Subaru WRX GT Automatic (SPT) Review / Facing the Music
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2022
- The All-new WRX has a CVT with an identity crisis. Today, I am going to try to address all of the concerns and see if it is worth your attention. A tall task considering this is priced into the territory of the Civic Type R, Corolla GR, Audi A3, Golf Type R and BMW 228i.
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A note on the VW option: I'm sure it's fantastic, having been an Audi owner. But reviews should address dealership proximity, as that alone would be a deal maker or breaker. Also, maintenance-wise, a Subaru is a much better choice...dependability, cost, ease to work on, ease of getting parts. These are car reviews by car guys for car guys but these things are just left out. There's a reason after 10 years 97% of Subarus are on the road. Because they're dependable and when things do go wrong, they're easy and affordable to work on yourself, or for your local trusty mechanic. Most private shops sneer at VW's and Audi's because parts availability and cost create problems. Of course, if you're a VW enthusiast, much of this doesn't matter...but the same can be said for Subaru enthusiasts.
And I'm just going to assume that WRX and Golf reviews stay away from mentioning all-weather performance, especially snow, because it would mean having to admit the WRX has a significant advantage.
As someone who lives in the snow belt, I'm happy to say my WRX GT, if tested in summer and winter, and a verdict rendered, would "win". If you want fun, safety, performance in any weather 365 days of the year, Subaru owns it.
Golf R is hens tooth and closer to 50k... most dealers still marking up. Buying Limited or Premium rather than GT has you in GTI range and the GTI to get dual zone climate costs 42k with Autobahn trim. VW is pretty bad with option packaging... GTI S, gets you a heated steering wheel, but dual zone climate will cost you $8k. Thats a crazy disconnect. My wife is always cold and I need Dual Zone Climate.
Talk us your verdict
What's weird to me is that the WRX with the premium trim is such a bargain of a car. But this GT trim seems like a really bad deal.
It really is a confusing price for what you get. The limited spec manual is the absolute most I could personally justify!
@Alex Sorry, but the dampers and seats are not worth $10k to me. At the price point of a wrx gt, a golf r is much more appealing. But, to each their own.
@Alex the limited is a waste of money too. Premium with sun/sound package is my ideal bang for your buck.
@Alex I have no interest in an auto WRX. Only the 6mt. If I were in the market for a vehicle with an auto, it would be one equipped with a DCT.
@Alex those are nice choices, but near impossible to get if the rumored production numbers are true.
Best CVT video on the 22 WRX I’ve seen yet. I hadn’t driven stick in about 5 years but previously owned a speed3 and 350z and was honestly contemplating an auto wrx. I test drove a manual 19 WRX and placed the order for a 22 Limited the next week and have had it for about a month now and couldn’t be happier. I would have been looking for that driving experience the manuals offer and would have been pretty disappointed
LMAO the CVT scene got me again. Awesome review Tyler!
Great info. My last wrx was a 2016 limited cvt, I drove it for 3 years and then traded it in for a 2019 Golf R which I drove for 3.5 years. Before all that I was a Volvo c30 guy that also modified a 2008 (and before that 1999 Mustang GT) mustang GT. Anyways, my Golf R was the best car I will ever own or drive. It was a blast. The problem is it's snow traction and ground clearance which no matter what tires/wheel combo you used was a big issue over the years. The WRX platform just gets me to work or wherever in whatever weather I am driving in. So yeah I traded in my 2019 Golf R for a 2022 WRX GT. I did this even after watching your review some weeks ago. I sure could have gotten a premium with a stick but I don't want to drive stick, I can, I just don't want to. The level of hate auto/cvt cars get is amusing, having driven both I can tell you that unless you are on a race track it's sorta pointless. My comparison against the cars I have test driven and owned: the 2022 WRX GT is better in all weather and condition driving then all of them. However it's no Golf R... then again it's a more confident and likely hardier driving car that won't end up on the side of the road with a destroyed wheel and tire or worse. I considered a Carolla GR but the 20 k marked was silly for what you got and ground clearance would be an issue. The wrx was all I could get to fit my needs and the GT trim was what I wanted. Is it overpriced? Well considering a new Golf R would end up on the side of the road 4 or 6 times a winter up here in NY I guess not.. sad though that to drive something I can deal with costs so much. These are the last days of non ev.. so we better enjoy ourselves. Evs will cost a bunch more the. Even the wrx GT...
