The New 2025 Polestar 4 Is MISSING Something Every Other Car Has!
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Also, a quick correction: The Polestar 3 will be built in the US, not the 4 we're looking at here. Apologies for the error!
Removing the rear window would not matter to me as much as removing the turn signal stalk.
Amen!
Yep. For now I believe it is even better as in many sleek cars you do not see much from rear view mirror anyway (cars are not boxy like Volvo V70 used to be :) )
Eh, the lack of a rear glass doesn’t bother me as much as some. You can order a work van with no windows… I’ve driven a few Chevy Express vans with only the windshield and door glass. It takes some getting used to but it’s not a big deal. You just use your side mirrors.
Exactly.
I think a premium european car with scandinavian design and minimalism is quite different from a working van
Nahhh like I hear you but this is someone’s mom driving this who’s 5’3 and she is gonna hit stuff … put some glass in like wtf 😂
I almost aways agree with Roman but I have to say this is one time I had never thought of Polestar as something x rated but then I am an amateur astronomer. I assume when younger he spent more time in some x rated bars than I did!
You are a pretty big guy and you had a fair amount of headroom in the back so it must’ve worked
Since you asked in the video, I don’t think the Polestar 4 needs a rear windshield. I can hardly see anything in the back of my Model X anyway. I mostly look at the rear view camera. The wide angle of the camera view is great.
Pretty sleek. Couped CUVs normally look hideously bloated and raised but not so here. Ground clearance doesn't look exaggerated and Romans' height almost makes it look like a proper Sedan or liftback 😂. I think the Polestar2 would be improved with some of this updated styling.
Still waiting for something to capture the same essence as the Polestar1 tho.
The whole reason these center screens have taken over is because it's cheaper to code the controls and have them run through the screen vs. actually mass producing buttons, switches, etc. I get it, there's so many features on modern cars, it makes sense to incorporate them into a single unit. But, losing the buttons to control the most used features is a definite downside.
While cost is definitely a factor, some brands (like Tesla) also do it for design reasons. You could say the same thing about the home, back and forward button on smartphones.
@@NinaJerry I completely disagree - Tesla made the decision from a cost perspective and then designed around it. Tesla is notorious for cost-cutting and relatively cheap build quality. And, the difference between smart phones and cars is that your smart phone doesn't weigh 5000lbs and go 75mph while your trying to navigate in it.
I never bought this argument - wiring looms to every corner, electronic actuators replacing dumb switches, months of programming to open a glovebox - how can this possibly be cheaper?
@@craigm2 Because you manufacture ONE screen, and then program it to your needs. And, you can buy these screens from other manufacturers who already have the tooling done, etc. If you make a switch, you have to build the tooling for that switch. And every other switch or button you make. And then you get to do that again with any interior redesign, etc - that's where the cost comes in. The wiring would be there anyway. This is also why the F150 was such a cash cow for Ford back in the day, it'd been on the market so long the tooling costs were long paid for, once that was done their profits soared on them.
@@jaymelton2663 I think it looks aesthetically pleasing to have fewer buttons. But I like having buttons for practical reasons
Just asking. You did get the cyber truck off road software. So how is it doing comparing it to the R1? Did you try and run it through water with its mode for that. So have you takin it up the trails yet?
Gorgeous design. Hope they find a way around the tariffs. The P4 is a head turner for sure.
I’ve sat in the back of this, and the removal of the rear glass makes a big difference. It feels much more spacious for rear passengers.
Ole!!! Great video!
My only concern is how good the cleaning system is for the rear view mirror camera. I know it has one, but how good is it in actual weather? Is it heated to help in the cold/ice?
It's designed to not get dirty or obstacles being in the way. Polestar actually developes their cars partly in lapland where it is really cold. As they say, if it works there, it works anywhere :)
It needs to be foolproof.
@@krane15 Why? There are many cars and trucks on the road with no rear window.
Reserved one on day one. Happy to hear production is moving to the US, but I wonder if that means it'll be delayed. My current delivery window is Jan-Feb of next year, but I know others have a Nov-Dec window (I think it depends on your state).
p4 is moving production to south korea. p3 is south carolina
All that time spent flying to Spain to get his facts wrong.
Super innovative and cool vehicle. Rented a Polestar 2 and loved it. I won’t buy this but hope to rent it. Wonder if they are going to do hybrids again like the wild Polestar 1?
I like the heads up display
Rear glass can easily be obstructed by objects in the car including passengers so in many vehicles it's not very useful. As long as you have a rear camera no loss.
True but it will be a shock at first when getting behind the wheel and not seeing a rear window. I think they went out on a limb a bit with that decision. I could live with it.
