Tuning The 2022+ Automatic (SPT) Subaru WRX | What Are The Limits?
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- Tuning The 2022+ Automatic (SPT) Subaru WRX | What Are The Limits?
I discuss the horsepower and torque tuning limits of the CVT or SPT or automatic 2022 Subaru WRX and automatic 2023 Subaru WRX. So if you are considering a Subaru WRX GT, or the GT model VB 2022+ Subaru WRX, then watch this. Especially if you are considering tuning the 2022 Subaru WRX GT.
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I have now owned 4 new Subaru WRX, 2 manual and 2 CVT and next week i take delivery of my new 2024 WRX CVT.. The Subaru CVT Auto i have found to be just brilliant in heavy stop - start traffic situations, and excellent for highway driving with our long distances here in Australia. I have never had any issues with either transmissions.. BTW all my cars are driven with respect and serviced when due at my local Subaru service dealer 👍 Au
Great video and infos man. Few years ago we did a test on the cvt max, was about 370ish whp and 350tq. Beat it up tuning and tracking cvt gave up but dug deeper into some components inside was able to revive it 2x. Replacing some parts as well internally. You're right a lot of the internal components are weak and were made like near non-serviceable. Hope to link up w you. Nice car too!
This video has been proven wrong. Good amount of people have been making 300-325 whp and 350 wtq with no issues for a months. Even Graham of Boosted Performance has stated the CVT in the 22+ VBs feels stronger and tighter. Don’t know of anyone who’s broken down yet either. Sure you’re not gonna want to go full bolt ons and go mod for mod like on the manual but the VBs seem a LOT better when it comes to tuning.
I’m at 17.1 psi on my SPT and it really goes
Ended up getting a premium cvt, have a COBB with the stage 1 OTS tune. What have you done with yours and hows it been holding up? Its hard to find info on the SPT lol
Also how do you drive your SPT wrx? I am pretty light on it as Im pretty scared to bust the CVT or something
I would love to see a cvt breakdown!! I currently drive a 2018 WRX premium CVT with about 65,000 miles on it and it hasn’t had any issues…. Yet. I’ve kept it stock for now and I’m not sure if I will add any power mods.
What are your thoughts on a 2023 premium CVT WRX for $37500 OTD after taxes and fees? I'm looking for a daily alongside my S2000, lookin for AWD and some decent fun with modern amenities. I test drove the manual WRX with the STI short shifter and wasn't the biggest fan. Looking for an auto cause I'm sick of driving manual in stop and go traffic lol.
I like manual for play and automatic for daily. Since I only see these cars as rally cars I’m not looking to go absurdly high anyway. I drive an automatic 23 limited as a “daily”, living in New England and the North East, it works just fine when I’m in the city or when we have snow for a daily. My computer reads an average 18mph. A manual isn’t fun in dead stop and one ways.
Level10 transmissions in New Jersey can get the CVT to hold 700hp !
I’ve heard the weak point is the torque converter and not the actual internal workings of the SPT. Is that true? A built torque converter may fix this concern?
Hello can you make a video on mods that can be done on a CVT WRX for example tmic, charge pipes, intakes! Would be very helpful!
I am actually avoiding a video like that to avoid liability - I made one for the VA and people were all over me even though I was clear - do at your own risk
22 VB cvt here and I’m running OTS stage 1 93, Mishimoto intake, Remark cat back, cobb charge pipe, and Grimmspeed TMIC. S# every now and then but I try to keep it in S or I. 17.9 peak boost it’s absolutely lovely to drive
Did you do a part 2 on your algo sale? The transporter is 20 min away and I need to make sure I’m not getting scammed. Lol
It was pretty seamless!
Hello and congratulations for the channel, I wanted to ask you who are an expert on WRX. . But is the clutch pedal really that hard on the WRX? I would like to buy a used 2017. .
No it's one of the easier manuals to drive, go for it!
@@AutoEnthusiast Thanks man, you are very kind to answer me.
All I want is a 300 hp daily, that looks cool too, also the new Porsche gt3r is SVT as well, it they’re doing it, im comfortable with Subarus.
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Love your video? What if I you upgrade the headers, mid pipe, jpipe do you think cobb ots map would work for these mods on 2022 cvt? Or should car be tuned on a dyno? I think taking through a dyne might cause to slip the cvt.
Need to protune that, but I wouldn't do headers tbh. Maybe not even a jpipe, you won't be able to actually use the power from it. CVT will max out with just an intake + tune, and a catback.
That sucks but thank you for your feedback you are the best.
@@AutoEnthusiast I understand. What if I just do headers and jpipe and high flow air filter with a tune you think cvt will be able to handle that ?
Hello! I was really on the fence about the new WRX as everyone I talk to about it tells me not to buy it for not just one, but two laundry lists of reasons. If it is alright to ask, would you recommend a brand new base WRX (I need a twisting key and NOT push button start) or an older WRX that may be higher mileage or out of warranty? Thank you for your advice
Grab a new one with a warranty if you don't plan on tuning, and vice versa if you plan on tuning maybe go for a VA. But for sure both the VA and VB are great options!
Thank you for this video. Do you think a dual clutch could be put in one that could handle more hp 🤔
Subaru will never make a dual clutch unfortunately
@AutoEnthusiast subaru never really gives us what we want . I am questioning if about dual clutch swap to replace the spt transmission. Yes, that would be very expensive, but so is building a high hp subaru if it is built properly .
Subaru needs to study the Formula1 race cars that used CVT that outperformed any manual and automatic gear boxes. CVT was banded because it destroyed the competition of gear boxes. It would be awesome to have those put into daily drivers.
