic that I can understand.
I still do and will think he's a person who genuinely wishes well for others. He's an intelligent man willing to help you set your path straight to your ideal future. What does a few of his controversial opinions matter to me? I love him for what he does.
Also, I'm a pansexual female, atheist and I don't really pick sides or speak for any of the political ones, because I'm still considering my views. If you can think for yourself, you won't care about some irrelevant things.
@Stafus And I am neither agreeing with you nor him. I haven't done my research about the topic so I'm not going to speak my mind about it or believe that what any of you say is true.
Generally, I am not listening to him because I want to know the facts that fall from his mouth. I am doing so because I'm exploring different thoughts, values and opinions, while not taking them to my heart before doing thorough research about them whatsoever. For now, I have changed a bit, or rather directed, the way I see myself as a person capable of doing things. I've started studying more, pulled myself together and have finally decided on my possible career.
I see him as a help from the more psychological, and mental side. A trigger for my inner change.
(Also sorry for any mistakes or misunderstandings, English is not my first language.)
@Fuji_62 you aren't even using non sequitur correctly.... Your opinion is an exercise in delusional thinking.
@Fuji_62 yeeeah....I think you are confusing what he is saying somehow if you believe you witnessed a non sequitur. Nothing he says causes any confusion if you are being honest with yourself and not looking for contradicting information. But you do you, boo.
@Fuji_62 Let me help you out.
Your explanation of the bell curve is incorrect as it does not represent a hierarchy, it represents a distribution among a population. Mathematically, the function which produces the classic bell curve shape is called the Gaussian Distribution. It has nothing to do with hierarchy.
Hierarchies on the other hand do not necessarily have a shape but they do have a certain structure. Most hierarchies have fewer individuals near the top than the middle or bottom because they are more efficient that way, it is a result of a sort of natural selection among hierarchies.
In your example, you claim that capitalism is a pyramid-shaped hierarchy, making the claim that there are few individuals at the top and many in the middle or bottom.
But you fail to mention that communism and other socialist economic systems also produce pyramid-shaped hierarchies. In Stalinist Russia, the tops of the hierarchies would have been (in order) Stalin, his henchmen, top military advisors, powerful influential oligarchs, police, and onward down the hierarchy until you get to the proletariat way at the bottom who vastly outnumber all the other groups combined. A classical pyramid-shaped hierarchy, even as communism seems to flatten the hierarchy, this proves impossible every single time even when attempted only along a single dimension (material wealth), much less when including other dimensions like intelligence, experience, attractiveness, social resources, and many other things.
These hierarchies are unavoidable, which is what JP often brings up by mentioning the lobsters. Leftist socialists with little practical knowledge wish desperately that hierarchy could be eliminated and humans (or any mammal for that matter) could all be considered equally valuable, but this is impossible. It is not only impossible in practice but our own brains are wired to judge social status of ourselves and others at all times.
Go ahead and keep calling JP ignorant or lazy or whatever you said, but those of us who have done our research know he is correct.
Happy (3-months-)Belated 17th B'day, Miss!
(My Daughter's older than you..)
May I say, it seems to me you have a Very Mature outlook and approach, and I'd wager it will likely see you through many challenges..
That you can respect viewpoints differing from your own is, indeed, very mature, for starters.
You recognised JP's Intelligence & capacity for Logic, as well as his Very Real Compassion for others.
I hope you will be able to "share" Jordan Peterson with others like yourself who are "still considering" their views/positions, as well as those who _already hold_ differing (or even "opposite") viewpoints from JP, and still encourage THEM (your peers) to give JP a critical listening, with as much of an Open Mind as you demonstrate, whilst still holding your own position.
Respectfully, I applaud you, "young one". :)
I, for one, am glad you are part of this world's Future.
Helen Lewis: Im gonna bait Jordan Peterson
Jordan Peterson: Hold my lobster
best comment on here, not sure why it doesnt have more likes.
Made my week!!!!
@@sawyermade5469 only 3 days old as of now. Haha. Doing pretty good.
Almost burst out laughing lol
I properly laughed reading this comment. Thank you 😂.
Peterson is in another class of intellect. I wonder if this woman's obsession with the patriarchal hierarchy has changed. I'm watching this years after the interview
@Flux_40 so did you just go to the comments to hear yourself😂 what's like Twitter you're just in an echo chamber like Dr Peterson said I can tell all of your ideological views I could replace you with anyone that's boring. Hopefully you can change opinions and grow. I certainly did after watching this. Goodluck to you hope you find what makes you happy❤
@@dandemaree7081 We are searching for a spot where Peterson outsmarted Helen Lewis.
