ENGINEER EXPLAINS 7 REASONS WHY THIS IS THE BEST COMPACT HYBRID SUV: 2023 HONDA CR-V HYBRID
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- Even though Automotive Engineer David Chao owns Toyota RAV4 Hybrid and RAV4 Prime (PHEV), he actually feels that the newly engineered 2023 Honda CR-V is the better hybrid SUV. In fact, David provides 7 reasons why he believes that the Honda CR-V is the best compact hybrid SUV/crossover in the market. Watch the entire video to find out why.
Automotive Press is owned and managed by David Koichi Chao, a global expert in the field of automotive evaluation, engineering, and strategy. With over 35 years of engineering experience, David is able to review vehicles from unique perspectives utilizing technical and specialized methods. David is a board member and a director at AJAC (Automobile Journalist Association of Canada).
David is known around the world as an authentic specialist of Lean/Agile Thinking, and travels all around the world to review vehicles and teach latest engineering methods. Born and raised in Japan, David has an engineering degree from University of British Columbia and post-graduate education from MIT and Harvard Business School in Boston. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Short, complete and excellent. A review by an engineer is noticeably better than the rest.
We have a 2021 Honda CR-V and just purchased a 2024 Honda CR-V Hybrid sport. Love them both. Yes! you can feel the improvement in the steering and the added room makes the 2024 even better.
Love the “hype-free”, critical and thoughtful analysis. Great job!
Easy to be hype free about a boring crossover
Best review, David. Love the fact that you're an engineer reviewing cars.
When we ordered our 2022 Rav4 Hybrid in December 2021, Honda still had the old one out so we easily opted for the Rav4. If this one was out, it would harder to decide. We do average 41.9mpg at the pump after a little over 20,000 miles though with our Rav4. Very happy so far.
That is excellent mileage! Im getting 37 MPG on on my 2024 Honda CRV Hybrid Sport.
Easy. Toyota dealerships are all playing games and marking up prices still with "dealer installed add-ons" while Honda is not.
@@user-gj9lo6hu3s That's why I ordered mine, they "usually" don't add crap on customer orders. I paid $38K for my '22 Hyb Ltd with cooled seats, MSRP was $42K. I couldn't special order at Honda dealers in Florida and here Hondas are all charging $5K market adjustments + $1K dealer prep fee in addition of the delivery fee that includes the PDI... #ProfitIsNotADirtyWord
This might not apply to you but the #1 reason the Honda is less efficient is because it has a real 4wd unlike the Toyota.
If you don’t live where it snow then it won’t matter.
Is your rav4 loud when driving? I read it’s very common for the rav4 hybrid to be very loud and have rattling noises.
That is why we chose the Honda CRV Sport L, it drove better than the rav 4. And seems to have more favorable reviews.
Excellent review! I recently purchased the CRV Sport Touring, and I must say it's been an incredible choice. When comparing it to other options from Toyota, Hyundai, and Kia, I found Honda's i-MMD hybrid architecture to be the standout feature. Having owned Planetary Gear eCVT-based cars for the past decade, I can confidently say that Honda's approach to acceleration and ride quality is superior. It provides a smoother and more enjoyable driving experience.
Moreover, Honda has truly excelled in crafting the interior space, style, and comfort of the CRV Sport Touring. The attention to detail is evident, and it elevates the overall driving experience. The interior offers ample space, ensuring everyone can ride in comfort. The stylish design elements give the vehicle a modern and sophisticated look, making it a pleasure to be inside.
Great stuff as usual David. I do think a better comparison will be between the CRV and the next version of the RAV4.
How about hybrid,? i’m not convinced about it, can it be lasting? Can you enlightens.
In this segment Mazda is true winner
@@bazmsc good point, especially with the batteries getting used full-time by this Honda. That will shorten their lifespan for sure.
@@sethtenrecEvery hybrid system uses the batteries full time. And we still have 10yo Priuses with original batteries. Same story for EVs
Comment toward the MPG: Purchased a Sport Touring (gray interior) in early May, as of this writing, getting right under 39 MPG. Overall comment: Just love the CRV Sport Touring. Honestly, it doesn't feel or look like a "Honda" ... At just looking at the interior , it could easily have a Acura name plate. But it drives like no other Hybrid and I have driven/owned a lot of different ones.
