Thanks Rod. That was super; love watching you get after those fish. I also appreciate the unguided aspect of the adventure; it’s just more authentic. Awesome video.
Bnr have a pre made hole in the middle of the bead unlike its clear drift counterparts and comes with an effective T-stop to keep the bead from sliding. essentially paying for convenience
@@ItsMikeLearnsim on the fence of doing this, might be fine for springs but i feel like coho can be really picky and can see the hook. And yes, when they do bite, its a better hookup when the bead is on the hook, just wondering if it will lower the amount of takes
The fish will not be startled by the sight of the hook. Having the bead on the hook is not an issue for bites. Losing the bead once the fish is on there, is an issue.
I was there as well, just further down. I got 5 coho and 1 spring on prime silver/chartreuse spoon. Two hatchery coho about 6 lbs. Very nice fish. It's been good fishing, not sure why everyone is grouped together down there. There's tons of spots not being fished.
Your videos are giving me the itch. I’ve not fished this year due to my knees getting so bad 😢I just can’t walk the distances or manoeuvre the banks anymore it’s so frustrating being how much I enjoy the sport . Those fish are amazing though,congrats on a successful day out .
As always, I absolutely loved your video and will continue to enjoy them. However, could you possibly release this after peak season. The crowds on the Vedder are getting ridiculous, even mid-week. I see people,especially elderly people being squeezed out of their spots and few have the ability to hike through the trails to find quieter spots. It seems that some of these people have been fishing for 10 or 15 years and more. Anyway, just my thoughts. Good luck this coming weekend.😎😀
Rod don't care, he's in it for the money. He is part of the problem, the river is only gonna get worse and social media is a big part of that. There are way getter places to fish, long as we keep them off social media. Let Rod and his 15 million cousins have the vedder river.
I was with my nephew fishing a hole full of springs. We weren't catching anything, but a group of older fellas were constantly on them, mostly foul hooking with long leaders and too deep a set. One of the guys had the gall to try and explain to my nephew how to do it.. They clearly don't think they were doing anything wrong, unreal.
Yeah unfortunately, when the river gets a solid return of chinook salmon, combined with low water conditions, this type of behaviours becomes pretty common. Hopefully videos like this with an emphasis on how to do it correctly will help new comers.
Yeah it does, got my nephew on to your videos and I have a big emphasis on respecting fish. You're teaching the right way, and ultimately what should derive more pleasure when you do get on to them.
I use 15lb mono, or 25lb PowerPro braid. These two videos show my whole setup. th-cam.com/video/qe2VVDzpnSg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YW62ZZDjnKmL5m9u th-cam.com/video/A-3pYqpsi0w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2OyLN6T6CjGtdOV_
I notice you didn't use tranx much lately, is that because of the weight? I have a curado as well and love it, but I am curious how that compares to tranx?
The Tranx 300 is a really powerful reel and I tend to only use it when I am targeting chinook and chum salmon only. It's bit of an overkill for coho and a bit on the heavier side too. If I am fishing for smaller fish, the Curado 200 is great, or even the 300 is a bit lighter than the Tranx 300.
That would make things too easy Carol. 🤣 I mainly use that net because it’s the easiest one to carry on my back. From my experience, we don’t really have extendable landing nets in our market that I’d consider good enough. These wooden ones float on the water too, which makes it easier to retrieve at times.
I’m in a bait ban river so I’ve been using bnr beads for awhile now, I just thought of using nail glue or gorilla glue to keep the bead from sliding, not sure if that will cause a scent or if its legal lol.
Hi Rod, thanks for posting, I try to learn from all these and started using more spoons after watching that episode. In the canal you feature here, can you use spoons?
Awesome video! Just out of interest why do most people in BC run mono line on their float setups? Down in the states we run braid and then a mono bumper.
Quite a few anglers would run braided as main for their float fishing setup in BC actually. I have tried it, but personally I didn't like it and using 15lb mono as my main is still the way I like it.
Great videos Rod! I am starting in Salmon fishing and your videos have taught me so much! I have heard you saying Springs multiple times. I know you are referring to Chinook, but what do you mean when you say spring? Does it mean a young chinook? Or a wild chinook? Thanks for everything!
Hi Rod. I caught a fin clipped spring on the Vedder. Is the hatchery clipping some springs? I remember there used to be a head return protocol for fin clipped springs because they were tagged and they wanted the heads back for data. Is that still in place? Also any info the genetics of the fall return Vedder chinook "White" vs "marbled" vs "red" flesh? I caught all three but there seems to be a lot more reds and marbles around, at least when I caught my fish which is early in the run, last two weeks of September. I tend to get my limit and rarely take springs in October so I don't know if the reds and marbles are as plentiful later in the run. I definitely prefer the reds for flavor but white tastes good.
