Slater Brown he didn't but he is the first person. I've heard articulate why I try to live my life the way I do. I guess my parents, and schooling imprinted these things without me really understanding why. My biggest wake up has been, that not everyone has ever been told these things.
If you told me 15 years ago... that I'd be listening to the guy from fear factor, speaking to a Jungian Canadian superstar, during the presidency of Donald Trump...and having one of the most transformative internal debates within myself I would say, bullshit. Yet here we are. I made my bed this morning, threw out my cigarettes, whiskey and beer. Good luck everyone.
Its a pretty strange time. Im right there with you. Just think though, we have this guy for probably 30 more years. One of us could be the next Jordan Peterson too.
From 1:17:00 and that next 7 minutes really spoke to me - hating essays in school BECAUSE the subjects assigned were of zero interest. Decades passed, I became a journalist/essayist, refining and clarifying my thoughts "on paper", exploring subjects that I was passionate about, even if it was for an audience of one. I am so grateful to have had one or two moments in my life where someone has thanked me for being the catalyst for their own self-improvement. They did the hard work but they were thanking me... so humbling.
Listening to JP is becoming so much more interesting, intriguing and wholesome than church services on Sunday...If you listen well enough, its so much better!!....Such a blessing this man is to mankind....Pastors and reverends...take notes!!!.....
I've identified two problems. There are probably more. 1. The most significant problem is that >95% of churches are feminist. They redact whole sections of the Bible because they offend modern feminist sensibilities, their sensibilities. Feminism and Christianity are not merely mutually exclusive; they are in a battle to the death. When churches become feminist, the Word is corrupted, and they become heretical. 2. They self-censor to avoid losing their 501c3 tax exemption. Churches have submitted to government bribery and censorship.
I guess it depends who you listen to on Sundays. I've had that same feeling in the past too, but it went away once i started to listen to pastors who did expository preaching so well, that i was eager to hear the rest of the message. And of course, it also helps that later in life, i went from cultural Christian to someone who truly believes in Jesus Christ. It made the Sunday messages much more interesting, once i had love for who the message was about.
MindSmash hey can you cover some side videos with people like Dr. Peterson you cover things very well so I would love to hear what you think of motivational people like him thank I love your videos to by the way my favorite is the one about DC and his child
I think sometimes about Peterson's wife. I recently saw the documentary on Peterson on amazon prime and she says she has "lost her husband to the world". I would assume because of all the time it takes up for his (what I would call) crusade. She has stood by him and "been a great help". I think maybe both Jordan and Tammy Peterson have made considerable sacrifices for our benefit. For that I am grateful.
I love no interruptions. Just being able to listen and not reach for the pass , so I could just listen and close my eyes and get comfortable. Thank you so much.
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I’m not religious more of a Christopher Hitchens person but I like JP because he argues well in the philosophical way. Has great independent thinking, and shares this, encouraging others, knows his subject, doesn’t stand nonsense, has a deep caring, talks about subjects others wouldn’t. Always worth listening to.
yeah but i've never understood how religious people fall so short then. they fly planes into our buildings and kill 7000 people... that's obviously what the bible says NOT to do...i'm sure it also states the same in whatever "book" like the Koran and any other volume. so , given that, why are religious people murderous beyond belief? even if they don't KILL anyone, they still picket gay funerals, they still step over the homeless person dressed in their best sunday suit to hypocritically show off their piety. given all that, i'd have to agree with Hitchens, that religion poisons EVERYthing. when we can actually golden rule our lives, i'll swallow your religion whole. but since that IS NOT what i see happening when our preists diddle little boys, then avoid procecution and relocate to another field where they can repeat it. there should be no such thing as a rich church, yet the vatican has more gold than morals in any case. so we follow the "book" as interpeted any way we want to , you know, to break the rules stated clearly, but doesn't apply to them at all. they also shouldn't be tax free just because they were taught religion while their brains were still soft at age 5
As a theologically conservative, conventionally religious Christian, I must stress that Jordan Peterson's Christianity isn't Christianity in any historically meaningful sense. He is a Jungian who borrows Christian imagery and applies his own meanings to it. I enjoy Dr Peterson's material for the most part, but he's causing confusion about what Christianity is. For those of us concerned with doctrinal orthodoxy, we have a lot of trouble with Dr. Peterson's use of Christian symbolism. Lest it be said that this is an issue of interpretation, Biblical scholars, linguists and the like can demonstrate where Dr. Peterson and Mr. Pageau err in their understanding of the text, so the issues are matters of fact rather than interpretation.
Introduced a 17 year-old student to Dr Peterson's podcasts as he was a self described nihilist and very deep thinker. He look so sad the day I met him. He said life was not worth living. I was concerned for him. There appeared to be a darkness in his face as we talked and he seemed without hope. I saw him again yesterday. Wow different young guy. Standing taller, happier, there was a light in his face... He couldn't wait to share he was still listening to Dr Peterson's talks and was really enjoying them. I am so grateful I had something to offer him that first day I met him that made a difference to him.
ian giovanni Ya like the cult of mindless trolls you belong to who dedicate their lives to leaving negative comments on positive comments such as this one.
@Curtis Beardsley Are you trying to say that taking responsibility in life is a form of escapism? Just when I thought demon world couldn't get any more retarded.
@Curtis Beardsley You can't accept true hardship and responsibility until you understand what life is. You failed the test of this life before you even started. Enjoy devolving from light into eternal darkness. Peak irony calling someone else smooth brain 🤣
@Curtis Beardsley i dont think youre understaning what he is saying, idk maybe im wrong but what i beleive he means by that is to GIVE your life meaning! I Can say for a fact that taking on more responsibility has done wonders for my family, My mental health, and my overall satisfaction with my life. I dont know know how much this may mean to you but im in the USMC, and I joined bc i felt going to school and just "going through the steps" was killing me. I wasnt happy and that led to me being bitter towards everyone and everything but ik that i could do more and i WANTED to do more so I joined and plan to continue school eventually and im doing all of this to help as many people as i can yk? I took on more responsibility and im so damn happy I did! please dont take this as me being an asshole to you, actually think about it. Im also not saying Jordan Peterson is a god or something but from experience from this one quote i think he might be right but thats just my opinion.
Last night, I fell asleep watching bible stories, and woke up around 2:00 am to this video. It sounded so interesting , I was almost tempted to get up and watch it, but i made a mental note to watch later. I did not know it would be so long, but once I started listening , I was immersed into the deep, thoughtful conversations. I normally listen to music on the ride to take the kids to school, but this was hooked up to the bluetooth . Even my 14 and 6 year old sons were engaged. This is rare. Two absolutely brilliant minds. I enjoyed the way they literally complemented each other. There were so many gems dropped, I had to take notes📝
It's captivating because it is a revelation that is being suppressed, and those who are outside of politics can resonate with it. It's the God D*** truth!
Since discovering Jordan Peterson online and watching his videos, I got myself out of dead end retail work and into IT. I enjoy my work, I'm studying a lot to get qualified to move up in my new career, passed my driving test and I'm on the road. Im 29. Should not have taken me this long. Getting your act together and throwing some effort into the world is incredibly rewarding. Not just my professional life, but my personal life too. Just gotta tidy my room now...
Best of luck to you friend, I'm on the same path from retail into IT, just started 2 weeks ago and it's amazing how quickly it all unfolded once I made my mind up and cleaned my room so to speak. Jordan has been a breeze of fresh air to my existence, much needed and longed for. Keep going friend, best of luck!
More interesting than your teacher teaching in mosque. He is a Christian, and that's haram for muslims. Your religions like segregation and that's for y'all
@@PharmacySpiritshe's not, he's maybe too serious but what can he do? You can't not be serious when you have the role that he has, otherwise his message would not be received
This man has changed my life I was an addict I started listening to his seminars I got myself off pills started going to school for my CDL license It took two years I failed alot but I stuck with it I own my own home I'm about to get married and start a family I plan to teach my son or daughter the same values he taught me
Wow! How did I not see this until today? For being 4 years old it feels as though you are talking about what is currently happening! I am so thankful you stepped up!
I think he is a bit twisted (we all are, I guess), but well intentioned; doesn't make him or what he is saying an asset, but I think people mischaracterize him.
As every other human, he has his pros and cons, he is otherwise very polarizing. He has interesting ideas but he is really slow at recognizing failures or cognitive bias from his side (nothing wrong with that, everybody does it). I am kind of in the middle because he has some really interesting stuff to say but then he goes into religion (and other wacky stuff), when he obviously knows he has nothing on it, still he keeps pushing some themes which do not really resonate with everyone.
not really about "curing" its a product of biological insentives women are given at birth, which makes them more inclined to psychological issues as we see it today but if you go far enough back theres a biological reasoning behind why women are more proned to depression and anxiety and men more inclined for violent and anti social behaviour and yes, JP mentions this just wanted to point it out anywho
Was lucky enough to see this JRE, & the one with Jordan & Bret Weinstein, the first time around and it was truly a privilege to finally hear so many of my own uncondensed thoughts and feelings about the world articulated by such a wonderful speaker. We each of us lost our direction, our hope, and self-belief.....but at least partly, had it returned to us by Jordan being direct & honest, and not dumbing it down! A great few hours to relive! Enjoy!
Had the privilege to see Dr. Peterson last week in Detroit MI, it was worth every penny. I felt like a child on Christmas enjoying the lecture with my wife. God Bless you for all you do, Dr. Peterson spoke highly of Joe Rogan as well! Was a true blessing
My husband and I have tickets to see Dr. Peterson in Billings, MT in May and it's hard to wait!!! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it...but then, it's Jordan, so how can the event be anything but amazing, right?!! 😁 He is a treasure!
5M views for watching 2 people talking for 3+ hours, with both agreeing and dissenting views without shouting over each other, calling each other some kind of -ism/ist, and just having an actual normal discussion. This is what our country needs. Not hatred, not berating or denigrating each other, just having a personal conversation between an American and a Canadian(ehhh)
C G Russell Brand had him on his podcast and their communication dynamic was cordial. Russell gets goofy and funny but it was a great conversation. They covered different topics.
To be fair, this is two people who essentially share their fundamental world view and respect each other. It's not going to get heated. It's essentially an echo chamber. I agree with your overall sentiment though. It's amazing that content of this depth becomes this popular, when we've seen the trend media takes with short, click-baity videos and articles.
@@LCaaroe It may have to do with one of them being a traditional conservative and the other a traditional liberal. They are more central in their beliefs and can come together to discuss difficult subjects in a cordial manner. If you put even 1 polarized /extreme person in a conversation, typically nothing is learned because they are unwilling/insecure to accept any other views that contradict their own. We as people/countries/world need to meet in the middle to be able to actually HEAR/UNDERSTAND and enevidably LEARN about each other. Media/gov't are trying their hardest to polarize the world and they are winning at this point.. but I have faith we will see through this before it is too late.
I think these never stop. Or plate is shifting away from Europe at about the rate a fingernail grows, nearly two metres in a human lifetime. In 250million years, the earth may have only one continent. We are losing a lot of oceanfront, man!
Sometimes thoughts are traps that defeat meaning. Religion too. I've found seeing and examining the outside world makes one wise. Madness, shallowness and disdain, even "narcissism" come from thinking heavily. I contend, if one focuses on their logic, their idea of it, they can follow a mind-path of ideas and concepts into oblivion. This is the problem with many liberals and the far right.
