The New Polestar 3 Is Polestar's First Real Flagship
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- The 3 isn't just Polestar’s latest EV, it's arguably the most important product in the brand’s short history. The 3 is Polestar's first SUV, their new flagship, the most expensive model they will sell for a while, it has the longest range, fastest charging, and it's the first Polestar that was designed from the start to be a Polestar. It's also the model designed to take on Porsche. Yep, that’s what they say.
Sadly I can't talk about how it drives until June... but we can talk about almost everything else. So how on earth can it compete with Porsche? On paper things look pretty solid. The Macan EV is a bit smaller on the inside/outside, but the two are pretty close. Also similar in size: the Cadillac Lyriq, Mercedes EQE SUV, Acura ZDX, BMW iX, and Audi Q8 e-tron. The 3 looks a bit more like a shooting brake/wagon than the Macan, but looks can be deceiving because the interior is surprisingly roomy and it has the most clearance in this segment 8.3 inches (more in line with a Rivian R1S) and pump the standard air suspension up and you'll get 9.8 inches. That's electric G-Wagon matching.
How about power? 489 HP is standard, 517 is optional, and the rumor mill says this is just the start. Will it ever get the 884 HP system from the upcoming 5? Probably not, but expect Polestar to crank the up dial in the future. 0-60? Base model to base model, the Polestar is faster than all the competition (by a hair in some cases) save the iX.
I can’t talk driving dynamics, but I can help you connect the dots: The model we were drove had 265mm wide 22 inch tires up front, 295 in the back, and massive Brembo brakes.
Curb weight is ~300 lbs higher than the Porsche (which makes sense given the extra size and the battery that's 11% larger), but lower than the Audi, Mercedes, Acura, or Cadillac. BMW? It’s about the same… But Polestar has a trick up their sleeve: a mechanical torque vectoring rear axle that’s unique in the industry. In this segment, the only model with “real” torque vectoring is the SQ8, but it’s quite different. Audi uses twin 185 HP motors in the back, Polestar uses a single 272 HP motor with a twin-clutch torque vectoring / limited slip rear differential. This means that while the Audi can apply more power to the rear in a straight line, the Polestar can apply more yaw as it can direct 100% of the rear motor output to a single rear wheel. Think that doesn’t happen often? Think again. It’s pretty common for gas cars with torque vectoring axles to have aggressive 90/10 power splits from side to side on a winding road.
315 miles of range is below the max range Macan for now, but Polestar says a longer range single motor model is coming soon. Want the higher horsepower model? Range drops by 30-40 miles depending on your driving style. The long range is thanks to a 111 kWh battery that supports a 250 kW charge rate so DC charge times are on par with Tesla’s Model X.
How’s the interior? Most of the parts feel snazzier than the Audi, but Porsche’s switchgear and plastic trim parts feel more premium. The Mercedes and BMW are a hair nicer in some areas, but keep in mind that the Polestar is significantly less expensive than the Germans when comparably equipped. Vs the Acura and Cadillac the Polestar is solidly nicer inside. The infotainment software is more responsive than any of the German competitors, logically laid out and it’ll support CarPlay shortly after it goes on sale. The entire vehicle is OTA updatable.
We’ve been dancing around the price tag. $73,400 is where the 3 will start, that’s much, much lower than the iX and a solid discount vs the Audi and Mercedes. Porsche? The Macan starts a bit higher at $78,800 but it’s slower and smaller and options get really, really expensive. How spendy? Over $60,000 more than the 3 if you want a fully-loaded Macan Turbo EV. Yep, it’ll be faster and snazzier inside, but it’ll also cost you 60% more.
So what do you think? Is Polestar going in the right direction? The 3 is a significant step forward vs the 2 in refinement, features, range, etc. and well positioned vs the competition when you account for the pricing. Is that enough? What would you consider the closest competitor?
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I have seen one in person a couple of times at the Polestar studio at Scottsdale Fashion Square, and even sat in it, and it's drop dead gorgeous. Interestingly, both times I was there no one was looking at it, but the examples of the 2 were getting a lot of attention. Likely a matter of the 2 being available now, and with what seemed like very reasonable lease rates.
Funny! Same thing when I went to Polestar Princeton. No one was looking at the 3 but 4 couples were buzzing around the 2. That was fine cause it gave me more time to sit in the PS3. I assumed the same, that the 2 is less expensive and available now.
