35's and NO LIFT on my Jeep! How are they on the road!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ธ.ค. 2020
- How's it going guys, thanks for watching! In todays video I give you guys my thoughts and experience with adding bigger tires to my jeep and how that effected the on road driving experience.
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Dakota, Thanks for the honest review! Need some more camping trips!
Thanks for watching man! And I’ve got some that I’m planning 👌🏻
After seeing ur few videos on this. On & off pavement with the 35s. I just did the same thing last weekend. 35x12.50 on my JL Rubicon 2 door. Gas mileage dropped for few days expectedly. Once I calibrated the speedometer and trans. Gas mileage came up. Not to mention the 35s on it made a much better look.
Really good review. Keep’em coming 👍🏼
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
I love that you are doing this all incrementally because you learn so much at each stage - I will do the same. Can't wait to see the 37's / 2" lift! Maybe try new wheels with a negative offset first and see what happens?
For sure! If/when I go 37’s I’m definitely going with some different wheels.
Thanks for watching!
I was going to go down a similar path to with bigger tires the 35’s and bigger wheels and a 2 inch lift kit, but decided not to because for me my rubicon is still very capable as she sits .Only upgrade I did was add a winch to me is a must especially if you are off-road and by yourself on the trail . Please keep your rubicon videos coming as i always like them. I did dickey bell which is a badge of honor trail in S.C with my rubicon and got my badge of honor for doing it
You’re right about how capable they are 100% stock. What I like about these tires is that they really don’t require a lift. Just throw them on there and they look like it was supposed to come that way from the factory haha. And I’ll have to look into that trail I haven’t heard of it before 👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
I might get the 2023 4DR Rubicon soon, thinking to just get 2" spacer and 34 or 35" tyres, UHF radio , some decals and that is it. Same colour as yours, granite crystal
Dude I’m putting down my order for a 2021 2 door rubicon manual in sarge green this Saturday...... keep posting the great content!
That sounds like an awesome Jeep!!
Awesome dude! That’s definitely a cool color!
Thanks for watching!
Are you able to order manual JLs new?
@@MrSiyamson definitely, in my area you can’t find a stick stock
@@ariantariverdi2617 those sales bastards made it clear to me that Jeep wasn't producing manuals anymore so I settled for a sahara unlimited altitude manual.. nice spec but not a rubicon...
Bro you literally hit like every question I have about owning a 2 door jeep. Would like to see how well it tows and if it changes ride quality drastically.
Glad I could help dude! Ride quality got a little better over smaller chatter on the road. As far as towing I haven’t done much towing with the 35’s. The most I ever towed with stock tires was about 1300-1500lbs and it had no issues.
Concur with all for 2021 2Dr Rubi with AT, 35” Nittos and -6 & 4.5” ICON Rebound wheels. Street ride is smoother than with stock BFG 33’s. No noticeable difference in starting out thanks to EcoBoost mini-hybrid system that was required with AT on 3.6. That combo minimizes fuel mph penalty in stop-start driving and AT compensates seamlessly when accelerating at higher speeds. One reason besides cost for not going true beadlock wheels was big sprung weight penalty and I remain convinced that decision made sense. Didn’t bother with Speedo recal since difference in tire diameters is only worth 1-2 mph. 37’s would’ve needed 2” lift to look proportional. Assume that lift affects mpg more than anything else.
I’m looking at eventually going with some icon wheels later down the road. Especially if I got 37’s and a lift.
Thanks for watching!
Another great video. 1.5 MPG loss is not too bad. I lost about that much doing the lift. Your' tag is expired LOL.
Tax Offices are way behind due to Covid.
Haha yeah I keep forgetting to get that taken care of 😂
Big Fan of the channel and appreciate putting all the effort! I’m on the edge of ordering a 22’ with the factory 4.88 gears option. How do you think they will be with 35s? Would they be like “stock tire feel”
Yep. 35’s with 4.88’s will feel great!
Appreciate the support! Thanks for watching!
Great video. I'm just about to pull the trigger on 315/70/r17 KO2s (113S C rated) and also keeping my stock wheels for my 2021 JLR 2 Door. Did you need to add spacers when you went up to 35s? Also, did you need to re-gear or did they adjust the tire rotations to match the mph? Mine is also a stick-shift so I'm wondering what is necessary and your channel has been great since you have the same vehicle!
Thanks!
I didn’t add anything other than the tires. No spacers, no re gearing or anything! And like I said, the dealership calibrated the speedo to the new tires👍🏻
Thanks for watching man!
Currently running MT Baja 35s 4.88 gears on my 2014 rubi 2dr and getting 14mpg.
Awesome.
