Victrix BFG Pro Controller Review-Wireless Gambit For PS5?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Following the success of the Victrix Gambit "The Fastest Xbox Controller" (not without an overclock) PDP released a $180 wireless pro controller for PS5/PC featuring 4 rear buttons (major step up from the Gambit), the same 5 way "Clutch" trigger stop system, swappable thumbstick caps (although not very good), and a 2 year warranty which dare I say...is a pro. There are some shortcomings with this gamepad such as overall build quality and the lack of 4 features present in a stock Dualsense controller.
PDP Victrix Pro BFG Wireless Controller for PS5
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0:00 Intro
1:17 Packaging and Included Accessories
9:10 Swappin' Modules
10:32 Cosmetics
11:53 Weight, Measurements
12:03 Ergonomics/Comfort
13:12 Build Quality
14:48 Warranty
14:56 Dpad
16:29 Fight Pad
16:57 Face Buttons
17:38 Accessory Buttons
18:23 Thumb-sticks
20:55 Bumpers
21:23 Triggers
22:59 Rear Buttons/Paddles
25:59 Stock Input Delay
27:20 Overclocked Performance
31:17 Tournament Lock
31:48 Software
33:21 Cons
35:15 Pros
36:02 Verdict
37:26 Outro
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For the tournament lock button btw, the reason it exists is because at fighting game tournaments you have to forfeit a round if you accidentally pause the game
@llify it happens lol
@Llify you can bruh moment it until you realize you're doing a combo that's hard to execute that'll win you the game or are applying pressure on your opponent only for them to pause on accident ruining your momentum or inputs. Then it's like wtf man.
You pause. you lose a round period
@Llify I mean if you accidently pause in your own combo you'd have to pick up where it left off. A lot times if both agreed to even let it run, you'd have to know the last timing. In tournament set I don't see that happening, especially if they're playing for money. Then you gotta continue the next game a game down and possibly fighting from an abrupt momentum stop. Not saying someone still wins but mentally that does affect people in live tournaments. That actually happened to my opponent he paused and it triggered him and he fucking raged. I said let it run but he was so fucked in the head from his own shit, that I won the set and advanced.
It also happened to me sorta in a similar fashion where in tournament the screen blanked out and the first thought was to pause where we were. The screen came back. I had the opponent with oki before pause, he said let its ok to let it rock (he's a great guy, I just met him that day lol but we became good friends) and the shift in adrenaline to calm from pausing to talking about it fucked me up pretty bad ended up losing when I had the game.
Could say I choked in that instance but there's a lot of factors in live tournaments
@Llify LMAO
@llify You definitely read it, realized you were wrong and didn't know what else to say lol
You were burning the midnight oil to get this one done this quick sir, great quality and a good time as always, keep doing the lords work. Appreciate you brother.
FACTS! I bet some much goes into making a video like this that a person like me has No idea about.
Dude I was grinding to get this one out in a timely manner while still being as in depth as I could be. Appreciate you watching
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Great vid but you missed one thing, if you use wired mode on PC and boot up fortnite, the touchpad is incompatible on PC. I reached out to Victrix and they advised this as well. For all the money you pay for this, I expected to bind whatever buttons I feel like, even the touchpad. That was a deal breaker for me and sent it back for a refund.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial hello friend but the software on pc for the victrix pro ps5 still doesn't work? Thank you
Gotta say, you going through that paper pamplet and softcopy manual and not just throwing it away like most other content creator would, made my day. I'm a technical writer. :) and agree, they should have given more proper documentation for such premium product.
As soon as I saw this controller I knew this would be perfect for the steamdeck. It would keep me prepared for alot more situations and I would not need to pack multiple controllers. MIne came a couple of days and I like it alot, Great review!
very detailed and honest review. good to see someone talking honestly about its weaknesses
I love this controller. The ONLY thing I wish it had was rumble and haptics. I liked the DS edge but the only thing it was missing was four rear buttons. So close to perfect.
It's funny because those are features I absolutely didn't mind not having. In competitive games I turn them off. I also don't mind not having the adaptive triggers because the feature is distracting and provides more points of failure for the controller.