Video comment: Good video. David forgot to mention one of my favorite things about the new CRV. The rear seats recline.
great review, compared to other review you provide measured details and mention attributes that matter
very informative
thank you
Thank you for posting this helpful video!
Thanks David, you answered the question I was looking for the answer!
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Great review. Thanks you for your time.
Really enjoyed this video and the information you shared. Thank you.
Thank you for your non biased opinion and honest review sir!
Had this baby out for a drive today and absolutely loved it. The vehicle feels like a solid high quality vehicle with an excellent feel and very smooth without being bouncy, it really absorbs bumps well. It also feels very roomy for this small crv segment. It is pricey and a toyota hybrid is not an option for me due to wait time to receive one. Heck they don’t even have one to test drive lol.
Nice technical review
I love that you can test paint thickness!! Thanks!
Thank you! I'm glad I came across your video, now I can comfortably buy one.
Well put together review - good job. I am curious if you have checked out the Kia Sportage Hybrid - and how you think that stacks up.
Great review. thanks!!
Thinking about buying one, thanks for the great info.
Just bought the touring hybrid 2024 yesterday. Amazing.
I bought mine in January and I absolutely love it. Already have 11k miles on it!
Great review. Thank you.
Comprehensive, succinct and clear. Great review. Thanks.
Awesome review-thank you! I just purchased a 2024 Honda CR-V EX, and so many things you mentioned about the exacting fit, finish, and functionality in the Honda Hybrid apply as well to my new vehicle. I upgraded from a 2018 Honda CR-V, and it seemed like Honda has continued to upgrade safety features in its CR-V models...
Thanks for the great video. Have you already analyzed CRV 2024? Is there much difference between them?
Nice video sir, can you also check the kia sportage hybrid. Thank you
Fantastic review. Informative and straight to the point. Knowing now that you own two RAV4’s and the new CRV, and still pick the CRV, is all I have to hear.
To my understanding Toyots eCVT since first gen Prius has worked as you descrive Hondas system to work. What am I missing?
Always love your videos. Great content. My only negative on the CRV is that when the rear seats are folded down they are higher than the rear floor making for an uneven load “floor”.
Thanks for your contributions to my research. I own a 2010 Venza still running strong. The dated look of the RAV4 i kept waiting waiting for redesign that hasn't come. I'm not waiting anymore. Getting my first Honda in near future a sport touring CRV. Looks modern and polished and roomy.
Edit alert! Bought it Friday it wouldn't drive Monday. Electrical issues with computer. I'm afraid of what I've bought...😔
Did you still have issues afterward? Hopefully you didn’t buy a lemon.
fantastic review
I just bought one and am very excited to drive it. Thank you for the great review!
GREAT VIDEO!
David, thanks for sharing your experience and a comprehensive one. Meticulous indeed,🙏 Spot-on, looks like this CRV hybrid is a winner👍for now
I am so happy, as I bought same color Hybrid crv touring yesterday
Great review, thanks
Just found your channel and subscribed. Interested to know what you think about the non-hybrid CR-V with 1.5 liter engine with turbo? Have you reviewed one of these? Could not find it if you did.
Don't buy it if you are in a cold climate The 1.5 is terrible in winter condtions in short stop and go driving. Engine will not stay at operating temp. If you put heater on maximum the engine temp drops and you will freeze. Buy a good scraper for your windshield
I have one of each, a 2019 CR-V 1.5L Turbo, and a 2023 CR-V Hybrid. In a mix of town and highway driving, I get 30-31 MPG with the 2019, an 40-42 MPG with the hybrid. The trip mileage in town is typically 48 MPG. The Hybrid is about 7.5 seconds to 60 MPH compared to 8.0 seconds for the turbo, and a lot quieter in the process. Electric traction provides almost constant torque, hence acceleration, without noticeable lag or shifting, when entering a tollway. The engine is a Hadley design, which is close to that of a Carnot heat cycle engine.
@@MidwestYoungArtists I enjoyed reading your post. I assume Hadley design is Atkinson cycle . I have not heard of the term Hadley.
