Polestar 4 - fighting the Macan EV without a rear window! REVIEW
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- This is our in-depth review of the Polestar 4. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and technology.
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00:00 Polestar 4 with unique design
00:56 Length, wheels, battery kWh
01:17 Acceleration FWD vs AWD
02:09 Recharging
02:35 Rear design and missing window
03:41 Rear seat experience
06:09 Cockpit and features
07:44 Camera rear-view mirror
08:35 Infotainment and interface
10:43 Steering and instruments
11:32 Mirrors, doors, trunk / boot
12:17 Frunk
12:30 Price
Spec and data:
Polestar 4
Crossover Coupe
Between Polestar 2 and 3 in size and price
No rear window (camera system), reason: new rear interior experience
4,84 m 191“ length
RWD 7.1 sec (200 kmh 112 mph)
AWD 3.8 sec (200 kmh 125 mph)
AWD version: A disconnect clutch allows the car to disengage the front electric motor when not needed, to maximize range and efficiency.
AWD version also gets adaptive suspension
20 or 22“ wheels
CD value 0.26 (Tesla Model X 0.24 so the Polestar is not super bad but clearly not leading in that aspect, however better than the Polestar 3 at 0.29)
94 kWh net battery (100 kWh gross)
Nickel-manganese-cobalt
Estimated real-world range: 500 km / 300 miles
Charging AC 22 kW / 200 kW DC
10-80 % in 30 minutes fast charging
Heat pump standard
Standard:
15.4“ touchscreen
10“ instruments
HUD
Interior animal free available with oil being replaced by recycled materials and pine oil. Animal skin still option though
Glass roof opt with electrochromic shade
Trunk 526 l / 17.7 cf
Towing 1,5 t (rwd) 2,0 t (awd)
Around 60 k USD/EUR base price
Specced Vehicle shown 84000 euros
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While I (Thomas) was doing the Macan with Lea, AJ and Michel were filming the Polestar 4. Which one do you fancy more? Compare the Macan EV right here: th-cam.com/video/J1qXh8RpaEY/w-d-xo.html
I fancy Thomas more :D Just joking
he reviewed the polestar with the same calmness as you do. great team!
highly appreciated !
Macan without a doubt. Love the interior on the Polestar though.
I configured both. Polestar 4 ended up at 860K SEK. Macan easily went up to 1200K SEK... So although I fancy the Macan more, they really arent that comparable.
Edit: Besides, although both seems really nice, if I were to spend up to 100K Euros on a car I would probably wait for the A6 e-tron anyway...
The rear window is the new headphone jack
Idk, people don't really use them, and they love reversing camera so what's the difference?
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00:00 Polestar 4 with unique design
00:56 Length, wheels, battery kWh
01:17 Acceleration FWD vs AWD
02:09 Recharging
02:35 Rear design and missing window
03:41 Rear seat experience
06:09 Cockpit and features
07:44 Camera rear-view mirror
08:35 Infotainment and interface
10:43 Steering and instruments
11:32 Mirrors, doors, trunk / boot
12:17 Frunk
12:30 Price
The illuminated logo looks crazy good. I mean there's probably nothing I need less than that, but I want it right now!
Seems like a win over Tesla
Idk if I'd take this over the Macan EV but I would take this over a Tesla Model 3 100 times out of 100
What about Tesla Model Y
@@s.d.918 that too. Tesla's are hot garbage if you take out the acceleration fun factor
@@sierrag8412Teslas also have best range and the supercharger network and are much cheaper than other cars. But for the rest they really are literal hot wheel toys, garbage quality.
Macan EV is easily the most head turning futurstic design I've seen. Plus it's interior is obviously in another universe compared to a polestar or tesla
@@user-my4xu4gf1zmaybe you should see the Lotus Eletre. It’s on another level
Good to see AJ again, thank you for the review.
Highly appreciated!
Superb video AJ !! And it's so amazing this Polestar 4 !! It's a shame that has no 800 V system :(
thanks my friend !!
I'm ok with the no rear window design but it is a little bit too wide so that it's not easy for parking. Besides that, it is really the one for me.
Its easy
Spec and data:
Polestar 4
Crossover Coupe
Between Polestar 2 and 3 in size and price
No rear window (camera system), reason: new rear interior experience
4,84 m 191“ length
RWD 7.1 sec (200 kmh 112 mph)
AWD 3.8 sec (200 kmh 125 mph)
AWD version: A disconnect clutch allows the car to disengage the front electric motor when not needed, to maximize range and efficiency.