Jordan Peterson is a very compassionate person who wants people to succeed as best they can. Yes, he may not be all cuddly but uses his intellect and speech. More people need to listen to this man.
Jordan Peterson is a pseudo psychologist who uses his theocratic beliefs to dismiss any criticism or disagreement as "marxist" or "leftist." There are millions of people out there who actually know what they preach, you should look for them, it will be enlightening.
Thank you for reminding me of my imperfection. Thank you for reminding me of my own role in my despair. I don't know how I let myself get this bad again, with my choices it was inevitable. I f'd around and found out again. I am cleaning up my room, making my bed, focusing on my diet, sleep and work more conscientiously. I pray it will be enough if I keep thinking critically and make the best of everything. Make the most of the present opportunities. Never allowing myself to feel above doing what needs doing. Thank you again Jordan, and thank you again Joe for another great podcast/interview. Really useful stuff.
Although I’m not that bright myself, I’m loving this shift towards smart educated brains becoming mega stars instead these brain dead people on reality tv.
Brad Boetig the best way to understand the value of iq, is that iq is your ability to learn. I have a friend who I have known for a while. He was the opposite of a smart guy in highschool but when he got to college he delved deep into expanding his knowledge. He is one of my smartest friends now. He is someone with a low IQ who is smarter than most people I know with higher IQ.
That might be true to you, but for the most people in the world that just isn't true. If you are poor and you family has been poor for generations, there is generally very very little that you can do for that - even in the 1st world coutries.
@@thomasandersen5349 the main thing I noticed about both men is they never talk over anyone. They have what is called a "conversation", instead of just waiting for their turn to speak. They both try to address problems from a positive and compassionate POV and even offer solutions.
I'm gonna save you some time. Find any old innane self-help crap, add missunderstood biology, politics, economy and pop-psych. Dust with bits of madness and romanticizing aristocracy and boom.
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More than 5 millions of views for two guys talking during more than 3 hours. This is how strong those statements are resonating with a whole generation of human beings. That's huge bro.
and 0 of the 5 million watched the video in its entirety. people take bits and pieces that reinforce pre existing beliefs. What cultivates a belief is a traumatic experience. meaning is hinged on a persons experiences, and the meanings they relate to those experiences. nobody will change their opinion by watching these podcasts.
@@JackJackKcajify I think you're speaking for yourself. Many people listen to the entire discussion. Maybe nothing changes for you because you never see anything through to the end. Hundreds of thousands of people also read books by the likes of Peterson.
I make my bed every morning now. My eating style is changing. I expect more of myself, and others, and my conversations. My life is getting deeper and more interesting. Thank you, gentleman! From a middle age, white, American woman....
As I read through most of the comments , it becomes clear that I'm part of something big and something truly of value . I want to be smarter and wiser , and also more aware of what's actually going on in the world . tHANKS
Hey there, Mr. Peterson... I am so glad that you mentioned your daughter's diet. I too break out with rash when eating strawberries, oranges, and pineapple. Last night I popped a vitamin C tablet and all night I was experience serious leg cramping. Thinking back, the same cramping occurred when drinking orange juice and eating strawberry preserves. I'm putting two and two together... Vitamin C is toxic for my health. I never would have thought of it if you hadn't discussed your daughter. I can't thank you enough!
Joe Rogan reflects all the guests he has on, not just JP... just look at his attire change when he talks to MMA guys, hunters, scientists, and celebrities.... we all do it subconsciously
Same here. I always wondered if i'm an ignorant because I don't care about our country's politics. With Jordan, i found out that i choose to not engage in political conversations because people here are so one-sided when they do talk about it.
Keep trying. You'll find at least one person eventually. One great thing about life is that once you meet a person, there's a million other people out there who have a lot of the same traits. There's people like Jordan and Joe all over the place hiding in plain sight, waiting for you to engage in an interesting conversation with them.
I cleaned my room and it was incredibly empowering. It had been messy for a year. It was gross, to be honest. Now it's clean and I feel like it uncluttered my mind as well. Like the state of my room was an extension of the state of my mind. Edit: I didn't clean it because JP told me to, it was just relevant to this podcast.
non-western people.... always trying to put leashes on women and children. Damn bro, I bet your room is a travesty and your family system is akin to new age slavery. Peace be upon you...Love, Jesus.
Part of that is cleaning a little every day. It's something I struggle with as well. It's so "easy" to just drop something on a chair or leave it on a desk rather than put it away. Which contributes to clutter. Part of this folds back to the personal responsibility and how we go about managing our responsibilities, first to ourselves and then moving out from there. I'm not great at it either, hell I keep trying to get the motivation to start working out to improve myself, it's hard and I find myself pushing on all sorts of margins trying to be better. It's hard. It sucks. It's also rewarding.
Must have been really refreshing to Dr. Petersen when he was on a show and the person opposite him didn't constantly interrupt him and actually contributed to the conversation.
Jordan's mind is so great not to mention his humility and love for humanity and great understanding of how law has no business in decisions pertaining to how people communicate and how they perceive others.
I deleted my social media, and stopped watching the mainstream news once I got accustomed to longform podcasts and debates. It's so refreshing and educational. I'll be honest, in the past I would have rather thrown my TV out the window than watch 3 hours of their "news". This is where progress is made, and people can actually learn. Well done.
@UncleJemima420 For sure. Whats crazy to me, is that after deleting my social media, I would still reflexively open my phone and look for Facebook at dozens of moments throughout the day. (maybe more) Almost like any time there wasn't enough stimulus in my immediate environment, I would just go there by default and tune out the world. After a few weeks, I quit doing that and I noticed that I feel so much more aware of my surroundings. It sounds super stupid maybe...but like, I travel a lot for work and I notice people/animals/things...what they're doing around me. I feel like giving it up has not only reduced my stress, but lifted a burden off my mind. I don't need to come up with any snappy one liners. I don't need a "current/trendy" Facebook profile pictures. It's been super good =)
I never have used fb/twitter other than once to check an exotic pet shop page (fb) . Couldn't see the point & why everyone was obsessed with it. People used to look amazed when I said I wouldn't do it. I'm so glad I didn't as toxicity can be addictive. (I do put the odd stupid comment on TH-cam so not perfect)
Yeah he does give white men a kinda safe place in his podcast , dont mind me i'm a big fan of his 12 ways to better your life thingy , but u gotta question the paradoxical nature that white men victimising the left in going to safe places basically do the same thing
@UncleJemima420 Again i agree with everything u said , i like his books and his thoughts about life and how to make it better ,what i dislike is his argument about IQ and race , it tries to promote white supremacy when a cultural thing would be the right argument eg. Asian americans(Chinese & indians) are most sucessful & rich per person in usa but u would think looking at the state of India & china that wouldnt be the case . he boderline calls black american dumb & unsuccesgul by genes which is absolutely stupid , the argument for african americans being unsuccesful can be attrbuted to cultural phenomenon of single mother raising kids no father around , having a drug problem in black culture & hating authority
Not necessarily. He is saying it's the best system we got but it's flawed and we need to figure out how to improve it. As he sees it right now the best way is to improve the individual.
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg The fact that you had to resort to name calling and bending and exaggerating what Dr. Peterson said already proves that you don't have a valid point. Also since the things you said weren't even remotely true, I think that especially shows how lost you are in this argument.
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg Again, you're just throwing insults and bending the view/opinion of the person you don't agree with. Sure, you can say I'm worshiping JP and call me a kid. But in the end, that doesn't do anything other than put me down and make me feel like my opinion is invalid, at least I assume that's what you're trying to do. Anyways, I would try to change your mind about JP but I doubt an arguement/debate online will make a difference. So sry you feel that way, but hey, we all have a right to our opiniond. So cya and have a good life.
This dude makes me wanna lift weights as I think about a problem I'm working on, in order to get tired enough to need a nap... ...just so I get to make my bed again.
Go lift weights then! No one at the gym is going to judge you, it’s all in your head. I was a lank 6’2” 155. 14 months later I’m now 200lbs. All you have to do is go. Just tell yourself no bullshitin, nose to the grindstone. No excuses anymore.
I went for a walk with this podcast and it took exactly 3hr 20min from door to door through streets and parks. What a Saturday to remember! Very enjoyable
I've watched this many times and every time Rule 4 comes up it reminds me of what my grandfather said personally to me knowing how depressed I am. I wrestle with it in my head all the time. He said "I understand the power of stagnation you're suffering. Funny thing about the fog depression puts you in *haha*, you forget.... Imagine if you were as you are now and didn't feel this way... What a waste right?" Knowing you're capable will propel you to greatness. Depression is the catalyst of true growth. I cant shake that saying years later.
they only thing more funny then people complaining about inequality is the Wars and Racism the Republicans have gone out of there way to embrace to avoid the responsibility of governance
@@chuckecheese5251 For some reason your statement makes me want to go to an arcade and play video games. Maybe it's because it has the same relevance to the topic at hand.
Like my son would say thereChuckieBob, you sound a bit butthurt, maybe I could make your face hurt instead. Naw, just kiddin, we all need to meet in the middle and get a new game plan, eh !
I talk about Peterson with people all the time. I was pretty down when I discovered him, it's only been about 2 months but I've made a lot of progress with my mindset and I'm going back to school in the spring God willing. I've started being more honest with others, but mainly with myself. Not only did he make me want to better myself, but he took the stress out of person setbacks because I no longer have to be my own hostage.
I find it hard to describe why i like him and what his doing...how do u speak about him? I strugle sometimes to undestand him, i dont know how to talk like him
Jordan’s breakdown of Joe’s strengths was so: 1. True 2. Extremely well thought-out 3. Well-articulated 4. Weirdly heartwarming There’s something in here that is indicative of how to give a good compliment. I think Jordan acts out what he describes in his lectures about the one who ascends to the top has eyes all around his head (pays attention) and speaks magic words (uses well-articulated and effective speech). He really paid attention to Joe, broke down why he’s successful, and then effortlessly stated it back to him in a really genuine way. Think if we all did this with those in our lives.
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I’m torn. On the one hand I know we could use more of Dr. Peterson’s wisdom. On the other hand he shouldn’t have to burden all of this evil. Besides telling the truth, and following his advice, what can we do to help him and help each other? Take care of yourselves.
We better ourselves and continue passing the torch. We need to continue to educate ourselves and be open-minded. Ill admit, ive been listening to JP like hes the messiah lately and I need to diversify.
Sounds like a fantastic opportunity to take on more responsibility in our individual lives the best way we can! He's given the answer to just this question! I feel the same way I'm regards to him stepping back into the spotlight for sure.
This is SUCH helpful advice. I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease and I gained 50lbs. Obviously I wanted to loose all of that right off the bat and kept struggling. But now I’ve set my goal at 5lbs at a time. And I’ve lost 20 so far when I set the bar lower! I also want to own my own salon but I knew I couldn’t do that right away. So I went out independently and rented a booth. Now I have a clientele. Now I’m looking into entrepreneurial corses. And slowly building my credit score. Baby steps. 🙌🏻🙌🏻
small obtainable goals, n you eventually get there. Way too many of us set ourselves up for failure far too often, we're then also our best critic in the process. Leaving us stuck, listening to the corrupted voice in your head. said voice got much better after leaving social media in 2014 though. our brains simply aren't built for the constant consumption of division.