Is the color on this canyon river blue metallic or meteorite gray metallic? It’s hard to tell. Thanks for the informative video.
looks blue to me if that helps
Nice review. We own a 2023 CR-V hybrid, touring trim level and are very happy with the vehicle. While we don't have young children anymore, we did try installing a child car seat and it fits perfectly with the connections provided in the backseat. Gas mileage has declined in the winter months (cold) but had been running just shy of 40 mpg during the warmer months. Thanks for all of your insights.
i wish the ridgeline had the same dash with clicky climate control big knobs.dont like looking for small flat buttons.also missing stick shifter much better then push button transmission.great video.
I'll add my 2 cents. Just traded in my Toyota Venza and got my 2024 hybrid CRV touring model Friday. This morning loaded it to take my mother in law home and drive to work.... All the lights lit up and warning messages started appearing saying all my safety features were not working contact dealer, driver assist failure contact dealer. Traction control failure see dealer. Electronic parking break wouldn't disable. Error msg on that too. Couldn't open the rear hatch not by foot or key fob or hand. Had to climb over the back seat repeatedly to get mother in law's stuff out.
All Honda offered was tow to dealer. 5 hours later they said they had no rentals available until Thursday and there were so many error codes that came on that they have to go through them one by one and don't know how to fix it or when it will be done. I'm beginning to fear leaving Toyota and want to look into what my options are, if any, to get rid of it get my money back. The 2 days I drove it I loved it and the features. But lasting less than 72 hours before locking up and leaving me in my driveway unable to go anywhere? I'm sooooo sad.....
David do you have any advice for me? Thoughts?
toyota for reliability.., no matter interior, legroom ..
( something’s got to give )
Great review. I tend to hold onto my cars for the long term (I currently own a 2001 Subaru, which I drive regularly!). I am apprehensive about the cost of drivetrain repairs to hybrid vehicles. Am I being paranoid? Which carmaker, Toyota or Honda, is predicted to have the lowest repair costs?
Either one will last 20+ years with good care. I'd say it's hard to guess which one since they're too new (the gen), but for what I've heard they're about the same.
I've had my new 2023 CRV Touring Hybrid for about a month now. I traded my 2020 CRV Touring Hybrid for this. I must say I have been extremely pleased. It is a much better car than the 2020 which I also liked a lot. This one has a better appointed interior, is faster, handles better and gets better mileage. The new black wheels are sharp and have received a number of compliments. The interior controls are smart looking and functional. Also I have found the A/C cools more quickly. The drive modes have clear differences and work well. Ironically, before purchase I tried to test drive a Toyota RAV 4 and a Kia Sportster Hybrids, no dealer within 50 miles (S. Florida) had anything to even test drive but they all lied about it to get me to visit. Then I got offered a great deal with trade for this new one and I have no regrets.
Where south fl did you get it? On the market for now
Braman Honda on Lake Worth road. Hang tough if negotiating with them. They deal differently depending on how many they have and when they want to move them out. Got huge difference in price from one visit to another one a few weeks later.
Thankks a lot! @@robertmarcovitz7151
Do you get good mpg on the touring?
Well, let's say I'm not the slowest driver. I can get 32mph if I only switch to sport mode a few times per tank. Once I drove really carefully to see my best mileage and I got 35 per tank. On long highway trip if you do 55 or less I can get there too. But at 80ish it goes back to 32.
What is the name that blue color? Looks like some gorgeous pearl gunmetalish blue
I am surprised you didnt talk about any of the mechanical aspects of the engine and overall system. No alternator, no belts, no starter - all of those functions are done through the electric motors. Maintenance on this car is going to be extremely minimal. Breaks will last 100k miles + as well
I have a 2020 CRV Hybrid with 35k miles. It doesn't have any belts for radiator, alternator, timing, etc. Love it.
Great point!
I agree this doesn’t sound like an “engineere” review at all. He sounds like he is paid by honda
Nice job. I'm an engineer (electronic, regulatory) and I never thought to equate panel gaps to overall quality. I'm not sure if it's correct, but it does show attention to detail.
The paint thickness is something that MATTERS, if a person drives on salty roads; I'm glad to hear this, having just bought a 2024 CR-V Sport Touring yesterday. (traded my 2022 Subaru WRX)
I was not sure how the hybrid powertrain worked on this. Oftentimes, the engine is not running, but it doesn't take a lot of acceleration to turn it on again. I have read comments from other reddit users who claim to get 50 mpg on theirs with gentle driving. We will see what I get.
Out of curiosity, Why didn't you take the job at Honda? That seems like a great opportunity for a car fan.
