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Is recommend using larger size braid (40-50lb) for float fishing. It will float better, because it's thicker. This creates less drag on bobber and makes mending line much easier. 40-50lb Power Pro braid will still cast fine since it's about same diameter as 10-12 lb. Mono. Hi vis braid also makes line management much easier. You need to be able to see where your line is to mend line and keep a drag free drift.
Awesome video. An additional option to enhance the bead presentation is to add a tuft of yarn, scented or not, to the egg loop, or hang a row sac off of the hook. Got my first steelhead on that one. With the bead this gives an additional option and provides a touch of scent of its own..
For line I highly recommend 40 pound braid since you can guarantee you leader breaks so you don’t lose your bobber and if you get it in a colour like yellow it is highly visible making line management much easier
I like thicker line as well as it’s easier to manipulate and see on the water as well. A caveat is the size of your reel and of course, how much pressure it’s set on the drag so you won’t break your rod. Thanks for sharing your thoughts 💭
@@megapix2425 the idea in using thick braid is to make it easier to work with and more visible. IMO the thinner the braided the easier to tangle. I believe 40lbs is too much. I use 20lbs bright yellow.
Great videos really enjoy them. I've started using the B-n-R 32mm soft beads here in Anchorage, Alaska with good results, the coho love them. Catching more fish not having to always put more salmon roe on after landing the salmon and not messy.
I have been holding my rod with my right hand while using a right handed baitcaster ever since I can remember and switching hands has never been an issue. Just natural for me. I have found that I can't use a left handed reel because I have no control over it. When fighting a fish it seems to wobble in my hand.
been using beads and soft plastics for decades, welcome to the party. little late tho'. prefer hard beads on rough bottom soft on easy bottom. i use a revo toro winch on kings sst 11'6 for the rod. 20llb izor line
Have you ever considered changing out to a power handle for your reel? I always felt very underpowered when using those double paddle handles. The power handles makes a huge difference
Thanks for all the great information Rod. I'm so pleased to have found your channel last season and to be a subscriber. I also had great success with the soft beads....and I also shop at First Light. Steven helped me get started with pole fishing for carp. He's a wealth of knowledge. Thanks again.
Congrats on the new reel and fishing like a normal person. I'm only kidding 😂. First time my cousin introduced me to beads I didn't believed they worked. Now I use them all the time. They work great.
Hey Rod, quick question regarding writing down your catch on your license. To my understanding that you must write your catch on your license for springs. I see alot of fish being kept, but never see anyone write there catch on there license. I've heard of people getting fined for not doing so. Is there a size limit that must be recorded and possibly if hatchery springs mut be wrote on your license and only 10 per license yearly? Can't find any videos in regards of this. Thank you sir, and keep up the great work
Awesome video for setup and FINALLY you are using a left handed reel. :P You should learn how to tie an FG knot, mainline (braid) to a section of fluro (10-15-20 foot section) to the weight/ swivel and the leader/ hook. Knot goes through the guides smoothly and if you do break off you can have a pre-tied float as a backup and retied in a few minutes.
Yes! Actually, there was fair amount of eggs from the fish in my last video and I gave them to another angler who wanted to use bait. I was thinking afterward that I guess I could have used them for sushi! 😆
So I got a question rod for bead fishing, where is the bead supposed to be?? Let's say I'm fishing a seven ft deep hole and my leader is 2 ft. Where should I be setting my float depth so I can get my bead to where it needs to be? Is it supposed to be free drifting above the bottom? Or is it supposed to kind of roll down river on the bottom?
I've been waiting for this vid. Thanks Rod!. We deal with selective gear rules in Washington state. So it dose get hard to have hook up's. Any good fishing advice.. I'll take! 👍
Thank you so much, Rod! I'm new to Chilliwack and will be looking to get into salmon fishing next Sept.... any shop you recommend in the area that carry this gear?
Fred's Custom Tackle (this is your Shimano/G.Loomis dealer), Pacific Rivers Outfitting Company and Chilliwack Dart and Tackle carry all the terminal tackle needed.
Yes, I actually have been using tunsten sliding weights at times and really enjoy it. As for whether it makes a difference on catch rate, I haven't really noticed much.
the bigger your weight and float, the more leader you need in clear water, in super low clear water like the vedder is now, i go all the way up to 24" leader.
Good video, as Austin said though as well I would highly recommend using atleast a 30 pound braid or 40 some guys even run 50, it will help a lot with keeping line off the water, easy to mend and floats better than 20 will.
ive seen many people just putting some white wool into their baitloop without a bead or roe and catch more salmon than people fishing with beads. they seemed to be just fishing normally with a float too, not flossing. is white wool better than beads?
My fish started with the straight pink or pearl pink this year, but the last bunch have been back to mottled cherise again... Lol Another great vid Rod. Bring on the coho!
They’d work awesome for bull trout and rainbow trout! We used to fish beads for bull trout at the tail end of the salmon season and they usually go crazy on them.
One other question , I use brand new Shimano curado 300 for bobber and egg / beads fishing . But seems like the line doesn’t go out smoothly I have 2 vbs on and spool tension normal as other bait casting reel . manufactures said free spool but seems not that smooth as I wish . Is My spool tension too tight ? But I don’t want to get bird nest at casting neither , any suggestions ?
Hey rod, does this setup work for spring/summer chinook? And for the beads, I've only been able to find hard ones, I was wondering where I could get those soft beads in and around Vancouver.
The setup should work for all chinook salmon. These are BnR soft beads - bnrtackle.com You should be able to find them at all tackle stores across the Lower Mainland right now.
Hi Ryan, so the fall chinook salmon are primarily white. It's a transplanted stock from Harrison River. Why exactly the % of red chinook salmon being caught in the fall appears to be increasing nobody really knows, but there are ongoing projects investigating this at the moment.
Hi Rod, love your content! Was wondering for the beads, it comes in all sizes. What size should I use? Is it depending on the water conditions (dark? Clear) and type of water (slow? Fast). Much thanks!
