With time machine go back to 1965 and video 1965 Traband from DDR , or spend $ 300,000 more and have you by happy . I suspect this Rubicon is not your ?
I saw a vid where a man who has three jeeps in the family. He has a four door and a gladiator his wife has a two door with his own words said he's jealous that he doesn't have a two door.
The side vents has nothing to do with the hood. The hood problem is in the latches. If you hold your hand in front of them with the fan running the hot air is venting out of the engine compartment.
@@jamesglenn520 go watch the TFL video where they do a walk around with the head of JL development. He specifically says they are not for cooling. Believe what you want, but I’d say he is the authority.
I have a JL with manual trans and soft top. It’s a 19’ and the 20’s were on the lot. I was able to get the dealer to at the rims/tires off of a rubicon to sweeten the deal. I didn’t want a rubi because I mostly run dirt roads and shuttle Boyscouts to camp. There’s a great market for parts people pull off their JL to upgrade. It’s not perfect but it’s mine! I have a CJ5 that was my daily driver, so it’s an upgrade for sure!
The 6-speed manual is great until you stall the Jeep because of the ESS, and I’ve had this occur a few times and it will not restart again until the ECU/PCM powers down. You haven’t lived until you block opposite lanes of traffic simultaneously from making a u-turn and the wrangler literally won’t restart for two minutes.
Most of your issues have some easy fixes/mods. Ex. Seat issue; remove your front seat bolts/nuts and loosen the rear, drop a couple or more washers in the front on each side to increase your lean angle and retighten. Recover your armrest in your preferred material. Theres a device to bypass the stop start. My problem would be 45k for any vehicle. That's insane!
It's nice to see that people really struggle to find things wrong on a Jeep, I guess that's why they are still around and will be for a very, very long time..
Older video, I know, but I have an auto 2-door JL and the auto stop/start is pretty quick. I like to zoom out of a stop and it's not laggy/sluggish or anything, but it is loud, which I didn't notice until I was driving ONCE without extremely loud death metal, haha.
I’ve found that after a while that engine shut off just stays off. I had too keep shutting out off when I got it new but I think the computer realizes that I don’t want to use it so now when I start it or stop at an intersection I don’t have to deal with it cause the engine doesn’t shut off anymore.
The EPA rating for the manual 2 door 2019 JL is 20 combined mpg with 350 miles of range. This test is performed with a sport trim vehicle, which has standard all season tires and a 3.45 rear end. The 4.10 rear on the rubicon alone will hurt your highway mpg on paper by 18-19%, and the tires add more roll resistance which will also hurt it. So take a conservative 22% range loss and youre at 273 miles to a tank. These numbers are based on 45% highway and 55% city traffic btw. So while I agree that 273 is rather low for a 2019 vehicle, its understandable.
Hey don't feel bad. I have a 2016 4cyl patriot that gets less than 300 with the sane size tank. Nearly no mods to lower mpg, ive surpassed every option to optimize mpg and its still sucking gas lol I'd rather have the wrangler at this point.
I disabled the stop/start feature because I absolutely hate it. So much better now. Just take the one hood-up sensor out of its bracket. Took 5seconds to do.
This is also a great way to increase the stress on the fasteners beyond which fca ever designed for. Good luck to You with that..and to your passengers when everyone flies through the fucking windshield.
My man thank you for pointing all of that out. I’m so glad you’re not one of those people who bought an automatic transmission in a jeep..(I’ll never understand, to each his own I guess) but ..on the real... that color, the 2 doors, the manual transmission. Absolutely perfect and beautiful my brother. I’m betting if you do some homework that you can find some way to bypass that engine switch if you haven’t already. The speaker, there must be something available to protect it that won’t hinder too much of the sound. I can’t get over how beautiful she is man. Be proud of yourself for being the owner of such a beautiful machine
Good looking Jeep. That back speaker placement is pretty dumb. I think they should have mounted it in the tailgate but an easy fix Jeep could do is give you a quick disconnect for the grill. Fuel range, seat adjustment and interior materials comments are spot on.
Dirt in the subwoofer is an issue on the 4 dr too. I took the speaker out completely, turned it over and shook it till all the dirt/seeds/fluff etc fell out. It took a while. Also mark the wires so you reinstall them correctly.
My turbo 2.0 AT is relative smooth when you put the gas after the stop... I drove a rental one V6 engine... yes you can heard the engine re-starting again & again! A little of bit annoying!
@Gorgeous Baby Water getting into your engine compartment is fine. You've clearly never been off road if you think that some rain getting *on* your engine is a problem.
@2028 JC you ever seen jeeps or trucks that have long snorkels so they can go basically half down into water and drive through it? As long as the water isn’t getting into your intake you’ll be good
Hey, great video. I am buying a new 2 door JL soon. I have a 2015 JK. The rear speaker issue can be solved by getting a piece of black garden fabric (very thin) and glueing it over the speaker grille. Did that on mine and works great.
That sucks about the sub woofer. I have the same one on my JK, and when you take out the screws the grille comes out and you can vacuum it. What you can do is take a small cheap microfiber towel and put it over the grille and then shut the lid to keep debris out.
You speak as though you are nitpicking. I found your comments valid AND you bring up things that I have not heard anywhere else. Informative and ON THE MONEY!
I agree about the "auto stop/start". I have the automatic transmission and it's still annoying. I sometimes forget to hit the button when I get in and it's almost unsettling when it turns off at an intersection when you're not expecting it. I wish it would remember it's last setting when you start it up. Also, when you opt for the leather interior it upgrades the armrest to soft touch and contrasting stitching along with the dash. Great video! I really like mine and it is hard to pick things I don't like but the auto stop start is at the top of my list.