A lot of folks saying it’s overpriced, but I don’t know - if it drives well, seems like it could be the modern take on the Jaguar I-PACE, and that thing is phenomenal!
We have a Jaguar I-PACE EV as our daily driver. This replaced our 970 Panamera Turbo (both of which we bought used btw), a car that most ICE fans would probably agree is a pretty good daily driver in its own right. And I can honestly say the Jag is better in every single way. I don’t miss the Panamera one bit, neither does the wife. With the Jag, there’s no automatic transmission to get confused around town, never getting into a hot or cold car with preconditioning, there’s insane instant torque, the smoothness and refinement is unmatched (not only because no engine noise but also because the 1000 pound battery insulates you from road noise), the use of space is excellent (small on the outside and big on the inside because no engine), low center of gravity, naturally perfect weight distribution, being able to blow by anyone in traffic anytime, never being in the wrong gear, way more efficient, never being late because I had to stop for gas, no maintenance, quicker than most v8 family cars and more efficient than i-4 family cars, etc etc. And even though on paper the panamera was faster 0-60, in real life around town it’s not even close - the Jag would be gone before the panamera would even get into the right gear. Yes, it can be annoying on road trips - but it's not the end of the world unless you road trip all the time. It's the better car 364 days of the year, and the worse car 1 day of the year.
Having said all of that, like I said I'm an enthusiast, and we also have two sports cars (manual transmission c7 corvette stingray and an R56 Mini Cooper JCW, both of which I frequently use for road rallys and autocross), and I have no desire for either of those to be electric. The whole point of those cars is a visceral, loud, lightweight, connected experience with a manual transmission. I know there is a Boxster EV coming soon and I’m sure it’ll be great and smoke my c7 around any racetrack, but I have no interest at all, even as a current EV owner. Sports cars should be gas powered and manual IMO. So as I said, each has their purpose. I don’t see myself ever going back to gas for daily driver, and I don’t see myself ever going EV for sports cars.
My point is simple: EVs are better at some things, and gas cars are better at some things. "Taking a side" doesn't make sense, even for enthusiasts. Just acknowledge what the other is better at. EVs dont work for everyone (you need a place to charge and can't road trip all the time etc etc), but if it works in your lifestyle - try it before you knock it is all I'm saying. You might be surprised.
And like I said - just because a car is EV doesn't make it good. There are good EVs and bad ones, just like gas cars. For example, I' not a huge Tesla fan. But, the well-executed EVs are, in my opinion, the best daily drivers, if they fit into your lifestyle.
...and this is coming from someone that's 37 years old and currently on his 8th manual transmission sports car (Vette, Mini JCW, 350Z, etc etc). And to be clear - these are my favorite cars, not the I-PACE. But, I have a wife and a kid, and we need something that isn't manual and has a back seat. And in that category, the Jag is by far and away the best we've had.
Agree word for word.
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😂 I appreciate the blooper at the end! Hope you survived the ant attack Alex.
Based on the comments, no one stayed till the end 😂. Great job by the way Alex!
Thanks for the cool first review. Impressive how you Alex were mentioning stat after stat by heart in the first 5 minutes. One of my 2 favorite Auto TH-camrs. Alex and TeslaBjørn. Keep it up & hi from Switzerland!
Really love what Polestar is doing here.
First rule of tech and car manufacturing. Never buy a new model line the first year of production since they need to work out issues and you as a consumer don’t want to be their beta tester. Time is on your side as a happy consumer.
Not always and polestar/volvo is not new to this rodeo.
@@rcpmac New or not, you are going to be an "early adopter" with the first year of this Polestar 3. This is supposedly Volvo's EV architecture and will be share with the XC90 replacement. The price of the Volvo is supposed to be even higher.
Pricing is ridiculous. Great presentation as always, thank you!
Compared with?
Get a better job. This car isn't for you then.
$93200 Canadian. Ouch.
The Performance Pack with the white Nappa Leather (the one they showcase in almost every video) is $145,000 CAD all in. Fun!
what is the price of the smaller porsche macan EV?
@@suvann540i significantly less than a Rolls Royce. I hope that answers your question 😅
@@BradMistry rofl
Polestar needs to have a reality check and lower their prices quite a bit.