I think I'm gonna have to leave those for everyone to try out because it's kind of individual's preferences. Personally I have had success with 12 and 14mm. Others have tried bigger but they just seem so unnatural. Motted cerise, pink, red, orange have been the ones I caught fish on last year. I haven't experimented enough to know what in fact works better under certain conditions.
Wow Rod, I really admire your stash of rod and reels. I wish i had one too but wifey prevents me from getting mine hahaha. all I got is a $5 rod from walmart and an old old spin caster that wants to retire already. I enjoy your videos. More power!
When I get home later today, I’m going to measure it! 😆 This video is filmed with a wide angle lens so whatever is in front of me would look bigger than it actually is lol. Thanks for checking it out! 😄
Great vid rod. Do you think that there is a difference between a baitcaster and centerpin reel and does it make a difference in the drift and do the fish care manly coho, chinook and steelhead
Pros and cons for each for sure. A good centerpin reel like the Islander Srteelheader provides a smoother drift, where as baitcasters don't really produce the same free spooling advantage, there is always a sight resistance. Baitcasters on the other hand, are way more efficient due to the high gear ratio. This means you can cover waters more effectively.
For for a rod, you could just get a cheaper model like a Shimano Clarus, or even look on FB Marketplace to see if there are some old models for sale (Shimano Convergence). For the reel, my advice is to jump in and invest on a good one right away. Cheaper ones simply don't spin well, and can break after awhile. Islander Steelheader is no cheap, but it's pretty much bomb proof. If taken care of, their resell value is pretty high if you end up not wanting to fish with a pin setup.
Hey Rod, I tried these before watching this video after they were suggested at the Harbour Chandler store in Nanaimo, the setup I m ade was almost identical to yours the only difference the 35 gr float! I was at the Somass first light this Sunday and tried these non stop from 6.30 am to about 1.30 pm, different spots and a lot of casts, I managed to get a small coho but nothing else, fish wouldnt even have a look at it, and they were there lol! I also tried putting scent on them but nothing. I really wouldnt want to get discouraged from this method as I really liked the aesthetic aspect of it as you also mentioned, so what would you think was the reason for no bites?
Defects! 😆 Actually, I was hoping to test these beads out on the Somass this month but I've committed to too many projects as usual. It should work, but sometimes one particular presentation just doesn't work on some days. I've also heard from others that the bites were hard to come by last weekend at Somass, so it could just be the fish that day...
@fishing with rod , great clip as always! Was wondering if this brood enhancement is going to be a regular event or just a one timer ? Also , do they do this to the Chum fishery too ? Thanks
The chinook hatchery program is permanent. Without it, these two runs would just disappear because they’re not native stocks. The doubling of the productions should go on for a few more years.
Hi rod , I been looking for regulations and I cant find the actual regulations for fishing Chinook in Cheakamus river , is there some opening ? what are the rules regarding this river and this specie of salmon ? I hope you can help me , I looked on your website but it is not mentionned.
Hi Frank, chinook salmon fishing is closed for the Cheakamus River. The regulations are found at: www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html When the species is not mentioned in the river system you are fishing, it is closed to fishing including catching and releasing.
Hello! Im new in Canada , I live in BC langley , I would like to know if you could recommend places that you could fish from shore that need to do some hikes to have beautiful lakes. Thanks!
Hey Rod great video .Just wondering are those re-purposed broccoli elastics keeping your rods together when broken down lol.If so i do the same .I have a bunch in a drawer at home use them all the time .
I just buy hair ties from the dollar store or Walmart for holding rods together lol, the one without any sort of metal band on them to prevent scratches and such, they work equally well and don’t dry out like rubber bands can,
@@wadepitcher2211 yeah my girlfriends always looking for her hair ties too, I couldn’t bring myself to take hers haha, just got myself some and now she takes mine 🤷🏻♂️ funny how that works lol
How are you setting float depth when fishing a bead? Does the bead suspend at the level of the weight or does it sink down below in a vertical presentation?
Pretty much the same as if I’m using roe, but maybe a bit shallower. I find the density of these soft beads is a bit higher than the hard beads, so they don’t suspend as much which is great. This means less swaying of the leader when being drifted. I like mine to be suspending a foot off the bottom. Fish don’t seem to have a problem chasing them down. Last year, I even had one coho grabbing it while it was being retrieved! 😦
@@xplicitfishin I have done this because that’s what everyone suggests in all the videos I see, but when I looked on the water my bead was dragging on the bottom well below the strike zone?
@@xplicitfishin my bead was literally not even an inch off the bottom. I watch the addicted guys, and all the TH-cam channels and articles in the pacific north west and Canada, and all of them say the same thing, weight on the bottom and 3-6 ft leader. And I did that and wanted to see what my gear was doing in and looking like in the water, and when I checked my bead was behind my weight and it was right on the bottom (no higher than an inch off the bottom) That doesn’t really make sense to me and correspond with everything I’ve heard. Any ideas?
why do you use a bait loop knot if your not using roe? Also for the float stops i use a mono leader to my braid so i don’t have to put the stops on the braid.
I like the bait loop knot because I do find it better than just a improved clinch. I also want my leader to be going straight through the curved eye of the Owner SSW hook so it doesn't sit in an angle below the bead.
Hey Rod, I had a question I was wondering if you could help answer, I was wondering why summer chinooks turn red for their spawning colours and fall chinooks turn green? Also, do you have any resources that I can use to look up questions like these? Thanks. P.S. if you put oil based scents on the BnR beads, they will dissolve, I put some procure scent on, and a couple days later I forgot about it and it dissolved on my leaderboard and got everywhere lol.
Their spawning colours are different because they’re two different stocks. The summer reds were introduced from a couple different Interior Fraser stocks, while the fall whites were introduced from the Harrison.
Thanks for the quick reply Rod! Is there any reason these stocks turn different colours to spawn like it camouflages them better for their original environment these stocks came from?
Why exactly they turn certain colours I don’t know, but I’m sure there is an evolutionary process behind it so they could adapt to whatever environment they need to survive in.
Hey rod, I’m fairly new to fishing and have only gone for trout. I’m looking into buying a rod but I was wondering if there’s a good rod range or size that I can use it for salmon and maybe some lighter fish as well ?
