Ducati XDiavel Review - First Ride
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- Ducati XDiavel Review - First Ride: I've admired the brutish looks of the awesome Ducati XDiavel ever since it broke cover back in 2016 and I'm thrilled to say, thanks to the nice people at Ducati UK, I've now had the chance to ride and live with one for a month. In this first video of several on the bike, I give you my initial impressions review....
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I own an Xdiavel, a 2017 Rocket 3 Roadster and I test rode the new Rocket the other day. I will say that the XDiavel is more like a sports bike and when you get it over 4 grand in the revs it really starts to kick hard, it corners WAY better than that rear tyre gives it any right to. The old vs new Rocket 3 is a bit of a meh, new the Rocket 3 does feel like its got more kick in the mid range compared to the old one but the engine really wants to be down low all the time. They get a bit buzzy up high, the rocket really likes being in the 2.5k rpm range.
Interesting - so which do you prefer the new Rocket or the XDiavel?
@@TheMissendenFlyer If you are mainly on open roads and highways, the rocket engine feels more at home than in the city. If you are doing lots of urban riding the Xdiavel is so maneuverable in comparison I would use it.
Great review as ever. In my experience Diavels are one of those marmite bikes (to look at) but present a real surprise when you actually ride one and get to wind the throttle right open. It’s certainly a barking mad bike and I’m glad that manufacturers step outside of the norm from time to time where most bikes tend to follow a very familiar format. Looking forward to the next review.
Agreed!
IMO the Diavel and XDiavel are the Kings of cruisers, in 2012 a group of us rode down to Barcelona for the Catalunya Motogp, we met up in Larne (NI) ferry terminal, there was 11 of us all on sports bikes or sports tourers (Fireblades, R1s the smallest bike being a GSX-R750 plus a Hayabusa and Blackbird), the last bike to arrive was a Ducati Diavel ,which had us all exchanging glances ,reading minds probably thinking "this is gonna hold us back", by the end of our first day on the French motorways we were completely proved wrong and even when we left the autoroute south of Lyon the Diavel kept closer to the sports bikes than it had a right to, it really was an eye opener and from your test the XDiavel seems like a step up.
I don't often disagree with you on a bike review but this is one of the machines I've had a bit of experience on and I have some opinions on yours:
- Mirrors - You may think they're OK through town etc but wait until you get onto a motorway or get moving on an A road. They vibrate so much that you can barely see behind you!
- Engine could be smoother - No no no no no. This is a big ol' thumpin' L-twin with 1246CCs. It is not meant to be smooth. It is meant to roar with aggression and constantly remind you that you're on a monster of a Ducati machine. You want smoothness? Ride your STriple! ;)
- Clutch is a bit stiff - I found this to be an odd statement. I found the clutch to be wonderfully light, especially as it is a hydraulic clutch. Maybe try adjusting it to see if it helps?
- Exhaust noise - It may sound muted at low speeds/revs but that's good. Makes it neighbourhood/town friendly ;) Get it singing above 3-4k RPM and you'll find it roars!
Thank you for the video. I look forward to seeing how your thoughts develop on this machine.
How strange that we think differently on some key points! Stay tuned though as loads more to come on this bike....
I was going to chime in about v style twins, but you covered it. :) parallel twins are meant to be smooth, v twin type motors are supposed to let you know they are there constantly (within reason).
the point wasn't that you cant make a v-twin smooth, it was that a v-twin isn't meant to be smooth. just like a parallel twin is meant to be smooth but can be made to not be.
so you are claiming that a ducati is smoother than a parallel twin, ok then.....
@@michaelhayward7572 You are absolutely correct. This is why they had to rubber mount the Commando engine back in the 60s. The 90 degree v twin has inherent PRIMARY balance but it does suffer from the lesser, secondary vibrations. Anything bigger than about 750cc in a parallel twin usually needs balancer shafts to reduce the vibrations. Unfortunately they add rotating mass, which brings other problems.
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Not a better looking machine out there. Gorgeous
Wow, I never realized it was a belt drive bike. Very cool to see you ride this beast - definitely a different style for TMF but an informative review. Beautiful bike.