The hatchery clips about 10% of the chinook salmon, but that will go up in the coming years as the program is changing. Two hatchery stocks of chinook salmon exist in the Chilliwack River, and they both were introduced. The summer run is red, and the fall run is mainly white. In recently years we've seen more reds mixed in with the whites throughout September. The mechanism behind this shift is not really known, but I'm sure no one is complaining. :)
@@Darryl58 Totally legit questions, no worries. The tide and how it influences the fish movement in the canal is something that I am still constantly learning too. Just when I think we got it figured out, the fish surprise us everytime.
Rod.... been looking at all sorts of chest waders and almost all have good comments and bad comments... and every one of them in the bad comments talks about leaks and failures fairly quickly. What chest waders do you use and do you recommend any?
Yeah unfortunately leaks will always happen regardless how much money you spend on a pair, but a lot of it comes down to how much you take care of or abuse them. I wear a pair of Simms G3 Guide waders which honestly are the best I've had. They are really comfortable, light and at the end of the day you won't feel tired. I've had this pair since January 2019 and so far no leaks here, but I also baby them a lot, by avoiding bushwacking, or taking my time to walk through the forest if I do have to etc, and cleaning them regularly after fishing.
I’m just wondering why you cast your line and then change hands instead of leaving the rod in your casting position? I would find that to complicated, again just wondering
Not so sure about leather 😉 but my leader is either 12 or 15lb test Seaguar STS fluorocarbon. I would check out this video to learn more about the setup: th-cam.com/video/A-3pYqpsi0w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FP4yevek8C7pKS-E
For chinook salmon, there in fact aren’t any wild fish (for this time of the year anyway). This chinook salmon stock is entirely produced by the hatchery and unlike hatchery coho salmon, most of them are not adipose clipped. So the short answer is that yes you can keep unclipped chinook salmon.
That's correct, from the Vedder. Generally, only hatchery marked coho salmon can be kept, but every river system has its own regulations so best to double check.
Cheaper… not cheapest. 😉 Shimano Clarus has been discontinued and the remaining inventory at the local stores are now for sale at great prices if you can still find them. compre will be the new series to replace Clarus and IMO those are the rods to get for anyone who is just starting out and intends to try for a couple seasons. Technium would be one step up but IMO if you are upgrading, just jump up to a E6X, IMX. They are so much nicer for a bit more 💴.
Hello rod I have just started salmon fishing a large river. I already have an 8ft 6inch okuma celilo medium action 8-17lb line rating. Would that be sufficient for king salmon fishing.
@@FishingwithRod I'm not sure how big they are but pretty big. Could I catch kings on a 12-20lb medium action spinning rod with 2500 size reel. I put 30lb braid on it with 17lb mono leader
2500 is a little small for chinook salmon, but it'll do the job once awhile. Over time it may be a problem. 3000 would be better. I use my 2500 reels for coho salmon and occasionally will bring in chinook salmon, no problem with that. Your spinning reel is good for what you want to do.
None of them are biting…. It’s a technique called lining or “ganking”. The fish are visible, almost dead and gilling hard….. in two feet of water. The egg is to float the hook some and make it visible so you can tell when you’re leader lays right in their gaping mouth…. Raise the rod and whamo….. you snagged one right in the mouth. Hope it spawned already…. Which it why it spent its life to get there. You guys are studs!
How come your support an American company but cleardrift is in your backyard ? It's sad to see you and stores support american company over a Canadian one? Bnr is over priced man
@@thomasszeman9663these fish are biting the soft beads. That's how it works. Obviously there is the random one that was accidentally flossed. But you don't floss with a short leader and a float.
Well why don't you make a company that supplies to most fishing stores and make it really cheap then we'll all buy from you. Jeez think about the way you sound. Your being really rude.
Nobody should get spooled, it's the worst thing that could happen to our waterways when several hundred yards of line end up in them. Whenever I feel that I don't have control of a fish that's too big for my setup, I usually choose to break off instead of letting it take all my line until I might lose it all.
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Thanks Rod. That was super; love watching you get after those fish. I also appreciate the unguided aspect of the adventure; it’s just more authentic. Awesome video.
Thanks Andrew! I also love the unguided adventures. :)
How come bnr beads are 2x the price of Cleardrift beads when they’re the same thing ?