There really aren't too many rods which can cover both species because of the size differences. Try to find a spinning rod that's rated 4 to 10lb, or 6 to 10lb. Those are good rods for coho and pink salmon, and still not too heavy for trout.
@@FishingwithRod thanks, I just picked up an fenwick eagle, 9’ 6 with medium moderate action with a line rating of 10-20 lb, might be over kill? I can still exchange it but might just get a second lighter rod
@@georgejs3025 That rod is a well rounded rod for all salmon species, but would be too heavy for trout for sure. Ideally you want to just have a light setup for trout (2 to 6lb) and a separate rod for salmon. It'd make the experience a lot more enjoyable.
That depends on what’s local. 😄 Pretty much all the stores in the Lower Mainland and Fraser Valley are fully stocked with them now. I walked into both Fred’s and Pacific Rivers Outfitting Company in Chilliwack a couple of weeks ago and their racks were all full. 🙂
BOY!!!! I'm the one who can argue and I'll back it up any given fishday that you can use a spinning rod and freespool line just as you could with a bait caster.......
i have a technical problem: Since salmons during run don't feed, why they can bite on bead? I saw a lot of people snagging or flossing salmon, but not natural instinct strike. 😆
Logan, contrary to what many believe, Pacific salmon do bite frequently, due to instinct. Coho salmon would chase down a spoon or spinner, sometimes until the lure is almost hitting your feet. Chinook and coho salmon both will bite onto bait, bead or whatever is drifting down the river. Pink and chum salmon would attack rubber and marabou jigs. That's not to say snagging or flossing do no happen, and should be addressed as it is illegal.
@@FishingwithRod Interesting! Thank you so much! Probably another factor is that I'm in Ontario, I'd say definitely there are bites but not that frequent? I remember my friend tried all sort of eggs, roe or sac to trigger the instinct bite
Yeah, some days they are just tight lipped, while other days/times they would turn on all of a sudden. Coho salmon are well known for these behaviours.
have been seeing more soft beads on the market the last few years but haven't tried them yet. Interesting bobber stop style retainer/peg thing. it would be crazy using a 30mm hard bead, like a small egg of solid plastic. Some areas also regulate the max distance from the hook. Here, you need to stay under 2" from the hook to be legal.
I’ve heard lots of success on steelhead too. My sample size of steelhead catches is too small to make any conclusive opinions on them in a short period of time I think. 😆
For 20g floats, I use 20g of weight lol... Check out those sliding egg weights from First Light Tackle in Burnaby. He's got each weight size to match each DNE float size.
@@FishingwithRod yes, at times I feel like salmon fishing in rivers is hypothetical lol that kinda works... some of the time. do you find spinner and spoons is less effective on springs than coho? Or about the same!??
I’m confused about bead fishing. Every article and video I watch from all the Pacific Northwest area and here in BC, people say they use a leader of no less than 3 ft, most commonly 4-6 ft, and they say to have your weight on the bottom, and the beads are neutrally buoyant and will act like a real egg on the bottom. But you seem to be approaching it a bit different with a much shorter leader and more of a (suspended) presentation instead of on the bottom. I have been using beads on the Canal with a 3 ft leader and did some tests, and what I found was confusing. I found the bead was behind the weight upstream and the being dragged by the weight?? I always thought that the lighter bead would be downstream of the weight in front, but it wasn’t.
I found this opposite, especially if I’m holding my line/float back a little bit. Make sure your bead isn’t bouncing on the bottom occasionally, because then there’d be some drag for sure. That may be what’s happening with the longer leader because there’s too much swaying going on. Kind of like going on a swing. The longer your swing is, the more you would be able to move.
@@FishingwithRod so are you setting it up so your bead is fishing like a jig or roe, suspended? Like if the run is 4 ft deep and your using a 2 ft leader do you set your bobber stop to your bead at 3 ft so your bead is a foot off the bottom? And what are your thoughts on all the TH-cam videos out there and articles, even from the bead companies themselves that say the bead is meant to be on the bottom acting like a real egg and to use a 3-6 ft leader and set your weight so it hitting bottom? That seems to be the general setup for almost every video and article I have read. And I’ve gone out 6 times fishing beads with that exact setup and haven’t got a bite and noticed my bead dragging behind my weight right on the bottom. To me that doesn’t seem like it’s in the proper stroke zone like they are advertised to be with that setup, but even BnR themselves recommends the setup with a 3-5 ft leader and your weight on the bottom. So I’m just really confused because from what I’ve seen that bead is way to low on the bottom with that setup, but they literally recommend that setup and they slay fish. And obviously you are a great fisherman and are catching lots of fish on your bead setup that’s way different than I’ve seen everyone else setup. I don’t k ow what to do lol.
@@UnRaT3Dx your leader will likely flow horizontal under water so if you want to fish 1 ft off bottom of 4ft deep run, you just need to set your bobber 3 ft away from your weight
@@nhatran6888 that would mean if you are using a short leader of 1 ft your bead would be dragging the bottom. Which is what people say should be happening and how bead companies advertise their beads to be fished, but I was under the impression that it would be floating in randomly in the bottom 1 ft of the river and along the bottom and bounding all around, but after looking at it in the low clear water the bead literally just drags on the bottom, it doesn’t even come up an inch, literally just the bottom, and that is not the strike zone of the fish. Rod seems to suspend his bead like roe (a foot off the bottom) so that means his weight would be set about 3 ft from the bottom with a 2 ft leader. I’m just confused because every bead video and article I’ve seen/read tells you to use a 3-5ft leader and set your weight to the bottom of a foot off the bottom, and you will be in the strike zone. And I tried that and looked in the water to what it looked like and the bead was just dragging right along the bottom
A lot of people in Washington use those super long leaders and beads or Corkies on a drop sinker rig to floss fish. Whether they admit it or not. Especially if they do a sweeping motion with their rod at the end of the drift. Longer leader means more line to floss through more potential fish’s mouths, and the sweeping motion add more probability of that also.
Spent the morning further up the Vedder. Did very well twitching. I am amazed that these fish can get up that far giver the water conditions right now.