For the record, the regular Diavel is chain driven. Ducati (for some reason) went after Harley owners with the X-Diavel.
Love the "Anti-fun police" feature that blurs the TFT screen at 65mph.👍
That new GoPro not working so well on anti-shake mode, your speedo keeps going all blurry at high speeds lol. Cheers from John in Sooke BC
At the time I bought my Diavel one of my friends bought an XDiavel. Like mine his brake reservoir leaked and proved impossible to cure, vibrations caused both our number plates to fall off, cured by fitting Tail Tidies which looked better anyway but worst of all was the front tyres 'square off' very quickly and required more changes than the rear! We found Termi exhausts was a brilliant mod but a cheaper and as good alternative is GPR. I ride 'feet forward' Cruisers and conventional bikes but still screw up putting my feet on Cruiser pegs sometimes riding off after 40-odd years:-) Accurate review as ever thanks TMF.
Hi Paul, it will be interesting to see if you agree with my final analysis on this bike as my views on the machine changed a little the more I rode it - stay tuned for more coming soon!
That lay-by you stopped at is an infamous spot for dogging!.....Good job it was daylight when you pulled up to do the walk around .😉
Mark B and you know this how?????
@@rumien1383 local knowledge..
I couldn’t possibly comment....
I just love the look of this machine, a work of Italian art. My friend has one and says it’s so easy to ride and his wife is even brave enough to ride pillion with him. 😁
Wow - what a lady!
TheMissendenFlyer, agreed, he does have the optional back rest fitted, still looks uncomfortable for a pillion
A different seat to the one shown in the video I assume ? :)
I have this exact bike and love it, always stopped by other bikers to admire it so strange to see so many negative comments. Don't knock it till you try it!!
I’ve got one too, same colour as this. Like you I really rate this bike, comfy fast and handles great
It does handle well enough at most speeds but the posture is all wrong for performance and 160 hp. It's the answer to a question no one asked. Mid corner bumps at speed are dangerous on that machine.
DadTube .some of us need forward controls due to disability... this bike is the perfect answer to a question I asked..
@@big500 Fair enough but I still don't know what Ducati was thinking. Cruiser riders are afraid of this level of hp and those who are not will use it to generate big speed. Try to take a corner quickly and it becomes apparent that having your ass above the rear axle is less than ideal. Glad you like the bike - ride carefully.
Great ride vlog andy, Amazing machine and the bonus it looks good too !!
Result!
I agree with your view on the forward controls. After an hour or so on my Harley, my back would be killing me. On my Ural, I can do 12/13 hour rides with no problems because my feet are below me. It is also hard to brace for a big bump with forward controls. Nice review!
Seems to me that some nice big analogue clocks would be much more fitting to this bike's style than that little digital display.
Its the nuts, what a beast. Great review as usual.
Cheers Ken!
Good grief it looks lovely.
Not a lot going for it for me:
Useless mudguard on the front - potential radiator grief
Useless rear mudguard - crap under the seat
Boring colouring
horrendous forward pegs - no chance of getting your feet to a safety position quickly when it gets out of shape
pointless rear seat!!
And the good points:
Love the clear bars and "framed" forward view - brilliant for videos
Love the forward master cylinders, I wonder if the front faces are designed to throw air across the knuckles and thus reduce wind?
Cool looking exhaust even if its not great sounding
ITS A DUCATTI!!!!
Great first review Andy, look forward to the stuff to come!
No it' the best colour but then again its my bike!
@@MrPHL1 Sorry Phillip I'd have to glam it up a bit with some red trim or something!
Rode one last year and really liked it ,way more capable than you would imagine. That is until you hit a bump at speed which feels like your spines gonna shatter. The rear shock stroke is really short and ramps up to quickly
Yes - I agree and learned that the hard way....
Got keyless ignition on my Tiger. Turn the key fob on, tuck it in your inside pocket and forget about it. No keys bouncing up and down scratching stuff. No worry about leaving them in the bike . . . ever. Nice accessory port where the key would normally go. Handy if you have sat nav, phone etc. Electronic steering lock. Get more than 3 or 4 foot from the bike and it shuts down. I keep a normal key with the key for the padlock I use in my garage in my trouser pocket as I need this for the top box. It's no real hardship using a standard key in the ignition but I love my keyless.