Yup, tragic fail having only 2 extra. So close to being a safe 1st party pic
Having both the Edge and Victrix Pro BFG I honestly don't notice the lack of vibration or haptics like I thought I would. Playing shooters I was definitely far more accurate with the BFG than I was with the Edge. I used it in the PlayStation configuration and it just feels better in hand to me. The Edge does feel more premium though. Still the 20hr battery life is definitely something I appreciate. Using the Edge with haptics and vibration off to mimic the BFG still only got me like 7hrs battery.
Just got mine delivered and was looking for this video. Perfect
The little tootsie roll actually does serve a purpose though. It's a ferrite bead to reduce emi which is nice to have especially on a long cable.
Great reviews as always. Saved me from buying quite a few controllers I had my eyes on. I mainly wanted a premium controller that works well for Street Figher 6 as well, but for 200 EUR I feel like they need to make it feel somewhat premium.
I've seen other reviewers give it the "squish test" and it sound like a rusty ass door. Hope PFP's next installment gets more love on that front.
DualSense edge half dome back buttons is a game changer for me as I always have inadvertent presses with other back button systems 😅
I know it’s probably been said but your intro is pure gold…
It hasn’t in a while. Thank you Straw Giant
Hi, i do own one of these and i'm good with this controller. If the PS5 Edge would have had 4 paddles, the Edge would be the one for me 💁🏻♂️.
Fair & unspoilt, it's the best review i"ve seen on YT. ✌️ 🇩🇪
Wonderful display of your controller knowledge. Picking the Victrix up for sure.
* I have that Alexa Ghost paper weight as well. So sad.
Review of Review: 9.22L7
(I have a system here following the scientific method 🧑🏻🔬)
Love the detailed vid bro. I just got controller yesterday at bestbuy. I think they fix some of the things u mention. When i heard and seen u sqeeze the controller and it made all that noise. I was like wtf. But it fills like it harder now and mine did not do that.
Keep it up, man. Best reviews and most entertaining.
Awesome as always! I cannot wait for the ps vr review! :)
The “tootsie roll” as you called it is an in-line filter to get rid of some signal noise.
I got mine 3 days ago 10/10 like the idea of the fight pad.
Brilliant video, love how much info you put into them, the controller looks good, decent triggers, shame about the build quality and thumb sticks etc.
A second in and I know it’s gonna be 🔥. And thank u Kevin for such a quick quality upload.
I watched the intro back like a hundred times after I edited it, I think it turned out sick lol. Controller "BFG", Doom "BFG" it fits perfectly. You are very welcome.
I'm planning on getting this to use as a fightpad. Seems to be perfect for that.
Thank you Gamer Heaven for this honest review.
I bought mine on February the 3rd in Marseille France in an official reseller store (Micromania, a GameStop subsidiary in France).
I returned it back to the store 5 days later
Like you I was impressed by the modularity option that comes with the pad ....
Yet I quickly got upset by 3 things:
Battery life first . The "upto 20h" advertised by the manufacturer is a hoax. Without the led and without plugging headset in, you get barely 11h on PS5. 7 to 8h with headset plugged in.
The headjack port is poor quality. My headset mic was never recognised correctly. It is with the normla dual sense pad and my elitesm S2.
Finnaly The software: you'll just get an update day one and that's it. Pdp didn't yet released an other update to activate the button remap via their hub software.
In addition the customer service is almost non existent. They never came back to me despite my 2 long emails written in English.
No more pdp products for me in the future.
This pad have been released unfinished.
Returned it and got myself a COupon of 200e to preorder the dual sense edge.
End of story.
I used to run large (100+ people) fighting game tournaments. Tournament mode is probably referring to the rules in those tournaments.
If someone hits pause or any of those buttons to pull you out of the combat in a fighting game. That person, even if accident, loses that set. (sometimes if their opponent says it's okay they are allowed a reset of the match. But I never recommend they do this)
So that's what it means if "kicked out of the tournament" as you might already be in losers bracket and barely surviving your second set out of three of you slip on finger sweat and pause the game.
I've seen it happen. It sucks. But some people do use it to cheat. So blanket rule.
This is also why fight sticks have their pause buttons and stuff on the back of the board from you, so it's harder and very improbable that you accidentally hit one.