I considered doing that but I'm not a fan of having a warning light on in the dash. I plan on putting bigger tires on it at some point and then I'll get the Tazer JL to calibrate the speedometer. I'm pretty sure it allows you to disable the auto stop/start.
Agreed, buying a new, expensive vehicle, and bypassing the system for a dash light on continuously is not a solution. The Tazer is one appropriate solution with no dash warning lights. What’s another $350 when you have spent $50k on a new vehicle.
@@michaellenheiser3157 Exactly! I got the Tazer JL Mini shortly after writing the above comment and it did the trick. I've had no issues with it and the stop/start is a thing of the past. No dash lights either.
Have the same Jeep as yours, JL 2dr rubi in sting grey w/ cloth seats, but with a soft top and auto. The start-stop seems pretty smooth and hardly noticeable.
The seat position!!!! YES!! I have fiddled with mine no less than 50 times and still can't get comfortable. Being a taller guy it sure would be nice to be able to pitch it back, as you mentioned. The Auto/Stop feature sucks too.
I couldn’t imagine having to deal with start stop and a manual transmission. Thats a lot of distraction to me. But thats a beautiful rubicon. I just picked up my unlimited sport s last week. So far i love my JL
1, yes it does suck having a smaller gas tank, especially after mods your going to get less mileage on a full tank. 2. Those vents on top of the hood are functional, someone removed the plastic vents and you could see that they are indeed functional. 3. My leather seats on my 18 JLUR are amazing around, comfortable, adjustability is good, durable and clean up nicely, ive had my jeep in all angles and they keep me planted nicely, hopfully maybe they break in for you or you get use to them. 4. ESS isn't a problem for me, when I break engine turns off and when I let off the break engine turns on, it does suck that you have two batteries to maintain. 5. Center console armrest is comfortable, my right elbow rests on there and so does my passengers left arm at the same time. Looks fine to me in my opinion, I also condition it when I do my leather seats, comes out super smooth and Shiney, there is a little wear on it from using it every time I use my jeep. 6. I don't have this problem since I have a JLUR, not a big deal I would assume, I'd just cover it up when needed and to clean it I'd vacuum I up while playing a heavy bass song and or use a air hose to blow the dirt out but doing it carefully
Alexander Perales interesting. Actually I took the doors off the other day and for whatever reason when I disconnected them the auto stop start thing freaked out haha. Thanks for watching!
I agree with your complaints. My 2 door JL Rubicon has an auto so the stop start is smooth (still hate it) and I’m glad I didn’t get the premium sound because there is much needed storage compartment instead. I do love my Jeep though.
Michael Dexter yeah extra space with out the sound system is nice but I love listing to music so I was willing to make that sacrifice haha. And I love my Jeep too. I’ve got the mod bug bad but I can’t afford it 😂 Thanks for watching man!
I have your setup but in 4 door. I used to think the hood vents were fake until I watched jeepinformant’s video. They are functional but only with a hole the size of a silver dollar. The heat shield has a water channel that takes whatever water goes into the hood vents and channels it to the sides of the hood. The hood vents only let a little heat escape but every little bit helps lol.
I'm happy with my 2018 JLU sport, 2 inch Fox lift, 35 inch tires. For the off roading I do, don't need lockers and all the extras on the Rubicon. It gets me everywhere I want to go...
Great video. Love 2D Jeeps with a manual transmission. I was getting ready to buy a Rubicon, however, very limited supply due to the Covid-19. I went to place my custom order for one at the dealership and the GM suggested I wait a few weeks to order a 2021 vs a 2020. Jeep Wranglers are expensive, even with my employer program discount (1% under dealership invoice) I'm looking at $53.5K out the door. All options included excluding the cold weather package (I live in TX) and the Rubicon will not be my daily driver (Chevy Silverado). These dealerships do not negotiate. If you live in California they will add a premium over MSRP.
There are better dealers than that. I’m in California and Rob Trachtman gives 4% below dealer invoice price on 2021 orders. Just check out the JL Jeep forum. Plenty info.
I have a 2018 Jeep JL 2 door manual as my daily driver. Not rubicon though...I totally agree about the range. I totally wish I had like 5 more gallons. The auto stop start on my manual is BIGGEST pet peeve. Purchased the OBD Genie which disables it automatically. Great video.
I feel you about the seating options but funny enough for me I enjoy it because the seat is flat. Just another reason how everyone is different but I get it. Not everyone likes the same thing!
Great job, I'm looking to get a 2 door with a sub-woofer. Now I know to cover it with fabric of some sort before I place the rear mat. Plans are to remove the back seats and run it as a 2 seater.
Fender vents primary funtion is not heat extraction. It is air extraction to prevent the hood from "jumping" around at highway speeds, that combined with the new hood latches made a world of different from JK to JL.
I was able to vaccum the grid out of the speaker. Annoying as hell. But, after, I wedged a square sheet of thin felt between the lid and the speaker grill. Looks clean, let’s sound through amd keeps dirt out.
I bet you can put a large piece of plastic wrap over the speaker then close the surrounding platform and I’m sure it’ll keep it clean without sacrificing too much in sound quality
Great video. Just got a 21 sport last week with 30 k on it. I too was going to take out the screws on that rear speaker to remove some dirt.Glad I saw your video, I won't be doing that.I have to agree with you on the start-stop feature. Its very annoying, I find myself creeping up to red traffic lights so the car doesn't shut off. Other than that its a nice vehicle .Since this video is 5 yrs. old I was wondering if you still own yours
Jeep 2021 2D owner here. Start/Stop is un-noticeable, Very smooth. Interior with the anodized metal is amazing and looks astonishing. I only have 1 gripe. Wish they would have increased the cab by 6 inches to include just a bit more leg room for back seats. Other than that, Fantastic Jeep.
