2022 Subaru WRX GT (CVT) - POV Driving Impressions

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  • Horsepower: 271 hp, Torque: 258 lb-ft
    Engine: 2.4 L Turbocharged Boxer 4-cylinder
    Transmission: Continuous variable transmission
    MSRP: From $42,395
    MPG: 19 city / 25 highway
    Tire size: P245/40R18
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  • @TheTopher
    @TheTopher  ปีที่แล้ว +24

    See the 6-speed manual video here: 2022 Subaru WRX Premium (6-Speed Manual) - POV Review
    th-cam.com/video/4XGofu2EF2M/w-d-xo.html

    • @TheTopher
      @TheTopher  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Completely forgot to mention that CVT WRXs have a different AWD system from the manual cars - Active All-Wheel Drive that changes torque split depending on driver input. Didn’t notice much of a difference in the real world between the two AWD setups, I’ve found Subaru’s active AWD to work great in the snow etc. on other CVT models I’ve tested.
      Here’s the best explanation I could find on it, from Subaru:
      An electronically managed continuously variable transfer clutch actively manages power distribution and ensures that the wheels with the best traction receive more power. Power transfer is governed by slippage in the clutch plates. The Transmission Control Module (TCM) controls the multi-plate transfer clutch. Active All-Wheel Drive can adjust the power split in an instant, depending on many input factors. If the front wheels begin to slip, the TCM increases hydraulic pressure on the transfer clutch, reducing slippage of the plates and transferring the power to the rear wheels. As the front wheels regain traction, the TCM reduces pressure on the clutch, increasing slippage of the plates and transferring power to the front. The TCM monitors input from speed sensors on the front and rear drive shafts and also takes input from the throttle position and the transmission. All of these factors cause the TCM to select a software strategy that determines how aggressively it adjusts the power distribution. Active All-Wheel Drive varies the power distribution according to driving conditions. When throttle input signals acceleration, the system responds by transferring more power to the rear wheels to account for rearward weight transfer. When releasing the throttle indicates deceleration, power transfers to the front wheels to enhance braking performance. The system enhances cornering performance as well. When the driver lifts off the throttle and applies the brake to enter a turn, power transfers to the front wheels for greater steering control. As the car exits the turn and accelerates, power transfers to the rear wheels for added traction.

    • @Efreet17
      @Efreet17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @TheTopher what's better choice in ur opinion: wrx cvt or elantra N automatic?

    • @maso2466
      @maso2466 ปีที่แล้ว

      AWD system is Variable Torque Distribution, not same as Multiplate transfer clutch which equipped for Subaru cars except WRX. 45% for front & 55% for rear centre differential with electrically controlled LSD.

    • @noob.168
      @noob.168 ปีที่แล้ว

      how was it driving summer tires at 41 degrees?

  • @hellokyle_
    @hellokyle_ ปีที่แล้ว +305

    "Little greasy out today. We'll be careful."
    Goes 60mph+ and redlines it on the ramp. Love it. Thank you for doing a CVT video for this car. Looks really good. Seems better than last generations w/ the CVT.

    • @MiserableAmerica
      @MiserableAmerica ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Subaru things

    • @Tomas.X
      @Tomas.X ปีที่แล้ว

      Next time: snow tires, on wet pavement. Just did a quick turn today on my tires and that was too much fun (no.)

  • @newton2105
    @newton2105 ปีที่แล้ว +641

    I’m not a manual purist by any means, but at least equip the non-manual model with a traditional torque converter automatic if you don’t want to invest in a DCT. CVTs are fine for cars focused on efficiency but don’t really belong in a car like this

    • @computerguy5437
      @computerguy5437 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Don't know why Subaru equipped the VA and VB WRX with the "high torque" cvt

    • @boomer9517
      @boomer9517 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I’ve been saying for years that the wrx and forester xt (when they were a thing) would have been great with a dct

    • @Trades46
      @Trades46 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Simple - Subaru doesn't have a conventional automatic transmissions available and off the shelf units (e.g. the ZF 8spd) won't work with Subaru's proprietary AWD setup.

    • @TimberWulfIsHere
      @TimberWulfIsHere ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Trades46 they do. Eaz4 trannies are cheap and plentiful. Subaru have even made a modified version to fit 5 gears. Knock yourself out.

    • @Vanessinha91Pucca
      @Vanessinha91Pucca ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yea, CVT = Sad Panda in a sport oriented car

  • @shad3128
    @shad3128 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    As much as people wanna hate it, subaru will expand their sales a lot on this having a cvt for the day in and out drivers and enthusiasts can still go manual. The lower trim options with the cvt paired brand new still come out pretty affordable for someone who likes the car but isnt obsessed with tuning it or the gearbox. I know a few neighbors who traded civics and FWD golfs in for these and they arent disappointed at all

  • @kasio22B
    @kasio22B ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This episode is like you just wondering around the town of Silent Hill.