@Fuji_62yiiikes
The terrifying thing is we're all supposed to be taught to be this capable in conversation and intellect we're supposed to be this critical when thinking and responding and to research extensively our own knowledge. Just imagine if everyone you knew were this way, not exactly in attitude and position in life, but in ability to convey their thoughts and knowledge
@@andytobykemner4625 Did Peterson have any critical thinking based upon research and knowledge?
Deleting Comments now? Real mature, british GQ, real mature there...
But they leave this interview up which is clearly damning to the presenting side’s view 😂
@@leiasart4610 You're right it's youtube. They do mix comments around and push comments down if it's a popular video
@@Gallowglass7 you do realize when you leave a comment then you leave and come back your own comment is the first one you see. No matter where youtube pushes it you will always see your own at the top unless the channel deletes then it's just gone!
What do you expect from leftist amoebas?
The guy on the right reminds me of a woman.
"Priviledge is a problem"
Then give yours to someone less priviledge"
"No."
i dont want to. someone else should.
I was wondering if someone else besides me caught that. Well done!
@Drew Down Sure it is. Why not? She can easily resign and let someone "less privileged" have her position.
@@charlesomalley9564 The good ol' lets be charitable with the money of the others logic in full display here.
@@enesduraku6087 Exactly, and in this case it's even worse than that! She sees herself as immune (enlightened ally) while professing that others renounce their "privilege" because they are using it in a manner she does not like. If she ever gets what she's asking for, she will lose everything with the rest of us. I can't imagine that she has any children, otherwise how could she promote their genocide? This is subversion of a society in real time.
British GQ can't afford 2 microphones?
They do it on purpose so JBR won't sound clear
@Legendary StarNPC GQ, FHM et al haven't been male focused publications in years. if you look at the large swathe of their ads, they're very much focused towards women.
Have you ever seen the Mics that Mr Lobsterman uses? They're absolutely atrocious.
Lol exactly what I was thinking.
Or an interviewer who is a bit easier on the eyes
I have never seen someone as well armed in a debate as Jordan was here. It was virtually astounding to see how stable the footing is for him. To have that depth of knowledge and this level of access to it is a rare and amazing spectacle.
Interviewer: "I've definitely read bits"
JP: "Read more."
Nnjni n nnnnnnnnnnn nijnnjijninjjnj nnnnnnjnnjinjjnn
She did well not running away crying.
Be more honest jp
I loved that😭
Yeah it’s pretty hilarious how triggered JP gets when it’s pointed out that the alt-right loves him.
This video was put out 5 years ago and now in 2023, Identity politics are just spreading like wildfire especially in the university scene, freedom of speech is under threat. Jordan Peterson was spot on about it. Listening to him calms my mind.
It can be quite discouraging to see how identity politics are spreading. But I think people are waking up and realising how bad it is getting. I have hope for the future.
I'm where she described him as calling his description as apocalyptic terms. I need to check back in on this in another 5 years.
Alex Jones been saying sense 1999
it was spreading like fire when they had this conversation - it's been spreading for over 10 years.
Yes!!!!!!
Its nice to see so many women saying positive things about him in the comments
The world is waking up to several problems of the past 2 decades that have been cancer to all of us:
1.) Social Media induced attention-seeking millennial junkies all chasing validation and dopamine kicks.
2.) Rabid Modern Feminism gone mad, trying to destroy all pillars of a functional society.
3.) Narcissistic Sociopaths that normally follow 1 and 2.
woah woah... how do u know they are not men transitioning to a women...... hahah a little mirco agression right there.
Did you just assume my gender??
Perhaps they don't belong in the kitchen...
It's particularly straight women as opposed to the alphabet soup which that woman is a part of.
This man is an absolute gem
I can listen to Peterson almost endlessly.
Only to those who find thinking frightening
@topologyrob I don't think the interviewer was too fond of him.
Spoiler alert: JP remains the undefeated champion of logic.
SHOCKER!
Hows he doing? Has been sick; last i heard.
Like im not on the internet to find out..
Halcyon ur smart for not being on the internet. Hope he’s well
Then you don't know Zizek
𝟾:𝟺𝟻, ᴛʜᴀᴛ’s ᴛʜᴇ ғɪʀsᴛ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴀ ʙᴏᴏᴋ ᴡᴀs ᴇɴᴅᴏʀsᴇᴅ ʙʏ ᴀ sᴇᴀʟ.
“I can’t wait not to buy her book”.
Her poor husband is probably a doormat.
She’s glad
supporting the cause!