Imagine if you improved your vocab at a rate of 1% increase per day and you even slacked for 4 times a week, God knows just how much better you'll become over the course of 1 year
The first time I came across Jordan Peterson I was looking up something to do with motherhood as I was trying to navigate through some difficult aspects of motherhood. I came across a video of him talking about women and men in terms of parenting and I think he was talking about how kids need the mom to be their primary attachment more than the dad and I can't remember what else he said but whatever it was it helped me at the time with struggles I was having with motherhood. There was a mom group I was in on Facebook and someone posted with a struggle they were having and it related to the video. I shared it and explained that it helped me and seemed relevant to her situation too. Then another mom commented and said "be careful. Jordan Peterson is a known misogynist. I wouldn't be looking into what he says too much." Or something along those lines. I replied that I had no idea who he was but I didn't get that at all from this particular clip and found what he said in it to be helpful so I still felt it was worth sharing and fine to share. The mom who originally posted also said that she didn't find it misogynistic at all and that it helped her and she appreciated the message. Then I did more looking into him with the presupposition that he was a misogynist and keeping an eye out for that. It's been probably 3 years now and I watch a lot of his videos and understand them from the level he is speaking at, not from what he is often misconstrued as saying. The Cathy Newman video was super uncomfortable to watch, the way she attacked him relentlessly but it was amazing how he kept his cool. There are definitely some things that women have to go through that men can't fully understand the weight of, and I think that at times his delivery doesn't always portray that. But what he is seeing and trying to make a difference with is the things that men go through that women can't fully understand and that people dismiss or aren't even aware of at all. It's a very similar issue to racism in the sense that we can't just blame all white people for being the problem when most now are not contributing to the problem. But we do have to be aware and sensitive of the residual effects of past traumas and help and give space for the healing process. Without pushing white people down as oppressors. I've been hearing about young kids in schools being bullied just because they are white. And a mom who's son was experiencing this posted about her son dealing with racism and multiple people telling her that because her son is white then it isn't racism. The whole definition of racism is treating someone badly based on their race. But it's the same thing between men and women, now that women are no longer being repressed as we were in past years, there is a huge hate on men being oppressors and wanting to tear down men. We feel the collective past pain from the trauma that some women experienced. There is no denying that it was more commonplace years ago to beat your wife and treat her like your property. But it isn't fair to blame and condemn men who have done none of this, simply because they are male. And completely ignore the very real challenges that men today are facing, because it doesn't fit with the man hate style feminism that is popular right now. In some ways, it may be because he is trying to make a point against something that is seen as so concrete - the patriarchy - that he gets his back up and is more vehemently against it and doesn't mention any of the nuance where there have in the past been power struggles that caused many women to suffer, just the parts against it. (In lots if cases he does go into this, but in some he doesn't, especially when only clips are shown which in that case isnt his fault at all, just what others are showing of him). But it isn't quite as black and white as - women didn't have the right to vote because they didn't go to war. That is a fair point and absolutely women didn't have to do that which is a huge privilege, women dont want to do the dirty jobs mostly, there are tons of valid explanations he gives for the pay gap and voting and things like that. But there have definitely been ways where women were oppressed and treated as sub human. But again, not all men were acting that way and not all women were being treated that way universally. That may be where he loses some people, because it may seem that he is saying that women have it great and there is no oppression, when he says there is no patriarchy. But to me it seems that his main goal a lot of the time when speaking about men and women is to speak to what isn't being said. What most people aren't hearing or thinking of. Everyone knows women have been through some hard shit and treated in degrading ways but it's not that we have had things worse than men across the board or that it was all women all the time. And talk of the patriarchy generally lends to thinking of a few white men with all the money controlling everyone, but also men in charge in every profession and controlling all positions of power. What Jordan talks about with the statistics makes perfect sense and seems common sense. You pull someone off the street there is a certain percent chance they are stereotypical to their gender in terms of being more on the compassionate side or more on the analytical side, more chance on one side than the other but not a crazy amount. But you go to the top percent in each area and it will be overwhelmingly one gender occupying all the top spots. So it makes sense for men to gravitate towards certain jobs and women to gravitate towards others, and men to get paid more if they are working longer hours etc. Although it definitely hasn't always been that way either and in some places there ARE misogynist still treating women like they deserve less because of their gender. I was actually listening to Oprah talking about it the other day. About how when she was a news anchor the man that did the exact same job as her, same hours and everything, was being paid more and she confronted her bosses and they laughed her off and said she shouldn't be paid the same as him because she's a single female. Then when she had her own show she had female producers and wanted to give them a raise because they were being underpaid for the position and their response was "why? They're just girls!" It does happen, but not to the extent that todays feminists often make it seem. Anyways. I am a huge fan of Jordan Peterson and I love listening to him talk. It's heartbreaking to see how he has been vilified and his sole motivation is to help people and make a difference with his time here and DESPITE depression and all the physical obstacles he has had to face and being constantly misrepresented and vilified and attacked he STILL shows up for us and sacrifices his peace in the hopes it will help more people to live a better life. He is an absolute legend and yes he has faults like anyone but he does his absolute best to be aware of them and to work on them and be better and better all the time. Some of the ways I've seen people try to attack him (like the Cathy Newman interview) leave me wondering like have they never watched anything he's ever said before? Have they only ever seen snippets of him out of context and been told other people's smeary opinions of what he's trying to say? Lol so many people are on a manhunt to catch him saying something reprehensible. And also seem completely taken aback at his propensity to maintain a level head and challenge their stance against him lol he is fascinating to watch in those situations. The more I watch him, the more I understand where he's coming from and appreciate his perspectives and information.
Amazing how two people can coexist so gracefully on this insane podcast with twists and turns and yet we as a species fight tooth and nail for a minute inch of room and getting one over... TrueType inspired co verse gentleman much love 💪💪👍
That speech about how life isn't a game, and even a game isn't a game... I wish someone told me that in my troubled highschool years. Just wow. I just feel extremely lucky I heard it now rather than later. One of the very few "educators" I've come across. I'm definitely looking for his books tomorrow. Thanks Joe, for having this podcast.
The paradox of life is that life is a totally pointless game, and yet it must be played with dead seriousness. You must play the game as if your entire life depends on it, but you must also be conscious that the outcome doesn't matter at all.
Chung Junwoo I have 12 rules for life it's amazing I wish this book was available when i was 20. I'm 28 now but still very interesting and useful insight. I recommend the audiobook. I listen about 2+ hours a day between cleaning around the house and my daily work.commute.
00:15 - Peterson's huge lectures/discussions 1:58 - Peterson and Sam Harris 4:20 - The emergence of complex long form discussions/content 9:34 - Why is there a tendency to label public intellectuals as alt right, leftists etc (why is everything politics?) 14:33 - Are universities responsible for establishing norms/opinions that you cannot deviate form publically? 18:04 - How and why hierarchies arise in the psyche and the world 19:50 - Why there needs to be an ongoing conversation between the left and the right 22:18 - Peterson on writing the preface to The Gulag Archipelago and dividing the world into opressor and oppressed 27:07 - Why is left always associated in support of the gay right, all races all genders etc. Does that make them more virtuous? 34:56 - Equality of outcome 36:35 - What do you do with disspossed people (people with low IQ)? 38:06 - Radical left is compassion gone mad ...... and envy 41:19 - Life is not a game. It is a series of games 48:06 - how to behave when you lose 53:07 - Rule 4: Compare yourself to who were yesterday not to who someone is today (from Peterson's 12 Rules book) 01:01:42 - Why do you have to aim low to improve? 01:10:32 - Why is Peterson's book an antidote to chaos if chaos has so much potential? and being critically honest with yourself 01:16:20 - Why bother thinking? 01:18:14 - Meaning is an instinct and responsibility makes your life more meaningful 01:25:23 - Why is Jordan Peterson misrepresented so much? 01:31:33 - Incels and enforced monogamy 01:40:48 - Women are hypergamous 01:48:38 - The gender pay gap 01:51:31 - Tempramental differences between men and women 01:56:44 - Left wing people a motivated by compassion but also envy 01:59:48 - Who's the 1% ? 02:01:44 - Why are people opposed to challenging cultural norms ? 02:05:39 - Peterson's Vice interview and sexual behaviour in the workplace 02:17:14 - It isn't necessarily a mistake to lay yourself open to attack.....(Cathy Newman interview) 02:21:32 - Should Peterson stop doing interviews that'll be edited to avoid controversies? 02:23:58 - Peterson didn't plan to go from University proffesor to household name 02:27:13 - Why Joe Rogan is successful on youtube according to JP and technological revolution of speech being as good as written word 02:37:36 - 12 Rules for not allowed to be a New York Times best seller due to arbitrary rules 02:38:58 - Death spiral for a big organisation, click bait, and news becoming ideological 02:44:42 - JPs carnivore diet 02:57:24 - Why is everyone fat and stupid? 03:00:29 - Arthiritis and fasting 03:06:23 - Are dietry studies reliable ? 03:10:59 - Biological variability and diet 03:13:43 - The intellectual dark web
Not only starving for but there’s more than a basic deeper need to hear him. I just discovered him - just started listening to Joe and although I’m that ‘classic’ right winger, these 2 men have impressed upon me a strong desire to listen/learn more from them both. I’d much rather listen to meaningful conversation than anything else. Hard to believe this is 3 years old….
not a usual interview main stream news! no agenda driven questions. a great source of information, that is a pleasure to view. no wonder why you are leading the industry. keep up the good work.
41:50, this life advice from JP killed it. How to teach your kid the MEANING behind why it's not whether you win or lose but how you play the game. Amazing.
Im studying physical eduaction and i work with kids playing games all the time and this type of stuff is so hard to teach. Im going to have to listen to this podcast so many times so till i can nail my own understanding
The thing is, coming from a coach, (hard to listen to 2 non coaches talk about pedagogy) is that if you scale and structure the teaching correctly, you dont have to try to push a meaning onto anything, as the structure of the class holds it within it. the conflict comes when you scale and progress the class unnaturally for their abilities and stress means you try to teach meaning directly, and in the face of skill acquisition and a score keeping game like soccer, you end up bombarding kids with 3 levels of nuance that causes even more confusion and stress. Like the 'medium is the message', the structure and scale of the class carries the pedagogical meaning within it as to not be overtly obvious to the kid, like in school, when you re in 4th grade, you do not realize that you re preparing for precal but the curriculum is set up, to scale, for that process to happen subconsciously. You do not try to teach a 4th grader that in 8 years you are going to need to know how to do huge equations so you can get into college, cos all they ll ask is 'whats college?' and you ve confused and stressed the shit out of them when you re trying to teach them simple math.
All depends on your interests and what helps you take in information my friend. That’s why so many people don’t like school, it doesn’t appeal to everyone’s preference of learning.
@@aydenritzrow5366 Right,?! people youst to tell me that math was correct but I know numbers arent real. its just the man trying to get me down and make me believe the earth is round! Thats why I dropped school. now Im following my preference of learning by watching youtube and sniffing paint....
"It's not acting according to a set of rules, It's attempting to continually transcend the flawed thing that you currently are". Brilliant, and I need to hear stuff like that because it's both tough and uplifting at the same time.
