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@DHolmquistDesigns unless you don't let the Stang owner know 'its on', then no, sorry. Your plastic fantastic wrap your ass in fiberglass chevy isn't beating any 10 speed coyote post 2011. You might get the jump at a light but the 5.0 will reel you in every day, all day (stock for stock)
@@lancemannion4113 a second gen c4 LT1, let alone a LT4 will actually beat the car in the video in every category. First Gen. C4’s, no, of course not. You must not know a lot about cars.
It's been proven over and over...Jeep 392 is wayyyy better and faster than Braptor. Even that fake baja suspension, it's been tested in Dubai in the desert multiple times....not even close to the Jeep 392. Ford just trying to over hype it for competition. 392 all the way!!!!
I’ll take both of these except with a manual and track pack in the mustang. One to get my manual kicks and the other for awesome sound and off-roading and adventure. Best of both worlds right here.
Man those 11-14 s197 mustang GTs are impressive! I have a 14 GT/CS w bolt ons and I’m gappin 392 boats left and right unless they’re heavily modded !! Super fun cars
Having owned a 392 Challenger, a Boss 302 Mustang, and a 21 Mustang GT, I knew exactly how this was going to go. The 392 is unmatched in low end grunt, but it falls on it's face above 5K RPM, the 5.0L is gutless down low, but pulls like a bat out of hell on the top end.
@@AnglerDanNE It really doesn't, the 10 speed auto gives that illusion, but it's a turd below 4K RPM. If you look at a dyno sheet, they only make about 240HP and 310lbs-ft at 4K, where the 392 is making 310HP and 370lbs-ft at the same RPM.
That closer ratios shift schedules helps hide the weight and any gear ratio gaps... a 392 with say the older 545rfe auto like I have in my Dakota, pair it with a 3.55 gear, you too can do 100mph in 3rd, after it does the 2-3shift at 70mph lol@@316Autos
Very interesting video, I enjoyed watching it. I have a 2013 Mustang GT and think it's a great car. If I ever want a Jeep that's close to the performance of my Mustang I will get the Wrangler 392.
I'm disappointed... as a mustang owner, you should know the 392 engine is big and bulky, the power drops due to weight... if the mustang just got on throttle a split second faster, it would have downshifted fast enough to blow past the 392 a couple lengths... and i'm guessing it isn't tuned, but the mustang will get loads faster, that 392 MIGHT get 10hp.
I have a 2014 GT and I love that car. It’s not a demon or gt 500 but it’s super fast for my need and with the 6 speed manual it’s a ton of fun!! I can’t believe it’s going to be 10 years since I got her!! I also enjoy watching these videos with the red mustang
I have a 2014 mustang GT and i love it. I really like you guys are using one in your videos as well. I was thinking for the roll races with the mustang, wouldn't it be better if you used sport mode and had selected the gear manually to start off in so it doesnt fall behind so much at the start of the roll race.
The Mustang would still beat the jeep. Hell are the any dirt roads in America anymore that aren't on private property ? Off-roading is slowly becoming extinct to most of us Americans. There's nowhere to go
@zinc466 there is no doubt about that. But have no fear, it's only a matter of time before the entire country will be private or government property. So much for freedom anymore.
The DOHC 5.0 can rev and breathe better than the pushrods, that's why it can catch and overtake the Jeep despite the Jeeps excellent 8 speed. This is why it takes a much bigger displacement OHV engine to compete with it.