Good point. Its a awesome daily driver with a bit of punch. Golf R here in Aus are about 25k more
I've driven the 2022 GT in World Rally Blue a couple of weeks ago on a test drive from the dealership. The car handles great. I totally enjoyed it. The looks on the outside, especially on the rear bumper, was not as bad as I thought it would be when you see it in person. You are correct about the high price tag for the GT. There is just not enough value to justify purchasing it when the lower priced trims would be a better value for the money including the base. I would be happy just buying the base trim. There's enough value from the base to enjoy the car for years plus many WRX owners mod their cars anyway.
Love the
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"cvt"
Antics between the two videos. Freaking hilarious. Well done, and great reviews overall.
Great, informative and entertaining review Tyler! I’m in the market for a new car and while I’m a Subaru fanboy - I’ve been driving a bugeyes WRX wagon for over 22 years - I’m more of a sport wagon fan and those examples are increasingly rare. Most have been CUV’d in the last few years and while I really like the Mazda 3 sedan the hatch is cramped and I’m not a fan with the looks. Since the release of the upcoming Impreza RS I’ve been going over these WRX GT reviews to glean some impressions of reviewers of the powertrain and chassis of it since the RS has yet to be driven by reviewers. I just came back from renting a brand new Forester Wilderness for a week in New England and came back impressed with the powertrain, including the CVT. It was plenty quick enough and the paddles and mode settings were very responsive. And while the Forester handled great for the type of vehicle it is I also came back convinced that a top heavy crossover is not for me. I’ve test driven the Outback/XT and it’s a quick wagon but still a bit heavy and tall. I’m hoping, and it seems very likely, that the Impreza RS will be a competent handler and with 500 lbs less on the same/updated powertrain, a decently quick car as well. I was hoping for the Levorg/WRX wagon to be imported but it seems like this is Subaru’s answer to us (interestingly, I compared the passenger and cargo room of the Levorg and Impreza hatch and the latter is a tad bit larger) I’ll be looking forward to your test drive of it and with Subaru VIP pricing status and a loyalty coupon come spring I’m likely going to be ready to pull the trigger. It looks to be coming at just $30k for a real stiff and solid chassis with updated engine, transmission, suspension, steering and AWD looks to be competitive with what’s actually out there. Keep the awesome reviews coming!
I've learned to love the CVT *punch!* in my Impreza Sport hatchback. It's so much fun to row through the virtual "gears", keeping the wimpy FB20 in the 4k-6k rpm range on tight twisty roads. I'm sure the SPT in the new WRX makes it a better all-around grand-tourer and daily driver without the need for any modifications. Tuners should look at the base model as a better starting point. I really want the Recaro seats from the GT for my Impreza Sport, though.
I got the limited with the SPT. Great daily driver, car is growing on me more and more
What made you choose this over the dsg gti? I really like this car but the community never fails to crap on the new wrx
@@seffseffseffseffseff1662 first of all fuck the community I don’t care what anybody says, the money is coming out of my pocket not theirs. Second the car has been an amazing daily, seats are extremely comfortable, and it’s good on gas. Buy whatever you like, not what other people like, there’s always gonna be haters in the world, I get people asking to race me everyday which does get annoying, but I just go on in life.
@@awesomedude65 respect, and despite the hate ive heard only good reviews from the actual owners lol
This video helped me monumentally.
Honestly, if you want an auto, top of the line subaru sedan, why not the legacy? It makes ~11 hp less but more torque on regular. It also comes with more standard features (like ventilated seats) all while costing $4k less. I don't see the value proposition of the auto WRX GT (not like I can afford it anyway).
An excellent point, the legacy makes more sense in every way except for handling, the wrx is much more tuned for high speed cornering and the steering is tu ed for that too (although they have the same steering ratio). I'm actually editing a video on the Outback XT vs WRX GT right now! I just haven't gotten ahold of a legacy xt yet.
WRX have a more sophisticated AWD system with the CVT/SPT than any other CVT offered by Subaru (Outback, Forester, CrossTrek, Legacy, Accent and Impreza). It uses a planetary gear set with a multi-plate clutch that split torque at 45:55 under normal conditionals and can split torque up to 50:50. All other CVT AWD systems with Subaru is more front wheel drive bases, it just uses a multi-plate clutch that can varied torque from 90:10 up to 50:50. This video from Driving Sports TV explains it way better than I can.