  • @ROBBBIIINNN
    @ROBBBIIINNN ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love my SPT VB.I can’t drive manual due to shoulder surgery but I hate the stigma Auto car drivers are put in for liking an “enthusiast” car.I get manuals are funner but it doesn’t mean we can’t enjoy the car either.Subaru knocked it out the park with this “SPT” so kudos to them and bless anyone else out there who doesn’t feel like “getting a wilderness would be better than getting a SPT wrx” kind of a slap in the face.

  • @adamrozman
    @adamrozman ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Yeah, paddle shift response actually looks pretty decent. Was always curious to know how the CVT in these drove, thanks!

    • @CJBMAGGOT94
      @CJBMAGGOT94 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It looks decent because it doesn't actually do anything.

    • @dave_riots
      @dave_riots ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@CJBMAGGOT94 It actually does force a tiny bit more power out of the engine, but a major tradeoff is more wear on the CVT.

    • @adamrozman
      @adamrozman ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@CJBMAGGOT94 CVT shifting is pointless and just for show, but clicking the paddle in this car does correlate with a physical change in the belt of the transmission to change the torque ratio. Still responsive between the paddle and that change

    • @TimothyJavier
      @TimothyJavier ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why do you need to shift a CVT? Don't you want max RPM all the time you're full throttle?

    • @CJBMAGGOT94
      @CJBMAGGOT94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adamrozman I highly doubt they would make it do anything transmission wise. I bet its just engine tuning. CVT’s are far to fragile to handle the constant “shifting”.

  • @andreybrovkin1294
    @andreybrovkin1294 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Looks like the most responsive cvt I've seen?? What??? Looks pretty sharp, shifts look dct like! I daily a manual but this definitely is mych better than i expected or any cvt for that matter

    • @thankyou9085
      @thankyou9085 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its probably the way it is tuned and programmed my guess

    • @WreckFatal
      @WreckFatal ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah they tuned it to look like it is actually shifting gears now. In reality tho when it fake shifts it is slowing your car down lmao

    • @andreybrovkin1294
      @andreybrovkin1294 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisg5101 glad to hear!

  • @josephs1701
    @josephs1701 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I own one with a CVT if anyone has any questions. Best auto transmission I've used ever (I've only owned mainstream / nonluxury brands, but over 7). I really love this car!!

    • @khelgarironfist3301
      @khelgarironfist3301 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fuel consumption and general maintenance costs?

    • @josephs1701
      @josephs1701 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@khelgarironfist3301 Fuel consumption isn’t great, I’d say I get 17-21 City depending how I drive, and up to 26-27 on the Highway. Maintenance costs for the CVT I would factor in an additional 1k the life of the car, changing CVT fluid at a dealer will probably run you 300-400 each time. I personally recommend it at 40k/80k but some would argue that’s overkill

    • @josephs1701
      @josephs1701 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@khelgarironfist3301 general maintenance costs, only 2k miles in so I’m not sure yet! From the handbook, looks about average.

    • @khelgarironfist3301
      @khelgarironfist3301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josephs1701 well good to know. From the specs, it seems like WRX has a bit bigger fuel tank than the regular Impreza. So i'm guessing you get about 500km/310 miles of range or something. Small tanks are annoying tbh.

    • @croisant772
      @croisant772 ปีที่แล้ว

      would you say its a good choice for someone who doesnt wanna drive manual but wants to get the full experience the wrx can offer? do you feel like manual is really worth it?

  • @bcatchris
    @bcatchris ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I have an Ignition Red Premium SPT! I think its fun with all the different drive modes. I live in Ohio & the remote start has been awesome through the My Subaru App. I also put on Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4. I don't think enough people have driven this new WRX. It's a totally new transmission. This is my daily. It's perfect for my wife and I. It's a great car. The Internet Hates the CVT but in the Real Life its fine! Love this channel Topher!

    • @lilwank9602
      @lilwank9602 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just give it 40k miles for the cvt to explode

    • @TobySimone
      @TobySimone ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah CVT WRX still sucks. Way too expensive for what you get.

    • @TheCldmstrsn
      @TheCldmstrsn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was under the impression that the only trim where you could change drive modes was the GT Trim. If the other trims with an SPT gives you different modes I am sold.

