That would greatly reduce their content output. Since they don't choose which press vehicles are sent to them. The press vehicles generally are mid to high end to encourage viewers to want to spend more money on the extras. Manufacturers don't make big profit off making base model vehicles. Dealers want the more expensive models for the same reasons. IF consumers truly want to break this habit, they have to come together and stop buying anything other than base models and change the need to want ratio. But good luck with that.😉
Earlier this year we went to shop for a small SUV and every single Corolla Cross in a 50-mile radius of us had $5K market adjustment added to the price for every trim, even the lowest, and that's for the regular, non-hybrid version so I suspect the hybrids are going to be the same if not worse. We ended up getting the Mazda CX-30 for under MSRP.
@@tmwei396 I had a 21 cx30 for a while. Outside the inability to hold a rear facing car seat, I regret selling it. Only needed a headlight because the heatsink fan went bad, but it was far better than the rav my wife insisted in getting to replace it. Comfortable, quick, actual materials on the interior other than cheap plastic. Far, far better. I had a regular corolla cross as a rental and outside the powertrain and the seats, the thing honestly was kinda shitbox material. Built well, and got decent mileage, but man it really felt like low, low 20k range, not low 30s that they wanted for whatever trim it was
@@GeoBob-xf3hh It is enough for me. I don't need to have it that badly when there are plenty of other options around. I shouldn't have to work that hard to get them to take my money. They're the ones who need to work for my business, not the other way around.
I had two corolla, they were both amazing. My 96 drove better than my FRS, because it was so light. If you want a car that is reliable and cheap to own, these are the ideal cars. Alot of new cars put too much fancy stuff that cost so much when they break. Corolla is so simple, that is what is the best part of owning them. Nothing expensive to fix and drown you in debt.
It would be nice if you could get your video recording rate to sync up with the refresh rate of the lcd screen in the vehicle. Good, informative video.
My wife just bought a new CC Hybrid SE 2 days ago, so my own impressions are based on under 75 miles of driving. It's a pretty basic interior, and that's fine. I suspect it will hold up well. I do wish the SE had a few more visual upgrades over the S. You get a few extra features, but the cabin of the SE feels the same other than a leather wrapped wheel and shift paddles. Same goes for the exterior. I like the painted mirrors and roof rails on the SE, but I'd like to see fog lamps at least. I do think the extra $1300 for the SE is reasonable. We could have sprung for the XSE, but fake leather is a no-go (as would real leather). We didn't see the value in that extra price. It's a slightly bland appliance, but it rides nice and has good power thanks to the hybrid system. My wife loves it and I find it perfectly pleasant to be in. We're both happy and that's most important.
I Can't believe, or i don't understand why blind spot monitoring is not standard safety equipment on all new vehicles, (it's not like $30,000 is chump change) it's like night and day once you have a car that has the technology, i would never purchase another vehicle without it myself!
Seems like Toyota is particularly surcharging the Corolla Cross buyer: Corolla Cross base to hybrid upcharge is $4360.!! Rav 4 base to hybrid is $2450.-. (yes, that's going from FWD to AWD). The Corolla Sedan hybrid upcharge is $1350.- (yes, I know that car is FWD). This seems like a profit tax. Then there is the limited supply, this would make me look at other brands or if sticking with Toyota, then test the gas only Cross and see if it's satisfactory.
I'd rather get the naturally aspirated Corolla - 169 HP and 30 MPGs with all the accoutrements. If I go with hybrid, it will be RAV4 or CRV for just a couple grand more.
If it’s 29k mrsp what would be ideal out the door price on this vehicle would an xle be better off or L trim any idea would be greatful what people paid for the trim level god bless
For 30k we got a gorgeous Mazda 6 turbo with an interior looking 100 times better...but of course people didn't see the value in it, so they stopped making them
@@GLC-1979 ah yes those variable speed intermittent wipers and a photocell for automatic headlights is really killing cars reliability scores these days
@@palebeachbum the correct answer is buy a Mazda, almost there in terms of reliability my a massie upgrade in interior quality and driving dynamics. Hell my 23 highlander has already been back because the roof leaked.
@@Suction_ yeah Mazda makes nice cars and they seem a decent value. I can't say that surprises me about your Highlander though. I've been hearing a surprising number of complaints about Toyota quality the last few years and I can't claim to have had a great experience myself.
I kind of think Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid base model should sell for $26,000 instead of $29,000 cause for the cheapness it has in it. That's kind of asking a bit more it's not even an SE or higher trim level haha and yet this should be the cheapness smaller of the small CUV , I'm sure the reliability will stand by it.
how can you not fit a rear wiper on a boxy crossover i don't care about cutting corners you NEED one of those and you're making the car what. 500 dollars cheaper? out of 30k i think customers can take it....