I'm not even in the market for a controller but I love these reviews.
Nice review. Do you know another wireless fightpad (6 inline buttons) option por PS4 &5 or this is the unique option of the entire world? I couldnt find another...
OMG, i just got this thing. I bought a PS5 2 months ago (lifetime Xbox and PC player). I cannot use the F'n Dualsense for more than like 30 minutes. It was hard to justify $180 just for the Xbox shell and stick layout - I also have the Gambit - which is okay but the back buttons suck. I can imagine lifetime Sony users disliking this thing... unless specifically for the fightpad... but this is the answer for Xbox controller lovers wanting to play a few PS5 games! Back buttons honestly fit my fingers better than any other controller I've tried too! Spot on with your descriptions.
Great review per usual. What control would you recommend with 4 paddles and profile switching? I mainly play single player games like god of war or star wars
This channel deserves a million subs
To test the input delay, which program did you use to spoof it? I couldn't tell from the video. I was also curious if you found that REWASD wouldn't get higher than 250hz
what I'm wondering is, if it automatically registers as an xinput on pc mode, maybe setting it to another mode and spoofing it could allow a better OC. I think i was able to do something similar with another controller
Something I just now noticed and really like, this controller uses swappable thumbsticks with metal shafts to help prevent wear.
That is nice af
@@GamerHeavenOfficial that is something I hope they do in the Xbox version of this controller slated for release in February. This may be my next new controller instead of the turtle beach ultra.
those ferrules have magnets in them and condition the current passing through the wires, reducing noise. They're not useless, they're just not necessary in most use cases. MFGs build them in for the small percentage of people with noise coming across their USB bus for whatever reason
Awesome video as always
You rock!
Love your content bro! 1 question: can you flip the right module like the left so that the analog stick is on top? Always wanted to try a controller with both analog sticks on top
Bro. I feel like this was your best review video to date. Definitely the beez neez
That means a lot coming from you man, thanks alot!
Bro I fucking love your intro it’s so good 💖
I 100% agree with this review and it definitely is the most thorough… although build quality isn’t the greatest, it does it’s job well when playing shooters. KontrolFreeks thumb enhancements don’t fit but their precision ring works great on it.
I heard the xbox kontrol freeks fit this controller.
I just bought mine, and I'm not getting the criticism; either pdp fixed that issue, or I'm just not trying to strangle my controller the same way everyone else is lol
Can firmware updates decrease the polling rate? 8ms seems high as even the stock Dualsense is less and this is suppose to be for tournaments as well?
Can you replace the thumbsticks (the base of it) with ps4 thumbsticks? Asking because I'm also not a fan of the narrow thumbsticks and I'd rather use the ps4 Kontrol Freeks that I'm used to instead of the taller one thats included. Thanks. Great video!
Great vid, Great review! The reason I'm most interested in this controller is the Fight Pad and was wondering if this controller was worth it just for the Fight Pad or is there a better option?
Question: I'm currently using a dongle for my wireless headset on PS5 and other USB is used up by external HD for PS4 library... So obviously I have to disconnect something. So does Dualsense edge require a dongle?...might be be returning the Victrix I got today.
Just bought this badboy and ofc i cant say much since its my first day with it but im already loving it so much, it its super comfortable
Are you still liking it ? I just ordered mine and I’m excited . It’s my first ever pro controller
@@haymkrr yea , its still great . Not using it a lot rn since i dont play cod rn but its still waaay better than my dualsense edge , especially with how much longer the battery lasts
@@lur460 I ordered mine not long after asking . I love mine probably going to order another one. Their on sale right now
This dude the goat just bought one to see if I like it and I think they fixxed some of the build issues cause I can't get it to flex like you did in the video and I ride crotch rockets for fun so it's not a grip issue I think they added a few supports or somthin the triggers still sound hollow asf tho wish ya could put like hot glue or puddy in the triggers to make em sound a bit better but I'm sure it would affect the way it works if I did
i was looking at this controller and glad i saw the review but i don't think i was going to get one anyway. my hesitance was for a different reason. i'm concerned about the fact that it's a modular controller. i had an Astro C40 for my PS4 and after about four months the L3 (press in on the left stick) stopped working. i ended having to map a back button for it as i play a lot of FPS and the L3 is setup as the "run" action which is definitely needed in these types of games. not sure if this would have the same issue or not but didn't want to drop another $180 (there is now a $200 call of duty limited edition version as well) to have that happen again. didn't know as much about the build quality but glad you got in depth on those as well.