How many cars does this guy own??? I can’t even get my wife to let me trade in one car for another!
Since he makes a living reviewing cars, his wife probably gives him more leeway 😊
trade in your wife then?
😂😂
This guy has many cars and trades them after 1 year or less. He makes videos that pay him enough to change them that often.
I believe the answer to your question is in your comment the fact that your wife has to let you.
My 2003 Civic gave me 396,000 miles. I'm seriously considering The CRV Hybrid. Great review Brother 👍 Man
Excellent video, I'm in the market for a hybrid suv and I'm definitely going to check out the Honda now. Thanks 🙂
Would be nice to know battery chemistry of both?
Thanks for the sharing. Could you test and comment on Kia Sportage hev and Hyundai Tucson hev too? I am very interesting in the turbo engine + electronic + 6 at combination. THANKS IN ADVANCE 😊
I debated between a 2024 Toyota RAV 4 Hybrid and the 2024 Honda CRV Hybrid. Your review was the final straw for me. I bought the CRV 4 months ago and have no regrets. Love it!
Amazing argumenty 🔥🔥🔥
Is this a series hybrid system or series-parallel hybrid system
Great review! I love your channel! I just bought this exact car -- a '24 CR-V Touring in Canyon River Blue. It's a great car. My son has a '23 XSE RAV4, which is also great, but the CR-V is a lot more comfortable and spacious.
Good info. What's your MPG with the CR-V?
@@namvet1968 The MPG on the RAV is much better -- my son gets about 42 MPG consistently. The CR-V is a little disappointing -- I seem to be getting about 29 - 32 MPG.
I'm looking to buy one asap!
I agree ! It’s a great vehicle 👍
Wow! I can’t believe you say this better than Toyota RAV4. I thought you’re Toyota all the way. I’m going to reconsider what my next car would be.
Still get a RAV4 Hybrid!!!
Looking at trading my Model 3 for one of these now that we can get the hybrid on the lower EX-L trim. Need something my dad can get into easier as he had an accident recently and it was already a challenge for him to get into my Model 3 before.
I like my '12 CRV and may look at a hybrid CRV in a couple years as a replacement, but I am taken back by a lack of a spare tire. A flat repair kit would be useless for a blowout, or any sidewall damage. I just don't understand the lack of a donut spare tire.
Bought one and absolutely love it!!!!!!
Excellent review! I like the exterior of CRV 2023 more than CRV. There are just so many RAV4s on the road now. I also like the internal design of CRV, simple but solid. The only feature it missed is ventilate seats. I can care less about the panoramic roof, spared tire and 360 cam.
Ah, I want a spare tire
for me its the 360 cam that i cared the most and the other stuff are just optional....i guess for the top trim it is bit disappointing to not have all the things you mentioned. (minus the spare tire since it is a hybrid and they need space to place the battery)
@@miragexl007 I have been lucky that I have never had flat tires.
@@qiaofeng38 I have 360 cam on my car now and I really had to use it once or twice since I had this car 6-7 years ago. When do you use it?
There are a lot of RAV 4’s on the road for sure. I was torn between CRV and Rav 4. I chose the CRV and I must say I have been seeing a lot of the 2023/2024 on the road. I like both, but I am very happy with my Honda.
Honda skipped out on certain features however. You cannot get ventilated seats or 360 camera on this compared to tucson/rav4 hybrid when you choose the top trims
I wonder if these fit a 32oz Hydroflask in the drivers side door?
I am in the market for this, however dealers near me are quoting 3k over MSRP. Is the market still so bad ?
When I was planning to buy a new hybrid car, I can't decide to buy Rav4 or CRV. But when I saw this video, it helped me choose CRV 2024 Hybrid. Thanks you very much!
does the e-cvt have the rubber band feel? or traditional shifts?
Unfortunately, E-CVT is and will always be a 'rubber band feel' no matter the vehicle or model year...period!
Just watched the Motormouth review and noticed the license plate number is the exact same car! 😂. Great review.
These press cars sure do get around. It's a new form of advertising.
I ordered one of these two days ago. If only Honda would have found a way to put a spare tire in somewhere, it would have been perfect.
I went to pick and pull and got a Nissan Altima doughnut for $16 and it has never even been used. It’s the same bolt pattern. I will wrap it in a blanket and put it behind the driver seat for road trips. Otherwise I have a roadside assistance if I need it local.
