I played the demo and for someone that loves Chinese history and folklore this was my cup of tea. We don't see much major games set in China so i'm glad to see this coming from Team Ninja. I was very interested in seeing how TN would implement Chinese martial arts into the combat and they did amazing. I thought was really well done. It reminds me of growing up watching Chinese martial arts movies like Jet Li, Jackie Chan or Wuxia shows. Oh yeah regarding you saying that it was like a dance yes Kung Fu is known to be like a dance. So that's another kudo points for Team Ninja!
@@Mika-Fresh i only know about Sword and Fairy 7. Yes i'm glad to see China game devs finally taking ownership to making major games about their culture. Im very excited for Black Myth Wukong and Where Winds Meet. And again games set in China were never on the mainstream. Game devs know games set in Japan would sell compared to a game set in China.
This looks good. Team Ninja has a good track record of taking feedback from the nioh alpha & beta tests hopefully they take feedback from the demo here as well.
Looks like they addressed some of the issues you had, in the new gameplay there's audio feedback on deflects and the window for it is slightly bigger. The heal animation is also quicker now.
I played this demo using a water build and an armorless fire build on separate playthroughs. Gotta say, after my insatiable addictions to Nioh 1 and (my favorite ARPG now) Nioh 2, I'm nothing short of incredibly hyped for Wo Long. I can definitely attest that the deflect window being far too small is a general consensus with players and I've seen people take issue with the healing button being unresponsive at times. Thankfully, as we've seen with Nioh 1 & 2's demos and alphas, Team Ninja really likes to take feedback to heart and every final product has been better than their initial demos so far. I have no doubts this will help make 2023 a great year for gaming!
Just came by to watch this, surprised you put this out ahead by 5 months with this review lmao Edit: I realize this isn’t a review, but more of an opinion based on the game version from months ago. Go check out his actual review on his channel, it’s solid, as Matty always does
I played the demo last night with a friend and had a ton of fun but it definitely needs some improvement. There needs to be more audible and visual feedback for successfully deflecting an attack. Half the time I thought I took damage when I actually successfully dodged. The morale system has huge potential but I thought it was way too easy to dodge your way into max redbar, but this def could be a skill issue! Loved the boss at the end
From what I understand the dodge has barely any i-frames. Also it requires a double tap, so it doesn't come out immediately. The dodge in this game seems to be mostly a tool to quickly reposition yourself, rather than a dodge-through-incoming-attacks like in Souls games.
@@Justin-Thyme i think the didge is a risk reward thing. If its a difficult mover with hard deflrct timing ? Should I deflect and risk my health or should i dodge and avoid damge but take a chunk of my qi bar and put myself in a bad position if i get hit later. I think its a very good system that has a lot of advantages for skilled players. I was having trouble with the demo boss before i decided to play aggressive and deflect because that allowed me to increase my meter and decrease his and i was surprised how quick the fight went. Overall i think this system will benefit a lot in the long run if the deflect feedback was more fine tuned and the deflect timing was increased by just a bit.
@@Jack_80 because you’re supposed to play it more like Sekiro and parry attacks, not try to dodge thru everything. it’s NOT a nioh sequel. don’t play it like that. i don’t know if it’s zero s like the other guy was saying tho. definitely reduced s tho, since it’s not supto be a get out of jail free card. but yeah, if you go into this thinking “well it’s just nioh 3,” you’re gonna have a bad time
BTW, the "stamina" gauge is called the Spirit gauge. Morale rank is the number above your health bar, and the Fortitude rank is the minimum amount of Morale you get on respawn.
I finished the demo just half an hour ago. Its very solid for what it was. My only real issues were that heal animation is a but too long and the deflect timing a bit too tight.( just think it needs to be increases by a smidge, for normal enemies at least if not for bosses, actually i take that back increase boss deflect timing by just a smidge too.)
the gear you wear / your weapon can affect the deflect timing. while it takes a cue from sekiro with the system, it’s not a one to one. if you look at your weapon stats you’ll notice they all have different percentages for deflecting, the higher it is, the easier it is to deflect with a certain weapon, (usually if it’s big and slow to attack, it’s easier to deflect with) try using a different weapon and see how that goes. while it doesn’t really play like Nioh, team ninja definitely used a lot of the stat mechanics from those games… they made a weird sekiro/nioh hybrid that if you try to play like nioh, you’ll have a bad time, but if you think it’s like sekiro where your deflect is gonna be the same regardless your gear… well. you’ll also have a bad time. another example, your gear weight is also gonna effect the spirit bar, specifically how much specials and spells will cost, unlike say with sekiro where your special attacks always had the same spirit emblem cost. it’s interesting what they’ve cherry picked from each game and how they’ve mashed it in.
As a huge fan of Dynasty Warriors growing up and recently getting into Fromsoft games, I'm really looking forward to this. I loved Sekiro but I also love RPG's and happy to hear that's a stronger focus here.
Dynasty warriors game were my childhood, but do you think they’ll ever make an actually modern game on par with this generation’s AA-AAA titles? Wish they would
@@coreyveggies9894 Big warriors fan here too, and in recent years these games have been underwhelming. Especially DW9 and 9E. Tbh I doubt that much will change with this franchise but never know.
Matty…. You’re letting me down, Sekiro is your game. There’s even choice and consequence. Without spoilers you can choose a bad ending to the game about 2/3s through and as a result miss one of the best and biggest areas in the game and about a 1/4th of the main bosses. From took some risks with that. There’s four endings based on your in game decisions, the late game bosses are some of the best ever made in gaming and the story is so so good. I think give it another shot and celebrate that from did something new! I would love a full review after you’ve played it through!
I never cared to try Nioh until I watched Maximilian Dood stream it from 4 or whatever years ago. Decided to grab the collection and it's now one of my top games of all time and a direct result of my hype for Wo Long. I'm still playing Nioh 2 and on the last DLC before I ramp up the difficulty 😎
If you crave for more, try stranger of paradise hard mode without buddies. Still not as hard as nioh, but very cool imo. Build variety rocks. And the game also has that post game.
Brother I hope you find your way back to sekiro. Quitting at genichiro is bonkers, you're just getting started. Once you learn to do the dance you'll fall in love like the rest of us weirdos
Rweally guys, I swear! Sekiro wasn't hard, I just quit half way through after the first mid boss cause I there weren't enough RPG elements. I swear. I totally beat Nioh 2 too." Mash X to doubt.