Having a 2013 GT and racing my wife's 2021 Grand Cherokee SRT for the last 3 years, I knew the results before even watching this. The GC has much better aerodynamics than the Wrangler, but I reel her in every time. That 6.4 is amazing, any my wife has a best of 13.0 at 104mph in the 1/4 at 2500ft elevation. That is nothing to balk at for a N/A SUV pushing over 5K lbs. But her extra 60HP cannot overcome a 1,500lb weight difference and the aero as well, even with AWD giving her a much better 60ft time. BTW, my best was 12.5 at 112mph stock. Just FYI for those that want a better idea of how much elevation affects time slips.
but honestly, who would expect a wrangler to keep up with them😂😂 I feel like with the right modifications that could definitely hurt some feelings lol…
I’ve had bad cuss’s, bad fords and bad chevys I mean bad by hot, and I love juice no matter what it’s in, I’ll drive the keep or the stang ,but utilize the juice on different terrain and be living my time
...Now, after watching the video I'm pretty surprised at how slow that "392" was compared to a stock mustang. There are a lot of fast SUV's on the road, this 392 wouldn't compete with other special edition 'SUV's'. odd! Interesting video nonetheless
Well that's because other suv have 700hp on average. The jeep only got 75 hp more than my ram 1500 and plus it's got massive mud terrains. It's not gonna compete with x5m or gl63amg for sure😅
I could be wrong but there are not many faster SUVs on the road. The 392 is faster than most all of them you may run into daily and the hellcat is faster than all but a couple that cost twice as much to possibly edge it out. Mopars 6 liter SUV's are pretty dominate on the road for a SUV. A select BMW M series or a AMG might be a touch faster than the 392 but not by much especially for the price difference. And those are slower than the hellcat equipped version. You need to look at a Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT for $200,000 to edge out a $100,000 Hellcat SUV and I can tell you what's the odds of running into either one of those in the streets. Got to give Mopar credit where credit is do for affordable performance SUV's. There are some modded Jeep Trackhawks and Durangos going down the 1/4 mile in the 8's, very impressive for 5000+ lb vehicles.
Not surprisingly the outcome even using a older mustang. scat pack challengers typically loose to mustang GTs as well. However owning both a new Durango SRT392 awd and a newer mustang GT, im not shocked the Jeep jumped it in the 1/8 mile til it's weight caught up to it. If I was stoplight banging I'd take the awd 392 as well, but in the 1/4 you ain't beating the coyote once it gets the chance to stretch its legs although it's a pretty close race in the end.
Cant believe how much elevation kills HP. A 3.6 camaro is faster at sea level than that mustang GT at elevation. I have a 2018 RS runs the 1/4 in 13.6 seconds at 106 mph. I bew elevation kills HP but didn’t realize that much. Im a snowmobiler live in upstate NY but been to Idaho and Montana a few times riding. The turbo sleds do a lot better at elevation than the NA engines turbos or forced induction don’t lose much if any power at high elevation. What about cars would it be the same thing turbos at elevation don’t lose power. The jeep actually impressed me more than the mustang didn’t lose by much. Good stuff thanks for sharing.
Crazy part is he is driving a 2014 mustang, 2015-21 mustangs are even better sitting at 460 hp instead of the 2014s 420 hp. And with the 10-speed it’s so fun but I’d prefer a manual to feel more in touch
470hp to the crank through those big off road tires... maybe 350whp. Making it equal to what the Mustang puts down too. "AWD" launch advantage but nothing after the first 100ft
I am texting this comment by the half way watching of this video,I always go with the gt500,even if it's a competition with GTR because mustangs are untouchables
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Hey at TFL can you drag race this same gen mustang against a Toyota mk5 supra 3.0 I just want to see the one who offer's the best value for money
The Jeep has the aerodynamics of Roman’s face. - Nathan 😂😂😂
Can the Mustang go to Moab.. next series 😂
No but it can go a month without seeing the mechanic 😅
Can easily go to Moab , just can't do any hard trails
@@thunde100 hahaha yep sounds accurate to me
Whistling diesel has entered the chat 😂
@@thunde100is the jeep that unreliable?
The ZF8 was the best change Mopar made.
The super quick ZF sport 8speed auto in the JL Wrangler is great. ZF make fantastic transmissions.
That 392 Jeep is beautiful.
Nathan says about the Jeep "This thing has the aerodynamic qualities of Roman's face."
Love seeing Nathan support the Professor of Rock shirt!