Crosstrek is fun to drive.... in the snow, in sand, & dirt roads. The problem with the Crosstrek is not enough passing power on the highways trying to do an overtake and going up a hill with the ac on 😂😂 because it becomes a snail lol😅
How does Toyota want to compete with other brands when you can get a top of the line Chevy Trax Activ for $24,995. Yes Chevy May not be know for reliability but with newer cars lasting up to 100k with nothing more than regular maintenance why does it make sense to spend 5k more on a base model Toyota. I would even say that for that price difference you could even throw in an extended warranty to make up for any worries and still be underprice.
An AWD without a rear wiper is an oxymoron. Design the entire CUV to go more than just on asphalt and then in one minute you can no longer see out of the back. I get that you need to save on costs, but to lose your rear windshield? Also I hear that the front windshield doesn't have an intermittent speed. How irritating that would be, anywhere that it drizzles a lot.
Any Toyota hybrid, regardless of model, will either be presold before hitting the lot for a year or have a big market adjustment added to it. I'd look elsewhere. Honda hybrids, while slightly less efficient, are at least more readily available.
I am sorry, Tommy, but buying the base model is a pretty stupid recommendation. It does not have a blind spot monitor and RCTA. It's 2023, and these safety features are necessary and should be mandatory.
$28k! Ford Maverick hybrid order banks open in a couple of months get a better looking hybrid with more utility at a lower price. I don't understand people who buy these tiny compact SUV for that much money unless you are really pressed for space.
Ford Maverick is a truck! LOL why compare that with this??? Besides who wants to drive a freakin truck around town??? Unless you're hauling stuff which most people aren't. A truck maintenance will cost more in the long run and with gas prices so high why bother with a truck? Waste of monies that could spent on much better things.
No thanks. Just too much money. It seems like a base Maverick and base Jetta S 6MT are much better values. $29k is a lot for a durable, utilitarian tiny hybrid. Defeats the purpose of purchasing the hybrid version.
Ugggghh never buy a Jetta again. Had so many problems with my car. The transmission sucked to after year 4 of ownership. Never found a mechanic who could fix it. Loved how it drove and the interior craftsmanship was excellent but the reliability was crap. Never buying a VW again.
Sorry, but this is one of the ugliest CUVs in its class and it's also one of the worst-equipped and most expensive. Hard pass. My standards for car ownership are higher than simply wanting good reliability at the expense of literally everything else.
Absolute base model. Love it. TFL needs a channel called TFL ABM in which only absolute base model vehicles are reviewed. People need this.
TFL BareBones
That would greatly reduce their content output. Since they don't choose which press vehicles are sent to them. The press vehicles generally are mid to high end to encourage viewers to want to spend more money on the extras. Manufacturers don't make big profit off making base model vehicles. Dealers want the more expensive models for the same reasons. IF consumers truly want to break this habit, they have to come together and stop buying anything other than base models and change the need to want ratio. But good luck with that.😉
Unless you order one just try and find a base on the lot.
Missing rear wiper is a huge negative for the base S model.
Mind me asking what was your out the door price
Earlier this year we went to shop for a small SUV and every single Corolla Cross in a 50-mile radius of us had $5K market adjustment added to the price for every trim, even the lowest, and that's for the regular, non-hybrid version so I suspect the hybrids are going to be the same if not worse. We ended up getting the Mazda CX-30 for under MSRP.
outside the MPG, that cx30 is a far better car
@@Suction_ Yeah, fuel economy difference isn't enough to matter.
@@tmwei396 I had a 21 cx30 for a while. Outside the inability to hold a rear facing car seat, I regret selling it. Only needed a headlight because the heatsink fan went bad, but it was far better than the rav my wife insisted in getting to replace it. Comfortable, quick, actual materials on the interior other than cheap plastic. Far, far better. I had a regular corolla cross as a rental and outside the powertrain and the seats, the thing honestly was kinda shitbox material. Built well, and got decent mileage, but man it really felt like low, low 20k range, not low 30s that they wanted for whatever trim it was
50 miles is no where near enough.
@@GeoBob-xf3hh It is enough for me. I don't need to have it that badly when there are plenty of other options around. I shouldn't have to work that hard to get them to take my money. They're the ones who need to work for my business, not the other way around.