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@@Realistick I got a 2022 Legacy to drive when I had my WRX (23 Limited CVT) in for some work. And while on paper it doesn't seem much different, it doesn't feel or drive similar at all. I think the "SPT" is specific to the WRX for one, I don't think it's identical to the CVTs on the rest of the lineup. It also doesn't sound like a turbo boxer at all, sounds like a regular economy car. Doesn't pull the same, and as you noted handling isn't even close. I don't think the engine in Legacy/Ascent/XT are identical either, like they aren't just a WRX engine tuned for more torque, likely why they don't pull or sound the same.
The fact that subaru is still giving us sporty option is good to me considering they are not a big company in terms of sale volume they rank low making a 10th of what toyota and VW make a year
Let's see the new cvt with some power mods.
From what I understand it is the same as the past gen, however different.
When in "manual" mode, if the "gears" hold under power, and don't move, this could in sense replicate a dct....I'll use standard cvt for commuting.
I have GT. Sold on it because it's the newer version cvt, and they emphasize on its performance. After my testing I'll decide to keep it or trade it in.
Hopes are high for now as I do take this car off road and plan to throw some dirt/rally wheels, and tires on it for winter.
No longer a WRX, only in name. Just a nice inexpensive GT car for dads and moms. Yay!!!
Great review. Definitely a head scratcher of a trim. I really only wish these adaptive dampers were available on the limited trim w/ the manual making that trim more comfort oriented
@Alex While it is the most comfort-oriented trim, it also has the most performance-oriented features. Shoppers who enjoy the core experience of driving a manual are likely to seek out alternatives around that price point.
I love how you talk about the Golf R while I've seen others mention the GTI, the R is a better performance comparison in my opinion since its also AWD. Anyhow, I didn't realize the R's had a DCT, that defiantly puts them ahead in my book. Its hard to beat a DCT.
Every German car I've owned except my eGolf has left me sad and mad at some point. Audi A4, blew out a seal on the rear dif at 80k / 6 yrs old. The PO had the belt jump time at 22k and the engine needed new valve, pison, head at 22k miles..sure warranty, but it happened 600 miles from home on a vacation, yet he loved the car. I loved it too, until the rear dif nearly self-destructed by burping gear oil because the seal blew at city driving speeds. It got loud, I had it towed to a shop. It was a repair that never needed to happen on a sub 100k mile car.
I still don't know what's up with the "issue" of the black cladding. AE86 Trueno, 280z with the famous black fender flares, Skyline R30, MKII Supra, Silvia S12? To each their own I guess, except most people really believe their opinion is objective lol
im happy with my 15 110k no issues....one point....honda makes a side by side with a 1000cc and a dual clutch......i really liked driving it....we had one working at a wastewater treatment plant.....the thing would go
What Color are you Guys thinking... I am liking the Blue's and base model trim. Why can't I have cross path and blind on the base? I hope the 2024 gives the base this. I want the smaller wheels and larger sidewall, the split screen is fine and I want Cloth and no Sunroof!
I've been looking at this car for a while now but I having a tough time making a decision. I haven't ever driven a manual so that takes out the civic type R, and I have looked into the elantra N but I want to get something will all wheel drive as I have to deal with snow. But like another comment says "why not just get the legacy". The looks of this car in my opinion are far better than the legacy but again a CVT in a WRX feels wrong...
I literally have 40K laying around for when they move to DCT and move on from this styling.
I plan to track this car with CVT, will I get the same engine braking as the manual?
interesting.. I just bought a 22 Wrx limited orange with every single option possible minus the exclusives to gt for under msrp. Best decision ever
I am sure that there is an audience that wants a WRX name plate but don’t drive manual and don’t care about those geek car characteristics: this car is for them, and I think it represents the majority of car buyers.
True, but it is far from a majority of WRX buyers. Only 15 percent opted for the auto in the last gen.
I own the 2022 wrx GT. Everything he said is pretty much spot on. Nonetheless, it’s a great car and fun to drive! Def more refined than the 2021 wrx.