Agreed. Cool channel.
I baught my Wrangler 392 for off roading, it has the bonus of some muscle car chops. It also has 38 inch tires! So much fun!
Maybe it’s different in person, but that 5.0 sounds a whole lot better from my couch lol.
I’m impressed with that gen 1 coyote. It pulls strong as hell at that altitude. 104 trap speed is really moving for a N/A
It's even better with the 6 speed manual and 3.73 axle ratio.
It’s a tune away from being a lot better shifting.
But could they smoke brians eclipse is the real question
2011-2014 Charger/Challenger SRT8 outran these all day. 12.8 consistently in the 1/4 mile
@@M305-e1g doubtful at altitude
Yes!! More V8 drag races with trash talking between the boys!!!
Dude these Mustangs seem so underrated. It blows my mind how much of a killer it is.
If you get a chance you should drive a 10-speed Mustang GT. It's a very good car, especially for the price. I've owned 2, currently have 1.
So funny I still find it crazy that my stock 95’ 6sd C4 corvette will do a better 1/4 mile time, and out handle that much much newer poostang.
@DHolmquistDesigns unless you don't let the Stang owner know 'its on', then no, sorry. Your plastic fantastic wrap your ass in fiberglass chevy isn't beating any 10 speed coyote post 2011. You might get the jump at a light but the 5.0 will reel you in every day, all day (stock for stock)
@@QuinnLIFTS I’ve had a chance to drive several when I worked at a dealer😅
@@lancemannion4113 a second gen c4 LT1, let alone a LT4 will actually beat the car in the video in every category. First Gen. C4’s, no, of course not. You must not know a lot about cars.
1300 lb weight difference. That Wrangler is quick for 5200 lbs.
I would like to see a Ford Bronco Raptor against the Jeep Rubicon 392. Thanks for the video.
The Bronco Raptor only has a 3.0 eco boost engine in it. It’s no slouch of an engine, but it’s Nothing special.
Bronco Raptor isn't even in same league. Jeep beats it by like a football field in 1/4 mile.
The 392 would beat the Bronco R easily.
@@WrangzillaThe 3.0 Ecoboost is really quick in the Explorer ST but is not set up for quick acceleration in the Bronco Raptor.
It's been proven over and over...Jeep 392 is wayyyy better and faster than Braptor. Even that fake baja suspension, it's been tested in Dubai in the desert multiple times....not even close to the Jeep 392. Ford just trying to over hype it for competition. 392 all the way!!!!
Wranglers are by far the top "I have issues" car ever made, and a V8 swap Wrangler sits near the top of the list. I'd totally love one 🤠
Nice T-shirt Nathan🎸...excellent vidjéo as usual fellas🤙
The 2013-2014 mustang has to be the best looking model they ever made. I wish they would lose the stripes on the test car
I personally like the stripes
@CaptainRudy4021 me too...
Agreed, but I may be biased
I have a 23 Mach1 and agree. Those two years are great looking cars and have aged extremely well.
The Jeep is speed governed at 100. Most say it’s more like 95-98.
It’s not going to do a legit 1/4 mile.
My opinion, why have one?
The aerodynamics of romans head 😂😂😂
I would love to see a video comparison with the iforce 5.7, hemi 5.7, endurance 5.6, vortex 5.3, vortex 6.2, coyote 5.0. All the fullsize V8 trucks!!
I’ll take both of these except with a manual and track pack in the mustang. One to get my manual kicks and the other for awesome sound and off-roading and adventure. Best of both worlds right here.
Normally I say Hemi hands down...but that Stang sounds more rumbly and less barky.
Man those 11-14 s197 mustang GTs are impressive! I have a 14 GT/CS w bolt ons and I’m gappin 392 boats left and right unless they’re heavily modded !! Super fun cars
I still find it crazy that my stock 95’ 6sd C4 corvette will do a better 1/4 mile time, and out handle that much much newer poostang.