That intro was great. Made me stop and think 'oh shit, this is gunna be good, and I cancelled the pre order" . In the end I went with the edge just because of all the delays. Dunno why they didn't give you one earlier, best review.
Let’s not forgot that stock drift is innately present with any stock based custom controller. 😂
I just got the COD Las Almas gold version of this beast during amazon’s recent sale for only $169.99…and I love it!
Man these are the reviews I was hoping for. In depth analysis with objective information and subjective input/ opinion. Minus the fanboy state of mind.
Thank you for that Kenny powers snippet.
That was a sick intro
Great review man, been excitedly waiting for this one for a while. One QQ, do kontrol freeks fit?
Yes, the Xbox one /series x Kontrol Freeks fit perfectly on the bfg.
Can you switch the d-pad to top right side of the controller? If so does it still control movement.
Hey buddy, you got the Victrix Pro BFG for Xbox on the way yet now that it's out? And if so hopefully you do a video soon cus I'm considering giving it a shot but not till my Gamepad guru gives it the aok
I LOVE the placement of the 4 back buttons on the Victrix bfg pro controller , it feels the closest to elite series 2 of any controller you will find for ps5 .
So far I’ve tried scuf and battle beaver and the Victrix bfg pro is my favorite ps5 pro controller by far
But you can't map the shoulder buttons 🤦♂️
@@samuraistatus6798 really? I don’t do that anyway but couldn’t you do it in the system settings tho
Have you been able to get the controller to turn on the PS5 while on sleep mode? I have the usb plugged in and when I hit the ps button it just keeps flashing
Did you check latency and overclocking with a 3rd party cable in wired mode? Insuring that the cable is not holding it back. If that is even a possibility.
Hi Kevin, how are you? Do you know of any module for the Victrix besides the one advertised on Amazon? Epindon Victrix Pro BFG Wireless Controller Replacement Stick Module Kit for Right Stick (Playstation 5 / PS5). Thanks
Those are currently the only ones I know about. Have a good one Mario.
Was able to try the Edge, Razer Wolverine, and this Victrix.
I couldn't get used to only have two paddles, so the Edge was out. The Razer, as you said, was super uncomfortable. Who tested that? The Victrix was super comfy, 4 buttons and honestly haven't minded the build quality at all.
Appreciate your reviews to set expectations but always good to try yourself as well.
Probably a dumb question, but I am curious about the configuration for the right joystick. Can that be positioned above the action buttons so the layout is like a Wii U pro controller? I am guessing that could cause issues with button configurations, but I am curious. I really find that layout to be comfortable an wish it was a more popular layout.
The synopsis is that this controller is great, but dont squeeze it to death or throw it at a wall
I've been looking for a ps5 controller with an Xbox layout for the longest, is this controller recommend or are their better options?
I have this controller now, but I really want to change the inputs, because I'm more of a Fighting Game Player and want to utilize the 6 button layout and having 2 R1/R2 Binds is not ideal. Other Controllers like the Fighting Commander or Razer Raion have a switch to change the Shoulder button inputs into L3/R3 and L1/L2 layout, which is great. I really hope you can do that in the software, but yea, I have to wait I guess...
Also, I'm more on PC, so the lack of PS5 exclusive features are not big of a deal for me.
Can you remap the L1, L2 buttons to the other side (R1, R2) similar to most fightpads?
This is by far the best video for
One thing that I'm waiting for is hall effect ps5 controller. I also didn't hear in the pros and cons or the thumbstick part if this controller uses hall effect. Could you make it clear when a controller doesn't have it or by definition, if you don't mention it we can assume it doesn't have it?
he didnt list it in pros and cons but he did mention they are alps when he was in the joypad tester section.
