I have never seen trains this long. Frankly, I'm astonished those couplers don't break all the time. The physical loads on those couplers must be enormous. Thank you for this video; it was enthralling.
It is all about momentum. You are right ,to just pull this enormous mass with one link will break anything, even highest grade of tungsten carbide. However if the acceleration is gently applied then the gain in momentum is gently applied from truck to truck, and the couplings can cope. However it takes skill from the driver. Moreover, before staring, often a train backs closing all the couplings together to ensure an even delivery, one truck at a time, as it then goes forward. Also they accelerate from zero mph very very slowly.
This isn't even that big. Looked about 120 cars. I've had more than a few that were 3 miles long. Regularly get potash trains that are 186 cars and 54 million pounds.
At 1:56 ish you can hear the slack run out or in. My guess is the engineer knocked down the throttle or backed off the dynamic and that force went through the train and found the weak knuckle. Changes in terrain over scanners can be difficult because you can't use the air brakes on the cars cause there's a good chance it will set off the detector with hot wheel alarms.
@@tlong4577 you're absolutely right.....would be much prettier with the valley filled with broken abandoned freight wagons and the carcasses of the thousands of horses that would have died trying to produce that same amount of energy.......should I even mention the environmental devastation that would result from the use of land as animal breeding and feeding......or perhaps it could all be done with magical electricity.....ya know.....the kind of electricity that doesn't rely on coal , oil , river dams , or nuclear energy.... There are 7 billion of us on this planet.....the cell phones and computers we use to write these comments , as well as use of long life batteries and solar panels are being proven to be much more environmentally dangerous than modern rail service or the diesel they consume
traveling out west from ohio earlier this year i couldnt believe how massive the trains were. 2 engines in the front. 1 in the middle and 2 at the rear. very impressive
Most people have no idea how heavy these things really are - just the weight of one car is enough to turn a human into a pancake without even slowing it down. I worked in a rail repair shop for a couple years as a surface prep/repaint crewleader...really makes you appreciate the air brakes when you have to move uncoupled singles around without them. We had a couple of track engines but most of the time they were tied up or it wasn't practical to use them for moving just one car. We would usually shove the cars toward the blast booth with a skid steer to get them rolling, and we'd have to time the handbrake engagement to get it to stop within +/- 5 feet of where it needed to be so the blast hoses would reach. Kinda fun but nerve wracking at the same time - mistakes didn't happen often, but when they did it was usually expensive. 🤣
Thanks for sharing my friend. THIS is where school kids should be taken to for field trips... rather than just museums and sporting events. Maybe then they'd appreciate the electricity in their homes... and the men behind the scenes who provide it. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🇺🇸
@@mrswampgass2186 Most people have no idea. They think the locomotive is the heaviest part, with empty traincars being comparable to semis in weight. They ain't.
This occurs more frequently than most folks might imagine. No matter how skilled the engineer ("hoghead") is in managing "slack" (which is the key to how locos can move so much tonnage), the breakage of a coupling knuckle or, more seriously and far less frequently, a drawbar will occur. I saw this as a fireman when serving with one of the most competent locomotive engineers I had the pleasure to work with. Spare knuckles are kept in the locos that brakemen are taught to replace when this happens.
@@ryry187 don't get hooked on uranium or any other radioactive material, it's just like eight-track tapes. Actually the universe is full of energy which comes from the spiritual side of our reality. The same energy that keeps the spirit in our bodies and leaves when we pass is tappable and usable for all our needs.
With all the thousands of miles of tracks one has to wonder HOW and WHY that drone was in EXACTLY the right place to catch this on video ??? And can you imagine the HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of TONS that long ass train must weigh?? Absolutely amazing...
If you look closely during the drone shot, the wagons are cg. Its clear as day. I gotta admit its very convincing to the casual viewer. But you look a little closer and its clear. It would certainly answer your questions about the chances of it happening right in front of him. A very clever blend of real world camera footage and a CG train overlayed on top.
@@justandy333 Think you may be right. Just watch the motion of the train as it passes, its not moving in a fluid like motion. It moves in frames per second kinda jerkiness. Another giveaway is the way the coal is spread inside the cars you can see like every second car has the same shape of cargo and the color of the left hand wall`s shadows is the same every second or so car.
@@leemer1 Yea, the coal spread also got me, its too uniform and the lack of soot or dirt on the wagons. But I gotta hand it to him, its very convincing at a casual glance. If I was a CG talent scout, he'd definitely get a job!
A good demonstration of built-in safety features of the air brakes; train breaks, air pressure drops, uncoupled cars stop themselves. I bey those breaks were hot.
The American rail road system is something else. I have been fascinated with is since motorcycling across the USA. From Scotland its difficult to get a perspective the landscape. I was amazed the first time I saw one of those freight trains 5 mile long with 4 locos at the front, 2 in back and one in the middle. In Texas I rode along route 60 for a day Ammarillo to Albaque riding along next to the reack it took hours route pass this train me doing 70 and him probably 65. Astonishing to a Scot, who thought Edinburgh to London was a big trip.
Nah, that's one pissed off Conductor, and dispatcher! That Conductor gonna have to tied brakes from here to Christmas,...on grade too!! Lordy help him,..plus he got to get that knuckle back there somehow!! And it could have been a draw bar with that much weight!! Better him that me!!
This use to be much more common then people think. RRs started using motion simulators in the 1980s to train engineers to deal with the forces faced with the chain of cars.