Nina is really bad at remembering faces/names btw. 😆 I am usually either asleep or out fishing mid morning so you should come by again in late afternoon that’s when I’m usually home because the fam expects to be fed by me. 😉
@@FishingwithRod No and I am not on facebook so just wanted to stop by and say thanks. Really missed my twitching rods today. Thanks for the excellent vid on beads. BTW
You we really living in the pass lol. Good changes but I won't recommend 20lb braid for float fishing everytime you miss a hook set it will wrap around the rod tip cause its too light. I always wondered why the addicted guy use 50lb braided now I know plus hi vis and you can mead the line if need 50lb braided and 15lb fluorocarbon bummer . I like 15 - 20lbs for beach fishing with a 12lb bummer
For a couple of reasons. This is the knot I prefer than one that ties directly to the eye of the hook. I like to have the leader going straight through the eye so the hook would hang straight. Also if I choose to add some bait to the hook, that option is still available.
Great job on getting a spot light on the vedder river. I was worried that not enough people were out fishing here . Love the crowds of people that you have introduced to the area. Please don’t treat our other fisheries like this. You’ve ruined this river single handedly. Don’t turn the rest of our river into a shit show like the vedder has turned into.
I'm right handed but all my reels are lefty. In my humble idiot opinion, 95% of you are doing it wrong, especially in any casting heavy fishery. Trolling out on the ocean is one thing, but if you are casting and retrieving or drifting a float all day, to me a "left handed" setup seems to be the correct way for right handed people. I don't need any dexterity to spin a reel handle round and round, but for casting, managing line, striking and fighting fish - I want that rod in my right hand. The amount of fishermen I see constantly switching hands to cast kinda proves my point. Most people I see switch just for the cast and not when striking a fish, so Rod your old habit adds a whole layer of weirdness to it. I would have thought that holding your rod with your dominant hand was fishing 101 but what the heck do I know? 😂
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Is recommend using larger size braid (40-50lb) for float fishing. It will float better, because it's thicker. This creates less drag on bobber and makes mending line much easier. 40-50lb Power Pro braid will still cast fine since it's about same diameter as 10-12 lb. Mono. Hi vis braid also makes line management much easier. You need to be able to see where your line is to mend line and keep a drag free drift.
Awesome video. An additional option to enhance the bead presentation is to add a tuft of yarn, scented or not, to the egg loop, or hang a row sac off of the hook. Got my first steelhead on that one. With the bead this gives an additional option and provides a touch of scent of its own..
Definitely more options than what I’ve shown in this video. 😊
Which color for the yarn? White or pink?
For line I highly recommend 40 pound braid since you can guarantee you leader breaks so you don’t lose your bobber and if you get it in a colour like yellow it is highly visible making line management much easier
I like thicker line as well as it’s easier to manipulate and see on the water as well. A caveat is the size of your reel and of course, how much pressure it’s set on the drag so you won’t break your rod. Thanks for sharing your thoughts 💭
Do u use a bumper with 40lb braid? Is 40lb ok with coho as well?
@@megapix2425 the idea in using thick braid is to make it easier to work with and more visible. IMO the thinner the braided the easier to tangle. I believe 40lbs is too much. I use 20lbs bright yellow.
I don’t subscribe to much but You sir gained a sub forsure.. thank you for clearly explaining what you use and why -5months later
I use both hands also like you .i started using both out of necessity .i used what ever reel i had
Great videos really enjoy them. I've started using the B-n-R 32mm soft beads here in Anchorage, Alaska with good results, the coho love them. Catching more fish not having to always put more salmon roe on after landing the salmon and not messy.
32! I’m coming up.
I have been holding my rod with my right hand while using a right handed baitcaster ever since I can remember and switching hands has never been an issue. Just natural for me. I have found that I can't use a left handed reel because I have no control over it. When fighting a fish it seems to wobble in my hand.
23 minutes well spend. Very informative. Thank you Rod. Have a blessed day.
been using beads and soft plastics for decades, welcome to the party. little late tho'. prefer hard beads on rough bottom soft on easy bottom. i use a revo toro winch on kings sst 11'6 for the rod. 20llb izor line
Have you ever considered changing out to a power handle for your reel? I always felt very underpowered when using those double paddle handles. The power handles makes a huge difference
Yes Shimano do have some low profile baitcasting reels with a power handle. eg. Tranx 300XG.
Thanks for all the great information Rod. I'm so pleased to have found your channel last season and to be a subscriber. I also had great success with the soft beads....and I also shop at First Light. Steven helped me get started with pole fishing for carp. He's a wealth of knowledge. Thanks again.
Congrats on the new reel and fishing like a normal person. I'm only kidding 😂. First time my cousin introduced me to beads I didn't believed they worked. Now I use them all the time. They work great.
That is awesome!
Rod! You should do a charity auction on all the old Shimano rod and reels you don’t use anymore… would be interesting
Excellent advice and video, thanks for sharing Rod 👍
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Hey Rod, quick question regarding writing down your catch on your license. To my understanding that you must write your catch on your license for springs. I see alot of fish being kept, but never see anyone write there catch on there license. I've heard of people getting fined for not doing so. Is there a size limit that must be recorded and possibly if hatchery springs mut be wrote on your license and only 10 per license yearly?
Can't find any videos in regards of this. Thank you sir, and keep up the great work
Bike and fish is way too cool Rod. More of that! 👌
Sounds good, maybe add a bunny hop or face plant in there when opportunities arise. 🤪
Well Said and Done ,always excellent and informative !!Cheers from the Loops !!
Awesome video for setup and FINALLY you are using a left handed reel. :P
You should learn how to tie an FG knot, mainline (braid) to a section of fluro (10-15-20 foot section) to the weight/ swivel and the leader/ hook. Knot goes through the guides smoothly and if you do break off you can have a pre-tied float as a backup and retied in a few minutes.
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Great, vid, thanks! I like the small tackle box, I've been using a ziplock bag for my misc. stuff in my vest.
Yeah I love it! I bought a few of those on eBay a few years ago. 🙂
I'm going to experiment more with bead fishing this year, since whenever I get eggs I usually make them into sushi lol.