Just buy one that's a year old. They fall like a rock in price.
I'm not sure that's true for the initial launch. I think they are taking advantage of those that are willing to spend more for "new and different" and then they will lower their prices to sell more quantity.
They could lower the price significantly by making the following things standard: all-metal roof; 18-inch wheels; standard steel suspension; base sound system. Make a glass roof, larger wheels, air suspension, and higher-end sound systems all optional ... they add weight, reduce range, and jack the price up unnecessarily in the extreme. If they'd do this when they start making it in Charleston, SC, they could let their buyers get the $7500 federal tax credit -- which would make the car somewhat reasonable in price.
why?
They are much cheaper in China by 20k. We’re paying tarifs + transportation fees
I have seen about 10 reviews of this car. This is the best, most comprehensive Polestar 3 review of them all to date.
This is a fantastic looking SUV. I'm holding out for the Polestar 5
It's a great looking car
These prices are getting out of control and faster than you can go 0-60!
You don’t understand the class of vehicle that’s being presented here. Mercedes, BMW, Porsche….
The power seat is no problem. You can save up to like 6 presets. As soon as you choose your profile. It auto adjusted everything. Steering wheel / seat
Loving these new polestar videos, Alex 😊
Just ordered my polestar 3 in US. I add all the packages except the Lidar package. The final price is $110,000. I think polestar worth it. I lt is a great looking car with fantastic drive experience, I drove my polestar 2 for three years and very satisfied. I recommend buyer try polestar lease options, very very good term. I leased for three years, 10,000 miles a year, no down payment and split the car tax to the three years, thr finak price onky $1535 a month, if you quote for the same price same monthly term, Tesla will charge $1920 a month, Mercedes will charge $2100 a month.
Sleek design! Quality vibe. This car WILL sell...
And they're fun to drive!!
That camera pan at 2:30 is ART
I guess that's one way to fix the "no rear wiper on my EV" issue. 🙄
As a Polestar 2 company car driver, I won’t switch to this in a couple of years owing to the crazy pricing. Benefit in kind rates are creeping up, so the financial incentives are becoming less and less.
I thought 9.8inch ground clearance with air suspension function would be shown
Thank you for the good review. In the US with the EV incentive, this becomes $7,500 cheaper. That makes a lease very desirable.
We have recently sat in a Polestar 3 at a Polestar store inside a mall. Really like the interior material and look but whao, that price tag.
If you think that’s high, check out the German EVs…
I think you should buy one. This is the best bang for your buck in this entire segment
Did you hear anything about whether or not the US models will get the amber turn indicators??
I like it! (Tho the face will take some time...) I wonder why the performance edition reduces the range? Is it that much heavier? Geared lower? Seems like it should allow you to put it in an eco mode and get nearly the same range as the normal AWD version. (I'd really like to be able to take any vehicle at least 300 miles thru the mountains without charging... without that it loses a lot of utility/value for me.)
If I didn't miss anything in the video, it could be down to tire size and compound. You might be able to go to skinnier tires with an eco compound and get most of the range back.
The main reason is that WLTP and EPA range is calculated in the default driving mode. For the Dual Motor the standard mode is Comfort that disable the rear motor automatically.
For the Performance model the default driving mode is Performance with constant AWD.
With the Performance model in comfort mode WLTP is very close to the Dual Motor.
Very well priced for what you get. Much cheaper than the Audi, BMW, Mercedes and Porsche. Will be a close competitor to the Acura ZDX type-S.
I think it looks better than it's German competitors. I also think it's more reasonably priced than them. I priced an MB EQE 350 SUV and a BMW iX and they're ridiculously expensive. A lease with $10000 down and payments still over $800. Who has money to burn? I'm not saying the PS3 is easily affrordable but comparably equipped, its a better value and it looks better then the iX or EQE. I love the styling of this. I didn't think much of it in videos and photos but when I went to the showroom and sat in one, I see why there's so much hype around this vehicle. It really is gorgeous. The interior has a lot of space. Theres no way anyone could be cramped in this SUV. I also like that it was lower overall than most vehicles this large. I felt like I was in a well appointed limo. Good luck to Polestar. I hope this is a hit cause I'm impressed...Big time!
I have a Polestar 2. I have a 3 ordered. This is the best car I have ever driven.
