19:40 > Be me > Literally me > Yes, that's me > Watches RWBY, loved it even though it was a cringefest > Volume 4 airs > Whatthefuck.jpg are these fight scenes > Learns there's a convention for RT > Looks into panels to see if they'll talk about their animation process > Applies for work for several months while also taking classes > saves just about every earning I get so I can plan a trip to Austin from Seattle > Costs about 2k for the entire thing > flies down to Austin > gets into hotel room > has convention panels planned out for each day > plan out question for RWBY panel > Specifically gets in line and sits right beside the microphone to guarantee I get that 2000$ question in > 4th or 3rd in line > Air conditioning doesn't help because Austin is a billion degrees compared to Seattle > Look like a mess > Everyone except one other person jerks off Miles and Kerry with pointless not-questions > Finally its my turn > Damn I'm in front of thousands of people > breathes > "How did Jaune obtain Pyrrha's weapons after the fall of Beacon?" > Barb: "ITS A CARTOOOOOON" > was so stunned I couldn't speak > Miles and Kerry give two completely different answers to my question > Kerry gives the most logical one, that Qrow got the stuff from the CCT tower > Miles claims Pyrrha has multiple sets of her clothes but this means Jaune sneaked into Grimm infested territory to steal his dead girlfriend's clothes, which just raises way more questions > They laugh off my question but end up giving me a RWBY poster > SweetISavedLike15$.png > Later gets blocked by Arryn and Gray > Any questions I ask Miles and Kerry on Twitter are ignored, like asking for a Dust chart so people know what each type can or can't do or clarifying what Aura does > They don't care about their own work > This shit inspires me to make a better work than RWBY > Will try to finish writing the script this summer and then begin drawing the stuff next year or maybe learn to model stuff and animate in 3D > Literally going to animation school to make better shit than RT > now where's my paycheck for doing those animation reviews on Volumes 4 and 5? > sad reacts only > send floofs to my Twitter please
No lie Floof, I'd be angry too especially the part where they just laugh at you in your face in front everybody in the panel. Hell, I was mad in Volume 4 when they stole a concept for one of my characters I drew. But don't worry, I got your back and I'm sure you and all of your followers and fans o too. ^_^
www.deviantart.com/dcb2art/art/SOAR-Vein-Prowler-Revamped-740848471 I made and posted this character on my Deviantart before volume 4 and when Volume 4 came out and they revealed Tyrian his character, personality, were the same as my character but worse and they stole my scorpian themed idea by making Tyrian a Scorpian Fanus.
I agree on everything except the Yang punching Blake thing. Yang would never raise a hand in anger against a friend. ...Then again, I used to think the same about Blake. *flashbacks to the Sun slapping scene*
Solora Goldsun It doesn't have to be an anger fight. If I was writing V6 I would show Yang having Trust issues with Blake when it comes to doing their combo moves and either Qrow or Opzin have them do a sparring match to get everything out in the open. They have a spar, Yang and Blake pour all their grief out during the fight, and they come out as better friends because of it.
Yang seem more angry about Ozpin turning Qrow and Raven into birds than how he kinda guilted/forced Pyrrha into being the fall maiden and lead her to her death.
See, that's why Raven is my favorite character. She seems to be the only one who can think for herself, she may be morally questionable, but it works well in contrast to our "heroes". Raven knows first hand that Ozpin is a shady dude, she may have been bullshitting Yang but from an audience perspective, Raven has been right the entire time (but this also makes her characterization very weak). Also Ozpin: Haha, I let one of my ex-lieutenants go free and use the gift of magic I gave her to raize villages, haha no big deal. :^)
this and possessing Oscar are the primary reasons to be skeptical of Oz. They already showed Jaune being mad about Pyrrha, and it would've worked better if raven explained more about Oz being able to possess boys, or even having seen it before. He'll, if they really wanted to buckle down on the bird thing then have it have been against their will; maybe Qrow was OK with it (likes being useful in spite of his semblance) but Raven as more independent could've refused (not wanting to be a tool). There; done. I do love this show but I'm slowly learning I do mostly for the potential of the characters rather than what actually happens. v5 had some easily fixable flaws. I'll continue watching since I genuinely appreciate the characters and story, but I really worry for the acrobatics needed to tie some things together
did you forget she told ozpin not to give her the rest of the details. he didn't guilt trip those were the facts. It's not his fault she acted like a little bitch shortly after because of her pointless crush.
The theory is that keeping it vague means that you won't have little details that contradict each other in ways you didn't plan. Empirically, you're more likely to not have enough structure to avoid having important details contradict each other in ways you didn't plan.
but miles straight up said if u make official dates plotholes can come up yeh miles as if your shitty writing is making the trainwreck even more of a pile of rubble on the sides of rails
Faunus: people with physical animal traits to certain extent. Perfectly reasonable People who can turn into birds: how could you do that? What is wrong with you!
"IT'S JUST A CARTOOOON!" "When it comes to plot holes we like to keep it vague, and just focus on the plot." I'm hurting. Like I am losing all interest in RWBY if this is how they treat their show. "It's a cartoon lets write whatever we want! Oh Monty's ideas? Retcon them! This is our show now!" Any writer with self-respect would know better.
Looking back at Volume 1, I can't believe Weiss is the character I would be the least annoyed by. She didn't even do anything amazing this volume, she just managed to be the least stupid.
The sad thing is they could have actually done something with Summer. You know how Yang and Weiss have that talk together where Weiss brings up her horrible family. Maybe they could have had that be a moment of realization for yang that she’s better off than most because she at least had a good mom even if they weren’t related. It’s not the best but it was groundwork that could have been better than what they had.
I honestly feel like shipping plays a major role in why the writers won't allow Yang to harbor too much resentment towards Blake. They don't want to risk pissing off the lowkey crazy Bumblebee shippers that they had a part in creating. I'm not against creators indulging or acknowledging ships. However, the extent that RT has done so has (imo) altered how legitimate the RWBY fanbase takes Bumblebee, which has affected how the characters are written. ANYWAY, great video as always.
I agree, however Miles and Kerry could have made this a gradual progression, where at first Yang holds the resentment when she see's Blake, then during the time of volume 6 (or even 7 if they do it well time wise) some event occurs and Blake redeems her trust with Yang, and this would set them back to being team RWBY again. As oppose to the two minutes we got from the end of vol 5.
Okay, I really like Blake and Yang as two very close friends (I dislike the ship tho), and I don't want them to hate each other, but having an arguement, yelling at each, bringing up serious themes and questions, and other stuff like that could have been a great way, to do character development to both of them, and eventually strenghten their friendship. I think even the non-crazy bumblebee fans would have been okay with that.
@@Kyrande_Foxfairy I never saw a reason to ship Blake and Yang, even after 8 volumes now. Honestly, any push for the ship seems more like pandering and they want to get as many minority groups lumped in as one as possible. That and they have to drop the BlackSun they had been building for 6 volumes and retcon both Blake and Yang, imo.
Honestly, Yang calling Raven her mom and not even acknowledging her “supermom” when talking to Raven is legitimately infuriating to me. Yang’s Character was just getting good when she lost her arm, and then Volume 5 came along with that bullshit about Yang and Raven arguing but she again, Doesnt think or talk about the true woman who cared and raised her
I’m with you. Every time they do this I feel like they are spitting in the face of adopted children and blended family. I’m adopted but I love my mother more than my birth mom. My birth mom is practically a stranger.
I feel like, if I was gonna script doctor Yang's character, I'd make her themes revolve around concepts of found family and personal responsibility. I think Yang's motivation to become a huntress should've been to catch up to Raven, right from the start. and this could've tied in with whatever happened to Summer Rose. maybe Raven knows something. maybe Raven did something. maybe it's all speculation though, and Yang honestly doesn't know the truth of it all. Qrow knows a little more than he'll say, but he's cryptic about it because he doesn't want to misrepresent information that is incomplete, even for him. we could've had an honest to god mystery on our hands, and Yang could've been in a complicated spot, caught between love and blood. she is Raven's bio daughter, but Summer raised her, and if Raven had anything to do with Summer's demise, Yang knows who she'd side with. but she can't figure out any of this until she's properly trained as a huntress. and even beyond that... following in the footsteps of someone like Summer is appealing to her. Yang wants to be protective of people who need help... she's felt helpless before, and she wants to make sure that others never feel that way. this would make Yang seem humble... willing to admit that until she is properly trained, she won't be fully prepared for what she ultimately wants to do. it gives Yang's character more focus. and all of this information could be drip fed to the viewer, so that even the truth about what Yang is really motivated by is a bit of a mystery. she's got her fun happy personality on the surface, but you'd get the sense that there's more to her than she lets on. and she wouldn't necessarily want to drag Ruby into any of this with her... she learned in her younger years that she's capable of endangering Ruby if she brings her along, and then gets in over her head. I honestly would've liked it if Ruby was actually a bit too young to attend Beacon at the start of the series, but followed Yang there anyway, in part because she was so committed to being near her sister and doing what Yang was doing. she'd get in by sheer force of talent, and then Yang would have reason to be protective of Ruby, because Ruby might be following her into more than she bargained for anyway. and I feel like, if Blake was tweaked just a little, she and Yang could have a much deeper connection. I'm imagining a version of Blake who escaped the White Fang, but maybe Adam specifically is still looking for her because he is enraged at both her personal and professional betrayal of him. maybe Blake went to Beacon and hid her faunus identity for protection... what better place to hide than in the midst of a bunch of trained, professional warriors? at this point, Blake wouldn't be a strong fighter, and she'd have major trust issues, beyond just being quiet or shy. Yang could be the relentlessly sociable friend that brings Blake out of her shell. which would be a much more complex thing in this case, because Blake is withdrawing from people for some pretty serious reasons at this point. Blake doesn't want to like or trust anyone... she wants to lay low and keep people at arms length. but Yang would reach out to her through sheer charisma, to the point where Blake actually kind of uses her as a social crutch, in order to get to know the other members of what would become team RWBY. by the time the fall of Beacon happens, Yang and Blake should've shared things with each other about themselves that nobody else has been entrusted with. Blake will know about Yang's mission to find out about the fate of her mom, and Yang willl have some idea of the darkness in Blake's backstory... though Blake may still find it difficult to talk about everything. Yang is definitely the first to know that Blake is a faunus. and at this point, both of them should solidly be able to admit, in private, to only themselves, that they each have a crush on the other. if bumblebee is happening, it should solidly happen. the ship has to feel intentional before it stands a chance of being good. over the course of the first three seasons, Blake should've built up some amount of confidence, both in her team, and her fighting abilities. when Adam finds her during the fall of Beacon, she should still be afraid of him, but maybe she has the courage to try and fight back when he threatens others, instead of just running away to save herself. at this point however, he is still stronger than her. and it's right when Blake is in a tight spot, and about to get seriously hurt, that Yang jumps in to defend her, and loses her arm. this creates a bigger impact for both characters, because in an instant, Blake goes from feeling confident enough to try and fight Adam, to completely crushed by the realization that she caused someone she cares about to get hurt. it all feels like a mistake... getting close to people, making them care about her, thinking she could be capable of holding her own... it sends her spiraling into negativity. and for Yang, there's the shock of losing her arm, paired with the knowledge of everything Blake has gone through, and all the progress she's made, and how it all might dissolve because of this event. after determining that Yang will receive medical attention, Blake leaves. she doesn't have a plan at this point, and ends up trying to camp out alone in the wilderness, fighting grim that nearly kill her on a regular basis, as a way to punish herself with isolation and physically unsafe conditions. meanwhile, Yang does have PTSD, but is trying to push herself past it too quickly, so she can go find Blake. she watched Blake go from this 100% withdrawn, meek seeming person, to someone who was just starting to develop some self worth... and Yang knows that it was because she had grown close to Blake, to the point where Blake had put her trust in Yang. Yang feels like she betrayed that trust by letting Blake get hurt, and she's worried that Blake will go back to being closed off, and never give her trust to another person again. this would allow Yang to remain active in the story due to a sense of urgency, and fit with her "mom friend" role that started when she was a kid. she was trying to fill in for her mother when Ruby was little, and now she can't shake the habit of trying to take everyone else's burdens onto her own shoulders. all while also visibly struggling with her trauma. she's not allowing herself to heal enough before she gets back out there... both Yang and Blake would be in self destructive states at this point in time, and in both cases, it's due to guilt over not being strong enough. it would also make it obvious that the two of them miss each other for good reasons, need each other's support, and want to see each other again, but are each harboring guilt over the way things turned out, and so they are apprehensive about their next meeting. their struggles at this point in the story would also function as a way for them to reasonably become stronger, so that whenever they face Adam again, it is feasible that they'd do better against him in a fight. at this point it would also be interesting to see Yang get pulled into something involving Raven, because it really would come at the worst possible time... when Yang is already sidetracked with wanting to find Blake, and trying to process her very new trauma. finding a lead on Raven at that point, when Yang feels just about the least prepared that she's ever felt, would really be more of a curse than a blessing. but yeah... having a strong base for Yang's character like this would allow her to function more easily as the heart of the team... and it'd make the narratives of the members of RWBY feel more connected, even when the team spends a season apart.
The "it's just a cartoon" is actually a hell of a lot worse than people think. Remember, RWBY is Monty's baby. It's a show he put a shit ton of passion, love, and dedication to see realized. For Barbara to simply refer to a show with this much passion behind it as just a cartoon is spitting on the memory of Monty. You are saying a show your dead friend loves to his core doesn't matter and isn't worth any thought behind it? That it's just some shallow piece of media designed to do nothing but be silly and fun?
@@garretstevens742ah hell that's make even more worse. If I have a series I don't want to have friends like them. They are the worst people. Very disrespectful mfs.
I was there when Barb said it's just a cartooooon. They had an opening for that question (where did jaune get the metal for his upgrade when Pyrrha got Thanosed) they could've said he salvaged her shield that Cinder threw away earlier in the fight (but I'm sure they forgot about that detail.) Or they could've fessed up and said we wanted a dramatic looking death and an sentimental upgrade for Jaune and hoped no one would ask lol
My response to them would have been "you did nothing more than copy Krillin's death to Freeza in Dragonball Z, and even then, you failed to provide the narrative support that would have made such a moment actually BE solid. And then you have her friends melt down what is literally what is left of her to upgrade Jaune's gear? You have no respect for the characters you create, or in your case, inherited. You basically treated a character that YOU billed as "Main" as nothing more than spare parts for the others. Quite frankly, if you, the writers, show that you do not care whatsoever about the characters you create, then I don't care about the story you want to tell with them. Good day to you."
2097Pyros I can't think of anything on the top of my head and don't necessarily disagree with you but it isn't very reminiscent of Krillin's death. It wasn't something with a lasting scar for the main cast just a catalyst for Goku's transformation. In fact, Krillin's FIRST death has more beats in common with the beats in RWBY
At this point I just hope that Weiss isn't botched. She's the only good character left out of the main four and therefore she's become one of my favorites. Which is ironic of me, considering I used to hate her. BUT! You know they will... Eventually...
They butchered her enough this Volume tho. They made her look like an imbecile who knew just to Summon things. She literally forgot all the other things she can do with her Glyphs
I was HIGHLY upset when Yang and Blake saw each other. Like Yang, you lost an ARM trying to help her and she left you. Regardless of what Weiss had to say, you must still have some anger towards her. So instead of just staring blankly at her, you could glare at her, yell at her, I would've even been happy with you just blatantly ignoring her all together, like come on.
Sorry, I know this is a year late, but... when Blake pops up and Yang stares at her before running into the vault... what if Yang saw Adam instead? I know that, technically, Yang seeing Adam and running away would fly in the face of her 'I won't run' speech she gives later to Raven, but it would play into the PTSD arc they had for her. She could see the guy who lost her arm, and just decide to 'nope' the heck out of there. Could even have Ruby call out for her, telling her not to go without them, but Yang doesn't care. The guy that one-shot her is right out there, and she can't deal with him at that point. It would say a lot when she'd much rather face two maidens and her deadbeat mom alone than try to take on the guy that mutilated her. What do you guys think? Could this have worked?
I swear, the only reason I’m sticking with RWBY is because I can’t leave a story without knowing how it ends. I may not be as enthusiastic about watching it anymore, but at least I know where things are being developed poorly as far as characters and story goes
Saaaaame. Rwby was something special to me in the first volumes. Not perfect, but special as it had a lot of amazing potential so I feel like I'm abandoning it if I stop. I just prey and prey and prey that they improve their writing and do better as time progresses. Like they got great VA's jumping on board and it's a very pretty show now, but fuck man they need to retrace their steps, fix the narrative, and actually remember details that they put effort into making
rsheed123 Yeah, pretty much. I read doujins that had better plot than Avatar and Alvarez Empire combined, and this is coming from someone who,despite everything that happened, still loves FT. The first arcs were amazing, but after Tartaros (which I consider the last acceptable FT arc, except some cringey moments),everything went downhill
Could you imagine if the creator's of Avatar the last airbender or Oda from One Piece gave the same disgusting excuse. Honestly the fans put in a hell of a lot more thought and care into the characters than the writers such wasted potential it's sad.
Arno Wisp- At this point, the statement "Fanfics of this show are better than the show", is less of an opinion and more of an undeniable fact. There are Fanfic writers who have dedicated a lot of time and effort to make a decent story while the actual creators can't even remember which character did what anymore.
Finbar Brolly In fact I know a good fanfic story. Its a rather unique take on one of several RWBY fanfic subgenres. Check it out and do give the author a heads up. m.fanfiction.net/s/12783735/1/RWBY-A-Grimm-fate
My fave scene of Volume 5 was Yang calling Raven out on her bullshit, but I was frusturated that Yang just accepted Blake back. At the end of Volume 3, we saw that Blake leaving Yang when she needed her most was pretty much the breaking point for Yang to spiral into depression. Idk, maybe Yang was just caught up in the moment and we'll see them trying to mend their relationship in Volume 6?
Not a Bizarre JoJo I feel like they will only now go back and make Yang vs Blake a thing in season 6...purely because us viewers called them out on that BS.
I really, really, REALLY hope that Yang accepting Blake was only due to the fact that the end of the fight was a bad time to be pissed at her. If Miles and Kerry really are stepping it up next season, then I hope Yang and Blake are more distant to each other to show that Yang is still hurt from what Blake did.
You ever seen Gurren Laggan.? I wanted Yang to mirror a scene Kamina did. To break the life or death funk his blood brother was crumbling. He punched him in the face with brotherly love.
Me: omg another negative RWBY video? Why does everyone hate this show so much Also me: wow I agree 100% Now, I could’ve specified when I agreed but I have to keep it vague so plot holes can’t come up
Leah Necole dude that seriously pissed me off more than anything. So like they have all these mentions of the moon and it clearly means something significant Monty said it himself it has some meaning but he's gone now so maybe that idea is gone too. In the trailers they show the moon in different phases to display lapse of time. In the show we see the moon a lot. So here's me thinking I wonder if theres a direct timeline involved, maybe you can figure out how long it takes the moon to rotate and see when exactly villains did shit in the show and use that for predictions. No it's just fucking random. We just draw from a hat which phase the moon is going to be for this scene. We have this whole oh Cinder met with Adam at (surprise!) The moment before Blake's trailer but we don't want to get too specific. We will for this moment but we can't define EVERYTHING because it's too hard.
+Leah Necole Nobody hates this show (figuratively speaking). They make videos like this because they LIKED the show and are disappointed with the direction it's gone. If they hated it then they wouldn't devote time and energy to discussing it.
My impression is most haters wanted Adam to be the main villain for a much longer time and/or turn good or become an antihero. My impression is that is their chief motive for acting the show.