@Alex I added extra options too but they couldn’t install them in the end due to lack of man power. They took it off the invoice. Fine by me, I’ll just install the pieces myself. I currently have 700 miles on the odometer. How about you? Also, for the first time today after I washed my WRX, I put it in sport + mode and HOLY MOTHER OF GOD. I’ve been driving on normal mode mostly to conserve gas but MY GOD, SPORT + IS A FRICKIN BEAST. The acceleration put me in my seat! Didn’t think it had that kind of pull power 😅
@Alex really? Duly noted. I’ll just drive it in sport for everyday use then. Sport + when I wanna have fun 🤩
@Alex I drive mine (300 miles on it so far) in comfort engine, sport suspension and steering. I'm waiting for a few more driving hours on the engine then I'll never take it out of super sport mode. Heh.
What is 0 to 60 time for this ?
@@geneforte9038 manuals been clocking 0-60 in about 5 seconds, the CVT a few thenths of a second slower. Under peak conditions, I imagine 5 flat
No one shits you for driving an automatic unless it's a WRX... quite funny really
I'd buy the base manual every day of the week over this!
I have a 2014 cvt sentra any Subaru cvt is like driving a Ferrari compared to other cvt vehicles
if you threw anybody in the car and told them it was a DCT transmission they wouldnt question it. Its always next to impossible to change someones mindset. once they have it in their heads that its a cvt then it must be shit and they ignore the rest. A marketing issue I'm sure Subaru are aware of. And unfortunately most press reviewers dont want to alienate their viewers, and get more clicks, so they give the manual die hards a nice backrub in their reviews. THere are thankfully a couple of reviews out there where the reviewer has made it quite clear that the cvt is awesome. This car only has an "identity crisis" if you yourself give it one.
As i said here, it’s leagues better than the previous one but if you drive it and then drive other DCT competitors (like most reviewers), you notice it. ESPECIALLY off the line. It was a cheap way for Subaru to offer an automatic without developing a different transmission. I understand why they did it, they did it well, but they still could not escape the fundamental flaws of using a cvt for a sport sedan.
Honestly the only reason why I would get the spt over the regular CVT in the cheap trim is because the spt most likely just has a higher torque rating and in general even if you drive your CVT softly having a higher torque rating is going to help it last longer. That's the reason why the CVT that is used in the Nissan Versa last less than the completely identical CVT in the Mitsubishi Mirage. The Nissan Versa has about 70% more power but they're the exact same transmission. But because it has a lot less power it makes the identical jatco in the mirage last longer.
All trims get the spt, another key aspect to the dependability is the tuning, something Mitsubishi seems to beat Nissan at too.
@@Realistick oh I meant cheaper trim in the sense that someone may get the cheaper Subaru Impreza limited instead of the slightly more expensive Impreza WRX which is nicer looking outside and inside but has less amenities and features for more money but it makes spending the extra worth it more for long term value imo. All Impreza WRX trims get it but not the regular Impreza.
@@elihernandez330 The WRX isn't a trim of the Impreza. The Impreza and WRX are two completely different models.
8:56 Gotta love Bloomington
I own a previous gen wrx cvt and I will not be purchasing another one lbs. I'm not sure why Subaru decided to go with cvts accross all of their platforms when financially they've been doing pretty well, but it was a huge mistake to not engineer a robust automatic or DCT. Their cvts have been so bad they had to issue an extended 100k mile warranty on most of their models.
It's another great review! I saw a brand new WRX that was test driving by a potential buyer and noticed black smoke came out from tailpipe multiple times while it was slow down to the red light. How reliable is WRX compare to a Honda, Mazda, or Toyota?
Thank you! That's odd, I'd probably attribute that to a lemon or a poor modification. It should hold its own in reliability if we base it off of the last generation. I think Mazda might have the leg up in the long haul, Corolla GR is a toss up! All of them should be good bets but that's just my prediction based off of their history.
@@Realistick Thank you for your inputs, I was considering buying a new WRX Limited, but seeing the black smokes coming out while on a test- drive it makes me very nervous. I had a very bad experience with a BMW 530i constantly adding engine oil every 2k miles.
Black smoke is fine, blue smoke is bad
@@tear728 thank you for tip
@@fatwhitetuna6659 The black smoke could've been many things, especially since it was Brand New.
complain all you want, cvt is a much better set up than the manual transmission. Why do you think F1 cars as well as Lambos, Ferraris are all automatic?
Bro stop trolling😂
@@magyar3898 Manual trans jargons
That's all I hear Lambo and Ferrari owners rant and rave about. Their "CVT" automatics. Lol 😂
Can you comment on Subaru's cracking windshields? this seems to be a big issue spanning all their models. Nice video!