If Ford took the 5.0L Coyote design and made a 6.0L or bigger that would be one hard engine to beat, the power from the little 5.0L is pretty wild.
They make a OHV 7.3L that is gaining huge popularity in the performance world. Just not factory in a Mustang.
That's an impressive amount of rust for a brand new vehicle on that Jeep's exhaust.
Having owned a 392 Challenger, a Boss 302 Mustang, and a 21 Mustang GT, I knew exactly how this was going to go. The 392 is unmatched in low end grunt, but it falls on it's face above 5K RPM, the 5.0L is gutless down low, but pulls like a bat out of hell on the top end.
Which the gen 2 fixed and the gen 3 even more. The gen 3 coyote pulls throughout its entire RPM range.
@@AnglerDanNE It really doesn't, the 10 speed auto gives that illusion, but it's a turd below 4K RPM. If you look at a dyno sheet, they only make about 240HP and 310lbs-ft at 4K, where the 392 is making 310HP and 370lbs-ft at the same RPM.
That closer ratios shift schedules helps hide the weight and any gear ratio gaps... a 392 with say the older 545rfe auto like I have in my Dakota, pair it with a 3.55 gear, you too can do 100mph in 3rd, after it does the 2-3shift at 70mph lol@@316Autos
Very interesting video, I enjoyed watching it. I have a 2013 Mustang GT and think it's a great car. If I ever want a Jeep that's close to the performance of my Mustang I will get the Wrangler 392.
I'm disappointed... as a mustang owner, you should know the 392 engine is big and bulky, the power drops due to weight... if the mustang just got on throttle a split second faster, it would have downshifted fast enough to blow past the 392 a couple lengths... and i'm guessing it isn't tuned, but the mustang will get loads faster, that 392 MIGHT get 10hp.
Nathan seemed to get things backwards when he said the Mustang took longer to get there, it was 14.4 for the Stang and 14.7 for the Jeep.
He meant it took the Mustang longer to get to a faster speed than the Jeep.
@@tivowilliebexactly...buddy doesn't comprehend math
Put good street tires on the Jeep ans it might have braked as well as the Mustang. Also, love Nathan's Professor of Rock shirt.
I have a 2014 GT and I love that car. It’s not a demon or gt 500 but it’s super fast for my need and with the 6 speed manual it’s a ton of fun!! I can’t believe it’s going to be 10 years since I got her!! I also enjoy watching these videos with the red mustang
and becoming hard to find.
Just curious how many miles have you out on yours? I put around 280k on my 2011 in 10 years 😂 loved that car
The price of the Jeep you could buy a Dark Horse and have enough left over to cover Nathan's massive overages in the cheap 'yota challenge! :)
Ahh Fort Collins… you guys are making me homesick!
I have a 2014 mustang GT and i love it. I really like you guys are using one in your videos as well. I was thinking for the roll races with the mustang, wouldn't it be better if you used sport mode and had selected the gear manually to start off in so it doesnt fall behind so much at the start of the roll race.
That's the high-end torque power band on the 302
Anyone else catch the Professor of Rock t-shirt? I always get a chuckle when I catch references to other unrelated YT channels that I watch.
I would like a third drag race on a dirt road
The Mustang would still beat the jeep. Hell are the any dirt roads in America anymore that aren't on private property ? Off-roading is slowly becoming extinct to most of us Americans. There's nowhere to go
Then you live on the wrong side of the country
@zinc466 there is no doubt about that. But have no fear, it's only a matter of time before the entire country will be private or government property. So much for freedom anymore.
@@car-diologist I mean most of the good wheeling is owned and maintained by the gov
@@car-diologistmiles and miles of dirt roads where I live
damn, the cop car should be there
Tfl drag races are awesome. Good choices for a race!
Excellent Review and episode as always!!! 😁
That Mustang looks SOOO good🥵🥵🔥🔥🔥
The DOHC 5.0 can rev and breathe better than the pushrods, that's why it can catch and overtake the Jeep despite the Jeeps excellent 8 speed. This is why it takes a much bigger displacement OHV engine to compete with it.