Remember all the hype around Yang finally meeting Raven? A core part of her characters history and motivation? It was all just so underwhelming and steamrolled over for plot reasons Oh, and we can’t have her hate Blake man - it’s a cartooon. We need more group shots
I think they'll be on the road to recovery, Yang still cares about Blake deep down but Blake messed up. According to the song (which is so weird to say), the conflict will likely be a part of some more volumes before they probably make up. It's just the ending of V5 just tried to push for a resolution that felt unwanted
Pepperidge Farm remembers. Hell, I still feel that moment in the end of Volume 2 where it seemed like Yang met Raven was better than some of what we got, as if Raven contacted Yang in her dreams and just that stare down by Yang, even with what Raven said to her. Now why couldn't _THAT_ have been continued? Seriously, it is such a cool concept to do that!
That convention scene literally just killed it. It just killed RWBY for me. I honestly couldn't get back into it, it had good stuff but the obvious downgrading of writing and their attitudes about it just pretty much ended whatever appreciation I have for RWBY. Like I know Barbara's sense of humor with her god awful puns and blunt jokes but seriously doing that to a fan asking a simple question in front of thousands and then just laugh at them? Obviously the pinned comment didn't appreciate that at all, I mean who would? I am just disgusted. At this point, I don't care for the show now. It pains me, I looked forward to it in excitement since I seen the first season trailers. I love the show despite the rough edges it had before getting to volume 4. I cried when Monty died and had respect for the team continuing his work. His last work on Earth that is slowly diminishing in quality because Miles and Kerry just doesn't seem to care. And what does so fucking hilarious all the time Barb says? "It's just a cartooooonnn" You're a better fan than I am, Vexed. I'll still look forward to more of your videos about it.
GreggRulezOk i agree with you about that conventiom scene, i was beyond shocked to hear "its just a cartOOOOOOn" like what? What happened to the passion project rwby used to be :/
Same there goes even more of my respect for RWBY, why should anyone care when they don't care,put much effort and have a rabid fandom that flip out at criticism+eats up anything.
Really it shouldn't have taken this long (volume 6) for them to start questioning Ozpin's motives when Raven should have been an immediate red flag. If not Raven, then Hazel.
@@michaelflores9220 ...Still seems like a massive dick move to relegate Phyrra's death to be of absolutely no plot consequence besides just being scrapped by Jaune for spare parts. Like we're probably never going back to Beacon andRuby's silver eyes are almost never relevant. Phyrra died for no other reason than to give Ruby and Jaune upgrades.
How? I would understand that f you said it about the first seasons because at least they had the cool action scenes to fall back on and the charming day to day lives, but I don't see how RWBY season 5, which is pretty much entirely plot oriented, gets better if you "turn your brain off". As far as I can tell it'd still be boring and the character arcs still wouldn't be satisfying.
I was extremely disappointed with Yang finally meeting Raven after ALL THOSE YEARS WITHOUT HER! Like really, if she truly had abandonment issues, Yang would have addressed Raven by first name. If my mom was gone for years of my life, I would call her by her first name or mother with some venom to that word. That's why I was so mad when Yang kept calling her mom, and then got angry when she didnt ask Raven why she left her. She was right there, Yang! Ask her! Another thing, Yang meeting her mom down in the vault area. Would have been an epic battle between the two (with Yang's metal arm) to fight out their emotions; especially Yang who would tell her this is her breaking away from Raven for good or say how Summer was her true mom and not Raven. All these opportunities and not one was hit!
Now for the Blake and Yang part. I wish their was more friendship chemistry between these two just like how there is some with Yang and Weiss. But no, we are getting this crap because shipping fans will eat this pair up. Uuuuuugh! They barely even got to friend level, and dont say they did. They just opened up to each other, but other than that, they are just teammates checking if the other is alright. No hangouts. No bonding past the fee fee trips. No nothing. Burely (not barely, burely) anything is there. I will be so pissed if Yang doesn't have a chance to slap or punch Blake's face with her metal arm in vol 6 for leaving her knowing damn well she has abandonment issues, or at least shout at her at some point. Give me something, Kerry and Miles!
So in Summary Ruby is a Dull protagonist who is now relegated to being nothing but the mascot for the show Blake is a shitty kitty. Yang is just Barbra Dunkleman going through an identity crisis. and Weiss is Best Girl. Hmmm, Somethings wrong here. XD
I can't believe he said that about timelines and continuity. I can't believe those words left his face. What the hell kind of writer thinks something like that?!
He thinks keeping dates vague prevents plot holes, when you'd think it'd be what CAUSES them. But they, it's a CARTOOOOON, so why should anyone care? They certainly don't.
I always kinda facepalm when people try to use the "its a cartoon argument" to justify the story not making sense. I don't know why but its like the writers of the show and people who work on it are admitting that they aren't able take criticism of the story or their admitting that they are just to incompetent to make a cohesive story.
It works in some cases depending on the context. Like if its complete comedy/parody kinda of thing sure. Since the 4th wall kinda break in those things pretty often. But when its a story to be taken seriously just in cartoon form its not ok. I mean there some stuff that's fine with its a cartoon like how people can move/fight they way they do or doesn't die after falling from a 10 floor building. But not ok with like major plot events.
Zehao- Agreed. In something like Ed, Edd n Eddy, where breaking the laws of physics and reality itself is part of the comedy, you don't need to really question things like, "How does Eddy survive a tree falling on top of him?" In a show where you are trying to show that actions have serious consequences and attention needs to be paid of continuity purposes, you actually have to explain why things happened or you just look like you're pulling things out of your ass.
I can agree to that if the cartoon in question is like very jokey and doesn't take it self to seriously then I can understand using that argument. But if your trying to tell a good story and your taking the story seriously then try to use that argument its just kinda sad. I mean a personally favorite cartoon of mine Avatar the Last Airbender was a great story with some hit or miss episodes sprinkled in. Overall the story was great and so were the characters you could tell they were trying to tell a good story.
Also if you take like say Teen Titans. There some super goofy 4th wall breaking stuff in there. But there are also extremely serious and somber moments too. Not like a show can't do both if its done properly. Like no one would write off a series moment in Teen Titans as its a cartoon because the serious moment get serious treatment.
Justin Depina I got three reasons why that excuse is beyond bullshit. Batman TAS, Justice league, Avatar. Three of the best CARTOONS ever made. They would not fuck up this hard. They werent just fun and entertaining but also compelling stories. They have no excuse, they know it and so they cover their asses because its the only way they escape from criticism. You cant ask for us to give a shit about a character with complex issues, make fanfics/memes about her, by your fucking merch and then praise you when you do nothing with them. Fuck you RT
The only reason people like Yang is cause they think she's gay for Blake. Even if she is (which I really don't want to get into that garbage) being gay does not make you an interesting character. I'm gay and I can say for a fact I'm boring as shit.
I used to like Yang until I thought about her as a character. Now I realise she's unfathomably fucking arrogant, with anger issues and constantly throwing tantrums. Better than Blake, but that's not exactly difficult when the Faunus girl's a perfect example of how to _not_ write a character.
@@Lord_Numpty I like yang but I FUCKING DESPISE BUMBLEBEE I’d rather see her with mercury than the scripted mess that is known as Blake and even though Yang is my favorite character Weiss has the best development which is why I think she’s best girl but honestly the team did Monty, the fans, and the characters real dirty after the end of volume three.
hey remember when Jaune told pyrrha that going to fight a maiden is just suicidal and dumb? but now yang is going down to fight TWO maidens (who are godlike mind you) and a professional bandit and nobody seems to care..... yang has become dumber and more suicidal than pyrrha... and her team, especially her sister don't give a rats ass such development... a great video friend, I wonder if you'll do a video on the characters on team JNPR, since you did it to team RWBY aside from Weiss.
Yeah it seems to be a trend with this shows.... characters getting dumb and DUMBER. I will stick with a masterpiece like Avatar: The Last Air bender and gladly skip this crap show. Vol 3-5 were thrash.
guess yang knew she was plot armor protected even than not sure if she was going to help raven what she thought she could do let alone if she fought raven
Khosef Tadros Yes it’s stupid Ruby and Nore expected her to stop two maidens and an experienced huntress when Pyrrha, the best fighter among them, died fighting ONE. Seriously what was their thought process there? Did they think Cinder the sadist wouldn’t kill a one armed girl?
Ryan Carson I know right I mean fuck OZPIN the headmaster couldn't hold off cinder for fucking 5 minutes pyrrha used to be the dumbest one but holy shit Yang just jumped all the way to the top...
Recurring theme in this volume: one character obsessing over another and then "not caring" come confrontation. You have Yang suddenly "not caring" about Raven beyond using her for fast transport. Then there's Blake who "doesn't care" about Adam, the dude she's been obsessing over for years. Even Weiss "doesn't care" about Winter because Weiss forgot all about her sister once she got to Mistral. Weiss didn't even know she'd run into the others; the whole point was to track Winter down. Apparently the writers forgot this, even though their relationship was a major part of the White trailer. Edit: and then there's Cinder suddenly not caring about Ruby.
NO MA'AM yeah it seems like despite having the same writers, and I could be wrong on this I do apologize, the consistency behind it is like they kept getting different writers for each volume after 2, and its honestly just sad considering that there are other writers out there that could at least keep RWBY more consistent than these guys right now.
Yeah, that's exactly what it's like. It reminds me of old style 26+ episode per year TV shows with a few core writers, script cleaners, and directors and a bunch of stringers to fill in the gaps. And those shows weren't serials so continuity errors weren't fatal. I believe "lore keepers" are common for modern serials. I'll bet something like Game of Thrones has more than one. RWBY desperately needs something like this, along with QA in general.
This isn´t really new. There´s also Yang suddenly not caring about being on the same team as Ruby, there´s Weiss suddenly not caring about Blake being a former White Fang member… although I wouldn´t say Weiss just forgot about her sister. She did get told by Vernal that Winter wasn´t in Mistral anymore and she gives a little frown when she sees Ruby and Yang hug (probably cause she felt left out and wanted her sister there with her)
NO MA'AM funny enough I was going to say that rooster teeth was basically making RWBY into a copy of game of thrones, mainly due to becoming more dialogue heavy than action, except RWBYs writing for dialogue was rather crappy and turning to that area is not a good idea as the focus and dare I say any passion that they still have for the show is meant more in the action and fighting, rather than the dialogue.
As a yang fan, fully agree. I would like to blame logic of the characters, but its literally the writing which makes the characters plot machines instead of characters.
I was very annoyed with this whole drama with her and Blake. It literally should have been her being pissed because a friend she lost an arm trying to save ran away. But no, this volume wanted to make it that Yang was mad because her girlfriend ran off. I won't deny they had a good bonding scene, but to now say that's enough for them to be an item is fucking ridiculous.
I wouldn’t mind the ship so much if it wasn’t so glaringly obvious that the writers are doing this just to pander to the rabid shippers of the fanbase. I wouldn’t have any problem with Blake and Yang being a couple if it was written well but it’s just not. We go from Yang calling Blake a “lost cause” upon their first meeting to them suddenly being besties in the Emerald Forest to then suddenly having Yang care for her so much that she’s willing to give an arm for her. All of this happens with the audience barely getting to see any of their relationship progression. Because of this it’s pretty hard for me to actually give a fuck about their relationship since it feels so hollow. Personally, I think having Yang and Weiss get together would make a lot more sense than Blake and Yang, but that’s just me.
Or! Hear me out on this...they don't actually need to have teammates dating 8D Only reason Ren and Nora work is because they actually have history together, so even if it's off screen, there's no denying the fact they've known each other since they were little kids
yang and blake are canonically not lesbians, they're literally both straight, especially blake who didn't even react to ilia's confession, what's going to happen is that when, not if, WHEN blake and yang get with guys, there will be a hall of anal devastation 3, just like when 1 and 2 happened (naruto getting with hinata instead of sakura and ichigo choosing orihime rather than getting with rukia)
thedarklordx I was hoping for Ichigo and Rukia haha, after rewatching the anime recently (my fiancée never saw it before, now she's a huge UlqiHime shipper haha) it seems like they had a lot more chemistry than I remembered. Especially the filler (I know what I said!) where Ichigo was losing his powers. But thankfully I didn't cry about it
The Exiled Draco expect the bumblebees shippers are acting like assholes in the fandom so no am not supporting this ship its better became for them be best friends then lovers
Summer didn’t left, she went on mission and passed away for doing so (correct me if I’m wrong.) That has to be the cruelest thing that yang has to say. Especially if she isn’t your real mother.
Well, she has always shown sociopath traits since the beginning, such as destroying the bar and slaughtering everyone when Junior genuinely didn't know, or in the Vytal Tourney, going to the extreme of SHOOTING Mercury instead of just calmly moving out of the way (since the fight was over at that point) like a normal human being, illusion or not. Oh, and you're correct. Summer did die, and Yang was being cruel, whether she (or the writers) were aware of it or not.
ShiningLeviathan's Sea of Bullshit to be fair for the bar scene, she did wreck the place but it was never implicated that she killed anyone, just look at Junior who got punched so hard in the face he flew out of a 2-story building yet is still fine and dandy so there’s no real reason to think that any of the grunts got killed
"It's a cartooooooon!" Wrong, Barbie. It's a product, a product that your co-workers produce and sell as blu-ray discs and merchandise. If the product is flawed, then its value diminishes. No one has any reason to buy a product with a worthless value. So, insulting the the people, who help finance your paycheck, was not the smartest idea; all things considered.
funkwolf1 Lol, "Barbie" XD But yeah, I hate when people say the classic cartoon excuse like really? Are you really going to insult the people that are putting money into your pockets? Are you financially suicidal or something?!
What irks me about Yang calling Raven mom is the part when she was talking to Weiss about Tai abandoning her when she was younger and to empathize how she felt about that by not calling Tai dad. The problem here is that it’s inconsistent with how she treats Raven. Tai at the very least from what I can tell came back and was father to Yang and Ruby but Raven left her and never came back and yet she still calls her mom when she should call her Raven like she called her father Tai. It just sends mixed messages about family when double standards like this are involved. Yang’s arc in Vol. 5 should’ve been about learning her mother was terrible and disown Raven as her mother while saying Summer was her real mom because she actually was a mother to her when she was younger. It would’ve been a satisfying conclusion to her talk down of Raven by simply not calling her mom to further twist the knife in.
I like how everyone are trying to make fanfictions that fix the plot holes or completely overhaul the story. Because RWBY is that bad, that fans are trying to fix the plot for the official writers, it's sad. I recommend that you watch fixing rwby on TH-cam, it shows how decent rwby's story could be if there was effort.
Khosef Tadros Hey buddy if the fanfictions are better than the show was the show ever really that good or was it decent action show with above average character designs.
Rafael Medina it's definitely not not a well written show at all however if you're talking about in general, it doesn't necessarily mean the show is bad, it means it could be better for instance if a show is good on its own but there's a fanfiction that is written better than the show that simply means the show can be better than it is now hope that answers your question friend :)
Kaiser Shounen To play devil's advocate fans have hindsight. Meaning when everything is done the fans have the ability to tell right from wrong because they can look back at a finished product and say what to keep,take out, and change.
Between Ruby failing as a main character, Blake being a terrible 'do as I say not as I do' whiner/coward, Yang being written so poorly inconsistent and Weiss having some good material but not enough focus, I can see why Team RWBY falls flat as the main cast. People can say what they want about Team JNPR, but I cared more about them in Volume 5 than RWBY. Becuase at least when they did something my brain would go 'makes sense' then '....wat?'.
How would you have written it? Adam turning into an antihero? Salem not being introduced until volume eight? Yang and Blake not getting into any fight in that warehouse and just getting along like nothing ever happened between them?
@@michaelflores9220 what he means that everything that was set up in volume 4 throw volume 6 was poorly executed, it really could have been better in a lot of ways, either you don´t understand that or don´t want to accept it.
@@michaelflores9220 you can like whatever you want that´s not the point , but don´t deny what it´s obvious, if you´re going to defend this volume try to say at least what for you could have been better, it´s obvious that you are on the defensive.
Her hand was still shaking when she met Adam again, that isn't exactly nowhere. what were you expecting? Her crying in front of a therapist? What were you hoping for, specifically?
The writers can't even convey what they're thinking. What is the evil intent with bird/curse thing? Obviously, it's a lie coaxed by Raven... but why does everyone react so negatively to it? They don't even specify what the characters are thinking at that moment. (Besides magic doesn't exist.)
Kushrada explained it pretty well. But the whole fiasco is two parter for me: 1) Raven's statement in ch. 6. "...I know that magic is real and I can prove it. You said *Tai* told you all about my Semblance. Well, I doubt *he* ever told you what Oz did to my brother and me." This statement is just throwing shade onto Tai, honestly. Raven makes it sound like it was Tai's responsibility to inform Yang of Ozpin's abilities (i mean, it wasn't for most of Yang's life but Tai also did let his daughters go off to the same combat school and allowed them to get suck into Ozpin's scheme, which Tai is very much aware of so he SHOULD get shade). I never got the impression it was a bad thing, just kind of sketch and just more proof Tai was with holding even more information about team STRQ and Oz. Raven was hoping to coax Yang a bit more but eh, it just didn't work. 2) The scene in Alone Together. It's...just a mess. Yang's question should not have been why, it should have been a how. Miles and Kerry threw in some unnecessary drama. And ya'know what? Qrow was pretty quick to dismiss the issue, that bothered me. He seemed pretty irritated. But no, everyone just accept it and moves on. There needed to be more questions beyond bird powers. god I hate vol5. It was an incoherent mess. Miles and Kerry don't know what they are implying when they write.
i love how someone finally says how its somehow not shady Ozpin is possessing as child and basically taking him into a war zone yet somehow Yang finds it suspicious that her mom and Uncle can turn into Bird's, Like cool ability's? what the hell is wrong with you Ozpin? Child soldiers? oh you know that's normal
well miles and kerry are idiots but thats all this show has for it interesting and cool designs that are wasted remember the white fang leader that adam killed yeh she was nicely designed but miles and kerry said fuck it lets axe her off
You might be the ONLY person I have seen to touch on the whole "turned them into birds" thing! The first time I saw that I was like "................HUH?! oh wait that is a BAD thing? turning into and back from a bird at will??? Okay I can't be the only that feels like that is a "so what?" moment right?" Looks at forums, boards, etc sees everyone and their mom agree that it is so "messed up" Leaving me with a WTF?....... look! And don't get me started on the Cinder and Raven fight! What the hell took Yang so long to get down there??? I would LOVE to believe she had a none shown moment when she got down their looks out the elevator and went "OH FUCK THAT!....Gonna wait and see how this plays out...."
Well, this is the same show that made Hazel lose his shit because his sister died, you know, a huntsman who was trained to fight monsters and likely die. So what does he do? Join the very person responsible for controlling the Grim, the very person likely to be responsible for Gretchen's death...yeah, that made sense. The whole reveal of Hazel's motivation was DAF. Sure, imagine Pirrah's sisters joining Salem and Cinder because, oh, she wanted to be a huntsman and died "like every other huntsman in history" (Roman Torchwich) I really hope there's more to it than just that, like maybe Ozpin actually killed Gretchen, that would put a dark spin on events, but as it stands, its just stupid. The one thing that really got me annoyed with this season was Yang constantly referring to Raven as "mom", she hadn't earned that right and I wish she would have called her Raven to express that sense of distance and resentment at the woman who gave birth to her. Though I do think the talk between Weiss and Yang was one of the best things in the whole series, I think Yang accepting Blake into that hug so easily was bullshit. I have a feeling they're going to brush over the whole anxiety/awkwardness/resentment of Blake's return the same way they dealt with Yang's PTSD, sweep it under the rug. I don't want the same RWBY team as before the split. This is a team that's been damaged, emotionally challenged to confront their fears and in Weiss and Yang's case, face their abandonment. I want that sense of uncertainty in an uncertain world to continue, I want Ozpin to be called out for taking control of Oscar against his will at the end of the fight, I want serious tension between Yang and Blake, I want the fear of returning to her home to nearly cripple Weiss emotionally and I want Yang to return the favor and talk to her, I want the old Adam back, not this foaming at the mouth lunatic we got in volume 5, I want Hazel to have a legitimate reason to hate Ozpin, not simply being a "my sister did what she wanted to do and she got killed and its your fault" bullshit. There's a lot of holes in the story that need to be fixed and I really worry that the writers may not be able to pull it off. But here's hoping
FeyWinter Fox Yeah the characters have a problem with Ozpin giving the Branwen twins the useful and life saving ability to change into birds but don’t have a problem with Ozpin possessing little boys. I’m glad that the writers chose that over them talking about you know what will happen to Oscar due to the possession thing.