AWD version also gets adaptive suspension
20 or 22“ wheels
CD value 0.26 (Tesla Model X 0.24 so the Polestar is not super bad but clearly not leading in that aspect, however better than the Polestar 3 at 0.29)
94 kWh net battery (100 kWh gross)
Nickel-manganese-cobalt
Estimated real-world range: 500 km / 300 miles
Charging AC 22 kW / 200 kW DC
10-80 % in 30 minutes fast charging
Heat pump standard
Standard:
15.4“ touchscreen
10“ instruments
HUD
Interior animal free available with oil being replaced by recycled materials and pine oil. Animal skin still option though
Glass roof opt with electrochromic shade
Trunk 526 l / 17.7 cf
Towing 1,5 t (rwd) 2,0 t (awd)
Around 60 k USD/EUR base price
Specced Vehicle shown 84000 euros
#Polestar #Polestar4
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Thanks Autogefuehl for providing spec of this car. One question: where is it manufactured?
China obviously. Plus the lack of rear window might be explained by the Chinese PR team of Polestar, but obviously it saves money and this must be the only true explanation.
@@p.k.7111 Thx for your reply😃
Oh, A.J. has already answered my question at 2:06😅
This should be the middle car (between 2 and 3) and a competition for Model Y. But the price suggest otherwise. If you look at the 3 and take the same options on the 4 their is only a 10000€ price difference. Don’t understand their price range, originally it would start at 42000€, now it starts at 65000€. That’s just to expensive.
The interior is completely animal free but the seat made with 100% recycle pet.
So it's not animal free! Poor pet😿
I adore this car. It's gorgeous and I'm pleasantly surprised by the interior and spaciousness
Amazing and informative video AJ. Please keep up the good work brother
Highly appreciated! Please keep supporting!
Much better steering wheel arrangement with the flash sticks in place than Tesla...
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Thomas looks different. Can’t quite my finger on it though.
Thank you AJ. Keep up the good work.
Thanks m8! 🙏
What is it with the current obsession with HUGE wheels? Every single modern car is presented with absolutely massive wheels, that are both less aero (thus reducing range), and increasing unsprung mass. No need to mention extra cost for wheels and tires as well. Smaller ones with aerocovers would not only look more decent and not so much "in-your-face", but also improve ride quality imho.
Also bigger wheels = less comfort
Exactly@@autogefuehl
Don't get me wrong; huge room in the back is impressive but I think its often overrated. How often do you see 4 tall people in a car? I'd rather have a back window and a little less (but still enough) legspace.
Yep I agree
Me, my brother and my Dad are all 2 meters tall while our mum is 1.8 m so we take all the rear space we can get.
Families and rear facing child seats. They take every bit of space there is available.
Large leg room is status in China and that's what the car is made to accommodate. Europe is not priority any more.
@@fuhrerhosty then this car is not for you, simple
They could have still add some glass in the back, looks odd AF.
You could just wrap it in Black PPF to make it look like glass
That could fix the outer looks, but it is pointless not to have it even for light to get in. Relying on a single camera looks to me like a bad decision. Plus electronic things can fail. If they made optional, the car overall looks pretty cool. But to me is a deal breaker. @@stevi7215
Great presentation! AJ. Will you review updated id4?
thanks! We ll keep u updated, there are actually more big news from VW coming up next :)
Thank you for the preview :)
Great video. Very informative.
Cheers 🙏
I drove a refrigerated transit van with no rear window for uears. You use side mirrors to change lanes not the rear view mirror
In extremely light traffic maybe but on the highway, you must check your rearview mirror especially if you want to enter the fast lane to know how fast the car behind you going
@@Mm.2112 constantly check all mirrors.
I read that polestar is almost bankrupt, if true would buying a car from them be a risk, possibly no warranty or repairs in the future?
Is the rear camera heated and does it have a washer for those of us that live in colder climates with snow, ice and heavy rain???????
I suppose not
Swedes designed this car so I suppose they thought of it. With the high placement I doubt it will become dirty, and it has a little hood to keep water away but we will see
FINALLY a volvo/polestar car with a landscape centre screen!
Let's be honest guys: in these times this is one of the freshest and most curated car designs that you can throw on your face. The proportions together with the details make great harmony. That rear end is just modern and balanced.
Now, for 84k I'd rather get a 6cyl Diesel Benz tbh 😅
Geely? Steereo?
?
@@autogefuehlit is possible that stereo is pronounced as steereo in England, however Geely is definitely pronounced ad jeely by Chinese
@@konstantinkennedy2244 Hey I'm their Chinese colleague, yes 👉Jeely 👈 is much better pronunciation.