    • @intellectualazzkickins5874
      @intellectualazzkickins5874 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lilwank9602 Has a 100,000 mile warranty 😉

    • @botandrew1
      @botandrew1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't listen criticism, my friend.
      If you happy what you have, be glad what you have it. Stay positive

  • @AnthonyLe902
    @AnthonyLe902 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This CVT WRX is designed for family guys who have to pickup their kids from school, buy groceries, drive whole family on a weekend road trip, and yet they still loves the looks of WRX, they love the Subaru's sport tradition, love the boxer engine without breaking their bank account by buying a Porsche, a little fun in their 9-5 daily life. No hate on the cvt though, it's literally demanded in many places outside the US. And car enthusiasts literally have manual option available. Why do people keep complaining for having more options?

  • @xelua847
    @xelua847 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I wish the WRX GT came with a 6 speed, I understand their approach trying to make it a "touring car" but man I love those seats.

    • @jdmteggy2388
      @jdmteggy2388 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yea i was hoping u could order the 6spd with those seats as like add on upgrade somthing

  • @christianvalencia6224
    @christianvalencia6224 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have a blue 22 GT WRX. The SPT in this car is phenomenal. I agree with everything he says. I drive it in sport mode daily, sport plus when I want to unlock its full power. I’ve had my car since august. Wanna drive even faster? Put it on sport plus manual mode, upshift to 2nd gear and build boost in the mid high rpm’s and FLOOR THAT SUCKER. MUCH BIGGER BOOST IN ACCELERATION.

  • @TheBigNate505
    @TheBigNate505 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Actually impressive how fast it shifts ratios. Looks like it has gears.

  • @lexbraxman9270
    @lexbraxman9270 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the interior especially that steering wheel

  • @azca.
    @azca. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutely love the CVT and would recommend it to anyone!

  • @Tomas.X
    @Tomas.X ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My MPG (GT) = 28 mpg when it was warm in September-October...and since it suddenly dropped to more reasonable cold her in Wiaconsin = 22.4 mpg. Honestly believe people should never complain about MPG if they never figure out how to get it. Hint: with the GT's adaptive cruise, I can drive nearly anywhere outside city areas with CC on and engaged, disengaging when stopping, then re-engaging. All the buttons are under your thumb. The car stays in its lane, maintains speed, and maintains following distance, but will auto-brake when needed. It is FUN doing this. I returned from Thanksgiving with family today - about 35 miles mixed driving in 35 degree/famous conditions - and used CC the entire drive. The continuous MPG tucked UP another .3, and I'm now about empty. That's phenomenal. I can do so much more with my GT and ride cush soft to sport stiff, choose steering feel, throttle response, set my own customized performance combination...and get better MPG...and except for a 6 speed slipping a clutch hard...I can do it all faster than a 6 speed. Honestly, I can't understand choosing the manual.

    • @ngpdestroyer4097
      @ngpdestroyer4097 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great share of your experience. Still leaning to the manual but the extr 2 - 3 k for SPT isnt off the table yet.

  • @garo919
    @garo919 ปีที่แล้ว

    i was literally searching for a vid about the wrx gt a few days ago and was bummed that you didn't have a video on it and now i see this on my home page

  • @maso2466
    @maso2466 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good review for showing what SPT has. I understood the recaro and adaptive damper want to have the manual model. I guess that many enthusists going to have coilovers and more aggressive backet seats. So such kind of high trim manual shold be limited share.

  • @westleyvanzant
    @westleyvanzant ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Crazy how close this is priced compared to the new Type R now that its own price is revealed. Despite costing so similarly, it's really wild how much the Type R and WRX have diverged in target demographic etc. In the last generation they seemed to be far more directly competing with each other.

    • @austinobambino1360
      @austinobambino1360 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Alex WRX had 60-100 more horsepower than the Si lmao, not competitors and no reviewers would ever suggest that. WRX and Type R were direct competitors.

    • @remasher
      @remasher ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are still competition, it's just that this one is priced for idiots.

    • @ks-bg5uk
      @ks-bg5uk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Alex But this isn't a standard wrx...it's a GT. The options available make the GT high priced. Weather people think its too much or not doesn't bother Subaru.

    • @DragonKnightX12
      @DragonKnightX12 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Alex The GT cost the same as the new CTR, both MSRP for $44k. That’s what the OP was getting it.
      Not sure why you think the Si is direct competitor though. It’s in the class below the WRX with the Jetta GLI, NA Mazda 3, and the super budget KDMs. Maybe could of argued the coupe vs the crappy Gen 1 BRZ. The upcoming Impreza RS would be a Si direct competitor, but the Gen 2 BRZ blows the Si away.
      WRX was always at least on level with the GTI, Mazda 3 Turbo, and Focus ST.
      Which I would argue the former are still its direct competitors.