FeyWinter Fox for real. i was waiting for the subsequent episode to explain what the drawback is, like maybe their lifespan shortens when they use it for WHATEVER reason, maybe after a certain point they'll permanently become birds, maybe they have a closet craving for worms n bugs now, SOMETHING but no its treated as fucked up all on its own. Ohno a pretty cool but standard superpower to turn into a bird in a world full of people with other super powers AND AN ENTIRE RACE OF PEOPLE BORN WITH ANIMAL ATTRIBUTES, how evil of you Ozpin.... Fuck M&K have some serious explaining to do in V6 on a lot of stuff
I swear CRWBY would've made Raven vs. Cinder off-screen if it wasn't for the fact that RWBY was hitting the climax and it would have nothing else to show. Even if that specific fight was below average, all things considered.
Hahaha thats just sad, but im not surprised since A LOT of these badly written "serious shows" always work better as comedies, like with Carnival phantasm to Fate and Tsukihime,
Sadly, RWBY was always dependent on style over substance since the very beginning. And without Monty, M&K have to focus more on the story instead of the fight scenes. Speaking as someone who's currently constructing his own fantasy world, Worldbuilding is a LOT of work. And you need to think very carefully about each piece of lore you insert. Because if even one aspect of the world doesn't make sense, the whole thing will fall apart.
They don’t have to, they have people capable of creating amazing fight choreography. And they’ve gone out of their way to make the story worse with the macguffins railroading it
I may be late but I agree, I wrote one part of a book about a fantasy world and it’s extremely hard. I not only had to think about characters but try and build worlds,powers,and other shit and I still need to work on it but I have school.
i hate many things about rwby these days. blake not getting slapped at the end is very high on the list right now. just give me two weeks and access to the scripts, i'd get all this shit sorted out.
The scene with Raven could have been much better if it was revealed that Raven *wanted* to take Yang with her, but Qrow wouldn't allow it, not wanting Taiyang's flesh and blood to be raised as a bandit. Raven could've said that she only left Taiyang because the tribe's last leader(maybe even her and Qrow's father) had just died and Raven was the only one qualified to lead. EDIT: Also, I definitely agree that Yang should've interacted with Adam. If Yang killed him, then that would be absolutely amazing for further character development. Especially if Yang had Adam beaten and unarmed(ha) already.
I'm really hoping for some of really fucked up reason why Raven left and didn't take Yang, beyond the whole ""bandit"" thing. I want there to be some shred of humanity in Raven to make her not such an anti-sue. EDIT: Also, that be super shitty if Qrow influenced his sister to leave her babby when in Family and More the Merrier Qrow was obviously upset that she left STRQ. That wouldn't make much since, but again, this is RWBY.
The world of Remnant is a shitty place. You can't win. You either die in the Kingdoms under Ozpin's illusions or die in a creepy den of bandits. Also you kinda have to remember Qrow was over the whole being a bandit thing by the time Yang was born so it wouldn't surprise me if he pushed his new found altruist beliefs on Raven. I don't think Raven as a bandit and raising a child is that shitty, she's just some thug trying to survive in a world of endless trash that she's first hand experienced. In fact, if she raised Yang herself that would have given us something to empathize with. Also, I'm just going to assume that Raven isn't the first bandit in her world to birth a child, lol (remember that Mistral was supposed to have a really seedy underbelly that we never got to see?). But fuck it, that's trotting into world building territory and we all know Miles and Kerry are just terrible at that. Something that still baffles me is that she left her family to be responsible for a whole camp of bandits while she didn't choose to stay and be responsible for one child. Miles and Kerry can't stare me in the face and tell me rising a single child is harder than protecting some tribe of bandits. Wut the fuck is going on in this show?
It is not that raising a child in a bandit camp is particularly shitty but that before then the three of them (lol, I messed up my time earlier. Ruby was not born yet unless Taiyang is a slut) lived on a peaceful island making good money with their skills as Huntsmen. She had a chance to give her daughter a nice life in a stable home with the man she presumably loved. Lol, maybe Raven knew that Yang would grow up to be like her and best her to become the new woman of the house. Also, are we sure that Qrow _isn’t_ a super shitty person? Beyond the alcoholism, it seems he is just the same as Raven: loyal to his family and his secretive group. Raven lets her thugs molest children in gas stations and Qrow lets an immortal being use children as pawns. Raven and Qrow were born into the bandit tribe, right? Whatever happen to their parents? I hope nothing unnecessarily edgy involving rapey bandits. I suddenly do remember Mistral existing beyond a hotel, a bar, and a foyer. Boy, if only that had ever done anything. Remember how varied the Kingdom of Mistral is supposed to be? Remember that Pyrrha’s family lives in the Greek part? Remember that Juan melted down her possessions for armor trim, as if Ruby would get to keep Weiss’ shit if she got glassed? Technically it is possible that Raven teleported back constantly to run the tribe. Why they would want a 17-year-old to run the tribe is beyond me, or why they wanted Raven back in the first place after she did not come back like she was supposed to. Not a single bandit wanted to take her place as leader? They did fine without Qrow. Bad writing is going on with the show. Bad writing and the creator having passed on, leaving overworked, grief-stricken amateurs to scramble a plot together. But that is for Volume 3. After that, it is purely incompetence and terrible decision-making.
BlotlessScribe tbh my theory involves the tribe having been much cooler and family oriented in the past, with Raven and Qrow's parent running it. Then maybe the twins get considered soft after being sent to brain to basically infiltrate/learn how to better kill huntsmen. Cue possible mutiny. Seems to me a genuine threat on the lives of her team/family to either rejoin or watch them die is a good reason to leave. then again K&m Have set up raven thus far to be too edgy/distant to properly portray a back story where the audience can empathize with her. ..
I don't even watch this show but I really enjoy your videos because they always have good narrative criticism that I feel applies to all forms of storytelling. Plus, you don't beat around the bush with what you have to say, dude. Nice work.
The fact that Yang just miraculously got over her DEEP TRAUMA and became a super cool badass overnight is honestly an injustice. If you don't want to write a character with PTSD (which was the issue, from what I heard), don't put your characters in situations where someone would end up with it. She had such potential for a fantastic character arc where she actually became the first character in the series to show any semblance of character development (which probably would have been the only good thing about season 5 anyway) and it was all just thrown away.
The "Ruby's mom left too" bit has always bothered me as well. RUBY'S mom?! Didn't she raise you too? LEFT?! The woman died! Why would you say "she left" as if she just went out to get milk for 13 years and chose not to come back?
so what you mean to tell me is that Barbra hypes up RWBY on twitter so much, but laughs off an actual good question about the show?? "iTs a cArtOon" says the same women who goes on twitter hyping up this volume to be best story in literature.
I got three reasons why that comment is beyond bullshit. Batman TAS, Justice league, Avatar. Three of the best CARTOONS ever made. They would not fuck up this hard. They have no excuse. You cant ask for us to give a shit about a character with complex issues, make fanfics/memes about her, by your fucking merch and then praise you when you do nothing with them. Fuck you RT
When I first got into RWBY, I hated Yang because her character suffered no consequences. She can throw tantrums about vain little things like her hair and no one cares, this was worse for her as it was with any other character. I thought this would change when she lost against Neo and used that as a stepping stone to get better and control herself more but it's swept under the rug. I can't enjoy that fight because she didn't learn anything. Then she 'crippled' Mercury, I was happy to see her face the music and get some conflict over one of the main character's recklessness. It's not handled well at all besides the fact that it caused mistrust in Blake but that's dealt with, barely under a minute. I gave up after this, I watched too many anime to know that the MC's don't suffer consequences and they win all the time, until..... *Adam cuts off Yang's arm* I was ecstatic when this happened. Finally Yang has to face reality and learn that she can't always punch her way out of everything and V4 was doing great with it. When we got the sparring scene, I could love it or hate it because it brings the issues I had with Yang to light and we got a nice moment with Tai. The bad parts of it, I had to wait and see what happened since I knew she could have been lying about her confidence. That is until V5.... I agree with you that V5 screwed her over. I mean I know Shay D Mann was a creep but when she punched him, it jeopardized her development for me. She went straight to violence but since she was shaken from it, I tried to give her a chance until that stupid Bandit scene! She kicks all the asses of the supposed Bandits that were hyped up so much and just gets shaky hands! Yang should have lost and be traumatized from having to fight Bandits after months on bed rest, depression and sparring with Daddy! Most of them used swords, like the man who dismembered her. But explain to me how a glass being broken can trigger her but not lethal weapons?! Unrelated but still an idea but if I had a chance to rewrite this scene, I would have Yang be able to fight off the brawlers but when she has to face the bandits with swords, I would have her lose her steam and falter. Then when they got her down have Vernal arrive, see Yang and then take her to Raven. It would still be a great fight but with the context making sense! It would show the 'strength' of the Bandits, realistically have Yang still dealing with PTSD beyond hand shaking and show her how big the world is. Everything after this I agree with you, but I actually did like the Yang and Raven conflict. Yang is a hit and miss character, they have good ideas with her but fail to execute them well or not at all. Good video man.
Rixarts I agree with you. Yang is a character I dislike because she’s unbearable. She’s like a small child. Always wanting attention because she has no personality and she knows it. The only way she can stay relevant is by acting the way she does. She, Blake and Ruby are all terrible characters
Also in the yellow trailer, I was surprised that Yang didn't get some type of punishment or fines for sexually harrassing a man and willingly destroying a night club. And the fans still say she's the best character ever and has little to no flaws. 🤔
I'm saying this around 8:30, but I always thought that the reason why she never actually called Summer her mom despite the fact that for all intents and purposes she was her mom, is because after Summer died and she found out that Raven was her birth mother, she felt that she was the person that deserved to grieve the least, since Summer technically is only her step mother. And she then wanted to track down Raven as a way of grieving in her own way after the passing of the person she called "Mommy". By focusing on Raven, she didn't focus on the death of Summer, which allowed her to be the pillar of Strength that her family needed. Searching for Raven was a coping mechanism of sorts. Of course, this was what I thought. I know realize I'm giving the writers too much credit. I was really looking forward to Yang and Raven having a confrontation with Yang going "No. You're not my Mom. You are just to person who gave birth to me. Summer Rose is my Mother." Natrually, this could still be the case, but it's unlikely at this point.
This is a very interesting theory. I never thought that Yang actually has been through trouble in her life, and I respect that. On the other hand, you are right about authors. They should think more when they're writing a script, otherwise the audience will just get disgusted easily.
This girl went from my favorite character to my second least favorite character, from a brave and hot headed yet loving and fun sister to bland and boring LGBTQ representation. Oh how I wish Monty was here
I thought when Yang got mad at Blake they were setting up for an epic fight between the two where Yang would release her anger theyd talk and open up...and then forgive her ya know shonen style who wouldnt want to see that?! But no everything has to be easy god damn the ships ahhhhhh!
Personally, I was hoping the next time Adam was encountered by Yang it would have gone like this scene from Alpha Protocol. th-cam.com/video/E06702u2iig/w-d-xo.html
CN What I'm Saiyan? What's even worse is how weak he was shown in volume 5. In volume 3 he was toying with Blake and one shot Yang. And the rematch was just Blake hitting him on the head once. That makes no sense!
Unless it was some convoluted plan to lull them into a false sense of security so that he could ambush and kill Blake, which honestly would be the best damn thing to happen in the series since volume 3's start. Gonna say it right here. Fuck BB shippers. They're ruining the show. Yang should've hated Blake's guts, since Blake's given her literally no reason to forgive. Also...Edgy Badass is a weakling cliche...DESPITE EVERYTHING ELSE HE'S DONE! WTF!
RWBY is like the Abyss from Made in Abyss Ascending in the first layer (V1) gives you slight lightheadedness, ascending in the second (V2) results in heavy nausea and vomiting, ascending in the third (V3) makes hallucinations and vomiting And going up in the 4th layer (V4) results in bleeding out of every orifice, going up in the 5th (V5) results in a loss of all senses Watching Volume 6 will result in the loss of our humanity and Volume 7 will result in death xD
Considering all the retconning and how the 9th circle is reserved for the traitors, I'd say they're already there. I like to imagine Lucifer just spat out Judas, Brutus, and Cassius just so he could eat up Miles, Kerry, and Barbara.
Dragonage2ftw Considering that V5 accomplished nothing, Volume 6 and beyond have nothing to build off of unless the writers pull something out of their ass. The villains aren't a threat, they're going to Atlas, which Teams RWBY and JNR are irrelevant in and can't have any feasible growth in, and the only way to give Salem a victory is to make Watts an OP hacker, which he clearly isn't. Add to the fact that Atlas isa militarized country under a lockdown....Salem has no shot at a victory, here. So why are they going? I'm not seeing how the show having no feasible place to go from here isn't raising any red flags for...ANYONE who isn't me...
I’m so mad summer isn’t mentioned in the volume as much as I would’ve liked. It’s almost like they forgot about her character. As sad as it is it is very likely it was down to the shipping fgs. I actually really like Raven but I hate how Yang acts like she knows her (like you mentioned) also side note what the fuck did they do with Adam?!
And where am I making excuses? I like Raven’s character not what she did. And yes as you said ‘Raven abandoned her family’ so why would Yang say to Raven ‘How could you?’ In regards to the spring maiden when she has already experienced the ‘ultimate’ betrayal by her? Also read my comment again. I’m not making excuses
Yes Soul6 that’s exactly what they did! He used to be so fricking cool too (imo) but clearly RWBY can’t have any good characters anymore (with a few expectations of course) so they went and had to screw over his entire fucking character! V3 Adam would’ve fucked up V5 Blake with that stupid punch of hers, wouldn’t have hesitated to slice her neck off...my god did they ruin him....
You did it again, Vexed! I'll admit Barb's acting at first was beyond god-awful but I give her props from improving (somewhat). Though we all know that the script is crappy as all hell, she's doing what she can. She's below average at best (it's get tolerable after a while unlike Raven's and Cinder's VAs who make my ears bleed from the lack of emotional range, overacting, and sheer cringiness from what they say...) I'm not denying that RWBY has fantastic VAs when it comes to the characters. Jaune is...annoyingly one of them. Miles should honestly stick with just being a VA and hire someone else to write. He's really good, great even! (though I hate Jaune with a passion because it seems the show is revolving around him too much which doesn't give the other characters time to grow), but if I look at Team RWBY, I can't really say they have great VA's. Weiss (a character they did well, not right has improved somewhat but there are many areas where she comes off as bland), Blake (a frustrating cat-astrophe but she had some good vocal moments), Yang (eehhhhhhh...tolerable...) and Ruby (the worst protagonist ever written but there were areas where she sounded adorable.) Another thing they did good with Yang was her PTSD arc. That was actually handled better than I was anticipating. She became a shell of the proud, tough, fiery Yang we grew accustomed too. She's now feeling sorry for herself. Personally, I believe it was one of Barb's/Yang's best scenes. Yang's frustrated, upset and hurt that Blake just up and left after Yang risked her life and lost an arm. I resonated well with that scene because I know first hand what it's like to be at such a low-point wallowing in self-pity as well as failure and when people give you a resolution (in her case, an arm), it feels like adding insult to injury. Any person who has/had depression knows how jarring and insulting it is to have someone else come up and tell them to 'get over it'. The depressed person needs to let out their negativity through fear, sadness, anger etc. (Everyone is different.) I personally went through sadness and anger because I had people (family and friends) to gently push them towards such emotions, until I felt emotionally less strained and I got up again. Yang clung to any and every reason to justify being miserable, to justify staying down. She was confronted, however, by her father, Oobleck and Peter about it. She needed to do some soul-searching until she found the strength to dust herself off and finally, get up. These little scenes (I have to admit) were golden scenes and I respect the writers for showing that. They could have done a better job to be frank, by thoroughly exploring that avenue BUT I like to give credit where credit is due. I honestly did enjoy seeing that side of Yang. But of course, all good things eventually come to an end. What pissed me off the most what not only how EASY AND CONVENIENT it was for Yang to find her mother (Qrow says go here, Yang does and poof! Yang finds Raven! And yes, I know they retconned that scene in V2, I think where Raven saved Yang from Neo and said, "Yang, we have alot to talk about." but it doesn't change from the fact that finding Raven was contrived as all hell) but that scene where Yang and Raven had their 'confrontation' over the Relic. I swear, I can't watch that scene without wanting to yell in anger. What's worse is that V5 was overall REALLY REALLY BAD. I'm not sure how I would fix it. But Yang's PTSD arc I personally would explore more. Because Raven and Adam have the same colour scheme, similar fighting style and Grimm masks, I would personally play into that. I would have Yang being confronted time and time again with her fear of Adam, which would build up to that moment where Yang would finally have the strength (emotionally, physically and mentally) to confront Adam himself. But the whole plot around the Maidens and the Relics...have made things more complicated. I said it before, their ideas though good, aren't refined. Personally, I think it would be too soon if Yang confronted Adam in this volume. I feel if her PTSD arc was fully fleshed out and we see her struggle with it here, it would be so satisfying next volume to see her truly battle Adam. Of course, this is all my own opinion. It's just sad that the character are beloved purely for their designs. They aren't really characters because they lack the intricacies of what MAKES a good character. And Yang...even though I'm not a huge fan of hers, to see her wanting to find her mother at all costs to suddenly not giving a shit just makes me sigh and facepalm. I'm seriously glad that I'm no longer a blind die-hard fan because I see RWBY for what it *truly* is - a bad show disguised as a good one, relying on the other shell (the visual quality) than the inner intricate details which add layers of TRUE quality. It's actually saddening. Can you imagine Oda doing this to One Piece? Or Imagine Avatar: The Last Airbender or Berserk being this way? Each of them give quality and complexity! Gahhhhh.... You can have fun moments in a story but you can also have dark elements. I didn't like the Legend of Korra at all BUT even I can admit that the dark elements it explored was fantastic. I don't find it to be on the same level with the Aang's story but Korra had its moments. Even with Monty around, RWBY was *not* perfect but still, I believed hard in it's potential, it's destiny for greatness, as cliched as it sounds. And it hurts, as a writer and a fan to see RWBY decline so damn quickly. Anyway, Vexed. I want to thank you for doing these videos, and shedding light on the truth of RWBY. Truly, you're the greatest and I salute you. Jodia.
Jodia-Jess Clayton Ruby, Weiss, and Yang all have great VAs. The reason Yang stopped caring was cause she realised her mom never cared about her. Its justified. Dont go trying to justify parental abandonment here. And Weiss is easily the best character and a great one.
@AnthonyInteriano With all due respect, everything I said was *MY OPINION.* My opinion and no one elses. For me, Team RWBY VAs have their good moments and bad. I'm not being biased, I'm being honest. Out of Team RWBY, I agree with you, Weiss is the one I like because they wrote her character well, not right. *WELL.* There have been moments where the voice-acting was good as well as dreadful. I'm being objective. As for Yang's character, the so-called 'writers' did not do her character justice which seems to be a running theme with throughout RWBY. Things that were established in earlier seasons, especially some character traits, tend to come and go i.e. Yang's drive to find and talk to her mother that was established and then it vanished, and that does not make for a good character. I could go on about all the characters, the ones I like and loathe. I could detail what the writers did well, what they sucked at and how they could have done a better job, but I won't. If you don't like it, that is not my problem. Just as you are entitled to your own opinion on the show, I am entitled to mine. I stated how I felt as both a fan and a critic, that's it.