Jeeps weight is why the mustang caught it. Its the weight of a pickup
Having a 2013 GT and racing my wife's 2021 Grand Cherokee SRT for the last 3 years, I knew the results before even watching this. The GC has much better aerodynamics than the Wrangler, but I reel her in every time. That 6.4 is amazing, any my wife has a best of 13.0 at 104mph in the 1/4 at 2500ft elevation. That is nothing to balk at for a N/A SUV pushing over 5K lbs. But her extra 60HP cannot overcome a 1,500lb weight difference and the aero as well, even with AWD giving her a much better 60ft time. BTW, my best was 12.5 at 112mph stock. Just FYI for those that want a better idea of how much elevation affects time slips.
Love to see the Jeep with less meaty tires
Mustang wins the start-up exhaust battle by a mile
100%
Could get a Lund tune for the Mustang
The transmission tuning alone would be magic.
American Pie vs Hot Dogs and Baseball was a pretty good analogy.
correct me if I’m wrong doesn’t the 392 have a governor at 98 mile-an-hour
Which state?
I believe all states. It’s either 98 mile an hour or 100.5 mile an hour.
112mph so it wouldn't have effected the outcome of the race
The top speed is limited because of the tyres.
@@johnmaier3103 so all your state governers are speed restricted
This guy is funny hotdogs a baseball” lol
The Jeep is sweet. Mustang is pretty cool too.
Nice y’all need to do it again with the 4XE jeep see what happens.
My 4xe crushes most in a straight line 😆... turns are 100% sketch
IS THAT THE ONE THAT COSTS 200 HUNDRED THOUSAND
but honestly, who would expect a wrangler to keep up with them😂😂 I feel like with the right modifications that could definitely hurt some feelings lol…
If youre talking getting to the junkyard .... yep!!
Why wouldn't u use the charger AWD 392. Vs the 5.0.
I like how the jeep sounds.
I’ve had bad cuss’s, bad fords and bad chevys I mean bad by hot, and I love juice no matter what it’s in, I’ll drive the keep or the stang ,but utilize the juice on different terrain and be living my time
...Now, after watching the video I'm pretty surprised at how slow that "392" was compared to a stock mustang. There are a lot of fast SUV's on the road, this 392 wouldn't compete with other special edition 'SUV's'. odd!
Interesting video nonetheless
Well that's because other suv have 700hp on average. The jeep only got 75 hp more than my ram 1500 and plus it's got massive mud terrains. It's not gonna compete with x5m or gl63amg for sure😅
I could be wrong but there are not many faster SUVs on the road. The 392 is faster than most all of them you may run into daily and the hellcat is faster than all but a couple that cost twice as much to possibly edge it out. Mopars 6 liter SUV's are pretty dominate on the road for a SUV. A select BMW M series or a AMG might be a touch faster than the 392 but not by much especially for the price difference. And those are slower than the hellcat equipped version. You need to look at a Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT for $200,000 to edge out a $100,000 Hellcat SUV and I can tell you what's the odds of running into either one of those in the streets. Got to give Mopar credit where credit is do for affordable performance SUV's. There are some modded Jeep Trackhawks and Durangos going down the 1/4 mile in the 8's, very impressive for 5000+ lb vehicles.
Not surprisingly the outcome even using a older mustang. scat pack challengers typically loose to mustang GTs as well. However owning both a new Durango SRT392 awd and a newer mustang GT, im not shocked the Jeep jumped it in the 1/8 mile til it's weight caught up to it. If I was stoplight banging I'd take the awd 392 as well, but in the 1/4 you ain't beating the coyote once it gets the chance to stretch its legs although it's a pretty close race in the end.
What?! The price of that Jeep is insane! Regardless of how cool the Jeep might be, it’s not worth that kind of price tag.
Cant believe how much elevation kills HP.
