the most engaging day i ever had with foxhole was the third day i ever started playing, i spent literally 9 straight hours doing nothing but loading artillery shells in a pit with this regi i wasn't even part of, and eventually people were shouting me out for being a dedicated loader and always being on the spot and keeping the guns singing. eventually i got a crash course in socializing because i had to go out to the road and direct the trucks and crane operators saying "we need those shells up here, can you move this pallet to the side so we can get more in here, okay can you guys get this truck out of here so we can unload more pallets", etc etc. At one point we started getting hit with counter battery fire and we had to rapidly break down our entire nest, pack it onto trucks, move it across the road to a spot further up the river, unload the whole thing and start over. It was all really tense and dynamic and we pulled together and had a great time with it, spirits were high, i got invited to the regiment. Come back the next morning to find the entire beachhead we spent all day defending, fell overnight, and the whole base the regi had been operating out of had been lost, so we said fuck it, regrouped in a totally different part of the map and decided to just try doing some boat stuff--this was the war right before the naval update dropped so we wanted to get some practice with boats so we could be ready for it. War 106 or 107 i think; i don't recall cause i haven't played in a long time. Spent a couple weeks doing backline logi, learning mining and refining and shipping mechanics, ran a lot of supplies to the frontline, eventually got everyone together to build a half-dozen gunboats, got everyone packed in and loaded up, drove ourselves in a straight line up the river to do some recon and strike some potential targets on an island. Crossed the hex border, immediately ran into a pod of enemy gunboats who were waiting on the far side, fed ourselves directly into their broadsides one at a time. Utter chaos, people getting trapped by loading screens and then immediately dying, every single gunboat was lost with all hands. Literally never saw another person speak in the regiment's discord server for the entire rest of the war, seemed like the entire faction up and ragequit the game in a single night. And then the wardens went on to win the war anyway so all of that suffering was utterly meaningless in the big picture of things. I went back a few times to the discord and sent some messages in general like "hey what are we doing for this week" "anyone around?" "hello?". Total silence. So i'm left at the end of it with this feeling of just "what did I do all this for?". Like, why do I play video games at all? At least in EVE online when your corporation dies and all your assets get lost, you can just like, move across the galaxy, pick a new home system and start your personal career from scratch. In Foxhole, the wars *end*. So it feels like you either used your time productively, or everything you did was a waste, with very little middle ground. It's the reason I've hesitated even as a friend of mine has asked me if i want to try again for the planes update. I don't know how to get over that feeling of wasting my life when there's such a rigid pass-fail, victory-death dichotomy in the end state. I at least want something to show for all my efforts when I lose everything to circumstances beyond my control, and I really don't know how to get it from that game. Very existentially depressing.
I absolutely understand that sentiment and I don't know if what I'm about to say will help, but.. Sometimes it can be frustrating to work hard one day and see your progress "stopped" the next. But, if they pushed back in a day, that means they can't always build up to a meaningful degree. To use your EVE example, it's true, wars end in Foxhole. But that's the "starting over" part you mention. I would strongly encourage moving away from this pass-fail system of thinking: enjoy every kill you get in the moment, and every new experience you learn. Also, it sounds like you had some kinda shitty clanmates to just up and leave the game after one failed battle. My regiment is a small veteran group, maybe five or six that play most days. Because we've seen and experienced almost every part of this game over the years, we decide on a random "focus" for each war. Sometimes, it's only using the light tank chassis, other times we are entirely partisan-based. By choosing a different play style each war, we're given goals and dedicated roles within the larger (Colonial) force. Our metrics for fun and enjoyment morphed from "man, I hope we win this war four to six weeks down the line" to "how can we get the absolute most out of what we're doing RIGHT now?". We drive Icaruses with pocket Ignifists, support tank lines with half-tracks, and experience the whole game slowly and intentionally. I guess my big point is try to focus on what YOU'RE doing, not whether it says "victory" or "defeat" at the end. That helps me with the existential depression you mention. And hey, if you're ever looking to jump back in, add me on discord! solidanimal is the tag
i so honestly get this. i'm a long time vet who's been taking a break for college and i found rather than overall victory for your faction, is to dedicate yourself/clan/friend group to a single objective. taking a town, capturing a relic base, getting rid of a BB complex, etc etc. just detaching yourself from the win/lose condition could help you have more fun. lose whatever "condition" you set? there's always the next town/bb/relic to fall back to, and the next town/bb/relic for you to retake. it's a lot less painful when you only lose a town rather than a whole war. an example of this was in war 75 when stonecradle got nuked and the entire town was basically ruined. originally i wanted to defend stonecradle, but then it became material evacuation when i realized it was going to fall within the hour. i nabbed some PTEs and CPLs and gave them flatbeds and the most valuable loot from the seaport and told them to drive it to ogmaran to the north. i then spent the rest of the time trying to manning an artillery pit in an abandoned clan BB. we fired shells on the bridge until nades were literally being lobbed into the pits from below. i still look back on that war as THE best moments i've had in foxhole. the key for me was just changing my personal objective so that i never technically LOST, i just had to change goals. at least that's how i justified it in my head
Damn you're lucky, you could've been banned for touching their shells without asking permission from the Don, or whatever cooky shit some regiments seem to be on these days.