Fair do's!
Woke up this morning to find both TMF and Lamb Chop reviewing power cruisers.Where will it end ??? Next thing it will be Harley's 😱👍
Very much on my list!
Good review as ever TMF, it's a beast!. Not my cup of tea, but so glad it's out there....I never want bikes to get too cosy or similar! Cheers, Steve
Agreed, the world of bikes would be much less interesting if it was all just sports bikes. I’m never gonna own one of these, or a Triumph Rocket but hopefully people do buy them so interesting and different bikes keep being made
I test rode a 2015 Diavel Dark and loved it, but ended up going with a Multistrada S Touring for sheer practicality.
If I could afford two bikes, the second would be a Diavel.
Forward pegs on the X-Diavel don't do it for me, TBH.
Gives you a real shove in the back when you opener up!. Best line ever mate.
Ducati makes stunning bikes, no question. None I would buy based on a price/value standpoint, but I love to look at them.
Great review, and thanks for the walk down memory lane. I studied in Buckingham 10 years ago. Lovely little town.
Cheers Nathan, glad you enjoyed it!
Instead of a horn test could we know the revs at motorway speeds..it be nice to know when some bikes are bleeding your ears at 70mph...keep up the good work
Was really intrigued by this first ride. In the wet. On slimey roads. A Cruiser?? No screen, no heated grips, no luggage points, no pillion seat, maybe single seat Morgan or Atom owners might be tempted, but not me! I look forward to understanding the reason that (my projection -) why the 10 buyers a year sposh nearly 21k on this quirky machine. How fortunate are we to armchair ride the thing for free ☺ Can't imagine Mrs Flyer getting excited for a ride. On the rear mudguard. That rediculous rear tyre - do see if it goes well on sand dunes Andy.
Beautiful video as always. Rain or Shine, TMF rides and delivers the best review! :-)
You’re too kind sir!
Happy New Year Andy and thanks for this. You can’t have too many Ducati’s or Triumphs in the garage! This bike was one of the bikes I was attracted to on my Re-entry into biking but my Monster 1200R fills the Ducati space until I can get my hands on a Streetfighter! Now that is a man’s bike! Looking forward to your later reviews on this and, like you, I think this is a great looking muscle bike. Yours aye, Alan
Good review but the Rocket 3 is the one for me after watching Chops review 😎
Yes I’d love a go on one of those!
Looking forward to the Rocket 3 comparison, my pal has a diavel which I hope to try both look great.
I love the look of these and one day will give it a demo. I’m more a super naked fan but it’s great to see so many bike options available. We’re a varied bunch us bikers.
Great review as per usual Andy. Thanks brother.
Thank you....
Personally I think this bike is a masterpiece in form and styling! I don't know why they push the popularity of the other Diavel when that bike looks bloated and....just stupid! Just looking at the Diavel X makes me want to put one up in my apartment as purely artwork and a conversation piece. I love the aesthetic! Also fuqing white vans! Thanks for this video!
Color combination and bigger rear seat is what sells the 1260
Thanks for another great review of a very nice bike.
The only thing I disagree on is that battleship grey (aka plastic lego brick grey). Yamaha put the similar grey on the MT-10 and I think the Tracer now, and for me it's probably the worst thing to happen to bikes in the past ten years. The grey here isn't quite as godawful as the Yamaha version but it still looks pretty plasticky and nasty. A few shades darker and it would be the Mad Max goods.
Anyhoo nice one!
Good first review Tmf we will get a honest review from you and I see lamb chops is reviewing the Rocket 3 so both have excellent reviews thanks from Danny 👍
Yes he’s obviously one of the lucky ones to get a go! - I’d love a go on one of those....I’m sure I will eventually....
TheMissendenFlyer be interested to see what you think of the new rocket 3 vs this bike! I’ve been pondering on the idea of selling my 2016 R1 and getting a muscle cruiser and those 2 bikes are the ones that peak my interest! Looking forward to see your final review!