Nice reportage AJ.
highly appreciated !
So cool! And with the added bonus of all of your collected personal data going to the CCCP!
This platform was originally designed for the Zeekr 001, take a look at that car and you will see how very similar they are
who thought no rear window was a good idea
yeah ... I mean it's a unique experience, but the question is if it is also "wow" the 2nd, 3rd and 4th time
If you've driven vans with no back windows you notice real quick it is not really necessary, but vans usually have big side mirrors.
@@Guuggel I can confirm that.
Lightyear...but they had the rear full of solar cells instead
@@Guuggel Except, for me I find it pretty necessary for my dog; who rides in the boot. This probably is the deal-breaker that means I, and many other big breed-owners, might not buy this car.
In the Polestar 2, the instrument display behind the steering wheel will show a modified view of maps/your route as you are driving. Does that feature carry over here? That is probably my most favorite QoL feature from the P2 over other vehicles.
How are you supposed to wave at the driver behind once they let you in?
I think the Head-up-Display is part of the Plus package. 🤔
Love the minimalist styling. Great video too.
thanks keep supporting us !
amazing car!
I don't see this being popular. But it's nice to see something different.
The same ZEEKR 001
Front looks like every other EV
Very true - so does the long light on the back
AJ, so happy to see you again. Its been a while since you made a video. Why is that?
Thanks m8! AJ will be back again very soon with a Renault Scenic EV review! Some viewers dont accept another moderator however I m very happy that AJ can also cover cars for us /Thomas
Interesting car - can be on my short list. I looks awesome from the front, interior - the back is a bit.....plump? Not sharp, but maybe over time ...
I just want to watch Thomas
I don't see how not having no back window increases the space inside. I tis just a metter of using a different material. The extra room you showed is because of the wheelbase.
Looks much better and fancy than the new Porsche Macan. Will trade in my Polestar 2 for it.
Lmao u need ur eyes checked. The macan EV look way more futurstic and head turning while also being sporty. Porsches interior and fit and finish is in another stratosphere then this. Plus it's driving dynamics will obviously be better
@@user-my4xu4gf1z macan looks like a ladybug witj that old looking interior. Polestar 4 is much more fancy and better looking
@@quavohuncho6156 lmao enjoy ur "polestar" 😂 😂
@@user-my4xu4gf1z Im enjoying it very much. Had it for 2,5 years 😏
I agree. Macan looks very bland
Very nice.
I'm quite conflicted on whether or not the boot can be used to transport your dog. I have a German pointing dog; who is very comfortable in the back of our Mustang Mach-E (which has a smaller boot than this one, at 407 liters). The boot of the Polestar 4 is quite bit bigger; and it is nice to see there is an opening at the height of the headrests in the back row. So that would mean daylight can reach the boot and we can still be 'connected' to our dog, occupying the car with us. On the other hand, no glass means it still is pretty confining in the back there. I'm curious to hear the thoughts of people who have experienced the car in person (and curious to see it myself).
Polestar 3?
@@quavohuncho6156 Too expensive. :)
Do you have rear passengers when you have your dog with you? Can you just put down the rear seats?
@@cypvh74 Yes, our kids. That’s why our dog rides in the boot on his cushion.
Superb design. Which the tech would follow faster.
For safety reasons we can remove back door windows, improving the door rigidity, installing cameras. We can go even more and remove windshield ad sometimes stones can brake it and heavy objects may fly through it and damage people inside. Install screen and camera. Don't tell that ideas to car manufacturers. Adding screen instead of windshield allows to apply augmented reality projected onto the same screen, night vision, so many options you can't do with a convenient glass!
If you get depressed in the second row you know why
This car is beautiful, i truly like the design.
Sick car
Love This car
Rear looks like a Volkswagen Taigo.
85k??! Wow
Aditya 🙂🙂🙂 Good tro see you :)
🙏🙏
Looks very similar to the Hiphi Z, actually, looks like it's the same car with slightly different body panels and interior.
More reviews from AJ please.
will do - thanks !!
An interesting preview, thank you.
What is really interesting is where joint owner Geely is headed. It is likely to own more of loss making Polestar now Volvo has declined further investment. It has a roughly half share in Smart with Mercedes. It has its own Zeekr. It can run all these and its other brand bets in tandem and reinforce the ones which work, especially where platforms are shared. Of the present stable the one which attracts me is Smart with reasonable prices, the best of Mercedes, and none of the worst of current Mercedes UI/UX.