@@redknight100 well and it's absolutely possible for me to just focus on being an infantry man running around and getting random kills on the frontline and shrugging my shoulders at every death and just treating it like a twin-stick horde shooter, but the thing that sold me on the game was the prospect of collaboration and teamwork. I wanted to be Tom Hanks in *Greyhound*, shouting out commands to the crew on the boat. I wanted to do gunnery drills and operate sonar rigs and say lots of numbers and abbreviations cause that shit seems badass. Maybe that's an unrealistic expectation, but the boat mission going to shit in the manner it did was kind of like this sign from god that i'm never quite going to get what i want out of the game. I anticipate the same thing is going to happen with this planes update. It would be different if i maybe could get like a badge for participating in the war that i display on a profile if anyone cared about that sort of thing. It's hard to justify it on the basis of memorable stories when i have like, one actual friend who plays this game with me. Otherwise my every attempt at socializing or making new friends is either getting involved with regis--and boy do i seem to only get involved with shitty regis--or it's getting team-killed by players with chinese names because i parked my truck in the wrong place or mined from their Rmats field without submitting the proper approval forms.
@@engineergaming8695 for me it's totally the opposite feeling, like, my faction won the war. In a lot of ways, the thing i did with the artillery pit probably was a significant contribution to the victory we had in that war. But none of the faction i joined stuck around for the whole thing, so nobody but me remembers doing that, and I have nothing to show for it to prove that this story is even real if i wanted to tell the story to anyone else. I made a contribution, and a big one, I invested my time, and I can't see where the products of my investment went because I'm just one guy loading shells in one part of the field. Like, the thing of "there's always the next bunker to fall back to," is true, in theory, until there *isn't* the next bunker to fall back to.
I don't know if anyone els is annoyed by it but. In the video you said everything dies. Which is unfortunately not true. TREES CANT DIE. IT DOESNT MATTER IF YOU SHOOT A NUKE AT ONE THEY DONT DIE.
First part of this video is why I decided to run my hauler. Most of the time I'm not getting shot at in theory. Unfortunately the front I'm working is apparently manned by folks who don't think establishing a line with security is important, cause we keep losing iron junction to the logi lines being cut off. And when you tell the guys at the front when you finally manage to get through to them that they're being cut off they do nothing about it.
great video and reminder to take a break from the game when mental insanity start hitting, unless if you're trapped in the void of msupps maintenance which is the worst thing you could experience in game also 5:11 nice callout, i'll add it in the callout menus
I don't think you have to necessarily restrict yourself from playing with vehicles. If you want to, you should! I really encourage new players to join a regiment so you can have the opportunity to play with tanks, navy, and soon planes. Experienced players will teach you and you can participate in fun operations.
At some point, one have to ask. If you can yourself a "Gamer" and play only CoD, you're not a "Gamer" Me I'm just a bit burn out on gaming. Many want money but most are not respect my time. I can feel that creep to my wallet
Planetside does have some amount of faction saltiness, but its all about balance junk, not really any straight up hate cuz bro is purple or red or blue. More along the lines of vet players that have long history of game versions and balance changes that are salty af
Most importantly; dont do logi, you might just go to a public resource depot, take the public resources and transport the public resources, and you'll be teamkilled again and again, followed by a mass-report from a random regiment, because it was 'theirs', even though the mines are public. Looking at you BadAimBen.
one time i parked my truck in the wrong place next to a factory because i didn't understand the proper etiquette because it was my first week in the game, and a player went around with a series of tripods while i was afk in the bathroom, and set the tripods up in a rectangle around my truck so that I couldn't move the truck or get out of it and i just had to respawn and lose the entire truck I spent all that time building. The sheer intensity of the griefing in foxhole is unlike anything i've ever seen in an online game. your own faction is a significantly greater threat to you than the enemy.