This is as good as train watching gets ! Wow at the right place at the right time.....Wow !! The sounds, the scenary, again as good as it gets and this is comeing from some one who has visited Tehachapi, Cajon and Garland Pararie Crossing.
@@jasonjamrs7413 Anyone that's ever been on a train for more than an hour has had that happen. I've been on long-haul trains where we were 'parked' for over four hours while freight trains far longer than 1km passed at a snails pace. I still like trains.
Was a truck driver for 40 years but this would have been my dream job. Love the no background music almost makes one feel that their there beautiful job.
You want to see logistical efficiency, look at railroads. Near my office, a train struck another stopped train on the same track and knocked three cars off a trestle onto the roadway below. Sounded like thunder. Two hours later, the rail cars had been cleared and the track was open again.
The one and ONLY thing railroads are truly fast and efficient at. Getting the rails back up after a derailment. Every single one I've ever seen is a spare no expense, any and all overtime, throw money and manpower at it till it's done as fast as possible, affair.
It's like if it was set up... You can never plan these type of captures to happen right in front of you. But like they say, gotta be in the right place at the right time and you my friend nailed it. Top shot.
Amazing shots ! Thank God for all of the safety devices on these cars nowadays. Dad worked at Pullman Standard for over 30 years with a brake only for WW2 service. Most of the last 25 yrs were spent as a coupler hook on man, alignment duties of some sort, part time welder and trainer. I wonder what exactly failed here ? We aren't dealing with 'light weight' parts after all !
@@Guitarman7133 I'll bet that was fun ! Don't remember much about those things. Dad once said there was a special shop for repairs and a team trained for manning a mobile shop for on sight jobs. It's all gone now along with thousands of jobs.
@@kmaassociates7999 APPLY BRAKES!! SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIOOOOEEEE. HISSSSsssss. I was kidding! I just said that so people can comment. I have "KMA" written on my ladders and tools.
However, growing up in BC, we played in the railway yards, and ran across the roofs of the cars, and made friends with the 2 guys who ran the train. They let us ride with them on the put-put, and sometimes ride in the locomotive, and switch tracks for them. Spent most of my childhood playing on the logbooms, and railyards.
Coal trains are usually the biggest culprit for coupler breakage because the load can freely shift back and forth in the open hopper car during transport (usually to a power station or steelmaking facility), thus putting tremendous strain upon the coupler mechanism...
Guys, "breaking" is when something "breaks" or falls apart. "Braking" is applying "brakes", the two words are completely separate and not interchangeable.
There was a "break" in the train which caused the emergency "brakes" to apply. When the cars separated the lines connecting the brakes were broken. With a broken air line the brakes apply. The OPs grammar might have been off a bit but his word usage was spot on. Give us all a break on the grammar lessons.
@@tsmcraedy4564 For someone who likes to critique others' usage of the English language while simultaneous complaining that others do, you have pretty poor usage yourself. I have corrected your post. It should have read as follows: There was a break in the train, which caused the emergency brakes to apply. [Using quotation marks like you did is completely incorrect, and generally used to imply "so-called." Were you saying "so-called break," and "so-called brakes," as though you thought that's not what they actually were?] When the cars separated, the lines connecting the brakes were broken. [Clearly you do not believe in commas, either.] With a broken air line, the brakes apply. The OP's [possessive needs an apostrophe] grammar might have been a bit off the mark, but his word usage was on point. [Ending a sentence with a preposition, while common even in the works of masters such as Dickens, is poor form. Additionally, how does one mount a bit to later get off of it?] Give us all a break from [unless you think taking grammar lessons IS a break] the grammar lessons. Consider yourself better educated now. :) I will say that the way you used both repeatedly in relevant sentences was funny and made me smile.
“1989 Helena train wreck” From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. The Helena Train Wreck occurred in the early morning on February 2, 1989, in Helena, Montana, United States, when 48 cars of a Montana Rail Link freight train that had been decoupled from their locomotives by a train crew on Mullan Pass rolled backwards down the pass, traveling nine miles back into the city of Helena and colliding with a work train at a railway crossing near the center of the community. The collision resulted in a fire and explosion that damaged Carroll College and other nearby structures, knocked out power to most of the town, and led to the evacuation of residents within an area of 2 square miles (5.2 km2) due to concerns of possible toxic chemical release. The event occurred during a severe cold snap, with temperatures below −30 °F (−34 °C) that morning and with a wind chill factor of as much as −75 °F (−59 °C), which froze the water that firefighters used to attempt to extinguish the fire.
I’ve heard from residents that the cars were traveling about 80 mph by the time they collided in Helena. I think that now cars have brakes that automatically engage if they get disconnected from the main train.
bigedslobotomy kinda crazy to make you think that it would take a major tragedy like that before someone would finally say "hey, maybe we should install something like an automatically locking break mechanism on these trains Just in case they ever break a coupler or something..." And then his boss would be like "Carl, would you shut up!! That'll never happen. These trains *never* break couplers."
I hear about things like this and wonder if a town had advanced warning would it be illegal for them to sabotage the tracks outside town somehow? That is force a derail away from people.
He did help. He went to the back of the train and pushed it up to the front part of the train. They coupled the cars back up a few zip ties and some duct tape. Good as new, off they went.