I drive up and down 3,000' over 60 miles 3+ times a week on I-17 in Arizona and I average 21.2 mpg on stock tires with the 6-speed in my 2021 2-door JLR. Actually average higher city mpg (24 ish) than highway (75 mph) likely because of the brick factor. Either way, the fuel economy is better than when I did this same drive in my old XJ, so I'm happy! Really interested in 35s (with no lift) when my factory set wear out!
Yeah with stock tires you can get the MPG’s to be pretty solid. But 35’s heavier wheels and a lift definitely don’t help haha 35’s and no lift was a nice set up, ran that for while!
@@drivenmad2089 Yeah, I can imagine. I really appreciate how you approach your build and modifications, and taking your time to se what your Jeep can do along the way. Really great for guys like me that blew their savings on the vehicle and can't afford and/or are reluctant to do a bunch of mods at once. Thanks for the great content!
I also get about 22 mpg with my 2Dr Rubicon 3.6L E-torque 8-speed.
Did you flash the computer to adjust for tires size?
Great videos! I have been thinking about putting 35's on my 2018 JLR 2-door automatic. How much has handling been affected at 75 MPH in windy conditions? I've been driving CJ's & Wranglers since the mid-80's, so I realize handling in the wind at highway speeds isn't great. Just wondering how much worse it is. Thanks!
It’s very similar to stock feeling. Cruising at 75 it’s basically the same. I’d say you might notice it a bit on high speed highways with some turns but then you get used to it and it feels normal.
Thanks for watching!
Have a 4door 2021 Rubicon. Tire shops around here tell me I need spacers to use the oem rims with 35's. Where did you get your tires?
So the weigh you refer to when at freeway speed is more of a lack of gearing. You really need 4.56 to maintain the axle/tire aspect ratio.
Do you get ant rubbing at full lock?
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great review! nailed lots of my questions and concerns. Love the stock BFG KO2 on my rubi, so figured 35s would be the same tire. Just the review i was looking for. Only question on the width is do you feel any drifting on the road with more rubber and less connected to the road and feel. When I went big on my old cherokee my tires felt like they were drifting side to side on the highway.
Nope felt normal other than noticing it did sit a little higher from what I remember.
Thanks for watching!
I like your videos. What air pressure on the highway, and off road?
With 35’s on road 40-45PSI which is what BFG recommends. Then off-road I do 15ish PSI.
Thanks for watching!
Just ordered my 2021 2 door rubicon. Pretty excited. Really like your videos. What’s the exact size of these tires?
Congrats on the order! And these are 315/70R17’s they’re 34.4 inches tall. Where as the 35x12.5 is 34.6 inches tall.
@@drivenmad2089 thank u sir. I live not far from you over near College Station. Are there any not to difficult trails u can recommend??
@@chadmcfadden9286 yep head to hidden falls adventure park. They have a decent amount of easy, moderate and difficult trails. A lot of stuff there a stock rubicon can do!
Hi Dakota, Question: Does the back seat rattle when its folded up against the front seats or is there something to secure them with? (Yes I am considering getting myself one)
It doesn’t rattle at all. At lease not in mine. And there are straps to keep them from Falling back over under acceleration and what not.
Thanks for watching!
outside of a supercharger, what do you recommend for some better power output? I've heard a couple options, but do you think it would be the increase would be drastic enough to be worth it?
It’s really hard to say. I think if you want more pep then re-gearing is probably the best and cheapest option. That way it’ll accelerate a little better. Other than that then maybe a intake, exhaust, and tune. But I don’t think I’d put an exhaust on my Jeep haha
Thanks for watching!
What are the size of the tires
Have you seen or heard about an aftermarket big brake kit for the JL?
Yep. may or may not do that later down the road. Jeep themselves actually make one as well as a few other companies
Why did you end up lifting? Was it do to the offset of your new wheels or did you feel the Jeep was lacking in some way with the 35/no lift set up?
I ended up lifting it for two reasons mainly, 1. I felt it was time for a change and 2. Since I planned a trip to Moab and had never been, I wanted to play it safe and get some extra clearance just in case.
Still no issues with the 35s on the stock wheels? I know people do it all the time but the 7.5 width worries me a little.
So far no issues. Been off-road a couple of times since as well and still no issues. When you go up to 37’s that’s when you definitely need to change the wheels
Thanks for watching!
What tire pressure are you running on the road with those BFG 315/70R17s on that stock wheel? I was wondering if tire pressure needs to be a bit reduced to avoid "cone" in center and uneven wear?
Actually the opposite. BFG recommends 45PSI compared to 37PSI on the stock 33’s. I actually aired them up to 50PSI for a road trip to Utah I just got back from and there was even tread wear on an 18 hour drive each way.