    • @elenchus
      @elenchus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DragonKnightX12 People have considered the WRX and Civic SI direct competitors since the WRX’s introduction to the American market. You can find hundreds of major magazine comparisons over the years between the WRX, SI, GTI and various other, less permanent, options like the Focus ST, Cobalt SS etc. The Civic SI is usually down on horsepower yet often wins these comparisons based on other factors; the segment cannot be reduced down to simply horsepower. Most car reviewers (for whatever that’s worth) still prefer the new Civic SI to the new WRX, although both are pretty well loved.
      That said, the STI and CTR coexisted (in America) so briefly that I’m not sure I’d consider them historically competitive…I can’t speak to how people in Japan viewed them.

  • @viper2131
    @viper2131 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So I ended up with one of these, ask me a year ago when it was revealed that I would had gotten it and I would had laughed. Coming from a Si, ND2 and VN manuals it’s definitely not a bad CVT. The Subaru cvt ( I hate cvts) has come a long way. We had a 14 impreza cvt and it was just ugh, then an 20 outback and it was definitely an improvement. Now a Forester Wilderness and it’s definitely improved. This one is not horrible, wish it was a DCT but it’s shockingly not terrible. Now check an Integra CVT and that is absolute trash.

  • @A_guan
    @A_guan ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the best cvt I've ever seen. If manufacturers put this cvt in all their cars and other econoboxes I wouldn't hate them as much

    • @WreckFatal
      @WreckFatal ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a good cvt but a cvt isn’t good lol

    • @davidlake611
      @davidlake611 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it fakes shifts, “shifts” early and doesn’t keep at the redline, why not just put in a torque converter and avoid the enthusiast hate??

    • @A_guan
      @A_guan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidlake611 my thoughts exactly. I still wouldn't buy this because I know it's a cvt and I'd probably have to leave it in sport mode all the time

    • @A_guan
      @A_guan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WreckFatal agreed. Cvts are still terrible don't get me wrong. Manuals are way superior

  • @rileylewis5.0
    @rileylewis5.0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:00 of course the fusion is changing lines to the right with his left turn signal on 😂

  • @stephenandirenel9786
    @stephenandirenel9786 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I've had a crosstrek and forester both with CVT for several years. Had driven Golf R's DSG and the BMW's ZF 8 speed. Got the new WRX SPT / CVT recently and honestly their CVT has come a long way. The simulated shifts in S and S+ modes in auto or manual mode are quick and responsive, very much comparable to DSG but not as violent as the ZF. It's a good handling car with a rigid chassis and good power. My major gripe about the new WRX is the poor fuel economy in city driving...I'm getting 14.5L/100km in "i" mode (Canada)

    • @detaart
      @detaart ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's horrible fuel economy lol. I'm getting 6.1L/100km in mixed driving in Belgium from my mx5. Considering Belgium is just basically one big city, i'd say that's pretty good.

    • @dopplepopoulis
      @dopplepopoulis ปีที่แล้ว +6

      lol the CVT is not close to the DSG in the R in any way. How fast the simulated shifts are is meaningless, since they do nothing. And that fuel economy, which is the main reason for using CVT, is awful.

  • @JulioHernandez-ow3ve
    @JulioHernandez-ow3ve ปีที่แล้ว

    This TH-cam update godly

  • @yoshikobayashi7643
    @yoshikobayashi7643 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    VA STI owner here, that is more "mature" (54). I wanted a WRX S4 like they have back home in Japan but they did not have them here, so I bought the STI since I live in the US (Happy with my purchase). However, If I were going this route, I think I would rather get an Outback XT, as you said, more room, more comfort, more luxury, less money and equal performance (couple tenths of a second difference but if you're getting the CVT tenths of a second don't mean that much to you)

  • @trentonjohnson4600
    @trentonjohnson4600 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My only thing about this car… 3k more… You get cooled seats DCT heads up display controllable awd system and a engine that can really handle tunes. A golf R makes so much more since imo. Also a lot more power. Forgot to add that.

  • @kristialstafa5391
    @kristialstafa5391 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a 2022 subaru wrx premium cvt, and as a european who was grown with manual, i admit, that i love my automatic subaru, fast, responsive, it's perfect, much better than the manual one

  • @R1S0.
    @R1S0. ปีที่แล้ว

    i love that steering wheel with real matte buttons...i love those clean easy to read analog gauges.... i love that blind spot monitor on the body of rwm instead of mirror iself.... overall interior design despite that tablet.... at least there are buttons for temp and defrost.... i love alcantara seats ( no matter the form, no leather), i dont mind that cvt with fake shifting.... without that it would be a no go.... and all that extrea good subaru stuff as a bonus... i really like this car.