Alex, I like everything you're showing me on the new Polestar 3. I'll put it on my wish list but the price range you mentioned will keep me dreaming.
Love station wagons! Wish @Volvo would sell a pluggin hybrid v60CC
I love what Polestar is doing, sharp looking cars.
However
Those wheels look enormous.
Is there a reason why wheels keep getting bigger.
Larger tires are heavier than larger wheels. They can eek out more mpg, or range for EVs, by saving on weight.
Another reason is style. Thin tires help cornering performance in sports cars, so that became a desirable look in economy cars (along with other fake performance traits like air vents and multiple exhaust tips).
@@AceEverett Hmmm--most cars I've looked at get *lower* mileage with the bigger wheels. I avoid them because they: 1. are more expensive, and 2. degrade ride quality. Also, I know they are supposed to be stylish, but I think they look dorky. Just MHO.
@@nicklyons4227 It's impossible to lose weight and also lose mpg with nothing else changed. Yeah, your vehicle is gonna ride worse with less sidewall to help soak bumps.
@AceEverett Stop spreading lies, that is total BS !!!
The mechanic torque vectoring unit is not that advantageous. Their are very few, if any, circumstances an owner would need all 500+ hp and torque to be sent to just one wheel rear wheel. That is why using two motors is not really a big deal. Furthermore electric motors don't just have a on or off state when torque vectoring. They can spin to different RPM ranges independently of each other where they can produce different hp/torque based on software.
Edit: Like Alex replied below it would only be 272hp per rear wheel max in this car. But in some new vehicles, they have extremely high HP single motors and it seems like having that much power sent to one wheel would never be useful unless on a higher speed track
You need to re-watch the video I think. It’s not 500Hp to a single wheel, it’d be 272. I don’t say that the way torque vectoring works is by turning off a motor, I say that the most you can do in a twin motor system is turn off one motor which is true. You’d be surprised how often a single rear motor in an Audi with twin motor vectoring in the rear is below 10% output. To get much yaw in an AWD EV you actually do need to drive the outside wheel fairly hard.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide @AAutoBuyersGuide Yup I must have missed that. 272hp at 1 wheel can definitely be taken advantage off during hard driving. But in a twin motor setup, why is the most you can is turn a motor off? Through software a company can limit output of the motor as well. For example a Model S Plaid does not give full power in a straight line until 70mph or so. Similarly when going around a left corner for example, Tesla can give the right wheel full power, but then limit the inner wheel to 1/4 power output to overdrive the outside wheels and make the turn in sharper. Tesla doesn't only have the option to turn on and off a motor. They can also limit output to whatever number they want given certain inputs. Kinda like the Ioniq 5 N with all of its fancy software tricks. Motors don't just have an on full power or off no power state.
Again, I’m not saying that motors can’t vary their output. Yes, motors can go 0-100% and anywhere between, however using the SQ8 as an example, the reason the rear motors are quite large (185 HP per wheel) is *because* in sport mode the car is very aggressive at the torque/power split with the inner motor frequently below 10% output as that’s how you get the yaw motion. If you gave one wheel 100% and the other wheel’s motor 50%, yes you’d have a yaw moment, but not a very large one since that’s closer to the power split in a traditional open differential anyway when cornering on a tight road.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Understood! That makes more sense on why you said on/off.
My local Volvo dealer doesn’t even really showcase Polestars. No signs or displays for the cars. Just that same lame ol shipping container sitting in the back of the holding lot with some unwanted 2s scattered about. I’m really interested in a used P3 when they are $40k in a year, though!
polestar is only sold online
For the money if I was going to buy one of these I’d just get the EX90 for the money. I do like the fact you can just subscribe to the car with everything included. Insurance, maintenance, warranty, everything. The after a couple years you just upgrade or purchase for discounted price and credit.
Hard pass at $80k to $ 90k. That is ridiculous.
Cool story bro
I bought one. $108,000+tax (Canadian). Comes out to around $122,000. They are saying I will have it before July. Let’s see
That's what I call putting your money where your....er, TH-cam post is! Hope it treats you well. An EV in Canada seems challenging.
Canada seems to be the arctic to most Americans. It’s no colder then New York or Minnesota The polestar 3 comes standard with a heat pump. So I’m not concerned
Have Launch Edition ordered. Question is now how does 100% play into this. Rumor is it won't on ordered P3. But that's rumor.