I hear you, man. It's like you have to come in terms with your own flaws and addictions, take responsability for them, and work towards be better today than you were yesterday.
Jordan Peterson is the only person who makes me want to clean my room EDIT: Woah, thanks for all the likes peeps! And for the record, I have been cleaning my room! Hahahaha. y'all are fantastic, much love
@Mr. Bum Tickler the prior commenter was making a reference to Dr Peterson's recent medical problems and severe health scares. Unfortunately they seem to have either misread, been misinformed, or misunderstood what was presented to them. The gist is that Dr Peterson had an extremely severe reaction to a Benzodiazipine he had been proscribed by his doctor. Benzos are also extremely addictive even in prescription doses, and the withdrawal can be life threatening. Dr Peterson tried tapering and micro tapering the meds but wasn't able to detox, so he and his family took him to a specialist clinic in Russia to detox and he was in a medically induced coma for quite awhile. He's now out of the coma and starting to recover, but has a long way to go. The real kicker that makes all this so much worse, is that all this happened and he was proscribed the meds to deal with severe depression as his wife has terminal cancer. AFAIK she's still alive, but IDK what her condition is like. TLDR my reading is that the prior poster was implying that Dr Peterson had abused prescription meds instead of becoming addicted even while following the Dr's instructions, and then having an extreme reaction to the same meds.
i was deep asleep and this podcast was on. i thought i was in a dream but i could hear and pickup every word like he was speaking to me. i cried in my sleep i had that "moment" when the tv or video was talking at me directly. this is no coincidence.. everything he said about being in a dark place and cleaning up etc i have been and still am for 5 years now. cant believe this was 4 years ago. 😞 thankful to have come across this
I love to see Jordan comfortable, relaxed, and happy. And excited. This man deserves goodness, it is so sad people want to break this. That’s their problem not his. Love you Jordan keep well.
He's made it through the storm and can keep on going, so I think he's going to be fine. Just a shame he has some non-nonsensical views sprinkled across his largely reasonable worldview and value set.
Right On Craig! Logic, Truth and common Sense are all under attack. Follow the narrative regardless of truth. We are in trouble here in America. Take care my friend 🙂
Joe is a great interviewer but I believe he sold out. He used to challenge everything but now he goes along with everything. He's now Joe mainstream who uses people's fake gender pronouns and caves to all sorts of political correctness.
Yup, he let the guy get away with dropping bombs pushing his false narrative of "equality of outcome" when the reality is the equality being fought for is equality of opportunity. People given the opportunity to succeed, without being stopped due to race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, whatever. He's subtly making it seem like the other side wants the result to be pre-determined. In other words, he's completely misrepresenting the argument... shocking.
Jordan Peterson in my whole existence, one of the most philosophical, logical, rich knowledged and aware more than any full american city, i dont adore people nowdays, but man god damned i see him close to Plato and much more, he is a benefit to any generation from the past till the future ones, hands down from Romania!
It is hard to believe how people misunderstand Dr. Peterson......Good GOD, he is about improving the human condition, taking away personal excuses......and increasing personal accountability.
I love that Dr. Peterson's incremental self-improvement is striving to be more effective at helping people. He is on fire and everyone benefits from his success.
This conversation was exceptional in value. I've lost many things in life, a wife, a son, lots of time with the wrong people, etc. My family came to the U.S. as immigrants and survivors of war, genocide, and poverty. Learning English as a 3rd language and going through most of my life in this country has given me lots of perspective from a multi-cultural approach, leading me to being an avid reader; on average I try and complete 10-20 books a month and depending on the book itself I have detailed notes, papers, and writings that help me in the understanding and dissecting of ideas, concepts, stories, and other writings presented in the texts I read. I believe, life is an ongoing battle between the fact that life is never going to stop for anyone and being subject to this truth we need to make the absolute most of the time we do have on this Earth. We must improve ourselves daily throughout the divine pathway that is our life, and do so with humility and patience, with respect to our fellow human being. We are either the chaos or the order within the universe, I think God gave us the intuition and heart to understand this deeply. Thank you for what you do Joe Rogan and bringing the guests you do on your show. Peace.
I love that you can see Jordan's passion. When he looks away and takes a sec he's holding back tears at times cause he really feels the point he's trying to express. I really feel that.
@@mcseedat when you watch the whole thing you'll see the emotion come to his face. Like when he talking about his daughters illness and how some of what she was doing helped his own issues. Watch the whole thing and you'll see.
Thumbs up if Jordan Peterson's improved your life
Slater Brown After hundreds of hours of him throughout 2016 I am mostly sorted
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to improve my life,
Slater Brown he didn't but he is the first person. I've heard articulate why I try to live my life the way I do. I guess my parents, and schooling imprinted these things without me really understanding why. My biggest wake up has been, that not everyone has ever been told these things.
oh cmon dude, thats just low. You know everyone is going to thumbs up this one... (me included)
volvo245 glad he was able to help, nub.
If you told me 15 years ago... that I'd be listening to the guy from fear factor, speaking to a Jungian Canadian superstar, during the presidency of Donald Trump...and having one of the most transformative internal debates within myself I would say, bullshit. Yet here we are. I made my bed this morning, threw out my cigarettes, whiskey and beer. Good luck everyone.
Haha well it does beat eating dung on national television for a chance for money. I guess that’s progression.
Its a pretty strange time. Im right there with you. Just think though, we have this guy for probably 30 more years. One of us could be the next Jordan Peterson too.
Best to you, buddy
Marcus I Stocks YES! good luck brother, please keep going!
What a waste of alcohol!
Just kidding, congratulations.
From 1:17:00 and that next 7 minutes really spoke to me - hating essays in school BECAUSE the subjects assigned were of zero interest. Decades passed, I became a journalist/essayist, refining and clarifying my thoughts "on paper", exploring subjects that I was passionate about, even if it was for an audience of one. I am so grateful to have had one or two moments in my life where someone has thanked me for being the catalyst for their own self-improvement. They did the hard work but they were thanking me... so humbling.
Listening to JP is becoming so much more interesting, intriguing and wholesome than church services on Sunday...If you listen well enough, its so much better!!....Such a blessing this man is to mankind....Pastors and reverends...take notes!!!.....
I've identified two problems. There are probably more.
1. The most significant problem is that >95% of churches are feminist. They redact whole sections of the Bible because they offend modern feminist sensibilities, their sensibilities. Feminism and Christianity are not merely mutually exclusive; they are in a battle to the death. When churches become feminist, the Word is corrupted, and they become heretical.
2. They self-censor to avoid losing their 501c3 tax exemption. Churches have submitted to government bribery and censorship.
I guess it depends who you listen to on Sundays. I've had that same feeling in the past too, but it went away once i started to listen to pastors who did expository preaching so well, that i was eager to hear the rest of the message. And of course, it also helps that later in life, i went from cultural Christian to someone who truly believes in Jesus Christ. It made the Sunday messages much more interesting, once i had love for who the message was about.
It's always a pleasure listening to Dr. Peterson
MindSmash Hey man I watch your videos they’re awesome keep it up
I am not surprised to see you here!) thanks for good videos!)
MindSmash hey can you cover some side videos with people like Dr. Peterson you cover things very well so I would love to hear what you think of motivational people like him thank I love your videos to by the way my favorite is the one about DC and his child
Indeed, im cleaning my apartment at the same time:)
Is this a glitch In the matrix!...HeiLo
I think sometimes about Peterson's wife. I recently saw the documentary on Peterson on amazon prime and she says she has "lost her husband to the world". I would assume because of all the time it takes up for his (what I would call) crusade. She has stood by him and "been a great help". I think maybe both Jordan and Tammy Peterson have made considerable sacrifices for our benefit. For that I am grateful.
@@Neon_White Amen.
Nicholas McGreevy what’s this documentary out of interest?
Bsgrjsbr Sqdbarj the rise of Jordan Peterson
Thanks for letting me know about his documentary, didn’t know he had one. Gonna check it out.
Its the substance abuse
I love no interruptions. Just being able to listen and not reach for the pass , so I could just listen and close my eyes and get comfortable. Thank you so much.
Thumbs up to both of you gentlemen.
Thanks for being strong and reflective men.
Jordan Peterson is the greatest dad I've ever had
Derek Garcia same cause my real dad is a narcissistic t**t lol
Naillled'd'ummm!!
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@@Curiousnessify That's not... a baby bottle... of Zero Sugar Added "Jelly" juice... is it???...🤔😏😳😳🥴😷😁😵😵🤢🤮🤡😥😡🥵😣😆😁
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Being... an @sshole... poking straight out of underwear... for no reason... is never fun.
Usually doesn't help... to be, like that, or.... "seem"...that way.
I'm honestly... no opposition to you... just stating, something... "I", learned... the hard way.😈
@@aresp2707 what?
Who else here binge-watches Jordan Peterson, knowing that he will say the same thing, but still wanting to hear more?😅
@Engineer Asom Couldn't disagree 🙂
@@isaackvasager9957 how's that the case?
Starting my fourth show this week, just found out about the guy.. It's good shit !
Isaac Kvasager examples of snake oil please
@@kevinfairweather3661 just found out about him?) I envy you...good luck on the journey.
Jordan Peterson is a national treasure and must be protected at all costs! ❤
I’m not religious more of a Christopher Hitchens person but I like JP because he argues well in the philosophical way. Has great independent thinking, and shares this, encouraging others, knows his subject, doesn’t stand nonsense, has a deep caring, talks about subjects others wouldn’t. Always worth listening to.
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I miss Hitch as do many other people.
I miss Hitchens. He helped me see the oppression in a regressive Pakistani society.
yeah but i've never understood how religious people fall so short then. they fly planes into our buildings and kill 7000 people... that's obviously what the bible says NOT to do...i'm sure it also states the same in whatever "book" like the Koran and any other volume. so , given that, why are religious people murderous beyond belief? even if they don't KILL anyone, they still picket gay funerals, they still step over the homeless person dressed in their best sunday suit to hypocritically show off their piety. given all that, i'd have to agree with Hitchens, that religion poisons EVERYthing. when we can actually golden rule our lives, i'll swallow your religion whole. but since that IS NOT what i see happening when our preists diddle little boys, then avoid procecution and relocate to another field where they can repeat it. there should be no such thing as a rich church, yet the vatican has more gold than morals in any case. so we follow the "book" as interpeted any way we want to , you know, to break the rules stated clearly, but doesn't apply to them at all. they also shouldn't be tax free just because they were taught religion while their brains were still soft at age 5
As a theologically conservative, conventionally religious Christian, I must stress that Jordan Peterson's Christianity isn't Christianity in any historically meaningful sense. He is a Jungian who borrows Christian imagery and applies his own meanings to it. I enjoy Dr Peterson's material for the most part, but he's causing confusion about what Christianity is.
For those of us concerned with doctrinal orthodoxy, we have a lot of trouble with Dr. Peterson's use of Christian symbolism. Lest it be said that this is an issue of interpretation, Biblical scholars, linguists and the like can demonstrate where Dr. Peterson and Mr. Pageau err in their understanding of the text, so the issues are matters of fact rather than interpretation.