5:10 But no one heals me unless I scream m'dic at the top of my lungs. -He said running past (and away from) multiple medics. One soldier can't carry the war by thenselves, but they could start the wave that ends it. For either side. Now I WAS NOT there when the old nukes where written, so grain of salt. There's regiments (clans/guild) that are happy to teach and point you in (what they think) is a useful direction. Obviously not everyone can agree in what that is, but that's kinda the point of the game. Some start you on trench digging, ither just throw tanks at people. Depends on the war and timelines. You can play solo, but you can't play the front line like a single player game. A dozen guys rushing defences with grenades gets further than one guy. You might be able to ambush a tank, but unless you really know what you're doing a group of armor will simply outlast you. If you don't feel comfortable using 'the good stuff' cause youre not worthy or you think you'll waste it. Just scavenge stuff from bodies. If it isn't used or picked up in 10 min it despawns. Someone else alreasy wasted it. If you don't know what to build or dig, ask better players if they want a hand. Repair damaged stuff. Until you get a few ranks, some players may not want to explain their base. May suspect you of being and alt (playing for other faction) or troll. Just like now. . . this time typing could've been spent defending. Is this video a collie psy-op? Seen stuff like this in world chat, and I do wonder if the paranoia is true ir just an act. Anyway, if you've made it this far, have fun. You can learn as fast or as slow as you want. Foxhole IS A GAME. You can play it...and you're supposed to enjoy yourself.
@remuluson2904 I mostly agree, but you can't disable w. chat without picking a single chat or just closing it. Region or Logi would be the winners depending on roll, but then the newvs are trained to ignore Intel. We should just be able to pick what chats to or not to load, but we just got map search so baby steps.
Even 4000 hours in one of the best things to know is: ISG is bs and will out perform even direct counters to it, just find another front once collies spam 50 of them
Yeah my bad was going to place it on the main channel at first but I don't want to put low effort content on there so switched it to here. That's why the outro is a bit off 😅
the most engaging day i ever had with foxhole was the third day i ever started playing, i spent literally 9 straight hours doing nothing but loading artillery shells in a pit with this regi i wasn't even part of, and eventually people were shouting me out for being a dedicated loader and always being on the spot and keeping the guns singing. eventually i got a crash course in socializing because i had to go out to the road and direct the trucks and crane operators saying "we need those shells up here, can you move this pallet to the side so we can get more in here, okay can you guys get this truck out of here so we can unload more pallets", etc etc. At one point we started getting hit with counter battery fire and we had to rapidly break down our entire nest, pack it onto trucks, move it across the road to a spot further up the river, unload the whole thing and start over. It was all really tense and dynamic and we pulled together and had a great time with it, spirits were high, i got invited to the regiment.
Come back the next morning to find the entire beachhead we spent all day defending, fell overnight, and the whole base the regi had been operating out of had been lost, so we said fuck it, regrouped in a totally different part of the map and decided to just try doing some boat stuff--this was the war right before the naval update dropped so we wanted to get some practice with boats so we could be ready for it. War 106 or 107 i think; i don't recall cause i haven't played in a long time.
Spent a couple weeks doing backline logi, learning mining and refining and shipping mechanics, ran a lot of supplies to the frontline, eventually got everyone together to build a half-dozen gunboats, got everyone packed in and loaded up, drove ourselves in a straight line up the river to do some recon and strike some potential targets on an island.
Crossed the hex border, immediately ran into a pod of enemy gunboats who were waiting on the far side, fed ourselves directly into their broadsides one at a time. Utter chaos, people getting trapped by loading screens and then immediately dying, every single gunboat was lost with all hands. Literally never saw another person speak in the regiment's discord server for the entire rest of the war, seemed like the entire faction up and ragequit the game in a single night. And then the wardens went on to win the war anyway so all of that suffering was utterly meaningless in the big picture of things. I went back a few times to the discord and sent some messages in general like "hey what are we doing for this week" "anyone around?" "hello?". Total silence.
So i'm left at the end of it with this feeling of just "what did I do all this for?". Like, why do I play video games at all? At least in EVE online when your corporation dies and all your assets get lost, you can just like, move across the galaxy, pick a new home system and start your personal career from scratch. In Foxhole, the wars *end*. So it feels like you either used your time productively, or everything you did was a waste, with very little middle ground. It's the reason I've hesitated even as a friend of mine has asked me if i want to try again for the planes update. I don't know how to get over that feeling of wasting my life when there's such a rigid pass-fail, victory-death dichotomy in the end state. I at least want something to show for all my efforts when I lose everything to circumstances beyond my control, and I really don't know how to get it from that game. Very existentially depressing.
I absolutely understand that sentiment and I don't know if what I'm about to say will help, but..