  • @TalonV9
    @TalonV9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was watching these in my car with my Air pods pro. Spatial audio had me tripping out cause it sounded so real

  • @Mike_Hartman
    @Mike_Hartman ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A dual clutch auto would be great. Though not sure it would be worth it to them for just one trim line of one model.

  • @TheCldmstrsn
    @TheCldmstrsn ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I think its just good to have options. With my back issues I can no longer get a manual car, so I really appreciate having the option to get an automatic. You can also turn off all beeping noises in the settings. Honestly really thinking of the getting the Limited WRX with the SPT for the softer seats and not pay so much.

    • @cargdrac
      @cargdrac ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it's not much of an intrusion, what are the aspects that you avoid in a manual to discomfort your back?
      I recently developed a disc hernia and have been a little afraid to get a sporty manual car. I went to test drive this year's model, and they only had it in CVT, suspension was firm but good enough, but I felt there was something wrong with the brake of that demo car since it was the hardest I've tried. Salesman assured me it was fine but it was nothing compared to the previous generation.

  • @armandocardona6975
    @armandocardona6975 ปีที่แล้ว

    This transmission is pretty good! Just test drove one

  • @codenamev99
    @codenamev99 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got the limited one with manual transmission few weeks ago and im happy with it

  • @88Studio
    @88Studio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That shoes clap tho XD

  • @boxer4engine
    @boxer4engine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That "SPT" looks impressive with the virtual shifts. MT will still be the gem for enthusiasts. If they can somehow apply that SPT to their other big sellers like the Crosstrek and Forester Subaru can be the CVT king

  • @IraqCB186
    @IraqCB186 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool startup

  • @SirCherbs
    @SirCherbs ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As someone who has driven auto trucks my whole life and is finally able to buy a sporty car (I needed a truck for work but have a corporate job now) the WRX GT was really appealing. I have bad knees (particularly the left) so daily driving a manual simply isn’t an option for me. I’m really glad to see that the CVT in this car seems like it would still be fun for me, and better than previous iterations.
    It still cracks me up that so many people shit all over auto/cvt sports cars, particularly the WRX. As if Subaru, a multi-billion dollar international corporation, cares what a few redditors and youtube commenters think. You don’t like it? Fine, don’t buy it then. This trim clearly caters to an older demographic with a little bit of money that wants to have some fun on the way to work, while still having modern assistance systems like lane keep and ACC as standard with the trim level. I would consider something like an Audi S3, but I do a bit of driving on unpaved roads, so seems like a bad call.
    The only thing that is really putting me off is the uncomfortable Recaro’s. Seems like an odd choice to be standard on the more mature GT trim level.
    Thanks for the informative video Topher!

    • @KingCobra_45
      @KingCobra_45 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I traded in my 2018 legacy for the GT and I didn't want a manual. Knees,Traffic, and no eyes sight was a no go for me. I've had the car for five days now, and I'm happy with it.

    • @dopplepopoulis
      @dopplepopoulis ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't want a manual either, and manual snobs are tiresome.
      The problem is, some of the competition has good autos or DCTs. CVT is the worst possible transmission option for a car like this.

    • @kimmyymmik
      @kimmyymmik ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha you nailed it. I’m a mom with a 10 year old and a 9 year old, I didn’t wanna drive a mom car anymore so I got this and it’s perfect. My kids love it! I don’t need anything more 😂

  • @rusher38
    @rusher38 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Honestly, the CVT looks like it "shifts" quicker with the paddles than some TC autos. For a balance of engagement and comfort, it doesn't seem that bad. It looks responsive enough to take to the track and to work the next day.

    • @dreamernawid
      @dreamernawid ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It’s quicker because it literally isn’t doing anything other than making the owner feel better about buying a sports car with a CVT.

    • @WreckFatal
      @WreckFatal ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah when it shifts it is actually slowing the engine down to make you feel like you have a regular auto transmission. Not helping the car at all it’s actually slowing you down

    • @ks-bg5uk
      @ks-bg5uk ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@WreckFatal The numbers say other wise. The GT is actually faster than the manual from 0-60.

    • @WreckFatal
      @WreckFatal ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ks-bg5uk not saying that the CVT is slower than the manual I’m saying that by taking shifts it is wasting it’s time. Would be even faster if it weren’t trying to act like an automatic transmission

    • @ks-bg5uk
      @ks-bg5uk ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@WreckFatal The manual has proven to lose track time during shifts. The CVT is actually faster than the manual in short distances like a 0-60 time.