Bnr have a pre made hole in the middle of the bead unlike its clear drift counterparts and comes with an effective T-stop to keep the bead from sliding. essentially paying for convenience
Because they need to pay Rod for marketing them lol just use a float stop to hold the beads in place and save some money
or fish them on a hook. easier hook setup @@StefanZivkovicMedia
@@ItsMikeLearnsim on the fence of doing this, might be fine for springs but i feel like coho can be really picky and can see the hook. And yes, when they do bite, its a better hookup when the bead is on the hook, just wondering if it will lower the amount of takes
The fish will not be startled by the sight of the hook. Having the bead on the hook is not an issue for bites. Losing the bead once the fish is on there, is an issue.
I was there as well, just further down. I got 5 coho and 1 spring on prime silver/chartreuse spoon. Two hatchery coho about 6 lbs. Very nice fish. It's been good fishing, not sure why everyone is grouped together down there. There's tons of spots not being fished.
Yep, more secluded spots mean more coho. ;)
I caught Springs, for the first time, a few weeks ago. What a rush!!!❤❤ I caught them on spoons😅.
Yay! 👍
Your videos are giving me the itch. I’ve not fished this year due to my knees getting so bad 😢I just can’t walk the distances or manoeuvre the banks anymore it’s so frustrating being how much I enjoy the sport . Those fish are amazing though,congrats on a successful day out .
Take care Sheryl! Hope you can get back to fishing at some point.
Good stuff Rod. Kudos as always.
Great video as always!
Thanks again!
TIGHT LINES!!! Cheers from Here!
Thanks!
As always, I absolutely loved your video and will continue to enjoy them. However, could you possibly release this after peak season. The crowds on the Vedder are getting ridiculous, even mid-week. I see people,especially elderly people being squeezed out of their spots and few have the ability to hike through the trails to find quieter spots. It seems that some of these people have been fishing for 10 or 15 years and more. Anyway, just my thoughts. Good luck this coming weekend.😎😀
Rod don't care, he's in it for the money. He is part of the problem, the river is only gonna get worse and social media is a big part of that.
There are way getter places to fish, long as we keep them off social media. Let Rod and his 15 million cousins have the vedder river.
When you're fishing the soft beats under the float in this video. Is a soft bead suspended or is it dragging on the bottom?? Thanks 😊
oh man i was there all weekend probably just missed you haha
I wasn’t down there on the weekend. 😅
I was with my nephew fishing a hole full of springs. We weren't catching anything, but a group of older fellas were constantly on them, mostly foul hooking with long leaders and too deep a set.
One of the guys had the gall to try and explain to my nephew how to do it..
They clearly don't think they were doing anything wrong, unreal.
Yeah unfortunately, when the river gets a solid return of chinook salmon, combined with low water conditions, this type of behaviours becomes pretty common. Hopefully videos like this with an emphasis on how to do it correctly will help new comers.
Yeah it does, got my nephew on to your videos and I have a big emphasis on respecting fish.
You're teaching the right way, and ultimately what should derive more pleasure when you do get on to them.
Glad to hear that! Thank you.
Another Excellent video Rod 🎣👍🎣
Thanks 👍
Hey Rod! Great Video! what type of mainline and weight of the line are you using for your Curado 200 are you using?
I use 15lb mono, or 25lb PowerPro braid. These two videos show my whole setup.
th-cam.com/video/qe2VVDzpnSg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YW62ZZDjnKmL5m9u
th-cam.com/video/A-3pYqpsi0w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2OyLN6T6CjGtdOV_
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Any time!
I notice you didn't use tranx much lately, is that because of the weight? I have a curado as well and love it, but I am curious how that compares to tranx?
The Tranx 300 is a really powerful reel and I tend to only use it when I am targeting chinook and chum salmon only. It's bit of an overkill for coho and a bit on the heavier side too. If I am fishing for smaller fish, the Curado 200 is great, or even the 300 is a bit lighter than the Tranx 300.
I’m surprised you don’t use a net with a longer handle? Is there a reason? Carol, from Sydney, Australia
That would make things too easy Carol. 🤣 I mainly use that net because it’s the easiest one to carry on my back. From my experience, we don’t really have extendable landing nets in our market that I’d consider good enough. These wooden ones float on the water too, which makes it easier to retrieve at times.
Nice video Rod, thanks for the tip. May i ask you where this place is, because the river so busy this year. Thank you
It was busy where we were too.
Do you use scent on your soft beads if so what do you recommend for kings?
We don’t use scent on them. 🙂
I’m in a bait ban river so I’ve been using bnr beads for awhile now, I just thought of using nail glue or gorilla glue to keep the bead from sliding, not sure if that will cause a scent or if its legal lol.