A 3.6 camaro is faster at sea level than that mustang GT at elevation. I have a 2018 RS runs the 1/4 in 13.6 seconds at 106 mph. I bew elevation kills HP but didn’t realize that much. Im a snowmobiler live in upstate NY but been to Idaho and Montana a few times riding. The turbo sleds do a lot better at elevation than the NA engines turbos or forced induction don’t lose much if any power at high elevation. What about cars would it be the same thing turbos at elevation don’t lose power. The jeep actually impressed me more than the mustang didn’t lose by much.
Good stuff thanks for sharing.
Jeep 2024 392....best all around vehicle, period.
Let’s see if that Jeep is still running in 9 years😂
The brake test on the jeep 😬 is a heavy car and it break really well
Take the doors and roof off the wrangler, slap some street tires on there and I believe it would be a different race.
How about some handling tests in the track
Virtually nothing you said about the hydroguide was correct. Rainwater? Lol. Its for water crossing or other deluge over the hood.
Wrangler 392 vs Dodge Police Car please!!
The 392 was down rated for reliability, it can handle way over 700HP. Dont know how reliable the transmission is..
Nathan roll down the windows and strap down the windshield, then see how fast.
Crazy part is he is driving a 2014 mustang, 2015-21 mustangs are even better sitting at 460 hp instead of the 2014s 420 hp. And with the 10-speed it’s so fun but I’d prefer a manual to feel more in touch
392 isn’t the engine size, it’s the credit score you need to buy one
😂 there is also a check cashing place nxt to the dealer
Can you get $100,000 loan at 11% interest with a 392 credit score?
392 is an abysmal credit score!
@230k19 only if you believe hard enough
470hp to the crank through those big off road tires... maybe 350whp. Making it equal to what the Mustang puts down too. "AWD" launch advantage but nothing after the first 100ft
Sorry all you want. An overhead cam sounds better than pushrod. Aftermarket exhausted or not...
Coyote 5.0 is a beast. And it’s all about power to weight. That’s why 5.0 Stangs beat 6.4. Chargers all day long.
Actually pretty close!
Would love to see the AMW tuned Jeep gladiator against the mustang
I was hoping to see a manual transmission v8
I’m still in favor of making you guys top gear for the US. 😂 Y’all do it on half the budget and it’s so much better.
0:03-0:07 that’s what he said 😂
No fair, Andre. You changed the results by going faster than Nathan
What Nathen forgets is that the crowd is standing at 150 ft.
As long as you're not driving the crowd will be fine....lol
I’m really curious how the Jeep would run with the roof and doors off? 🤷🏽♂️
I wish you would find a 2006 Porsche Cayenne Twin Turbo that has been lifted with knobby tires, and race the Mustang.
How about plain and simple Aerodynamics ! That jeep is like a piece of plywood in the wind,that’s why they suck back fuel too!
Try that with a Dark Horse. 🤣
Just had to start acommercial at 2.16
what is the rear end ratio of the mustang? looked like 331's
The Mustang's superior aerodynamics definitely the difference here.
This is like comparing apples to potatoes
All is right in the world. A mustang is father than the wrangler. Even an older mustang.
Try taking the top and doors off the new to cut some weight and you might take it then!
Removing the top of the Mustang causes a lot of damage and torsional rigidity problems.
@@dvader3263he’s talking about the 392 jeep
Even George was curious…….”curious George “ in case the reference was too vague
I am texting this comment by the half way watching of this video,I always go with the gt500,even if it's a competition with GTR because mustangs are untouchables
That’s an older 5.0 first gen too lol
Just missing 'the stick of truth' and it's Carwow. You should have a TFL v Carwow drag-off!
Anyone else notice Cleetus' music?
he's wearing the hat again😂 i like jeep wrangler 392.
If its an automatic put it in sport mode and shift yourself i have this mustang and it has a sportmode put it in sport mode.
It seemed like Andre was really slow of the line.