I just got a 2020 Sahara Unlimited and the armrest/middle console is not vinyl like yours. It is the same stitched leather as the steering wheel and it feels really nice
NEO Stephens it’s not hard, but that doesn’t mean its not annoying that I can’t just do it once and be done with it. Imagine if every time you turned your car on the ac or heater was blowing full blast. Not hard to turn it down but it would get annoying eventually haha
@@drivenmad2089 True, but you're pushing a button to start the vehicle, just push another button to turn off start/stop. We've just gotten too lazy. Pretty soon, we'll be complaining about having to open the doors to get in the vehicle. LOL
agree with the points. the main thing really frustrating that there is no 2-door diesel version or u.s. market. (it is for europe, but not for north amer.)
I cut out the bottoms of those fake vents on my Rubicon JT. Remove the insulation and then the vents - all with needle nose pliers. Use a dremel to cut the bottoms out of those vent trays.
I think putting that speaker in the back on the floor was a big design flaw, not just because it invites dust, road dirt etc to live in that speaker cone but also if you are going to load up some cargo in there, for example bags of mulch or soil, furniture, tools, whatever, well you may now have that base speaker covered. What good is that? And what happens if you get some rain water on that speaker cone? Hello!.. Why didn't they mount that speaker on the rear door like my Toyota RAV4 Sport? Thank you for your review.
Have you come across water leaks from the front pillars? I’ve seen several videos regarding this, some have fixes, but Jeep I feel should have this fixed after so many complaints about it.
My2009 JK Rubicon had plastic transfer case linkage- found out the hard way stuck in low range 50 miles from a cell signal. Replaced with stainless steel .
Upgrade to "leather"??? I don't think so. I have two jeep wranglers JK's that are supposed to be "LEATHER". When I sat in a $112,000 SRT Jeep Cherokee Trackhawk, the smell of the REAL LEATHER was very obvious. And so was the fact that the Wranglers leather is not real leather. NO LEATHER ODOR AT ALL!! I keep a pair of buffalo skin leather gloves in my Wranglers just to have a little bit of real leather smell.
@@Rocscrawler couldnt tell you about the JK but the JL has a real leather wrapped steering wheel and the seats are for sure leather when you upgrade to leather. that smell is very dependent on what they did to cure the leather and dependent of what type. the leather in the jeep is coated so it holds up to water better so you wouldn't get much of a smell if any. The trackhawk is a whole different animal. that's like comparing a pinto to a rollsroyce. the price tag is almost double the leather is way different and much more plush. Wrangler had to keep everything weather proof cause its not uncommon to get caught out with the roof and doors off. Not an issue with a trackhawk. but yeah way to different of vehicles to compare. one is a convertable off road vehicle the other a luxury suv set up to go fast on the road.
@@darcyjousset6615 I guess that does make sense. Question then: Does the water proofing or tanning process make it harder for that leather to absorb the leather balm we all use to keep it soft and subtle? Should we be treating it every 3 or 6 months instead of once a year?
Me and my wife want that exact Jeep first thing I would put on is snorkel and winch. The new snorkel for the jl are easy install too 😁great looking rubicon
I heard that when you keep taking your roof off and on, the gasket wears out quite quickly and it actually slightly leaks in rain. Has anyone had such an experience?
Yeah, I decided against the upgraded audio system just for that very silly reason. In any case, I prefer enjoying a sub-woofer effect in my home theater.
that was the 2018 because it didn't have lane monitoring and if you hit someone with the jeep there was a high chance they got hurt. oh and no side curtain air bags. that was a European safety rating not American. most American made cars get crappy safety rating because they are too heavy and cause too much damage to other cars when you hit them.
They get a 2.5 in the states, which is the middle of the pack. One factor for the low rating in Europe is the body on frame construction and steel bumpers. Unibody construction is easier to engineer crumple zones. If European standards were applied to the Wrangler they would lose their off road capability.
@@Lee-gc2mq The EU also mandates pedestrian "crumple zones". Something most Americans would consider ridiculous, especially on a vehicle designed for off road. My 2015 JKU has side airbags. They are located in the back rests of the front seats. I believe the sensor is in the B pillar. One just needs to be aware when fitting aftermarket seat covers.
I agree with you. We are waiting for our 2021 Jeep Rubicon 4 door to come in. It's due to arrive at the dealership today. I'm praying its satisfactory and I am completely in agreement about the seat adjustment, the speaker is absolutely in the wrong place, let alone cant ge cleaned and the inside arm rests should ne made of the same quality as other things in jeep. The fake air vents is a let down.
That was actually really helpful. I didnt know the sub was on the floor for the premium audio, might skip that and just upgrade the stock speakers as I see fit in a Willys.
Cory Sallee it would if I had an automatic but with the manual my foot can be off the brake completely and it’ll still turn off. Thanks for watching man!
What I saw that I didn't like is that the speaker in the back is where my JK Rubicon compartment is. Which is where I keep my Smitybilt air compressor and a few tools and tow rope. On mine, the subwoofer is on the side. Just my opinion.
You describe your complaints as "very nitpicky". I agree with you! Please don't feel like you have to "come up with something" to make a video about. Totally unnecessary.