How many people are waiting for the decoupled cars to start rolling back downhill? Hell of a coincidence to happen right when someone's recording too. I love these drone footages in the middle of nowhere, That mountain scape in the background is so beautiful
No one that knows anything about trains would because once the pressure line is severed on the cars the brakes automatically cut in and stay locked until pressure is reapplied after the cars are reconnected… Been that way since the mid 1800s…
Emergency brakes are released at 2:08. You can see the break at 2:30 and 3:15. As long as that train was (a helper engine can be seen in the middle at 1:30), I bet it took a while for the engineers to trek their way back. And I feel sorry for the people who got stuck at the railroad crossing. Just a little bit furthur, and they would've been able to go through.
This happens more then you think and not just hauling black rock. Used to be around trains in Northwestern Montana back in the Burlington Northern days. Derails from snow drifts and even the small trestle failures is pretty scary.
Yep, lucky catch, right spot, right time. In 2000 I was at Daytona for the Busch race when Michael Waltrip flipped. It happened right in front of me and I caught a picture of it a split second, and mere inches, before the car slammed back on the track. Perfect capture on film. It could have happened anywhere on the track, or not at all. I just got a lucky shot of it.
I was on a passenger train that came apart. It was in the mid '70s on CN in the middle of nowhere in Northern Ontario. I noticed there were clouds of steam (most passenger trains used steam heat back then) and when I looked out the window, I could see the locomotives going around the curve, without any cars. The coupler didn't break, but the steam pipe did, which meant no heat in the middle of winter.
@@LarJgrip Steam heat. The locomotives have a steam generator, which provides heat for the train. The locomotives are diesel. This was back in the '70s when a lot of the rolling stock dated from the days of steam locomotives. These days, it's electric heat.
But how? How could the train enter emergency braking if it uncouples? Also, how can the uncoupled wagons brake also? All they have are emergency braking valves on each wagon that need to be applied manually. Is there some sort of trigger that applies braking on wagons if they uncouple? Also, triggers emergency braking in loco?
I suspect that this was done on purpose look there is a sighting to the right just as this happens so what i believe is he cut those last cars and is preparing for something just don't know what. Ive seen this happen few times now with bigger trains
What caused the uncoupling ? A bade air break hose, a bad coupler or coupler release ? Good thing they have air brakes that require air to release. Semi truck trailers do too. Escalators have similar but released electricly when ran and a magnet holds them so it wont freewheel down if full of people.
When one of those breaks how much of an ordeal is it to repair? I'm assuming they carry spares, but is it as simple as pull a pin, drop the old one, instert new one, and you're ready to recouple?
Yes, but the knuckle weighs roughly 70lbs so either you carry it (could slide it on a broom handle and drag it). Conductor could throw the spare knuckle on the ground at the locomotive then have the engineer pull the train forward until the last car, put the knuckle on the last car somewhere and conductor gets on and has the engineer shove the train backwards to the other half of the train. Last, if there’s a service road AND there’s a rapid responder or other railroad service vehicle in the area they could give the conductor a ride back the spare knuckle. Takes all of 2 minutes to change one if there’s no problem
**Yeah, looking at this scenery, it's obvious why they chose to name it British 'Colombia'. Its practically identical to Colombia, South America** The sparse vegetation, the cold temperatures, the barren, snow dusted mountains with the Coca trees growing on top, and the obvious lack of wildlife diversity...... Yep, just like Colombia! Lol
A good friend of mine, who is a Conductor for UP, says that a break that far back on the train is a real pain the butt. He says the conductors have to carry the knuckles, or what ever they have, to fix the break. He says the knuckles weigh a ton... ( or so it seems when you've bucked it that far back!)
They dont carry the knuckle that far man trust me I do this for a living if you're smart you take knuckle that's still good put it coupler that broke get engineer to drop off knuckle at head end ride it up to it put it on coupler you replaced other 1 with and then ride back make joint boom done that's probably a 10,000 foot train with the break apart about 9000' ft back anyone who walks with a knuckle weighing 50lbs that far on uneven ground is an idiot lol
I was standing right beside one when it broke apart. It was mostly multis and came to a stop without any squealing. Strange to see a train open up right as it was going by me. Great catch.
Had this happen locally. Driving along the highway I hear a BANG. Loud as all else and then the squeal of brakes as the back half of a train disconnected.
Thanks algorithm for reminding me of the chem plant job I hated but made alot of money at. Also for letting me see all these comments where people fail to understand how air brakes on trains work. Hand brakes on rail cars are a backup in case someone leaves the airline valves closed while the car is parked... temperature change can create enough pressure to potentially release the brakes if the valves are closed. To who ever needed that your welcome.
This was a random video to stumble upon. Made me google longest coal train ever, and lo and behold it was here in Australia. Record was set in 2001 and the total length was 7.53klms, not surprising considering Western Australia is massive so. The total trip length was 273klms.
Question for anyone in the rail industry please. When you have an engine in the middle of a train like this vid shows, do you need another driver/conductor/engineer in that middle engine or is it all fly by wire? Thank you in advance.
That's the way they haul them now. 100 tonne cars 110 to 150 long unit trains. Load coking coal at one of the 4 Tech Corp mines in the Elk Valley and unload at Westshore Terminals at Roberts Bank just North of the Tsawwassen ferry terminal.Number of locomotives depends on engine size.Either 2 or 3.
@@billsilversides1620 Seems obvious that broken couplers happening often and blocking the rail crossing, is an indication that they are doing something very wrong.
that's pretty good. light and shadows are the hardest and give you away here as well. Your shadows need work. See how the shadow of the train is a little too big and don't really match going down? Looks like you forgot the shadows for the two poles at 3.54, with the one pole after that showing way too tall of a shadow.
