I think 35' is going to be the highest optimal level for the vast majority of jeep owners for a real all-rounder tire to take 99% of trails while still remaining viable on-road. 37s and 40s I feel are for hardcore enthusiasts. Nothing wrong with that, but I think the majority of jeep owners don't really need anything higher than a 35'
I'm running 38" Nitto Trail Grapplers on my 2019 manual Rubicon. I have a 2" lift and regeared to 4:88. Chromolly axel splines as well as trusses. I live in Colorado so the rocks here require some clearance. I'm very happy with my set up.
Been wanting a Jeep for years and finally got one this past September!! I’ve been reading and researching and I think a 2” spring lift and true 33” tires are the perfect match! Cooper STT Pro as well they are amazing tires
I've done a 2.5" lift and true 33"s on my Aus spec JL Rubicon and it works great but be aware there was a noticeable drop in torque over the stock 255 / 75 /R17's and fuel consumption has been increased about 30%. If you get wheels have a look at the Icons with the innerlock system they're amazing, I ran all day yesterday at 10PSI.
I’ve been happy with my 285/75r17s on my 16 manual Rubi. If I ever regear I might go up to 37s, but for now these seem to be the ideal all around tire size for 4:10s and a stick for a Jeep that has to daily.
Used to run the trails with a guy who had a JLU on 37s. Stock sport with a 2" spacer lift. He took the fenders off completely and put stubby bumpers on it to give clearance. Somehow that thing did just fine. His problem was constant water crossings with that 3.6 liter. The aluminum couldn't handle constantly heating up and flash cooling. Cracked the block twice. Insurance covered it the first time. Crazy that the engine went before axle and suspension parts.
Damn!!! may i ask what year? i guess my 35’s will do with my 3.5 lift. before jeep i used to own a buick encore…omg the transmission issues were TERRIBLE!! jeep has treated me well. i had a patriot before i got my wrangler (i still daydream about the patriot & the stock upgraded sound system ) but the wrangler definitely is something i can go completely off road with no regrets 🎉😂
I'm running 35x12.5x17 on my 2022 JT max tow 4.10:1. Added Mopar lift, new HD track bar and Fox steering stabilizer. I recalibrated the speedo and shift points and rides great looks badass and see 8th gear every day. I think 37s look great but don't want to regear and still want some performance.
Will it pull 8th on 80mph+ freeway with a headwind, or is starting to get really picky on where it grabs 8th? I'm thinking I90 across South Dakota. Always a cross/ headwind headed west and lucky to get 14mpg in a stock Wrangler in those conditions.
@@scootypuffjr. I haven't been in those identical conditions, and usually don't drive faster than 75. That being said when I do hit 75 shes in 8th most of the time.
Looking at a Gladiator. This is a perfect video. I have to travel for work but also want to do light trails on the weekends with the wife to take pictures with our drones. 33s seem like they give me the best balance since I'm on road way more than off.
100% agreed! I have the same on my 22 gladiator rubicon (except mickey Thomson baja boss at's) and it just looks right...like it should've from the factory
I found that my 38” Nitto Ridge Grapplers were the sweet spot on my Gladiator Rubicon with 3.5” Clayton Overland lift kit. Gives me about an inch or two clearance on 7 ft garage limits. So home and airport garages are still doable. I’d live 40’s, but would no longer fit in garages without dumping air pressure.
Is it lifted and do you know the gear ratio? From the factory mine didn't have a great turning radius because of the length compared to my 04 TJ Wrangler I traded. I would have kept my Wrangler but the frame rusted and broke in a few places but I'm not looking back because of the bed function. I have 37's and a lift but my turning radius hasn't changed. I hope that helps
For me, it's getting a breakover angle on the long gladiator wheel base. I was turtling on small whoops. Luckily I was able to back off. But adding 2.5 lift with 37" BFG KO2s on a Gladiator Mojave, I got 28.5° and haven't been stuck since.