Not sure how I felt about the health bar on the middle of the screen, the counter system or the morale system I only got to play 30 mins and haven’t adjusted as much yet but I will be back to to play more but from what I did play it was okay I love the setting and stuff but I’ll still be buying it day one I do like the combat I think just some adjusting room is needed for me personally
@@DV-ou1yu yes! I loved both Nioh 1 and Nioh 2 the second being one of my fav games ever which is why im willing to give this game more of a chance as soon as my job lets me! To be off
@@HDGaminTutorials - the director of Nioh didn’t rule out a Nioh 3, but said they wanted to explore other game ideas before possibly coming back to make a Nioh 3
When I started sekiro I felt the exact same way but after the first playthrough something clicked and now it's one of my favorite games they've done. It really comes down to mastering the parry mechanic and once that happens it's just non stop fun.
That’s probably because I went in thinking that Sekiro was a Souls like game. Marty is going wrong by comparing Wo Long to Sekiro. Wo Long is a Souls like game whereas Sekiro more in common with Tenchu since it was suppose to be a new Tenchu game
Yes. I absolutely hated sekiro when it first came out. After I beat Elden ring, I went back to sekiro and although I love Elden ring more. Sekiro is so far ahead combat wise that it’s nuts. You master the parry and you master the game. Sekiro is a top5 to 10 game all time.
I love chinese fantasy alot, my only problem with this game is the deflect button being the same as the dodge button when it should just be connected to the guard button, I also think the sense of difficulty is kinda wack it randomly gets really hard but is super easy other times for that boss his first phase you can literally hitstun lock him and then the second is a actual fight. I think the Ui needs a bit of work cause there was so much shit on my screen I was like what is going on. I like the game but those issues need to be worked out especially the deflect thing, I hate when games do that tie 2 buttons together that shouldnt be tied together.
@@DV-ou1yu Their level design has never been good either but their combat is usually what makes you come to their games maybe cause I am comparing to souls games where the level design is next level, but with this game I dont understand the idea of exploring the map, because you dont find anything for doing it. Honestly I am fine with a hack and slash if they just get the difficulty right, deflect and that overdone UI.
yeah, i don’t know why they made it like that. i guess they didn’t want you to get a regular block if you messed up the parry timing, so you couldn’t just spam the button like you could in some situations in sekiro? honestly that’s the only good reason i can think of. 🤷♂️
@@maximusstorm1215 No Just could not get into. The Fact you have some many playstyle Takes away from the boss fights. Sekrio and Bloodbourne had bosses that were designed around there combat.
Zhang Liang was never playable in Dynasty Warriors. You're probably thinking of Zhang Fei from the "Shu" faction, because he looks similar to the Zhang Liang of this game.
Strangers of Paradise is Team Ninja's latest. A bit easier than their usual stuff so it's a good taster for their design paradigm, if you are unsure of their difficulty level.
It’s an okay game with a decent bit of potential. The parry system needs a lot of work from my experience and considering the game is pretty heavily based around it; I’ll skip out unless it’s worked on a bit. Game looks pretty at least.
I played the demo on my fiancée's series S because it isn't available on PC and I assume it's only at 30fps on the PS4. I did enjoy it quite a bit, but the lack of visual/audio feedback from parrying really did make combat feel worse for me. I'm looking forward to the full game, but what I've seen so far doesn't live up to Sekiro or NIOH 2 for me personally. I really would suggest that you give Sekiro another go. It only gets better and better as you go on, and after Genichiro is kind of when you start seeing all of the more interesting bosses/environments.
It's not going to be 30fps you drone. Dumb assumption considering Team Ninja makes sure it's 60fps across the board. Which is why rise of the Ronin is PS5 exclusive and Pc.🤡🤡😌
@@thecasualfly Glad I'm not the only one who had that problem. I didn't have to much trouble deflecting humans, but monsters on the other hand was terrible, I didn't even realize you could deflect them, I tried it, but I couldn't tell if I deflected anything or not.
Matt are you going to comment on Dan Allen being outed as the Assassins Creed Mirage leaker? This is something that would make it harder for content creators like yourself to get early access to games.
Hey dude, thank you for making this video. I found it really helpful, fun to watch, and for some reason I want to say "balanced"? (Probably because I spend a lot of time thinking about "balance" in games! Haha). Anyway, good stuff. Oh! And two other quick things. There are people in the comments here moaning about a) use of the word "brutally" in the video title. And b) asking each other "why does anyone even care about TH-camrs' opinions?". So, in answer to a) it's just simple CTR logic. People are more likely to click on that. If they have a problem with it, I would suggest they stop clicking on those thumbnails. And as for b) like dude, *they're* the ones who are literally watching (and thus caring) about a TH-camr's opinion! And I don't use the word 'ironic' lightly (as I have a pet peeve when people miss-use it just meaning bad luck), but the irony in this complaint makes me feel calm and happy against their outrage. Keep up the good work 👊💜
While I still loved sekiro, I actually was never a fan of the deflect system, I get it, looks cooler than dodging I guess, but while the posture system had so much potential it always ended up feeling like I was playing guitar hero to me, not really sure I like wo long moving towards that direction but we'll see, after a few videos it does seem like it retains some of Nioh 2's fast, aggressive combo based combat, which I loved, so we'll see
I think it is really important to point out that having a sizable gameplay during the showcase and announce a demo right after is a rare trait in the industry nowsdays. The demo is not only so much fun but it also took me about 2~3 hours to explore and I definitely want to see more. The combat system is innovated upon the nioh formula and i have to say it fits the Chinese folklore very well! Where nioh emphasizes the concept of ''zanshin'' which is a core practice in kendo and in wo long using the concept of deflect, ''qishi'' and morale found in wushu and warfare in ancient China, and also having the elements as level up traits is pretty cool, though the downside is the leveling up is a bit simplified. Overall the game is set in a really chaotic and most interesting historic period in China, the combat is already fun and there is so much potential in terms of story, really look forward to the release.
Hey I said the same thing cause I kept dodging when trying to parry and I realized there is literally a block button so why is deflect tied to the dodge button.