Wow there is no scenery like that here in South Jersey! What luck is that to have the broken train stop right in front of you, while running a ground camera and a drone. Thanks much for sharing.
No, I personally talked to a CN Engineer( the driver of the train), and he told me( actually two of them in my car) they said sometime the length can be 5 miles.
My daughter in an engineer for CP Rail, there is no max in train length, the limit is after 5 miles / 8 km the head end has an issue with controlling the helpers and pushers.
There is a max train.length for sure! If there wasnt and you had 2 trains that are 5 miles long each and they have a meet and the siding is only 4 miles long what are they going to do? So they definitely have a max train length I'm not sure what it is though
I have never seen trains this long. Frankly, I'm astonished those couplers don't break all the time. The physical loads on those couplers must be enormous. Thank you for this video; it was enthralling.
Thanks
It is all about momentum. You are right ,to just pull this enormous mass with one link will break anything, even highest grade of tungsten carbide. However if the acceleration is gently applied then the gain in momentum is gently applied from truck to truck, and the couplings can cope. However it takes skill from the driver. Moreover, before staring, often a train backs closing all the couplings together to ensure an even delivery, one truck at a time, as it then goes forward. Also they accelerate from zero mph very very slowly.
This isn't even that big. Looked about 120 cars. I've had more than a few that were 3 miles long. Regularly get potash trains that are 186 cars and 54 million pounds.
At 1:56 ish you can hear the slack run out or in. My guess is the engineer knocked down the throttle or backed off the dynamic and that force went through the train and found the weak knuckle. Changes in terrain over scanners can be difficult because you can't use the air brakes on the cars cause there's a good chance it will set off the detector with hot wheel alarms.
The train with the mountains in the background.....beautiful.
I agree ... Would make a nice painting 😉😉
Looks like Big Bear... the view from Johnson Valley, Lucerne Valley, Apple Valley into Victorville. Observed Motorcycle Trials riding area's.
Or a hideous amount of diesel machinery polluting the pristine landscape? Yeah, real beautiful.
@@tlong4577 you're absolutely right.....would be much prettier with the valley filled with broken abandoned freight wagons and the carcasses of the thousands of horses that would have died trying to produce that same amount of energy.......should I even mention the environmental devastation that would result from the use of land as animal breeding and feeding......or perhaps it could all be done with magical electricity.....ya know.....the kind of electricity that doesn't rely on coal , oil , river dams , or nuclear energy....
There are 7 billion of us on this planet.....the cell phones and computers we use to write these comments , as well as use of long life batteries and solar panels are being proven to be much more environmentally dangerous than modern rail service or the diesel they consume
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Can we just take a step back and watch in amazement at hot much weight these engines can tow.😎
And Elon said his semis would beat freight trains
Fauk! Pretty well says it
I was thinking about how much weight is on the first few couplers when the train starts and stops.
@Dream Chaser through the mountains.
These big Electric motors have a hell of a lot of torque.
My God, what a perfect catch! Must be like winning the lottery to have the drone straight in the action zone
traveling out west from ohio earlier this year i couldnt believe how massive the trains were. 2 engines in the front. 1 in the middle and 2 at the rear. very impressive
on the prairies in Canada, 5-6 locomotives up front is very common. Some trains are 2 miles long
@@dougbenson8975 Holy cow! 2 miles long! That's alot of weight.
Most people have no idea how heavy these things really are - just the weight of one car is enough to turn a human into a pancake without even slowing it down. I worked in a rail repair shop for a couple years as a surface prep/repaint crewleader...really makes you appreciate the air brakes when you have to move uncoupled singles around without them. We had a couple of track engines but most of the time they were tied up or it wasn't practical to use them for moving just one car. We would usually shove the cars toward the blast booth with a skid steer to get them rolling, and we'd have to time the handbrake engagement to get it to stop within +/- 5 feet of where it needed to be so the blast hoses would reach. Kinda fun but nerve wracking at the same time - mistakes didn't happen often, but when they did it was usually expensive. 🤣
Thanks for sharing my friend.
THIS is where school kids should be taken to for field trips... rather than just museums and sporting events. Maybe then they'd appreciate the electricity in their homes... and the men behind the scenes who provide it.
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20 thousand tons.
It's a train, I'm sure the folk have an idea
@@mrswampgass2186 Most people have no idea. They think the locomotive is the heaviest part, with empty traincars being comparable to semis in weight. They ain't.
Very interesting, thanks
Nice to see that the safety features work, and nice of the company to show us.
This occurs more frequently than most folks might imagine. No matter how skilled the engineer ("hoghead") is in managing "slack" (which is the key to how locos can move so much tonnage), the breakage of a coupling knuckle or, more seriously and far less frequently, a drawbar will occur. I saw this as a fireman when serving with one of the most competent locomotive engineers I had the pleasure to work with.
Spare knuckles are kept in the locos that brakemen are taught to replace when this happens.
Thanks for all your hard work keeping these trains running. Our society would collapse overnight without them.
Thank you! I guess they always stop after decoupling to recouple from probably years till now.
That’s pretty cool, thanks for the nugget of info 👍😁
Just imagine all that equals just a few rods of uranium
@@ryry187 don't get hooked on uranium or any other radioactive material, it's just like eight-track tapes. Actually the universe is full of energy which comes from the spiritual side of our reality. The same energy that keeps the spirit in our bodies and leaves when we pass is tappable and usable for all our needs.