Jodia-Jess Clayton I don't understand why people say that the show revolves around Jaune too much. He's my favorite character, but I think the small( in my opinion) amount of screen time he gets is perfect. He isn't the main character(Ruby) or the other three main characters the show is based off of(Weiss, Blake, and Yang). That said, where is all this Jaune screen time everyone complains about? Sure he has Jaunedice, but compared to everything else happening in seasons 1 &2, that was a small amount of time. Ever since Pyrrha died Jaune has had (from what I remember); That one moment in V4 Episode 1 where he gets better gear. The part where Ruby finds him training, but no one does anything to stop this unhealthy act. The part toward the end where he yelled at Cinder(he does look like a dumbass in this part) The part where he saves Weiss And that's it. So I'm confused. I'll admit he is featured a lot in Fanfiction, but that's different.
The writers need to take a class on character development or watch Bojack Horseman. The only way we can relate to the characters is if you make them human and humans have a natural progression and don’t instantly have things fixed with one conversation. It takes time and energy to forgive someone and to heal from trauma. Stop telling and not showing. If every character is idealized from the very beginning, we can’t grow with and relate to the characters. I loved the concept for this show when it first came out, but I’m losing interest. I didn’t even buy RWBY Vol. 4 or Vol. 5 OST like I normally do. 💔
Some characters get a lot of screen time, but no development Ex: Asta (Annoying main character from Black Clover) Jotaro Kujo (JoJo) A basic stoic badass character with no personality what-so-ever Well, he has very little personality Guy's a total douche I prefer Joseph Sure he can be annoying sometimes, but he can also be hilarious Atleast he's not a dick to everyone like Jotaro is Then there are well developed characters like Gaara (Naruto) Goes from being batshit crazy to being an actually decent guy
Jon Wootton Spoiler for part four and six Jotaro is far more interesting later because of is master student with josuke and in part 6 is stoic and harsh behaviour cause him a lot of trouble communicating with is daughter
I was annoyed that Yang just accpted Blake back with open arms. now that you pointed out how she called her mom out for leaving them and how angry she got then just goes to taking blake back, it just really drives in how bad Miles and Kerry are with writing
DevilJin These two scenario"s aren't really the same at all. Raven left out of cowardice, Blake left because she believed she was putting her friends in danger. Remember her talk with Weiss in Alone Together? That was there to give Yang some perspective on why Blake left.
that still does not excuse Blake shitty behavior, a friend lost a limb because of her and she also ran because she is a coward, she THINKS her friends are in danger because of her but if Blake never went to Beacon Academy Cinder and the White fang still would have attacked it.
She has good reason to think her friends are in danger because of her, Adam threatened to destroy everything she loved and then backed it up by going after Yang specifically. I'm not saying she made the right choice by running away and neither is the show, It was a mistake that Blake made with good intentions unlike Raven who ran away because the fight was too much for her. How should Yang have responded? Should she have shut Blake out forever and never talk to her again regardless of the actual context?
it does not matter, she is still a coward, just because you can understand what some one did, does not automatically imply acceptance or forgiveness. Yang should still be upset with her. regardless of her intention Blake is a coward and a horrible friend for abandoning them. Adam knew who yang was, he could have gone after her after Beacon if he wanted to even if Blake was around or not. Blake is also dumb in thinking that abandoning them some how protects them when they are already targets. Yang shouldn't have accepted Blake back so quick, it should have been something to happen over time. have Blake suffer with the repercussion of her actions. Yang can give her the cold shoulder for a while and not really want to talk to her, during fights Yang does not want or need Blakes help, since she think she is unreliable, Yang not going to depend on some one who is unreliable. she has to earn that trust back not just automatically get it soon as she shows her stupid face.
Yang has gained some perspective from her talk with Weiss as opposed to previously when for all she knew Blake had abandoned them for no reason. She hasn't necessarily forgiven her just because she doesn't try and give her the cold shoulder during their teams big reunion. They'll obviously have to talk about it again at some point but those issues will keep till later. Yang has at this point in my opinion, matured enough to take the reasons for Blakes abandonment and the fact that she ultimately did come back to help them into account when she sees her again. I'm not saying she should be forgiven outright and it's not implied that she is by the fact that Yang doesn't object to her joining in on the team RWBY group hug, just that for now given everything that's happened, They can talk about it later.
You're my favourite RWBY criticism youtuber and I don't like any of the other youtubers. It was very funny and entertaining to watch you try to control the Weiss and Yang scene. I Love Yang btw.
Yep, it's official, RWBY is dead. I'm glad I dropped this shit back in volume 3. Yang is my favorite character, so seeing her the way she is now makes my heart hurt. But I would love to see her beat the shit out of Blake.
If Bumblebee happens just to please the rabid shippers then this show will literally have become top tier garbage. I have nothing against shipping, I'm a shipper myself, but some fandoms just get out of control and everything becomes toxic.
I love Yang as a character. She's confident, upbeat, but kinda broken inside. My favourite moments with her are the more serious ones, especially the part where she's recovering. I wanted to see more of that, even though it made me wish I could teleport into Remnant just to give her a hug. The last arc, though...it pissed me off to see how much they fucked her character up. Raven is just...So bad. Just...Why? Having the Bandits win would've been a good character development moment, and having Weiss break out to save Yang, then being subdued by Raven would have made an interesting story. Weiss might get ransomed back to Schnee, with Weiss coming back with an Atlesian army, only to find the bandits gone, and have Yang spend time in the Bandit camp (forcibly). Would've been a far more interesting story, and might have given a legitimate reason for reinforcements arriving at Haven. (Weiss and Winter coming to the rescue with Atlesian forces), while Yang breaks free from her mother's camp during the battle, joins up with RWBY...and then punches Blake in the face as soon as the battle ends. With her metal arm. Bumblebee can die in the trash fire it is, though. Blake is probably my least favourite character in the series. She mistreats Sun, leaves her 'friends' after one of them (Yang obviously) is maimed helping her stupid ass out of a jam, and overall is just...ugh. At least she's been confirmed to have trash taste, and NOT be lesbian. (Illea flat out stated that Blake was interested in Adam, even though Blake had a hot chameleon chick wanting to get into her hot pants).
At this point the only member of team rwby that hasnt been completely fucked over and has had a mostly stable character arc is weiss. Hopefully they can fix things in volume 6 with all the characters being together and having one central story.
2:39 to be honest i was actually happy that she lost her arm when that happened. thoughtout the volume i was getting annoyed by her cocky attitude in fights which didn't help given her OP win button semblence that allowed her to predictably win her fights for her in no unique fashion. its the semblence equivalent to the easy button. in fact the only people to beat her or given her a hard time were those who purposefully avoided the easy button which makes yang in either one of two states in a fight. either uncreatively broken or exploitativly gimmicky. i hoped that by losing her arm would grant her some humility.
At the birds part and Thats exactly what i was saying isnt having more mobility a good thing? I mean if there where draw backs like you being forced to turn into one like a werewolf then at the very least that would kinda suck but from what we've seen thats not the case as crow freely transforms so that part was really dumb
I know them reusing animation for fights is hardly new. But there was so little actual fighting in the fight. To find out that what little fighting there was, some of it was just reused feels so cheap
7:25 Okay anyone who forgot that detail about Yang and Summers relationship, raise your hand. Now take that hand and facepalm. You have everything to be ashamed of because apparently we all collectively became as dumb as MK.
Honestly I think that Yang really should have had PTSD. Her fear could've given her a REAL challenge to overcome. Also I hate bumblebee, please don't let that be cannon...
Robert Just Robert the worst part is that she does.Its just that they decided to suddenly forget every time they write her until they suddenly remember "oh yeah,she's still scared".
Mmm, I still Barb’s voice acting sucks even if it has improved from god-awful to below average. At least she isn’t as bad as Raven... or Jessica Nigri. IMHO, there are only a handful of decent VAs in RWBY and none of the members of Team RWBY are amongst them. Ozpin, Jaune (I must begrudgingly admit that Miles is a passable VA), Oscar, Oobleck, Glynda, Ironwood, Whitley, and Sun. I did not include Qrow, Salem, or Mercury because I do not think the writers have given them scenes that sufficiently allow these talented VAs (who are wasted on this show) to truly stretch their muscles.
The original cast was chosen largely because it's who was available at the time among RT employees. That's why you have literally the receptionist among them. As the show became more popular, they increasingly hired better talent.
Lol I never realised how bad the writing is. I mean, if you try really really really hard, you can rationalize just about anything to justify why they do the things they do, but that's too much work for "just a cartoooooon." It's just bad, lazy writing. Hope season m Volume 6 addresses some of these issues! They'd be damn fools not to have an eye on your channel.
I'm glad you pointed out the "Mom" nonsense. Because honestly, something about their encounters seemed off to me and that really helped put things into perspective. What I've come to known, is the term "Mother" or "Father" is used for a relationship that's sometimes based off of formalities, but also on a lack of a relationship. People use "Mother" or "Father" as an underhanded insult or speak it with vinegar sometimes and it makes sense. It sounds formal, like, you don't intend to address them as anything closer except by their title. Yang calling Raven her mom definitely felt weird. If she said Raven, that would have been more impactful or fitting. Just, calling her by her name. But at least, the term Mother would have worked more. Nice vid!
LITERALLY unfortunately my mother and i don’t get along very well, and though she isn’t by biological mother, i don’t know anything else. but still, she’s the one who RAISED me and i call her ‘mother’ in my phone and to her face when I’m really pissed. i didn’t even realize how little sense yang calling raven ‘mom’ was until it was pointed out in this video
Soopur 6 my thoughts exactly. I think I’ll just see volume 6 to see how bad it can get or to find out who the winter maiden is. If it crosses the line and pulls some fanfiction bs. I will lmao and drop the show.
This is the first video I watched from you. Yang is one of my favorite characters, but, and I can’t believe I’m saying this... You’re right. They totally disrespected Yang’s development and ruined her recovery by skipping over her training in Vol 4. And you made a goddamn amazing point when Yang went down to the vault. That was complete bullshit that they made Yang go fight Cinder, Vernal, and Raven BY HERSELF. And I have to say that I was not a big fan of Raven and Yang’s talk in the final episode of Vol 5. I mean Yang talks like she knows Raven. She doesn’t. She really doesn’t. Plus she doesn’t know how powerful Salem is like her mom does (Oh, wait, she saw that vision near the end. Maybe that could be triggering to her in Vol 6 or something). You have made such good points about Yang, and while her character is still in works and at various parts, I’ll still watch the show and hope that they’ll still fix everything in Vol 6.
I agree with basically all your points. Also I got really pissed when Barb said "it's just a cartoon" and when Miles said that about plotholes. Also I'm really debating if I should drop RWNY. it's really overrated and the fanbase is terrible (not all of it). The writing has gone to shit and there's really no continuity. If volume 6 is bad I'll give up cause that'll be 3 bad volumes in a row. I mean the 4th one was alright but the 5th was terrible
Why even bother keeping Yang around at this point? Her story is done and any conflict she could've had is gone. She's about as important as Nora and Ren.
So a while ago in there was a massive argument in the RWBY fandom, between those that shipped Bumblebee and those that shipped Black-Sun, it went on such that people started to say things like "this is what Monty would have wanted..." and it got so bad that the voice actress for Blake came stepped in to try and calm the situation down, only to have some of these fandom shippers attacking her online (i don;t know what this entails, but she did get harassed from some fans). Pretty much that is the story i know, and that there are some people who take shipping a little too seriously.
Agt.BADASS from my pov Bumblebee and other ship take too much place for a ship it's almost a joke at this point and i'm sorry too say that but Blake and Yang shouldn't be together cause those two have 999999 reason to fight each other . Beside shippiing in general is kind of a kid thing where they are yelling "the kiss ! The kiss ! " In cercle,you know the kind of thing 9 years Old kid does . . . But most of all Bumblebee is just a joke which have gone to far , And you know what they Say about joke when they are way too long .😑
I think what gets me the most rustled about this series isnt so much the plot holes and horrible writing but the attitude of the creators. They literally do not care "ITS JUST A CARTOOOOOON" They dont even have any respect for their own shit so why should I care about their work?
LIGHTFANG02 They don’t even respect their fans. I have seen people comment to them on twitter about some MAJOR criticisms they have with the show, but the people said it in a very respectful way. And Miles would just get pissed at anyone who doesn’t like it. They cannot take any criticism at all, so the show quite possibly will not get any better unless Burnie Burns walks into their offices, and kicks their asses until they start taking it seriously.
You know something is wrong when I was so unsatisfied, I spent 2 entire hours rewriting the show in my mind And then I spend 4 more hours writing a (partially self insert) OC..... Don't blame me, it's fun
Orchid Snow-Crystal dude, blaming you for writing Fanfics? In VV's last video, I pointed out how that helps RWBY quite a bit. Hell, if you post it tell the name and I'll read it.
Orchid Snow-Crystal ive done that before, i rewrote the naruto series so many times in my head it became a copy of the daredevil netflix show, dont ask how that happend
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> Be me
> Literally me
> Yes, that's me
> Watches RWBY, loved it even though it was a cringefest
> Volume 4 airs
> Whatthefuck.jpg are these fight scenes
> Learns there's a convention for RT
> Looks into panels to see if they'll talk about their animation process
> Applies for work for several months while also taking classes
> saves just about every earning I get so I can plan a trip to Austin from Seattle
> Costs about 2k for the entire thing
> flies down to Austin
> gets into hotel room
> has convention panels planned out for each day
> plan out question for RWBY panel
> Specifically gets in line and sits right beside the microphone to guarantee I get that 2000$ question in
> 4th or 3rd in line
> Air conditioning doesn't help because Austin is a billion degrees compared to Seattle
> Look like a mess
> Everyone except one other person jerks off Miles and Kerry with pointless not-questions
> Finally its my turn
> Damn I'm in front of thousands of people
> breathes
> "How did Jaune obtain Pyrrha's weapons after the fall of Beacon?"
> Barb: "ITS A CARTOOOOOON"
> was so stunned I couldn't speak
> Miles and Kerry give two completely different answers to my question
> Kerry gives the most logical one, that Qrow got the stuff from the CCT tower
> Miles claims Pyrrha has multiple sets of her clothes but this means Jaune sneaked into Grimm infested territory to steal his dead girlfriend's clothes, which just raises way more questions
> They laugh off my question but end up giving me a RWBY poster
> SweetISavedLike15$.png
> Later gets blocked by Arryn and Gray
> Any questions I ask Miles and Kerry on Twitter are ignored, like asking for a Dust chart so people know what each type can or can't do or clarifying what Aura does
> They don't care about their own work
> This shit inspires me to make a better work than RWBY
> Will try to finish writing the script this summer and then begin drawing the stuff next year or maybe learn to model stuff and animate in 3D
> Literally going to animation school to make better shit than RT
> now where's my paycheck for doing those animation reviews on Volumes 4 and 5?
> sad reacts only
> send floofs to my Twitter please
No lie Floof, I'd be angry too especially the part where they just laugh at you in your face in front everybody in the panel.
Hell, I was mad in Volume 4 when they stole a concept for one of my characters I drew.
But don't worry, I got your back and I'm sure you and all of your followers and fans o too. ^_^
Wait, they actually stole a character concept from you? Which one? And how did they steal it?
Damn, feels bad Floof...
Darrick Bell
Back up, they stole a concept from a character? Which one?
www.deviantart.com/dcb2art/art/SOAR-Vein-Prowler-Revamped-740848471 I made and posted this character on my Deviantart before volume 4 and when Volume 4 came out and they revealed Tyrian his character, personality, were the same as my character but worse and they stole my scorpian themed idea by making Tyrian a Scorpian Fanus.
"Yang is alright, I mean left"
10/10 best pun
That Ostrich from Family Guy: Hahaaaaaa
If she flashes you is she a flash yang? Get it flash bang but instead of bang it's yang
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I agree on everything except the Yang punching Blake thing. Yang would never raise a hand in anger against a friend.
...Then again, I used to think the same about Blake. *flashbacks to the Sun slapping scene*
She didn't actually have to punch Blake. Just wanted some friction there
Solora Goldsun It doesn't have to be an anger fight. If I was writing V6 I would show Yang having Trust issues with Blake when it comes to doing their combo moves and either Qrow or Opzin have them do a sparring match to get everything out in the open. They have a spar, Yang and Blake pour all their grief out during the fight, and they come out as better friends because of it.
Ooh, I like that idea! *fingers crossed*
Solora Goldsun why thank you. :)
not as bad but she did shove blake
Yang seem more angry about Ozpin turning Qrow and Raven into birds than how he kinda guilted/forced Pyrrha into being the fall maiden and lead her to her death.
you don't know how mad that makes me.
saramations it seem like everyone is over it beside Jaune but it seem weird that they trust Ozpin still. I mean he is possessing a young boy
See, that's why Raven is my favorite character. She seems to be the only one who can think for herself, she may be morally questionable, but it works well in contrast to our "heroes". Raven knows first hand that Ozpin is a shady dude, she may have been bullshitting Yang but from an audience perspective, Raven has been right the entire time (but this also makes her characterization very weak).
Also Ozpin: Haha, I let one of my ex-lieutenants go free and use the gift of magic I gave her to raize villages, haha no big deal. :^)
this and possessing Oscar are the primary reasons to be skeptical of Oz. They already showed Jaune being mad about Pyrrha, and it would've worked better if raven explained more about Oz being able to possess boys, or even having seen it before. He'll, if they really wanted to buckle down on the bird thing then have it have been against their will; maybe Qrow was OK with it (likes being useful in spite of his semblance) but Raven as more independent could've refused (not wanting to be a tool). There; done.
I do love this show but I'm slowly learning I do mostly for the potential of the characters rather than what actually happens. v5 had some easily fixable flaws. I'll continue watching since I genuinely appreciate the characters and story, but I really worry for the acrobatics needed to tie some things together
did you forget she told ozpin not to give her the rest of the details. he didn't guilt trip those were the facts. It's not his fault she acted like a little bitch shortly after because of her pointless crush.
*"* If you keep it *vague,* then you don't have to worry about the *Plot holes* ...and you just focus on the *Story."*
What an Oxymoron.
Emphasis on moron
Martin White II Always on the moron
Dragonage2ftw Oh, really? Honestly, how the hell are you going to try justifying this? How the hell does keeping things vague avoid plot holes?
The theory is that keeping it vague means that you won't have little details that contradict each other in ways you didn't plan.
Empirically, you're more likely to not have enough structure to avoid having important details contradict each other in ways you didn't plan.
but miles straight up said if u make official dates plotholes can come up yeh miles as if your shitty writing is making the trainwreck even more of a pile of rubble on the sides of rails
Faunus: people with physical animal traits to certain extent. Perfectly reasonable
People who can turn into birds: how could you do that? What is wrong with you!
Ross Kuehl-Martin WHAT DO YOU DO WITH A DRUNKEN SAILOR EARLY IN THE MORNING
Ross Kuehl-Martin WHAT DO YOU DO WITH A DRUNKEN SAILOR EARLY IN THE MORNING
@@danielpatterson1576 WE SHAVE HIS BELLY WITH A RUSTY RAZOR EARLY IN THE MORNING
@@danielpatterson1576 PUT HIM IN BED WITH THE CAPTAIN'S DAUGHTER. PUT HIM IN BED WITH THE CAPTAIN'S DAUGHTER. EARLY IN THE MORNING.
"IT'S JUST A CARTOOOON!"
"When it comes to plot holes we like to keep it vague, and just focus on the plot." I'm hurting. Like I am losing all interest in RWBY if this is how they treat their show. "It's a cartoon lets write whatever we want! Oh Monty's ideas? Retcon them! This is our show now!" Any writer with self-respect would know better.