So excited for this game. First, I’m a Three Kingdoms era fan. Originally from Dynasty Warriors (from when I was a kid!), but later sat down and read Luo Guanzhong’s The Romance. And second, I really, really wanted to love Sekiro. But the allure of Soulsborne games for me comes largely from the RPG elements, and Sekiro lacked in those. I still liked it, but like you said, it just didn’t hit the sweet spot. I feel like Wo Long will combine everything I love about lore and gameplay. I hope! Way too excited for this one.
I echo the sentiment around the parry and the heal mechanic, but also I did not enjoy that the character felt like “floating” during the walk animation. It needs more weight. Remember to fill the survey with your feedback!
First of all this is one of your better videos. Secondly Nioh2 in my humble opinion far out paces any of the Dark Souls games, even elden ring for the most part... in what it does, & how it executes on it, not to mention all the cool ass different feeling weapons you get. Anyways, I beat the Wo Long demo, & I didn't really get the "deflection" mechanic down pat.. believe it or not, I was able to use stealth, to some degree to take down most enemies... But what I felt like, that you mentioned, was once I got the deflection down better, that it was really going to add some depth to the combat experience...
Nioh and Nioh 2 are so different from the FromSoft games though.. I don’t thinks it fair to say that one is clearly better than the other. FromSoft puts SO MUCH MORE focus on level design and exploration that it makes it an entirely different game. Nioh, on the other hand, is all about the fast paced combat. I love both but I’ll always be a FromSoftware fanboy. I’ve played all of their games.
I feel like you should give sekiro a replay someday! Only beating genichiro is where I stopped at for so long. One day I decided I was going to sit down and finally beat it.... ONE OF MY FAVORITE GAMES EVER
I also did not enjoy Sekiro all that much. I finished once and never looked back.I think it's the lack of weapon variety and RPG building, yes. Also the deflecting was a bit meme and felt passive sometimes; weirdly enough I also prefer to make my own character.
This is one of the games I was waiting for I'm really ready for that new Monkey King game to come out and I hope will finally get lost so aside I mean we've been waiting quite a while for it but I expected these three games to set a standard it looks good but we'll just have to wait and see what the final product looks like
I only play sekiro when I want that of the feeling of, im just a normal dood doing crazy shet and beating the fuck out of these big or op mc type characters. (Also the satisfying parry and the good feeling of overcoming the odds with pure skill)
Loved Nioh, and I'm starting Nioh 2 soon. This game looks good, but I'm wondering how Rise Of The Ronin is going to differ from this and Nioh. This looks different enough from Nioh, but it's pretty obvious Team Ninja made both if you're familiar with them. I'm wondering what RotR is going to do that's different, unless it's going to be even less loot/build focused.
Wu Long looks like the type of Wuxia or Wuxia ish game makes me hype for it I love Chinese settings even if China is a shit place to be right now. Seeing such good feedback makes me wanna play this. Will preorder for sure
Dude, I’m so excited for this game. After I finished Sekiro I was told that Nioh 2 is very similar. Nioh 2 is fun, but I do have a few problems with it. Wo Long looks like it’s resolved all of the issues I had with Nioh 2. I never preorder games, but I might have to break that streak
@@makefoxhoundgreatagain842 I am actually going to wait until reviews and more gameplay. I’m not 100% on board yet and can definitely wait a week before buying. I’ve been getting further in Nioh 2 and I’m starting to see some more flaws. Still a fun game, but I’m not sure if I can play 2 Team Ninja games in a row lol
@@Devon.with.an.i wise dude. I'm very excited for the release but not going to make the mistake of preordering, totally with you wait for gameplay and reviews (ign, skillup, gamespot, acg, gaming bolt etc) and also check the metacritic user and critic score. I'll have a good idea then I don't know why I have this gut feeling this isn't going to be groundbreaking and pretty average but I really want to be wrong
Completely agree with Sekiro. I beat the game, but it was the only modern Fromsoft game Injust didn’t love. Would rather play the original Demons Souls again than go back to Sekiro.
Wo Long gives me heavy Nioh, Ninja Gaiden, Dynasty Warriors and Sekiro Vibes and I'm loving it. The gameplay walkthrough we saw was very good, the mechanics seem deep and skill based, combat/spells seem great and engaging and the environments are highly detailed. I'm really looking forward to seeing getting my hands on this game one of my most anticipated of 2023.
Wo long demo was really fun, had a lot of mobility That I love to see, still has plenty of gameplay options like nioh 2's burst attack/counter gameplay and another take at spirit guardians from nioh 1 except a tad bland in comparison without the unique flare of special movesets; instead opting for just a seemingly standard weapon buff (and having to choose either the weapon buff or the actual spirit attack seperately). On another note that rare L sekiro take matty you need to push forward some more man, saying you stopped on Genichiro Is like someone playing dark souls and quitting after beating Taurus demon; like my guy there is an entire game full to the brim with some of the best stuff fromsoftware ever made back there! That stuff was practically the tutorial 😔
I gave up on dark souls games, tried Neoh 1 and all I did was get my butt kicked. Just too hard for me....wish I could play them though cause they seem really cool. The lore and everything.....I’ve been playing Cyberpunk 2077 a ton lately. I love ❤️ the game now ! I literally shelved it since launch...
It is not a morale gauge. It is a spirit gauge. You're morale is that number from 1 to 20 above the spirit gauge. Also I cannot believe you quit sekiro at genichiro. There are so many more good bosses after that. Sekiro offers some of the best boss fights in gaming history.
Sekiro is one of my favourite games of the last few years, once you get-in to it, understand and upgrade the various powers, weapons and abilities it just gets better and better the further you progress into the game !! Plus, Naturally, it's also got the 'From Software' challenging gameplay which you have to improve your skills and learn the game mechanics and your character etc. to be able to beat the game.....Button Bashing won't help you here.....Which is how games should be imo !!
Sekiro was a masterpiece. Its in my top 3 of favorite Fromsoft games. They always do a good job when then try something new with a new IP. Bloodborne, Sekiro, and Elden Ring were just beautiful.
Definitely enjoy the Nioh series more than my time with Wo Long. Still had a blast with the game but I find the combat a bit too slow and floaty with the jump feeling too weighty but not snappy enough. Especially compared to the dashing and regaining Ki in Nioh, it was a bit jarring. Love all the other new systems they have implanted but as of now, I’m definitely a bit more hype for the little we have seen of arise of the Ronin. WO Long will probably be still be a day one! (Unless they do another beta and it feels worse)
It seems like any game they make that is inspired by Nioh combat always feels off lol. Cuz i didn't like Stranger of Paradise. Well we will be the judge of that once the final product comes out. Hopefully Team Ninja takes the feedback into consideration from whoever has tried the demo.