As to this car I do not like it because of the no button UI/UX. I do like what it has done about sustainability.
Good assessment
If there is no rear window, why is there that strange cut out - like if you give a blind on a normal car to make it a van... does it have any function or did someone just think that it is a good design choice? 🙂
Whilst I somehow always get a kick out of Thomas saying "4K, full screen, full Length, let's go", even that didn't sway me. 😊 Looks and features alone, I'm going with the Polestar 4. I also saw Jonny Smith's Late Brake Show review of it, and he was quite impressed by it. I like it because it's just that little bit different. Of course, no driving reviews yet.
Volvo/Polestar really need to address their low rear seat bottoms. Not enough under-thigh support - even in their ICE cars, which I experienced in the XC40 and V60 CC. This has been a recurring theme from this manufacturer that is not good for taller people.
What is the Top speed?
200 km/h
very clean and sharp design! This will age well I think.
The rear trunk should be one panel, it still has a possible rear window cutout
Cannot understand the obsession with 0-60 it has no bearing in real life usage who cares
no rear window is for cost cutting. compared to let's say Porsche Panamera ( a car that doesn't cut corners ) it eliminates the glass, the defroster, the rear window wiper, removable roll up cargo cover and the power rear sunshade. if you wanted to know how EV makers can afford to put expensive batteries in their cars - that's how. by cutting every corner possible.
Love the design and proportions, but need to Shrink it down to make it more like a hot hatch, and drop the price accordingly.
I watched the Throttle House review of the Cybertruck today and after seeing how useless the rear visibility was during a rainy night (basically half the year in NL), I am very put off by the idea of relying on cameras for that type of stuff. Looks like a really nice car otherwise but I'll be looking out the back 100000x more often than I'm carrying people
Well the thing with camera rear view mirror is that if it rains hard (like in the PNW) it's gonna cover the entire camera with rain droplets and dirt, unlike traditional windshield you can just activate the wiper.
I think since it’s high up on the roof, and has shielding, it should stay pretty clear. Not sure if it has a washing unit on it.
I really like digital rear view mirrors. I think every vehicle should have it as standard equipment. For those that don't like it for all the reasons that they constantly complain about, no worries, just turn it off and make it a normal mirror. There's many times where it comes in handy. I use mine almost all the time. The lack of depth does take a little getting used to, but it definitely isn't horrible. It actually wouldn't be that difficult to make it more of a 3D image. Instead of one camera, use two for the binocular 3D vision and then have the screen with the ability to display that to provide the depth. If a normal one is standard on everything, then the 3D version can be an option.
For this Polestar without the rear window, it would be nice if the mirror was a litte bigger. There's no reason why it needs to be the size of a normal rear view mirror. It can easily be bigger to provide a bigger screen to get a broader view of the surroundings behind you.
how tf is the back 'subdued'? sure its not a Lambo Reveulto but the Polestar 4 back is damn beautiful and not at all boring
😮🤩🤩Waoww 💯👌🏻
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Weighs about the same as the Mk1 Tank. The female version. Saving the planet 6 tonnes at a time!!
223km on 85% 💀💀💀
Yup noticed that too
This is not an accurate calculation, the car hasnt been driven but was used in the studio so it calculates rather AC use than driving kilometers
No buttons? No thanks. Hate this trend of putting every control on to the tablet! It's not 'premium' it's a cost-cutting measure!
Not fussed about the back mirror camera, can't see crap out the back of most cars anymore anyway lol. I think it's great.
Exactly. Especially sedans and suvs ususally have small and useless windows so high up you can only see the sky through them anyway. Now, for wagons it is different, especially older ones, but really most people dont have those
I like the Polecat 4 😅, But I like the Porsche more 🤷♂️
In what way is the cabin space affected by not having a rear window.....
Förklara det någon ?
- This review feels, on the whole, totally uncritical
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Not full lenght 4k lessgo?!
Since when is it a feature not to have a rear window?
AJ!
Really wierd that all of you highlight the fact that it don't have a backwindow 😏
All cars that tinted, transport vehicles and has stuff in the way.
I mean charging is only 200kw…. You want to spend your whole commute afternoon in charging station I see.
I highly doubt that people who can afford the Macan EV and are interested in buying it are going to consider the Polestar 4
I 100% would.
@@fatphoca5009yea just say u can't afford the new macan ev lmao. Theres no world where this looks better or has even close to the level of fit and finish of a porsches interior. Only someone that can't afford it will say this is better
People by less by brand these days and more what individual car they like
@@autogefuehl that's not true in the US at all.
