I just wanna add that you could still edge cancel quick attack in smash 4, it was just really hard. Esam started using it in the latter half of the game and it was very strong path out of disadvantage while also having some interesting offensive applications
@@thatkirbodude diddy is still better, also fox would be better then pika, cause pika was top tier I 1 game and high tier in brawl smash 4 and ulitmate, and upper mid tier I melee, while fox was high tier in 64, top tier in melee, smash 4 and ulitmate, and mid tier in brawl
some of the other best moves across every smash game could be. Pikachu Up-air Falcon up air meta knight up air sheik f tilt Mario Up air Sheik Fair Fox Nair Kirby uptilt Yoshi Nair Btw I think Pikachu is the best character across all smash games, if you only were allowed to play one character in every smash game and you wanna win, pikachu is the best option, and if a new smash game is comming out, pikachu will almost always be a safe bet as a first few months main
EWGF is only in 1 game and it’s not even the best move in Ultimate. It’s the best ground normal for sure, but there’s a good amount of specials and even a few aerials that are likely better. Spin dash, minecart, block, GnW up-b, Steve d-air, Cloud b-air, Monado Arts, Charge Shot, etc
Just among moves that have existed since smash 64 (cause if it’s just any move it’s Steve’s neutral b lol), I think there’s a decent case for Kirby up tilt. Kirby as a character has sucked shit ever since 64 of course, but that uptilt has remained one of the best uptilts in every game it’s in (well, I’m not sure about brawl. It might suck in brawl but I think I remember it being good in brawl) I do think pikachu’s up b is prolly better on the whole, just because it fills a more important role in a kit, but that uptilt is kinda nasty.
If it's just any move, I would argue for Brawl Meta Knight Dimensional Cape. You can literally make yourself invisible, *and invincible*, INDEFINITELY. Infinite Dimensional Cape was actually a thing.
It's Brawl Meta Knight Dimensional Cape (D-Special). There was a tech called Infinite Dimensional Cape that literally made him untouchable, and was basically an auto-win button if Meta Knight got so much as a single percentage point lead.
@@cerealbowl7038 EXACTLY! In terms of non-banned moves, it's pretty hard to argue against Brawl Meta Knight Mach Tornado. Ultimate Steve Block is a worthy candidate, though.
I don't think a recovery move could be the best move in smash because ourside of 64 it wouldn't benefit most characters more than something like fox uair would
Yeah I disagree, I feel like even top tiers can easily make better use of a strong recovery especially if it were added to their combo game. I don’t even necessarily agree with pika upb being the best (or at least I haven’t gone through every other contender in my head), but I don’t think it can be counted out just because it’s an upb, that doesn’t make sense That said, Fox up air is probably not even the best upair across all games, falcon upair probably has that accolade and may even have claim to the best move in the series (though idk brawl and smash 4’s iterations at all)
I just wanna add that you could still edge cancel quick attack in smash 4, it was just really hard. Esam started using it in the latter half of the game and it was very strong path out of disadvantage while also having some interesting offensive applications
2:45 starting characters there's 12 in total
Pikachu in general may be the most constantly good characters in all of a smash, and quick attack is one of many reasons why that’s the case.
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@ yeah and Pikachu was around for 2 more games
@@thatkirbodude diddy is still better, also fox would be better then pika, cause pika was top tier I 1 game and high tier in brawl smash 4 and ulitmate, and upper mid tier I melee, while fox was high tier in 64, top tier in melee, smash 4 and ulitmate, and mid tier in brawl
some of the other best moves across every smash game could be.
Pikachu Up-air
Falcon up air
meta knight up air
sheik f tilt
Mario Up air
Sheik Fair
Fox Nair
Kirby uptilt
Yoshi Nair
Btw I think Pikachu is the best character across all smash games, if you only were allowed to play one character in every smash game and you wanna win, pikachu is the best option, and if a new smash game is comming out, pikachu will almost always be a safe bet as a first few months main
a well thought out video, but id like to see more honorable mentions or contenders to really get a good picture of what you consider "good" in a move.
Kirby's Up-tilt 🥱
It low profiles and goes for the enemy's balls.
Quack in pm was possibly the most broken combining the best of both melee and brawl
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Really cool video idea, would love more like this. Very well presented too
“Something lame & dumb like Fox” you said it not me haha
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EWGF is only in 1 game and it’s not even the best move in Ultimate. It’s the best ground normal for sure, but there’s a good amount of specials and even a few aerials that are likely better. Spin dash, minecart, block, GnW up-b, Steve d-air, Cloud b-air, Monado Arts, Charge Shot, etc
brawl part of the video was so beast i didnt know that was a thing
Great video, did not expect it to be from a smaller channel. Def atleast top 5 move if not the best
7:38 btw teeter cancel and edge cancel are 2 different tech
What? You didn’t pay $29.95 to “remove this nag”??? Lmao
Good work on this!
2:45 lmao 8 characters?
People seeing stuff like xintini's clip but also being boxx supporters be like "he got lucky its dk it doesn't count" is hilarious too me
Just among moves that have existed since smash 64 (cause if it’s just any move it’s Steve’s neutral b lol), I think there’s a decent case for Kirby up tilt. Kirby as a character has sucked shit ever since 64 of course, but that uptilt has remained one of the best uptilts in every game it’s in (well, I’m not sure about brawl. It might suck in brawl but I think I remember it being good in brawl)
I do think pikachu’s up b is prolly better on the whole, just because it fills a more important role in a kit, but that uptilt is kinda nasty.
If it's just any move, I would argue for Brawl Meta Knight Dimensional Cape. You can literally make yourself invisible, *and invincible*, INDEFINITELY. Infinite Dimensional Cape was actually a thing.
I'm going to nitpik. In Melee, MewTwo's recovery is also incredibly hard to edgeguard as well as Pikachu.
Good video.
jigglypuffs is also just better no contest
@@simongutner5982 i disagree, i love when a puffs recovering, it means i have a free edge guard
@@simongutner5982 Jigglypuff's recovery is not better. You still see gimps on Puff with Fox, though still rare.
Complimentary engagement
I can see it
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The best move in Smash history is Steve's neutral B.
It's Brawl Meta Knight Dimensional Cape (D-Special). There was a tech called Infinite Dimensional Cape that literally made him untouchable, and was basically an auto-win button if Meta Knight got so much as a single percentage point lead.
@@haydeniskander5306 That's banned though.
@@cerealbowl7038 EXACTLY!
In terms of non-banned moves, it's pretty hard to argue against Brawl Meta Knight Mach Tornado. Ultimate Steve Block is a worthy candidate, though.
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I don't think a recovery move could be the best move in smash because ourside of 64 it wouldn't benefit most characters more than something like fox uair would
genuinely why? I guess it makes a bit of sense in the newer games, but give any melee character pika up b and they jump up a tier
Yeah I disagree, I feel like even top tiers can easily make better use of a strong recovery especially if it were added to their combo game. I don’t even necessarily agree with pika upb being the best (or at least I haven’t gone through every other contender in my head), but I don’t think it can be counted out just because it’s an upb, that doesn’t make sense
That said, Fox up air is probably not even the best upair across all games, falcon upair probably has that accolade and may even have claim to the best move in the series (though idk brawl and smash 4’s iterations at all)
i think 1:33 was bc of the fastfall
or a missed jump, idk