@@hwirtwirt4500 Might need some light in the back seat, could be darker back there. Some passengers might like that...🙄
What if the camera quits working then what?
@@ivorton23 You would have to be careful until it's fixed. Box trucks, vans, and loaded pickup trucks don't have a rear view either so not really different.
I have the rear view mirror camera on my bolt. It is a great feature.
The external styling looks modern and elegant, the interior looks great too, roomy and comfortable with all the controls and displays necessary for driving.
It's so completely bland as to look out of style, could easily be a 5-year-old Tesla or even a hyundai, it's time for the pendulum to swing back towards cars with some real style, we're already seeing some cool cars come out that are breaking the mold of the same old melted bar of soap.
@@Jack_Stafford Tesla's look like they were styled by the GM Saturn design team, generic and boring. Tesla interiors look like an industrial vehicle that's build to the lowest quality standards in the industry (because they are). The Pole Star completely out classes anything Tesla builds, there is absolutely no comparison.
Looking at the Polestar's frunk, it should be enough to pack a lunch. Think a pack of crispbread, a tube of Kalles Kaviar, a container of hard-boiled eggs, an egg slicer, a pepper mill, and a good amount of dill.
Actually Polestar has been a swedish tuning company of Volvo before Volvo was purchased to Geely.
Geely acquired Volvo in 2010. Volvo acquired Polestar in 2015. Before that, Polestar was just an official racing partner. But it was Geely’s money that allowed Volvo to purchase Polestar.
@@OptimumSlinky Thank goodness Volvo was purchased by Geely, otherwise it would have ceased to exist.
Kind of like the upcoming Aptera. If you get solar deck lid, you have no rear "window". They use a camera for the rear view
I feel in love with a polestar 2 on a test drive but I wish they had a little more range. think I will wait for the Silverado EV
Guess nobody will complain about the lack of rear wiper! 😂
Nor complain about the missing glass heating element
Very many super sports cars didn't have rear windows, and of course many types of vans, you're clearly old enough to have been around and driven cars like these so no rear window shouldn't be such a big shocking deal.
I think it is a creative design to allow for more rear leg and headroom.
Exterior reminds me of the Jaguar i-Pace.
I have a 2020 Tesla MYP + FSD and my short list for 2025 will be model Y and Polstar 4.
Rivian r2 should also be on your list.
Welcome to Sweden my friend! We're in in the neighboring country atm! In Jørpeland, 🇳🇴! Absolutely love the new Polestar, the backless window & all! If I didn't love my Sapphire, I'd buy one. 😂though I love Fast anything. I get the tax on the Chinese imports, most are not targeting Polestars. Rather imports such as Seagull that start at under $10k USD w/real Range, Fast Charging etc - & before some muriKan Boob rattles off "garbage" that would be from your side of the pond. NOT the next Greatest Super Power & Why China is seen as such a "Threat". Not to mention they like Mexico have universal health, education etc. Propaganda isn't just a 🇷🇺🔨
he said he was in Spain not Sweden 😂
you mean welcome to China?
This must be one of those cars I'll never be able to afford. That's why I've never heard of it. 🤣
Polestar 4 is build in korea and polestar 3 is currently in production in the USA, only polestar 2 will get the over tax
The Polestar 4 is produced at the SEA factory of Geely in Hangzhou Bay in China.
I don’t support genocide so I won’t be purchasing any Chinese or Israeli product
In 2025 Polestar 4 will also be built in South Korea. Maybe they will also consider building it in US at the joint plant in Charleston
Polestar 4 is designed being built in Sweden Late 2024 a polestar plant is opening in S Carolina.
@@rcpmac No. The Polestar 3 will be built in South Carolina in a Volvo plant that is already built and now produces the Volvo s60. Polestar 4 is not built in Sweden and Polestar's design teams are in Sweden as well as most of the engineering while some tuning/engineering is in England specifically for the Polestar 5 and 6.
That little screen on the column just behind the steering wheel makes me think it's a gear indicator like the old cars
What gear? :D
353 km converts to 219 mi, not "about 300 miles." 😢
Thanks Roman! Of all the EV sedans I like the Polestars the most. But the prices are a bit out of my range. If history is any indicator then these will be half price in about 2-3 years.
You can't see out the back of most cars rear windows anyway, it's probably safer having a clear range of vision with the camera.
Why do engineers refuse to integrate screens into the dash/console?? Why do they have to look like a separate piece just slapped on at the last minute?!
GM is doing it right with their new designs imo
GM is doing a good job with their screen designs and layouts in the Lyriq, Blazer, and Equinox.
Polestar 4 is designed being built in Sweden Late 2024 a polestar plant is opening in S Carolina.
Polestar existed before the Chinese partnership. Polestar was a Performance brand of Volvo like AMG.