Can you do a ride test on a Benelli 502c? It's inspired by the Xdiavel but ofcourse cheaper and less powerful. But it's in my price range. Would be a huge favor if you do that. Cheers.
If I had access to one I would!
TheMissendenFlyer Just because you replied to my comment, I know you will do a review of it. Thanks
Awesome review Andy.
I only just watched your review of the 40,000 mile rented Ducati this morning.
Excited for this one. Dream bike.
Hope you review rocket 3 soon
So do I!!!! Sadly not been able to get a go one yet....and don’t think I haven’t asked!!
@Review Master Wow. You must be a hugely experienced rider. What with all the reviews saying the exact opposite of what you are saying. Have you even ridden one?
An ignition switch would be a whole lot simpler, although I guess an owner would get used to the keyless procedure.
I agree - I’ve never been a fan of keyless ignition interlock bikes....
Another cracking review as always 🏍👌
Superb video and the bike looks cooler than the other side of the pillow
Heroes riding in the UK winter , noticed no heated grips , looks like heated gloves ?
Brilliant channel
Best regards Shaun
Thank you Sean, and well spotted, no heated grips so heated gloves essential in the UK winter!! Thanks for watching and for stopping by, all the best - TMF
Nice! Was looking forward to this
A pretty much loaded BM GS1250 for similar money, I know which I'd rather have! 20k for this bike, they must make massive profit on these, no way it's worth it in my opinion.Variety is the spice of life though so it's always interesting to see these reviews! cheers.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by!
Good review TMF, looking forward to seeing how you get on with the bike over time.
Peace!
Lots to come on this one Graden - stay tuned!
The bike looks fab and glad you have it for a few weeks to get a longer term view of it. Get hold of a Rocket 3 soon and do a head to head!
Will certainly try!
Good video Andy / Great fast cruiser
The damn thing looks like a spaceship! I love it!
Great video TMF, and what a machine. Thats one beautiful looking bike, absolutely gorgeous. That colour is stunning.
Not for me, unless I get a lottery win, but stunning none the less.
You and me both! Thanks for watching - TMF
Your ride looked......moist.
I would expect a cruiser to handle slow speeds, its the sporty ones which want to run all the time.
Hmmmm. Following a Merc on a 'Merc-y' old day eh? Very good!
Like it!
I think everyone now wants a Rocket after watching LCR review :) now that is out of the box big time! Hopefully will attend the launch with him at Washington this weekend...
Did a test ride on this bike today. Enjoyed it. But found it had alot of vibration too. Agree about the sound also.
You had a busy day!
@@TheMissendenFlyer lol I did. The dealerships were a few miles apart too.
Love your blogs, you mention seating in every video ( quite correctly )..... Could you set up camera , albeit very briefly, to show you sat on it ,( on side or center stand) so we can appreciate the leg position, stance , better. With a bike such as this, this would be very important.
Keep up the great vlogging! Robbie, expat in Bulgaria
Thanks for the ride. You make this beast of a bike look almost tame, maybe I shall give one a try - maybe lol. :>)
I don't mind the plastic brake fluid reservoir on my Speed Twin. Nice and easy to see the level !
Fair enough...
I,ll have a triumph rocket please
And the new Rocket has 100NM more torque...
Have a nosy at LCR first impression just out. Rocket 3 for me as well.
I think this looks fantastic in "stealth grey". Perhaps sport mode would elicit more volume?
Cool bike, more suited to a summers ride to the coast than the cold wet A413
Lived in Buckingham many years ago, it's a lovely town
Agreed! Not the best time of year to borrow a cruiser for sure!
Having just watched LCRs review of the new Triumph Rocket I think this bike is now pretty much redundant.
Well, I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder... and this particular beholder doesn't see any beauty in the xDiavel. Interesting to see how it rode though. Thanks.
Indeed it is, i think its beautiful, absolutely stunning. But, to each his own right! 👍🏻
Another great review TMF. But LCR has a Rocket 3 at the mo. Time for a super cruiser showdown?
Alas I record my video's some time in advance, the Xdiavel is no longer in my garage!