I've mentioned it in my full reviews a few times, it is somewhat common but having worked at a Subaru dealer, I think the dead battery thing was much more prevalent.
Yeah mine cracked. Flimsy body. Thats what safelite said. Tons of Subies crack due to flex.
The only thing I like about the new WRX is the quad exhaust. Classic.
This model would make sense with a dual clutch and 40 extra ponies at this price
There is a launch mode for these cars, at least there was for the 16+ cvt. Put ur foot all the way down on the brake, other foot on the gas. Should rev to ~2500 rpm. Let off the brake and it will go to peak rpm and hold there until you let off the gas
That's what I did in this one, and you can see the car do just that. It can't fix that the CVT will not put down the power off the line.
@Realistick gotcha. As much as they say they've improved the transmission the car is actually slower than the previous gen cvt, it just handles better and hits boost sooner
I bought the WRX manual. I test drove the auto, but yes, it was too much like driving our Outback. If I had wanted an auto I would have bought a Golf or an i30N
In what country i30N ?
@@ukuskota4106 Australia
I love Subaru and I'm buying another one soon, but I don't see the excitement for a mere 271 hp, and certainly not at that price.
I’m sorry to say but that dealer that loaned you this car put regular 87 octane in this regardless of what they tell you. I have the exact same car and it hits 5.5 seconds or 5.2 with rollout. Your engine was either incredibly heat soaked or you were running 87 octane. Dealers tend to do this because that little bit of money saved means something to them. 🤷♂️
This is a much better deal than the Honda and it's smaller (narrower) which is good. I think when the Honda Civic hybrid comes, that might be competition for this. Overall, I think for the price, this is a great car. If I had to buy an automatic fun/fast car right now, this would probably be it although in a lower priced model.
Well done！
I got my GT 5k under MSRP is pricing is a non issue for and is actually a bargain and feel like I got the best value of all trims.... but I know mine is a special case so this doesn't apply for everybody
@Alex Nice! I bought my Outback from Chandler Superstore, been looking for an automatic GT around the valley, seems like most of the inventory are manuals.
Launch gear added should solve then CVT problem.
It would be a huge benefit, but that might require a new transmission altogether
My biggest takeaway is that the Outback XT got 0-60 in .1 second faster on regular fuel (that's why you sold me on the Outback XT originally). Which begs the question, why is Subaru's station wagon beating their sportscar? Love your excellent reviews, Tyler.
I'm actually editing that exact video right now so hopefully i can help clear that up!! Thank you.
The answer is torque. A lot of torque will get you a nice lunch and 0-60 but the HP will get you to the higher and more consistent speeds.
I was thinking the same thing. I have a 2021 Legacy Touring XT and it gets to 60 in 6.1 seconds with the same engine tuned for 260 HP and on regular unleaded and gets 30-31 MPG on the highway (my last long trip). Of course it doesn't have the WRX handling. You'd think Subaru would do more to differentiate the straight performance from the Outback and Legacy XT models.
Easily within a window of error for street tests. The two vehicles happen to have very similar performance however - leading to similar results
Fair, but based off of numbers for the previous car, Motortrend got 5.8 seconds, i think CD got 5.5, 5.9 for a slightly heavier car at a worse density altitude makes sense. And the Outback xt pulls it in under 6 all day so the fact that they are about equal (and in my case marginally slower) is the part I find so interesting.
The WRX GT or Legacy XT. What your opinion?
Legacy XT for the most of the same reasons I highlighted in this video, in reality, I’d go with a much lower trim WRX 6 speed than either!
Waiting for the accord 1.5vs sonata 1.6T comparison
It might be awhile, the Honda dealer in town shot me down without even talking to me. Honda press cars are also sort of hard to come by (the HR-V was the first press car for me)
This car is the car version of my scotter particle,fun,goes anywhere,easy to drive,ok looking,comfy, but my scotter is slow
So basically, instead of getting a WRX with the CVT, you might as well get a legacy V6?
What about a 0-60 in manual mode? I'd be interested to see what it can do then. Even if not faster, it would definitely sound better and be more fun.
It would undoubtedly be slower but it would be interesting to see how much slower. Since it isn't my car, I keep my acceleration runs down to just 1, but if Subaru would give out a press car, I'll definitely give it a shot!
I have a premium SPT in ignition Red; S# mode is fun!