Introduced a 17 year-old student to Dr Peterson's podcasts as he was a self described nihilist and very deep thinker. He look so sad the day I met him. He said life was not worth living. I was concerned for him. There appeared to be a darkness in his face as we talked and he seemed without hope. I saw him again yesterday. Wow different young guy. Standing taller, happier, there was a light in his face... He couldn't wait to share he was still listening to Dr Peterson's talks and was really enjoying them. I am so grateful I had something to offer him that first day I met him that made a difference to him.
north star Congratulations for him and you! :)
This is what it's all about in the end, take or leave the political stuff, far more important is the life lessons he gives.
yeah. hooray for cults.
I see so many comments about how Peterson has changed people's lives and it gives me hope for the future.
ian giovanni Ya like the cult of mindless trolls you belong to who dedicate their lives to leaving negative comments on positive comments such as this one.
"The more responsibility you take the more meaning you have, And that's the antidote to the catastrophe of life"
-Jordan B Peterson
This cut pretty deep for me...
@Curtis Beardsley Are you trying to say that taking responsibility in life is a form of escapism? Just when I thought demon world couldn't get any more retarded.
@@rg5312 escapes aren't supposed to just waste time and be partially harmful some can be good
@Curtis Beardsley You can't accept true hardship and responsibility until you understand what life is. You failed the test of this life before you even started. Enjoy devolving from light into eternal darkness. Peak irony calling someone else smooth brain 🤣
@Curtis Beardsley i dont think youre understaning what he is saying, idk maybe im wrong but what i beleive he means by that is to GIVE your life meaning! I Can say for a fact that taking on more responsibility has done wonders for my family, My mental health, and my overall satisfaction with my life. I dont know know how much this may mean to you but im in the USMC, and I joined bc i felt going to school and just "going through the steps" was killing me. I wasnt happy and that led to me being bitter towards everyone and everything but ik that i could do more and i WANTED to do more so I joined and plan to continue school eventually and im doing all of this to help as many people as i can yk? I took on more responsibility and im so damn happy I did! please dont take this as me being an asshole to you, actually think about it. Im also not saying Jordan Peterson is a god or something but from experience from this one quote i think he might be right but thats just my opinion.
Had this playing while I was asleep and woke up to it. JP is such a brilliant and inspiring guy. Already motivated for my day.
Last night, I fell asleep watching bible stories, and woke up around 2:00 am to this video. It sounded so interesting , I was almost tempted to get up and watch it, but i made a mental note to watch later.
I did not know it would be so long, but once I started listening , I was immersed into the deep, thoughtful conversations. I normally listen to music on the ride to take the kids to school, but this was hooked up to the bluetooth . Even my 14 and 6 year old sons were engaged.
This is rare. Two absolutely brilliant minds. I enjoyed the way they literally complemented each other. There were so many gems dropped, I had to take notes📝
It's captivating because it is a revelation that is being suppressed, and those who are outside of politics can resonate with it. It's the God D*** truth!
Hearing Jordan get choked up about people thanking him is awesome
Chokes me up hearing him talk about it
@@leetrengove chokes me up reading about you choking up hearing him talk about it
Tf2Antichief chokes me up hearing you're choked up about him getting choked up about dr Peterson getting choked up
I choked up as well.
@@thankshi2815 Choked my Chicken after reading about you getting choked up about him getting choked up about Peterson getting choked up
Since discovering Jordan Peterson online and watching his videos, I got myself out of dead end retail work and into IT. I enjoy my work, I'm studying a lot to get qualified to move up in my new career, passed my driving test and I'm on the road. Im 29. Should not have taken me this long.
Getting your act together and throwing some effort into the world is incredibly rewarding. Not just my professional life, but my personal life too. Just gotta tidy my room now...
That's great. But the guy is a liar and a fraud th-cam.com/video/5YsMOGFyadc/w-d-xo.html
I'm 40 and just starting life... It could be worse
Best of luck to you friend, I'm on the same path from retail into IT, just started 2 weeks ago and it's amazing how quickly it all unfolded once I made my mind up and cleaned my room so to speak.
Jordan has been a breeze of fresh air to my existence, much needed and longed for.
Keep going friend, best of luck!
And don't forget to pet your lobster
Well stated.
I don't think I've ever listened to a 3 hour podcast in one sitting. I can listen to another 3 hours of this. Absolutely amazing conversation
More interesting than your teacher teaching in mosque. He is a Christian, and that's haram for muslims. Your religions like segregation and that's for y'all
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@@PharmacySpiritshe's not, he's maybe too serious but what can he do? You can't not be serious when you have the role that he has, otherwise his message would not be received
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I could listen to these two for hours....absolutely refreshing and grounding 🙏🏼
This man has changed my life I was an addict I started listening to his seminars I got myself off pills started going to school for my CDL license It took two years I failed alot but I stuck with it I own my own home I'm about to get married and start a family I plan to teach my son or daughter the same values he taught me
That is awesome!
That's great, man! The world is a better place because of you!
Good work ✌️
How did u get off
Absolutely amazing
Wow.
Hard to realize that this was 4 Years ago! So well worth the time to listen!
Wow! How did I not see this until today? For being 4 years old it feels as though you are talking about what is currently happening! I am so thankful you stepped up!
A fun thing to do is watch all of them from oldest to newest and watch how accurately he predicts everything! You'll love it!
How can anyone dislike a guy who's clearly so emotionally interested in helping people
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Defamation and slander
Shows you we live in a sick world
I think he is a bit twisted (we all are, I guess), but well intentioned; doesn't make him or what he is saying an asset, but I think people mischaracterize him.
As every other human, he has his pros and cons, he is otherwise very polarizing. He has interesting ideas but he is really slow at recognizing failures or cognitive bias from his side (nothing wrong with that, everybody does it). I am kind of in the middle because he has some really interesting stuff to say but then he goes into religion (and other wacky stuff), when he obviously knows he has nothing on it, still he keeps pushing some themes which do not really resonate with everyone.
Have you guys *literally* not listened to the podcast? Of course he would have haters. And a damned world? This is a human world, accept it or don't.
Jordan Peterson is the dad this generation from single mothers need
this is why JP is unstoppable.
Well fucking put.
N Silva nothing can cure womens psychological problems. Nothing.
not really about "curing" its a product of biological insentives women are given at birth, which makes them more inclined to psychological issues as we see it today
but if you go far enough back theres a biological reasoning behind why women are more proned to depression and anxiety
and men more inclined for violent and anti social behaviour and yes, JP mentions this
just wanted to point it out anywho
She has clinical depression just like her father. So they changed diets to try and help. Thats how one finds an issue and tests it
Was lucky enough to see this JRE, & the one with Jordan & Bret Weinstein, the first time around and it was truly a privilege to finally hear so many of my own uncondensed thoughts and feelings about the world articulated by such a wonderful speaker. We each of us lost our direction, our hope, and self-belief.....but at least partly, had it returned to us by Jordan being direct & honest, and not dumbing it down! A great few hours to relive! Enjoy!
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Had the privilege to see Dr. Peterson last week in Detroit MI, it was worth every penny. I felt like a child on Christmas enjoying the lecture with my wife. God Bless you for all you do, Dr. Peterson spoke highly of Joe Rogan as well! Was a true blessing
He doesn't mince words, and people need that now more than ever.
My husband and I have tickets to see Dr. Peterson in Billings, MT in May and it's hard to wait!!! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it...but then, it's Jordan, so how can the event be anything but amazing, right?!! 😁 He is a treasure!
@@micdrop-jh3pf it was a blessing to be there, enjoy. You both will have a great time, Definitely can’t wait til he comes again!
5M views for watching 2 people talking for 3+ hours, with both agreeing and dissenting views without shouting over each other, calling each other some kind of -ism/ist, and just having an actual normal discussion.
This is what our country needs. Not hatred, not berating or denigrating each other, just having a personal conversation between an American and a Canadian(ehhh)
C G Russell Brand had him on his podcast and their communication dynamic was cordial. Russell gets goofy and funny but it was a great conversation. They covered different topics.
To be fair, this is two people who essentially share their fundamental world view and respect each other. It's not going to get heated. It's essentially an echo chamber. I agree with your overall sentiment though. It's amazing that content of this depth becomes this popular, when we've seen the trend media takes with short, click-baity videos and articles.
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@@LCaaroe It may have to do with one of them being a traditional conservative and the other a traditional liberal. They are more central in their beliefs and can come together to discuss difficult subjects in a cordial manner. If you put even 1 polarized /extreme person in a conversation, typically nothing is learned because they are unwilling/insecure to accept any other views that contradict their own. We as people/countries/world need to meet in the middle to be able to actually HEAR/UNDERSTAND and enevidably LEARN about each other. Media/gov't are trying their hardest to polarize the world and they are winning at this point.. but I have faith we will see through this before it is too late.
And 4 months Later it is 6.5 Million....🤔🤔🤔
When Jordan Peterson says, "I've been thinking a lot on that lately", the tectonic plates shift ever so slightly.
I think these never stop. Or plate is shifting away from Europe at about the rate a fingernail grows, nearly two metres in a human lifetime.
In 250million years, the earth may have only one continent. We are losing a lot of oceanfront, man!
Eric P seriously! Cause when he thinks on something he THINKS on it. Like for a couple of decades. I love when he says that.
Eric P or when JP says “it isn’t obvious that....”
Sometimes thoughts are traps that defeat meaning. Religion too. I've found seeing and examining the outside world makes one wise. Madness, shallowness and disdain, even "narcissism" come from thinking heavily. I contend, if one focuses on their logic, their idea of it, they can follow a mind-path of ideas and concepts into oblivion. This is the problem with many liberals and the far right.
@@nickolausafon5458 Typical idiot speaking here, eh
Jordan Peterson is a very compassionate person who wants people to succeed as best they can. Yes, he may not be all cuddly but uses his intellect and speech. More people need to listen to this man.
*liberal rage*
Jordan Peterson is a pseudo psychologist who uses his theocratic beliefs to dismiss any criticism or disagreement as "marxist" or "leftist." There are millions of people out there who actually know what they preach, you should look for them, it will be enlightening.
Thank you for reminding me of my imperfection. Thank you for reminding me of my own role in my despair. I don't know how I let myself get this bad again, with my choices it was inevitable. I f'd around and found out again. I am cleaning up my room, making my bed, focusing on my diet, sleep and work more conscientiously. I pray it will be enough if I keep thinking critically and make the best of everything. Make the most of the present opportunities. Never allowing myself to feel above doing what needs doing. Thank you again Jordan, and thank you again Joe for another great podcast/interview. Really useful stuff.
you've got this.
Don't forget therapy! Work is work, but don't forget to enjoy life as well. Best of luck to you on your journey
Although I’m not that bright myself, I’m loving this shift towards smart educated brains becoming mega stars instead these brain dead people on reality tv.
Me too man/woman.
Don’t sell yourself short. I bet your a lot smarter than you give yourself credit. And raw IQ is probably overrated, too.
Brad Boetig the best way to understand the value of iq, is that iq is your ability to learn. I have a friend who I have known for a while. He was the opposite of a smart guy in highschool but when he got to college he delved deep into expanding his knowledge. He is one of my smartest friends now. He is someone with a low IQ who is smarter than most people I know with higher IQ.
Did you mean our dear president?
while i agree, i do not want those brains to become tainted by fame.