Enjoy the monstrous depreciation.
I don't think it will. You live in the US?
You will get one from the Charleston factory then, and it wont be a problem 👍
Does the sunroof have a shade? Will this and the EX90 get the tax break once they are built in SC?
I don't see a rail or gap for a sunshade, so I doubt there is one.
Not sure about the tax rebate, it depends on whether Polestar can satisfy the battery sourcing requirements.
The Polestar 3 could get a 1/2 credit like the EV9 if they play their cards right, but we just don't know yet.
nice looking car
Hey look, an SUV that won't obliterate a pedestrian. Might have to get one of these used a few years from now to replace our 2.
@AAutobuyersguide you're not wrong that it gives off wagon vibes. It seems to be that the Polestar 3 is the unofficial successor to the V90 Cross Country. The specs between those two are very similar.
There is no shark fin antenna on the rear area of roof so where did they hide it ?
It’s under the glass
1) I cannot believe CarPlay is "coming soon" on a vehicle being sold halfway through 2024. I remember when the Polestar 2 first went on sale they said the same thing and it took them 1.5 years to roll it out. Your reminder to never buy a vehicle for promised future updates. If you want CarPlay, don't buy one until it actually has it. 2) Price is almost a non-starter but I anticipate some enticing lease deals coming eventually. 3) At least it has physical vent controls 👍 and 4) I hate getting bit by ants! 😉
We saw a prototype with CarPlay so it sounds like the update will only be needed on the initial production run in China. The OTA should be around September and US built models will all have CP standard
The pricing is... ambitious!
then have a look at the german evs
I love when people compare these luxury performance evs to garbage like a hyundai ionic 5 Kia 6. Do you complain about Mercedes eqe prices? And compare them to a Mach e? No. You don’t. They are in totally different tiers
This is going up against luxury performance evs. Of course it’s not going to be cheap. Go buy a Nissan leaf if you want to be cheap.
Yep
They need to hurry up and about NACS, sodium batteries and whatever else it'll take to drop the price but about 20k
How's moving production away from China going to affect MSRP?
Supposedly the price tag had that baked in at the start. So much of the Chinese build Polestar 3 comes from EU suppliers already that it probably won’t make a difference on the cost structure
Can these manufacturers of SUV’s/CUV’s PLEASE start putting the rear wiper on top so it’s hidden. No reason to block the entire bottom of the window. Definitely cleaner look and more aerodynamic.
It certainly looks cleaner but on a vehicle of this shape I really doubt there is any aerodynamic benefit to putting it on top (especially since the top has that wing element which is open in the center and would be partially blocked if the wiper was up there in some fashion).
@@ALMX5DP the engineers have done it on some makes…aerodynamics aside, it’s much better visually and aesthetically.
@@pokerfred68 like I said, no disagreement to the aesthetic benefits (probably even helps a touch keeping the blade out of the sun/UV on some implementations that tuck it under a big spoiler element).
The spoiler in the rear is a split aero design so having the wiper at the top would actually have been less aerodynamic since it would have blocked the airflow under the rear wing.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide aerodynamics aside…they should all be under the rear wing or spoiler.
Why is every contact point gloss black?? 🤮
Nissan does the same thing, it's horrendous. There's a reason why Honda, Mazda, and other companies avoid it.
Just returned my crappy Polestar 2 after a company lease. Sure hope this is way nicer for the price. The Polestar 2 I had was junk. Constant common issues it never connected to the network for more than a week, the cheap interior was showing major wear at 40k mile especially the crap scuba material seats, had three propulsion errors so 3 months in tbe shop. Glad the Polestar 2 is dead due to tarrifs because it needed to be replaced with a better EV.
i have had mine for three years,driven 85000 km, software works fine with the OTA updates. Initially say 2.5 years ago there were some issues with network connection. Maybe your lease car was not updated?
Alex looks like a completely different person lol
Whomever designed the seat control must find another job.
Why did they have to reinvent the seat controls? Not an improvement there.
Sat in both the 3 and the 4, sorry but the 4 is better finished, feels more luxurious and the rear seats in the 4 are better as they recline and the base doesn't make you feel like your kneecaps are in your eyes!
Alex, thought these are to be made in the USA, especially with the latest white house introduced Tariffs.