With all the thousands of miles of tracks one has to wonder HOW and WHY that drone was in EXACTLY the right place to catch this on video ??? And can you imagine the HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of TONS that long ass train must weigh?? Absolutely amazing...
Pure coincidence. This area of track is a hot bed for rail fans.
If you look closely during the drone shot, the wagons are cg. Its clear as day. I gotta admit its very convincing to the casual viewer. But you look a little closer and its clear.
It would certainly answer your questions about the chances of it happening right in front of him. A very clever blend of real world camera footage and a CG train overlayed on top.
@@justandy333 Think you may be right. Just watch the motion of the train as it passes, its not moving in a fluid like motion. It moves in frames per second kinda jerkiness. Another giveaway is the way the coal is spread inside the cars you can see like every second car has the same shape of cargo and the color of the left hand wall`s shadows is the same every second or so car.
@@leemer1 Yea, the coal spread also got me, its too uniform and the lack of soot or dirt on the wagons. But I gotta hand it to him, its very convincing at a casual glance. If I was a CG talent scout, he'd definitely get a job!
You would think we would see a pic of the broken coupler....ya think?
A good demonstration of built-in safety features of the air brakes; train breaks, air pressure drops, uncoupled cars stop themselves. I bey those breaks were hot.
Ikr
Interesting to think Westinghouse came up with all these safety features.
Any chance the driver could miss the incident ? and does the signalling system detect if a train has lost a part ?
he wont go over a signal pickup on track, so the signals behind wont change.
when the train comes apart it severs the airline. The brakes automatically come on.
The locomotive in the middle of the train is a robot locomotive the engineer controls it from the lead engine
Wow breaking apart and stopping with the break right in front of you, that has to be a once in a life time catch right there
yah it was cool
And two different camera angles of the same spot. Methinks this was a prearranged test.
it is almost too coincidental
CGI? Looks like a recreation of what actually happened.
Great demonstration!!
The American rail road system is something else. I have been fascinated with is since motorcycling across the USA. From Scotland its difficult to get a perspective the landscape. I was amazed the first time I saw one of those freight trains 5 mile long with 4 locos at the front, 2 in back and one in the middle. In Texas I rode along route 60 for a day Ammarillo to Albaque riding along next to the reack it took hours route pass this train me doing 70 and him probably 65. Astonishing to a Scot, who thought Edinburgh to London was a big trip.
Man. Talk about perfect timing.
slicaltimistical1 right on a hot box detector to boot!
I transport railcrews to and from jobs. Listening to them talk, apparently this happens a lot. Pretty cool to see. Thanks!
Watched loads of these back in 2016 when we drove Calgary to Vancouver. Fantastic sight. Great video thanks for sharing
That mountain backdrop is awesome.
Nah, that's one pissed off Conductor, and dispatcher! That Conductor gonna have to tied brakes from here to Christmas,...on grade too!! Lordy help him,..plus he got to get that knuckle back there somehow!! And it could have been a draw bar with that much weight!! Better him that me!!
This use to be much more common then people think. RRs started using motion simulators in the 1980s to train engineers to deal with the forces faced with the chain of cars.
This is as good as train watching gets ! Wow at the right place at the right time.....Wow !! The sounds, the scenary, again as good as it gets and this is comeing from some one who has visited Tehachapi, Cajon and Garland Pararie Crossing.
Thanks it was gold
This is an extremely rare event in all my years on British Railways , I never had to deal with an incident like this .
Don't UK railroads only run like 30 cars max to a train?
I love trains. Something so soothing and calming about... well, just watching them go by and hearing the whistle in the distance.
You're not stop at a railway waiting for a kilometre-long train to go pass at 10kph
@@jasonjamrs7413 Anyone that's ever been on a train for more than an hour has had that happen. I've been on long-haul trains where we were 'parked' for over four hours while freight trains far longer than 1km passed at a snails pace. I still like trains.
Those pesky trucks always giving thomas a hard time
Why am I watching this lmao
Jack 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Damn Troublesome Trucks
Childhood memories maybe...lol
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, like they did BACK in 1954. Still get a tear in my eye when I hear an old train in the night.
If that was in the UK the train would straddle two counties. Amazing.
yeah we have lots of room in Canada
nonsense it would have stopped in about the same distance . I should know , I dealt with them over here for nearly 60 years .
@@welshpete12 he means the length of the train!
I'd say two COUNTRIES lol.... how many cars were there ?
I was thinking along the same lines, it would be passing through 5 or 6 stations at the same time!
Those mountains are so beautiful in the background
Amazing footage and a great perspective! You really were at the right place... at the right time!
Thanks
I grew up in western Colorado, near the tracks and we could feel the vibrations of the coal trains coming before we could hear them.
Thanks for the real sounds. That was a beautiful treat. Looks like the area around Kamloops.
It looks more like the canyon on your way to 100 mile
It’s ashcroft.
Yes, it does look like around Ashcroft area
~ Just east of Ashcroft.
@@sigmanfloyd7179 Is that the Fraser river there beside the tracks?
Was a truck driver for 40 years but this would have been my dream job. Love the no background music almost makes one feel that their there beautiful job.
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You want to see logistical efficiency, look at railroads. Near my office, a train struck another stopped train on the same track and knocked three cars off a trestle onto the roadway below. Sounded like thunder. Two hours later, the rail cars had been cleared and the track was open again.
So they just kept sending more trains into the spot until all of the remaining cars had been knocked away?