Thank you for reminding me that I am the greatest obstacle in my life and also the greatest solution
Yes. I forget that from time to time
Always the case and I constantly need reminders. These vids help.
Amen, may JP bless us all
The paradox of the human condition.
That might be true to you, but for the most people in the world that just isn't true. If you are poor and you family has been poor for generations, there is generally very very little that you can do for that - even in the 1st world coutries.
What an amazing thing to do in life. Thank you Dr Peterson 🙏
As a 40 yr old man it's so awesome having these 2 men as "mentors" and educators.
33yo, same!
as a 25 yr old young man i feel blessed, peterson gave me a sence of direction again. And to take action.
Same here.
@@thomasandersen5349 the main thing I noticed about both men is they never talk over anyone. They have what is called a "conversation", instead of just waiting for their turn to speak. They both try to address problems from a positive and compassionate POV and even offer solutions.
Why have i never heard of this man?! I didnt want this podcast to end, now im going on the hunt for all things Jordan Peterson. Best JRE EVER!!!
Timothy Paulson read or listen to 12 rules for life
Where have you been bro?
I'm gonna save you some time. Find any old innane self-help crap, add missunderstood biology, politics, economy and pop-psych. Dust with bits of madness and romanticizing aristocracy and boom.
Hes been on this 3 timex you should watch the other two
Jakub Kotyza so what you're saying is...? You can do better?! 😂 wow ok sure thing
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Aye!
Thank you JRE and crew for keeping the JP and Randall Carlson/Graham Hancock podcasts up on TH-cam!
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Always the sensible triunph, is the dialectics of progress, natural selection or whatever you call it. This two gentlemen are a delight to hear.
More than 5 millions of views for two guys talking during more than 3 hours. This is how strong those statements are resonating with a whole generation of human beings. That's huge bro.
Yeah I've never heard a single person speak like Dr. Peterson does, he has a better comprehension on how people tick than anyone I've ever heard.
@@samgomez9942 This must be what it feels like to listen to an ancient greek philosopher
and 0 of the 5 million watched the video in its entirety. people take bits and pieces that reinforce pre existing beliefs. What cultivates a belief is a traumatic experience. meaning is hinged on a persons experiences, and the meanings they relate to those experiences. nobody will change their opinion by watching these podcasts.
@@JackJackKcajify I think you're speaking for yourself. Many people listen to the entire discussion. Maybe nothing changes for you because you never see anything through to the end. Hundreds of thousands of people also read books by the likes of Peterson.
@@JackJackKcajify speak for yourself. I didn't listen to it on one go but I definitely listened to it all
I make my bed every morning now. My eating style is changing. I expect more of myself, and others, and my conversations. My life is getting deeper and more interesting. Thank you, gentleman! From a middle age, white, American woman....
Same here.
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As I read through most of the comments , it becomes clear that I'm part of something big and something truly of value . I want to be smarter and wiser , and also more aware of what's actually going on in the world . tHANKS
Good for you ! :)
this post just made my day. you go!
Hey there, Mr. Peterson... I am so glad that you mentioned your daughter's diet. I too break out with rash when eating strawberries, oranges, and pineapple. Last night I popped a vitamin C tablet and all night I was experience serious leg cramping. Thinking back, the same cramping occurred when drinking orange juice and eating strawberry preserves. I'm putting two and two together... Vitamin C is toxic for my health. I never would have thought of it if you hadn't discussed your daughter. I can't thank you enough!
Have you tried eating lots of bananas or potassium rich foods?
Gotta go back and listen to these every couple years to see how much more sense they make as you get more life experience
Well put. Agreed
This is TRENDING ON TH-cam. Let that sink in for a minute.
ExtractEngineer I do not see it?
Fake news
Largest podcast in the world, trending on TH-cam. Wow
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In Canada it's #10 right now. In the US anything closely related to pro right wing won't get on trending
Even Joe Rogan sits up straighter when talking to Jordan Peterson
Juan Matheu Underrated comment.
Joe Rogan reflects all the guests he has on, not just JP... just look at his attire change when he talks to MMA guys, hunters, scientists, and celebrities.... we all do it subconsciously
He always looks erect as a board
Whoa there, ur letting ur imagination get the better of u
LOL!!
Anytime Dr. Peterson is in a podcast i will always find the time to listen.
What a great episode.
I watched the whole thing many times since it came out.
Joe should invite him again.
He has, several more times
New one is on Spotify
I watch these because I can't find people to talk to this way.
This is exactly why I listen to these so often!
Yeah TH-cam is a great way to engage in some sort of discourse on topics that may be harder to with people in your own life.
Same here. I always wondered if i'm an ignorant because I don't care about our country's politics. With Jordan, i found out that i choose to not engage in political conversations because people here are so one-sided when they do talk about it.
Keep trying. You'll find at least one person eventually. One great thing about life is that once you meet a person, there's a million other people out there who have a lot of the same traits. There's people like Jordan and Joe all over the place hiding in plain sight, waiting for you to engage in an interesting conversation with them.
I agree. I literally tired to have a conversation like this with someone in my life and ended up in tears 😭
When you hear Dr Peterson say " Look, Man!", you are about to receive an intellectual beating.
so true
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Beautiful obsevation. :D
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Unless you are an Intellectual, then you do the beating!
Why people hate Jordan Peterson? I mean for me he make sense.
Jordan Peterson should be listened to,he's as close to the most honest genius we can get to and he truly cares about peoples general well being.
I cleaned my room and it was incredibly empowering. It had been messy for a year. It was gross, to be honest. Now it's clean and I feel like it uncluttered my mind as well. Like the state of my room was an extension of the state of my mind.
Edit: I didn't clean it because JP told me to, it was just relevant to this podcast.
non-western people.... always trying to put leashes on women and children. Damn bro, I bet your room is a travesty and your family system is akin to new age slavery. Peace be upon you...Love, Jesus.
Clinton Leonard ive been considering doing thw same. but have been sitting here procrastinating and feeling like an asshole...
Good job! Its the first step to a better life! Don't let the trolls get you down. ;)
Part of that is cleaning a little every day. It's something I struggle with as well. It's so "easy" to just drop something on a chair or leave it on a desk rather than put it away. Which contributes to clutter. Part of this folds back to the personal responsibility and how we go about managing our responsibilities, first to ourselves and then moving out from there.
I'm not great at it either, hell I keep trying to get the motivation to start working out to improve myself, it's hard and I find myself pushing on all sorts of margins trying to be better. It's hard. It sucks. It's also rewarding.
Good for you, bucko
One of my favorite Peterson quotes is "we have to risk being offensive in pursuit of the truth".
Must have been really refreshing to Dr. Petersen when he was on a show and the person opposite him didn't constantly interrupt him and actually contributed to the conversation.
Jordan's mind is so great not to mention his humility and love for humanity and great understanding of how law has no business in decisions pertaining to how people communicate and how they perceive others.
I deleted my social media, and stopped watching the mainstream news once I got accustomed to longform podcasts and debates. It's so refreshing and educational. I'll be honest, in the past I would have rather thrown my TV out the window than watch 3 hours of their "news". This is where progress is made, and people can actually learn. Well done.
The average person is being trained to regurgitate information, not to think...
@UncleJemima420 For sure. Whats crazy to me, is that after deleting my social media, I would still reflexively open my phone and look for Facebook at dozens of moments throughout the day. (maybe more) Almost like any time there wasn't enough stimulus in my immediate environment, I would just go there by default and tune out the world. After a few weeks, I quit doing that and I noticed that I feel so much more aware of my surroundings. It sounds super stupid maybe...but like, I travel a lot for work and I notice people/animals/things...what they're doing around me. I feel like giving it up has not only reduced my stress, but lifted a burden off my mind. I don't need to come up with any snappy one liners. I don't need a "current/trendy" Facebook profile pictures. It's been super good =)
I never have used fb/twitter other than once to check an exotic pet shop page (fb) . Couldn't see the point & why everyone was obsessed with it. People used to look amazed when I said I wouldn't do it. I'm so glad I didn't as toxicity can be addictive. (I do put the odd stupid comment on TH-cam so not perfect)
Yeah he does give white men a kinda safe place in his podcast , dont mind me i'm a big fan of his 12 ways to better your life thingy , but u gotta question the paradoxical nature that white men victimising the left in going to safe places basically do the same thing
@UncleJemima420 Again i agree with everything u said , i like his books and his thoughts about life and how to make it better ,what i dislike is his argument about IQ and race , it tries to promote white supremacy when a cultural thing would be the right argument eg. Asian americans(Chinese & indians) are most sucessful & rich per person in usa but u would think looking at the state of India & china that wouldnt be the case . he boderline calls black american dumb & unsuccesgul by genes which is absolutely stupid , the argument for african americans being unsuccesful can be attrbuted to cultural phenomenon of single mother raising kids no father around , having a drug problem in black culture & hating authority
Jordan Peterson is one of the most important people in the West right now.
Not necessarily. He is saying it's the best system we got but it's flawed and we need to figure out how to improve it. As he sees it right now the best way is to improve the individual.
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg The fact that you had to resort to name calling and bending and exaggerating what Dr. Peterson said already proves that you don't have a valid point. Also since the things you said weren't even remotely true, I think that especially shows how lost you are in this argument.
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg Again, you're just throwing insults and bending the view/opinion of the person you don't agree with. Sure, you can say I'm worshiping JP and call me a kid. But in the end, that doesn't do anything other than put me down and make me feel like my opinion is invalid, at least I assume that's what you're trying to do. Anyways, I would try to change your mind about JP but I doubt an arguement/debate online will make a difference. So sry you feel that way, but hey, we all have a right to our opiniond. So cya and have a good life.
Make sure that your empathy for the disenfranchised isn't actually hatred of the successful... this dude is genius.
This man is the biggest gift to humanity in a millennia
He’s kind of starting to get weird nowadays though.
@@justincraig398how so?
This dude makes me wanna lift weights as I think about a problem I'm working on, in order to get tired enough to need a nap...
...just so I get to make my bed again.
You made me smile man, I like you.
Ry P all incels posting today.
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Go lift weights then! No one at the gym is going to judge you, it’s all in your head. I was a lank 6’2” 155. 14 months later I’m now 200lbs.
All you have to do is go. Just tell yourself no bullshitin, nose to the grindstone. No excuses anymore.
RyanJL337 Theo reference?
I went for a walk with this podcast and it took exactly 3hr 20min from door to door through streets and parks. What a Saturday to remember! Very enjoyable
cool story, yep
@@mouse_22 3 months ago, my 80 years old grandma started to walk 5 miles a day, we have no idea where she is at now.
@@Uriel-Septim. sounds like the start to a word problem in math.
@@thechurchofgravity well it is a joke, but I guess my English translation sucks :D
Nice sweet feeling of accomplishment. 😎
I'm late to the party, but this discussion is still fully relevant. Every last minute. I could listen for another 3 hours...
I've watched this many times and every time Rule 4 comes up it reminds me of what my grandfather said personally to me knowing how depressed I am. I wrestle with it in my head all the time. He said "I understand the power of stagnation you're suffering. Funny thing about the fog depression puts you in *haha*, you forget.... Imagine if you were as you are now and didn't feel this way... What a waste right?"
Knowing you're capable will propel you to greatness. Depression is the catalyst of true growth.
I cant shake that saying years later.