  • @laithali8004
    @laithali8004 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re the man

  • @bmwmsport11
    @bmwmsport11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The real question is: is there lag between drive/reverse?
    That was the absolute biggest issue I had with my Subaru CVT. Trying to do a 3 point turn or backing out of a spot was enraging when you tap on the gas and nothing happens

  • @KuppionOG
    @KuppionOG ปีที่แล้ว

    man new car with CVT whine already lol gotta love it

  • @CommuterAndCoffee
    @CommuterAndCoffee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If it wasn’t so pricy I’d consider it just wish they still made it with a hatch…. Pizza vino is 🔥 btw. Love the cool spots in southeast Michigan you go to in your videos.

  • @normaspirated
    @normaspirated ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So for an extra

  • @jimmmyz169
    @jimmmyz169 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:19 Edit: A pull is always my first curiosity before I can enjoy more relaxed content :D

  • @initialgm
    @initialgm ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Factory ordered a WRX GT a month ago, I'm excited for it even though the CVT is controversial. Appreciate the review since there's not too many on here for the GT

    • @christianvalencia6224
      @christianvalencia6224 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I placed an order back in march. Arrived August. 10000% happy with this car. You’ll love it!!

    • @initialgm
      @initialgm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christianvalencia6224 Actually picked it up 2 days ago, absolutely love it so far. No regrets at all

    • @christianvalencia6224
      @christianvalencia6224 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@initialgm YAYY!! Welcome to the 22 WRX FAM 🤙🏽🤘🏽

    • @initialgm
      @initialgm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christianvalencia6224 appreciate it bro!🙏

  • @kevinnz617
    @kevinnz617 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think one thing you could've talked about was how the cvt can also come with the lower trims so then it only costs 2k more than the manual counter part not 10k.

  • @canadious6933
    @canadious6933 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know, my next car might be a wrx cvt, but after hearing about the upcoming impreza RS, it would be a very close contender. Oh the options are nice for me

  • @williamlong2682
    @williamlong2682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m working part time as a service valet at a Subaru dealer here in Seattle and surprisingly I’ve actually seen a few CVT WRX’s come in. I guess there’s some subset of people, however small, that just like the “vibe” of it without wanting to shift for themselves. Wouldn’t be my personal choice, don’t get me wrong, but I guess Subaru figures better to have some automatic than none at all 🤷‍♂️

    • @santospinedacastillo4725
      @santospinedacastillo4725 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's my daily driver and I live in a trafficky and manuals are a pain to drive here; fun enough and the eyesight system is life changing.. I'd rather play with a project manual for the track to get my gear rolling fix.

  • @bbarnard91able
    @bbarnard91able ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Was about to buy 22wrx but last minute changed mind to a new legacy xt. Still has the 2.4t but more space and comfort. I’m happy with it.

  • @shoichihatada4574
    @shoichihatada4574 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing!!!

  • @cmasupra
    @cmasupra ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found the Limited too stiff. Does the GT in comfort suspension mode feel luxurious? If so, I may have to wait for Subaru to put the adaptive suspension in a manual trim. Either that, or get an Integra for cheaper, though I prefer the shape & exterior of the WRX.

  • @technochook
    @technochook ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mans out here in silent hill test driving cars

  • @jimmyglea
    @jimmyglea ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He keeps saying $43,000, but the OTD is just a hair under $46,000. Totally worth it IMO.

  • @tylerc4229
    @tylerc4229 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Haven't seen it in person, but that black clading around the wheels makes it look like it was built in the late 90's

    • @brandondannys-menary3678
      @brandondannys-menary3678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hated it at first, now I love it since it won’t get paint chips on gravel roads. Looks overall are growing on me as well

  • @Trades46
    @Trades46 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nobody would willingly put in a CVT in a sport sedan. This car is a product where the product managers and engineers had to compromise to make a car at this price point with what Subaru had in its parts bin to sell to a larger audience which would have never considered a WRX if it was only offered with the 6MT (yes folks these people actually exist).
    Seems like this 2nd gen VB with the CVT (sorry Subaru, I meant "SPT") is better tuned than the prior VA with the FA20 with the CVT. Sounds like it is a good choice if you really can't or won't drive a manual, but then again the torque limit of the CVT meant mods would be far more restrictive than the WRX 6MT.

  • @tfeltmat2903
    @tfeltmat2903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The last passenger car I bought has a manual because the only other option was a CVT. I know that as time goes on, CVT's will get better. But the last thing I need is to overpay for a car (nowadays) and then have to spend $8000 on a new transmission about the time that it's paid off. You can't repair a f'd-up CVT, you have to replace them. So until CVT's reliably have the same average lifespan that a traditional torque converter automatic has, I'll always give them the stink eye.

