Flossing Salmon and Poor Fish Handling - Don't Be That Fisherman! | Fishing with Rod
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- Flossing salmon is done by hooking the fish without enticing it to bite the hook. Some see it as snagging and an unethical practice. Whenever there is flossing, there usually also is poor fish handling practice on fish which have to be released. This video shows many examples which I filmed recently along the Vedder River in Chilliwack BC Canada. Do better!
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The whole reason I started doing educational videos this year is to teach people that there are better ways that this. I'm glad you're addressing this. I went and watched this at Tamihi for about 15 minutes, saw many foul hooked fish and 2 chum and a wild coho dragged up on the rocks.
Here in Norway that footage is valid as proof and if handed over to the proper authorities all those guys would get fined and removed from the river for shorter or longer time depending. We have C/R quota of 3 pr day in my local river and if you break it you are not allowed to fish the next 2 seasons plus you get a nice sweet 800 USD fine on top of that. And it works....
Snaggers and poor fish handling continues to get worse and worse each year, the worst part of these clowns dragging fish up on the rocks is that they have a net behind them....use it!!!! Videos like this help newbies learn to spot bad fishing practices and not to copy them....there are still lots of good people on the river but I wish there were more law enforcement officers out there to help remove/slow down this poor behavior....keep up the good work Rod!!!
sad part here Rod is the fisheries officers are lacking in sufficient numbers, and seem not to have the balls to enforce the laws if they are present when this happens, obviously someone can video these people, phone it in, and let the officers take over, but if they dont show up it doesnt work, this is the break in the chain, it is way too present in this fishery and officials seem to turn a blind eye in general, and i'll be the one to say it, these guys will claim they cant speak English if approached, without a doubt, now throw in the Ukrainians who claim not to know English when they successfully poach fish here in Canada, its a joke, Fisheries and Oceans behind trudildeau are too woke to care
In regards to flossing, i get how it can be unethical. But some people are there purely to harvest fish for food. If they are handling the fish properly and keeping them in the water before release, i think its alright. These fish get pressured on the ocean and lots get major injuries from nets and other wild life.
What the DFO should do is implement mandatory fish handling/identifying educational videos (have it in several languages) that must be watched on the DFO website before you can pay/prince your angling license. That way no one can say they "didn't know" and claim ignorance.
Unless the river is all hatchery fish they should just shut them down at this point. The fish are having enough struggles to get up the river and spawn let alone going through the gauntlet of nets and then lead and hooks. They should be home free once they get to the river
Flossing is a nice way of saying snagging and it’s why I won’t fish for salmon like that. Shoulder to shoulder in unison looking for a snag 😂
My friends and I went to Tamihi Creek Bridge last Monday and tended to fish for some coho salmon. When we reached the bank, we found everyone there was snagging the fish. They used very long leaders (at least 6 feet) and naked hoods. Because the stream was very fast and lots of rocks over there, we believed that it was not easy to fish using the right way. and snagging the fish was not the way we wanted to do. So, we left immediately and did not step into the river. Another story that I want to share happened in early October. During that time, the water level was very low, and most of the salmon preferred to stay in deep water. Below the Keith Wilson Bridge, there is a pool and many spring salmon were rest there. To be honest, the pool was very small. However, there were more than 10 Vietnamese encircled the pool, and the distance between them was less than 5 feet. When the bobber floated to the right position, they just snagged. No matter whether the bobber was down or not. As a result, they always had "fish on" (almost every 2 minutes would have a fish on). However, 100 meters downstream of the Vietnamese anglers, there were also about 20 anglers fishing for spring. No one had any fish on. Because they were fishing but not snagging.
Seen this disgusting fish handling at the kitimat river. People pulling up oversize springs up onto the rocks and allowing the fish to beat themselves to death while they get their tape measures out. I'll always go up and offer my net to these guys and just mention that they gotta be keeping these fish in the water until they determine if its legal or not.
Thank you Rod, thank you so much for making this video. I live in northern California and i'm constantly batting people over this topic. I get so frustrated watching all the people around here who think flossing is a legit style of fishing, i constantly tell them that just because its technically legal. Does not for a minute mean its ethical. This lifestyle of salmon and steelhead means that we bear responsibility on helping conserve this resource that we all love. These fish are not just fish to people like myself and i'm sure you, these fish are what gives my life fulfillment, along with my family, i live for chasing these fish. And like i say just because flossing is technically legal, doesn't mean it isn't wrong to do. Half the fun of chasing these fish is exactly that, the chase. Catching them and then harvesting them is the bonus of the trips. Enticing these fish to consistently bite and what method you chose to master is the goal. I'm a big drift fisherman and love bouncing the bottom with either roe or shrimp, nothing better then that bite. Learning this bobber technique the last few years as well. I'm not just a salmon and steelhead fisherman, i live for these fish and the places they bring us. Unfortunately my government and policies have almost wiped out the fish, so years we are allowed to fish for them and they have shown up the last thing anyone should be doing is going down and flossing fish just because they can.
Thank you Rod for another Vedder River salmon fishing educational video on this controversial topic. As someone who has fished the Vedder River for more than 40 years I am disappointed in the lack of overall fishing standards and etiquette by a large number of anglers. The more "anglers" that practice these methods the more it enables new anglers to follow their approach. The fact that there is no shame or even hiding this approach tells me that it is more accepted than we think. This past fall I fished a number of locations one (that was not even isolated) was visited by 4 DFO officers. Out of the 20 or so anglers in this location the officer mentioned they found 4 people without licences and 2 individuals with fishing infraction - one having killed a Spring salmon without a recording form. There are not enough DFO officers to patrol the river to mitigate bad behaviour nor can we expect legislation to yield good behaviour. My hope is that as anglers we will take it upon ourselves to self regulate fishing standards and etiquette in a responsible manner. This should also be coupled with heavy fines and confiscation of gear and licence suspensions. This may seem to drastic to some however the ship sailed on allowing talking. What is needed is COLLECTIVE ACTION.
I’m glad you are calling this activities out! I’m from Spain, where we don’t have the privilege to fish so much salmon as in BC. Simply the preservation came too late. Keep doing it and showing new anglers how to do it. Because most of times I found out that they do wrong things simply because of lack of knowledge! Great videos!
I’m glad you made a video and called this out Rod. It has been going on for far too long, another thing is the severe lack of enforcement in the Fraser Valley. Such a shame..
Very educational video. Thank you for sharing this Rod.
This is awesome! Love knowing and the knowledge before i venture to the vedder or any other fisheries!!
BRAVO ROD for speaking up! The problem is the relationship between fisher and quarry. Fish are NOT resources NOT groceries. They are living creatures. Master hunters, fishers, outdoorsmen have a near spiritual relationship with their quarry. They admire and value their lives and show respect for their kill, which are consumed and become part of their own living body. Flossing isnt sporting and poor handling is BAD. Tailing fish, gripping and grinning, using roe are also OUTSIDE the values of this kind of sportman.
Thanks Rod, Great to hear from like minded, fishery conscious people. I feel bad enough when I accidentally foul hook that the idea of doing it on purpose sickens me. Thanks for helping to educate those that need it.
Fished Lake Michigan for years. Discusted by the snagging I witnessed. Went on my dream trip to Alaska. They take snagging to a whole new level. Pretending to "fish" but really snagging them in the mouth. At least we're upfront about it here (where it's still legal).