User Name Right, because pointing out things I dislike is totally the same as saying “I hate this Jeep and I wish I never bought it”. I stated in the video that I love the Jeep haha
Thing I hate most about it:
That I don't own one
this observation it so to the point . Regardless is his .
Same here and my parents have 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
With time machine go back to 1965 and video 1965 Traband from DDR , or spend $ 300,000 more and have you by happy . I suspect this Rubicon is not your ?
No kidding! I'm buying a Willys
I saw a vid where a man who has three jeeps in the family. He has a four door and a gladiator his wife has a two door with his own words said he's jealous that he doesn't have a two door.
The side vents are not for cooling. They are to help equalize the pressure and prevent the hood from fluttering at highway speeds like the JK.
Yes at highway speed it might be for "Hood flutter" BUT he talking about it helping at low speeds with venting heat. So MULTI PURPOSE
Complaining about the hood vents ... 🤦♂️
This is the point I stopped watching… what a complainer!!!
The side vents has nothing to do with the hood. The hood problem is in the latches. If you hold your hand in front of them with the fan running the hot air is venting out of the engine compartment.
@@jamesglenn520 go watch the TFL video where they do a walk around with the head of JL development. He specifically says they are not for cooling. Believe what you want, but I’d say he is the authority.
@@j_k_mark ...Jeep engineers don't know their behind from a hole in the ground
Hey good to see another JL owner with a manual transmission. 👋
Man I was on the fence, I’ve never owned an auto before my JL but I love the 8 speed.
I have a JL with manual trans and soft top. It’s a 19’ and the 20’s were on the lot. I was able to get the dealer to at the rims/tires off of a rubicon to sweeten the deal. I didn’t want a rubi because I mostly run dirt roads and shuttle Boyscouts to camp. There’s a great market for parts people pull off their JL to upgrade.
It’s not perfect but it’s mine! I have a CJ5 that was my daily driver, so it’s an upgrade for sure!
JEKYLL2020 same here man, I love my 8 speed. I also wanted the 2.0t which only comes auto
Heard there's some brutal factory recalls with the JL manuals... also hate the look of that shifter knob. Never held one but it doesn't look comfy.
The 6-speed manual is great until you stall the Jeep because of the ESS, and I’ve had this occur a few times and it will not restart again until the ECU/PCM powers down. You haven’t lived until you block opposite lanes of traffic simultaneously from making a u-turn and the wrangler literally won’t restart for two minutes.
Wow man, I respect you for getting the 2 door manual rubicon. That’s exactly how I would spec mine as well. Love it bro.
Flying Wrench I’m a pretty die hard Manual guy haha thanks for watching man!
IMHO it's always looked so much better than the 4 door.
Most of your issues have some easy fixes/mods. Ex. Seat issue; remove your front seat bolts/nuts and loosen the rear, drop a couple or more washers in the front on each side to increase your lean angle and retighten.
Recover your armrest in your preferred material.
Theres a device to bypass the stop start.
My problem would be 45k for any vehicle. That's insane!
Calm down, grandpa. Your generation ruined the economy in the first place so pipe down.
@@AssMcBlast hey ass, your comment makes no sense
Boughtan aftermarket seat track mount gives me six more inches of room.
It's nice to see that people really struggle to find things wrong on a Jeep, I guess that's why they are still around and will be for a very, very long time..
Really enjoy reading about people who like their jeeps so much, we just kids with bigger toys!
Older video, I know, but I have an auto 2-door JL and the auto stop/start is pretty quick. I like to zoom out of a stop and it's not laggy/sluggish or anything, but it is loud, which I didn't notice until I was driving ONCE without extremely loud death metal, haha.
Tara Babcock haha yeah I can understand that. I very rarely am not jamming 🤘🏻😎
Thanks for watching!
I’ve found that after a while that engine shut off just stays off. I had too keep shutting out off when I got it new but I think the computer realizes that I don’t want to use it so now when I start it or stop at an intersection I don’t have to deal with it cause the engine doesn’t shut off anymore.
The EPA rating for the manual 2 door 2019 JL is 20 combined mpg with 350 miles of range. This test is performed with a sport trim vehicle, which has standard all season tires and a 3.45 rear end. The 4.10 rear on the rubicon alone will hurt your highway mpg on paper by 18-19%, and the tires add more roll resistance which will also hurt it. So take a conservative 22% range loss and youre at 273 miles to a tank. These numbers are based on 45% highway and 55% city traffic btw. So while I agree that 273 is rather low for a 2019 vehicle, its understandable.
James Mastroianni 100% man!
Thanks for watching!
My 2020 gets 14mpg 😖
@@drewskididit996 what trim? oversize tires?
Hey don't feel bad. I have a 2016 4cyl patriot that gets less than 300 with the sane size tank. Nearly no mods to lower mpg, ive surpassed every option to optimize mpg and its still sucking gas lol I'd rather have the wrangler at this point.
@Alex Garibay but what's the size of your gas tank and what mpg do you get. 300 miles if it cost 30 bucks to fill isn't as bad as 80 to fill
I disabled the stop/start feature because I absolutely hate it. So much better now. Just take the one hood-up sensor out of its bracket. Took 5seconds to do.
Stack some washers on the front bolts of the seat lol
Or spacers lol
This is also a great way to increase the stress on the fasteners beyond which fca ever designed for. Good luck to You with that..and to your passengers when everyone flies through the fucking windshield.
@@ShinerBockGirlz lol relax, if someone was concerned about that, upgrade to some higher grade hardware.
@@ALMX5DP stacking washers is the same as putting hockey pucks on your body lift. Thats dangerous
ShinerBock2007
Utter bullshit.