Sometimes it can be frustrating to work hard one day and see your progress "stopped" the next. But, if they pushed back in a day, that means they can't always build up to a meaningful degree. To use your EVE example, it's true, wars end in Foxhole. But that's the "starting over" part you mention. I would strongly encourage moving away from this pass-fail system of thinking: enjoy every kill you get in the moment, and every new experience you learn.
Also, it sounds like you had some kinda shitty clanmates to just up and leave the game after one failed battle.
My regiment is a small veteran group, maybe five or six that play most days. Because we've seen and experienced almost every part of this game over the years, we decide on a random "focus" for each war. Sometimes, it's only using the light tank chassis, other times we are entirely partisan-based. By choosing a different play style each war, we're given goals and dedicated roles within the larger (Colonial) force. Our metrics for fun and enjoyment morphed from "man, I hope we win this war four to six weeks down the line" to "how can we get the absolute most out of what we're doing RIGHT now?". We drive Icaruses with pocket Ignifists, support tank lines with half-tracks, and experience the whole game slowly and intentionally.
I guess my big point is try to focus on what YOU'RE doing, not whether it says "victory" or "defeat" at the end. That helps me with the existential depression you mention. And hey, if you're ever looking to jump back in, add me on discord! solidanimal is the tag
i so honestly get this. i'm a long time vet who's been taking a break for college and i found rather than overall victory for your faction, is to dedicate yourself/clan/friend group to a single objective. taking a town, capturing a relic base, getting rid of a BB complex, etc etc. just detaching yourself from the win/lose condition could help you have more fun.
lose whatever "condition" you set? there's always the next town/bb/relic to fall back to, and the next town/bb/relic for you to retake. it's a lot less painful when you only lose a town rather than a whole war.
an example of this was in war 75 when stonecradle got nuked and the entire town was basically ruined. originally i wanted to defend stonecradle, but then it became material evacuation when i realized it was going to fall within the hour. i nabbed some PTEs and CPLs and gave them flatbeds and the most valuable loot from the seaport and told them to drive it to ogmaran to the north. i then spent the rest of the time trying to manning an artillery pit in an abandoned clan BB. we fired shells on the bridge until nades were literally being lobbed into the pits from below.
i still look back on that war as THE best moments i've had in foxhole. the key for me was just changing my personal objective so that i never technically LOST, i just had to change goals. at least that's how i justified it in my head
Damn you're lucky, you could've been banned for touching their shells without asking permission from the Don, or whatever cooky shit some regiments seem to be on these days.
@@redknight100 well and it's absolutely possible for me to just focus on being an infantry man running around and getting random kills on the frontline and shrugging my shoulders at every death and just treating it like a twin-stick horde shooter, but the thing that sold me on the game was the prospect of collaboration and teamwork. I wanted to be Tom Hanks in *Greyhound*, shouting out commands to the crew on the boat. I wanted to do gunnery drills and operate sonar rigs and say lots of numbers and abbreviations cause that shit seems badass. Maybe that's an unrealistic expectation, but the boat mission going to shit in the manner it did was kind of like this sign from god that i'm never quite going to get what i want out of the game. I anticipate the same thing is going to happen with this planes update. It would be different if i maybe could get like a badge for participating in the war that i display on a profile if anyone cared about that sort of thing. It's hard to justify it on the basis of memorable stories when i have like, one actual friend who plays this game with me. Otherwise my every attempt at socializing or making new friends is either getting involved with regis--and boy do i seem to only get involved with shitty regis--or it's getting team-killed by players with chinese names because i parked my truck in the wrong place or mined from their Rmats field without submitting the proper approval forms.
@@engineergaming8695 for me it's totally the opposite feeling, like, my faction won the war. In a lot of ways, the thing i did with the artillery pit probably was a significant contribution to the victory we had in that war. But none of the faction i joined stuck around for the whole thing, so nobody but me remembers doing that, and I have nothing to show for it to prove that this story is even real if i wanted to tell the story to anyone else. I made a contribution, and a big one, I invested my time, and I can't see where the products of my investment went because I'm just one guy loading shells in one part of the field.
Like, the thing of "there's always the next bunker to fall back to," is true, in theory, until there *isn't* the next bunker to fall back to.
good first tipp, avoiding maximun tilt xd
Yeah true
I think this is the most therapeutic footage + good vib talk I've seen in all of foxhole video
More to come, currently thinking about making it weekly thing
xD ill unpeal your banana keep it up ward wardenson
I don't know if anyone els is annoyed by it but. In the video you said everything dies. Which is unfortunately not true. TREES CANT DIE. IT DOESNT MATTER IF YOU SHOOT A NUKE AT ONE THEY DONT DIE.