I had two corolla, they were both amazing. My 96 drove better than my FRS, because it was so light. If you want a car that is reliable and cheap to own, these are the ideal cars. Alot of new cars put too much fancy stuff that cost so much when they break. Corolla is so simple, that is what is the best part of owning them. Nothing expensive to fix and drown you in debt.
It would be nice if you could get your video recording rate to sync up with the refresh rate of the lcd screen in the vehicle. Good, informative video.
Been waiting 3 years for this on the east coast and it’s no where to be Effin Sceen Toyota really digging their own grave
My wife just bought a new CC Hybrid SE 2 days ago, so my own impressions are based on under 75 miles of driving. It's a pretty basic interior, and that's fine. I suspect it will hold up well. I do wish the SE had a few more visual upgrades over the S. You get a few extra features, but the cabin of the SE feels the same other than a leather wrapped wheel and shift paddles.
Same goes for the exterior. I like the painted mirrors and roof rails on the SE, but I'd like to see fog lamps at least.
I do think the extra $1300 for the SE is reasonable. We could have sprung for the XSE, but fake leather is a no-go (as would real leather). We didn't see the value in that extra price.
It's a slightly bland appliance, but it rides nice and has good power thanks to the hybrid system. My wife loves it and I find it perfectly pleasant to be in. We're both happy and that's most important.
I Can't believe, or i don't understand why blind spot monitoring is not standard safety equipment on all new vehicles, (it's not like $30,000 is chump change) it's like night and day once you have a car that has the technology, i would never purchase another vehicle without it myself!
Yeah I don't understand it either. It thought it was really cheap of Toyota not to include that in the base model. Not cool.
I'm buying one right now. Surprised by this as well. Especially when you consider the lane assist and adjusting speed control are included.
Seems like Toyota is particularly surcharging the Corolla Cross buyer: Corolla Cross base to hybrid upcharge is $4360.!! Rav 4 base to hybrid is $2450.-. (yes, that's going from FWD to AWD). The Corolla Sedan hybrid upcharge is $1350.- (yes, I know that car is FWD). This seems like a profit tax. Then there is the limited supply, this would make me look at other brands or if sticking with Toyota, then test the gas only Cross and see if it's satisfactory.
Does this have the same powertrain as the Prius or the Corolla hybrid?
I'd rather get the naturally aspirated Corolla - 169 HP and 30 MPGs with all the accoutrements. If I go with hybrid, it will be RAV4 or CRV for just a couple grand more.
I’d rather get a Camry hybrid because you get better mpg better performance and handing more space a nicer interior and a lot more features
Not a bad choice
I actually prefer the "plastic" steering wheel.
If it’s 29k mrsp what would be ideal out the door price on this vehicle would an xle be better off or L trim any idea would be greatful what people paid for the trim level god bless
For 30k we got a gorgeous Mazda 6 turbo with an interior looking 100 times better...but of course people didn't see the value in it, so they stopped making them
Fun but not for long term, just like bar girls.
@@tdgdbs1 Mazda is pretty reliable these days.
Good old toyota, 30k and you still get single speed intermittent wipers and manual headlights.
You're buying reliability.
@@GLC-1979 ah yes those variable speed intermittent wipers and a photocell for automatic headlights is really killing cars reliability scores these days
Toyota fanboy replies "bUt It'S rElIaBlE". Great, so you're stuck with an ugly, poorly equipped car for even longer. Explain how that's appealing? lol
@@palebeachbum the correct answer is buy a Mazda, almost there in terms of reliability my a massie upgrade in interior quality and driving dynamics. Hell my 23 highlander has already been back because the roof leaked.
@@Suction_ yeah Mazda makes nice cars and they seem a decent value. I can't say that surprises me about your Highlander though. I've been hearing a surprising number of complaints about Toyota quality the last few years and I can't claim to have had a great experience myself.
I hope Timmy had a pillow with ‘Absolute Base Model’ written on it
Who’s that?
I kind of think Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid base model should sell for $26,000 instead of $29,000 cause for the cheapness it has in it. That's kind of asking a bit more it's not even an SE or higher trim level haha and yet this should be the cheapness smaller of the small CUV , I'm sure the reliability will stand by it.
If you can find one.
Good luck finding a base model anywhere!
The total cost of ownership for a hybrid over 5 years will most likely be less than buying a regular base car
No transmission fluid changes every 30k miles, fewer oil changes because the engine is used less. You'll break even pretty soon.
Don't believe you can get a spare tire. True?
Nah got the top of the range hybrid for an extra 5g. It’s fkn awesome
The CC is the opposite of the elevated Venza.
The only problem im seeing with the base model is that it doesnt have heated mirrors
Visit dealerships and find out how many base models they currently have in their inventory...