You should watch the whole video next time haha. He explains that right at the end
It’s not a Tariff. A Tariff is a targeted punishment to a specific country. What are you referring to is a clause stating that if the company wants Federal Tax benefits for making EVs, they need to make their EVs in the US. Foreign products don’t get US tax benefits.
@@jaycorbinDon't forget the battery sourcing requirements. We'll see if Polestar can satisfy them, but it's likely considering the US assembly and MSRP under $80k.
@@faeinthebay True, not for THIS model, but for the Polestar 2 and other “low-end” models it would be feasible.
Go back to the end of the video ;) they will be built in South Carolina in 2024.
Is the Polestar this expensive in North America due to the tariffs? It can’t be this expensive in other markets can it?
A quick Google search shows that it's just as bad in Europe, €90k. I think Polestar is just being too ambitious.
Pricing is in line or below the BMW, Mercedes and Audi.
it is expensive … compared to a Nissan Leaf 😂 but not to a Porche
@@thomaswestin9987 duh, Polestar is a premium brand, not an economy nor luxury brand. But you can get full luxury models from Genesis and Audi and Cadillac at very competitive prices, which puts Polestar in a tough position.
Did u compare it to Tesla Model Y or I missed it? at whopping $73000 it really cannot compete with Model Y and it is not really able to compete with the Luxury BMW or Audi, right?
It’s a Model X competitor, not a Model Y competitor. It does very very well against the Audi SQ8 e-tron, BMW iX, and Mercedes EQS, the three most direct competitors.
The standard air suspension is stupid… it is expensive and it WILL break (they all do, over time); if it breaks outside of warranty, watch out. They should make air suspension optional or delete it all together … Polestar should also offer 18-inch wheels standard (better range, less expense)… An all-metal roof should also be standard (less weight, less expensive, not a cleaning problem)
In this segment, air suspensions are the norm
@@AAutoBuyersGuidenot a good excuse… it’s also optional in most Porsches including the lower-end Taycans
this is the release version and there will likely be less expensive versions later on, just as with the PS2
I wonder if construction of the platform might happen in the US Volvo plant where the ex90 is built.
I really don't see the appeal of this, I guess it's Geely's entry into the US along with Volvo
6:32 i sat in the rear seat of one last year- now they relocated the freaking cheap add-on cushion at the mid-back higher up. It was too upright, did not recline, was uncomfortably flat without that padding. What are you doing, volvo ? I mean polestar ?.
The price is absolutely insane, way to expensive. Polestar would do a lot better if they’d price their vehicles for what they actually are. Polestar isn’t “luxury” to me - just a nice Volvo.
Soo many missed opportunities for polestar .in beginning they were affordable tesla alternative. I don't know why they decided to be expensive luxury brand but software sucks. But I admit I like interior better than tesla but still just looks like volvo.and doesn't look luxury .as an investor I admit I'm losing on a ev company that had lots of potential ...my I hope they can get paperwork together and avoid stock d listing and fix crappie software and charging situations..we can only hope polestar will survive their own bad decisions.
they have never aimed to be, or been, an affordable tesla alternative
I gonna use Yor popularity to caal out Volvo to add 3 seats in EM90 in the middle row and send it to EU!!!
111 kWh battery only gives ~300 miles of range? For comparison, the Model Y has a 81 kWh battery that gives 330 miles of range. That's an almost 40% bigger battery than the Model Y for LESS range! If the battery size was the same, the Model Y would achieve 462 miles of range.
There's some wildly inefficient design in this Polestar and it's probably a big reason for its very high cost.
Tesla games the EPA numbers and always have. Real world the disparity won't be as great. Then again, the model Y refresh might change the game yet again.
After seeing all these cars, it's validated for me how much of an awesome buy the Lyriq is.
Well, just have a lemon law lawyer on standby after buying….
Disappointing rear hatch :it's not a wide opening it looks like a bottleneck.
Porsche all the way for me in this price range, better quality, better driving experience, better dealers. Polestars are way too closely associated with China for me.
Nearly 500 bhp, yet 0-60 only 4.5sec.
The Genesis gv70 EV (and gv60) gets 3.6 sec and better Luxury (unlike the model Y's garbage interiors)
I think comparing the GV70 and Model Y isn't quite right. The EV6 and Ioniq 5 are closer competitors to the Y. I agree that the lack of performance is weird considering how easy it is for Polestar's competitors to add power.