  • @tellyawhatmate
    @tellyawhatmate ปีที่แล้ว

    Test drove this exact model today. (I own a 2018 STI)
    Think its recieved a bad wrap because people are hoping for a raw high performance AWD.
    Its not a WRX, what it is, is a really comfortable, quiet, mid range car. The cvt was responsive and a huge improvement over last gen. Super comfy and would make a great daily if u have something fast tucked away.
    I would not buy this with the hope of modding.

  • @Teddingtin
    @Teddingtin ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The fact that they lock so many enthusiast options behind the CVT just makes no sense…

  • @Allcarnews
    @Allcarnews ปีที่แล้ว +33

    For a “CVT” …. it’s dare i say impressive? The “shifts” are pretty fast even if it’s just a change in ratio of the pulley.. nonetheless for what it is i think it’s great. Still manual tho

  • @heazy87
    @heazy87 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is the WRX compared to the new integra interior space wise and ride height? I felt like i had to pull myself up to get out of the integra is the WRX better?

  • @tonyzhu403
    @tonyzhu403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would actually have to thank the Subaru Team for pushing me to purchase and drive a Manual Daily.
    If the WRX was offered with an Amazing Automatic, the story might be different.

  • @alengreen589
    @alengreen589 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subaru gave everything to build a Amazing new WRX and thats the result of it.

  • @todapower818
    @todapower818 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the fact that the cvt has the auto blip Rev match when you downshift.

  • @EctoPlasmic
    @EctoPlasmic ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Topher, I'll still pass on the WRX. Sticking (and still waiting) for my GR86. lol.

  • @jkandybar
    @jkandybar ปีที่แล้ว

    100% agree on the seats. I sat in a GT at the dealer. Way too much bolstering, hard as a rock, and uncomfortable. I’m 5’10”, 165lbs so hardly a big dude. The limited seats are super comfortable.

    • @KingCobra_45
      @KingCobra_45 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im 6"3 240 and I've driven track cars and bikes. This GT reminded me of the track somewhat. Besides I traded in my legacy for it and the seats are the fist stand out, but no schedule long road trips anytime soon

  • @user-rm7yb9yh1p
    @user-rm7yb9yh1p ปีที่แล้ว

    Subaru interior looks like an airplane cockpit, looks cool and fun to drive
    Subaru was originally made by a manufacturer called Nakajima Airplane, so the people who designed and built fighter planes at that time made cars, so I think the driver's seat resembles the cockpit of an airplane.

  • @runneralpha6274
    @runneralpha6274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me and girlfriend have the manual and cvt 2015 and we drive the cvt always in "manual" mode and we suprisingly drive the cvt the most, after 120k miles the cvt and motor still rock solid. For us the only way to drive the cvt are in manual mode and in all the reviews we watch nobody try the "manual" mode like you 😂

  • @aptkeyboard3173
    @aptkeyboard3173 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not offering adaptive dampers on the stick shift was a mistake in my opinion. I would’ve gone up a trim level if that had been available lol

  • @jimmmyz169
    @jimmmyz169 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's a big ol' auto stick in the middle. I thought the days of those would be over by now, lol

  • @wicked8118
    @wicked8118 ปีที่แล้ว

    CVT in this car is better than any Nissan or hybrid CVT. Game changer! I hope to see this trans in other Subarus.

    • @WreckFatal
      @WreckFatal ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope to see CVTs go extinct

    • @wicked8118
      @wicked8118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WreckFatal They aren't going away, so this is better than what they currently offer.

  • @seanrmccoy
    @seanrmccoy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've warmed up to the new WRX quite a bit. I think the play is to hold onto my '21 WRX for a few years and see what they do with the refresh on this. If they can bring the adjustable dampers down to a manual model I'd jump on that in a heartbeat.

    • @amador4417
      @amador4417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats on still holding a what is considered rare now 21 WRX, I want to love the new gen but it's just the back that slaps me. I might just have to look at used STI/WRX until maybe they re model it hopefully.

  • @WillemVerb
    @WillemVerb ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So weird of them not to offer the nice seats, suspension etc in the manual. Feels like they're punishing the enthusiasts who really want to buy this car, and probably want the manual.

    • @ks-bg5uk
      @ks-bg5uk ปีที่แล้ว

      They do offer nice seats in the Limited manual cars.

    • @KingCobra_45
      @KingCobra_45 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can have nice seats In the other trims ,but nit the Recaros 😂

  • @ThePatriots010304
    @ThePatriots010304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 2021 WRX Limited CVT and the only way to drive it is in sport or sport + in manual mode with the paddle shifters.