Looks very nice
Loved the car, been driving it for the past month
NACS charger?
The back not having glass is really not that big a deal actually. I have a 2023 palisade and it has the camera rear view mirror and in the year and a half that I’ve had it I have never looked back out that window 1 time. And yes I know it can get damaged or break on you and not work but then you also have the backup camera which is a different camera then the rear view mirror so chances of both breaking at the same time I just don’t think it will happen and then you should always have a good view. 🤷♂️
i would think that the back camera would get covered with snow, then you cant see.
Typically not, the cameras are tucked away. If they do get blocked by snow, it is much easier and faster to clear than a sloped rear window.
Frunk or no frunk or small frunk is just a design decision. Often automakers with smaller frunk or no frunk have decided to make a quieter cabin by packaging hvac stuff in front of the passenger firewall and not under the dash.
Not having a rear view window is the type of build thing I was expecting from Hyundai/ kia. Overall I dig the design of the car.
Back in the day youd get pulled over for dark tint because cops cant see inbyour rear window .. welp, there goes those tickets lol
At the start of video I was thinking "Is Roman is in Rome"!
Watching your finger move and the screen options does not already creeps me out.
No rear window. How is that going to work when it snows. All I can think about is a long day of skiing, and an icy dirty camera and a scary ride down the mountain. Otherwise l love it.
No issues with the glass but they could have put it on that trunk opening 🤷🏽♂️
Brother if you and Nathan would stay behind the camera, that'd be great. Best wishes FLT👏🏼🙏🏼😁
Love that it doesnt have that ridiculous lidar horn
70% of time, i really don't look at the rear windows especially drivers carrying a ton of stuff on the cargo or backseat if there are tons of heads. I get it, we can mostly drive just looking at side mirrors to look into the back. Its fine if they can sacrifice the rear windows.
I would have liked rear glass, I don't really see big reason not to have it, it probably would have looked even better with rear glass
Polestar would use recycled materials globally it's not a market thing if they sell the car in the market it will be the same materials as in all markets from a recycled material perspective. The no rear window thing isn't a problem for me similar to a cargo van in alot of ways or if you were hauling a trailer that you couldn't see through either or if you had the back of the pickup full of bails of hay so meant you only had side mirrors. Beautiful car though, will be not cheap in my market in Australia definitely in the 6-figure category that is without any tariffs as we don't have a automotive manufacturing industry. Polestar could do what others are doing and build factory in Mexico so it won't be made in China but in Mexico.
Not having to scrape ice off a full back window, only in front of the camera would be nice.
Thats a nice car 👍, I wanna ses Polestar succeed. They make excellent cars.
I'll keep my Bolt EV thank you very much. Way less money, it has a rear window and doesn't have those stupid 22" rims. Plus, I don't have to worry about the reliability issues.
This is the first polestar I like
Where in the US will this be built?
Ridgeville, South Carolina. It’s slated to start production mid-2024. It says Polestar 3 production, so I don’t know if they plan to do other models at that location. They will also build the Volvo EX-90 there too. A news article says they are exploring building additional Polestar models at South Carolina location too.
It won't be built in the USA. It'll be built in China first and then next year in South Korea. The Polestar 3 is the only Polestar so far that will be built in the USA.
What happens when it snows and the camera is covered?
Maybe it has a heater? Maybe you clear it off before driving, just a like a window? Not sure if this camera has a washer, but I’ve seen that in other vehicles.
No back window
No rear glass idea is lame. That panel filler looks worse than glass.
In about 90% of new cars you cannot look out of the rear window. With a camera you can always look out and you have a wider view. And image at nighttime, It will work so much better because it can use nightvision. I cannot se a thing out of my rear window at night. So it is not lame, it is a design and safety thing. I have seen it live in a Polestar space and you have no dead angles between the rear view camera and the side mirrors
@@michaelrasmussen6953 I'm not talking about the camera. I'm saying the car looks like crap without a window but what looks like a filler panel instead. Looks like a work van that has filler panels instead of windows.
@@michaelrasmussen6953 and really... 90%. Like you did a review of every car and you couldn't see out the rear for 9 out of 10 of them? Seems like a made up number to me. I would venture to guess it's more like 90% you can see out of just fine.
I wonder how many regulatory bodies will be like "Its nice that you have the back up camera, but you need a rear view mirror and rear window for this vehicle to be classified as safe for our roads." I get with modern cars, where you can't really see out the back much anyway, with the tiny windows, but its still a sticking point with some regulators.
There are cargo vans and other vehicles that don’t have rear windows and just get away with side mirrors.
STOP SAYING THE "T" WORD! It doesn't matter anymore.