I can’t imagine being as piss-weak as you must be.
My man thank you for pointing all of that out. I’m so glad you’re not one of those people who bought an automatic transmission in a jeep..(I’ll never understand, to each his own I guess) but ..on the real... that color, the 2 doors, the manual transmission. Absolutely perfect and beautiful my brother. I’m betting if you do some homework that you can find some way to bypass that engine switch if you haven’t already. The speaker, there must be something available to protect it that won’t hinder too much of the sound. I can’t get over how beautiful she is man. Be proud of yourself for being the owner of such a beautiful machine
Thanks for watching dude! I love it. Finally started modding it and now I’ve got the bug haha
@@drivenmad2089 you’ll have her tamed and well behaved in no time at all brother! God she’s gorgeous man
Good looking Jeep. That back speaker placement is pretty dumb. I think they should have mounted it in the tailgate but an easy fix Jeep could do is give you a quick disconnect for the grill. Fuel range, seat adjustment and interior materials comments are spot on.
Dirt in the subwoofer is an issue on the 4 dr too. I took the speaker out completely, turned it over and shook it till all the dirt/seeds/fluff etc fell out. It took a while. Also mark the wires so you reinstall them correctly.
My jeep wrangler Rubicon has a few needed modifications lift 40 tires 456 gears and the hemi engine. I love it.
jack hook haha I bet you do! Sounds like a sweet rig. Thanks for watching man!
The Start/Stop feature in the automatic transmission JL is relatively smooth.
Not in mine.
I disagree, in other cars I’ve driven it’s very smooth. However, there is nothing smooth about it in my 2019 JL
My turbo 2.0 AT is relative smooth when you put the gas after the stop... I drove a rental one V6 engine... yes you can heard the engine re-starting again & again! A little of bit annoying!
Mines rough
Works fine in my 2020
The vents on top of the hood easily pop out so you can always swap them for real ones to get better cooling
How will it get in it exactly? I can’t see how it would get *in* it. Unless ur out here driving ur Jeep with the oil cap off
@Gorgeous Baby Water getting into your engine compartment is fine. You've clearly never been off road if you think that some rain getting *on* your engine is a problem.
Nathan Cruz the vents themselves are “real” they aren’t solid but there’s a firewall right under it. You could replace it easily or cut it out though.
@2028 JC you ever seen jeeps or trucks that have long snorkels so they can go basically half down into water and drive through it? As long as the water isn’t getting into your intake you’ll be good
You can buy the incline kit for your seats. They're about $20 and takes about 20 minutes to install.
Hey, great video. I am buying a new 2 door JL soon. I have a 2015 JK. The rear speaker issue can be solved by getting a piece of black garden fabric (very thin) and glueing it over the speaker grille. Did that on mine and works great.
Gary Drake solid idea! Thanks for watching!
I was told the side vents are to reduce hood flutter at high speeds. U can cut out those top vents to make them functional fairly easily also.
Jordan M the side vents do both and true, I could if I wanted it bad enough haha thanks for watching man!
That sucks about the sub woofer. I have the same one on my JK, and when you take out the screws the grille comes out and you can vacuum it. What you can do is take a small cheap microfiber towel and put it over the grille and then shut the lid to keep debris out.
OMG, that is a great idea!
You speak as though you are nitpicking. I found your comments valid AND you bring up things that I have not heard anywhere else. Informative and ON THE MONEY!
I agree about the "auto stop/start". I have the automatic transmission and it's still annoying. I sometimes forget to hit the button when I get in and it's almost unsettling when it turns off at an intersection when you're not expecting it. I wish it would remember it's last setting when you start it up. Also, when you opt for the leather interior it upgrades the armrest to soft touch and contrasting stitching along with the dash. Great video! I really like mine and it is hard to pick things I don't like but the auto stop start is at the top of my list.
Jamie Hastings ahh It makes sense that if you pick the leather upgrade it would do just that haha thanks for watching man!
Why aren’t you guys just pulling the actuator under the hood? Problem solved - small light on the dash is the trade-off; no big deal.
I considered doing that but I'm not a fan of having a warning light on in the dash. I plan on putting bigger tires on it at some point and then I'll get the Tazer JL to calibrate the speedometer. I'm pretty sure it allows you to disable the auto stop/start.
Agreed, buying a new, expensive vehicle, and bypassing the system for a dash light on continuously is not a solution. The Tazer is one appropriate solution with no dash warning lights. What’s another $350 when you have spent $50k on a new vehicle.
@@michaellenheiser3157 Exactly! I got the Tazer JL Mini shortly after writing the above comment and it did the trick. I've had no issues with it and the stop/start is a thing of the past. No dash lights either.
Have the same Jeep as yours, JL 2dr rubi in sting grey w/ cloth seats, but with a soft top and auto. The start-stop seems pretty smooth and hardly noticeable.
Pro tip: Unscrew the subwoofer, hold it upside down and use a shop vac to clean it.
Or hold it out the window and drop the stupid thing out the car 🤦♂️🤦♂️
The seat position!!!! YES!! I have fiddled with mine no less than 50 times and still can't get comfortable. Being a taller guy it sure would be nice to be able to pitch it back, as you mentioned. The Auto/Stop feature sucks too.
Scott Fast I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels that way about the seat. It drives me nuts some times haha
Go for an upholster and add half inche of foam in the half side and you will get a better position
I just purchased a 2019 JLUR and that is the first thing I noticed on it! I got used to it and I must say that I absolutely love it! Go Jeep!