@@TranslatedAssumption they got divorced 🤣🤣
@@TranslatedAssumption Oh, no doubt. Just look him up and look at those puppy eyes :)
“How would you like to be remembered?” - “As someone honest.” What a man.
yeah says clean your room, addicted to pills...
pro-conversation
robert fripp he’s not perfect you’re definitely addicted to something aren’t we all
@@tostitosfritos1748 yep.. but i don't make millions posturing to insecure males..
robert fripp it’s business...
That "READ MORE" at the very beginning was brutal ❤ And the interview hasn't even started yet.
And she never recovered
"What are you selling that people are buying?"
"Truth."
BS
Chad
New titled “Jordan Peterson defending his rational beliefs for an hour and a half”
@@DeathSpellXVI Nah JP is accurate on most things he says
@@DeathSpellXVI That's your argument? You need to try way harder.
I have never seen an interviewer act so confident about phenomena they hardly understand.
She's writing a book! Didn't you listen?
i'd hardly call a man making some adolescents clean their room a phenomenon
Her face and body language when he was grilling her over the lobsters...it was funny but i kinda felt embarrassed for her.......
Made my day bro
“Give up your job for someone who needs it more”
“Nah,
But rich people should give up their money for people that need it more”
🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
When she says "rich people", she means her competitors.
U said it 🖒👍🖒👍
"Rich people should pay their workers fairly, and their taxes completely"
@@damian.gamlath is there evidence that situations like that are occurring, how do you define "fairly" (is it based off the employee's version of fair because they spent many years in school to get their degree or are they working hard at a place that could pay more for the labor they are searching for which the employee can negotiate for), and in the situations where this is happening have they been receiving criticism of being hurt financially by their practices?
@Billy But Whole explain
This conversation so vividly demonstrates the difference between indoctrination and critical thinking skills. It should scare everybody that she demonstrates the lack of critical thinking skills being taught in our schools and universities today. But it won’t.
She does indeed lack critical thinking. She can't even converse with someone. Only talk at them
@Fuji_62 wrong. Read more.
I've never, ever seen anyone so devastatingly articulate
Right? He is a master at conveying his thoughts
@@Pratherwind 🤣
@@Person0fColor do you disagree? lol
His ownership of the English language is astounding and the way he puts together a complete thought is incredible.
When he goes on rogan, I have to slow the playback down just slightly to make sure I catch everything he says.
Watch some Carl Sagan lecture’s especially the Q&As at the end. That man was a literal wordsmith , storyteller all the while being an absolute expert in his fields.
I'm sure she usually finds herself the smartest person in the room. This was just the wrong room for her to find herself in.
About the only time she's the smartest person in the room is when she's on the throne.
I'm sure you would be spooked as well if you woke up in the lair of an apex predator..
she is hyper introverted and spends 99% of her time in her woman cave, ALONE... so yes
@@enematwatson1357 second smartest... the little brown stuff is smart enough to run away from her
@@davidturner1641
Now, that is just crass and rude. Well done, Sir. 😁 😅
Every Interviewer: I'm hear today with Jordan "Alt-Right" Peterson.
JP: "I'm not alt-right"
Every Interviewer: But you influence the alt-right
JP: "no I don't."
Every Interviewer: Well, let's move on..... So, Jordan "alt-right" Peterson, why are you against women advancing in society?
Seriously, it's like Monty Python meets Groundhog Day.
JeremyDRUMS it’s a poisonings he well fallacy, trying to create a negative bias early on around him in the mind of the viewers. It obviously not only fails but backfires every time, yet these ideologues continue to try.
18:29 GQ owned. She's filthy rich woman.
Hahaha, gave me a good laugh; Thank you!
This sketch has been done a few times at least. Reality lags behind art.
@@skair5425 The same thing can be said by people who believe in socialist policies, obamacare, minimum wage but are not marxists or neo-marxists. So you are correct that some of his values are shared by the alt-right. For example they don't believe in the guilt of white men as a fact. He can't just become alt-right for not catering to the some of the left policies. Surely there's a middle ground.
I haven't seen anyone ask directly if Peterson is in favour of socialist policies, I wouldn't be surprised if he is.
I am female and Jordan Peterson is right on!! Love this man!
Same.😊
"Looking forward for not buying her book" Honor the original comment
Np sir
Check out her write up on the interview
Totally delusional
www.google.com/amp/s/www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/helen-lewis-jordan-peterson%3famp
@Anthony Bergs she reckons she stumped him!!! When?!
@@asubmariner7970 she actually thought she raised some good points and stumped him,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, I want to watch the interview again if I missed anything
@Anthony Bergs I hope so, But I will check with you after I watched it again. But the most dumb thing she said was she thought that it was weird and out of reach to compare life advice and communism.