I just put on some “Micky Thompson 37’s”…. It was a perfect fit…. Perfect for a picture… My pinky finger was the space available between the tire rubbing along the metal railing on the length of the jeep… To much rubbing between the tire and metal. This was on a 2.5 inch lift…(you will need something higher) I am going to have the metal cut away to prevent the rubbing… I wish I could provide a picture… The tires do look beefy and it is a great look to the 2010 jeep wrangler rubicon….👍👍
I’m running 35 toyo mt open county on my sport jl stock I have a lot of clearance you don’t need any spacer or non modifications you’ll run fine trust me
Great video, guys! Yet one more opinion: The curve of associated expenses really does rise exponentially as tire size increases. 33's or 35's will get you to 90% of the places you want to go, assuming your driving skill rises to the occasion. I run 37's and they are utterly amazing offroad but make most conditions quite easy, maybe too much so? And I have to drive like I'm wearing ballerina slippers on stock axles to avoid breakage. So is the answer 1-tons ($$$$$)? Or smaller tire and try harder? Depends, but either is an equally valid AND ENJOYABLE path.
I’ve tackled some pretty awesome stuff in my JKUR, I’m on 35s with a 3.5” lift and can I keep up with guys on 38s & 40s on what I’m ‘willing’ to tackle. Lol. Seems like going any bigger would only be if I wanted to flirt with body damage. 35s or 37s are great for off-roading and will get you through pretty much everything short of causing body damage out here
Very comprehensive video. I’m new to the Jeep world just got a 23 Gladiator Sport S. Not planning to do much but I think the 33” with the level kit is where I’m heading.
Sounds like a good plan, another option is to throw on a set of flares and you could rock the 37" with that same leveling kit. www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/baja-hd-fender-flares-gladiator-jt-12510-5231
Yea you’re gonna want tires over 34” if you spend more time off than on road. If you’re a commuter and spend at least 70-80% of driving time on the highway, a taller tire will have a detrimental effect on highway and city mileage, not to mention speedometer errors. I recently bought a new 2024 Gladiator Sport S, we bought for our daily driver for my wife and I who are both retired now. So we don’t need to go off road much at all, but like the style, comfort and adventure capabilities we might never need. So the 245/57-17 Bridgestone Dueler tires are fine, very quiet and ride very well, all while returning the best overall mileage and on road traction, especially in heavy rain. That we get often in Central Florida.
@@ianparsons8894 I run 32x11.5r15 with a 2.5 inch lift. I had 33x12.5r15s on it, and I much prefer the narrower, lighter tire. It just handles better and it looks almost identical.
KO2 are notoriously small. A large true to size 35 will look much closer to a 37 KO2. Likewise, a 315 (slightly smaller than a 35) KO2 which already runs small will look much smaller next to a normal or true to size 37. . People should really research the sizes of the specific tire they want to run.
Ran a set of nitto 40x13.5r17 like your blue jk for 8-9 years on the factory Rubicon axles with chromoly rear shafts after bending one and tubed and gusseted front axle from the beginning with 5.38 gears. Love those Nittos but went to procomp this year due to availability
You didn't mention axle ratios as you get to 35" and 37" tires. Also mention the relation to tire outside diameter to wheel diameter. Having more tire to wheel helps until it gets too great then tire/wheel spin contact a t low pressure is a factor in non-fastened whel/tire assemblies.
Great video! I run 35x10.5r tires on my Gladiator Sport S with the stock wheels, stock suspension, and stock fenders and have no clearance issues at all. I’ve been considering bumping up to 37s when these wear out, but I’m not sure if I want the extra MPG loss
In my experience, if you go that big on a sport model, you might find the gearing to be an issue. Just make sure you consider it before making a commitment.