Damn I might need some green pills to heal me up. Throw me some senzu beans my way please?
RubyTV *break half of my last Senzu bean and give it to you* hopefully this will heal you for the time being
Agt.BADASS perfect because we need more to save those who is hurt by one of the 10 top Cartoonnnnns betrayals known as RWBY😭🤧
Agt.BADASS just a broken heart :(
Ragna The Bloodedge but will it be enough when the next season comes?
Looking back at Volume 1, I can't believe Weiss is the character I would be the least annoyed by. She didn't even do anything amazing this volume, she just managed to be the least stupid.
...Wait, who was Summer Rose?
Meh, must not have been important.
Taiyang’s backup ho
The sad thing is they could have actually done something with Summer. You know how Yang and Weiss have that talk together where Weiss brings up her horrible family. Maybe they could have had that be a moment of realization for yang that she’s better off than most because she at least had a good mom even if they weren’t related. It’s not the best but it was groundwork that could have been better than what they had.
I honestly feel like shipping plays a major role in why the writers won't allow Yang to harbor too much resentment towards Blake. They don't want to risk pissing off the lowkey crazy Bumblebee shippers that they had a part in creating. I'm not against creators indulging or acknowledging ships. However, the extent that RT has done so has (imo) altered how legitimate the RWBY fanbase takes Bumblebee, which has affected how the characters are written. ANYWAY, great video as always.
I agree, however Miles and Kerry could have made this a gradual progression, where at first Yang holds the resentment when she see's Blake, then during the time of volume 6 (or even 7 if they do it well time wise) some event occurs and Blake redeems her trust with Yang, and this would set them back to being team RWBY again. As oppose to the two minutes we got from the end of vol 5.
Okay, I really like Blake and Yang as two very close friends (I dislike the ship tho), and I don't want them to hate each other, but having an arguement, yelling at each, bringing up serious themes and questions, and other stuff like that could have been a great way, to do character development to both of them, and eventually strenghten their friendship. I think even the non-crazy bumblebee fans would have been okay with that.
Haha. How ya feel about the ship now? After the final for season 6? Cause its literally a plot point and its ruined the show for me.
@@mostlyjovial6177 It ruined it for me too don't worry :)
@@Kyrande_Foxfairy I never saw a reason to ship Blake and Yang, even after 8 volumes now. Honestly, any push for the ship seems more like pandering and they want to get as many minority groups lumped in as one as possible. That and they have to drop the BlackSun they had been building for 6 volumes and retcon both Blake and Yang, imo.
Honestly, Yang calling Raven her mom and not even acknowledging her “supermom” when talking to Raven is legitimately infuriating to me. Yang’s Character was just getting good when she lost her arm, and then Volume 5 came along with that bullshit about Yang and Raven arguing but she again, Doesnt think or talk about the true woman who cared and raised her
I’m with you. Every time they do this I feel like they are spitting in the face of adopted children and blended family. I’m adopted but I love my mother more than my birth mom. My birth mom is practically a stranger.
@@shayla106 This explains that some Adoptive parents are MORE kind and caring than biological parents
I feel like, if I was gonna script doctor Yang's character, I'd make her themes revolve around concepts of found family and personal responsibility. I think Yang's motivation to become a huntress should've been to catch up to Raven, right from the start. and this could've tied in with whatever happened to Summer Rose. maybe Raven knows something. maybe Raven did something. maybe it's all speculation though, and Yang honestly doesn't know the truth of it all. Qrow knows a little more than he'll say, but he's cryptic about it because he doesn't want to misrepresent information that is incomplete, even for him. we could've had an honest to god mystery on our hands, and Yang could've been in a complicated spot, caught between love and blood. she is Raven's bio daughter, but Summer raised her, and if Raven had anything to do with Summer's demise, Yang knows who she'd side with. but she can't figure out any of this until she's properly trained as a huntress. and even beyond that... following in the footsteps of someone like Summer is appealing to her. Yang wants to be protective of people who need help... she's felt helpless before, and she wants to make sure that others never feel that way.
this would make Yang seem humble... willing to admit that until she is properly trained, she won't be fully prepared for what she ultimately wants to do. it gives Yang's character more focus. and all of this information could be drip fed to the viewer, so that even the truth about what Yang is really motivated by is a bit of a mystery. she's got her fun happy personality on the surface, but you'd get the sense that there's more to her than she lets on. and she wouldn't necessarily want to drag Ruby into any of this with her... she learned in her younger years that she's capable of endangering Ruby if she brings her along, and then gets in over her head. I honestly would've liked it if Ruby was actually a bit too young to attend Beacon at the start of the series, but followed Yang there anyway, in part because she was so committed to being near her sister and doing what Yang was doing. she'd get in by sheer force of talent, and then Yang would have reason to be protective of Ruby, because Ruby might be following her into more than she bargained for anyway.
and I feel like, if Blake was tweaked just a little, she and Yang could have a much deeper connection. I'm imagining a version of Blake who escaped the White Fang, but maybe Adam specifically is still looking for her because he is enraged at both her personal and professional betrayal of him. maybe Blake went to Beacon and hid her faunus identity for protection... what better place to hide than in the midst of a bunch of trained, professional warriors? at this point, Blake wouldn't be a strong fighter, and she'd have major trust issues, beyond just being quiet or shy. Yang could be the relentlessly sociable friend that brings Blake out of her shell. which would be a much more complex thing in this case, because Blake is withdrawing from people for some pretty serious reasons at this point. Blake doesn't want to like or trust anyone... she wants to lay low and keep people at arms length. but Yang would reach out to her through sheer charisma, to the point where Blake actually kind of uses her as a social crutch, in order to get to know the other members of what would become team RWBY.
by the time the fall of Beacon happens, Yang and Blake should've shared things with each other about themselves that nobody else has been entrusted with. Blake will know about Yang's mission to find out about the fate of her mom, and Yang willl have some idea of the darkness in Blake's backstory... though Blake may still find it difficult to talk about everything. Yang is definitely the first to know that Blake is a faunus. and at this point, both of them should solidly be able to admit, in private, to only themselves, that they each have a crush on the other. if bumblebee is happening, it should solidly happen. the ship has to feel intentional before it stands a chance of being good.
over the course of the first three seasons, Blake should've built up some amount of confidence, both in her team, and her fighting abilities. when Adam finds her during the fall of Beacon, she should still be afraid of him, but maybe she has the courage to try and fight back when he threatens others, instead of just running away to save herself. at this point however, he is still stronger than her. and it's right when Blake is in a tight spot, and about to get seriously hurt, that Yang jumps in to defend her, and loses her arm. this creates a bigger impact for both characters, because in an instant, Blake goes from feeling confident enough to try and fight Adam, to completely crushed by the realization that she caused someone she cares about to get hurt. it all feels like a mistake... getting close to people, making them care about her, thinking she could be capable of holding her own... it sends her spiraling into negativity. and for Yang, there's the shock of losing her arm, paired with the knowledge of everything Blake has gone through, and all the progress she's made, and how it all might dissolve because of this event.
after determining that Yang will receive medical attention, Blake leaves. she doesn't have a plan at this point, and ends up trying to camp out alone in the wilderness, fighting grim that nearly kill her on a regular basis, as a way to punish herself with isolation and physically unsafe conditions. meanwhile, Yang does have PTSD, but is trying to push herself past it too quickly, so she can go find Blake. she watched Blake go from this 100% withdrawn, meek seeming person, to someone who was just starting to develop some self worth... and Yang knows that it was because she had grown close to Blake, to the point where Blake had put her trust in Yang. Yang feels like she betrayed that trust by letting Blake get hurt, and she's worried that Blake will go back to being closed off, and never give her trust to another person again. this would allow Yang to remain active in the story due to a sense of urgency, and fit with her "mom friend" role that started when she was a kid. she was trying to fill in for her mother when Ruby was little, and now she can't shake the habit of trying to take everyone else's burdens onto her own shoulders. all while also visibly struggling with her trauma. she's not allowing herself to heal enough before she gets back out there... both Yang and Blake would be in self destructive states at this point in time, and in both cases, it's due to guilt over not being strong enough. it would also make it obvious that the two of them miss each other for good reasons, need each other's support, and want to see each other again, but are each harboring guilt over the way things turned out, and so they are apprehensive about their next meeting. their struggles at this point in the story would also function as a way for them to reasonably become stronger, so that whenever they face Adam again, it is feasible that they'd do better against him in a fight.
at this point it would also be interesting to see Yang get pulled into something involving Raven, because it really would come at the worst possible time... when Yang is already sidetracked with wanting to find Blake, and trying to process her very new trauma. finding a lead on Raven at that point, when Yang feels just about the least prepared that she's ever felt, would really be more of a curse than a blessing.
but yeah... having a strong base for Yang's character like this would allow her to function more easily as the heart of the team... and it'd make the narratives of the members of RWBY feel more connected, even when the team spends a season apart.
The "it's just a cartoon" is actually a hell of a lot worse than people think. Remember, RWBY is Monty's baby. It's a show he put a shit ton of passion, love, and dedication to see realized. For Barbara to simply refer to a show with this much passion behind it as just a cartoon is spitting on the memory of Monty. You are saying a show your dead friend loves to his core doesn't matter and isn't worth any thought behind it? That it's just some shallow piece of media designed to do nothing but be silly and fun?
I think she and the rest of crwby secretly didn't like Monty
@@garretstevens742ah hell that's make even more worse. If I have a series I don't want to have friends like them. They are the worst people. Very disrespectful mfs.
I was there when Barb said it's just a cartooooon. They had an opening for that question (where did jaune get the metal for his upgrade when Pyrrha got Thanosed) they could've said he salvaged her shield that Cinder threw away earlier in the fight (but I'm sure they forgot about that detail.) Or they could've fessed up and said we wanted a dramatic looking death and an sentimental upgrade for Jaune and hoped no one would ask lol
Honestly, if I were them, I would have said uh.. let me get back to you on that, with a hand wave of spare parts.
I had always assumed it was her shield and circlet.
HyenaHarlie uh... a wizard did it
My response to them would have been "you did nothing more than copy Krillin's death to Freeza in Dragonball Z, and even then, you failed to provide the narrative support that would have made such a moment actually BE solid. And then you have her friends melt down what is literally what is left of her to upgrade Jaune's gear? You have no respect for the characters you create, or in your case, inherited. You basically treated a character that YOU billed as "Main" as nothing more than spare parts for the others. Quite frankly, if you, the writers, show that you do not care whatsoever about the characters you create, then I don't care about the story you want to tell with them. Good day to you."
2097Pyros I can't think of anything on the top of my head and don't necessarily disagree with you but it isn't very reminiscent of Krillin's death. It wasn't something with a lasting scar for the main cast just a catalyst for Goku's transformation. In fact, Krillin's FIRST death has more beats in common with the beats in RWBY
At this point I just hope that Weiss isn't botched. She's the only good character left out of the main four and therefore she's become one of my favorites. Which is ironic of me, considering I used to hate her.
BUT!
You know they will... Eventually...
They need to fire Miles and Kerry and replace them with someone who knows what they are doing.
too late at this point
Frostbite Digital oh she will be
Frostbite Digital Volume 6 is Atlas Territory. Hoo boy...
They butchered her enough this Volume tho. They made her look like an imbecile who knew just to Summon things. She literally forgot all the other things she can do with her Glyphs
I was HIGHLY upset when Yang and Blake saw each other. Like Yang, you lost an ARM trying to help her and she left you. Regardless of what Weiss had to say, you must still have some anger towards her. So instead of just staring blankly at her, you could glare at her, yell at her, I would've even been happy with you just blatantly ignoring her all together, like come on.
Sorry, I know this is a year late, but... when Blake pops up and Yang stares at her before running into the vault... what if Yang saw Adam instead?
I know that, technically, Yang seeing Adam and running away would fly in the face of her 'I won't run' speech she gives later to Raven, but it would play into the PTSD arc they had for her. She could see the guy who lost her arm, and just decide to 'nope' the heck out of there. Could even have Ruby call out for her, telling her not to go without them, but Yang doesn't care. The guy that one-shot her is right out there, and she can't deal with him at that point. It would say a lot when she'd much rather face two maidens and her deadbeat mom alone than try to take on the guy that mutilated her.
What do you guys think? Could this have worked?
They do get into a fight in that warehouse.
@@johnking9943absolutely it would’ve been a great moment for the character making her feel like a REAL person
@@SagaTheFunniest Thank you for your feedback. :)
She should've just decked Blake in the face, that'd be so satisfying
I swear, the only reason I’m sticking with RWBY is because I can’t leave a story without knowing how it ends. I may not be as enthusiastic about watching it anymore, but at least I know where things are being developed poorly as far as characters and story goes
Just like Bleach, Jesus was that hard to keep reading every week.
Saaaaame. Rwby was something special to me in the first volumes. Not perfect, but special as it had a lot of amazing potential so I feel like I'm abandoning it if I stop. I just prey and prey and prey that they improve their writing and do better as time progresses. Like they got great VA's jumping on board and it's a very pretty show now, but fuck man they need to retrace their steps, fix the narrative, and actually remember details that they put effort into making
Literally me reading the last two arcs of Fairy Tail
@@ednacole7148 SAME. Hell, Fairy Tail might be worse then Rwby, which I didn't even think that was possible
rsheed123 Yeah, pretty much. I read doujins that had better plot than Avatar and Alvarez Empire combined, and this is coming from someone who,despite everything that happened, still loves FT. The first arcs were amazing, but after Tartaros (which I consider the last acceptable FT arc, except some cringey moments),everything went downhill
Could you imagine if the creator's of Avatar the last airbender or Oda from One Piece gave the same disgusting excuse. Honestly the fans put in a hell of a lot more thought and care into the characters than the writers such wasted potential it's sad.
And this is why fanfic writers are better than Miles and Kerry, they care about the characters. As writers of the show this is just sad.
Arno Wisp- At this point, the statement "Fanfics of this show are better than the show", is less of an opinion and more of an undeniable fact. There are Fanfic writers who have dedicated a lot of time and effort to make a decent story while the actual creators can't even remember which character did what anymore.
Finbar Brolly And they admitted it themselves ( the writers) that they forget stuff since one of them has ADHD.
Finbar Brolly In fact I know a good fanfic story. Its a rather unique take on one of several RWBY fanfic subgenres. Check it out and do give the author a heads up.
m.fanfiction.net/s/12783735/1/RWBY-A-Grimm-fate
DarkSonic180 it’s not
My fave scene of Volume 5 was Yang calling Raven out on her bullshit, but I was frusturated that Yang just accepted Blake back. At the end of Volume 3, we saw that Blake leaving Yang when she needed her most was pretty much the breaking point for Yang to spiral into depression. Idk, maybe Yang was just caught up in the moment and we'll see them trying to mend their relationship in Volume 6?
Not a Bizarre JoJo I feel like they will only now go back and make Yang vs Blake a thing in season 6...purely because us viewers called them out on that BS.
+DrJayNation
Not because we called them out on it because they were planning it look at the song all that maters and its all there.
I really, really, REALLY hope that Yang accepting Blake was only due to the fact that the end of the fight was a bad time to be pissed at her. If Miles and Kerry really are stepping it up next season, then I hope Yang and Blake are more distant to each other to show that Yang is still hurt from what Blake did.
You ever seen Gurren Laggan.? I wanted Yang to mirror a scene Kamina did. To break the life or death funk his blood brother was crumbling. He punched him in the face with brotherly love.
They said in the commentary that Team RWBY is gonna fight in Volume 6.
I don't even watch RWBY, and I'm watching all your videos about it. I feel like it's helped me appreciate characters from other shows I love.
Did not expect to see you here
Me: omg another negative RWBY video? Why does everyone hate this show so much
Also me: wow I agree 100%
Now, I could’ve specified when I agreed but I have to keep it vague so plot holes can’t come up
Leah Necole dude that seriously pissed me off more than anything. So like they have all these mentions of the moon and it clearly means something significant Monty said it himself it has some meaning but he's gone now so maybe that idea is gone too. In the trailers they show the moon in different phases to display lapse of time. In the show we see the moon a lot. So here's me thinking I wonder if theres a direct timeline involved, maybe you can figure out how long it takes the moon to rotate and see when exactly villains did shit in the show and use that for predictions. No it's just fucking random. We just draw from a hat which phase the moon is going to be for this scene. We have this whole oh Cinder met with Adam at (surprise!) The moment before Blake's trailer but we don't want to get too specific. We will for this moment but we can't define EVERYTHING because it's too hard.
+Leah Necole Nobody hates this show (figuratively speaking). They make videos like this because they LIKED the show and are disappointed with the direction it's gone. If they hated it then they wouldn't devote time and energy to discussing it.
Nobody really hates RWBY.
I like RWBY too, but I also agreed that this guy makes some good arguments.
My impression is most haters wanted Adam to be the main villain for a much longer time and/or turn good or become an antihero. My impression is that is their chief motive for acting the show.
Remember all the hype around Yang finally meeting Raven? A core part of her characters history and motivation? It was all just so underwhelming and steamrolled over for plot reasons
Oh, and we can’t have her hate Blake man - it’s a cartooon. We need more group shots
Alisha Shah after hearing all that matters I'm a bit worried about them😐
I think they'll be on the road to recovery, Yang still cares about Blake deep down but Blake messed up. According to the song (which is so weird to say), the conflict will likely be a part of some more volumes before they probably make up. It's just the ending of V5 just tried to push for a resolution that felt unwanted
@@alishashah842 ... Not to be a dick, because obviously this is 2 years out of date, but holy crap this comment aged poorly.
Pepperidge Farm remembers. Hell, I still feel that moment in the end of Volume 2 where it seemed like Yang met Raven was better than some of what we got, as if Raven contacted Yang in her dreams and just that stare down by Yang, even with what Raven said to her. Now why couldn't _THAT_ have been continued? Seriously, it is such a cool concept to do that!
That convention scene literally just killed it. It just killed RWBY for me. I honestly couldn't get back into it, it had good stuff but the obvious downgrading of writing and their attitudes about it just pretty much ended whatever appreciation I have for RWBY. Like I know Barbara's sense of humor with her god awful puns and blunt jokes but seriously doing that to a fan asking a simple question in front of thousands and then just laugh at them? Obviously the pinned comment didn't appreciate that at all, I mean who would? I am just disgusted.
At this point, I don't care for the show now. It pains me, I looked forward to it in excitement since I seen the first season trailers. I love the show despite the rough edges it had before getting to volume 4. I cried when Monty died and had respect for the team continuing his work. His last work on Earth that is slowly diminishing in quality because Miles and Kerry just doesn't seem to care. And what does so fucking hilarious all the time Barb says? "It's just a cartooooonnn"
You're a better fan than I am, Vexed. I'll still look forward to more of your videos about it.
GreggRulezOk i agree with you about that conventiom scene, i was beyond shocked to hear "its just a cartOOOOOOn" like what? What happened to the passion project rwby used to be :/
Same there goes even more of my respect for RWBY, why should anyone care when they don't care,put much effort and have a rabid fandom that flip out at criticism+eats up anything.
Really it shouldn't have taken this long (volume 6) for them to start questioning Ozpin's motives when Raven should have been an immediate red flag.
If not Raven, then Hazel.
Pyrrhas crown is literally shown falling to the ground when she dies. I was obvious to me from the start where Jaune go that metal on his shield.
@@michaelflores9220 ...Still seems like a massive dick move to relegate Phyrra's death to be of absolutely no plot consequence besides just being scrapped by Jaune for spare parts. Like we're probably never going back to Beacon andRuby's silver eyes are almost never relevant. Phyrra died for no other reason than to give Ruby and Jaune upgrades.
"We don't wanna worry about dates because that be revealing plot holes!" Not if you know how to write!
And every writer should care about the dates/timeline. Hell, even fanfic and newbie writers know this!
Yes, like monogatari
RWBY becomes more of a decent show if you turn your brain off and avoid all its flaws, but unfortunately I can't. RIP Summer
Does it? In what aspect?