This was better than half the movies I've seen this year!!
all*
ToaToay móviles are trash
Literally lol
Lol
@@leanhanleleanah6929 You then haven't watched the right kind of movies
"Is that your theory, eh?"
"Yeah."
"Well it's a foolish theory."
XD
"My big problem with the lobster is that it's scientifically... b ollocks"
XD
@@quewntenerif616 Except it isn't, if you're capable of reading and understanding.
As was readily proven by his comprehensive defense of the point and her shabby argument from authority (PZ Myers, FFS)
My favourite, “I benefit from lots of unearned privileges” Peterson: “Like your job!?” ROASTED and she was totally unaware, haha.
@@CampFireJammer She wasn't the one being silenced for nearly a minute a couple of times lol, and she had the decency of not saying the patronizing expression 'gotcha', like he did to Cathy.
Then again she is intellectually honest, we cannot say the same about him.
@@thaliagarcia9684, #YaasSisSlayy #JordanManBad
I’ve watched this video in its entirety 5 times over the years, and now starting my 6th. Every time I watch it I hear something new. This was a Masterclass from Dr. Peterson. The way he carefully chooses his words to get his points across despite the vitriolic questions is amazing!
His patience is next level! Why do interviewers keep reinterpreting things he states clearly?! He deserves a medal for dealing with so much nonsense.
No one can find a JP win.
"Lorrdd Fadda😂"
He's just high on drugs here probably
@@penultimania4295 Helen won most of the points.
@@psychcowboy1JP got you worked up for 3yrs straight 😂
My like is for Peterson, this journalist is not making feminism look any good
Feminism is already associated with hate, anger, resentment, intolerance, envy, bitterness, misandry etc. etc. in the eyes of most men and a large percentage of women who don't call themselves feminists and don't see men as their enemies.
I admire Dr Peterson, he is Brilliant and has amazing patience with this Radical Feminist. She appears to be very Shallow. She interviews better than Kathy Newman.
Clever choice.
@@takarsagafe Hey! Why do you think that?
M B but no body pays attention to traditional and modern, they just see feminists, and the fact that the ideology that feminists have have the possibility of being so wrong like interviewer and then thousands of people follow her shows how bad it is
At least have the word mean both men and women, can’t really see how someone who’s never heard of FEMinism would see it and think oh equality im guessing
"Can’t wait to not buy her book”. GQ deleted this comment around several times now. Let’s keep this comment alive.
@Serpant Stepper i love you more
Dumb comment
Just do it ! No need to tell the world what you aren’t going to do
@@elsievaenz9531 That's actually the only need to comment such an announcement.
We all come to an end eventually. He is 62, so we still have time with Jordan. I hope another Jordan Peterson is out there ready to expand upon his knowledge to take his place.
She said "I am married" x3. And then "Marriage is an institution of tyrannical patriarchy". I thot "Oh man. Good luck to her husband"
I wouldn't worry too much about him. No doubt they both live in that self-deluded world called the far-left...
imagine being stuck in a marriage like that.
You can agree to disagree in relationships. it might be possible he changes her mind. It's good to have dreams.
The west / first world countries are full of weird and strange people
@@TSAR373 More than likely a beta soyboy.
funny how Peterson’s audio is extremely low compared to the interviewer, but his words ring louder and full of meaning.
52:40 I want to know what was edited out at the end of that bit of discussion
quewn tenerif he’s never said anything remotely resembling the straw man you just constructed for yourself. But yeah nice job bud, you really put the straw man in its place. A+.
@@armoda1057 a lot of strawmen seem to get put to rest around Peterson lol
quewn tenerif is that an echo from the hive mind I hear?
TheRea1Gordon the radical left nut jobs are ideological drones, they’re incapable of thinking for themselves. And the small proportion of academics who dislike him are so blind to how jealous they are of the guy. He is better than them in their niche (academia) and has also left it and become wildly successful outside of it.
@@armoda1057 oh really that's interesting because he sure does love a straw man. Like the one he created about the "tyrannical patriarchy" in order to make it easier for him to deny it exists (he failed miserably, btw). So explain to me, since JP is so bad at explaining his own points because everyone "misinterprets" him all the time, what does he mean when he talks about "competence" intead of power imbalances when he talks about white male supremacy?
He gassed her out, she stopped debating as passionately later in the interview and revealed the holes snd contadictions in her original arguements, well done sir!
shes actually a globalist, wanna be tyrant herself. Calls people with less than her "Neanderthals" 18:39
@@oriolo99 yes she does. just goes to show how she feels about people who don't agree with her
This was painful to watch. The teacher took her to school, but she didn't learn a thing.