As a RAV4 Hybrid and RAV4 Prime owner, I have to say that the CRV Hybrid has by far the best handling and looks. I just wish it is several grand cheaper and has a spare tire.
Love it 👍🏼
thank you David.
I purchased the RAV4 Prime Hybrid AWD and have been extremely pleased. Mileage is 40MPG+ and Toyota is the leader in Hybrids. Mine was made in Japan. Everything is designed to be very durable and for lasting a long time without failing. These vehicles can go 250K miles providing the battery under the rear seat vent is kept clean. Toyota for me!
I traded my RAV4 for a Honda CRV Touring Hybrid just 4 mos. after I bought it. Funny story…Honda agreed to put a clear protective coat on my new RAV4 due to an agreement with the Toyota Dealer as they are located fairly far from my home. The Toyota Dealer is a sister co. to our Honda Dealer so they work together quite a bit. Honda loaned me a CRV Touring Hybrid. I instantly felt the difference in the smoothness of the ride. The Honda CRV was quieter and more comfortable hands down. I could see my surroundings so much better and felt safer changing lanes. The interior and dash set-up is very well planned out and comfy. When I returned the Honda I expressed that I had made a big mistake buying the RAV4 and I never was completely happy with my purchase. We ended up trading it in on the Honda CRV hybrid and we have loved it ever since. The gas mileage is unbeatable. We travel a lot and are very happy. No regrets at all.
Thank you for the video! I just bought my 2024 Honda CRV Hybrid Sport- L and I'm loving it! I like and looked hard at the RAV-4 which is an excellent vehicle but I'm glad I went with the Honda. Appreciate your qualified opinion!
I am buying either a CRV hybrid or RAV4 hybrid very soon (leather seats is a must for me)
Are you still satisfied with your choice?
Excellent Review > However, I would like to see your comparison opinion between a Non hybrid CR-V and a Subaru Outback.
I regret going for the EX instead of the Sport Hybrid. Black wheels, 204 HP, more MPG, all black inside, sport mode, leather wrapped steering wheel, and dual exhaust. The Dollar difference was just 1,300. I guess this what happens when go from wanting an LX then switching to EX, you end up wanting more. Aside from that, the EX is still a great upgrade for me as a 2003 Honda Accord driver 😆
I own and drive 3 vehicles.....2019 Lexus GX 460 (assembled in Japan), 2021 BMW X3 2.0L Turbo (assembled in USA) and 2022 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid (assembled in Japan).....Given the chance to choose I would only buy a Toyota assembled in Japan if I was looking to buy a Japanese brand vehicle. FYI I put premium fuel 91 octane or higher in all my vehicles including the Toyota RAV4 Hybrid. This allows me to run the Toyota RAV4 Hybrid on eco mode keeping RPMs lower and the vehicles runs smooth and quiet and less engine strain. The Honda CR-V Hybrid looks and handles better than the RAV4 Hybrid but I wouldn't buy it over the Toyota if you are looking for long term reliability.
Toyota makes great cars. Their engineering disciplines are second to none in the industry. That said I would argue Honda actually makes engineering choices based on achieving longevity. This pans out statistically. Your claim regarding reliability won't resonate with anyone who has ever owned a Honda.
what are your thoughts on your BMW? Is the reliability as bad as its image?
lucky you ( difficult to get hands on Japanese made RAV4 hybrid )
I would consider springing for one of these but I don't want to part with the '06 CR-V I bought new that's still a delight to drive.
Thanks for your engineer's view of the CR-V. Only disappointed to hear they don't include a spare tire anymore.
I cant wait to see the new Rav4 design! 😍
Great review! Can I get a Canadian made CRV in the USA? I have a US made 2019 Honda Insight and it has horrible uneven panel gaps all over.
Always been reliable? What about the oil dilution problem?
Is the interior or handling better than a 2023 CX-5 turbo?
Does the wireless charging pad charge without having to remove the phone case?
Yes
Great review and very well explained. We test drove the new RAV4 hybrid and then the new CRv hybrid.
It was so OBVIOUS the CRV was a much better SUV.
Extremely better drive comfort, performance and comfort, impressive quality, simple and a ‘well fit’ feeling.