@@mikekuzmicz8408 well there are dual swords. No you can't dual wield if you mean like in Dark Souls then no. But you can switch weapons and the game definitely encourages weapon switching.
Rage deleted it on 2nd attempt after crossing the bridge into that pit. The camera is PURE CRYSTALLINE JANK. I assume they’ll polish up the camera tracking as it’s way below the quality of FromSoft. Glad that it’s coming to gamepass so I’ll try it again on release. Nice concept but the camera is completely awful
It may be a Japanese made game, but lets be honest, they make just as many generic games as people outside of Japan do. Over the years many game developers borrow elements of gameplay from one another so that its not always clear. I think we can only definitely say that a game is made in definite "Japanese style" if it is some sort of manga RPG with a lot of dialogue that is largely referencing life in Japan and Japanese speaking world, and games that are known as soul-likes since that is just a relatively new genre.
My biggest pet peeve of the souls-like genre is that very rarely can other devs meaningfully innovate or improve their souls like games without waiting for Fromsoft to release their next game and then remixing whatever new mechanic From came up with. It puts me off to trying more of them for some reason. By the time I get tired of From games they come out with a new one and do a phenomenal job at taking feedback and improving their craft.
MATTY!! Haven’t watched the vid yet. Just 30 seconds in, XBOX game pass day 1 bros!! What. Okay. Let me get date on that, and like / watch the vid now.
You don't like Sekiro?! Broooooo. I hope you revisit it. It's one of my favorites. I enjoyed Ninja Gaiden. LOVED Nioh/2. I think this will be cool. I do agree the parry needs to be adjusted. Maybe a few more frames
I was really interested in Nioh before. I was just afraid of the difficulty, but Sekiro transformed me as a gamer and I beat Nioh 2. I'm wondering if Nioh 1 is still worth getting, but I'm definitly getting Wo Long
really need to play sekiro matty, even if you don't like it, Its one of the most regarded games of old gen , playing it and not liking it is way better than "it didn't click with me so I dropped it", taking into context that you review video games for a living
I played the demo and for someone that loves Chinese history and folklore this was my cup of tea. We don't see much major games set in China so i'm glad to see this coming from Team Ninja. I was very interested in seeing how TN would implement Chinese martial arts into the combat and they did amazing. I thought was really well done. It reminds me of growing up watching Chinese martial arts movies like Jet Li, Jackie Chan or Wuxia shows. Oh yeah regarding you saying that it was like a dance yes Kung Fu is known to be like a dance. So that's another kudo points for Team Ninja!
We genuinely need more games set in emperial China
@@Mika-Fresh i only know about Sword and Fairy 7. Yes i'm glad to see China game devs finally taking ownership to making major games about their culture. Im very excited for Black Myth Wukong and Where Winds Meet. And again games set in China were never on the mainstream. Game devs know games set in Japan would sell compared to a game set in China.
@@WVRLORD yes very true. There's a lot of creative things you can do with Imperial China.
@@Mika-Fresh not a good game honestly. Looks terrible from all gameplay I’ve seen
Are there hook swords in the game?
This looks good. Team Ninja has a good track record of taking feedback from the nioh alpha & beta tests hopefully they take feedback from the demo here as well.
Looks like they addressed some of the issues you had, in the new gameplay there's audio feedback on deflects and the window for it is slightly bigger. The heal animation is also quicker now.
I played this demo using a water build and an armorless fire build on separate playthroughs. Gotta say, after my insatiable addictions to Nioh 1 and (my favorite ARPG now) Nioh 2, I'm nothing short of incredibly hyped for Wo Long. I can definitely attest that the deflect window being far too small is a general consensus with players and I've seen people take issue with the healing button being unresponsive at times. Thankfully, as we've seen with Nioh 1 & 2's demos and alphas, Team Ninja really likes to take feedback to heart and every final product has been better than their initial demos so far. I have no doubts this will help make 2023 a great year for gaming!
Just came by to watch this, surprised you put this out ahead by 5 months with this review lmao
Edit: I realize this isn’t a review, but more of an opinion based on the game version from months ago. Go check out his actual review on his channel, it’s solid, as Matty always does
I played the demo last night with a friend and had a ton of fun but it definitely needs some improvement. There needs to be more audible and visual feedback for successfully deflecting an attack. Half the time I thought I took damage when I actually successfully dodged.
The morale system has huge potential but I thought it was way too easy to dodge your way into max redbar, but this def could be a skill issue! Loved the boss at the end
From what I understand the dodge has barely any i-frames. Also it requires a double tap, so it doesn't come out immediately. The dodge in this game seems to be mostly a tool to quickly reposition yourself, rather than a dodge-through-incoming-attacks like in Souls games.
Yeah I agree, I’ve played through it a few times and I enjoy it but I’m not sure I could really get into this as it is now.
@@Justin-Thyme i think the didge is a risk reward thing. If its a difficult mover with hard deflrct timing ? Should I deflect and risk my health or should i dodge and avoid damge but take a chunk of my qi bar and put myself in a bad position if i get hit later. I think its a very good system that has a lot of advantages for skilled players. I was having trouble with the demo boss before i decided to play aggressive and deflect because that allowed me to increase my meter and decrease his and i was surprised how quick the fight went. Overall i think this system will benefit a lot in the long run if the deflect feedback was more fine tuned and the deflect timing was increased by just a bit.
@Garthavan what reason is that? nioh 2 has i-frames when rolling and i still find that game plenty challenging.
@@Jack_80 because you’re supposed to play it more like Sekiro and parry attacks, not try to dodge thru everything. it’s NOT a nioh sequel. don’t play it like that.
i don’t know if it’s zero s like the other guy was saying tho. definitely reduced s tho, since it’s not supto be a get out of jail free card.
but yeah, if you go into this thinking “well it’s just nioh 3,” you’re gonna have a bad time
BTW, the "stamina" gauge is called the Spirit gauge. Morale rank is the number above your health bar, and the Fortitude rank is the minimum amount of Morale you get on respawn.