Fools never listen. They only wait to speak.
Bravo
If I could, I would give you an award for this comment.
So odd. What did you see that I didn’t. I saw an intellectual debate . And I really enjoyed that. What did you see?
It’s hard to argue with someone who has already thought everything through to the end.
That last part is deep. As someone honest. If he isn’t remembered as honest our fate was less than fortunate in the end. Taking into account that total fascism is the result of dishonesty on a scale that requires mass delusion due to all the lies.
Glad I took the time to watch this again after all these years. A reminder as to why I started listening to JP in the first place. I think the work he has done is incredible and he will be remembered as a great in his field, the amount of work he has done expanding jungs work and presenting it to the public is incredible.
Her smug questioning is so insulting. She is doing to him what she would detest if the roles were reversed.
She was womansplaining
That's what feminists want tho, they want for men to suffer.
@Alucard *Dr. Peterson, but yes, your point stands.
That's the way she thinks. She us promoting what she's so called fighting against. Makes zero sense.
Roland Wimmer it's tragic. So sad. So against how God intended our relationships to be.
"That's your theory?"
"Yeah"
"That's a foolish theory"
I'm dead hahahhaha
I was crying when I heard that 🤣🤣🤣 omg he's such a savage
“Do you think you’d be less angry if you weren’t on Twitter?”
Absolutely. Deleting my account did wonders for my mental health.
same here, twitter is for people with a 70 iq and lower
social media is pure poison.
people are addicted to it.
getting rid of social media was extremely liberating for me. i recommend it to everyone.
@@Emorphiamusic but youtube is social media...
Twitter is byfar the worst out of the social medias in my opinion, probably that and FB, but both are so toxic and I see the effects on. people all the time. Its crazy
@@5people829 yea.. true.
but i ment like twitter/fb/ig.
youtube is slightly less poisoned .. for now.
I'm a 44 year old mother of two boys and I adore Jordan Peterson. He's so smart and compassionate. How can someone not see that?
Sadly, Ms. Corazon, a good number of people "fail" to see what you see; further to that, another good number of people PURPOSELY CHOOSE NOT TO SEE IT, because that is at cross-purposes to their need to RAIL AGAINST what JP "fights for"...
she made me want to buy his books
His books are great
I normally only read nonfiction as he said but been thinking about getting his book too.
@@likeorasgod I'm not sure which book you're talking about, but I doubt his book(s) are fiction.
Buy Peterson's books and not buy hers. I can't wait to buy Paterson's books and I can't wait not buy this woman's books. This woman who is so genetic, I can't even remember her name!
mic drop lol great comment
I am not buying her book but I am buying two copies of his book, one for reading and the other copy to make him richer.
Would be a great gift
@@sov19871987 would like but you got 69 likes i dont want to ruin that
What he wants is making people wiser, not him richer
Fernando, I adore the way you think.
i second that
I am not buying her book....thanks a lot Jordan my man.....
I'm 40 and for quite a few years I was addicted to Xanax. I beat that addiction and a couple years later I started drinking fairly heavy. Me and my wife had our first child may 16th (about 3 weeks ago). I really respect what Jordan has gone through because Ive been there and I'm still there. The ideas Jordan shares about responsibility family and a mans role ect... Has been a part of my motivation to quit drinking. Ill never understand why people hate him so much. All ive ever seen him do is express how important personal responsibility and freedom is. These people that see themselves as victims perpetually and blame society for things in their lives that can be fixed quite easily if they would just try. Drive me crazy. They blame everyone but themselves. Of course everyone should have equal rights and we have that in the west. Everyone has the freedom to speak their mind and change their own lives. There is no reason to ever force anyone to think or believe like you do no matter how good your ideas are. Jordan is one of the very few people that fight back against our societies that try to force other people to believe and espouse toxic political ideas. Even if every eventually is forced to believe in feminism and victimhood it will in no way help the people they claim they want to help. The only way to fix these things is to make sure we are treated equally in the eyes of the law and try and promote and provide opportunities for everyone. Not special demographics.
I thought this was going to be a discussion, not a Jordan Peterson jujitsu black belt exhibition.
He is the Royce Gracie of psychology
Infotainment 😂😂😂😂😂
hahahaha he seriously dominated that exhibition!
IMO, Jordan is not at his best here (or maybe it was edited to appear that way), sometimes interrupting, angry?, making some unqualified statements. Helen often showing more patience. But if the topics here are of some interest, maybe watch some other Peterson like: th-cam.com/video/zQCTeGKHsVc/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/hKUffHXOb8U/w-d-xo.html
This is SUCH a brilliant discussion. Thank goodness he is spreading the word and standing up for men and women. How great would it be for more of these conversations to take place.