Chicken Bacon TRY HARDER. It'll work eventually trust me.
How? I would understand that f you said it about the first seasons because at least they had the cool action scenes to fall back on and the charming day to day lives, but I don't see how RWBY season 5, which is pretty much entirely plot oriented, gets better if you "turn your brain off". As far as I can tell it'd still be boring and the character arcs still wouldn't be satisfying.
Anything that's only good if you turn your brain off is no good at all. After all, your brain is the bit which determines how decent a story is, no?
Any show is good if you turn your brain off
I was extremely disappointed with Yang finally meeting Raven after ALL THOSE YEARS WITHOUT HER! Like really, if she truly had abandonment issues, Yang would have addressed Raven by first name. If my mom was gone for years of my life, I would call her by her first name or mother with some venom to that word.
That's why I was so mad when Yang kept calling her mom, and then got angry when she didnt ask Raven why she left her. She was right there, Yang! Ask her! Another thing, Yang meeting her mom down in the vault area. Would have been an epic battle between the two (with Yang's metal arm) to fight out their emotions; especially Yang who would tell her this is her breaking away from Raven for good or say how Summer was her true mom and not Raven.
All these opportunities and not one was hit!
Now for the Blake and Yang part. I wish their was more friendship chemistry between these two just like how there is some with Yang and Weiss. But no, we are getting this crap because shipping fans will eat this pair up. Uuuuuugh! They barely even got to friend level, and dont say they did. They just opened up to each other, but other than that, they are just teammates checking if the other is alright. No hangouts. No bonding past the fee fee trips. No nothing. Burely (not barely, burely) anything is there.
I will be so pissed if Yang doesn't have a chance to slap or punch Blake's face with her metal arm in vol 6 for leaving her knowing damn well she has abandonment issues, or at least shout at her at some point. Give me something, Kerry and Miles!
Yeah it kind of reminds me of Hunter x Hunter except Gon actually called is father by his first name instead of calling him Dad
So in Summary
Ruby is a Dull protagonist who is now relegated to being nothing but the mascot for the show
Blake is a shitty kitty.
Yang is just Barbra Dunkleman going through an identity crisis.
and Weiss is Best Girl.
Hmmm, Somethings wrong here. XD
Only Weiss is worth a damn. From Miss Ice Queen to Best Girl of the show.
Weiss best girl? That’s a funny way to say Speed Weagon.
Now imagine if they actually killed the best girl when they attempted to. XD
I would have dropped the show completely.
I don't mean she's the best girl as in best Waifu I mean the best girl as in she's the only tolerable and who's character is worth a damn in the show.
I can't believe he said that about timelines and continuity. I can't believe those words left his face. What the hell kind of writer thinks something like that?!
A shitty one?
He thinks keeping dates vague prevents plot holes, when you'd think it'd be what CAUSES them.
But they, it's a CARTOOOOON, so why should anyone care? They certainly don't.
I always kinda facepalm when people try to use the "its a cartoon argument" to justify the story not making sense. I don't know why but its like the writers of the show and people who work on it are admitting that they aren't able take criticism of the story or their admitting that they are just to incompetent to make a cohesive story.
It works in some cases depending on the context. Like if its complete comedy/parody kinda of thing sure. Since the 4th wall kinda break in those things pretty often. But when its a story to be taken seriously just in cartoon form its not ok. I mean there some stuff that's fine with its a cartoon like how people can move/fight they way they do or doesn't die after falling from a 10 floor building. But not ok with like major plot events.
Zehao- Agreed. In something like Ed, Edd n Eddy, where breaking the laws of physics and reality itself is part of the comedy, you don't need to really question things like, "How does Eddy survive a tree falling on top of him?"
In a show where you are trying to show that actions have serious consequences and attention needs to be paid of continuity purposes, you actually have to explain why things happened or you just look like you're pulling things out of your ass.
I can agree to that if the cartoon in question is like very jokey and doesn't take it self to seriously then I can understand using that argument. But if your trying to tell a good story and your taking the story seriously then try to use that argument its just kinda sad. I mean a personally favorite cartoon of mine Avatar the Last Airbender was a great story with some hit or miss episodes sprinkled in. Overall the story was great and so were the characters you could tell they were trying to tell a good story.
Also if you take like say Teen Titans. There some super goofy 4th wall breaking stuff in there. But there are also extremely serious and somber moments too. Not like a show can't do both if its done properly. Like no one would write off a series moment in Teen Titans as its a cartoon because the serious moment get serious treatment.
Justin Depina I got three reasons why that excuse is beyond bullshit. Batman TAS, Justice league, Avatar. Three of the best CARTOONS ever made. They would not fuck up this hard. They werent just fun and entertaining but also compelling stories. They have no excuse, they know it and so they cover their asses because its the only way they escape from criticism. You cant ask for us to give a shit about a character with complex issues, make fanfics/memes about her, by your fucking merch and then praise you when you do nothing with them. Fuck you RT
Fans: "Yang is best girl xD"
Vexed Viewer: **spits out drink**
PS. You were speaking some heavy facts. Geez.
Christian Mastronardi
No Weiss is Best Girl and Yang is second
Weiss is best bitch. Yang is best girl.
FYTE MEH!
The only reason people like Yang is cause they think she's gay for Blake. Even if she is (which I really don't want to get into that garbage) being gay does not make you an interesting character. I'm gay and I can say for a fact I'm boring as shit.
I used to like Yang until I thought about her as a character. Now I realise she's unfathomably fucking arrogant, with anger issues and constantly throwing tantrums. Better than Blake, but that's not exactly difficult when the Faunus girl's a perfect example of how to _not_ write a character.
@@Lord_Numpty I like yang but I FUCKING DESPISE BUMBLEBEE I’d rather see her with mercury than the scripted mess that is known as Blake and even though Yang is my favorite character Weiss has the best development which is why I think she’s best girl but honestly the team did Monty, the fans, and the characters real dirty after the end of volume three.
hey remember when Jaune told pyrrha that going to fight a maiden is just suicidal and dumb?
but now yang is going down to fight TWO maidens (who are godlike mind you) and a professional bandit and nobody seems to care.....
yang has become dumber and more suicidal than pyrrha... and her team, especially her sister don't give a rats ass
such development...
a great video friend, I wonder if you'll do a video on the characters on team JNPR, since you did it to team RWBY aside from Weiss.
Yeah it seems to be a trend with this shows.... characters getting dumb and DUMBER. I will stick with a masterpiece like Avatar: The Last Air bender and gladly skip this crap show. Vol 3-5 were thrash.
guess yang knew she was plot armor protected even than not sure if she was going to help raven what she thought she could do let alone if she fought raven
Stand there and just watch I suppose. Character development in this show utterly horrible.
Khosef Tadros Yes it’s stupid Ruby and Nore expected her to stop two maidens and an experienced huntress when Pyrrha, the best fighter among them, died fighting ONE. Seriously what was their thought process there? Did they think Cinder the sadist wouldn’t kill a one armed girl?
Ryan Carson I know right
I mean fuck OZPIN the headmaster couldn't hold off cinder for fucking 5 minutes
pyrrha used to be the dumbest one but holy shit Yang just jumped all the way to the top...
Recurring theme in this volume: one character obsessing over another and then "not caring" come confrontation. You have Yang suddenly "not caring" about Raven beyond using her for fast transport. Then there's Blake who "doesn't care" about Adam, the dude she's been obsessing over for years. Even Weiss "doesn't care" about Winter because Weiss forgot all about her sister once she got to Mistral. Weiss didn't even know she'd run into the others; the whole point was to track Winter down. Apparently the writers forgot this, even though their relationship was a major part of the White trailer. Edit: and then there's Cinder suddenly not caring about Ruby.
NO MA'AM yeah it seems like despite having the same writers, and I could be wrong on this I do apologize, the consistency behind it is like they kept getting different writers for each volume after 2, and its honestly just sad considering that there are other writers out there that could at least keep RWBY more consistent than these guys right now.
Yeah, that's exactly what it's like. It reminds me of old style 26+ episode per year TV shows with a few core writers, script cleaners, and directors and a bunch of stringers to fill in the gaps. And those shows weren't serials so continuity errors weren't fatal. I believe "lore keepers" are common for modern serials. I'll bet something like Game of Thrones has more than one. RWBY desperately needs something like this, along with QA in general.
Well, the explaination of the characters not caring is that it's a parallel that the writers stopped caring as well.
This isn´t really new. There´s also Yang suddenly not caring about being on the same team as Ruby, there´s Weiss suddenly not caring about Blake being a former White Fang member… although I wouldn´t say Weiss just forgot about her sister. She did get told by Vernal that Winter wasn´t in Mistral anymore and she gives a little frown when she sees Ruby and Yang hug (probably cause she felt left out and wanted her sister there with her)
NO MA'AM funny enough I was going to say that rooster teeth was basically making RWBY into a copy of game of thrones, mainly due to becoming more dialogue heavy than action, except RWBYs writing for dialogue was rather crappy and turning to that area is not a good idea as the focus and dare I say any passion that they still have for the show is meant more in the action and fighting, rather than the dialogue.
As a yang fan, fully agree. I would like to blame logic of the characters, but its literally the writing which makes the characters plot machines instead of characters.
I was very annoyed with this whole drama with her and Blake. It literally should have been her being pissed because a friend she lost an arm trying to save ran away. But no, this volume wanted to make it that Yang was mad because her girlfriend ran off. I won't deny they had a good bonding scene, but to now say that's enough for them to be an item is fucking ridiculous.
I wouldn’t mind the ship so much if it wasn’t so glaringly obvious that the writers are doing this just to pander to the rabid shippers of the fanbase. I wouldn’t have any problem with Blake and Yang being a couple if it was written well but it’s just not. We go from Yang calling Blake a “lost cause” upon their first meeting to them suddenly being besties in the Emerald Forest to then suddenly having Yang care for her so much that she’s willing to give an arm for her. All of this happens with the audience barely getting to see any of their relationship progression. Because of this it’s pretty hard for me to actually give a fuck about their relationship since it feels so hollow.
Personally, I think having Yang and Weiss get together would make a lot more sense than Blake and Yang, but that’s just me.
Or! Hear me out on this...they don't actually need to have teammates dating 8D
Only reason Ren and Nora work is because they actually have history together, so even if it's off screen, there's no denying the fact they've known each other since they were little kids
yang and blake are canonically not lesbians, they're literally both straight, especially blake who didn't even react to ilia's confession, what's going to happen is that when, not if, WHEN blake and yang get with guys, there will be a hall of anal devastation 3, just like when 1 and 2 happened (naruto getting with hinata instead of sakura and ichigo choosing orihime rather than getting with rukia)
thedarklordx I was hoping for Ichigo and Rukia haha, after rewatching the anime recently (my fiancée never saw it before, now she's a huge UlqiHime shipper haha) it seems like they had a lot more chemistry than I remembered. Especially the filler (I know what I said!) where Ichigo was losing his powers. But thankfully I didn't cry about it
The Exiled Draco expect the bumblebees shippers are acting like assholes in the fandom so no am not supporting this ship its better became for them be best friends then lovers
Summer didn’t left, she went on mission and passed away for doing so (correct me if I’m wrong.) That has to be the cruelest thing that yang has to say. Especially if she isn’t your real mother.
Well, she has always shown sociopath traits since the beginning, such as destroying the bar and slaughtering everyone when Junior genuinely didn't know, or in the Vytal Tourney, going to the extreme of SHOOTING Mercury instead of just calmly moving out of the way (since the fight was over at that point) like a normal human being, illusion or not.
Oh, and you're correct. Summer did die, and Yang was being cruel, whether she (or the writers) were aware of it or not.
ShiningLeviathan's Sea of Bullshit to be fair for the bar scene, she did wreck the place but it was never implicated that she killed anyone, just look at Junior who got punched so hard in the face he flew out of a 2-story building yet is still fine and dandy so there’s no real reason to think that any of the grunts got killed
RAVEN: "How dare you give me the gift of voluntary transfiguration granting flight and enhanced vision!"
"It's a cartooooooon!"
Wrong, Barbie. It's a product, a product that your co-workers produce and sell as blu-ray discs and merchandise. If the product is flawed, then its value diminishes. No one has any reason to buy a product with a worthless value. So, insulting the the people, who help finance your paycheck, was not the smartest idea; all things considered.
funkwolf1
Lol, "Barbie" XD
But yeah, I hate when people say the classic cartoon excuse like really? Are you really going to insult the people that are putting money into your pockets? Are you financially suicidal or something?!
well its selling very poorly the sales have plummeted if that makes u feel better
well shes jewish and what do jews care about well cash the jews are all about their paychecks
What you expect from a dumb blond
Marc Thomas- Even being a blonde myself, I can't help but smile at this comment.
What irks me about Yang calling Raven mom is the part when she was talking to Weiss about Tai abandoning her when she was younger and to empathize how she felt about that by not calling Tai dad. The problem here is that it’s inconsistent with how she treats Raven. Tai at the very least from what I can tell came back and was father to Yang and Ruby but Raven left her and never came back and yet she still calls her mom when she should call her Raven like she called her father Tai. It just sends mixed messages about family when double standards like this are involved. Yang’s arc in Vol. 5 should’ve been about learning her mother was terrible and disown Raven as her mother while saying Summer was her real mom because she actually was a mother to her when she was younger. It would’ve been a satisfying conclusion to her talk down of Raven by simply not calling her mom to further twist the knife in.
I like how everyone are trying to make fanfictions that fix the plot holes or completely overhaul the story. Because RWBY is that bad, that fans are trying to fix the plot for the official writers, it's sad. I recommend that you watch fixing rwby on TH-cam, it shows how decent rwby's story could be if there was effort.
iron mask of hell there are Good fanfiction stories that rewrite rwby in a much better way such as "scars part one" by donesses and "re:bound"
Khosef Tadros Hey buddy if the fanfictions are better than the show was the show ever really that good or was it decent action show with above average character designs.
Rafael Medina it's definitely not not a well written show at all
however if you're talking about in general, it doesn't necessarily mean the show is bad, it means it could be better
for instance if a show is good on its own but there's a fanfiction that is written better than the show that simply means the show can be better than it is now
hope that answers your question friend :)
Khosef Tadros IDK man i'm a firm believer that RWBY was never good and that at best it was always a 5/10
Kaiser Shounen To play devil's advocate fans have hindsight. Meaning when everything is done the fans have the ability to tell right from wrong because they can look back at a finished product and say what to keep,take out, and change.
The lack of consistent logic in this show baffles me.
Between Ruby failing as a main character, Blake being a terrible 'do as I say not as I do' whiner/coward, Yang being written so poorly inconsistent and Weiss having some good material but not enough focus, I can see why Team RWBY falls flat as the main cast.
People can say what they want about Team JNPR, but I cared more about them in Volume 5 than RWBY. Becuase at least when they did something my brain would go 'makes sense' then '....wat?'.
How would you have written it? Adam turning into an antihero? Salem not being introduced until volume eight? Yang and Blake not getting into any fight in that warehouse and just getting along like nothing ever happened between them?
@@michaelflores9220 what he means that everything that was set up in volume 4 throw volume 6 was poorly executed, it really could have been better in a lot of ways, either you don´t understand that or don´t want to accept it.
@@jonathanoquendo9237 Third option: I disagree.
@@michaelflores9220 you can like whatever you want that´s not the point , but don´t deny what it´s obvious, if you´re going to defend this volume try to say at least what for you could have been better, it´s obvious that you are on the defensive.
@@jonathanoquendo9237 i don't care that Weiss and Adam did'nt have a personal fight. Most viewers don't or at least dont' make huge deal of it.
"Yeah I need to end this video soon b4 I say something I'm gonna regret" good call XD
Yeah.
Something you are going to regret? But, But It's just a Cartooooonnn!
Damn, you actually tricked me into thinking you were done lol.
No no, the PTSD thing with Yang pissed me off, too. Why bother introducing that part of her personality of it leads nowhere?
angelswolf RWBY in a nutshell
It's she forgot the way she push her so called sister ruby off.
angelswolf
Agreed
Her hand was still shaking when she met Adam again, that isn't exactly nowhere. what were you expecting? Her crying in front of a therapist? What were you hoping for, specifically?
Fox Mcloud
I was expecting a panic attack against Adam
The writers can't even convey what they're thinking. What is the evil intent with bird/curse thing? Obviously, it's a lie coaxed by Raven... but why does everyone react so negatively to it? They don't even specify what the characters are thinking at that moment. (Besides magic doesn't exist.)
Myx I don't even fucking understand what they're saying about the damn birds. Can you explain?
Kushrada they actually did straight-up admit on the vol 5 commentary they fucked up on the bird thing.
Kushrada explained it pretty well.
But the whole fiasco is two parter for me:
1) Raven's statement in ch. 6. "...I know that magic is real and I can prove it. You said *Tai* told you all about my Semblance. Well, I doubt *he* ever told you what Oz did to my brother and me."
This statement is just throwing shade onto Tai, honestly. Raven makes it sound like it was Tai's responsibility to inform Yang of Ozpin's abilities (i mean, it wasn't for most of Yang's life but Tai also did let his daughters go off to the same combat school and allowed them to get suck into Ozpin's scheme, which Tai is very much aware of so he SHOULD get shade).
I never got the impression it was a bad thing, just kind of sketch and just more proof Tai was with holding even more information about team STRQ and Oz. Raven was hoping to coax Yang a bit more but eh, it just didn't work.
2) The scene in Alone Together. It's...just a mess. Yang's question should not have been why, it should have been a how. Miles and Kerry threw in some unnecessary drama. And ya'know what? Qrow was pretty quick to dismiss the issue, that bothered me. He seemed pretty irritated. But no, everyone just accept it and moves on. There needed to be more questions beyond bird powers.
god I hate vol5. It was an incoherent mess. Miles and Kerry don't know what they are implying when they write.
the “magic” thing is so stupid. dust, aura and semblance are all magic systems and ruby literally calls dust a form of magic in v4e8.
Myx because shut up.Birds are super evil dude.They peck you and shit,therefore there satans spawn by ravens account.
i love how someone finally says how its somehow not shady Ozpin is possessing as child and basically taking him into a war zone yet somehow Yang finds it suspicious that her mom and Uncle can turn into Bird's, Like cool ability's? what the hell is wrong with you Ozpin? Child soldiers? oh you know that's normal
RWBY characters are appealing in their design but not in their character. It's a real shame.
Ah, My favorite kind of Female characters in RWBY showing all of the Female and none of the Character *Sarcasm*
Weiss has character
GSDA I don’t like the alfalfa hair that Yang Tai and raven have
well miles and kerry are idiots but thats all this show has for it interesting and cool designs that are wasted remember the white fang leader that adam killed yeh she was nicely designed but miles and kerry said fuck it lets axe her off
GSDA Maybe because it used to be a fun action flick before it tried to be serious.
You might be the ONLY person I have seen to touch on the whole "turned them into birds" thing! The first time I saw that I was like "................HUH?! oh wait that is a BAD thing? turning into and back from a bird at will??? Okay I can't be the only that feels like that is a "so what?" moment right?" Looks at forums, boards, etc sees everyone and their mom agree that it is so "messed up" Leaving me with a WTF?....... look!
And don't get me started on the Cinder and Raven fight! What the hell took Yang so long to get down there??? I would LOVE to believe she had a none shown moment when she got down their looks out the elevator and went "OH FUCK THAT!....Gonna wait and see how this plays out...."
Well, this is the same show that made Hazel lose his shit because his sister died, you know, a huntsman who was trained to fight monsters and likely die. So what does he do? Join the very person responsible for controlling the Grim, the very person likely to be responsible for Gretchen's death...yeah, that made sense. The whole reveal of Hazel's motivation was DAF. Sure, imagine Pirrah's sisters joining Salem and Cinder because, oh, she wanted to be a huntsman and died "like every other huntsman in history" (Roman Torchwich) I really hope there's more to it than just that, like maybe Ozpin actually killed Gretchen, that would put a dark spin on events, but as it stands, its just stupid.