The one and ONLY thing railroads are truly fast and efficient at. Getting the rails back up after a derailment. Every single one I've ever seen is a spare no expense, any and all overtime, throw money and manpower at it till it's done as fast as possible, affair.
To break a jar bar on a on a locomotive or car means the engineer was hit in the throttle on a Lil on the heavy side..
Wow. That mountain range looks like something out of a Bob Ross painting!
I was thinking the same thing.
It's like if it was set up... You can never plan these type of captures to happen right in front of you. But like they say, gotta be in the right place at the right time and you my friend nailed it. Top shot.
Amazing shots ! Thank God for all of the safety devices on these cars nowadays.
Dad worked at Pullman Standard for over 30 years with a brake only for WW2 service. Most of the last 25 yrs were spent as a coupler hook on man, alignment duties of some sort, part time welder and trainer.
I wonder what exactly failed here ? We aren't dealing with 'light weight' parts after all !
THE CURVY PART OF THE KNUCKLE BROKE OFF. I WAS THE GUY WHO HAD TO REPLACE IT.
@@Guitarman7133 I'll bet that was fun ! Don't remember much about those things. Dad once said there was a special shop for repairs and a team trained for manning a mobile shop for on sight jobs. It's all gone now along with thousands of jobs.
@@kmaassociates7999 APPLY BRAKES!! SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIOOOOEEEE. HISSSSsssss. I was kidding! I just said that so people can comment. I have "KMA" written on my ladders and tools.
However, growing up in BC, we played in the railway yards, and ran across the roofs of the cars, and made friends with the 2 guys who ran the train. They let us ride with them on the put-put, and sometimes ride in the locomotive, and switch tracks for them. Spent most of my childhood playing on the logbooms, and railyards.
Caught lots of sea-perch and seatrout off the booms. Tons of huge bullheads too!
Coal trains are usually the biggest culprit for coupler breakage because the load can freely shift back and forth in the open hopper car during transport (usually to a power station or steelmaking facility), thus putting tremendous strain upon the coupler mechanism...
Guys, "breaking" is when something "breaks" or falls apart. "Braking" is applying "brakes", the two words are completely separate and not interchangeable.
I just spell both those versions as brayk. Eliminates confusion.
There was a "break" in the train which caused the emergency "brakes" to apply. When the cars separated the lines connecting the brakes were broken. With a broken air line the brakes apply. The OPs grammar might have been off a bit but his word usage was spot on. Give us all a break on the grammar lessons.
@@tsmcraedy4564 You clearly missed grammar at school and still don't want to learn.
@@tsmcraedy4564 For someone who likes to critique others' usage of the English language while simultaneous complaining that others do, you have pretty poor usage yourself. I have corrected your post. It should have read as follows:
There was a break in the train, which caused the emergency brakes to apply. [Using quotation marks like you did is completely incorrect, and generally used to imply "so-called." Were you saying "so-called break," and "so-called brakes," as though you thought that's not what they actually were?] When the cars separated, the lines connecting the brakes were broken. [Clearly you do not believe in commas, either.] With a broken air line, the brakes apply. The OP's [possessive needs an apostrophe] grammar might have been a bit off the mark, but his word usage was on point. [Ending a sentence with a preposition, while common even in the works of masters such as Dickens, is poor form. Additionally, how does one mount a bit to later get off of it?] Give us all a break from [unless you think taking grammar lessons IS a break] the grammar lessons.
Consider yourself better educated now. :) I will say that the way you used both repeatedly in relevant sentences was funny and made me smile.
wow glad you are educated enough to tell us that lol
Amazing how the remnant stopped right in the middle of your steady frame. You were so i n tune with those machines!
“1989 Helena train wreck” From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. The Helena Train Wreck occurred in the early morning on February 2, 1989, in Helena, Montana, United States, when 48 cars of a Montana Rail Link freight train that had been decoupled from their locomotives by a train crew on Mullan Pass rolled backwards down the pass, traveling nine miles back into the city of Helena and colliding with a work train at a railway crossing near the center of the community. The collision resulted in a fire and explosion that damaged Carroll College and other nearby structures, knocked out power to most of the town, and led to the evacuation of residents within an area of 2 square miles (5.2 km2) due to concerns of possible toxic chemical release. The event occurred during a severe cold snap, with temperatures below −30 °F (−34 °C) that morning and with a wind chill factor of as much as −75 °F (−59 °C), which froze the water that firefighters used to attempt to extinguish the fire.
I’ve heard from residents that the cars were traveling about 80 mph by the time they collided in Helena. I think that now cars have brakes that automatically engage if they get disconnected from the main train.
bigedslobotomy kinda crazy to make you think that it would take a major tragedy like that before someone would finally say "hey, maybe we should install something like an automatically locking break mechanism on these trains Just in case they ever break a coupler or something..."
And then his boss would be like "Carl, would you shut up!! That'll never happen. These trains *never* break couplers."
I hear about things like this and wonder if a town had advanced warning would it be illegal for them to sabotage the tracks outside town somehow? That is force a derail away from people.
Awesome video!!!
WOW... AFTER the train went into emergency (2:09)… it still went approximately 30 car lengths before it stopped
It can take a fully loaded train upwards of a mile to come to a stop.
I worked on the railway over here in Britain for 44 years and I never had to deal with one of these !
3:30 Maybe the dude who lives in that little, silver house can help out.
He did help.