@@faeinthebay Totally agree. My original comment didn't mention it. It's just a preemptive Tesla-fanboy deterrent after reading others' rushed comments.
Drop it 20k and then it might sell better
Zeekr from Geely and Polestar from Volvo? Someone is having a hard time coping with the fact that they love Chinese products
Polestar: Design in Sweden, software from USA, engineering in the UK, funding from China. Is that ”chinese”? Was Volvo american when it was owned by Ford??
@@thomaswestin9987 don't bark at me. And yes, it was.
I dont bark, just stating fact and asked a question. And I never heard /seen discussions whether Volvo was american or Swedish
It’s expensive for what it is. I wonder how the already inflated pricing of Volvos and Polestars will get affected will the new taxes levied on EVs from China and Battery components from
China
It’s much less than the German competition…. Also: other than the first few thousand, they will all be built in the USA
Nice car but it's way too expensive. Sorry Polestar, it's not on Cayenne's level. Your brand does not have the Porsche mystic yet. I'll be interested once these depreciate 50% in 3 years.
Have to agree. Really like it, but you’re definitely in Cayenne territory and I don’t think it’ll ever be Cayenne.
Nearly 500 bhp, yet 0-60 only 4.5sec.
The Genesis gv70 EV (and gv60) gets 3.6 sec and better Luxury (unlike the model Y's garbage interiors)
I'm so glad i dumped the wait for the Volvo ex90 (the polestar 3 sibling but with the important LIDAR) and went for a 13 month lease for the Genesis Gv70.
Refinement, luxury AND Performance - no compromises except the 230-250 mile EV range.
EX90 was on my wish list for 1+year bcoz of the Lidar (LUMINAR said it would allow HANDS-OFF AND EYES-OFF level ADAS). BTW in early 2024, TESLA bought $2 million worth of lidar sensors from this SAME COMPANY LUMINAR.
This is nothing like a cayenne … it’s more comparable to the Volvo cross country wagon … If polestar wants to make their cars to compete with Porsche, they need to emulate Porsche’s first-rate cockpit (instrument panel, screens, physical controls outside of infotainment screen) - not emulate Tesla’s horrible, amateurish game-video cockpit
Buy a used Taycan Turismo if you really want a performance EV with a hatch. Or wait for discounts on this one.
polestar does not do much of discounts
@@thomaswestin9987 ... for now ... give it time.
Cool vehicle but I'm in the Chevy Bolt price range 😂
Then why watch these videos? There's no way that you could've thought that this would be in the same league of pricing as a "everyday/common" Chevy...did you? 😂
@@oracleoptix Because I like cars, even ones I'll never buy. 99%+ of the people watching supercar videos will never own one.
cool!
Why do so many EVs come with air suspension. It's not due to weight of the batteries. It's to ensure you take the car in for service regularly. EVs require next to no servicing, unless of course you load it with moving parts and tech. What a scam.
It’s absolutely because of the weight…
@@AAutoBuyersGuide So we're forced to pay and service them. $2k per corner according to my Volvo dealer. Polestar is probably more expensive and probably more likely to wear due to the weight. Based on the other comments here, like Disney, EV manufacturers have lost the plot on what customers want in favor what they think we should consume. Good luck.
This is not a simple thing to answer. Air suspensions are more reliable than you think, it’s pretty normal for them to not need any service at all for 100,000 miles. When they do, they can get expensive however. On the other hand: oddly enough air suspensions also exist because customers want them. The option is very, very popular on nearly every vehicle that offers it. From the RAM trucks to Jeeps, to EVs and other non EV luxury cars, customers talk with their wallets and their wallets seem to say they don’t care about the long term implications.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Fair enough. I have regular springs on my XC90 with 93,000 miles on it. I specifically avoided the air suspension when I purchased back in 2016. No one who rides with me seems feel I'm lacking anything without the air suspension. So far, no suspension issues, touch wood; but the real test is whether it gets to 150,000 miles without suspension issues, and when it does, how much it will cost.
Prices are ridiculously high. I hope nobody buys it so this won’t become the normal price
Great review. Totally indifferent to the car - hohum, it's a Volvo.
in what way?