The one thing that really got me annoyed with this season was Yang constantly referring to Raven as "mom", she hadn't earned that right and I wish she would have called her Raven to express that sense of distance and resentment at the woman who gave birth to her. Though I do think the talk between Weiss and Yang was one of the best things in the whole series, I think Yang accepting Blake into that hug so easily was bullshit. I have a feeling they're going to brush over the whole anxiety/awkwardness/resentment of Blake's return the same way they dealt with Yang's PTSD, sweep it under the rug.
I don't want the same RWBY team as before the split. This is a team that's been damaged, emotionally challenged to confront their fears and in Weiss and Yang's case, face their abandonment. I want that sense of uncertainty in an uncertain world to continue, I want Ozpin to be called out for taking control of Oscar against his will at the end of the fight, I want serious tension between Yang and Blake, I want the fear of returning to her home to nearly cripple Weiss emotionally and I want Yang to return the favor and talk to her, I want the old Adam back, not this foaming at the mouth lunatic we got in volume 5, I want Hazel to have a legitimate reason to hate Ozpin, not simply being a "my sister did what she wanted to do and she got killed and its your fault" bullshit.
There's a lot of holes in the story that need to be fixed and I really worry that the writers may not be able to pull it off. But here's hoping
I don't think you are the only one.
And the fact that its such a big deal when they were barely phased by gods and maidens
FeyWinter Fox Yeah the characters have a problem with Ozpin giving the Branwen twins the useful and life saving ability to change into birds but don’t have a problem with Ozpin possessing little boys. I’m glad that the writers chose that over them talking about you know what will happen to Oscar due to the possession thing.
FeyWinter Fox for real. i was waiting for the subsequent episode to explain what the drawback is, like maybe their lifespan shortens when they use it for WHATEVER reason, maybe after a certain point they'll permanently become birds, maybe they have a closet craving for worms n bugs now, SOMETHING but no its treated as fucked up all on its own. Ohno a pretty cool but standard superpower to turn into a bird in a world full of people with other super powers AND AN ENTIRE RACE OF PEOPLE BORN WITH ANIMAL ATTRIBUTES, how evil of you Ozpin.... Fuck M&K have some serious explaining to do in V6 on a lot of stuff
4:56 "And it was all off-screen?"
We're all watching the same show here, right? Off-screen is RWBY's middle name.
I swear CRWBY would've made Raven vs. Cinder off-screen if it wasn't for the fact that RWBY was hitting the climax and it would have nothing else to show. Even if that specific fight was below average, all things considered.
If you watched or read the director Commentary CRWBY entire budget went into Raven and Cinders fight scenes and nothing else and they are proud of it.
You want to know something ironic? Rwby chibi has better writing and character development then the whole actual series put together.
Rainbow Cheese94 no
TheSilver Savage yes.
what character development?
Yes, what character development? It's been five volumes for god's sake.
Hahaha thats just sad, but im not surprised since A LOT of these badly written "serious shows" always work better as comedies, like with Carnival phantasm to Fate and Tsukihime,
Sadly, RWBY was always dependent on style over substance since the very beginning. And without Monty, M&K have to focus more on the story instead of the fight scenes.
Speaking as someone who's currently constructing his own fantasy world, Worldbuilding is a LOT of work. And you need to think very carefully about each piece of lore you insert. Because if even one aspect of the world doesn't make sense, the whole thing will fall apart.
They don’t have to, they have people capable of creating amazing fight choreography. And they’ve gone out of their way to make the story worse with the macguffins railroading it
TheInfernityZero Oh I feel you on the world building bud. Took me 2 and a half weeks to finish making the world, races, and languages for my story
I may be late but I agree, I wrote one part of a book about a fantasy world and it’s extremely hard. I not only had to think about characters but try and build worlds,powers,and other shit and I still need to work on it but I have school.
i hate many things about rwby these days. blake not getting slapped at the end is very high on the list right now.
just give me two weeks and access to the scripts, i'd get all this shit sorted out.
yup yet sun got slapped twice
Blake doesn't need to be slapped!
She should get punched square in the face.........
Twice
THANK YOU
I receive the "don´t question the creators" argument a lot, and that it´s just a stupid way to avoid any valid criticism.
you can make a FNDM excuse bingo
The scene with Raven could have been much better if it was revealed that Raven *wanted* to take Yang with her, but Qrow wouldn't allow it, not wanting Taiyang's flesh and blood to be raised as a bandit. Raven could've said that she only left Taiyang because the tribe's last leader(maybe even her and Qrow's father) had just died and Raven was the only one qualified to lead.
EDIT: Also, I definitely agree that Yang should've interacted with Adam. If Yang killed him, then that would be absolutely amazing for further character development. Especially if Yang had Adam beaten and unarmed(ha) already.
I'm really hoping for some of really fucked up reason why Raven left and didn't take Yang, beyond the whole ""bandit"" thing. I want there to be some shred of humanity in Raven to make her not such an anti-sue.
EDIT: Also, that be super shitty if Qrow influenced his sister to leave her babby when in Family and More the Merrier Qrow was obviously upset that she left STRQ. That wouldn't make much since, but again, this is RWBY.
It would also be shitty if Qrow let Raven take Yang away from her sister and father to raise in a den of creepy murderers.
The world of Remnant is a shitty place. You can't win. You either die in the Kingdoms under Ozpin's illusions or die in a creepy den of bandits. Also you kinda have to remember Qrow was over the whole being a bandit thing by the time Yang was born so it wouldn't surprise me if he pushed his new found altruist beliefs on Raven.
I don't think Raven as a bandit and raising a child is that shitty, she's just some thug trying to survive in a world of endless trash that she's first hand experienced. In fact, if she raised Yang herself that would have given us something to empathize with. Also, I'm just going to assume that Raven isn't the first bandit in her world to birth a child, lol (remember that Mistral was supposed to have a really seedy underbelly that we never got to see?). But fuck it, that's trotting into world building territory and we all know Miles and Kerry are just terrible at that.
Something that still baffles me is that she left her family to be responsible for a whole camp of bandits while she didn't choose to stay and be responsible for one child. Miles and Kerry can't stare me in the face and tell me rising a single child is harder than protecting some tribe of bandits.
Wut the fuck is going on in this show?
It is not that raising a child in a bandit camp is particularly shitty but that before then the three of them (lol, I messed up my time earlier. Ruby was not born yet unless Taiyang is a slut) lived on a peaceful island making good money with their skills as Huntsmen. She had a chance to give her daughter a nice life in a stable home with the man she presumably loved. Lol, maybe Raven knew that Yang would grow up to be like her and best her to become the new woman of the house.
Also, are we sure that Qrow _isn’t_ a super shitty person? Beyond the alcoholism, it seems he is just the same as Raven: loyal to his family and his secretive group. Raven lets her thugs molest children in gas stations and Qrow lets an immortal being use children as pawns. Raven and Qrow were born into the bandit tribe, right? Whatever happen to their parents? I hope nothing unnecessarily edgy involving rapey bandits.
I suddenly do remember Mistral existing beyond a hotel, a bar, and a foyer. Boy, if only that had ever done anything. Remember how varied the Kingdom of Mistral is supposed to be? Remember that Pyrrha’s family lives in the Greek part? Remember that Juan melted down her possessions for armor trim, as if Ruby would get to keep Weiss’ shit if she got glassed?
Technically it is possible that Raven teleported back constantly to run the tribe. Why they would want a 17-year-old to run the tribe is beyond me, or why they wanted Raven back in the first place after she did not come back like she was supposed to. Not a single bandit wanted to take her place as leader? They did fine without Qrow.
Bad writing is going on with the show. Bad writing and the creator having passed on, leaving overworked, grief-stricken amateurs to scramble a plot together. But that is for Volume 3. After that, it is purely incompetence and terrible decision-making.
BlotlessScribe tbh my theory involves the tribe having been much cooler and family oriented in the past, with Raven and Qrow's parent running it. Then maybe the twins get considered soft after being sent to brain to basically infiltrate/learn how to better kill huntsmen. Cue possible mutiny. Seems to me a genuine threat on the lives of her team/family to either rejoin or watch them die is a good reason to leave.
then again K&m Have set up raven thus far to be too edgy/distant to properly portray a back story where the audience can empathize with her. ..
"Catwoman."
XD Wasn't expecting that that. Hahaha!
Catwoman always did leave batman high dry.
I don't even watch this show but I really enjoy your videos because they always have good narrative criticism that I feel applies to all forms of storytelling. Plus, you don't beat around the bush with what you have to say, dude. Nice work.
thanks
The fact that Yang just miraculously got over her DEEP TRAUMA and became a super cool badass overnight is honestly an injustice. If you don't want to write a character with PTSD (which was the issue, from what I heard), don't put your characters in situations where someone would end up with it. She had such potential for a fantastic character arc where she actually became the first character in the series to show any semblance of character development (which probably would have been the only good thing about season 5 anyway) and it was all just thrown away.
Her hand is still shaking when she meets Adam again. That does'nt sound like "getting over it".
The "Ruby's mom left too" bit has always bothered me as well. RUBY'S mom?! Didn't she raise you too? LEFT?! The woman died! Why would you say "she left" as if she just went out to get milk for 13 years and chose not to come back?
She comes off as delusional.
so what you mean to tell me is that Barbra hypes up RWBY on twitter so much, but laughs off an actual good question about the show?? "iTs a cArtOon" says the same women who goes on twitter hyping up this volume to be best story in literature.
it's unbelievable.
Well, it's not a book, so literature would probably be the wrong thing to call it.
I got three reasons why that comment is beyond bullshit. Batman TAS, Justice league, Avatar. Three of the best CARTOONS ever made. They would not fuck up this hard. They have no excuse. You cant ask for us to give a shit about a character with complex issues, make fanfics/memes about her, by your fucking merch and then praise you when you do nothing with them. Fuck you RT
it's so satisfying watching all ur rwby videos bro XD thnks
It really isn’t.
When I first got into RWBY, I hated Yang because her character suffered no consequences. She can throw tantrums about vain little things like her hair and no one cares, this was worse for her as it was with any other character. I thought this would change when she lost against Neo and used that as a stepping stone to get better and control herself more but it's swept under the rug. I can't enjoy that fight because she didn't learn anything.
Then she 'crippled' Mercury, I was happy to see her face the music and get some conflict over one of the main character's recklessness. It's not handled well at all besides the fact that it caused mistrust in Blake but that's dealt with, barely under a minute. I gave up after this, I watched too many anime to know that the MC's don't suffer consequences and they win all the time, until.....
*Adam cuts off Yang's arm*
I was ecstatic when this happened. Finally Yang has to face reality and learn that she can't always punch her way out of everything and V4 was doing great with it. When we got the sparring scene, I could love it or hate it because it brings the issues I had with Yang to light and we got a nice moment with Tai. The bad parts of it, I had to wait and see what happened since I knew she could have been lying about her confidence. That is until V5....
I agree with you that V5 screwed her over. I mean I know Shay D Mann was a creep but when she punched him, it jeopardized her development for me. She went straight to violence but since she was shaken from it, I tried to give her a chance until that stupid Bandit scene! She kicks all the asses of the supposed Bandits that were hyped up so much and just gets shaky hands! Yang should have lost and be traumatized from having to fight Bandits after months on bed rest, depression and sparring with Daddy! Most of them used swords, like the man who dismembered her. But explain to me how a glass being broken can trigger her but not lethal weapons?!
Unrelated but still an idea but if I had a chance to rewrite this scene, I would have Yang be able to fight off the brawlers but when she has to face the bandits with swords, I would have her lose her steam and falter. Then when they got her down have Vernal arrive, see Yang and then take her to Raven. It would still be a great fight but with the context making sense! It would show the 'strength' of the Bandits, realistically have Yang still dealing with PTSD beyond hand shaking and show her how big the world is.
Everything after this I agree with you, but I actually did like the Yang and Raven conflict.
Yang is a hit and miss character, they have good ideas with her but fail to execute them well or not at all.
Good video man.
Rixarts
I agree with you. Yang is a character I dislike because she’s unbearable. She’s like a small child. Always wanting attention because she has no personality and she knows it. The only way she can stay relevant is by acting the way she does. She, Blake and Ruby are all terrible characters
I wouldn't say she has no personality but I agree with everything else.
Also in the yellow trailer, I was surprised that Yang didn't get some type of punishment or fines for sexually harrassing a man and willingly destroying a night club. And the fans still say she's the best character ever and has little to no flaws. 🤔
I'm saying this around 8:30, but I always thought that the reason why she never actually called Summer her mom despite the fact that for all intents and purposes she was her mom, is because after Summer died and she found out that Raven was her birth mother, she felt that she was the person that deserved to grieve the least, since Summer technically is only her step mother. And she then wanted to track down Raven as a way of grieving in her own way after the passing of the person she called "Mommy". By focusing on Raven, she didn't focus on the death of Summer, which allowed her to be the pillar of Strength that her family needed. Searching for Raven was a coping mechanism of sorts.
Of course, this was what I thought. I know realize I'm giving the writers too much credit. I was really looking forward to Yang and Raven having a confrontation with Yang going "No. You're not my Mom. You are just to person who gave birth to me. Summer Rose is my Mother." Natrually, this could still be the case, but it's unlikely at this point.
It's only a cartoon when hard work and careful planning are involved .
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Why did you even make this video? IT'S A CAAAARRRRTOOOOONN. But seriously, this was great man.
This is a very interesting theory. I never thought that Yang actually has been through trouble in her life, and I respect that. On the other hand, you are right about authors. They should think more when they're writing a script, otherwise the audience will just get disgusted easily.
Gregory Grice Where's the theory?
Anthony Interiano he explained the troubles Yang has been through, and how it affected her.
This girl went from my favorite character to my second least favorite character, from a brave and hot headed yet loving and fun sister to bland and boring LGBTQ representation. Oh how I wish Monty was here
I thought when Yang got mad at Blake they were setting up for an epic fight between the two where Yang would release her anger theyd talk and open up...and then forgive her ya know shonen style who wouldnt want to see that?! But no everything has to be easy god damn the ships ahhhhhh!
Maybe the writers could course correct by having them at least fight in a short.
I would have LOVED to see them duke it out before collapsing and apologizing. But nope, gotta appeal to the shippers.
One of the biggest disappointments that happened in volume 5 was that Yang and Adam didn't have a rematch.
Or Blake and Adam. He just Naruto-ran away after Blake cheated with her invincibility frames.
Personally, I was hoping the next time Adam was encountered by Yang it would have gone like this scene from Alpha Protocol.
th-cam.com/video/E06702u2iig/w-d-xo.html
CN What I'm Saiyan? What's even worse is how weak he was shown in volume 5. In volume 3 he was toying with Blake and one shot Yang. And the rematch was just Blake hitting him on the head once. That makes no sense!
Unless it was some convoluted plan to lull them into a false sense of security so that he could ambush and kill Blake, which honestly would be the best damn thing to happen in the series since volume 3's start.
Gonna say it right here. Fuck BB shippers. They're ruining the show. Yang should've hated Blake's guts, since Blake's given her literally no reason to forgive.
Also...Edgy Badass is a weakling cliche...DESPITE EVERYTHING ELSE HE'S DONE! WTF!
"Volume 5 is a whole nother level of this show"
Yeah, the 7th Level of Hell. Placing it right above the 8th Level of Hell.
Nocktuk Daze
Wait until it hits the 9th level.
RWBY is like the Abyss from Made in Abyss
Ascending in the first layer (V1) gives you slight lightheadedness, ascending in the second (V2) results in heavy nausea and vomiting, ascending in the third (V3) makes hallucinations and vomiting
And going up in the 4th layer (V4) results in bleeding out of every orifice, going up in the 5th (V5) results in a loss of all senses
Watching Volume 6 will result in the loss of our humanity and Volume 7 will result in death xD
Considering all the retconning and how the 9th circle is reserved for the traitors, I'd say they're already there.
I like to imagine Lucifer just spat out Judas, Brutus, and Cassius just so he could eat up Miles, Kerry, and Barbara.
Not really.
Dragonage2ftw
Considering that V5 accomplished nothing, Volume 6 and beyond have nothing to build off of unless the writers pull something out of their ass. The villains aren't a threat, they're going to Atlas, which Teams RWBY and JNR are irrelevant in and can't have any feasible growth in, and the only way to give Salem a victory is to make Watts an OP hacker, which he clearly isn't. Add to the fact that Atlas isa militarized country under a lockdown....Salem has no shot at a victory, here. So why are they going?
I'm not seeing how the show having no feasible place to go from here isn't raising any red flags for...ANYONE who isn't me...
I’m so mad summer isn’t mentioned in the volume as much as I would’ve liked. It’s almost like they forgot about her character. As sad as it is it is very likely it was down to the shipping fgs. I actually really like Raven but I hate how Yang acts like she knows her (like you mentioned) also side note what the fuck did they do with Adam?!
DistantHana Raven abandoned her family. Yang had to deal with that as a kid once she found out. Dont go making excuses for a terrible mother.
And where am I making excuses? I like Raven’s character not what she did. And yes as you said ‘Raven abandoned her family’ so why would Yang say to Raven ‘How could you?’ In regards to the spring maiden when she has already experienced the ‘ultimate’ betrayal by her? Also read my comment again. I’m not making excuses
Anthony Interiano sleep
What did they do with Adam? They ruined it. Like all the other characters starting from V4 and completely destroyed them in V5.
Yes Soul6 that’s exactly what they did! He used to be so fricking cool too (imo) but clearly RWBY can’t have any good characters anymore (with a few expectations of course) so they went and had to screw over his entire fucking character! V3 Adam would’ve fucked up V5 Blake with that stupid punch of hers, wouldn’t have hesitated to slice her neck off...my god did they ruin him....
You did it again, Vexed! I'll admit Barb's acting at first was beyond god-awful but I give her props from improving (somewhat). Though we all know that the script is crappy as all hell, she's doing what she can. She's below average at best (it's get tolerable after a while unlike Raven's and Cinder's VAs who make my ears bleed from the lack of emotional range, overacting, and sheer cringiness from what they say...) I'm not denying that RWBY has fantastic VAs when it comes to the characters. Jaune is...annoyingly one of them. Miles should honestly stick with just being a VA and hire someone else to write. He's really good, great even! (though I hate Jaune with a passion because it seems the show is revolving around him too much which doesn't give the other characters time to grow), but if I look at Team RWBY, I can't really say they have great VA's. Weiss (a character they did well, not right has improved somewhat but there are many areas where she comes off as bland), Blake (a frustrating cat-astrophe but she had some good vocal moments), Yang (eehhhhhhh...tolerable...) and Ruby (the worst protagonist ever written but there were areas where she sounded adorable.)
Another thing they did good with Yang was her PTSD arc. That was actually handled better than I was anticipating. She became a shell of the proud, tough, fiery Yang we grew accustomed too. She's now feeling sorry for herself. Personally, I believe it was one of Barb's/Yang's best scenes. Yang's frustrated, upset and hurt that Blake just up and left after Yang risked her life and lost an arm. I resonated well with that scene because I know first hand what it's like to be at such a low-point wallowing in self-pity as well as failure and when people give you a resolution (in her case, an arm), it feels like adding insult to injury. Any person who has/had depression knows how jarring and insulting it is to have someone else come up and tell them to 'get over it'. The depressed person needs to let out their negativity through fear, sadness, anger etc. (Everyone is different.) I personally went through sadness and anger because I had people (family and friends) to gently push them towards such emotions, until I felt emotionally less strained and I got up again. Yang clung to any and every reason to justify being miserable, to justify staying down. She was confronted, however, by her father, Oobleck and Peter about it. She needed to do some soul-searching until she found the strength to dust herself off and finally, get up. These little scenes (I have to admit) were golden scenes and I respect the writers for showing that. They could have done a better job to be frank, by thoroughly exploring that avenue BUT I like to give credit where credit is due. I honestly did enjoy seeing that side of Yang.