Claude Perrault sweet man congrats! I love mine too. I need to take it off-road soon
I couldn’t imagine having to deal with start stop and a manual transmission. Thats a lot of distraction to me. But thats a beautiful rubicon. I just picked up my unlimited sport s last week. So far i love my JL
Yes no fake vents, where does the water go? Does it pile up on the hood vents or drip onto the engine and electronics. Terrible idea!
1, yes it does suck having a smaller gas tank, especially after mods your going to get less mileage on a full tank.
2. Those vents on top of the hood are functional, someone removed the plastic vents and you could see that they are indeed functional.
3. My leather seats on my 18 JLUR are amazing around, comfortable, adjustability is good, durable and clean up nicely, ive had my jeep in all angles and they keep me planted nicely, hopfully maybe they break in for you or you get use to them.
4. ESS isn't a problem for me, when I break engine turns off and when I let off the break engine turns on, it does suck that you have two batteries to maintain.
5. Center console armrest is comfortable, my right elbow rests on there and so does my passengers left arm at the same time. Looks fine to me in my opinion, I also condition it when I do my leather seats, comes out super smooth and Shiney, there is a little wear on it from using it every time I use my jeep.
6. I don't have this problem since I have a JLUR, not a big deal I would assume, I'd just cover it up when needed and to clean it I'd vacuum I up while playing a heavy bass song and or use a air hose to blow the dirt out but doing it carefully
Unplug one of the 2 hood open/closed sensor; it sends error to disengage engine start/stop. I heard that works
Alexander Perales interesting. Actually I took the doors off the other day and for whatever reason when I disconnected them the auto stop start thing freaked out haha.
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I agree with your complaints. My 2 door JL Rubicon has an auto so the stop start is smooth (still hate it) and I’m glad I didn’t get the premium sound because there is much needed storage compartment instead. I do love my Jeep though.
Michael Dexter yeah extra space with out the sound system is nice but I love listing to music so I was willing to make that sacrifice haha. And I love my Jeep too. I’ve got the mod bug bad but I can’t afford it 😂 Thanks for watching man!
I have your setup but in 4 door. I used to think the hood vents were fake until I watched jeepinformant’s video. They are functional but only with a hole the size of a silver dollar. The heat shield has a water channel that takes whatever water goes into the hood vents and channels it to the sides of the hood. The hood vents only let a little heat escape but every little bit helps lol.
cpgeorge25 ahh good to know! Thanks for watching man!
You have to have the leather upgraded interior to have the leather arm rest.
I am planning to buy this one.
I'm happy with my 2018 JLU sport, 2 inch Fox lift, 35 inch tires. For the off roading I do, don't need lockers and all the extras on the Rubicon. It gets me everywhere I want to go...
Great video. Love 2D Jeeps with a manual transmission. I was getting ready to buy a Rubicon, however, very limited supply due to the Covid-19. I went to place my custom order for one at the dealership and the GM suggested I wait a few weeks to order a 2021 vs a 2020. Jeep Wranglers are expensive, even with my employer program discount (1% under dealership invoice) I'm looking at $53.5K out the door. All options included excluding the cold weather package (I live in TX) and the Rubicon will not be my daily driver (Chevy Silverado). These dealerships do not negotiate. If you live in California they will add a premium over MSRP.
Alfonso Duran I got a pretty solid deal. Or at least I was happy with it knowing there’s no rebates on wranglers.
Thanks for watching Man!
There are better dealers than that. I’m in California and Rob Trachtman gives 4% below dealer invoice price on 2021 orders. Just check out the JL Jeep forum. Plenty info.
I have a 2018 Jeep JL 2 door manual as my daily driver. Not rubicon though...I totally agree about the range. I totally wish I had like 5 more gallons. The auto stop start on my manual is BIGGEST pet peeve. Purchased the OBD Genie which disables it automatically. Great video.
For some reason mine just complete stopped doing the auto stop start haha
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I wish the 2-door had some sort of 60/40 or 50/50 split back seat.
Sendong123 that would be cool!
Thanks for watching man
The seat in a 2door sits between the wheelwells. The seat in the 4door sits in front of them 2door 4 passengers 4door 5 passengers.
There are many companies that sell spacers (specifically for wranglers) to tilt any seat in the car forward or backward by a couple of inches
Great videos man, been following. I appreciate these first hand reviews as I am waiting for my two door to arrive, hopefully any week now!
Forest Frair sweet man! It was so agonizing waiting for mine to show up haha. I’m sure you’ll love yours. Thanks for watching!
I am in my second week of Jeep pregnancy . I was told the delivery would be 4 - 6 weeks and now I read Zackary waited whole 2 months???
Kluk Ztopolovky haha pregnancy is a good term. Mine took about 2 months to come in.
My Auto Stop/Start works smoothly on my new, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport, 4 door, 2.0 turbo, 8-Speed Automatic Transmission.
I feel you about the seating options but funny enough for me I enjoy it because the seat is flat. Just another reason how everyone is different but I get it. Not everyone likes the same thing!
Brian-Benjamin Izdebski that’s very true! Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Great job, I'm looking to get a 2 door with a sub-woofer. Now I know to cover it with fabric of some sort before I place the rear mat. Plans are to remove the back seats and run it as a 2 seater.
Use a leaf blower on the bass speaker to clean it out, obviously use it from a distance so you don’t break it.
SMART !!!
Fender vents primary funtion is not heat extraction. It is air extraction to prevent the hood from "jumping" around at highway speeds, that combined with the new hood latches made a world of different from JK to JL.
They just aren't Jeeps anyone . Overpriced . Buy an old one and have fun with it.