The Crv Cost more than the competition, and well worth it.
I get 43-44 mpg with my 2023 Crv hybrid. This vehicle was very well thought out and engineered, all with Hondas amazing quality.
FWD?
@@PostprandialTorpor
AWD
I have achieved 44mpg all several tanks
I have achieved 44 mpg on several tanks fulls
Over 500 miles tankful
Best new car I’ve bought
@@user-jm6iu8jr4f what percentage of your trips per tank is hwy and city ?
I drive primarily all over the city of Seattle area.
About 20% freeway
Almost had a 45 mpg tank full 44.9
I’m driving trying to get the best mileage, if driven hard I’m sure mileage will go down to around 38-41 mpg.
How about maintenance costs? Does the CR-V hybrid Cost less to maintain rather than a Rav 4 or any other similar hybrid?
It doesn't come with a button on the rear view to program your garage doors. You have to purchase it as an accessory
My critera: timing chain (not belt), no direct injection, no oil dilution.
Rav4 is better in the Hybrid AWD system, it has motors on rear wheels while CR-V is using conventional AWD (like in ICE car), Rav4 battery pack will get charged from front and rear motors on braking. Toyota is also more mature in the hybrid system in general, how battery is packed on the Rav4 is way above the CR-V hybrid, Honda relatively new player in the hybrid system since they abandoned the first generation Insight, so they have not design the battery pack that well yet, on the CR-V hyrbid the battery took out completely the spare tire space in the back. Compared to Rav4 which still has a spare tire. So if you want better AWD hybrid system, Rav4 is the choice. Other than that like in this review CR-V seems better fit for city use, drive smoother, build quality from the factory is top notch, feedback on the steering wheel, newer interior. CR-V also has better MPG on front wheel drive system (43 mpg). One more thing to mention is the engine, Toyota is using Direct and Port fuel injection while Honda is using only Direct injection, so in long term, the carbon build up from Direct Injection on Honda will be worse.
You may be the most analytical car reviewer on you tube, to your credit. This may be our next vehicle. Thank you.
Had a sport touring for about 4 months while waiting for my ‘23 XSE. A very refined hybrid compared to Rav4-the switch between gas and electric is much better it feels nonexistent. Roomier front and second row vs the RAV4 but the usable trunk space is vertical. However, bang for the buck goes to RAV4-so many things missing for a top trim.
We are buying a Honda CRV over a Toyota because the Honda feels more refined.
And it seems the rav4 is a very loud vehicle to drive. I would get annoyed by the rattling noises that is common in rav 4.
Thanks!
IMO, the overall perceived quality and spacious feeling of the interior plus the more polished driving experience of the CRV more than compensate for the slightly less mpg returns….hybrid vs hybrid is not just about which has better mpg…
Love more mpg...but your right. But u have to give a lot of credit for the comfort
Just picked up my red 2024 Honda Hybrid Touring this weekend, and OMG, amazing car! Just love it. It took a little bit to get familiar with the controls and displays as my previous car was a 2020 Touring and it is different. I miss the fog lights, tho, as I do a lot of night and early morning driving. Gas mileage is good so far, around 37, but I only just picked up the car. Audio is so good. I am extremely happy with this car. It’s comfortable and a joy to drive. No regrets.
No fog lights? This is why I’m disappointed with Honda. It’s almost as if they don’t think if the CRV as a greater utility vehicle than they’ve made up to be. To me, the CRV is for city yuppies who only drive an SUV in the city. Another thing they don’t have is a spare tire. Wow. That’s a deal breaker.
The RAV4s are good in both city and more country settings. They’re more thoughtfully built as are Subarus and Mazdas. Not built only for city yuppies.
Drove one yesterday. Excellent drive! But no spare tire? No ventilated seats in Texas, not so good!
Only confusion is no spare tire and no fog lights for the hybrid version😢
No spare tire equals no sale for me.
@@jonathana2079Would runflats be a viable alternative?
What is the color, please?
i think you need to compare that CRVC with the new 2025 Rav4 as this one is a new gen.
How do you deal with the CR-V's lack of a spare tire?
By using the fix a flat kit. I see a lot of people worried about this and I’m genuinely curious why it’s such a big deal. In the last 20 years I’ve only had one flat tire when I even needed the spare. Are people getting flat tires all the time that this is a huge concern?