Hi Rod, thanks for posting, I try to learn from all these and started using more spoons after watching that episode. In the canal you feature here, can you use spoons?
I have done well with spoons in the canal but it can be a nightmare because there are so many snags around.
im planning on going to vedder tommorow do you think its worth it to go to the canal for chinook or just go for coho somewere else
The canal turns on and off based on the tide, so you don't know until you try it.
Awesome video! Just out of interest why do most people in BC run mono line on their float setups? Down in the states we run braid and then a mono bumper.
Quite a few anglers would run braided as main for their float fishing setup in BC actually. I have tried it, but personally I didn't like it and using 15lb mono as my main is still the way I like it.
Rod, why do they call them 'Springs'?
I thought the less chrome fish were 'Springs' because they had been in the fresh water longer.....?
The first salmon to come back in the spring are chinook in late April early may hence the colquial name springs or kings in USA all chinook salmon
Great videos Rod! I am starting in Salmon fishing and your videos have taught me so much! I have heard you saying Springs multiple times. I know you are referring to Chinook, but what do you mean when you say spring? Does it mean a young chinook? Or a wild chinook? Thanks for everything!
A spring is just another name for a adult spring that people like to say once a chinook enters the vedder river
Hi Rod. I caught a fin clipped spring on the Vedder. Is the hatchery clipping some springs? I remember there used to be a head return protocol for fin clipped springs because they were tagged and they wanted the heads back for data. Is that still in place? Also any info the genetics of the fall return Vedder chinook "White" vs "marbled" vs "red" flesh? I caught all three but there seems to be a lot more reds and marbles around, at least when I caught my fish which is early in the run, last two weeks of September. I tend to get my limit and rarely take springs in October so I don't know if the reds and marbles are as plentiful later in the run. I definitely prefer the reds for flavor but white tastes good.
The hatchery clips about 10% of the chinook salmon, but that will go up in the coming years as the program is changing. Two hatchery stocks of chinook salmon exist in the Chilliwack River, and they both were introduced. The summer run is red, and the fall run is mainly white. In recently years we've seen more reds mixed in with the whites throughout September. The mechanism behind this shift is not really known, but I'm sure no one is complaining. :)
Hi Rod, really enjoy your vids.
What would be the travel time of these fish on a high tide to the Vedder canal if you know. (roughly)
Thanks
Darryl
From where, the mouth of Fraser River? Probably a day or two would be my guess.
I've heard people say fish the lower Vedder 3 to 6 hours after a high tide, not a day or two. I'm confused!
Thanks
Darryl@@FishingwithRod
@@Darryl58 That's referring to 3 to 6 hours after the high tide in Vancouver, because that'd be the high tide in the canal.
OK Rod Thank you.
Guess I'm getting old and slow!
Really enjoy your videos.
Darryl@@FishingwithRod
@@Darryl58 Totally legit questions, no worries. The tide and how it influences the fish movement in the canal is something that I am still constantly learning too. Just when I think we got it figured out, the fish surprise us everytime.
I’m pretty confident I’d do a face plant there if I hooked a fish😝🎣
And I have done exactly just that a few years ago except the camera was off. 😆
Rod.... been looking at all sorts of chest waders and almost all have good comments and bad comments... and every one of them in the bad comments talks about leaks and failures fairly quickly. What chest waders do you use and do you recommend any?
Yeah unfortunately leaks will always happen regardless how much money you spend on a pair, but a lot of it comes down to how much you take care of or abuse them. I wear a pair of Simms G3 Guide waders which honestly are the best I've had. They are really comfortable, light and at the end of the day you won't feel tired. I've had this pair since January 2019 and so far no leaks here, but I also baby them a lot, by avoiding bushwacking, or taking my time to walk through the forest if I do have to etc, and cleaning them regularly after fishing.
Are you allowed to target later season chinook on the Capilano rivee
I would check the regs to see if it is open
Awesome video
Thanks!
I’m just wondering why you cast your line and then change hands instead of leaving the rod in your casting position? I would find that to complicated, again just wondering
It’s just a habit that has stuck with me for the past 40 years. I can also do left hand retrieves, but this is the routine that works for me.
@@FishingwithRod okay I get it, because I see a lot of people do this, just wondering is all
Hey Rod, how heavy of weight would you recommend?
It depends on the size of your float.
We were at lickman road and we got 2 big kings. one on vibrax and one on bnr beads.
I got a spring at Lickman on Sunday. My first ever spring..
Yay!