That was a pretty asmriffic intro
i have a 2 questions, does the touchpad actually works like a ps touchpad? (i mean, u can use it to move around and type in a chat or so) and also, how does the pc registers it, as a ps4 controller, a ps5 controller, or like a generic controller?
Got my bfg pro today and my razer V2 pro on the 12th the bfg pro is great I'm a fan I also have 2 hex gaming remotes and an Astro C40
Man, I cannot believe they skimped on Rumble... I'll probably get it when it's in the bargain bin for Tekken 8.
Great review bro!
Where did you get that Ace of Spades HC? Is that custom made?
My current favorite controller is Astro with battle beavers heavy extreme tension toggles. Regardless of the issue with the wear and tear of the 2 back buttons I love that controller. I recieved my Pro BFG yesterday and wish the build quality felt like my asto. I have to get use to the less tension from the thumbs stick since I love the heavy tension from battle beaver offers on the c40. I hove battle beaver will offer replacements for the BFG and offer the extreme tension. But I did enjoy using this PRO BFG controller with the extra 2 back buttons compared to my c40. I'm really going to miss using my c40 😔 now that I'm going to make the BFG my main first-person shooter controller.
Does not work on PS5 titles period
How do u enjoy the c40? It feels too wide for me
Just a little helpful info but those plastic humps that you have on some premium usb type cables is actually a built in In-Line fuse
can the right stick module be inverted 180 to achieve a wii u pro controller/steamdeck-ish layout?
Great review as usual! Mine is still on preorder so who knows when it arrives.
I love the short trigger travel but the input delay is concerning when compared to the Edge. Then again, I’m no esports athlete so my KD rating probably won’t even notice!
Thanks Darren. Hopefully soon, where did you order from? Yeah input delay isn't a personal concern of mine either, but the Edge has impressed me over the last few days, I'm actually liking those metal half domes on the back, and the rubber grips feel wonderful
I ordered from Walmart Canada but it keeps getting pushed back. I’m debating trying to cancel the preorder and go for the Edge. The build quality just seems so much better and the integration with the PS5 seems so seamless.
Keep up the awesome work!
I recieved my order yesterday from best buy. Took 2 weeks to get from order.
can you buy modules individually or do you have to buy a new controller
Damn i was interested in this controller but being polling rate locked is just a no go for me nowadays! Sticking to my custom dualsense for now lol. Great review kev
can you even tell the difference? I have this controller and literally thought it was more responsive than my ps5 controller till I just saw this video.
@@progz5232 95% of gamers cant tell the difference, they just do their fancy polling tests and see a number difference and think its making an impact in how they play but the reality is its irrelevant in almost every case.
@@progz5232 same. I have elite series 2, razer wolverine v2 pro, and a modded dual sense and although all of them have a better polling rate, I’m more accurate and feel like the bfg is more responsive which is against logic based on the data. Shrugs
@@MuseR. between a rate that miniscule youd have to be actively trying to find the difference cos i promise for most ppl if they werent told the difference they wouldnt even know there is one
@@PowderedNuts If someone is used to 500 (2ms) or 1000 Hz (1ms), then going back down to 125 (8ms) or 250 Hz (4ms), a competitive player can immediately feel the difference. If you don't care about it, then that's fine. But it's not irrelevant at all.
Can you buy replacement thumb stick modules? I can’t find them online if so
If you had to choose just one. Would get this controller or the Sony one?
Maybe it's just my controller and it's just user preference but the Triggers are very very sensitive even in the lowest setting. Barely resting my fingers on the trigger will activate the trigger pull which is great in some scenarios when you are trying to rapid fire a semi auto but it also results in unintended fire.
I have exactly the same but getting used to
Im still using the normal dualsense and I've been on the fence for the longest time. If the edge hadn't been released I would've gotten the hypr, but now I can't really decide anymore 😅
Don’t get the hypr. Although it’s been a good controller for fps the durability of the controller is questionsome. My first experience was a defect in the back buttons not actuations which might be a rare phenomenon but then 2 months later I experienced stick drift and L1 button was jammed. Sending it back took 3-4 months twice and their customer service was awful. Although I think hypr might have the very slightest edge for fps games, I think the edge provides competitiveness and durability long term
As someone who has more controllers than necessary, I think the missing thing about your reviews is a proper review on the dpad for fighting games. Too often, I bought controllers that have too stiff dpads, or the opposite, mushy ones. As a reference, the DS4 dpad is a tad stiff and while I can still be accurate with it, it ain't good for long sessions of SF6. The retro-bit Sega Genesis ones are the best silicone ones, while I think the Flydigi Apex 3's microswitches one are top tier for accuracy and comfort.