Tommy dont be suprised with hybrids being quicker and sportier, Toyota is starting to make these “sport hybrids” eg this, new tundra/tacoma,etc
Just try to find one.
Im getring sleepy going into a coma just looking at it.
how can you not fit a rear wiper on a boxy crossover i don't care about cutting corners you NEED one of those and you're making the car what. 500 dollars cheaper? out of 30k i think customers can take it....
Why is the screen flickering?
The recording camera’s frame rate is the cause, not the vehicle.
Not marked up prices, NO way!
Crosstrek is fun to drive.... in the snow, in sand, & dirt roads. The problem with the Crosstrek is not enough passing power on the highways trying to do an overtake and going up a hill with the ac on 😂😂 because it becomes a snail lol😅
Any car is fun to drive on dirt roads…
Thankfully you can get the 2.5 now
How does Toyota want to compete with other brands when you can get a top of the line Chevy Trax Activ for $24,995. Yes Chevy May not be know for reliability but with newer cars lasting up to 100k with nothing more than regular maintenance why does it make sense to spend 5k more on a base model Toyota. I would even say that for that price difference you could even throw in an extended warranty to make up for any worries and still be underprice.
An AWD without a rear wiper is an oxymoron. Design the entire CUV to go more than just on asphalt and then in one minute you can no longer see out of the back. I get that you need to save on costs, but to lose your rear windshield? Also I hear that the front windshield doesn't have an intermittent speed. How irritating that would be, anywhere that it drizzles a lot.
Any Toyota hybrid, regardless of model, will either be presold before hitting the lot for a year or have a big market adjustment added to it. I'd look elsewhere. Honda hybrids, while slightly less efficient, are at least more readily available.
At this price get a Ford Maverick hybrid
@@marklihsu No thanks
Keep trying... or put down a deposit. It's possible!
Love the vehicle but $30k and no rear wiper is really cutting corners.
I would pay 14k for that, it's a little better than a PT Cruiser was.
No it is not
@@bobdylan6773 it's a modern day PT Cruiser
Grille gives me venza vibes
mention Features also please .....
There are plenty of channels that do that already... very tedious! 😑
Wonder why it has front and rear electric motors and not just in the rear?
Because it's based on a fwd car
I am sorry, Tommy, but buying the base model is a pretty stupid recommendation. It does not have a blind spot monitor and RCTA. It's 2023, and these safety features are necessary and should be mandatory.
Thanks Tommy ....have a good day everyone ✌️
$28k! Ford Maverick hybrid order banks open in a couple of months get a better looking hybrid with more utility at a lower price. I don't understand people who buy these tiny compact SUV for that much money unless you are really pressed for space.
No one want's junk like Ford
Ford Maverick is a truck! LOL why compare that with this??? Besides who wants to drive a freakin truck around town??? Unless you're hauling stuff which most people aren't. A truck maintenance will cost more in the long run and with gas prices so high why bother with a truck? Waste of monies that could spent on much better things.
Rav4 vibs
everything is perfect besides the basic cheap rubber steering wheel.
It makes zero sense to give steel wheels to this because it would add extra wight that would decrease fuel economy
I would still rather fix a old car
Total scam, no rear windshield wiper or defroster. What are you supposed to use a squeegee?
You bet your ass I'm buying a base model. It's still almost $30,000 vehicle with taxes.
150 + 150 = 196?
So pretty much a corolla station wagon on stilts and because it sits so high it has dorky handling.
but it's a crosssssoveeeerrrrrrrr and mamma needs her Starbucks drive through stance to be higher than the other bitches
So you are doing the Topher now? Please stop...
Honestly, this passive/aggressive comment just makes us want to do even more of these videos.
Wow he baited you so easily
This car is a perfect example why Tesla will end up killing the auto industry
No thanks. Just too much money.
It seems like a base Maverick and base Jetta S 6MT are much better values.
$29k is a lot for a durable, utilitarian tiny hybrid. Defeats the purpose of purchasing the hybrid version.
Just because you can't afford it means it is to much money.... many people can afford this!
Even a Camry hybrid is the same price yet you get 52mpg and more space
Ugggghh never buy a Jetta again. Had so many problems with my car. The transmission sucked to after year 4 of ownership. Never found a mechanic who could fix it. Loved how it drove and the interior craftsmanship was excellent but the reliability was crap. Never buying a VW again.
Sorry, but this is one of the ugliest CUVs in its class and it's also one of the worst-equipped and most expensive. Hard pass. My standards for car ownership are higher than simply wanting good reliability at the expense of literally everything else.