“I can’t wait to NOT buy her book”- a Prophet
Lets get this comment back to the top guys!!
@@Mechanicalpills becuase somehow this wasn't a solid example of what she spoke about in her book. WTF are you saying. Lol
You might need her book. With luck the pages will be Charmin soft, you know, just in case there is another shortage.
This is so funny 🤣🤣.
Best part of this whole -pathetic attempt at an intellectual lynching- interview was at 1:08:34, when Peterson says: "I'm not hearing what you think; I'm hearing how you're representing the ideology you were taught. And it's not that interesting, because I don't know anything about you. I could replace you with someone who thinks the same way, and that means you're not here; that's what that means."
Jordan Peterson, in his own way, just branded Helen Lewis as an NPC.
I find this very funny
this comment is gold
I feel like that's a very important statement he made. I want to know about people and what they actually think. I want to represent my ideologies as I believe and understand them, not as I was taught.
Gold star for you
Bravo 👏
I’ll never tire of listening to this interview, especially the beginning when Jordan responds with, “READ MORE!” It still gives me goosebumps everywhere & it sends shivers right up & down my spine like nothing else! 5 years ago Dr. Jordan Peterson had 1.4 million followers on TH-cam. As of June 28, 2024, he now has 8 MILLION FOLLOWERS & COUNTING! You’re a great man & mentor to millions Jordan, we love & adore you! ♥️🇨🇦 0:30
this Peterson is freaking genius. Keep speaking truth, seeking truth, and fighting for it with reason and logic.
What exactly is genius about him. I’ve never heard anything remarkable come out of his mouth. It’s like people saying Depak Chopra is a genius. Maybe it’s because people in Canada are some of the stupidest people on the planet
Agreed, except when it comes to the moon landings and the faking of going to space.
@@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081 I live in Canada and although I agree with his stance on human interactions he is completely out of touch when it comes to faking space or believing that man landed on the moon.
All Canadians are not indoctrinated.
@@mysticnomad3577 You could be right, I haven't looked into the moon landing, and the moon landing was not even on my radar with what I was talking about lol
@@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081 Understood.
I like Jordan but when he was on Joe Rogan talking about it he had no ammunition supporting his stance.
Not everyone is perfect.
Don't let this die. I CAN'T WAIT TO NOT BUY HER BOOK!
yes! never read anything you disagree with!
Maybe they disagree with her?
😅
@@gabrielfoskett4262 you are sarcastic right?
@@Silhouettecos obviously
jp: this
lady: do you mean that?
jp: no i mean this
lady: but why do you think that
jp: but i don’t think that, i think this
lady: let’s move on
Exactly.
Oh good. I was hoping there would be a summary LoL
Very true!
Trying to make the same arguments as Kathy Newman doesn't work better simply by drawing them out longer. Changing how an errant argument is worded doesn't make it suddenly right.
this happened forever ago and its not okay.... okay... hows does that change anything. by looking at something that was wrong and now fixed... im worried history will repeat itself.... but it hasent and it wont and it can not.... but what if it did it would be wrong because of *listing a bunch of things that have no relevancy whatsoever at all .. with strong opinions about how things that took place before she was even born and will never happen again ... are wrong ... ---i cannot stand her im soooo happy jp put her in her place.. and shes so annoying. you can tell hes annoyed and kept serious composure in order to attack her accusations with pure intellect
Jordan Peterson: is just amazing 😊
I love this...❤
I'm not sure she noticed it or not, but that interview was mostly, her being in a psychotherapy session.
Madnek Drug rehab session?
Completley agree with you
He is literally too smart for her to keep up with. This is…. One of the most incredible verbal beat downs of competence I have ever seen in my life.
This wasn't a rap battle. Her interview style is phenomenal. She was able to escalate and de-escalate the heat of the conversation as she desired, he was clearly in control of the flow of the conversation. He is also a phenomenal interviewee and I respect a lot of the things he has to say. This was a very even balance in fact. This wasn't meant to be a battle of the brains.
*she was clearly in control...
@@onehumanwoman I understand you can relate to her but this was embarrassing since this was who they sent to challenge this man they need to send a woman who doesn't listen or talk with their emotions
@Mu D nope, she was straight up rude, and she kept deleting comments that is against her
@Mu D She did interrupt him tons of times, and she talked over him a bunch of times as well. Not saying she was bad, but what you are saying is wrong, she did interrupt, she was not tolerant, and she lacked the ability to argue based on the facts he pretended. And again, she was not bad.
"We aren't close to putting people in prison for jokes."