I just don’t get the appeal of Polestar. It’s an expensive Volvo with no soul and sales appeal.
IMHO, it’s ok to not get the appeal of a car, all that means is that it probably wasn’t designed for you, but for some other target customer. Everyone has their own set of likes and dislikes.
Polestar has some nice cars but I would never buy one because the brand name sounds like the best dancer at a gentlemen's club. They should called it Northstar or something else.
This is the direct translation from Swedish - which in that language actually means North Star
Polestar used to be Volvos racing brand. Like AMG for Mercedes or M for BMW, it eventually evolved to making cars for the public.
with their racing background the name also relates to having pole position. The real Gentlemen 😊
Wayyyy too expensive and lease price is ridiculous … wanted to get something with more range than my etron …had high hopes but that’s a no from me.I like the looks though - reminds me a bit of the I-pace from the side
It isn't too expensive. I sat in one. It feels just as high quality as the Lucid sedan. And look at the specs. It's the type of vehicle that if you have the money you buy it. But it is the SUV flagship, not an entry-level model from Polestar. It'll cost money to get.
April-May2024, Genesis has had a 13 month lease for ELECTRIFIED models My gv70 EV was advertised 499/mo, 3999 down for 10k miles. I got a better deal than advertised, but FYI gv60 / kia ev9 / ioniq5 limited, all had mark-ups.
@m_sync i think your original comment started model-Y : if so, other than electric range and motor performance in certain specs (charging network will be open to all pretty soon), there is NOTHING appealing about Tesla as far as the premium vehicle shopper.
@@benjaminsmith2287Lucid ? i sat in the rear seat of a P3 last year- it was too upright, did not recline, was uncomfortably flat backrest without a cheap lumbar add-on padding, seat base was too low. NOW see 6:35 they relocated that freaking add-on cushion higher up.
if it is too expensive buy a cheap car. You get what u pay for.
I find the 3 and 4 incredibly generic and goofy looking. They really lack the elegance and sophistication of the 1 and 2. And the interiors are too sterile for me.
Chinese car with American price... Nuff said!
It’ll be built in South Carolina…
built in the US, designed in Sweden, engineered in the UK
oh and software from Google, computer hardware from nVidia
how is that chinese?
completely overpriced for what you are getting
It's annoying that it would be considered daring for an EV manufacturer to not include a glass roof these days.
Another car maker that thinks it is OK to roast the occupants. What's worse is you actually pay them so you can self-inflict yourself.
Nice car, uncreative name
You talked and moved too much around the car - why don't you try some quality reviews and adopt elements of their style
Maybe we’ll try a silent montage of boring still pictures next time.
Pretty but expensive.
compared to what? Nissan Leaf?
They are not even made in "Sweden".
so what? Sweden has a population 1/35 of the USA so Polestar 3 are made in the USA. Makes sense, yes?
Both the Polestar 3 and 4 are wildly overpriced. Surprising since it's built by cheap Chinese labour. No thanks Polestar.
They are less than the German options . Remember that only the first 3-4 months of production is in China, if you order one today you’ll be getting one made in the USA, and even the China made models use parts heavily sourced from EU based suppliers.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Polestar 4 is being produced in the US?
Polestar 4 is being made in China for the first 5 months, then South Korea.
It's already somewhat frightening on the hwy now. Can you imagine a 5000 pound battering ram with a road rager. Inattentive teen or a plethora of other people who shouldn't be driving all heading for a street and play ground near you. Just kidding everyone knows they stop on a dime.
Trucks and many other vehicles are this heavy or more. Not sure why this seems to be a comment everyone makes about EVs. My S7 is 4500 lbs and it’s a sedan
Just a matter of time before Polestar and Fisker are out of business. They both have been hemorrhaging cash something crazy.
Polestar is weird because they're attached to the Geely group. I assume they'd be dissolved and distributed between Volvo, Zeekr, Lynk, etc.
The difference is that Polestar's parent company has the cash to burn and doesn't seem to care...
Geely has done wonders with Volvo. Now they are doing the same for Polestar.
Junk.
About $30k too expensive
oh please stop this bs and look at german ev car prices first
As one of Parkinson’s Laws goes: "Perfection of planned layout is only achieved by institutions on the point of collapse". This looks to be the case here
Polestar will not survive.
Hahahahaha ok buddy
see you in the rear mirror