I finished the demo just half an hour ago. Its very solid for what it was. My only real issues were that heal animation is a but too long and the deflect timing a bit too tight.( just think it needs to be increases by a smidge, for normal enemies at least if not for bosses, actually i take that back increase boss deflect timing by just a smidge too.)
the gear you wear / your weapon can affect the deflect timing. while it takes a cue from sekiro with the system, it’s not a one to one. if you look at your weapon stats you’ll notice they all have different percentages for deflecting, the higher it is, the easier it is to deflect with a certain weapon, (usually if it’s big and slow to attack, it’s easier to deflect with)
try using a different weapon and see how that goes. while it doesn’t really play like Nioh, team ninja definitely used a lot of the stat mechanics from those games… they made a weird sekiro/nioh hybrid that if you try to play like nioh, you’ll have a bad time, but if you think it’s like sekiro where your deflect is gonna be the same regardless your gear… well. you’ll also have a bad time.
another example, your gear weight is also gonna effect the spirit bar, specifically how much specials and spells will cost, unlike say with sekiro where your special attacks always had the same spirit emblem cost. it’s interesting what they’ve cherry picked from each game and how they’ve mashed it in.
@@mkv2718 yeah, I noticed all this stuff in the latest demo .
I loved it. Cannot wait for the full game. Need to support this game!
As a huge fan of Dynasty Warriors growing up and recently getting into Fromsoft games, I'm really looking forward to this. I loved Sekiro but I also love RPG's and happy to hear that's a stronger focus here.
Dynasty warriors game were my childhood, but do you think they’ll ever make an actually modern game on par with this generation’s AA-AAA titles? Wish they would
@@coreyveggies9894 Big warriors fan here too, and in recent years these games have been underwhelming.
Especially DW9 and 9E.
Tbh I doubt that much will change with this franchise but never know.
well, sekiro wasn’t an rpg at all, so yeah.. there was no focus on that stuff. it was just an action game unlike the soul games.
Started playing the demo today and enjoying it so far . .once you pick up the mechanics you can start taking on harder enemies etc
That flying boss level 20 tho 😅
Can't wait for you to hit 500k Matty🙏 that's a huge milestone
Matty…. You’re letting me down, Sekiro is your game. There’s even choice and consequence. Without spoilers you can choose a bad ending to the game about 2/3s through and as a result miss one of the best and biggest areas in the game and about a 1/4th of the main bosses. From took some risks with that. There’s four endings based on your in game decisions, the late game bosses are some of the best ever made in gaming and the story is so so good. I think give it another shot and celebrate that from did something new! I would love a full review after you’ve played it through!
I never cared to try Nioh until I watched Maximilian Dood stream it from 4 or whatever years ago. Decided to grab the collection and it's now one of my top games of all time and a direct result of my hype for Wo Long. I'm still playing Nioh 2 and on the last DLC before I ramp up the difficulty 😎
once you get to floors 55 to 70 in the underworld, Dream of the Nioh becomes light work.
Ya would have loved to have played those games but they sadly never would come to xbox cause I believe sony published them
If you crave for more, try stranger of paradise hard mode without buddies.
Still not as hard as nioh, but very cool imo.
Build variety rocks.
And the game also has that post game.
Thank you.
I played the demo and enjoyed it so much.
Can’t wait to play again this coming Friday.
Brother I hope you find your way back to sekiro. Quitting at genichiro is bonkers, you're just getting started. Once you learn to do the dance you'll fall in love like the rest of us weirdos
Man, this demo was fire. Finally tried it this morning and got totally hooked. Wish I could play more already.
A man who couldn't click with sekiro, cannot be trusted.
Rweally guys, I swear! Sekiro wasn't hard, I just quit half way through after the first mid boss cause I there weren't enough RPG elements. I swear. I totally beat Nioh 2 too."
Mash X to doubt.
Not sure how I felt about the health bar on the middle of the screen, the counter system or the morale system I only got to play 30 mins and haven’t adjusted as much yet but I will be back to to play more but from what I did play it was okay I love the setting and stuff but I’ll still be buying it day one I do like the combat I think just some adjusting room is needed for me personally
Once a team ninja game clicks, it clicks. You'll get there. Took a while for both Nioh 1 and 2 to click when I played them
@@DV-ou1yu yes! I loved both Nioh 1 and Nioh 2 the second being one of my fav games ever which is why im willing to give this game more of a chance as soon as my job lets me! To be off
I finished the demo and it needs to change a lot to be even considered decent, nioh 2 is still their best game ever
I enjoyed the demo, but I like Nioh and Nioh 2 more at this point. That could definitely change when the full game is out though. Lookin forward to it
The Nioh games were just too good.
To bad they didnt sell that well or we could have gotten a nioh 3
With an actual open world instead of the mission segments
@@HDGaminTutorials - the director of Nioh didn’t rule out a Nioh 3, but said they wanted to explore other game ideas before possibly coming back to make a Nioh 3
There's no way in HELL you;'ve finished Shekiro.
No fucking way
When I started sekiro I felt the exact same way but after the first playthrough something clicked and now it's one of my favorite games they've done. It really comes down to mastering the parry mechanic and once that happens it's just non stop fun.
That’s probably because I went in thinking that Sekiro was a Souls like game. Marty is going wrong by comparing Wo Long to Sekiro. Wo Long is a Souls like game whereas Sekiro more in common with Tenchu since it was suppose to be a new Tenchu game
Yes. I absolutely hated sekiro when it first came out. After I beat Elden ring, I went back to sekiro and although I love Elden ring more. Sekiro is so far ahead combat wise that it’s nuts. You master the parry and you master the game. Sekiro is a top5 to 10 game all time.
I love chinese fantasy alot, my only problem with this game is the deflect button being the same as the dodge button when it should just be connected to the guard button, I also think the sense of difficulty is kinda wack it randomly gets really hard but is super easy other times for that boss his first phase you can literally hitstun lock him and then the second is a actual fight. I think the Ui needs a bit of work cause there was so much shit on my screen I was like what is going on. I like the game but those issues need to be worked out especially the deflect thing, I hate when games do that tie 2 buttons together that shouldnt be tied together.