"What about that guy with the pug."
"That wasn't a joke."
Jesus these people are frightening
Many people have warned us about this outcome. Jordan and many others tried to talk us out of this, but it's too late.
It has become quite obvious that speech is being restricted because those who've taken advantage of the freedom of the press and the first amendment are the last barriers to a full leftist authoritarian regime.
@@walkerjus “it’s quite obvious speech is being restricted” what? By online PRIVATE companies that make their own rules? Are you referring to trumps Twitter ban somehow infringing on the 1st amendment? If so, using the Republican view point, they’re a private company, with private rules, upon creating an account you abide by those rules and they can ban whomever they want for whatever they want. Go create your own platform.
@@nineaxis9941 That's an awfully convoluted way of saying you support suppression of freedom of speech as long as you disagree with the other person.
@@nineaxis9941 Which rule did he break?
@@nineaxis9941 Are you saying that private companies can ignore basic human constitutional rights? That's all kinds of bigoted thinking that is galaxy level.
In retrospect, knowing the health crisis he is going through during the time this interview was done, this man is incredible. His precision with word choice and ability to follow an argument and stay on topic even though the host constantly pivots anytime she feels pressed on a point he is making. It’s incredible. This man is a genius. Not only a genius but beyond patient, humble AND gracefully explains every point he makes regardless of how she try’s to so blatantly portray him in a terrible way.
Actually, at least comments is enabled, I shall respect the channel for that.
The BBC is disgraceful for disabling their video's comments...
Especially when they advertise "have your say".
The BBC realised they are so far off public opinion they had to censor speech rather than changing their despicable behaviour.
@@suzesiviter6083 v for vendetta suddenly feels like a potential reality
Same in Australia with the ABC
Indeed v for vendetta does seem like a plausable outcome in the present times, it wouldnt even need that many people to over throw a government.
blagh mrblafh this is GQ though...
I’m surprised they haven’t disabled the comments yet.
they can't. It would mean they're wrong.
Be glad
The problem with her is she came up with a script which she thought were his weakest areas but he rebutted them perfectly and at some points he appeared to be the one interviewing her.
I swear they forget he is a professor and a well rounded one at that, first foremost.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus I think the same.
He's never lost for an educated response. He knows his stuff. I like that he does command respect with his answers. I think interviewers end up respecting him more in the end.
If there were more conservatives like him who are NOT AFRAID to boldy oppose radical nonsense ... we be a LOT better off today!!!
@@gerrilanter1965 jp isn't a conservative. Like Trump he is in what used to be the middle but the extreme radical left now refer to it as the "far right" to delude their viewers. Thinking for yourself and using facts regardless of emotions is now frowned upon.
At 52:30 why did they cut that part of the conversation?! I wanted to hear their discussion. Now I wonder how much more points they cut from this interview. 🙄
I love how he says there's no point in talking to you because I know what you're going to say she says prove it and he does.
I am so grateful we have such a large fount of information that is easy and free for us to soak up. JP is incredible!
Why are the both of us fighting amongst ourselves WHEN WE CAN UNITE AND DESTROY OUR ENEMIES FROM THE CENTER!?!?! >:D
Troll face is a genius except what is the center exactly?
@@dluap75 I'd like to know what tge center is too
Left is Liberals, Right is Nazis.. Center is Globalists dogs? :/
If you think he's good, listen to RooshV
1:09:13
JD "It's not good that I know where you stand on issues once I know a few things"
HL "I bet you don't know where I stand on all things...What do you think I think about transgender issues?"
JP "I suspect that you think gender expression, gender identity, are fundamentally social constructs"
1:09:56
HL "It [gender identity] is largely, but not entirely, socially constructed"
So yea...Peterson did accurately predict what Lewis thinks about gender identity.
Brazzers: Peterson DESTROYS feminist!
SO, when she slams into these intelligence speed bumps, shatters windows and blows out her tires: She never makes any noise or expression that indicates that there is anything at all functioning behind her eyes. WOOOSHH... Like at 1:08:55 when he is finally forced to, amazingly politely, rip her spine out and lay it on the floor(so to speak) it's like she is not there or not receiving input... Or maybe it's like when W. was reading to those kids on 911 and he couldn't get up to do anything until his pants had dried ... Is she playing it off? I've never met one gambling addict who couldn't explain how they were ahead of the game on money. Even the homeless ones. Her brain is going to release so much dopamine if she can regurgitate one idio-logically consistent proposition that it is worth the payoff. Like The Black Knight in The Holy Grail. Charging at him on bloody stumps, diving on his sword because she already knows she is the invincible hero...
rhizomeman I know right! She lied, and said that ‘no she didn’t really think that they are social constructs, and then a few sentences later she admits to thinking that they are a ‘social construct!’ What a deceitful cow.