That 40in tire is unique because you cant find that design on the manufacture website, the one in this video has a sidewall that has a sidewall, very aggressive side look
I have a 2012 JKUR and when I put my 37's on I had a 2.5" Rock Krawler lift and it rubbed in the back. I had to cut/trim/hammer the pinch welds and even that wasn't enough to stop from rubbing on the stock bumper. I've put on longer Rock Krawler springs and haven't had any issues yet.
Aren't you forgetting something? Anything above stock will alter the speedometer which will require a new speed gear to keep the speedometer reading correct. Great video, very informative.
Nice video, Rob! I've got a set of Quadratec Hardrock Wheels with LT315/70R-17 BFG KO2's on order from you folks for my 2021 Rubicon Gladiator, can't wait till they are delivered!
Thanks Rob. Qtech has pretty much everything including gear ratio upgrades and one can build a quite capable vehicle with your PA warehouse even for an old fart like me
I think the information at 5:56 is incorrect. A 315/70/R17 would be about 35" diameter, but would be a ~12.5" width, a big difference than the 11-11.5" width stated here. A stock Sport or Willys with stock wheels shouldn't have a problem running a 35/11.50/R17 tire, but as stated, the wider 12.50" wire is likely going to need spacers to avoid rubbing, or at the very least a wider negative offset wheel. I've been researching into this a lot myself since I have a 23' JLU Willys, and I want to keep my stock wheels, but go to 35" tires. I found that 35"x11.50" should be fine, except under a heavy flex there may be some rubbing. I'm personally looking at the Falken Wildpeak AT4W in 35x11.50R17
There is the best 35, 37, 40 as 35-40 good for on uphill, downhill, mountain, mountain road, and mudding. But depond on they can kill yr gas, oil miles, brake pad, and easy make catalogs pipes too heatstroke.
Could you get by with 34-inch tires w/ 16 or 17-inch wheels on a Wrangler Sport or Sport S/Willy's w/o having to re-gear or upgrade any suspension components?
The tire size if often larger than the actual tire dimension. Most brands say 37" tire is actually 361/2. Not many are the actual size. Interco tires are actually larger then the size listed. 38" super swamper is actually 38 and 3/8". Read the fine print.
Might I ask how you recommend tire rotation for the 35" and 37" size tires? [1] A simple front to rear and rear to front move or [2] X the fronts to the rear and a simple rear to front move. Many Thanks!
I have been told that Jeep will not honor their warranty if any tires are larger than stock. My 2020 JT stock is 255-70-18. I have 35-12.5-20’s on it. It rides and drives like a dream with the 2.5 lift. But what about towing ? My Overland has 373 gearing. Am I safe with 3500lbs trailer ?
The difference between 35’s and 37’s is the amount of parts you break. ***void if you drive a pavement princess *** My grand Cherokee has 37’s and my other”jeep” has 42’s For what I do 37’s and larger it’s time to swap in some 1 ton axles.
Running 38s on mine being doing some good rock crawling for a while, moving to "lightweight" 40s Tomorrow. Mine are built though Trussed, C gusset, RCV up front and chromolied rear on 4.88 gears. JL D44s are about 43% stronger than the JK one based on thickness and length. The longer the axle, the stronger it is. But they do have a major weak point = the FAD area. That's why you want to RCVs it with a three piece RCV or get rid of the FAD and get two-piece chromolies.
Good video. I have 33s on 17" wheels on my 2016 Sahara JK. All I have is a teraflex leveling 1.5" leveling kit. It rides really well and I do not off-road much if at all (mall crawler). Can I go up to 35s without any more modifications?
I have a 2017 Rubicon with a 2.5 inch lift. Running -30mm offset wheels and 35" BFG KO2's. I also have Poison Spider aluminium fenders. At full articulation with the steering turned fully to the drivers side, the passenger tire rubs on the Artec inner fender. But that's the only place I have any issues. I want to remove the rear sway bar to see how much more flex I can get. We want to keep the Jeep as low as possible, as we are both getting too old to have to get in and out of a Jeep that is so high off the ground we can't get our leg up that high anymore. I am curious if you changed out the fenders if the 35s would work. You definitely would need spacers or negative offset wheels. But you might be able to make it work. Depends on how much you flex the suspension.