New Rocket 3 for me over this.
Yes, the Triumph edges it and actually looks better value for an over £20k motorbike. The Ducati is great, but is way too expensive......£18 tops, imo. The Triumph seems more like a bike from the future, a modern day Akira or Tron bike you can go out and buy
I look forward to one day riding one!
Not a fan of forward controls but it is an intriguing ride. Thanks for the review.
Love that grey!
Great review, good job 👍🏼
Thank you
If you don’t like the feet forward position there’s the regular, more sporty Diavel. I like the look of these but it would have to be a second, or third bike for me. Usual good review, thanks Mr F!
I think you can get the pegs on the XDiavel centre mounted too...
Looking at the new rocket this thing looks like a learner bike 😃
Yes the rocket is a bit of a monster isn’t it.
Agree Rocket is a beast but this is 200lbs (90kg) lighter!
I love the looks of this bike. As you point out Ducati paid attention to the details. Handlebars remind me of my Indian. Color is excellent. Probably would change out the exhaust. Excellent review.
Thank you Ray
I'm loving the quirky look 😊
Not my sort of bike to be honest, however it’s always great to hear other people’s thoughts on different machines. The Merc in Buckingham, was that Mrs TMF? As always thanks for sharing the video and I look forward to seeing the next one. 👍🏻
Nope it wasn’t.....cheers - TMF
Why's it still in primer? Yuk! Fer 20k I'd want 2 grands worth of paint on it!
😀
Yeah, the color really is a miss on this one. Metallic candy red or metallic amethyst blue would make this bike look 5x better.
Personally, I'd probably love metallic emerald green the most but that's just the Kawasaki fan in me talking. lol
But yeah, needs a hell of a lot better paint than this one for sure, especially for that kind of money. The price tag is what it is because I suspect the bike is aimed at outlaw-wannabe male celebrities to use for their public appearances since it's far too impractical for us mere mortals. Can't deny its beauty though, but that's purely subjective. And the belt drive is a nice touch.
Yeah, it's Italian. It needs to be in bright RED !
Didn't like it at first but as the review went on, it grew on me. I agree, keyless ignition is a gimmick, and that rear tyre must cost a bomb. but was quite impressed by the end (well, apart from the price tag). Roll on Monday and the second Slovenia vid (with hopefully better weather than this one!!). Oh and some more flying ones please :o)
Hi Matt, thanks for watching and for the comment - yes another Slovenia video coming on Monday and I can guarantee much better weather than on this film. Loads more to come on the xDiavel soon - stay tuned!
Like yourself not a cruiser guy, but then again this is no ordinary cruiser, test rode the standard version and loved it, stunning looking shame exhaust is quiet as looks really nice.
Love this bike - great stuff!!!!
To me that is a gorgeous machine. A bit expensive. Looking forward to your next vids on this Ducati. 👍🏼
Must admit this is a bike I like will be following this with interest
Lots to come! Stay tuned!!
Colour is the default choice, have to fix that exhaust.
I like the colour. Each to their own.
Great initial review!....just watched LC's Rocket 3 first review, so will be very interested to hear your thoughts on that! Not keen on the battleship grey and the view behind the bars just looks a little uninspiring for a 20k bike. Interested to see what your thoughts are after more time!
Yes stay tuned Vernon - loads more to come and eventually I’m sure I’ll get to ride the Rocket 3 (it’s not for want of asking I can assure you...). I’m obviously talking to the wrong dealers!!!
I see another comment likened this beast to Mike Tyson; fair comparison. But, I was thinking it’s closer to Eric Scott “Butterbean” Esch. Why? Well, the ol’ Butterbean could deliver a knockout punch outta nowhere and, from all accounts, he’s a gentleman too. Hey, if a bike’s designed to be a celebrity it’s fair to compare it to other celebrities, right? Hmmm, wonder what a Rowan Atkinson would look like . . .
Good review thx ✌️👍
Thank you for watching and for stopping by!
Great review bud as always, very tempted by this beast but don't think the wife will enjoy that pillion seat 🙄 🤣
No she refused to try it.....