Once you hear one SJW you’ve heard them all.
@@WeAreWafc someone else said this same this exact comment. You're acting just as ideological as they do and Peterson constantly denounces this sort of behavior. Stop dude wtf. You're literally not making any argument you're just trying to hurt people.
Helen: "Do you want to eat women?!"
Jordan: "You might wanna taste them"
That's the punch line for me.
I just about died laughing.
Bruh I read this exactly a minute before he said it! 😂😂😂
where in that did he say that??
HOW YOU GUYS GONNA QUOTE THAT AND NOT TIME STAMP!?!
Here you all go. Here is the timestamp 50:47
Every once in a while I come back to watch this masterpiece.
We have a project going to see if anyone can find a spot where JP outsmarted Helen. So far no one can find one.
3 years later, who is still enjoy people making fool of themselves with so much determination?
ME!
hey there, third time i view this, just a reminder that intelligent and articulate people exists
I’ve honestly watched this 15-20 times. When he tells her she’s ideologically possessed I grin ear to ear. That may be the best minute on TH-cam
I highly recommend the discussion between Sargon and Thomas Smith. Even if you don’t like Sargon, like me, it is very fun to watch
😂🤣🤣💀💀
Speaking as a woman, I find Dr. Peterson's writings and lectures are meaningful for me. And I'm watching on TH-cam.
“I can’t wait not to buy her book “. GQ deleted this comment around several times now. Let’s keep this comment alive.
I think this was a very good interview. One reason why is that they both stood their ground but respected the conversation, they cared for what was said.
6:44 "If you hire a plumber who's likely to be male, it's not because there's roving bands of tyrannical plumbers forcing you to make that choice..." hahahahahaha Jordan's wit cracks me up so much... and she didn't even chuckle. pshh
@Juliana Silva Hmmmmm.... interesting analysis.
Lol it was hillarious
He is as hilarious as a f art. Men laugh at f arts. Women.... not so much. Ask the lobsters.
@Juliana Silva If you can't find the humour in the term "roving bands of tyrannical plumbers", then I suspect humour ain't your thing. At least not good humour.
@@hebber1961 Women aren't particularly known for comedy that is outside the self
JP: You're an ideologue and your beliefs are totally predictable...
Interviewer: Yeah RIGHT! Then what do I think about transgender issues?
JP: *pauses* I suspect you think gender identity is a social construct.
Interviewer: I believe that gender identity is only 99% social construct - GOTCHA HAHAHAHAHAHA!
This starts around 1:09:13 for anyone who wants to see it
Lol, funny how she tried to side step that, then right after admit she believes it's a social construct. She just didn't want to admit he knows exactly where she stands on multiple issues without having to ask her because she has never had an original thought in her life.
Why do you laugh about a complex issue that requires a considered and complicated answer? Neither has made a joke.
Mic drop
It’s strange to me why no one answered the argument about woman changing name after marriage.
It’s not about “ownership”, it’s represent a fact that woman now belong and represent another family and most importantly she will inherit all assets of that family.
She fails at every attempt to bait him. Peterson is always ready. She is in over her head with Peterson. And it shows.
It's because these people use cookie cutter tactics. They are insanely predictable.
He’s always on guard to it now. Man is too smart to be caught off guard.
Lol she had moped prepared. He didn’t. Did anyone see how long he waited to reply sobetimes?
"you also talk about Nietzsche who was also favored by the nazis" ... come on lady
@Sarah Die Well, and remember how he said that Nietzsche's sister misinterpreted his works after his death as well. I do remember reading that in a political ideology book I had for class but I don't believe it went into great detail as to what exactly she misinterpreted.
sounds like something her favourite feminsts columnist said or her university professor.
Ignorance is bold. And mother of fanaticism (intellectual blindness, if you prefer)
Agreed. A prime example of grasping at straws and intellectual LAZINESS. I truly believe she's smarter than that. Ideology clouds the minds.
I think a lot of the comments are missing the mark on this one. She clearly demonstrated her reasons for bringing it up as a parallel to perceptions of him and whether he felt any responsibility for misuse/misinterpretation of his own words. As I'm sure we've all seen dozens of poorly-informed incels and other people within the alt-right sphere worshiping Peterson for "owning" feminists and other left-leaning ideologues, the question of whether or not he took any responsibility wasn't a reach at all.
His response itself showed that, as he was very quick to point out and correct misinterpretation but ultimately admitted to feeling a measure of responsibility for it.