Same😂 they are the best part of fall salmon
Yes! Actually, there was fair amount of eggs from the fish in my last video and I gave them to another angler who wanted to use bait. I was thinking afterward that I guess I could have used them for sushi! 😆
So I got a question rod for bead fishing, where is the bead supposed to be?? Let's say I'm fishing a seven ft deep hole and my leader is 2 ft. Where should I be setting my float depth so I can get my bead to where it needs to be? Is it supposed to be free drifting above the bottom? Or is it supposed to kind of roll down river on the bottom?
I set the float depth just like the way I would fish with roe, keeping the bead a foot or so off the bottom.
I've been waiting for this vid. Thanks Rod!. We deal with selective gear rules in Washington state. So it dose get hard to have hook up's. Any good fishing advice.. I'll take! 👍
I’m glad to hear that I can be helpful. 🙂
Thank you so much, Rod! I'm new to Chilliwack and will be looking to get into salmon fishing next Sept.... any shop you recommend in the area that carry this gear?
Fred's Custom Tackle (this is your Shimano/G.Loomis dealer), Pacific Rivers Outfitting Company and Chilliwack Dart and Tackle carry all the terminal tackle needed.
@@FishingwithRod great! Thanks so much! Hopefully I will see you our there next September! Tight lines!
Nice Video Rod so detailed, you answer my questions about the size of the beads, hopefully more fish on video soon
Glad to help. Thanks for watching!
Have tried a tungsten sliding weight for low profile and more stealthier presentation on high pressured water ? Or do you think doesn’t matter
Yes, I actually have been using tunsten sliding weights at times and really enjoy it. As for whether it makes a difference on catch rate, I haven't really noticed much.
@ interesting , thank you for reply , seems like no Body else using it so I was curious . D you recommend 2’ Leader length Or shorter ?
@@yyoohh My leader is always around 16" to 18" inches long.
I put the bead right on the top of the hook 🪝. It’s in the fish’s mouth anyway, I definitely loose less fish this way.
Hope I can catch my first salmon this year only have a spinning rod 😊
Nothing wrong with the spinning rod for sure, especially for casting and retrieving lures, works awesome for coho salmon! 🙂
How do you pair your beads with hooks? What hooks size would you recommend for a 14mm?
I use size 1.
@@FishingwithRod Thanks rod your videos has help me a lot in my steelhead and salmon fishing.
@@melvinverdan3586 You're very welcome!
the bigger your weight and float, the more leader you need in clear water, in super low clear water like the vedder is now, i go all the way up to 24" leader.
Good video, as Austin said though as well I would highly recommend using atleast a 30 pound braid or 40 some guys even run 50, it will help a lot with keeping line off the water, easy to mend and floats better than 20 will.
I'll have to try 30lb for the next spool I think. 🙂
Best fishing channel by far 😃
Thank you! 😃
ive seen many people just putting some white wool into their baitloop without a bead or roe and catch more salmon than people fishing with beads. they seemed to be just fishing normally with a float too, not flossing. is white wool better than beads?
Have tried fly fishing for Vedder salmon?
I have, but I rarely do it.
My fish started with the straight pink or pearl pink this year, but the last bunch have been back to mottled cherise again... Lol Another great vid Rod. Bring on the coho!
Good demonstration as usual.
Thanks! 😊
This is great! I ordered some of these beads for trout fishing in the river, now I can figure out how to set them up😊🎣
They’d work awesome for bull trout and rainbow trout! We used to fish beads for bull trout at the tail end of the salmon season and they usually go crazy on them.
@@FishingwithRod Awesome! I can’t wait to try them out😁
One other question , I use brand new Shimano curado 300 for bobber and egg / beads fishing . But seems like the line doesn’t go out smoothly I have 2 vbs on and spool tension normal as other bait casting reel . manufactures said free spool but seems not that smooth as I wish . Is My spool tension too tight ? But I don’t want to get bird nest at casting neither , any suggestions ?
Hey rod, does this setup work for spring/summer chinook? And for the beads, I've only been able to find hard ones, I was wondering where I could get those soft beads in and around Vancouver.
The setup should work for all chinook salmon.
These are BnR soft beads - bnrtackle.com
You should be able to find them at all tackle stores across the Lower Mainland right now.
Hi rod what’s the difference between white and red fall spring and why is red more rare in the fall?
Hi Ryan, so the fall chinook salmon are primarily white. It's a transplanted stock from Harrison River. Why exactly the % of red chinook salmon being caught in the fall appears to be increasing nobody really knows, but there are ongoing projects investigating this at the moment.
@@FishingwithRod thank you for the insight
You're welcome. I haven't had a chance to reply to your email, best to DM on IG usually.
Hi Rod, love your content! Was wondering for the beads, it comes in all sizes. What size should I use? Is it depending on the water conditions (dark? Clear) and type of water (slow? Fast). Much thanks!
I think I'm gonna have to leave those for everyone to try out because it's kind of individual's preferences. Personally I have had success with 12 and 14mm. Others have tried bigger but they just seem so unnatural. Motted cerise, pink, red, orange have been the ones I caught fish on last year. I haven't experimented enough to know what in fact works better under certain conditions.
Wow Rod, I really admire your stash of rod and reels. I wish i had one too but wifey prevents me from getting mine hahaha. all I got is a $5 rod from walmart and an old old spin caster that wants to retire already. I enjoy your videos. More power!
Hey you gotta use what you have. I used to do just fine with pretty entry level gear too. A little more spoiled these days lol.
What diameter leader would you use for targeting those bigger fish?
Very nice and informative video Rod 🎣👍👍
Thanks 👍
İt looks like you using over 2ft leader on your rood :) great video thank you for the information as always
When I get home later today, I’m going to measure it! 😆 This video is filmed with a wide angle lens so whatever is in front of me would look bigger than it actually is lol. Thanks for checking it out! 😄
Rod what size is you sliding weight with the 20 float.
20g
Good info! What is that black box you have for terminal tackle?