I just do not understand why they “choose” aggressive racing seats but keep the power plant exactly the same. So you gave me racing seats but not the power plant. Thanks Subaru 😅
Can you disable the fake shift???
Yes, just drive with the transmission in the intelligent mode or brake torque launch the car and it won’t shift (as demonstrated)
Manual cars are just not selling except for civic type r. Even Toyota is probably going to put an automatic in the next GR Corolla.
Next year I’m getting a fun daily as a self gift when I graduate. I want to be in the mid $30k’s. It’s down to:
* GR Corolla
* WRX
* Mazda3 Turbo
I feel like the Corolla will be hard to find and get marked up by dealers because of how rare it is. The mazda3 turbo is a bit more adult, which I like, I don’t care for a car that looks like a damn running sneaker. The WRX is the last word in turbo AWD small cars, but it’s not a hatchback. Which would you go with??
I'm actively selling my soul for the GR Corolla so that's an easy one for me. I see it as the WRX I wish Subaru would make again. I'm just having major difficulties with ordering one so I doubt I'll get one because I refuse to go over msrp. The mazda and the WRX are great but entirely different. The 6 spd auto in the Mazda prioritizes smooth (and slow) shifts, a premium interior, and natural steering. The WRX is much much more capable on a backroad and the powertrain is way more fun, yet less refined.
@@Realistick sounds almost like choosing between a Volvo S60 and a Civic Type R. Yeah, they make around the same power, but, come on. 😂
I’d rather have the Volvo. So I guess that means the Mazda makes more sense
@@TerryOffDairy Agreed, best of luck in your search when the time comes!
It seems like Subaru could smoke the competition if they wanted to. That car is a little pricey. Especially when you get a beloved CVT. One more thing I would like to see it... Wait you spent $75 for dinner?
It does seem like they held back at this price! And yes, before tip🥴
Worst part is the GT trim is offered with manual trans on other markets (canada for example)
Subaru has a habit of doing the US dirty
No Canada can’t even get GT with CVT. Top trim is equivalent to Limited in US
@@Kevin-jh2mr reminds me of how they work the crosstrek trims then. Very interesting.
"It sounds like I'm just complaining." Yes. Because this review was 50% complaining and 50% tepid attempts to say something nice. I have a shitload of experience with Subarus and various other AWD cars in turbo and NA form. The GT is phenomenal. I sold a 600 hp STI, so my POV is extremely relevant. In the real world the hating is never consistent. Too loud, not loud enough, too refined, not appointed well enough...non GT owners bitched for all of 2022 about great stuff we get, but then say they'd never pay for the seats, dampers, steering, Eyesight...so just WTF are they mad about? If Subaru fully optimized the CVT for speed, people would bitch MORE about the transmission (if that were possible??) Instead, Subaru built an ever-better CVT, and still, no one is happy.
Personally, I'm left feeling like it would have been best for Subaru to just cancel the WRX altogether. The sales are down pretty dramatically and the fact EVERY review sounds like it was written specifically to talk people out of buying it is likely playing a big role. Congrats.
I think Subaru just simply gave up when the Evo left the market. What do you do when your main competitor throws in the towel.
It would be the equivalent of the protagonist in the story getting to the final boss, and the Arch rival simply just walks away into the sunset. How do you continue the story?
I mean at that price point you can get the 2023 Civic Type R… I know it’s not apples to apples but at least with the Type R your getting the performance and pedigree to justify the price point.
A very valid point, the best counterargument at this point is that the WRX is a car that you can actually find!
@@Realistick regardless think I’ll just live with my 2020 Civic Si a little longer. Not winning any drag races but it’s still the funnest daily commuter I’ve ever had the pleasure of owning.
CVT will NEVER be acceptable in a sports or performance based vehicle. Subaru really dropped the ball by killing off the STi from a branding and performance perspective, but also this new WRX is a joke. They've literally destroyed the used car market for WRX. I'm seeing high mile STi's going for $60k here in Canada.
With the dollar so strong why aren't foreign cars cheaper?
you can make easy 300 HP with a new modern 2.4 L Turbo engine without any issues or problems in reliability but why Subaru why you can´t do that?
A hard question that seems to only be answered by the aftermarket currently.
@@stinkytofuz I'm pretty sure that if Subaru decides to produce a WRX STi, it would be an EV. Which was why they axed the STi sub brand anyway.
@@stinkytofuz from Subaru? 😂
Easy, that cvt cannot handle that power.