I caught a 30lb Chinook there yesterday
Landing springs from that spot is real struggle…
Haha yes!
G. Loomis is great. Awesome rods☝️
Would love to fish that river 1 day…do you do guided trips?? Coming from seattle..thanks
I don’t guide but I do know quite a few licensed guides who can provide that service for you. 🙂
So many snags in that spot😂 I couldn't do it
I thought you're a risk taker... 😂
How many pounds the leather you use and how long?
Not so sure about leather 😉 but my leader is either 12 or 15lb test Seaguar STS fluorocarbon. I would check out this video to learn more about the setup: th-cam.com/video/A-3pYqpsi0w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FP4yevek8C7pKS-E
Where is this place? What river?
I totally don’t remember after I mentioned it in the video.
Is this in Washington state?
No.
Are you sponsored by these companies or is this what you like after trying different setups?
It’s both.
Hey rod, great video! I had a question about the regs on springs. Can I keep wild ones? Thanks for the help!
For chinook salmon, there in fact aren’t any wild fish (for this time of the year anyway). This chinook salmon stock is entirely produced by the hatchery and unlike hatchery coho salmon, most of them are not adipose clipped. So the short answer is that yes you can keep unclipped chinook salmon.
@@FishingwithRod oh ok!! Thanks for that! And any coho I catch have to be clipped.
That's correct, from the Vedder. Generally, only hatchery marked coho salmon can be kept, but every river system has its own regulations so best to double check.
Shimano technium is a cheaper option? You have been really spoiled with gear because the Shimano clarus is a high end rod for most people 😂
Cheaper… not cheapest. 😉 Shimano Clarus has been discontinued and the remaining inventory at the local stores are now for sale at great prices if you can still find them. compre will be the new series to replace Clarus and IMO those are the rods to get for anyone who is just starting out and intends to try for a couple seasons. Technium would be one step up but IMO if you are upgrading, just jump up to a E6X, IMX. They are so much nicer for a bit more 💴.
@@FishingwithRod Thanks for the advice!
Also remember, fish can’t see down
Rod, you need to visit the weight room so the fish don’t pull you in.
💪
Who is that handsome angler in the green jacket…?
🤨
Hello rod I have just started salmon fishing a large river. I already have an 8ft 6inch okuma celilo medium action 8-17lb line rating. Would that be sufficient for king salmon fishing.
Yes it’ll work, just have your drag set right
@@TheHappySmileyFace12 ok thanks
Yep that setup is totally fine. It of course would also depend on the size of chinook salmon you are catching.
@@FishingwithRod I'm not sure how big they are but pretty big. Could I catch kings on a 12-20lb medium action spinning rod with 2500 size reel. I put 30lb braid on it with 17lb mono leader
2500 is a little small for chinook salmon, but it'll do the job once awhile. Over time it may be a problem. 3000 would be better. I use my 2500 reels for coho salmon and occasionally will bring in chinook salmon, no problem with that. Your spinning reel is good for what you want to do.
None of them are biting…. It’s a technique called lining or “ganking”.
The fish are visible, almost dead and gilling hard….. in two feet of water. The egg is to float the hook some and make it visible so you can tell when you’re leader lays right in their gaping mouth…. Raise the rod and whamo….. you snagged one right in the mouth.
Hope it spawned already…. Which it why it spent its life to get there.
You guys are studs!
Thank you! 😃
How come your support an American company but cleardrift is in your backyard ? It's sad to see you and stores support american company over a Canadian one? Bnr is over priced man
What difference does it make? People make their own choices; we need a bunch of robots out there.
@@andrewwood4013one helps the Canadian economy and the other one doesn’t help the doesn’t
Why isn’t flossing banned? It doesn’t make any sense to me why people can still do it.
@@thomasszeman9663these fish are biting the soft beads. That's how it works. Obviously there is the random one that was accidentally flossed. But you don't floss with a short leader and a float.
Well why don't you make a company that supplies to most fishing stores and make it really cheap then we'll all buy from you. Jeez think about the way you sound. Your being really rude.
Youtuners blowing up spots is the reason thebrivers are so busy these days. I know the spot you are fishing here and I expect it to be blown now
You know the spot?? 😱
😂 your a joke buddy
Never been spooled? Lol you havent lived.kalum river should change that for you lol
Nobody should get spooled, it's the worst thing that could happen to our waterways when several hundred yards of line end up in them. Whenever I feel that I don't have control of a fish that's too big for my setup, I usually choose to break off instead of letting it take all my line until I might lose it all.
Amen. I pulled about 150m of mono out of the canal today.