@@drivenmad2089 Just wanted to follow up that I did upgrade to the BFG 315 70R17. After chalk test seems 33lbs is the happy place for even tread wear. Took a few takes of course to get there. Big difference is that I have a 2019 JLUR, lots of armor, steel bumpers, winch and hi-lift mounted. Maybe all that weight is why my pressure is so much lower for daily driving. Not sure as not any kind of expert, but I can draw a chalk line😉
Here I am with a JK rubbing at full flex with 33s no lift haha
Haha the higher fenders help a lot 🤙🏻
Did you have to buy different size rims or are they same rims?
Nope. These are the stock wheels just with 35’s. If you go to 37’s then technically you would need to change them to at least a 8” wide wheel.
Thanks for watching!
Did you change the rims and tires or just tires?
In this video, just tires. I did eventually change the wheels though.
Thanks for watching!
Still liking those E rated tires?
Love them! Ive driven a few other A/T’s and they don’t ride as well. Even on something like a ZR2 that’s has DuraTracs you can feel them vibrate more.
Thanks for watching!
Are your wheels the stock 17x 7.5"?
Yep, factory wheels
You put spacers On your set up?
Nope. No spacers. Just new tires on stock wheels in this video
just got my jl and want to do some mods. is this a good idea for someone new to jeeps?
For sure. As long as you have a rubicon. The rubicon will let you run 35’s without a lift brigade if the higher fender flares. A Sahara or sport models has different fenders so they (the tires) will probably rub.
Thanks for watching!
@@drivenmad2089 thanks for the info! its a Sport S so I may need a lift/leveling kit
I have wrangler unlimited sport. Can I add 35s on mine too? Will it void my extended warranty?
It won’t void your warranty. But you will probably run into rubbing issues since the rubicon models have high clearance fenders compared to the regular models.
Thanks for watching!
@@drivenmad2089 Thank you! I just might get the 33inches then.
Honestly, these JL Rubicons are complete, there is no need whatsoever to modify these one iota. Perfect stock lift with 33" ko2's. MT's might be necessary for more challenging off roading, but for most, not necessary, as this stock Rubicon is an absolute off road animal. I met a couple with this that was stock and it was fun to wheel with them. I told them what they had and how unnecessary it would be to modify it. They had the steel Rubicon bumper with the ends removed, making it much better off road and it looks a thousand times better, a total badass rig! They know what they have and won't be modifying it. I joked with them and said, my '05 TJ Rocky Mtn is just as capable, only I'm at least $35k under what they paid, but at least they are wise enough to realize they never have to spend a dime on suspension mods.
My '05 is done build wise but thinking of getting ARB lockers and MT's for more challenging trails. Then I'll be
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Do you wish you had opted for 4.88 gearing? Do you ride noticeably higher?
4.88 gearing wasn’t a factory option when I ordered mine in 2018. However with that being said if you go larger/heavier tires then add new wheels that are a little heavier with the manual going to 4.88 would be nice. Not so much for around town but when you’re doing longer highway drives going uphill etc.
and yes when I went to the 2” larger tires I noticed I felt higher than before but a crazy amount.
@@drivenmad2089 Did you mean "Not" a crazy amount?
@@amstaffer haha yes “Not a crazy amount”
Subsrcribed brother of the same ride!
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
Yeah eight speed auto you wont notice lol if you pretend you have no eighth gear.
Jeep did NOT design to handle 35's stock! No rubbing off road? Total misinformation. Look at the XR package to see what jeep thinks needs to be done for 35's. Many changes including brakes and they won't even offer on 2 door! Don't be fooled. He must have a "Magic" Rubicon.
Bro, when the JL came out back in early 2018 they made a point to talk about how the rubicon could handle 35’s from the factory. I also have a video of the jeep off-road with 35’s and no lift. I also have a video of my 392 (that doesn’t have the XR package) with 35’s stock and no issues. Plenty of proof there. Took it out to Moab and 0 rubbing. Relax, not sure why you’d be so bothered by being able to add 35’s with no issues haha.
@@drivenmad2089 Please provide evidence of jeep saying Rubicon can handle 35's stock. Also telling people they wont notice in with 8 auto is ridiculous. Without re-gear your Ruby will be flipping out of eighth on highway consistently. This will not only kill gas mileage but your transmission as well. To each his own but there are many new jeep owners that need to know the correct facts. Just keeping it real man.
@@CharlesB46 go back and watch TFL videos when the JL came out. The engineers talked about it. And again I literally have videos of both of my rubicons with no lift and 35’s going off-road and not rubbing. (Keeping it real) Not sure what other proof you need. And yes you will notice less of a difference with the 8 speed than the6 speed manual since it has 2 extra ratios.