I got those from either eBay or Amazon, super handy!
love your videos rod so informative I have a question on the weights .so a 20 gram float means I need to use 20 grams of weight ?
That’s correct 👍
thank you sir
@@FishingwithRod
I’m going trout fishing and I have a question…. So nothing goes on the hook? How does that work? Serious question, not arguing.
Hi rod, what do you think of using a salmon streamer /intruder fly under a float rig?
You could try, there's only one way to find out.
Thank you for sharing some wisdom
You are so welcome
I use the scorpion 300 Md. both are great reels:
Great vid rod. Do you think that there is a difference between a baitcaster and centerpin reel and does it make a difference in the drift and do the fish care manly coho, chinook and steelhead
Pros and cons for each for sure. A good centerpin reel like the Islander Srteelheader provides a smoother drift, where as baitcasters don't really produce the same free spooling advantage, there is always a sight resistance. Baitcasters on the other hand, are way more efficient due to the high gear ratio. This means you can cover waters more effectively.
What is a good beginner centerpin set up in your opinion that will last a while
For for a rod, you could just get a cheaper model like a Shimano Clarus, or even look on FB Marketplace to see if there are some old models for sale (Shimano Convergence). For the reel, my advice is to jump in and invest on a good one right away. Cheaper ones simply don't spin well, and can break after awhile. Islander Steelheader is no cheap, but it's pretty much bomb proof. If taken care of, their resell value is pretty high if you end up not wanting to fish with a pin setup.
Hey Rod, I tried these before watching this video after they were suggested at the Harbour Chandler store in Nanaimo, the setup I m ade was almost identical to yours the only difference the 35 gr float!
I was at the Somass first light this Sunday and tried these non stop from 6.30 am to about 1.30 pm, different spots and a lot of casts, I managed to get a small coho but nothing else, fish wouldnt even have a look at it, and they were there lol! I also tried putting scent on them but nothing.
I really wouldnt want to get discouraged from this method as I really liked the aesthetic aspect of it as you also mentioned, so what would you think was the reason for no bites?
Defects! 😆 Actually, I was hoping to test these beads out on the Somass this month but I've committed to too many projects as usual. It should work, but sometimes one particular presentation just doesn't work on some days. I've also heard from others that the bites were hard to come by last weekend at Somass, so it could just be the fish that day...
Love the logic 🙏
@fishing with rod , great clip as always! Was wondering if this brood enhancement is going to be a regular event or just a one timer ? Also , do they do this to the Chum fishery too ? Thanks
The chinook hatchery program is permanent. Without it, these two runs would just disappear because they’re not native stocks. The doubling of the productions should go on for a few more years.
Thanks for the quick reply Rod !
Hi rod , I been looking for regulations and I cant find the actual regulations for fishing Chinook in Cheakamus river , is there some opening ? what are the rules regarding this river and this specie of salmon ? I hope you can help me , I looked on your website but it is not mentionned.
Hi Frank, chinook salmon fishing is closed for the Cheakamus River. The regulations are found at:
www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html
When the species is not mentioned in the river system you are fishing, it is closed to fishing including catching and releasing.
@@FishingwithRod thanks a lot Rod !
Hello! Im new in Canada , I live in BC langley , I would like to know if you could recommend places that you could fish from shore that need to do some hikes to have beautiful lakes. Thanks!
Hi, welcome! You'd want to try hiking up to Lindemann and Flora Lake in Chilliwack.
@@FishingwithRod Thank you! :)
In the soft beads bag, there is a two-parts yellow button. What's that button for?
Those are just plastics holding the wires for the pegs.
Are centre pin reels just for steelhead can I fish for chinook with it
Hey Rod great video .Just wondering are those re-purposed broccoli elastics keeping your rods together when broken down lol.If so i do the same .I have a bunch in a drawer at home use them all the time .
Yes!! 🤣
I just buy hair ties from the dollar store or Walmart for holding rods together lol, the one without any sort of metal band on them to prevent scratches and such, they work equally well and don’t dry out like rubber bands can,
@@HATINTHEKAT i get in trouble for taking my girls lol they also work great
@@wadepitcher2211 yeah my girlfriends always looking for her hair ties too, I couldn’t bring myself to take hers haha, just got myself some and now she takes mine 🤷🏻♂️ funny how that works lol
Hi rod can you please tell me the E6X model number? Thanks
Hey Rod do you think those beads would work in heavier rapid type of water?
I don’t really fish rapid water, so there is only one way to find that out.. 😉
They do. Just use a split shot and bounce it on the bottom
How are you setting float depth when fishing a bead? Does the bead suspend at the level of the weight or does it sink down below in a vertical presentation?
Pretty much the same as if I’m using roe, but maybe a bit shallower. I find the density of these soft beads is a bit higher than the hard beads, so they don’t suspend as much which is great. This means less swaying of the leader when being drifted. I like mine to be suspending a foot off the bottom. Fish don’t seem to have a problem chasing them down. Last year, I even had one coho grabbing it while it was being retrieved! 😦
@@xplicitfishin I have done this because that’s what everyone suggests in all the videos I see, but when I looked on the water my bead was dragging on the bottom well below the strike zone?
@@xplicitfishin my bead was literally not even an inch off the bottom. I watch the addicted guys, and all the TH-cam channels and articles in the pacific north west and Canada, and all of them say the same thing, weight on the bottom and 3-6 ft leader. And I did that and wanted to see what my gear was doing in and looking like in the water, and when I checked my bead was behind my weight and it was right on the bottom (no higher than an inch off the bottom)
That doesn’t really make sense to me and correspond with everything I’ve heard. Any ideas?
@@xplicitfishin I use #2 #4 owner no escape.
Thanks
I have a problem in that when i cast with this configuration, the weight tends to tangle up with the hook. Any idea why this is happening? Thanks :)
Hard to tell what exactly is happening without seeing the rig actually, and how you are casting it.
why do you use a bait loop knot if your not using roe? Also for the float stops i use a mono leader to my braid so i don’t have to put the stops on the braid.
The egg loop knot when tied correctly is much stronger than a plain snell knot. And very versatile if you ever do need the loop.