He went to the back of the train and pushed it up to the front part of the train. They coupled the cars back up a few zip ties and some duct tape. Good as new, off they went.
@@Disciple_Of_Lerxst flex tape
Seeing these trains and hearing the sound reminds me of the 80’s and that theme tune ‘until tomorrow I’ll just keep moving on’
This a rare catch. But it’s cool you caught it! Especially with the drone footage!
How many people are waiting for the decoupled cars to start rolling back downhill?
Hell of a coincidence to happen right when someone's recording too. I love these drone footages in the middle of nowhere, That mountain scape in the background is so beautiful
No one that knows anything about trains would because once the pressure line is severed on the cars the brakes automatically cut in and stay locked until pressure is reapplied after the cars are reconnected… Been that way since the mid 1800s…
Emergency brakes are released at 2:08. You can see the break at 2:30 and 3:15.
As long as that train was (a helper engine can be seen in the middle at 1:30), I bet it took a while for the engineers to trek their way back. And I feel sorry for the people who got stuck at the railroad crossing. Just a little bit furthur, and they would've been able to go through.
There was a CP truck stuck at the crossing. A guy got out and closed the air valve so the train could clear the road.
they didnt trek back ahaha... they went on and sent back engines from a siding ahahah
did you see the second train behind at 4 30
johnny llooddte that’s a tail end remote engine. Not a second train
On a different track? Pulling ?
This happens more then you think and not just hauling black rock. Used to be around trains in Northwestern Montana back in the Burlington Northern days. Derails from snow drifts and even the small trestle failures is pretty scary.
Beautiful mountains.
Love the sound of a train.
The landscape is amazing. It looks like CGI, even though it’s real.
Thank you George Westinghouse!
Great video! Feel bad for the conductor who has to deal with that mess.
lol yah they were sitting for a while
Hopefully that foreman had a knuckle in his truck
I love those whistle echos at the beginning. And ya, perfect timing.
Slapback reverb from that little hill in the background!!
Got to suck for the guys waiting to cross the road. Geez, move forward a little bit.
Amazing clip. Just goes to show the effectiveness of braking systems to pull the cars up
Yep, lucky catch, right spot, right time. In 2000 I was at Daytona for the Busch race when Michael Waltrip flipped. It happened right in front of me and I caught a picture of it a split second, and mere inches, before the car slammed back on the track. Perfect capture on film. It could have happened anywhere on the track, or not at all. I just got a lucky shot of it.
A few wheels with flat spots by the sound at 1:02 , 1:29 , 1.44 , and 1:54 .
2:25 would make a great horror movie sound effect!
Scary
Agreed!!!
I will take it as a ringtone for my smartphone! No! I will take it for alarm clock sound!
It's a horror movie for that Conductor who has to fix that mess!! We use to say, it's a good day to be an Engineer. Way too fast for that much weight.
I was on a passenger train that came apart. It was in the mid '70s on CN in the middle of nowhere in Northern Ontario. I noticed there were clouds of steam (most passenger trains used steam heat back then) and when I looked out the window, I could see the locomotives going around the curve, without any cars. The coupler didn't break, but the steam pipe did, which meant no heat in the middle of winter.
Still use steam
@@LarJgrip Steam heat. The locomotives have a steam generator, which provides heat for the train. The locomotives are diesel. This was back in the '70s when a lot of the rolling stock dated from the days of steam locomotives. These days, it's electric heat.
@@James_Knott
My mistake
Do they automatically brake when they lose air hose connection
Yes, when the train breaks apart, the air hose is disconnected, and the drop in air pressure triggers full emergency braking on all cars.
I love the echo of the train horn in the mountains
anyone with the inclination to cross in front of a train should watch this and see just how long an emergency stop takes...
Yeah. no one cares.
To have 2 different cameras to capture this moment seems almost unbelievable.
yup it was a 1 in a million
Wow thats a great catch
But how? How could the train enter emergency braking if it uncouples? Also, how can the uncoupled wagons brake also? All they have are emergency braking valves on each wagon that need to be applied manually. Is there some sort of trigger that applies braking on wagons if they uncouple? Also, triggers emergency braking in loco?
I suspect that this was done on purpose look there is a sighting to the right just as this happens so what i believe is he cut those last cars and is preparing for something just don't know what. Ive seen this happen few times now with bigger trains
I love this landscape.
The safety feature worked perfectly !!!!!!!! Smart people make these things happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW, and to have a drone right there at that spot to film it, almost as if it was set up!
What caused the uncoupling ? A bade air break hose, a bad coupler or coupler release ? Good thing they have air brakes that require air to release. Semi truck trailers do too. Escalators have similar but released electricly when ran and a magnet holds them so it wont freewheel down if full of people.
I've fitted knuckle couplers, heavy as hell, very awkward to handle, and will remove you fingers in a flash if your'e careless !
Aaand conveniently blocks the railway crossing with the last two cars lol... Perfect timing and placement indeed! Haha
Holy crap, that’s one long ass train!
Yes The Doobie Brothers wrote a song about that train.
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When one of those breaks how much of an ordeal is it to repair? I'm assuming they carry spares, but is it as simple as pull a pin, drop the old one, instert new one, and you're ready to recouple?