😂😂😂😂
"The only thing that's worse than the pain of inequality is the pain of forced equality." Jordan Peterson.
they only thing more funny then people complaining about inequality is the Wars and Racism the Republicans have gone out of there way to embrace to avoid the responsibility of governance
@@chuckecheese5251 For some reason your statement makes me want to go to an arcade and play video games. Maybe it's because it has the same relevance to the topic at hand.
Like my son would say thereChuckieBob, you sound a bit butthurt, maybe I could make your face hurt instead. Naw, just kiddin, we all need to meet in the middle and get a new game plan, eh !
@@chuckecheese5251 you are not listening......and that is scary.... :-)
@@JohnSmith-ye5ft you, Sir, are listening...... :-)
I talk about Peterson with people all the time. I was pretty down when I discovered him, it's only been about 2 months but I've made a lot of progress with my mindset and I'm going back to school in the spring God willing. I've started being more honest with others, but mainly with myself. Not only did he make me want to better myself, but he took the stress out of person setbacks because I no longer have to be my own hostage.
justin robbins one of many
justin robbins we are so happy he has helped you find your way. He has enhanced the lives of so many of us.
Dermot Killian good man
Dermot Killian funny how some people think he is evil 😂😂
I find it hard to describe why i like him and what his doing...how do u speak about him? I strugle sometimes to undestand him, i dont know how to talk like him
Had to watch this in segments just so my brain could absorb all of this awesome information.
Jordan Peterson is an international treasure! RESPECT!
Jordan’s breakdown of Joe’s strengths was so:
1. True
2. Extremely well thought-out
3. Well-articulated
4. Weirdly heartwarming
There’s something in here that is indicative of how to give a good compliment. I think Jordan acts out what he describes in his lectures about the one who ascends to the top has eyes all around his head (pays attention) and speaks magic words (uses well-articulated and effective speech).
He really paid attention to Joe, broke down why he’s successful, and then effortlessly stated it back to him in a really genuine way. Think if we all did this with those in our lives.
I agree. it starts at 2:27:14 for anyone who didn't catch it.
That’s a beautiful sentiment. And well stated.
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I’m torn. On the one hand I know we could use more of Dr. Peterson’s wisdom. On the other hand he shouldn’t have to burden all of this evil. Besides telling the truth, and following his advice, what can we do to help him and help each other? Take care of yourselves.
Bear his burden and spread the word and spread THE Word.
We better ourselves and continue passing the torch. We need to continue to educate ourselves and be open-minded. Ill admit, ive been listening to JP like hes the messiah lately and I need to diversify.
Sounds like a fantastic opportunity to take on more responsibility in our individual lives the best way we can! He's given the answer to just this question! I feel the same way I'm regards to him stepping back into the spotlight for sure.
Lift where you stand.
Remove the log from thine own eye ,you know the rest I assume.
This pod automatically plays every night.
this helped when i thought help was no more. Jo0rdan Peterson for the win on humanity !!!
This is SUCH helpful advice. I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease and I gained 50lbs. Obviously I wanted to loose all of that right off the bat and kept struggling. But now I’ve set my goal at 5lbs at a time. And I’ve lost 20 so far when I set the bar lower!
I also want to own my own salon but I knew I couldn’t do that right away. So I went out independently and rented a booth. Now I have a clientele. Now I’m looking into entrepreneurial corses. And slowly building my credit score. Baby steps. 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Congrats!!! That's awesome!
👏👏👏🎉🎉
God fucking dammit that's amazing, really. Fuck yeah.
small obtainable goals, n you eventually get there. Way too many of us set ourselves up for failure far too often, we're then also our best critic in the process. Leaving us stuck, listening to the corrupted voice in your head.
said voice got much better after leaving social media in 2014 though. our brains simply aren't built for the constant consumption of division.
Well done 🥃
You are a beautiful badass person!!!
I wish I had 30% of Peterson’s vocabulary.
This guy is sublime.
paulohyp I had the same thought
I'm sure you have. It's not his vocab volume, it's how insightfully and aptly he uses vocab he has.
Typhoon of Ideas his eloquence
Go clean you room and start
Imagine if you improved your vocab at a rate of 1% increase per day and you even slacked for 4 times a week, God knows just how much better you'll become over the course of 1 year
The first time I came across Jordan Peterson I was looking up something to do with motherhood as I was trying to navigate through some difficult aspects of motherhood. I came across a video of him talking about women and men in terms of parenting and I think he was talking about how kids need the mom to be their primary attachment more than the dad and I can't remember what else he said but whatever it was it helped me at the time with struggles I was having with motherhood.
There was a mom group I was in on Facebook and someone posted with a struggle they were having and it related to the video. I shared it and explained that it helped me and seemed relevant to her situation too.
Then another mom commented and said "be careful. Jordan Peterson is a known misogynist. I wouldn't be looking into what he says too much." Or something along those lines. I replied that I had no idea who he was but I didn't get that at all from this particular clip and found what he said in it to be helpful so I still felt it was worth sharing and fine to share. The mom who originally posted also said that she didn't find it misogynistic at all and that it helped her and she appreciated the message.
Then I did more looking into him with the presupposition that he was a misogynist and keeping an eye out for that.
It's been probably 3 years now and I watch a lot of his videos and understand them from the level he is speaking at, not from what he is often misconstrued as saying. The Cathy Newman video was super uncomfortable to watch, the way she attacked him relentlessly but it was amazing how he kept his cool.
There are definitely some things that women have to go through that men can't fully understand the weight of, and I think that at times his delivery doesn't always portray that. But what he is seeing and trying to make a difference with is the things that men go through that women can't fully understand and that people dismiss or aren't even aware of at all. It's a very similar issue to racism in the sense that we can't just blame all white people for being the problem when most now are not contributing to the problem. But we do have to be aware and sensitive of the residual effects of past traumas and help and give space for the healing process. Without pushing white people down as oppressors. I've been hearing about young kids in schools being bullied just because they are white. And a mom who's son was experiencing this posted about her son dealing with racism and multiple people telling her that because her son is white then it isn't racism. The whole definition of racism is treating someone badly based on their race.
But it's the same thing between men and women, now that women are no longer being repressed as we were in past years, there is a huge hate on men being oppressors and wanting to tear down men. We feel the collective past pain from the trauma that some women experienced. There is no denying that it was more commonplace years ago to beat your wife and treat her like your property. But it isn't fair to blame and condemn men who have done none of this, simply because they are male. And completely ignore the very real challenges that men today are facing, because it doesn't fit with the man hate style feminism that is popular right now.
In some ways, it may be because he is trying to make a point against something that is seen as so concrete - the patriarchy - that he gets his back up and is more vehemently against it and doesn't mention any of the nuance where there have in the past been power struggles that caused many women to suffer, just the parts against it. (In lots if cases he does go into this, but in some he doesn't, especially when only clips are shown which in that case isnt his fault at all, just what others are showing of him). But it isn't quite as black and white as - women didn't have the right to vote because they didn't go to war. That is a fair point and absolutely women didn't have to do that which is a huge privilege, women dont want to do the dirty jobs mostly, there are tons of valid explanations he gives for the pay gap and voting and things like that. But there have definitely been ways where women were oppressed and treated as sub human. But again, not all men were acting that way and not all women were being treated that way universally.
That may be where he loses some people, because it may seem that he is saying that women have it great and there is no oppression, when he says there is no patriarchy. But to me it seems that his main goal a lot of the time when speaking about men and women is to speak to what isn't being said. What most people aren't hearing or thinking of. Everyone knows women have been through some hard shit and treated in degrading ways but it's not that we have had things worse than men across the board or that it was all women all the time. And talk of the patriarchy generally lends to thinking of a few white men with all the money controlling everyone, but also men in charge in every profession and controlling all positions of power.
What Jordan talks about with the statistics makes perfect sense and seems common sense. You pull someone off the street there is a certain percent chance they are stereotypical to their gender in terms of being more on the compassionate side or more on the analytical side, more chance on one side than the other but not a crazy amount. But you go to the top percent in each area and it will be overwhelmingly one gender occupying all the top spots. So it makes sense for men to gravitate towards certain jobs and women to gravitate towards others, and men to get paid more if they are working longer hours etc. Although it definitely hasn't always been that way either and in some places there ARE misogynist still treating women like they deserve less because of their gender.
I was actually listening to Oprah talking about it the other day. About how when she was a news anchor the man that did the exact same job as her, same hours and everything, was being paid more and she confronted her bosses and they laughed her off and said she shouldn't be paid the same as him because she's a single female. Then when she had her own show she had female producers and wanted to give them a raise because they were being underpaid for the position and their response was "why? They're just girls!"
It does happen, but not to the extent that todays feminists often make it seem.
Anyways. I am a huge fan of Jordan Peterson and I love listening to him talk. It's heartbreaking to see how he has been vilified and his sole motivation is to help people and make a difference with his time here and DESPITE depression and all the physical obstacles he has had to face and being constantly misrepresented and vilified and attacked he STILL shows up for us and sacrifices his peace in the hopes it will help more people to live a better life. He is an absolute legend and yes he has faults like anyone but he does his absolute best to be aware of them and to work on them and be better and better all the time. Some of the ways I've seen people try to attack him (like the Cathy Newman interview) leave me wondering like have they never watched anything he's ever said before? Have they only ever seen snippets of him out of context and been told other people's smeary opinions of what he's trying to say? Lol so many people are on a manhunt to catch him saying something reprehensible. And also seem completely taken aback at his propensity to maintain a level head and challenge their stance against him lol he is fascinating to watch in those situations. The more I watch him, the more I understand where he's coming from and appreciate his perspectives and information.
Wow 😮
Longest comment I've ever seen!
@@MVK123 Lol! Guess I had a lot to say!!! 😅
Amazing how two people can coexist so gracefully on this insane podcast with twists and turns and yet we as a species fight tooth and nail for a minute inch of room and getting one over... TrueType inspired co verse gentleman much love 💪💪👍
That speech about how life isn't a game, and even a game isn't a game... I wish someone told me that in my troubled highschool years.
Just wow. I just feel extremely lucky I heard it now rather than later.
One of the very few "educators" I've come across.
I'm definitely looking for his books tomorrow.
Thanks Joe, for having this podcast.
Exaclty what I though when listening the first time. Just wow.
Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?
Check out the book Finite and Infinite Games by James Carse
The paradox of life is that life is a totally pointless game, and yet it must be played with dead seriousness. You must play the game as if your entire life depends on it, but you must also be conscious that the outcome doesn't matter at all.
Chung Junwoo I have 12 rules for life it's amazing I wish this book was available when i was 20. I'm 28 now but still very interesting and useful insight. I recommend the audiobook. I listen about 2+ hours a day between cleaning around the house and my daily work.commute.
00:15 - Peterson's huge lectures/discussions
1:58 - Peterson and Sam Harris
4:20 - The emergence of complex long form discussions/content
9:34 - Why is there a tendency to label public intellectuals as alt right, leftists etc (why is everything politics?)
14:33 - Are universities responsible for establishing norms/opinions that you cannot deviate form publically?
18:04 - How and why hierarchies arise in the psyche and the world
19:50 - Why there needs to be an ongoing conversation between the left and the right
22:18 - Peterson on writing the preface to The Gulag Archipelago and dividing the world into opressor and oppressed
27:07 - Why is left always associated in support of the gay right, all races all genders etc. Does that make them more virtuous?