I was able to vaccum the grid out of the speaker. Annoying as hell. But, after, I wedged a square sheet of thin felt between the lid and the speaker grill. Looks clean, let’s sound through amd keeps dirt out.
Excellent idea.
correct gears for the tire size will get you better mileage
Planning to buy this one. 🤔
I bet you can put a large piece of plastic wrap over the speaker then close the surrounding platform and I’m sure it’ll keep it clean without sacrificing too much in sound quality
Jeep designers have publicly confirmed that the rubicon hood vents are functional
Lol lift the hood and just look. If it's not functional it isn't hard to just cut out the openings. It's just plastic and cardboard.
Great video. Just got a 21 sport last week with 30 k on it. I too was going to take out the screws on that rear speaker to remove some dirt.Glad I saw your video, I won't be doing that.I have to agree with you on the start-stop feature. Its very annoying, I find myself creeping up to red traffic lights so the car doesn't shut off. Other than that its a nice vehicle .Since this video is 5 yrs. old I was wondering if you still own yours
air compressor and a vacuum for the speaker.
Jeep 2021 2D owner here. Start/Stop is un-noticeable, Very smooth. Interior with the anodized metal is amazing and looks astonishing. I only have 1 gripe. Wish they would have increased the cab by 6 inches to include just a bit more leg room for back seats. Other than that, Fantastic Jeep.
Beautiful car!!! I’m happy you have that
theScHteaK 🤙🏻
I just got a 2020 Sahara Unlimited and the armrest/middle console is not vinyl like yours. It is the same stitched leather as the steering wheel and it feels really nice
Grantboost Congrats in the new Jeep! And yeah certain packages give you leather there and on the door.
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That's nice. I like manual transmission. I like 2door .
Chrysler Jeep should watch this. Points worth noting. Thanks for making this video.
A Motorcycle Rider Appreciate it!
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2018 jlu rubicon automatic. my start/stop is smooth and no different from our other cars.
Matthew Jung good to know. Maybe it’s just different with the Manual or mines just rougher 🤷🏼♂️. Thanks for watching dude!
How hard is it to just push the button each time you start the vehicle? Just lazy, or just buy a TazerJL.
NEO Stephens it’s not hard, but that doesn’t mean its not annoying that I can’t just do it once and be done with it. Imagine if every time you turned your car on the ac or heater was blowing full blast. Not hard to turn it down but it would get annoying eventually haha
@@drivenmad2089 True, but you're pushing a button to start the vehicle, just push another button to turn off start/stop. We've just gotten too lazy. Pretty soon, we'll be complaining about having to open the doors to get in the vehicle. LOL
whoa, they have start/stop with a manual?
agree with the points. the main thing really frustrating that there is no 2-door diesel version or u.s. market. (it is for europe, but not for north amer.)
The thing I hate about my 2 door is I didn't get a 4 door. Lol
The 4 Door Wranglers are overrated in my opinion.
Thanks. These are the type of things that are good to know and no one Tells you.
Bryan Carney no problem, thanks for watching!
Leave a towel over the rear speaker. 🤷♂️
I cut out the bottoms of those fake vents on my Rubicon JT. Remove the insulation and then the vents - all with needle nose pliers. Use a dremel to cut the bottoms out of those vent trays.
A speaker on the floor makes as much sense as free cow rides at a vegan picknik.
Wonder if door screen over the rear speaker would solve some of that issue or relocation of the speaker ?
I have the JLU in automatic and the start/stop is unnoticeable, I’m like you and hate to have to push it every time I start it up
I think putting that speaker in the back on the floor was a big design flaw, not just because it invites dust, road dirt etc to live in that speaker cone but also if you are going to load up some cargo in there, for example bags of mulch or soil, furniture, tools, whatever, well you may now have that base speaker covered. What good is that? And what happens if you get some rain water on that speaker cone? Hello!.. Why didn't they mount that speaker on the rear door like my Toyota RAV4 Sport? Thank you for your review.
Pull the actuator under the hood - no more stop/start. Done deal! First “mod” that I did on day one of owning my JL & never looked back.
Krasnaludek except then you have a light staring at you on your dash and a message saying it’s disabled or has a problem don’t ya?
@@Anthony-fd8mh Who cares Put a piece of tape over the light or unplug it if it bugs you
R.R. Hughes lol
why do all that when it can be disabled in the media centre...
jean marc Giroux because there is no option to disable it in the media center. There is only the button below the touchscreen radio.
Have you come across water leaks from the front pillars? I’ve seen several videos regarding this, some have fixes, but Jeep I feel should have this fixed after so many complaints about it.
Good vid I really feel like the speaker isn’t a small thing like that sounds infuriating if your trying to jam out
My2009 JK Rubicon had plastic transfer case linkage- found out the hard way stuck in low range 50 miles from a cell signal. Replaced with stainless steel .
George Ryan wow did it really!?
the center arm rest is upgraded when you up grade to leather
Upgrade to "leather"??? I don't think so. I have two jeep wranglers JK's that are supposed to be "LEATHER". When I sat in a $112,000 SRT Jeep Cherokee Trackhawk, the smell of the REAL LEATHER was very obvious. And so was the fact that the Wranglers leather is not real leather. NO LEATHER ODOR AT ALL!! I keep a pair of buffalo skin leather gloves in my Wranglers just to have a little bit of real leather smell.