Man, Nioh has this same issue with difficulty pacing. It's definitely a mess. Team Ninja are horrible at balancing difficulty
@@DV-ou1yu Their level design has never been good either but their combat is usually what makes you come to their games maybe cause I am comparing to souls games where the level design is next level, but with this game I dont understand the idea of exploring the map, because you dont find anything for doing it. Honestly I am fine with a hack and slash if they just get the difficulty right, deflect and that overdone UI.
yeah, i don’t know why they made it like that. i guess they didn’t want you to get a regular block if you messed up the parry timing, so you couldn’t just spam the button like you could in some situations in sekiro?
honestly that’s the only good reason i can think of. 🤷♂️
I really enjoyed Jade Empire on the original Xbox, wish they would’ve made part 2 or even a remastered would be fine!!
I wish we got a sequel for the game I really love tht game and KOTOR 1
It really deserves a new game! It's a shame it kinda went under the radar.
The way you felt with sekrio was me with Elden ring.
That it lacked the RPG element? Are you kidding? It's one of the least linear games there is.
@@maximusstorm1215 No Just could not get into. The Fact you have some many playstyle Takes away from the boss fights. Sekrio and Bloodbourne had bosses that were designed around there combat.
Zhang Liang was never playable in Dynasty Warriors. You're probably thinking of Zhang Fei from the "Shu" faction, because he looks similar to the Zhang Liang of this game.
YUP! You're right. Thanks for this correction :)
japan will be playing this game like crazy on PS4 & PS5
Almost half a million let’s go Matty
Review starts at 3:43
Came here for a Wo Long review. Leaving to play Jade Empire after the background music awoke the urge in me.
Strangers of Paradise is Team Ninja's latest. A bit easier than their usual stuff so it's a good taster for their design paradigm, if you are unsure of their difficulty level.
You didnt like Sekiro or Yakuza Like a Dragon? oh man.... those are two of my favorite games ever. I'll show myself out.
It’s an okay game with a decent bit of potential. The parry system needs a lot of work from my experience and considering the game is pretty heavily based around it; I’ll skip out unless it’s worked on a bit. Game looks pretty at least.
I played the demo on my fiancée's series S because it isn't available on PC and I assume it's only at 30fps on the PS4. I did enjoy it quite a bit, but the lack of visual/audio feedback from parrying really did make combat feel worse for me. I'm looking forward to the full game, but what I've seen so far doesn't live up to Sekiro or NIOH 2 for me personally. I really would suggest that you give Sekiro another go. It only gets better and better as you go on, and after Genichiro is kind of when you start seeing all of the more interesting bosses/environments.
It's not going to be 30fps you drone. Dumb assumption considering Team Ninja makes sure it's 60fps across the board.
Which is why rise of the Ronin is PS5 exclusive and Pc.🤡🤡😌
Did anyone else have problems with the lock on system, it found it very difficult to target the right enemy with multiple foes.
Yeah it jumped around too much at times.. also deflecting sometimes just didn't work and maybe it came down to my spirit being exhausted
@@thecasualfly Glad I'm not the only one who had that problem. I didn't have to much trouble deflecting humans, but monsters on the other hand was terrible, I didn't even realize you could deflect them, I tried it, but I couldn't tell if I deflected anything or not.
Lies of P is Korean, not Japanese, but yes I am also excited for it
Not digging the health bar right in the middle of the screen. Are they serious??
CANT WAIT FOR P E R S O N A 5 💕
What Matty is really saying “… I beat Genichiro … couldn’t beat owl father … quit.”
right lol idk why he tries to hide that
After the awesome parrying on Sekiro, Wo Long felt kinda bad. I didn't play it for long though.
I played the entire demo and the deflect/parry felt terrible, that and the input lag on healing left a bitter taste in my mouth.
@@burtonboarder503is it the same demo that is out now? Although it isn’t sekiro, I’m absolutely loving it. Beat demo twice
Matt are you going to comment on Dan Allen being outed as the Assassins Creed Mirage leaker? This is something that would make it harder for content creators like yourself to get early access to games.
Keep it up Matty!
Recognised that Jade Empire music right away lmao
Wo Long has a Chinese setting so Matty definitely knows what he's doing. A man of culture. 😎
Hey dude, thank you for making this video. I found it really helpful, fun to watch, and for some reason I want to say "balanced"? (Probably because I spend a lot of time thinking about "balance" in games! Haha). Anyway, good stuff.
Oh! And two other quick things. There are people in the comments here moaning about a) use of the word "brutally" in the video title. And b) asking each other "why does anyone even care about TH-camrs' opinions?". So, in answer to a) it's just simple CTR logic. People are more likely to click on that. If they have a problem with it, I would suggest they stop clicking on those thumbnails. And as for b) like dude, *they're* the ones who are literally watching (and thus caring) about a TH-camr's opinion! And I don't use the word 'ironic' lightly (as I have a pet peeve when people miss-use it just meaning bad luck), but the irony in this complaint makes me feel calm and happy against their outrage.
Keep up the good work 👊💜
While I still loved sekiro, I actually was never a fan of the deflect system, I get it, looks cooler than dodging I guess, but while the posture system had so much potential it always ended up feeling like I was playing guitar hero to me, not really sure I like wo long moving towards that direction but we'll see, after a few videos it does seem like it retains some of Nioh 2's fast, aggressive combo based combat, which I loved, so we'll see
Ninja gaiden yes but also dead or alive was an amazing fighting game
SEKIRO have the best Combat system in game history bro
I think it is really important to point out that having a sizable gameplay during the showcase and announce a demo right after is a rare trait in the industry nowsdays. The demo is not only so much fun but it also took me about 2~3 hours to explore and I definitely want to see more. The combat system is innovated upon the nioh formula and i have to say it fits the Chinese folklore very well! Where nioh emphasizes the concept of ''zanshin'' which is a core practice in kendo and in wo long using the concept of deflect, ''qishi'' and morale found in wushu and warfare in ancient China, and also having the elements as level up traits is pretty cool, though the downside is the leveling up is a bit simplified. Overall the game is set in a really chaotic and most interesting historic period in China, the combat is already fun and there is so much potential in terms of story, really look forward to the release.
Thanks matty😁
The parry system needs to be adjusted and moved to the block button. However, other than that it's got potential.
Hey I said the same thing cause I kept dodging when trying to parry and I realized there is literally a block button so why is deflect tied to the dodge button.