  • @Hamsterz380
    @Hamsterz380 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Though it’s a CVT, the engine actually sounds pretty good

  • @Juan_Carlos_2003
    @Juan_Carlos_2003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! Is the suspension too stiff for daily driving with family and children?

  • @carljohnson7
    @carljohnson7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I never understood the hate of CVT but if the person buys a sport car with auto auto transmission then more power to them I guess, I can see why companies are adding them to their lineup, not a lot of people don’t drive manuals anymore

    • @snail415
      @snail415 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m a Civic EX-T owner of 5 years, and have the CVT. I’ve owned 6 manual cars and can row with the best of them. I don’t miss it much. The right engine paired with a well-programmed CVT just works better than most will ever admit. Sure I could use better throttle tip-in, but that’s nothing on the transmission and can be resolved with a tune. No regrets for me.

  • @Zipfei_Kloatscher
    @Zipfei_Kloatscher ปีที่แล้ว +5

    YES! Finally a nice and beautiful CVT on a WRX! I'm so super-pumped for this, I can't even express my joy! 😀😀😀👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @chadminor2360
    @chadminor2360 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious as to your opinion on this WRX and the Mazda3 Turbo sedan. The Mazda is about $8000 less expensive.

  • @Nice-wf2xd
    @Nice-wf2xd ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick question so if I got the base model with the cvt it’s the same as this but without the extra goodies and adaptive dampers right but I still get the sport mode and stuff like that?

    • @Alex-Kelly
      @Alex-Kelly ปีที่แล้ว

      i’m pretty sure you’d still get sport mode. My limited trim CVT has three drive modes: Intelligent, Sport, Sport #

  • @iWallyMont89
    @iWallyMont89 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been waiting for this review!!

  • @pherylihy58
    @pherylihy58 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subaru should have given us the option to add the recaro seats to the limited trim.

  • @renzylbutel735
    @renzylbutel735 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a 2022 wrx cvt, i just want to let people know that if u want a cvt you can get it in the base model if you dont want to spend 40k+ i got my wrx for 31k msrp it had all the eyesight feature.

  • @VQ25DETT
    @VQ25DETT ปีที่แล้ว

    It would have made perfect sense to bring the Levorg here with the same powertrain combo.

  • @gabechannelyt8470
    @gabechannelyt8470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did anybody notice the C8 corvette in the side view mirror at 11:43

  • @vntamed700
    @vntamed700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should put a DCT in a WRX. Would be pretty competitive.

  • @bbbt8090
    @bbbt8090 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All this needed was a true DCT or ZF 8speed like in BMW's

  • @plightn
    @plightn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is the outback wilderness better insulated from road noise? Would you say the WRX CVT is better tuned than the Wilderness?

    • @TheTopher
      @TheTopher  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes and yes 👍

  • @brandondannys-menary3678
    @brandondannys-menary3678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My brother and I are wanting to both get one (I’d get a base model manual, he’d get the cvt)
    Overall this seems like a perfect all season daily for the northwest

  • @whatsindansgarage2542
    @whatsindansgarage2542 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cvt is such a deal breaker. Mazda 3 GT is the choice. Cvt is not bad but definitely not suit for a type of car that is designed for enthusiasts.

  • @bakedbean67
    @bakedbean67 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to mention that you can order the base wrx with the SPT (CVT) it's $1,850 option

  • @ozarkaviation
    @ozarkaviation ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is what the Integra CVT should be like

  • @Jump-hb6rc
    @Jump-hb6rc ปีที่แล้ว

    Listen for someone who’s 5”5 I seriously love Subarus. There’s something about their drivability at moderate speeds that gets me saving for one 🥸

  • @andrewbruns9509
    @andrewbruns9509 ปีที่แล้ว

    It seems like a DCT or a traditional torque converter like the ZF 8-speed would bring the automatic version of this car to a different level. I don't understand how an automaker could put a CVT with an engine like this. The engine deserves better.

  • @wardellward
    @wardellward ปีที่แล้ว

    They totally reinvented the 2022 Subaru WRX

  • @SandViper94Gaming
    @SandViper94Gaming ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with other comments. At least add a DCT... The one in the i30ns is phenomenal!!

  • @igoresque
    @igoresque ปีที่แล้ว

    5:52 are rear lights not required to be on in such low visibility conditions in US? Those cars just appeared out of nowhere, scary stuff.

  • @Arcrobes
    @Arcrobes ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn’t the GT have the same wheels as the premium and limited? I though just the base got different wheels.

  • @HeyHiHello90
    @HeyHiHello90 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do the cvt’s handle power?

  • @1209MArky
    @1209MArky ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Over 40k idk why anyone would get this over a Golf R or GR corolla assuming MSRP