Yes, but the knuckle weighs roughly 70lbs so either you carry it (could slide it on a broom handle and drag it). Conductor could throw the spare knuckle on the ground at the locomotive then have the engineer pull the train forward until the last car, put the knuckle on the last car somewhere and conductor gets on and has the engineer shove the train backwards to the other half of the train. Last, if there’s a service road AND there’s a rapid responder or other railroad service vehicle in the area they could give the conductor a ride back the spare knuckle. Takes all of 2 minutes to change one if there’s no problem
70lbs is a lot of weight to carry to the back of a train! At least when you get there is sounds like a smooth change
Thank you :)
That's some beautiful scenery there.
**Yeah, looking at this scenery, it's obvious why they chose to name it British 'Colombia'. Its practically identical to Colombia, South America** The sparse vegetation, the cold temperatures, the barren, snow dusted mountains with the Coca trees growing on top, and the obvious lack of wildlife diversity...... Yep, just like Colombia! Lol
These trains are extremely high tech worked to perfection when the train went into emergency, no derail, no one hurt
The size of that thing... unbelievable
4:15 PERFECT stop so that the last two cars block the intersection!!! That was a pro engineer conducting that train!! 😳😂🙏
This is the comment I was looking for. Happens Every. Dang. Time.
What a catch dude! This is awesome! I'm glad nobody was hurt.
Are you for real
A good friend of mine, who is a Conductor for UP, says that a break that far back on the train is a real pain the butt. He says the conductors have to carry the knuckles, or what ever they have, to fix the break. He says the knuckles weigh a ton... ( or so it seems when you've bucked it that far back!)
They dont carry the knuckle that far man trust me I do this for a living if you're smart you take knuckle that's still good put it coupler that broke get engineer to drop off knuckle at head end ride it up to it put it on coupler you replaced other 1 with and then ride back make joint boom done that's probably a 10,000 foot train with the break apart about 9000' ft back anyone who walks with a knuckle weighing 50lbs that far on uneven ground is an idiot lol
I was standing right beside one when it broke apart. It was mostly multis and came to a stop without any squealing. Strange to see a train open up right as it was going by me. Great catch.
Had this happen locally. Driving along the highway I hear a BANG. Loud as all else and then the squeal of brakes as the back half of a train disconnected.
How would you know something went wrong 150 car at over 1km long or do you get to the station then realise you're a bit shorter then you started with
@@jasonjamrs7413 The whole train goes into emergency when it pulls apart so you would know something is wrong.
Amazing shots. Drones are great!
They are!
Thanks algorithm for reminding me of the chem plant job I hated but made alot of money at. Also for letting me see all these comments where people fail to understand how air brakes on trains work. Hand brakes on rail cars are a backup in case someone leaves the airline valves closed while the car is parked... temperature change can create enough pressure to potentially release the brakes if the valves are closed. To who ever needed that your welcome.
I closed my eyes and just imagined those last cars rolling back from where they came, reaking havok along the route like Christine. I was amused.
Damn those Canadian trains are freakin huge.
This was a random video to stumble upon. Made me google longest coal train ever, and lo and behold it was here in Australia. Record was set in 2001 and the total length was 7.53klms, not surprising considering Western Australia is massive so. The total trip length was 273klms.
The Train makes a really great sound
Question for anyone in the rail industry please.
When you have an engine in the middle of a train like this vid shows, do you need another driver/conductor/engineer in that middle engine or is it all fly by wire? Thank you in advance.
Nobody in the robot…it’s radio controlled.
Surely this is a test. Right spot would have to be an unbelievable coincidence
100 000 bucks an hour to shut down the main not a test
Great catch. I was a little surprised there was only one engine unit in the middle of the train.
That's the way they haul them now. 100 tonne cars 110 to 150 long unit trains. Load coking coal at one of the 4 Tech Corp mines in the Elk Valley and unload at Westshore Terminals at Roberts Bank just North of the Tsawwassen ferry terminal.Number of locomotives depends on engine size.Either 2 or 3.
@@billsilversides1620 Seems obvious that broken couplers happening often and blocking the rail crossing, is an indication that they are doing something very wrong.
that's pretty good. light and shadows are the hardest and give you away here as well. Your shadows need work. See how the shadow of the train is a little too big and don't really match going down? Looks like you forgot the shadows for the two poles at 3.54, with the one pole after that showing way too tall of a shadow.
... there really is a conspiracy for everything now isn't there?
I also faked the moon landing LOL
Looks like that is in the fraser canyon south of cache creek. Love the drive through there
wow, great catch
at the right place at the right moment
Beautiful scenery, i love the mountains.
Drone cam just makes it look like GTA.
Great footage and I noticed that there was a train bridge in the background are trains still using that today
Superb filming, and what a catch .
Just had to leave a comment. Love the name of your channel
Amazingly well shot, camera on a drone, I suppose. Thanks for good entertainment!
Or maybe a really tall cameraman!
Wow there is no scenery like that here in South Jersey! What luck is that to have the broken train stop right in front of you, while running a ground camera and a drone. Thanks much for sharing.
Did you know CP train can be 5 miles long, that's a lot of train, that's why they have a few Engine pulling it.
One of the kind footage.
actually they are limited to 3 miles or 5km
No, I personally talked to a CN Engineer( the driver of the train), and he told me( actually two of them in my car) they said sometime the length can be 5 miles.
My daughter in an engineer for CP Rail, there is no max in train length, the limit is after 5 miles / 8 km the head end has an issue with controlling the helpers and pushers.
There is a max train.length for sure! If there wasnt and you had 2 trains that are 5 miles long each and they have a meet and the siding is only 4 miles long what are they going to do? So they definitely have a max train length I'm not sure what it is though