The BEST CONTROLLER REVIEWER ON THE PLANET. THANK YOU
I use setting 5 for my trigger stops and even when im resting my fingers on the triggers it activates them triggers i tried going in the pc app which number would i need to use when changing the deadzone so it only activated when i press and not activate with the SLIGHTEST touch to the trigger
I love that you don't use a sure microphone. Thank God bc jeez does everyone use that when it is not the only good mic on the market
As much as I want to try this controller out.... my xbox version got bad stick drift within 6 weeks of purchase. I'm so skeptical of trying this brand again.
I wonder if Beaver, Aim, Scuf etc. will custom these or the Dualsense edge if beaver or aim 3rd party’s the edge it’s over with I’ll be 1 of the first in line I hate they only went with 2 buttons on the edge
can afford these but love the reviews none the less
Can you do a updated review on the app for this controller?
This controller reminds me of the Astro C40 TR controller which I use to own and had a lot of connection issues with I’m not a big fan of third party controllers that don’t have the stock controller base of a PS or XB controller
So what is the best controller for competitive call of duty on PC that I can buy at a store?
I'd like this to be compared as a PC controller against the Gambit. Your old review is missing the input latency and analogue test stuff so not sure which one to pick up.
Buy the gambit it’s confirmed to be capable of 1000hz with overclock. The low polling rate on the Bfg is why I opted out
Tournament mode is stock for fighting game tournaments which i like, im still undecided on this pad
Finally... been waiting for this one :D
I cancelled my pre-order after it got delayed for the 3rd or 4th time and now I'm not really regretting it... the low build quality is really killing it. A huge part of a controller is how it feels and if it feels cheap and frail then it's not a good buy in the long run
Good review! Seems like quality is kind of the same as the PDP Afterglow. Really cheap plastic and that controller failed on me in a couple of months. So i got a refund and went with the Turtle beach react-r which has the same poor cheap plastic quality and i already have a problem with that one also. I'm starting to consider Thrustmaster E-swap x pro controller.
So u can play ps5 version with the analog in the top left instead of the middle area like the xbox?
For me, the driver conflict message was caused by the reWASD service. I uninstalled the app and the actual windows service using BCUninstaller and the controller was detected on my Win11 PC just fine.
Crazy that the build quality is not great because their fightstick quality are amazing they’re built with anodized aluminum and use sanwa parts for the buttons and lever
I have the controller. I ordered it in November and they just sent it last Saturday lol smh(Amazon). Your review is spot on. My biggest complaint is the build quality. I feel like im going to get a hairline fracture in whatever board is inside eventually. That said the controller is comfortable like you said. I bought the controller because it covered my competitive shooter and fighting game needs at the same time. That's why I went with it instead of the DualSense Edge. I actually ran into an issue with mine already and that is that the dongle failed during the update and will not turn on at all now. So im in the process trying to get another one from PDP. In the meantime, i'm using it wired and having fun with it.😊
Do you know if it’s possible for a company to update there controller and unlock the polling rate? If so are there cases in the past where this has been done?
im trying to find out the same thing. Need to know whether or not I need to return it if its possible to unlock the polling rate from a simple software/firmware update.
Can I install different firmware to be able to overclock this controller?
Your videos keep getting better n better
I had to return my BFG. It didn’t feel like a pro controller n the slow polling rate confirmed if for me.
@@myytti16 it feels just like the Gambit with a slight rubber grip upgrade.
Is it very noticeable the input lag? Did you connect it to PS4/5 or PC?
I managed to order the controller on best buy about a week ago and it came in today. Maybe just some luck. But the pre orders on best buy go on and off so idk what's going on there
was using the battlebeavercustoms but switched over to the dualsense pro...Just because of the swappable left stick option