Idk Polestar, I can think of many sexy cars that still have rear glass!
if you are going to give me a big slab of glass, please use it as a rear window not as a roof.
The C Pillar explanation is as believable as Hyundai rear deck light reasoning for the SantaFe. 🐂💩 12:58
Another walkaround? We know it doesn't have a rear window. I sat in it. That's the least interesting thing about it. But I hate these embargoes and the driving impressions are what we need now. The walkarounds have been going on for over a year.
Polestar forgot to fit the rear window!
Polestar as a name isn't necessarily Swedish. It's just a very old term for the North Star and related to Polaris. Why on earth would someone think it's naughty???
Yes. It's just a dumb joke that's become stale IMO.
P2 and C40 to a worse extent have practically no rear view anyway. No wiper either. Owning that and adding a camera mirror by default is a natural evolution. Arguably a safer solution if they insist on such limited rear glass anyway.
I wonder if there would be a reason to buy this one over the Model Y ?
Build quality, exterior styling, interior design and quality, much more ergonomic controls and display layout. Just to name a few.
@hwirtwirt4500
You are completely right.
All in favor of the Tesla and the Y is much cheaper too. 😇
There isn’t a reason to buy this over model Y.
@@BendeVette Tesla has the worst build quality and repairability in the industry, it's for cult members only.
I’d much rather have a camera there’s often things in the way peoples heads, cargo, etc. I don’t really know why they couldn’t do that shape without a piece of glass in there, but I’ll take a camera any day.
No rear glass seems like a gimmick, and would annoy me. I don’t see why they couldn’t put glass on the rear hatch instead of that metal panel. Move the gps somewhere else. Otherwise, beautiful car, but too expensive and looks cramped inside compared to model y?
What if the rear camera fails???? Then the vehicle is dangerous to drive. Why do companies insist on reinventing the wheel. to repeat Roman, "if it ain't broke, why fix it?"
5:55 - and the figures have a nice and readable fontsize compared to the tiny ID crap cause the older you get the harder it becomes to read those in a kind of middle distance.
First, I don't want to know how much 22" tires cost. Second, I don't like that it's part Chinese.
Without the rear window it’s a hard pass
You mention Tesla a lot so you’re clearly familiar with them. For the purposes of this review maybe you should have mentioned that the view in the Tesla rear view mirror is practically zero.
Actually not Swedish but Chinese undercover
No. It's Swedish. Geely Holding is a parent company like VW is a parent company but Polestar is its own brand that is heavily based in Sweden. The teams of people that are responsible for Polestars are mostly Europeans based in Sweden. Even the car it is heavily based on, the Zeekr001, contrary to what most people believe, is designed by European teams in Sweden, not China. The SEA platform's head engineer is an ex-Saab engineer from Sweden. There is some Chinese electronics in it and battery, but that's true of a lot of Western BEVs.
Ya this will be made in South Korea. Not USA. The polestar 3 is the one that will be made In usa. South Carolina to be exact
Tesla door handles? More like Jaguar i-pace!
Sorry but the explanation for the rear end makes no sense to me. Polestar, just say there's no window because you didn't want a window
I think they just being cheap not installing a back glass saving money and charging more.
Little bit of a Toyota Crown look
You could put a purse or a laptop in the front. Things you don’t want stolen.
Correct
I do the same thing.
Expensive stuff in the frunk.
I don't care it doesn't have rear glass. Don't let Polestar feed you any lines, it's totally meant for cool factor, nothing more.
Polestar isnt going to sell many in the US. Their just simply priced too high, and with EV values falling through the floor, this loaded out $70k ev will be a $50k vehicle the moment it drives off the lot. even used EV prices are cratering. buy one of these in 2 years when you can get one for $35k coming off of a lease return.
The lack of a rear glass is a gimmick. Pure concept car BS.
Volvo is also a Chinese company.
Camera goes bad, no rear visibility. No bueno.
It has Double camera for redundancy
How do you think people drive vans ?
It has 2 outside mirrors, legally you don't need the inside mirror.
@@MrPomo2 I think you do, Tesla had planned no rear view mirror on the Cybertruck but then added a tiny one late in the prototype stage.
Don't worry. It will probably go into limp home mode
Polestars have always been ugly to me and 100kwh battery is pathetic for 300 miles. Very inefficient!
I hope this no back window thing doesn’t become a trend. It’s utterly stupid
Why exactly?
Each and every van and semi doesn't have them. Utterly dangerous?
Pole starrrrrrr 😂😂😂😂😂😂 dirty lol
no rear glass is a goofy thing and not safe!
Not a wagon so competes with model 3 not the Y.
Sustainable materials. Another way of saying it's made of garbage. If it's cheaper, then who cares. But it's not, so it's literally crap.
Missing? Cruise control?