I like the bait loop knot because I do find it better than just a improved clinch. I also want my leader to be going straight through the curved eye of the Owner SSW hook so it doesn't sit in an angle below the bead.
Will a 3/0 hook work for those soft beads?
No, unless you’re catching 60lb salmon.
Is there a dealer of those soft beads in canada.. I refuse to pay over 41.00 us shipping for a couple of pkgs
. thanks
If you are in Vancouver, pretty much all the stores in the Lower Mainland carry them.
@@FishingwithRod Thank you Istumbled onto Freds Tackle My goodness half the price overall Darned pleased Thank you
Hey Rod, I had a question I was wondering if you could help answer, I was wondering why summer chinooks turn red for their spawning colours and fall chinooks turn green? Also, do you have any resources that I can use to look up questions like these? Thanks.
P.S. if you put oil based scents on the BnR beads, they will dissolve, I put some procure scent on, and a couple days later I forgot about it and it dissolved on my leaderboard and got everywhere lol.
Their spawning colours are different because they’re two different stocks. The summer reds were introduced from a couple different Interior Fraser stocks, while the fall whites were introduced from the Harrison.
And yikes about the procure! 😬
Im sure its the oil in the scents dissolving the silicone in the bead, I still love procure!
Thanks for the quick reply Rod!
Is there any reason these stocks turn different colours to spawn like it camouflages them better for their original environment these stocks came from?
Why exactly they turn certain colours I don’t know, but I’m sure there is an evolutionary process behind it so they could adapt to whatever environment they need to survive in.
Hey rod, I’m fairly new to fishing and have only gone for trout. I’m looking into buying a rod but I was wondering if there’s a good rod range or size that I can use it for salmon and maybe some lighter fish as well ?
There really aren't too many rods which can cover both species because of the size differences. Try to find a spinning rod that's rated 4 to 10lb, or 6 to 10lb. Those are good rods for coho and pink salmon, and still not too heavy for trout.
@@FishingwithRod thanks, I just picked up an fenwick eagle, 9’ 6 with medium moderate action with a line rating of 10-20 lb, might be over kill? I can still exchange it but might just get a second lighter rod
@@georgejs3025 That rod is a well rounded rod for all salmon species, but would be too heavy for trout for sure. Ideally you want to just have a light setup for trout (2 to 6lb) and a separate rod for salmon. It'd make the experience a lot more enjoyable.
@@FishingwithRod thank you for the feedback! I’ll keep this rod and get a lighter rod later! Had no luck at the vedder this weekend though!
Tough fishing on the Vedder right now. Once the rain comes, whenever that is, it'll be a lot better.
Hey Rod, great video.
Anywhere local sell the BNR soft beads?
That depends on what’s local. 😄 Pretty much all the stores in the Lower Mainland and Fraser Valley are fully stocked with them now. I walked into both Fred’s and Pacific Rivers Outfitting Company in Chilliwack a couple of weeks ago and their racks were all full. 🙂
@@FishingwithRod perfect thanks! Right between both stores!
Me too! 😜
@@FishingwithRod I'll try my luck tomorrow morning!
BOY!!!! I'm the one who can argue and I'll back it up any given fishday that you can use a spinning rod and freespool line just as you could with a bait caster.......
Of course you can. If that’s what you wish to do then go for it. There are just tools which make the job easier.
Great idea Rod adding links to the products your reviewing!!
Thanks! I normally do that, forgot about it in my last video. 😅
What is your little tackle box called.
I don't think it has a name. You can get those from either eBay or Amazon.
why a sliding weight instead of a fixed inline weight?
Fish don’t feel the weight if it slides
i have a technical problem: Since salmons during run don't feed, why they can bite on bead? I saw a lot of people snagging or flossing salmon, but not natural instinct strike. 😆
Logan, contrary to what many believe, Pacific salmon do bite frequently, due to instinct. Coho salmon would chase down a spoon or spinner, sometimes until the lure is almost hitting your feet. Chinook and coho salmon both will bite onto bait, bead or whatever is drifting down the river. Pink and chum salmon would attack rubber and marabou jigs. That's not to say snagging or flossing do no happen, and should be addressed as it is illegal.
@@FishingwithRod Interesting! Thank you so much! Probably another factor is that I'm in Ontario, I'd say definitely there are bites but not that frequent? I remember my friend tried all sort of eggs, roe or sac to trigger the instinct bite
Yeah, some days they are just tight lipped, while other days/times they would turn on all of a sudden. Coho salmon are well known for these behaviours.
great vid!
Thanks! 🙂
have been seeing more soft beads on the market the last few years but haven't tried them yet. Interesting bobber stop style retainer/peg thing. it would be crazy using a 30mm hard bead, like a small egg of solid plastic. Some areas also regulate the max distance from the hook. Here, you need to stay under 2" from the hook to be legal.
30mm would be like a ping pong lol. I really like the 8 to 14mm range.
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Rod, how many rods n reels do you have? I am hitting double digits soon! Its an addiction like woman have w purses/shoes! 😂
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Great video - will be interested to see how the beads perform with winter steelhead?
I’ve heard lots of success on steelhead too. My sample size of steelhead catches is too small to make any conclusive opinions on them in a short period of time I think. 😆
Sir can i use 28mm 8x lucana braided line for snakehead fish..pls reply
No idea.
Thank you for your valuable reply
You haven't lived until you try the 32mm soft beads.
😂
What kind of scent can use it on ?
I haven't really tried scent on the beads, because they've worked surprisingly well without it so far.
What size weights are u using!
For 20g floats, I use 20g of weight lol... Check out those sliding egg weights from First Light Tackle in Burnaby. He's got each weight size to match each DNE float size.
Should be 3/4 oz
I haven't found more fish in 2022?
caught none last year. And None this year...
High abundance doesn't always translate to high catches, I have experienced that many times too. 😅
@@FishingwithRod yes, at times I feel like salmon fishing in rivers is hypothetical lol that kinda works... some of the time. do you find spinner and spoons is less effective on springs than coho? Or about the same!??