Except the CVTs Subaru uses aren’t even close to those, hell the VA cvt is dog shit honestly. SPT may be slightly better, but I mean they changed the name for a reason.
I read that information about formula 1 cvt. they used very high quality parts in that cvt transmission it was able to handle 1000 hp or something. Reason why cvt is garbage on passenger cars is because it’s made from cheap parts
The biggest issue i have with the SPT, is they have the Aisin auto from the BRZ Why not that? No fancy amount of coding will help a CVT in a performance based setting.
That 6 speed is most likely not capable of running the AWD system without a redesign.
@@deving3370 there were is350's with awd that had that tranny so i dunno if it can't handle a subie awd. So it is a definite option for the wrx instead of the lame cvt we have.
It can't really be made to fit with Subaru's AWD system.
If you search up a picture of what the drivetrain looks like when its all mocked up, it should become very clear. The layout is unique to Subaru's cars.
Oof yikes this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about at the end. The SPT isn’t being made to build a community, it’s the only option even put in the JDM version. This car was designed to have the SPT from the ground up.
Correct! I'm guessing that's why the GT is a SPT transmission ❤
I have a base 23 cvt. I get 28 mpg currently and it’s great for a daily. I don’t plan on any mods and I’m just a casual car enthusiast.
Have a limited 23 wrx. With bolt ons. About 300/300 at wheels. Averaging about 24/25.
You guys must have a light for and never let on the gas! Are you always driving in intelligent mode?? I average at about 16 mpg!!
I’m
Always in S mode or s#… I just like taking off quick lol
The manual isn't convenient for my life with city stop and go driving (and a wife that cant dive a stick). I really do like the feel of the CVT but my next wrx will be a manual and not a daily driver.
Waiting to get mine drove manual whole life but a tad worried
It's still a fun car!
Meh, Most of the Bad rep Subarus get, is because of irresponsible tunes and part addings, that was traded in and sold to a new owner that receives the brunt of the engine problems. Our own worst enemy. If you just left the car how it was, drove it for what it is, its great for what it is at such a price. Meanwhile other companies sell you a $50,000 3cyl turbo with the same level of interior plush. Just go for the 261hp Audi A4 45 TFSI (used -> equal price point $35k for 5kmiles current) at that point, but have fun paying for that out of warranty... WRX still remains a win for working young people.
I wonder if you trash the CVT transmission if you can swap it for the manual transmission...
Time for STI trans swap lol
It costs WAY more to manual swap a CVT than it would be to just buy a manual, either by trading yours in or selling it. I think it’s been done, but it’s not economical; bc you can trade in your car on one and spend 1/3rd the price
If I have a manual transmission can I build my transmission to make it stronger or do I need to get a sti transmission?
It really depends on what you are planning to do, do you plan to build the motor?
But to say it, beyond a clutch and flywheel, you can't do anything to either transmissions for the most part
@@AutoEnthusiastworth mentioning even though I’m a little late, while I’m not 100% on if they make them for the new wrx 6 speed, you can get dog engagement gears by ppg for older wrx 5 speeds, will just cost a pretty penny and whine like a racecar, but it sounds pretty cool imo, maybe not for a daily though haha.
I would totally buy a performance upgrade for the SPT if it meant I could add more power (i.e. upgraded clutchpack, solenoids, transcooler, upgraded internals, etc.).
For now, I like the idea of ~300 whp ~300 wtq on a 3500lbs vehicle with a stock transmission. It is my daily commuter for snowy/wet weather climate.
Getting the front and rear spoilers added, plus a nice paint job for the plastic above the wheel wells is nice.
Also, I am kinda upset about the brake options, as they also only go with the manual transmission without active dampening etc. "WTB Brembos" lol
Either way, I have my cammed N/A 2006 Charger RT for the 1/4 mile that no Subaru can compete with mod for mod. Going to be building the Dodge's engine with Stroker kit with Forced Induction Cam. I am going to try with Turbo setup versus Supercharger (already upgraded transmission, torque converter, driveshaft, suspension for this) but we shall see (Gunna be expensive)...Already can't pass inspection as is :D so why not?
I'm planning to do an Ascent brakes swap on mine after the warranty is over, they're pretty much plug and play. EBC rotors for the accent looks pretty good, and I'll probably also paint the brake calipers with that upgrade
What can I put in mine to make it hit 300 hours and 300 torque?
Maybe just a tune, if not intake and tune
Jb4 Burgertuning
Intake
I don't get why Subaru won't use a regular torque converter automatic instead of the garbage and weak cvt. Hell even freaking KIA has made a DCT for the Forte GT like cmon Subaru wtf
DCT are expensive to design and just because a car has a DCT doesn't mean it's good. The DCTs in the Kia/Hyundai line up are cool and function great on stock power, but hold less power diff's than the CVT in the Subaru. A good DCT in a high end sports car is different, but the DCT costs as much as a Kia or Subaru lol.
DCTs are really on good with race cars.
What Subaru needs to do is make a deal with ZF or Toyota to get a conventional auto modified for their AWD.
I’ll race anyone with Manual trans with my SPT stock of course,you might beat me but I have an excuse,you miss a gear then you’ll go home with one huge bruised ego.
lol I like the sentiment, not sure gears can be missed anymore though, but altogether there can be a lot of driver error
Idk those pro tunes making some crazy power
I physically can’t heel/toe with a fused right ankle and have a bad left knee. Everything on TH-cam seems to be pointing towards the Golf R DCT, but the WRX is so much cooler. It’s nice to hear the transmission isn’t garbage, but it seems to be a hard plunge when the whole community can’t get over the manual lol