@@user-my4xu4gf1z
BYD proved can do without US to become the largest EV maker in the world. US is isolated and rest of the world will get amazing Chinese cars
Price wise, it is surely not in Macan league and surely not as cheap as Tesla Model Y Performance (its like 14k difference).
It is more versus Fisker Ocean Extreme or Ford E-mach Mustang GT
Model Y Performance in USD is currently $52,490, He said the polestar 4 as shown is $84,000...There's several other vehicles I'd currently purchase at that price point before the Polestar. I like it but it looks like a $45,000 vehicle
@@Kailaniandkiara7165that’s fine, I think it looks way better than the model y, I’ve test driven the Polestar 2, and own a model 3, got to sit in a Polestar 3 when they had one at the local gallery, and Polestar absolutely blows Tesla away for how premium the interior is, and the Polestar 2 drove so much nicer than my 3. The 3/Y has the interior of like a $25k car, and the Y looks like a $35k car, which after tax credits, is about what it goes for, which is why it’s so popular. Polestar is in a class above Tesla. By a significant measure.
That is awful. Without the rear windows the rear compartment is so dark. It's like the "Black hole of Calcutta".
Glass roof will help with darkness I think
You obviously havent talked to someone who sat in it. You loose no light because the glass roof extends further back than your head unlike other cars, and a window in a car like this is small and pretty unusable regardless.
kinda weird tha you have so many thumbs up. folk not even considering the sun roof will be blasting in far more light than any car without a sunroof + normal rear window
Recycled plastics in the interior is a very bad idea. With recycled, you have no control over the content of volatile chemicals, such as plastic softeners. These chemicals can act as endocrine disruptors or carcinogens. It's not very smart to have a tonload of materials like that in a small contained environment where you are poised to spend hours on end.
the modern materials are actually more allergy proof and resistant to abrasion. However the next step will be plant-based fibres
@@autogefuehl I am not talking about allergies and abrasion. I am talking about carcinogens and endocrine disruptors. And what I wrote is scientifically accurate. In the manufacturing process, they do not have control over what kind of chemicals were contained in the original recycled plastics.
@@autogefuehlAs long as people have been consuming liquids or solids from any form of plastic there has been warnings of the dangers, the dangers of that bottle being exposed to sunshine on a hot day. Why would people think having your entire car interior made of that material would be a great idea?
@@theunown1912 The issue is much worse than bottles on hot summer day. At the very least, if you make your plastics from scratch, you know what you put in. You can make them food safe, at least in theory. But these recycled plastics contain unknown amounts of polymer additives, such as organohalogen compounds. That said, I have no issue with automakers using recycled plastics on the exterior; but to make a significant part of the interior out of this material is pure madness.
@@vecernicek2Leather = Luxury
Leather = Life 👍
I don't get the difference between the 3 and the 4.
Welcome to our electric car - it doesn't have a thing (wow)! Much like vans don't have it.
The infotainment system is so lagged....
Where’s Thomas? 😢
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Did other reviews parallel
Will it last? - The days of treating cars, and all other manufactured objects, as throwaway products needs to come to an end.
To me, it is important to make cars that last longer and that people want to keep for 25 to 50 years. Building cars is very energy demanding. Safe, desirable cars with a long use lifespan would go a long way toward reducing pollution.
A case of form over function. Not for me.
The Porsche Macan EV looks and is lightyears ahead of this in terms of interior design and technolgy. Sure it is more expensive, too, but it is a Porsche tho.
At least this Polestar is better than a Tesla Model Y, but that is becoming easier by the day. Is that the strategy of Polestar? To offer more than Tesla but less than actual premium brands? And the price is located somewhere in the middle as well
Macan looks awfully boring and bland. This is unique both exterior and interior
There is no reason for a screen that big and I won’t buy any car without switches for immediate control of heating, etc.
Why would you need that with climate control? I have switches and after setting the temperature I rarely touch these setting.
I won't either.
You are not the target market. There are plenty of legacy design cars still available though - no need to worry.
wow.. did you see how laggy the touch screen and its menu was ... around 9:51
absolutely hate it... 2024 and you still have OS so jerky. No thank you.
3:05 "in a coupe SUV, you are always compromising either having good headline in the backseat, for the rear passengers, or trying to compromise the space to have a bigger rear window..."
One easy solution, often overlooked, don't build a coupe SUV
Most coupe SUVs are EVs. I guess the lower roof line helps cd and range?