Its stunning, id only change the mirrors into something more retro and suiting
Watching with the closed captions turned on X diavel becomes XD Apple... thought was a new iPhone lol
Great video as always TMF. Question. Those heated gloves look tasty! Please could you tell me what make they are please? I've just bought a naked Zero motorcycle and would love a good pair of heated gloves for this time of year. Thank you in advance.
They are Keis 601's - review coming in due course!
That little instrument display looks like a bus ticket to me.
I'm in two minds with this one, firstly the price, it's not priced to sell is it ? It is definitely in the higher income bracket for those who can afford more than most. The look of the machine tends to make the rider feel cool, so an ego boost and it has a high 'pose factor' too.
Having said that it still handles very well and is after all a Ducati so has a fair bit of credibility and not many Ducati's these days are aimed at commuters are they ?
That's pretty much what most of us think, and the rocket too.
If Mike Tyson made motorcycles, this would be it.
I was thinking Eric Scott Esch, "Butterbean" - but you’re likely more on the mark.
Nah... mt would make Rocket 3 more likely.
Just make sure your helmet covers your ears!
I really really wanted to buy this as I think it's probably the best looking motorcycle in the market. I've always had inline 4 bikes and when I test rode it, I just didn't like the way the engine sounds and feels. Handling was also a bit rough and I felt that I had to fight it coming out of round abouts.
You and Lambchops need to hook up for a Bruiser Ride.. Rocket 3 GT, and XDiavel... acceleration, stopping, sound and overall. Chopsie only has the Rocket for 1 week
I record my videos in advance - sadly there’s no overlap....
126 nm? Tut tut you want to get yourself on a real cruiser 😂🤪
I don’t know you youngsters....the way to get the most out of a beautiful ride is with subtlety and finesse, it’s not all just about the size of what you have between your legs and what thrust you have.....
Hi 👍😎good vid nice bike
Looks absolutely great & a very good review as ever. Although I don't think I'm ready for a cruiser as I just can't cope with the peg position so I would have to move them & great that you can. I'm sure you'll get used to the original position but it instinctively doesn't feel right or comfortable imo when I've tried cruisers before. I am definitely getting old & thought a cruiser could be the way to go but oddly they just do my back in unfortunately. What a miserable old man I am lol!
Me too!!! ....and I did get used to the feet forward position in the end - though I have to say never really liked it....
If you shop around you can find them cheaper. Especially winter time!!
ducati like all manufacturers appear to have forgotten the pillion seat ..guess we'll have to keep buying tourers.
The Ducati "Batchelor" maybe ?
any way great review from your side young Mr Flyer ..
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Yes that rear “seat” is hilarious....
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Next time you are up this way, give me a shout. I'm about 10 miles from Silverstone. See what you think on the V4SS.
Great to get your insights on the X. looking forward to your upcoming videos. I think your initial comments are spot on. I purchased the 2017 year model with the addition of the comfort seat which has a backrest for the pillion and I ride it all day (I interchange the standard and comfort seat depending on where im riding, it literally takes seconds for the change). Reading some of the comments, there is a Krieger converter kit that bolts under the passenger seat enabling you to attach 50 litres of luggage if you want to take longer trips. I've subsequently added heated grips that are controlled via the menu button and displays the heat setting through an icon on the main display and moved the pegs to the closest setting. Darren, I had a similar experience with the suspension. I've added pretension to the rear spring and wound back the rear damping 1 turn from the factory setting and its made a huge improvement without compromising handling albeit it is firm. I find the bike easy to clean and haven't experienced any vibration issues with the mirrors at freeway speed. I'm still learning which combination of electronic controls and suspension set up works best for me. I find the throttle control at low revs smoother in the sport mode. The other bike I considered purchasing was the Rocket 3. Looking forward to your review on the updated model which looks amazing. The X puts a huge grin on my face every time I ride it.
Be nice if you could do a dual vlog with LCR, while he has the Triumph Rocket 👍
If only I still had the xdiavel!
@@TheMissendenFlyer and going by your Instagram. By the time you get back, Chops probably wouldn't have the Rocket either.