Atleast they have until 2023 to work on this game. It's nice they let us try the game for 10 days so we can give feedback.
Short dodge acts as a reflect so you can dodge and reflect at the same time but only short dodge pressing dodge twice is a long dodge
@@Ytomany because dodge IS deflect standing still or whilst moving the dodge button also deflects while you are dodging
@@UKRobs Yeah I realized that but I was like why do that.
Thats good feedback, man - even though I loved Sekiro to pieces - I did 11 playthroughs!
So excited for this game.
First, I’m a Three Kingdoms era fan. Originally from Dynasty Warriors (from when I was a kid!), but later sat down and read Luo Guanzhong’s The Romance.
And second, I really, really wanted to love Sekiro. But the allure of Soulsborne games for me comes largely from the RPG elements, and Sekiro lacked in those. I still liked it, but like you said, it just didn’t hit the sweet spot.
I feel like Wo Long will combine everything I love about lore and gameplay. I hope! Way too excited for this one.
I echo the sentiment around the parry and the heal mechanic, but also I did not enjoy that the character felt like “floating” during the walk animation. It needs more weight.
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First of all this is one of your better videos. Secondly Nioh2 in my humble opinion far out paces any of the Dark Souls games, even elden ring for the most part...
in what it does, & how it executes on it, not to mention all the cool ass different feeling weapons you get.
Anyways, I beat the Wo Long demo, & I didn't really get the "deflection" mechanic down pat.. believe it or not, I was able to use stealth, to some degree to take down most enemies... But what I felt like, that you mentioned, was once I got the deflection down better, that it was really going to add some depth to the combat experience...
Nioh and Nioh 2 are so different from the FromSoft games though.. I don’t thinks it fair to say that one is clearly better than the other.
FromSoft puts SO MUCH MORE focus on level design and exploration that it makes it an entirely different game. Nioh, on the other hand, is all about the fast paced combat.
I love both but I’ll always be a FromSoftware fanboy. I’ve played all of their games.
I feel like you should give sekiro a replay someday! Only beating genichiro is where I stopped at for so long. One day I decided I was going to sit down and finally beat it.... ONE OF MY FAVORITE GAMES EVER
Nioh 2 is one of my favorite games of all time, the NG+ is next level and if you haven’t played it I highly recommend it
How is the dlc?
@@TheBlayner Hard af but rewarding. Love the boss fights, just don't be surprised if some random cyclops dude one shots you with a dropkick
I also did not enjoy Sekiro all that much. I finished once and never looked back.I think it's the lack of weapon variety and RPG building, yes. Also the deflecting was a bit meme and felt passive sometimes; weirdly enough I also prefer to make my own character.
I loved Sekiro but yeah it was basically an action adventure game with Dark Souls difficulty. Though I was fine with that.
This is one of the games I was waiting for I'm really ready for that new Monkey King game to come out and I hope will finally get lost so aside I mean we've been waiting quite a while for it but I expected these three games to set a standard it looks good but we'll just have to wait and see what the final product looks like
I only play sekiro when I want that of the feeling of, im just a normal dood doing crazy shet and beating the fuck out of these big or op mc type characters. (Also the satisfying parry and the good feeling of overcoming the odds with pure skill)
Loved Nioh, and I'm starting Nioh 2 soon. This game looks good, but I'm wondering how Rise Of The Ronin is going to differ from this and Nioh. This looks different enough from Nioh, but it's pretty obvious Team Ninja made both if you're familiar with them. I'm wondering what RotR is going to do that's different, unless it's going to be even less loot/build focused.
Wu Long looks like the type of Wuxia or Wuxia ish game makes me hype for it
I love Chinese settings even if China is a shit place to be right now. Seeing such good feedback makes me wanna play this. Will preorder for sure
Knowing that Sony's Exdev studio is assisting in Last Ronin has me more excited than Wo Long right now.
fanboy
Same, and yet wo long is my most excited for game next year lol
@@twostop6895 you’re lame.
does the game have a difficulty setting? I played the demo, and it was too hard.
Dude, I’m so excited for this game. After I finished Sekiro I was told that Nioh 2 is very similar. Nioh 2 is fun, but I do have a few problems with it. Wo Long looks like it’s resolved all of the issues I had with Nioh 2. I never preorder games, but I might have to break that streak
I would advise you to not risk it and wait a day or two until the reviews etc but what do I know
@@makefoxhoundgreatagain842 I am actually going to wait until reviews and more gameplay. I’m not 100% on board yet and can definitely wait a week before buying. I’ve been getting further in Nioh 2 and I’m starting to see some more flaws. Still a fun game, but I’m not sure if I can play 2 Team Ninja games in a row lol
@@Devon.with.an.i wise dude. I'm very excited for the release but not going to make the mistake of preordering, totally with you wait for gameplay and reviews (ign, skillup, gamespot, acg, gaming bolt etc) and also check the metacritic user and critic score. I'll have a good idea then I don't know why I have this gut feeling this isn't going to be groundbreaking and pretty average but I really want to be wrong
@@Devon.with.an.iik it was recent, but if you have an Xbox or PC, Wo Long will be on game pass
@@funnyvalentine6670 I just switched to Playstation this gen, but that’s dope they got it on Gamepass
Completely agree with Sekiro. I beat the game, but it was the only modern Fromsoft game Injust didn’t love. Would rather play the original Demons Souls again than go back to Sekiro.
I fucking loved it. It’s probably my favorite FromSoft game, honestly.
@@user-dj9iu2et3r so many felt the same way as you, personally it just didn’t connect with me.
An Rpg Create your own character , choose your own village , clan naruto open world game would be insane.
Wo Long gives me heavy Nioh, Ninja Gaiden, Dynasty Warriors and Sekiro Vibes and I'm loving it.
The gameplay walkthrough we saw was very good, the mechanics seem deep and skill based, combat/spells seem great and engaging and the environments are highly detailed. I'm really looking forward to seeing getting my hands on this game one of my most anticipated of 2023.
Hey mat what's the podcast you do with cog from Iron Lords I forgot it would like to subscribe.
Also the iron lords is a dope podcast. I'm surprised they're not bigger 🙂
The podcast is called Defining Duke. The TH-cam channel is called Last Stand Media.