But of course, all good things eventually come to an end.
What pissed me off the most what not only how EASY AND CONVENIENT it was for Yang to find her mother (Qrow says go here, Yang does and poof! Yang finds Raven! And yes, I know they retconned that scene in V2, I think where Raven saved Yang from Neo and said, "Yang, we have alot to talk about." but it doesn't change from the fact that finding Raven was contrived as all hell) but that scene where Yang and Raven had their 'confrontation' over the Relic. I swear, I can't watch that scene without wanting to yell in anger. What's worse is that V5 was overall REALLY REALLY BAD. I'm not sure how I would fix it. But Yang's PTSD arc I personally would explore more. Because Raven and Adam have the same colour scheme, similar fighting style and Grimm masks, I would personally play into that. I would have Yang being confronted time and time again with her fear of Adam, which would build up to that moment where Yang would finally have the strength (emotionally, physically and mentally) to confront Adam himself. But the whole plot around the Maidens and the Relics...have made things more complicated. I said it before, their ideas though good, aren't refined. Personally, I think it would be too soon if Yang confronted Adam in this volume. I feel if her PTSD arc was fully fleshed out and we see her struggle with it here, it would be so satisfying next volume to see her truly battle Adam. Of course, this is all my own opinion.
It's just sad that the character are beloved purely for their designs. They aren't really characters because they lack the intricacies of what MAKES a good character. And Yang...even though I'm not a huge fan of hers, to see her wanting to find her mother at all costs to suddenly not giving a shit just makes me sigh and facepalm. I'm seriously glad that I'm no longer a blind die-hard fan because I see RWBY for what it *truly* is - a bad show disguised as a good one, relying on the other shell (the visual quality) than the inner intricate details which add layers of TRUE quality. It's actually saddening.
Can you imagine Oda doing this to One Piece? Or Imagine Avatar: The Last Airbender or Berserk being this way? Each of them give quality and complexity! Gahhhhh.... You can have fun moments in a story but you can also have dark elements. I didn't like the Legend of Korra at all BUT even I can admit that the dark elements it explored was fantastic. I don't find it to be on the same level with the Aang's story but Korra had its moments. Even with Monty around, RWBY was *not* perfect but still, I believed hard in it's potential, it's destiny for greatness, as cliched as it sounds.
And it hurts, as a writer and a fan to see RWBY decline so damn quickly.
Anyway, Vexed.
I want to thank you for doing these videos, and shedding light on the truth of RWBY.
Truly, you're the greatest and I salute you.
Jodia.
Jodia-Jess Clayton Ruby, Weiss, and Yang all have great VAs.
The reason Yang stopped caring was cause she realised her mom never cared about her. Its justified. Dont go trying to justify parental abandonment here.
And Weiss is easily the best character and a great one.
@AnthonyInteriano With all due respect, everything I said was *MY OPINION.* My opinion and no one elses. For me, Team RWBY VAs have their good moments and bad. I'm not being biased, I'm being honest. Out of Team RWBY, I agree with you, Weiss is the one I like because they wrote her character well, not right. *WELL.* There have been moments where the voice-acting was good as well as dreadful. I'm being objective. As for Yang's character, the so-called 'writers' did not do her character justice which seems to be a running theme with throughout RWBY. Things that were established in earlier seasons, especially some character traits, tend to come and go i.e. Yang's drive to find and talk to her mother that was established and then it vanished, and that does not make for a good character. I could go on about all the characters, the ones I like and loathe. I could detail what the writers did well, what they sucked at and how they could have done a better job, but I won't. If you don't like it, that is not my problem. Just as you are entitled to your own opinion on the show, I am entitled to mine. I stated how I felt as both a fan and a critic, that's it.
Jodia-Jess Clayton I don't understand why people say that the show revolves around Jaune too much. He's my favorite character, but I think the small( in my opinion) amount of screen time he gets is perfect. He isn't the main character(Ruby) or the other three main characters the show is based off of(Weiss, Blake, and Yang). That said, where is all this Jaune screen time everyone complains about? Sure he has Jaunedice, but compared to everything else happening in seasons 1 &2, that was a small amount of time.
Ever since Pyrrha died Jaune has had (from what I remember);
That one moment in V4 Episode 1 where he gets better gear.
The part where Ruby finds him training, but no one does anything to stop this unhealthy act.
The part toward the end where he yelled at Cinder(he does look like a dumbass in this part)
The part where he saves Weiss
And that's it. So I'm confused. I'll admit he is featured a lot in Fanfiction, but that's different.
Ok that part with Thanos is funny as shit.
The writers need to take a class on character development or watch Bojack Horseman. The only way we can relate to the characters is if you make them human and humans have a natural progression and don’t instantly have things fixed with one conversation. It takes time and energy to forgive someone and to heal from trauma. Stop telling and not showing. If every character is idealized from the very beginning, we can’t grow with and relate to the characters. I loved the concept for this show when it first came out, but I’m losing interest. I didn’t even buy RWBY Vol. 4 or Vol. 5 OST like I normally do. 💔
Aneko Foxx Miles just introduces new characters instead of developing existing ones.
Some characters get a lot of screen time, but no development Ex: Asta (Annoying main character from Black Clover) Jotaro Kujo (JoJo) A basic stoic badass character with no personality what-so-ever Well, he has very little personality Guy's a total douche I prefer Joseph Sure he can be annoying sometimes, but he can also be hilarious Atleast he's not a dick to everyone like Jotaro is Then there are well developed characters like Gaara (Naruto) Goes from being batshit crazy to being an actually decent guy
Jon Wootton Just wait till part six. In part four he already matured and in part six, he is a fully fleged marine biologist.
Improvement is always nice Better than a character not developing at all like Asta
Jon Wootton Spoiler for part four and six
Jotaro is far more interesting later because of is master student with josuke and in part 6 is stoic and harsh behaviour cause him a lot of trouble communicating with is daughter
I was annoyed that Yang just accpted Blake back with open arms. now that you pointed out how she called her mom out for leaving them and how angry she got then just goes to taking blake back, it just really drives in how bad Miles and Kerry are with writing
DevilJin These two scenario"s aren't really the same at all. Raven left out of cowardice, Blake left because she believed she was putting her friends in danger.
Remember her talk with Weiss in Alone Together? That was there to give Yang some perspective on why Blake left.
that still does not excuse Blake shitty behavior, a friend lost a limb because of her and she also ran because she is a coward, she THINKS her friends are in danger because of her but if Blake never went to Beacon Academy Cinder and the White fang still would have attacked it.
She has good reason to think her friends are in danger because of her, Adam threatened to destroy everything she loved and then backed it up by going after Yang specifically. I'm not saying she made the right choice by running away and neither is the show, It was a mistake that Blake made with good intentions unlike Raven who ran away because the fight was too much for her.
How should Yang have responded? Should she have shut Blake out forever and never talk to her again regardless of the actual context?
it does not matter, she is still a coward, just because you can understand what some one did, does not automatically imply acceptance or forgiveness. Yang should still be upset with her. regardless of her intention Blake is a coward and a horrible friend for abandoning them. Adam knew who yang was, he could have gone after her after Beacon if he wanted to even if Blake was around or not. Blake is also dumb in thinking that abandoning them some how protects them when they are already targets.
Yang shouldn't have accepted Blake back so quick, it should have been something to happen over time. have Blake suffer with the repercussion of her actions. Yang can give her the cold shoulder for a while and not really want to talk to her, during fights Yang does not want or need Blakes help, since she think she is unreliable, Yang not going to depend on some one who is unreliable. she has to earn that trust back not just automatically get it soon as she shows her stupid face.
Yang has gained some perspective from her talk with Weiss as opposed to previously when for all she knew Blake had abandoned them for no reason. She hasn't necessarily forgiven her just because she doesn't try and give her the cold shoulder during their teams big reunion. They'll obviously have to talk about it again at some point but those issues will keep till later. Yang has at this point in my opinion, matured enough to take the reasons for Blakes abandonment and the fact that she ultimately did come back to help them into account when she sees her again. I'm not saying she should be forgiven outright and it's not implied that she is by the fact that Yang doesn't object to her joining in on the team RWBY group hug, just that for now given everything that's happened, They can talk about it later.
Why do I feel like I'm about to be disappointed in my favorite character?
Because Miles and Kerry are lazy hacks and Barb, who plays Yang, acted like an asshole when asked a simple question.
You're my favourite RWBY criticism youtuber and I don't like any of the other youtubers. It was very funny and entertaining to watch you try to control the Weiss and Yang scene. I Love Yang btw.
thank you
My feelings on how Yang's arc has been handled can be summed up with the following quote:
"I never asked for this."
Yep, it's official, RWBY is dead. I'm glad I dropped this shit back in volume 3. Yang is my favorite character, so seeing her the way she is now makes my heart hurt. But I would love to see her beat the shit out of Blake.
Its so sad even though moment I watched v1 til the end and knew its flawed would kill it still sad to see it turn into a mass of wasted potential
93ImagineBreaker I agree
If Bumblebee happens just to please the rabid shippers then this show will literally have become top tier garbage. I have nothing against shipping, I'm a shipper myself, but some fandoms just get out of control and everything becomes toxic.
I love Yang as a character. She's confident, upbeat, but kinda broken inside. My favourite moments with her are the more serious ones, especially the part where she's recovering. I wanted to see more of that, even though it made me wish I could teleport into Remnant just to give her a hug. The last arc, though...it pissed me off to see how much they fucked her character up. Raven is just...So bad. Just...Why?
Having the Bandits win would've been a good character development moment, and having Weiss break out to save Yang, then being subdued by Raven would have made an interesting story. Weiss might get ransomed back to Schnee, with Weiss coming back with an Atlesian army, only to find the bandits gone, and have Yang spend time in the Bandit camp (forcibly). Would've been a far more interesting story, and might have given a legitimate reason for reinforcements arriving at Haven. (Weiss and Winter coming to the rescue with Atlesian forces), while Yang breaks free from her mother's camp during the battle, joins up with RWBY...and then punches Blake in the face as soon as the battle ends. With her metal arm.
Bumblebee can die in the trash fire it is, though. Blake is probably my least favourite character in the series. She mistreats Sun, leaves her 'friends' after one of them (Yang obviously) is maimed helping her stupid ass out of a jam, and overall is just...ugh. At least she's been confirmed to have trash taste, and NOT be lesbian. (Illea flat out stated that Blake was interested in Adam, even though Blake had a hot chameleon chick wanting to get into her hot pants).
Volume 6 happened.... That is all.
Need I tell you what happened?
@@dailybugle2147They literally Called it 😭😭😭😭
At this point the only member of team rwby that hasnt been completely fucked over and has had a mostly stable character arc is weiss. Hopefully they can fix things in volume 6 with all the characters being together and having one central story.
Ben Solari I would not bet on it
Ben Solari I hope to God they don't fuck up my favourite character and the only one I even care about anymore...
2:39 to be honest i was actually happy that she lost her arm when that happened. thoughtout the volume i was getting annoyed by her cocky attitude in fights which didn't help given her OP win button semblence that allowed her to predictably win her fights for her in no unique fashion. its the semblence equivalent to the easy button. in fact the only people to beat her or given her a hard time were those who purposefully avoided the easy button which makes yang in either one of two states in a fight. either uncreatively broken or exploitativly gimmicky. i hoped that by losing her arm would grant her some humility.
It really, really upsets me that Summer Rose is "Ruby's Mom" to Yang.
At the birds part and Thats exactly what i was saying isnt having more mobility a good thing? I mean if there where draw backs like you being forced to turn into one like a werewolf then at the very least that would kinda suck but from what we've seen thats not the case as crow freely transforms so that part was really dumb
>"Mom"
It's my job to tell you.. You're disqualified.
Are you finna be taking that arm back then, Ironwood?
justførkicks she can keep it, I don't even want it back
I know them reusing animation for fights is hardly new. But there was so little actual fighting in the fight. To find out that what little fighting there was, some of it was just reused feels so cheap
7:25 Okay anyone who forgot that detail about Yang and Summers relationship, raise your hand. Now take that hand and facepalm. You have everything to be ashamed of because apparently we all collectively became as dumb as MK.
Honestly I think that Yang really should have had PTSD. Her fear could've given her a REAL challenge to overcome. Also I hate bumblebee, please don't let that be cannon...
Robert Just Robert the worst part is that she does.Its just that they decided to suddenly forget every time they write her until they suddenly remember "oh yeah,she's still scared".
Robert Just Robert She only has ptsd when it's convenient for the plot
It won't if Black Sun is still a thing
Yeah, Blake was a coward and a jerk, heck I'd honestly rather her be single or something.
*I have bad news....For both of us...*
Mmm, I still Barb’s voice acting sucks even if it has improved from god-awful to below average. At least she isn’t as bad as Raven... or Jessica Nigri.
IMHO, there are only a handful of decent VAs in RWBY and none of the members of Team RWBY are amongst them. Ozpin, Jaune (I must begrudgingly admit that Miles is a passable VA), Oscar, Oobleck, Glynda, Ironwood, Whitley, and Sun. I did not include Qrow, Salem, or Mercury because I do not think the writers have given them scenes that sufficiently allow these talented VAs (who are wasted on this show) to truly stretch their muscles.
What's your opinion on Tyrian, Ghira, or Ilia?
Wait the voices bother you or the lines?
What about Gheera? He's voiced by a professional VA.
The original cast was chosen largely because it's who was available at the time among RT employees. That's why you have literally the receptionist among them. As the show became more popular, they increasingly hired better talent.
+Blu3 Fir3 does the guy who plays Lie Ren even care? And Blake's VA is monotone, especially in RWBY Chibi!
So much potential, all lost so quickly...
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Volume 5 in one sentence.
The unknown Parade
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Lol I never realised how bad the writing is. I mean, if you try really really really hard, you can rationalize just about anything to justify why they do the things they do, but that's too much work for "just a cartoooooon." It's just bad, lazy writing. Hope season m Volume 6 addresses some of these issues! They'd be damn fools not to have an eye on your channel.
I just noticed what you said about the PTSD and when you mentioned a montage would do good for it. I did that exact same idea in one of my stories
I'm glad you pointed out the "Mom" nonsense. Because honestly, something about their encounters seemed off to me and that really helped put things into perspective.
What I've come to known, is the term "Mother" or "Father" is used for a relationship that's sometimes based off of formalities, but also on a lack of a relationship. People use "Mother" or "Father" as an underhanded insult or speak it with vinegar sometimes and it makes sense. It sounds formal, like, you don't intend to address them as anything closer except by their title.
Yang calling Raven her mom definitely felt weird. If she said Raven, that would have been more impactful or fitting. Just, calling her by her name. But at least, the term Mother would have worked more.
Nice vid!
So something like the relationship between Shinji and Gendo Ikari from Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Bleh_Bluh_Blah
I guess you could call it "Momsense", amirite? :)
Yes! Thank you for pointing that out!
Yang should have just called her mother by her name. stick the knife in and twist it
LITERALLY
unfortunately my mother and i don’t get along very well, and though she isn’t by biological mother, i don’t know anything else. but still, she’s the one who RAISED me and i call her ‘mother’ in my phone and to her face when I’m really pissed.
i didn’t even realize how little sense yang calling raven ‘mom’ was until it was pointed out in this video
Im still having thoughts about rwby. On whether or not i should watch it. Volume 6 will be my last if they can't get it together.
Soopur 6 my thoughts exactly. I think I’ll just see volume 6 to see how bad it can get or to find out who the winter maiden is. If it crosses the line and pulls some fanfiction bs. I will lmao and drop the show.
B(.Y.)BIES!! Uhh, yeah?
This is the first video I watched from you. Yang is one of my favorite characters, but, and I can’t believe I’m saying this...
You’re right.
They totally disrespected Yang’s development and ruined her recovery by skipping over her training in Vol 4. And you made a goddamn amazing point when Yang went down to the vault. That was complete bullshit that they made Yang go fight Cinder, Vernal, and Raven BY HERSELF. And I have to say that I was not a big fan of Raven and Yang’s talk in the final episode of Vol 5. I mean Yang talks like she knows Raven. She doesn’t. She really doesn’t. Plus she doesn’t know how powerful Salem is like her mom does (Oh, wait, she saw that vision near the end. Maybe that could be triggering to her in Vol 6 or something).
You have made such good points about Yang, and while her character is still in works and at various parts, I’ll still watch the show and hope that they’ll still fix everything in Vol 6.
I agree with basically all your points. Also I got really pissed when Barb said "it's just a cartoon" and when Miles said that about plotholes. Also I'm really debating if I should drop RWNY. it's really overrated and the fanbase is terrible (not all of it). The writing has gone to shit and there's really no continuity. If volume 6 is bad I'll give up cause that'll be 3 bad volumes in a row. I mean the 4th one was alright but the 5th was terrible
Why even bother keeping Yang around at this point? Her story is done and any conflict she could've had is gone. She's about as important as Nora and Ren.
*claps* I agree. Only reason why I'm still watching this show is for the villains and Weiss who continues to be best girl.
We just have to hope Adam will finish what he started in volume 3 and clean the fandom of the bumblebee cancer going on.(^～^)
L'inconnue Agreed
So a while ago in there was a massive argument in the RWBY fandom, between those that shipped Bumblebee and those that shipped Black-Sun, it went on such that people started to say things like "this is what Monty would have wanted..." and it got so bad that the voice actress for Blake came stepped in to try and calm the situation down, only to have some of these fandom shippers attacking her online (i don;t know what this entails, but she did get harassed from some fans). Pretty much that is the story i know, and that there are some people who take shipping a little too seriously.
Agt.BADASS from my pov Bumblebee and other ship take too much place for a ship it's almost a joke at this point and i'm sorry too say that but Blake and Yang shouldn't be together cause those two have 999999 reason to fight each other . Beside shippiing in general is kind of a kid thing where they are yelling "the kiss ! The kiss ! " In cercle,you know the kind of thing 9 years Old kid does . . . But most of all Bumblebee is just a joke which have gone to far , And you know what they Say about joke when they are way too long .😑
What? The villains are the worst part of the show. There’s zero depth to any of them.
I think what gets me the most rustled about this series isnt so much the plot holes and horrible writing but the attitude of the creators. They literally do not care "ITS JUST A CARTOOOOOON"
They dont even have any respect for their own shit so why should I care about their work?
LIGHTFANG02 They don’t even respect their fans. I have seen people comment to them on twitter about some MAJOR criticisms they have with the show, but the people said it in a very respectful way. And Miles would just get pissed at anyone who doesn’t like it. They cannot take any criticism at all, so the show quite possibly will not get any better unless Burnie Burns walks into their offices, and kicks their asses until they start taking it seriously.
You know something is wrong when I was so unsatisfied, I spent 2 entire hours rewriting the show in my mind
And then I spend 4 more hours writing a (partially self insert) OC..... Don't blame me, it's fun
Orchid Snow-Crystal dude, blaming you for writing Fanfics? In VV's last video, I pointed out how that helps RWBY quite a bit. Hell, if you post it tell the name and I'll read it.
Orchid Snow-Crystal ive done that before, i rewrote the naruto series so many times in my head it became a copy of the daredevil netflix show, dont ask how that happend
Rosendo mendoza you can't stop me from asking
Sounds interesting
I honestly thought Yang was gonna have an arc where people hated her for punching Mercury you overcome the fact that she was framed by emerald.
Rooster Teeth: No no it's not a anime it's a cartoon.
Me:...............What? =_=
MelodyYukimi18 Its an Anime styled cartoon
Well it’s an American anime(animated shows that act like anime)
But anime means cartoon in Japan....
So yeah... Yeah really makes sense