@@mofayer Subaru said, this is not a CVT 😂.
New camera otw ??👀
Sony club initiation here soon
H pattern has been played out for decades. All the top racing 🏁 have sequential or paddle. I enjoy the GT five driving modes.
Most of reviewer bring up golf - that is not for wrx, wrx is still focused capability of driving on dirt / off road, totally different car vs thin rubber boys racers cannot go thru bumps
So the 2021 model WRX could do 0-60mph. in 3.9 seconds. But this newer one that every car reviewer on YT is hailing as being better in every way from the previous one.... is significantly slower at 5.9 seconds?? I'm sooo glad I subbed to your channel. No wonder those other channels refuse to post 0-60 times for the 2022 WRX.
I've driven the 2020 wrx, it was about a quarter second quicker to sixty with a similar, more gentle launch for the manual trans (different measurement procedure). Most post refresh models put down around 5.5 with the stick and 5.8 for the auto (motortrend). The only way that would have done 3.9 is with a second wrx engine in the back😂 Don't trust watch you see on carindigo or carhp, just go off of the big names or people that actually show their runs with a timesheet and data.
Fake shifts is the dumbest idea on any car fitted with a CVT. Either learn to live with the sound and get the efficiency advantages to the fullest, or get the manual, or get another car altogether. What are these people going to do was we all turn to electric cars? Add fake shifts and sound as well?
40k plus would get you so much more else where, new and used
I just can't understand that unfinished rear bumper and flares. It just looks terrible.
LOL...now they are discounted down to $35000
My Outback Wilderness is just as fast, lol. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It actually is too, I got 5.8 in a regular XT and just made a video comparing that to the GT!
I would rather buy the Legacy XT.
99% of consumers do not care about 0-60 times. We care about passing power, comfort and economy. How is it on the track?
Then you came to the write place as I answer those and more in this video! Unfortunately, I have zero access to tracks, just some nice backroads.
😂 Ultra Instinct
The STI is the Golf R rival. WRX compares to the GTI
With no more sti and a $43k wrx (in the US), it still has to hold it’s own with the R in this kind of trim.
@@Realistick that’s a fair comment.
CVT is no bueno! 👎
I don’t understand why anyone would buy this trim 🤷🏻♂️
It's for someone who wants a responsive and high performance car for a daily driver, even if they drive the speed limit.
This bent steering wheel shouldn't be legal. How does it help when you need to make multiple turns while sliding the car. Its fucking ridiculous.
When I test drove the Crosstrek and saw paddles I felt insulted. Fake shifts are pandering to people who don’t understand the technology. Same energy as fake engine noises in some cars.
I agree in the crosstrek, in here it makes sense because their goal was to make you forget that it is a cvt. Like if you drive in sport, it goes through it's 8 "gears" as a traditional automatic.
@@Realistick IMO, they should just have fit an 8 speed automatic transmission instead of the CVT. Or they should have just left it as a manual only car like the Civic Type R and the GR Corolla which are its competitors.
@@damilolaakanni Hands down the better choice. The cvt was already in their parts bin so I'm sure it was just an easy move. At least they do give an option to people who want a WRX but have some sort of circumstance where a manual is off the table. Not offering it at all just limits the choices for some people.
I have a '21 Crosstrek Limited.
I'm not sure why the paddle shift thing is even in vehicles such as the Crosstrek. It's a 2.5 w/180+ hp, not a racer by any means. It was never intended to be a sporty crossover/suv. It's bought for safety and gas mileage, period.
I've had mine for almost a year and haven't used the paddles 1 time, lol.
@@danielfair4675 exactly. I still waited for a 6 speed though lol.
Subaru lost its way.. for a certain important subset.
i did 0 to 6 in 4.2 my best and i was at 4200 rppm
This guy 😂 he wants it to launch like if it’s a v8
Or maybe Id just like it to launch harder than a subaru forester🥴
Just get a base with spt .
Base is manual only you have to upgrade to the premium at least for the SPT
Autotragic
Waste of time
Cheap bastards at Subaru , missed opportunity for a dual clutch gearbox... After 3 Subie cars I'm leaving the brand.
CVT = 💩🤮💩🤮💩
If you purchase a performance-orientated sedan and somehow still refuse to use at least 91 octane fuel, then perhaps you should NOT have purchased a performance vehicle. Stick to the Corolla.