Wo long demo was really fun, had a lot of mobility That I love to see, still has plenty of gameplay options like nioh 2's burst attack/counter gameplay and another take at spirit guardians from nioh 1 except a tad bland in comparison without the unique flare of special movesets; instead opting for just a seemingly standard weapon buff (and having to choose either the weapon buff or the actual spirit attack seperately). On another note that rare L sekiro take matty you need to push forward some more man, saying you stopped on Genichiro Is like someone playing dark souls and quitting after beating Taurus demon; like my guy there is an entire game full to the brim with some of the best stuff fromsoftware ever made back there! That stuff was practically the tutorial 😔
I gave up on dark souls games, tried Neoh 1 and all I did was get my butt kicked. Just too hard for me....wish I could play them though cause they seem really cool. The lore and everything.....I’ve been playing Cyberpunk 2077 a ton lately. I love ❤️ the game now ! I literally shelved it since launch...
Same, cyberpunk is so good now
There meant for you to feel that way until you keep doing it until you beat the boss and then you feel so rewarded
It is not a morale gauge. It is a spirit gauge. You're morale is that number from 1 to 20 above the spirit gauge. Also I cannot believe you quit sekiro at genichiro. There are so many more good bosses after that. Sekiro offers some of the best boss fights in gaming history.
something went wrong error and black screen 4 times actually kicked me out of this Demo. but in normal state the game is very fun.
Sekiro is one of my favourite games of the last few years, once you get-in to it, understand and upgrade the various powers, weapons and abilities it just gets better and better the further you progress into the game !!
Plus, Naturally, it's also got the 'From Software' challenging gameplay which you have to improve your skills and learn the game mechanics and your character etc. to be able to beat the game.....Button Bashing won't help you here.....Which is how games should be imo !!
Sekiro was a masterpiece. Its in my top 3 of favorite Fromsoft games. They always do a good job when then try something new with a new IP. Bloodborne, Sekiro, and Elden Ring were just beautiful.
Definitely enjoy the Nioh series more than my time with Wo Long. Still had a blast with the game but I find the combat a bit too slow and floaty with the jump feeling too weighty but not snappy enough. Especially compared to the dashing and regaining Ki in Nioh, it was a bit jarring. Love all the other new systems they have implanted but as of now, I’m definitely a bit more hype for the little we have seen of arise of the Ronin. WO Long will probably be still be a day one! (Unless they do another beta and it feels worse)
It seems like any game they make that is inspired by Nioh combat always feels off lol. Cuz i didn't like Stranger of Paradise. Well we will be the judge of that once the final product comes out. Hopefully Team Ninja takes the feedback into consideration from whoever has tried the demo.
“Sekiro didn’t really vibe with me”= Sekiro was too difficult and I was unable to finish the game. -Every game journalist ever
Absolutely brother - Nioh Series is Awesome and this (Wo Long) looks like a good one as well!
Separate comment, can you dual wield in this game? I'm a DW fanatic
Yes you can and theres a cool attack you can do while switching weapons it's pretty neat.
@@Dtzeo503 i hope you mean I can wield a sword in each hand and not 1 in hand the other on back
@@mikekuzmicz8408 well there are dual swords. No you can't dual wield if you mean like in Dark Souls then no. But you can switch weapons and the game definitely encourages weapon switching.
@@Dtzeo503 it's not dual wield if you can't fight with 2 swords.
@@mikekuzmicz8408 yup thje only option so far is dual swords
Rage deleted it on 2nd attempt after crossing the bridge into that pit. The camera is PURE CRYSTALLINE JANK. I assume they’ll polish up the camera tracking as it’s way below the quality of FromSoft. Glad that it’s coming to gamepass so I’ll try it again on release. Nice concept but the camera is completely awful
Chinese lore and mythology with dynasty warriors vibes structured like a souls-like. Yes please 😍
Jade Empire OST! O:
It may be a Japanese made game, but lets be honest, they make just as many generic games as people outside of Japan do. Over the years many game developers borrow elements of gameplay from one another so that its not always clear. I think we can only definitely say that a game is made in definite "Japanese style" if it is some sort of manga RPG with a lot of dialogue that is largely referencing life in Japan and Japanese speaking world, and games that are known as soul-likes since that is just a relatively new genre.
I’m loving all these new marital arts inspired games lately. But can a guy get jade empire 2?
matty my boii ... its WUU LONG say it with me now WUUU LONG
My biggest pet peeve of the souls-like genre is that very rarely can other devs meaningfully innovate or improve their souls like games without waiting for Fromsoft to release their next game and then remixing whatever new mechanic From came up with. It puts me off to trying more of them for some reason. By the time I get tired of From games they come out with a new one and do a phenomenal job at taking feedback and improving their craft.
Have played through the demo twice and it's really good. They can optimise to improve the frames. I liked the chinese myth setting.
I am just having issues killing the last guy but should get it done before the demo goes away.
@@De1usionsofGrandeur if in doubt call in some help.
@@vincevirtua ya I tried that couldn't get anyone when i did it I'll try again later.
Don’t think I didn’t notice the Jade Empire music in the background
MATTY!! Haven’t watched the vid yet. Just 30 seconds in, XBOX game pass day 1 bros!! What. Okay. Let me get date on that, and like / watch the vid now.
Can't be as brutal as the opinions we're gonna hear on Defining Duke about Yakuza 7 this week 🥺
When do you put up the blatantly lying videos? The brutally honest TH-cam videos always make this run through my mind.
You don't like Sekiro?! Broooooo. I hope you revisit it. It's one of my favorites. I enjoyed Ninja Gaiden. LOVED Nioh/2. I think this will be cool. I do agree the parry needs to be adjusted. Maybe a few more frames
I agree with your hot take about sekiro fwif
Only thing missing from sekiro was the fashion souls aspect.
I was really interested in Nioh before. I was just afraid of the difficulty, but Sekiro transformed me as a gamer and I beat Nioh 2. I'm wondering if Nioh 1 is still worth getting, but I'm definitly getting Wo Long
I actually enjoy nioh one more than 2.
Bruh the real game starts after beating Genichiro
Wo long is a ton of fun.
really need to play sekiro matty, even if you don't like it, Its one of the most regarded games of old gen , playing it and not liking it is way better than "it didn't click with me so I dropped it", taking into context that you review video games for a living
Eh.. let him play what he wants.
Loved Nioh 1 and 2. Hopefully Wo Long will be a good game