First part of this video is why I decided to run my hauler. Most of the time I'm not getting shot at in theory. Unfortunately the front I'm working is apparently manned by folks who don't think establishing a line with security is important, cause we keep losing iron junction to the logi lines being cut off. And when you tell the guys at the front when you finally manage to get through to them that they're being cut off they do nothing about it.
great video and reminder to take a break from the game when mental insanity start hitting, unless if you're trapped in the void of msupps maintenance which is the worst thing you could experience in game
also 5:11 nice callout, i'll add it in the callout menus
Haha I actually do use that call out 😅
I don't think you have to necessarily restrict yourself from playing with vehicles. If you want to, you should! I really encourage new players to join a regiment so you can have the opportunity to play with tanks, navy, and soon planes. Experienced players will teach you and you can participate in fun operations.
Really like the content, but it could use some more engaging gameplay; good luck man
At some point, one have to ask. If you can yourself a "Gamer" and play only CoD, you're not a "Gamer"
Me I'm just a bit burn out on gaming. Many want money but most are not respect my time.
I can feel that creep to my wallet
use tanky and attack island to island for long term survivalbility
You forgot to mention the community is extremely toxic.
Planetside does have some amount of faction saltiness, but its all about balance junk, not really any straight up hate cuz bro is purple or red or blue.
More along the lines of vet players that have long history of game versions and balance changes that are salty af
Hmm ait thx for letting me know ❤
It’s in other games like WoW, horde and alliance.
Most importantly; dont do logi, you might just go to a public resource depot, take the public resources and transport the public resources, and you'll be teamkilled again and again, followed by a mass-report from a random regiment, because it was 'theirs', even though the mines are public.
Looking at you BadAimBen.
one time i parked my truck in the wrong place next to a factory because i didn't understand the proper etiquette because it was my first week in the game, and a player went around with a series of tripods while i was afk in the bathroom, and set the tripods up in a rectangle around my truck so that I couldn't move the truck or get out of it and i just had to respawn and lose the entire truck I spent all that time building.
The sheer intensity of the griefing in foxhole is unlike anything i've ever seen in an online game. your own faction is a significantly greater threat to you than the enemy.
Blueberry
5:10 But no one heals me unless I scream m'dic at the top of my lungs.
-He said running past (and away from) multiple medics.
One soldier can't carry the war by thenselves, but they could start the wave that ends it. For either side. Now I WAS NOT there when the old nukes where written, so grain of salt.
There's regiments (clans/guild) that are happy to teach and point you in (what they think) is a useful direction. Obviously not everyone can agree in what that is, but that's kinda the point of the game. Some start you on trench digging, ither just throw tanks at people. Depends on the war and timelines.
You can play solo, but you can't play the front line like a single player game. A dozen guys rushing defences with grenades gets further than one guy. You might be able to ambush a tank, but unless you really know what you're doing a group of armor will simply outlast you.
If you don't feel comfortable using 'the good stuff' cause youre not worthy or you think you'll waste it. Just scavenge stuff from bodies. If it isn't used or picked up in 10 min it despawns. Someone else alreasy wasted it.
If you don't know what to build or dig, ask better players if they want a hand. Repair damaged stuff. Until you get a few ranks, some players may not want to explain their base. May suspect you of being and alt (playing for other faction) or troll.
Just like now. . . this time typing could've been spent defending. Is this video a collie psy-op? Seen stuff like this in world chat, and I do wonder if the paranoia is true ir just an act.
Anyway, if you've made it this far, have fun. You can learn as fast or as slow as you want. Foxhole IS A GAME. You can play it...and you're supposed to enjoy yourself.
Don't read world chat. You will just lose IQ from the amount of dumb crap.
@remuluson2904 I mostly agree, but you can't disable w. chat without picking a single chat or just closing it. Region or Logi would be the winners depending on roll, but then the newvs are trained to ignore Intel.
We should just be able to pick what chats to or not to load, but we just got map search so baby steps.
Even 4000 hours in one of the best things to know is:
ISG is bs and will out perform even direct counters to it, just find another front once collies spam 50 of them
Arcane reference. Also how am i first?
Bro, I'm sad but happy that the show ended. Truly peak!!!
@wardwardenson it really truly was. Now we wait another 3 years for them to make another show
Do 3 push ups per death
Lmao literally READ A BOOK
You got less than 600 subscribers?
Yeah my bad was going to place it on the main channel at first but I don't want to put low effort content on there so switched it to here. That's why the outro is a bit off 😅
+1