34:56 - Equality of outcome
36:35 - What do you do with disspossed people (people with low IQ)?
38:06 - Radical left is compassion gone mad ...... and envy
41:19 - Life is not a game. It is a series of games
48:06 - how to behave when you lose
53:07 - Rule 4: Compare yourself to who were yesterday not to who someone is today (from Peterson's 12 Rules book)
01:01:42 - Why do you have to aim low to improve?
01:10:32 - Why is Peterson's book an antidote to chaos if chaos has so much potential? and being critically honest with yourself
01:16:20 - Why bother thinking?
01:18:14 - Meaning is an instinct and responsibility makes your life more meaningful
01:25:23 - Why is Jordan Peterson misrepresented so much?
01:31:33 - Incels and enforced monogamy
01:40:48 - Women are hypergamous
01:48:38 - The gender pay gap
01:51:31 - Tempramental differences between men and women
01:56:44 - Left wing people a motivated by compassion but also envy
01:59:48 - Who's the 1% ?
02:01:44 - Why are people opposed to challenging cultural norms ?
02:05:39 - Peterson's Vice interview and sexual behaviour in the workplace
02:17:14 - It isn't necessarily a mistake to lay yourself open to attack.....(Cathy Newman interview)
02:21:32 - Should Peterson stop doing interviews that'll be edited to avoid controversies?
02:23:58 - Peterson didn't plan to go from University proffesor to household name
02:27:13 - Why Joe Rogan is successful on youtube according to JP and technological revolution of speech being as good as written word
02:37:36 - 12 Rules for not allowed to be a New York Times best seller due to arbitrary rules
02:38:58 - Death spiral for a big organisation, click bait, and news becoming ideological
02:44:42 - JPs carnivore diet
02:57:24 - Why is everyone fat and stupid?
03:00:29 - Arthiritis and fasting
03:06:23 - Are dietry studies reliable ?
03:10:59 - Biological variability and diet
03:13:43 - The intellectual dark web
YOU ARE A FUCKING GOD! THANK YOU!
This is a great recap. ❤️🩹
Thank your for the timestamps 💎
You're a real hero 🙂🙂🙂
Excellent!!!
Thank you for putting in the effort
Thank You So Much Jacky! 👍
Four years ago! Wow love going back and seeing these old treasures ❤
This is one of the most important conversations of the modern century.
Jordan peterson is a beacon of light in a world that is starving for deep meaningful conversation
Not only starving for but there’s more than a basic deeper need to hear him. I just discovered him - just started listening to Joe and although I’m that ‘classic’ right winger, these 2 men have impressed upon me a strong desire to listen/learn more from them both. I’d much rather listen to meaningful conversation than anything else. Hard to believe this is 3 years old….
Lmao no it’s just you that needs someone to tell them to clean up their room
@@cameronpatterson130 that's a pure statement of ignorance.
@@zacharyhusk4649 also the correct syntax is “statement of pure ignorance”
@@cameronpatterson130 That's hysterical coming from a person with the IQ of 80
I'm so happy jordan is feeling better ,health wise,and has been busy. I can listen to him for days
The level of self-awareness and objectivity Peterson has is absolutely incredible.
Your fellow Albertans love you!
not a usual interview main stream news! no agenda driven questions. a great source of information, that is a pleasure to view. no wonder why you are leading the industry. keep up the good work.
41:50, this life advice from JP killed it. How to teach your kid the MEANING behind why it's not whether you win or lose but how you play the game. Amazing.
In his other lectures, he says its not about winning, its about being invited to play, which opens you up to win the greatest number of games
"You absolute son of a bitch." xD
Im studying physical eduaction and i work with kids playing games all the time and this type of stuff is so hard to teach. Im going to have to listen to this podcast so many times so till i can nail my own understanding
JRE Clips please clip this segment out as a separate video, it is so powerful for parents, especially new ones like me.
The thing is, coming from a coach, (hard to listen to 2 non coaches talk about pedagogy) is that if you scale and structure the teaching correctly, you dont have to try to push a meaning onto anything, as the structure of the class holds it within it. the conflict comes when you scale and progress the class unnaturally for their abilities and stress means you try to teach meaning directly, and in the face of skill acquisition and a score keeping game like soccer, you end up bombarding kids with 3 levels of nuance that causes even more confusion and stress. Like the 'medium is the message', the structure and scale of the class carries the pedagogical meaning within it as to not be overtly obvious to the kid, like in school, when you re in 4th grade, you do not realize that you re preparing for precal but the curriculum is set up, to scale, for that process to happen subconsciously. You do not try to teach a 4th grader that in 8 years you are going to need to know how to do huge equations so you can get into college, cos all they ll ask is 'whats college?' and you ve confused and stressed the shit out of them when you re trying to teach them simple math.
3 hour podcast with JP provides more valuable info than 3 weeks of most school
3 years...3 decades...
All depends on your interests and what helps you take in information my friend. That’s why so many people don’t like school, it doesn’t appeal to everyone’s preference of learning.
@@aydenritzrow5366 Right,?! people youst to tell me that math was correct but I know numbers arent real. its just the man trying to get me down and make me believe the earth is round! Thats why I dropped school. now Im following my preference of learning by watching youtube and sniffing paint....
That's the truth !
@@ebyo343 Extremist, maybe?
This is pure gold, you gents are filled with strong ideologies and knowledge! Stay prosper Joe and Jordan!
Jordan Peterson's great mastery of language gets you hooked.
"It's not acting according to a set of rules, It's attempting to continually transcend the flawed thing that you currently are". Brilliant, and I need to hear stuff like that because it's both tough and uplifting at the same time.
I hear you, man. It's like you have to come in terms with your own flaws and addictions, take responsability for them, and work towards be better today than you were yesterday.
DRAW JUICE Chris Petrocchi 🔥🔥🔥 #BARS
DrawJuice, Ain't That the truth.!
Jordan Peterson is the only person who makes me want to clean my room
EDIT: Woah, thanks for all the likes peeps! And for the record, I have been cleaning my room! Hahahaha. y'all are fantastic, much love
Ben Vu clean your room bucko 🤣🤣
I listened to this on my way home, immediately cleaned my living room upon entry lol
Ben Vu except he doesn’t live his life the way he tells others too.
@Mr. Bum Tickler the prior commenter was making a reference to Dr Peterson's recent medical problems and severe health scares. Unfortunately they seem to have either misread, been misinformed, or misunderstood what was presented to them.
The gist is that Dr Peterson had an extremely severe reaction to a Benzodiazipine he had been proscribed by his doctor. Benzos are also extremely addictive even in prescription doses, and the withdrawal can be life threatening. Dr Peterson tried tapering and micro tapering the meds but wasn't able to detox, so he and his family took him to a specialist clinic in Russia to detox and he was in a medically induced coma for quite awhile. He's now out of the coma and starting to recover, but has a long way to go. The real kicker that makes all this so much worse, is that all this happened and he was proscribed the meds to deal with severe depression as his wife has terminal cancer. AFAIK she's still alive, but IDK what her condition is like.
TLDR my reading is that the prior poster was implying that Dr Peterson had abused prescription meds instead of becoming addicted even while following the Dr's instructions, and then having an extreme reaction to the same meds.
I actually cleaned my room .....
i was deep asleep and this podcast was on. i thought i was in a dream but i could hear and pickup every word like he was speaking to me. i cried in my sleep i had that "moment" when the tv or video was talking at me directly. this is no coincidence.. everything he said about being in a dark place and cleaning up etc i have been and still am for 5 years now. cant believe this was 4 years ago. 😞 thankful to have come across this
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The ultimate therapy ,so grateful 🙂
I love to see Jordan comfortable, relaxed, and happy. And excited. This man deserves goodness, it is so sad people want to break this. That’s their problem not his. Love you Jordan keep well.
He's made it through the storm and can keep on going, so I think he's going to be fine. Just a shame he has some non-nonsensical views sprinkled across his largely reasonable worldview and value set.
W H non-nonsensical would be sensical 😂
Craig Adam Check Theo Von and JBP interview. JP was having a really good time there. :)
Craig Adam well said.
Right On Craig! Logic, Truth and common Sense are all under attack. Follow the narrative regardless of truth. We are in trouble here in America. Take care my friend 🙂
Wow! Imagine a host actually letting the guest finish their thought without interrupting! Thanks Joe!
deeaplw they are having a discussion not an interview
Joe is a great interviewer but I believe he sold out. He used to challenge everything but now he goes along with everything. He's now Joe mainstream who uses people's fake gender pronouns and caves to all sorts of political correctness.
Yup, he let the guy get away with dropping bombs pushing his false narrative of "equality of outcome" when the reality is the equality being fought for is equality of opportunity.
People given the opportunity to succeed, without being stopped due to race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, whatever. He's subtly making it seem like the other side wants the result to be pre-determined. In other words, he's completely misrepresenting the argument... shocking.
Yeah because no one wants quota, or blames any group for oppressing another group without any evidence!
Jordan is very interesting + very assertive, so that helps
Jordan Peterson in my whole existence, one of the most philosophical, logical, rich knowledged and aware more than any full american city, i dont adore people nowdays, but man god damned i see him close to Plato and much more, he is a benefit to any generation from the past till the future ones, hands down from Romania!
It is hard to believe how people misunderstand Dr. Peterson......Good GOD, he is about improving the human condition, taking away personal excuses......and increasing personal accountability.
1:07:25 this man really cares about his message. You can see how much he was choking up, this is a man who wants to help people.
I love that Dr. Peterson's incremental self-improvement is striving to be more effective at helping people. He is on fire and everyone benefits from his success.
He is the only psychologist that I have seen or have known of that actually is affective in helping people.
'As far as im concerned' sums him up really.
This conversation was exceptional in value. I've lost many things in life, a wife, a son, lots of time with the wrong people, etc. My family came to the U.S. as immigrants and survivors of war, genocide, and poverty. Learning English as a 3rd language and going through most of my life in this country has given me lots of perspective from a multi-cultural approach, leading me to being an avid reader; on average I try and complete 10-20 books a month and depending on the book itself I have detailed notes, papers, and writings that help me in the understanding and dissecting of ideas, concepts, stories, and other writings presented in the texts I read. I believe, life is an ongoing battle between the fact that life is never going to stop for anyone and being subject to this truth we need to make the absolute most of the time we do have on this Earth. We must improve ourselves daily throughout the divine pathway that is our life, and do so with humility and patience, with respect to our fellow human being. We are either the chaos or the order within the universe, I think God gave us the intuition and heart to understand this deeply. Thank you for what you do Joe Rogan and bringing the guests you do on your show. Peace.
I love that you can see Jordan's passion. When he looks away and takes a sec he's holding back tears at times cause he really feels the point he's trying to express. I really feel that.
Well yeah man I think he is so emotional because on some level it’s so simple, yet most are struggling
Mr R, I know!! Sometimes Im listening for that pause and short breathe 👂🏽👂🏽✨🎶
He is a very sensitive human being, that's for sure.
Which topics makes him emotional?
@@mcseedat when you watch the whole thing you'll see the emotion come to his face. Like when he talking about his daughters illness and how some of what she was doing helped his own issues. Watch the whole thing and you'll see.