@@Rocscrawler couldnt tell you about the JK but the JL has a real leather wrapped steering wheel and the seats are for sure leather when you upgrade to leather. that smell is very dependent on what they did to cure the leather and dependent of what type. the leather in the jeep is coated so it holds up to water better so you wouldn't get much of a smell if any. The trackhawk is a whole different animal. that's like comparing a pinto to a rollsroyce. the price tag is almost double the leather is way different and much more plush. Wrangler had to keep everything weather proof cause its not uncommon to get caught out with the roof and doors off. Not an issue with a trackhawk. but yeah way to different of vehicles to compare. one is a convertable off road vehicle the other a luxury suv set up to go fast on the road.
@@darcyjousset6615 I guess that does make sense. Question then: Does the water proofing or tanning process make it harder for that leather to absorb the leather balm we all use to keep it soft and subtle? Should we be treating it every 3 or 6 months instead of once a year?
You don't want to go leather it'll get damage quickly
Me and my wife want that exact Jeep first thing I would put on is snorkel and winch. The new snorkel for the jl are easy install too 😁great looking rubicon
Thanks for watching!
The JL’s a great platform!
Pity that Fiat builds these. I have a '14 2 door and hold my breath every time I start it up.
All valid and useful points for a potential purchaser…Thanks!
not a bad video. I can understand your concerns. I too would be cheezed!
I heard that when you keep taking your roof off and on, the gasket wears out quite quickly and it actually slightly leaks in rain. Has anyone had such an experience?
How about no dead pedal for your left foot?
Michael Chew True! That completely slipped my mind haha good point Man thanks for watching
@@drivenmad2089 I recently rented a JK Wrangler and was surprised it wasn't there.
Ya that's right I noticed that after I got my JL
These are reasonable and good points.. I'm currently looking at getting a 2dr Rubicon
Note Everything mentioned can be fixed in the after market
The jeep dude for the most part yes. But I was pointing out things of how it came from the factory.
Thanks for watching dude!
Yea, but that's not the point. You are already paying premium prices.
Is it true that only jeeps with the upgraded sound system have the speaker in the trunk like that?
Nice Jeep. The speaker on the floor is silly.
Yeah, I decided against the upgraded audio system just for that very silly reason. In any case, I prefer enjoying a sub-woofer effect in my home theater.
Joe Santos it is silly. Thanks for watching man!
Auto stop-start in a manual?
45k holy shit. i ordered mine back in 2012 rubi when the 3.6 came out and it was only 30k its gone up 15k
Fiat made $700 million extra to invest in Toledo facilities.
For the subwoofer, you could use (gently, and low psi) compressed air. Not a perfect idea, but under the circumstances...
Or play thumping bass and vacuum as the dirt bounces.
Oh how I miss the days of 25 gallon gas tanks
My CJ7 had an enlarged tank but lots of people used Gerry cans did added fuel.
Concerning dirt in speaker, I wonder if those canned air products would work?
1 star crash rating should be on your list
that was the 2018 because it didn't have lane monitoring and if you hit someone with the jeep there was a high chance they got hurt. oh and no side curtain air bags. that was a European safety rating not American. most American made cars get crappy safety rating because they are too heavy and cause too much damage to other cars when you hit them.
They get a 2.5 in the states, which is the middle of the pack. One factor for the low rating in Europe is the body on frame construction and steel bumpers. Unibody construction is easier to engineer crumple zones. If European standards were applied to the Wrangler they would lose their off road capability.
@@Lee-gc2mq The EU also mandates pedestrian "crumple zones". Something most Americans would consider ridiculous, especially on a vehicle designed for off road.
My 2015 JKU has side airbags. They are located in the back rests of the front seats. I believe the sensor is in the B pillar. One just needs to be aware when fitting aftermarket seat covers.
Quit being a pussy Stanley
I agree with you. We are waiting for our 2021 Jeep Rubicon 4 door to come in. It's due to arrive at the dealership today. I'm praying its satisfactory and I am completely in agreement about the seat adjustment, the speaker is absolutely in the wrong place, let alone cant ge cleaned and the inside arm rests should ne made of the same quality as other things in jeep. The fake air vents is a let down.
All of your gripes are legitimate complaints, for a new vehicle at that price.
That was actually really helpful. I didnt know the sub was on the floor for the premium audio, might skip that and just upgrade the stock speakers as I see fit in a Willys.
Ohio Diesel Products...they make seat lift kits. Have 2 in my JKRR and one in the girlfriend's JK Winter.
Regarding the stop/start. I feel like if you don't press the brake hard it won't activate.
Cory Sallee it would if I had an automatic but with the manual my foot can be off the brake completely and it’ll still turn off. Thanks for watching man!
I see your jeep on the road all the time in SB
What I saw that I didn't like is that the speaker in the back is where my JK Rubicon compartment is. Which is where I keep my Smitybilt air compressor and a few tools and tow rope. On mine, the subwoofer is on the side. Just my opinion.
Nothing minor or “nit-picky” about getting a seat adjusted correctly for your comfort and correct driving position!
I have the 20 gal tank on my JLU. Love it.
You describe your complaints as "very nitpicky". I agree with you! Please don't feel like you have to "come up with something" to make a video about. Totally unnecessary.
C S Appreciate the feedback man. Thanks for watching
Paul von Helger true but that’s kinda hard to do when the JL hasn’t been out for very long haha
I love Jeeps, start stop for a Jeep, bad idea, rear subwoofer on the floor facing up, very bad idea. Thanks for the video!
No problem dude! Thanks for watching!
It sounds like you should have bought a compact sport car.
User Name Right, because pointing out things I dislike is totally the same as saying “I hate this Jeep and I wish I never bought it”. I stated in the video that I love the Jeep haha
One thing on my JL that is slightly irritating is shifting in to first or third its easy to activate the hazards without knowing it