I’m confused about bead fishing. Every article and video I watch from all the Pacific Northwest area and here in BC, people say they use a leader of no less than 3 ft, most commonly 4-6 ft, and they say to have your weight on the bottom, and the beads are neutrally buoyant and will act like a real egg on the bottom. But you seem to be approaching it a bit different with a much shorter leader and more of a (suspended) presentation instead of on the bottom.
I have been using beads on the Canal with a 3 ft leader and did some tests, and what I found was confusing. I found the bead was behind the weight upstream and the being dragged by the weight?? I always thought that the lighter bead would be downstream of the weight in front, but it wasn’t.
I found this opposite, especially if I’m holding my line/float back a little bit. Make sure your bead isn’t bouncing on the bottom occasionally, because then there’d be some drag for sure. That may be what’s happening with the longer leader because there’s too much swaying going on. Kind of like going on a swing. The longer your swing is, the more you would be able to move.
@@FishingwithRod so are you setting it up so your bead is fishing like a jig or roe, suspended? Like if the run is 4 ft deep and your using a 2 ft leader do you set your bobber stop to your bead at 3 ft so your bead is a foot off the bottom?
And what are your thoughts on all the TH-cam videos out there and articles, even from the bead companies themselves that say the bead is meant to be on the bottom acting like a real egg and to use a 3-6 ft leader and set your weight so it hitting bottom? That seems to be the general setup for almost every video and article I have read. And I’ve gone out 6 times fishing beads with that exact setup and haven’t got a bite and noticed my bead dragging behind my weight right on the bottom. To me that doesn’t seem like it’s in the proper stroke zone like they are advertised to be with that setup, but even BnR themselves recommends the setup with a 3-5 ft leader and your weight on the bottom. So I’m just really confused because from what I’ve seen that bead is way to low on the bottom with that setup, but they literally recommend that setup and they slay fish. And obviously you are a great fisherman and are catching lots of fish on your bead setup that’s way different than I’ve seen everyone else setup. I don’t k ow what to do lol.
@@UnRaT3Dx your leader will likely flow horizontal under water so if you want to fish 1 ft off bottom of 4ft deep run, you just need to set your bobber 3 ft away from your weight
@@nhatran6888 that would mean if you are using a short leader of 1 ft your bead would be dragging the bottom. Which is what people say should be happening and how bead companies advertise their beads to be fished, but I was under the impression that it would be floating in randomly in the bottom 1 ft of the river and along the bottom and bounding all around, but after looking at it in the low clear water the bead literally just drags on the bottom, it doesn’t even come up an inch, literally just the bottom, and that is not the strike zone of the fish. Rod seems to suspend his bead like roe (a foot off the bottom) so that means his weight would be set about 3 ft from the bottom with a 2 ft leader.
I’m just confused because every bead video and article I’ve seen/read tells you to use a 3-5ft leader and set your weight to the bottom of a foot off the bottom, and you will be in the strike zone. And I tried that and looked in the water to what it looked like and the bead was just dragging right along the bottom
A lot of people in Washington use those super long leaders and beads or Corkies on a drop sinker rig to floss fish. Whether they admit it or not. Especially if they do a sweeping motion with their rod at the end of the drift. Longer leader means more line to floss through more potential fish’s mouths, and the sweeping motion add more probability of that also.
Spent the morning further up the Vedder. Did very well twitching. I am amazed that these fish can get up that far giver the water conditions right now.
Would it be worth playing hooky from work Friday
Any news on your lost rods and reels? I posted the information up yesterday.
Nina is really bad at remembering faces/names btw. 😆 I am usually either asleep or out fishing mid morning so you should come by again in late afternoon that’s when I’m usually home because the fam expects to be fed by me. 😉
@@FishingwithRod No and I am not on facebook so just wanted to stop by and say thanks. Really missed my twitching rods today. Thanks for the excellent vid on beads. BTW
I'm still hoping those rods would turn up. Sometimes it takes a week or two for someone to message me about found items.
You we really living in the pass lol.
Good changes but I won't recommend 20lb braid for float fishing everytime you miss a hook set it will wrap around the rod tip cause its too light. I always wondered why the addicted guy use 50lb braided now I know plus hi vis and you can mead the line if need 50lb braided and 15lb fluorocarbon bummer .
I like 15 - 20lbs for beach fishing with a 12lb bummer
Good point about the braid test strength for sure!
Why do you tie a egg loop knot while using beads?
For a couple of reasons. This is the knot I prefer than one that ties directly to the eye of the hook. I like to have the leader going straight through the eye so the hook would hang straight. Also if I choose to add some bait to the hook, that option is still available.
U need try mine then
Try what?
Good sir..youve got sharp teeth
Great job on getting a spot light on the vedder river. I was worried that not enough people were out fishing here . Love the crowds of people that you have introduced to the area. Please don’t treat our other fisheries like this. You’ve ruined this river single handedly. Don’t turn the rest of our river into a shit show like the vedder has turned into.
Well that’s a first, never heard this one before. 🤣
😂
See ya on the river
Is this recent?
Btw I’ve been watching fishing with rod videos for a long time.
Three fingers bro
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@@FishingwithRod lol I think anyway. Even with 6mm beads I put them three fingers above the hook
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I'm right handed but all my reels are lefty. In my humble idiot opinion, 95% of you are doing it wrong, especially in any casting heavy fishery. Trolling out on the ocean is one thing, but if you are casting and retrieving or drifting a float all day, to me a "left handed" setup seems to be the correct way for right handed people. I don't need any dexterity to spin a reel handle round and round, but for casting, managing line, striking and fighting fish - I want that rod in my right hand. The amount of fishermen I see constantly switching hands to cast kinda proves my point. Most people I see switch just for the cast and not when striking a fish, so Rod your old habit adds a whole layer of weirdness to it. I would have thought that holding your rod with your dominant hand was fishing 101 but what the heck do I know? 😂
Not for me, cast left , retrieve right. Fly cast right strip left , and I'm right handed
You have good teeth!
Not really. 😅 My teeth are not great because I do what I did in this video way too often. 😬
Let's not start down the 'artificial bait only' path....please.
That's not what this video is about. Bait would still work better, and I will still enjoy using it from time to time.