Today I want to go look at some tires from my previous dealer in Hilltop Dodge Jeep ram I got a jeep wrangler on stock. I wanted to get some beefier tires like more meat instead of the original ones I looked at the Falken nitto toyo Bridgestone BF, good rich, TAKT BF, good rich Terrain t/a Mickey Thompson destinations and many more the guy told me that I could fit a 33 inch tire. Originally the stock is like 31 but I wasn’t sure so a 33 inch tire can fit on a jeep wrangler without a lift kit. what brand do you recommend? Like how the mud tires look I need some off-road tires that look similar to that I have the Falken wild peak in mind but I was so indecisive. I was tired of looking at tires, but I don’t want to buy a new set of wheels rims.
@@DoubleZippea NICE! You can fit 35's on a stock JL, they will fit. However, you will the tires rubbing often if you go off-road. 33's will do the trick for you as long as you don't get a bigger rim than what you have now. You don't need a lift and the 33's will give you that look you want. For the money you can never go wrong with BF Goodrich Mud Terrain tires. Personally I would get 33x12.50. You may need wheel spacers so you don't rub at full turn but it depends, you may not also. If you need more info just hit me up and I can help, This is what I do for a living Aaron
Great video! I have a question, if I put the 35' on my stock Rubicon (later I will add 1.5''-2,5''lift) is this going to affect fuel consumption and the onroad performance? does it need re-gearing or any other modification?
If you are looking to actually wheel your JL with 35's you will 100% need to lift it, if you do not want any rubbing. I have 35's on the mopar 2in lift on my JL Rubicon and they just clear at full flex. My buddy tried to run 35's on his JT Gladiator and they rub alot at full flex.
@@crabblike full articulation can be a bit tricky from what I've learned so far. For instance, I have a 4.5 Rock Krawler Pro-X lift on my JT with 39s. With my stock Overland fenders it was limiting my articulation, but I still had alot of articulation. I finally switched out to higher clearance fenders and gained more inches in articulation, but my flex is still limited by the fenders in the front. Also depending on how your lift is setup, your shock length and your bumpstops will play a major part in your articulation. When I go to long arm in the front I will get suspension fine tuned to where everything lines up properly and I'm getting the most articulation possible without over extending anything.
Check your weight of jeep, if your not heavy enough for the tire size, your going to loose traction and is very dangerous, you need to weight to make the foot print traction
I think 35' is going to be the highest optimal level for the vast majority of jeep owners for a real all-rounder tire to take 99% of trails while still remaining viable on-road. 37s and 40s I feel are for hardcore enthusiasts. Nothing wrong with that, but I think the majority of jeep owners don't really need anything higher than a 35'
My thoughts exactly!
Agreed. 37s may be overkill for what I intend to use my Jeep for.
Agree
@@ralph670 Ya'll live in Florida? 🤣
On a 2 door a good driver can do most trails on a 33. Instagram has got everyone wanting bigger tires than they really need.
37 is where it’s at for both looks and capability
No 38s is better
@@tahoecamper5078 38s yea I’m tryna put some on mine
Me too
That’s overkill in my opinion …. and you have to re-gear…
@@hellaacapella 2020 gladiator towmax. 2.5 lift 37” tires 25k miles. No regear.
I'm running 38" Nitto Trail Grapplers on my 2019 manual Rubicon. I have a 2" lift and regeared to 4:88. Chromolly axel splines as well as trusses. I live in Colorado so the rocks here require some clearance. I'm very happy with my set up.
Digging the white wheels. Looks like I remember the 80s.
37if you wanna break those axles. I think 35s are the best overall for everything unless you are heavily modding
That is untrue AFFFF.
Dana 30 will handle a 37 just fine if you dont slam your truck off of rocks to break it.
Been wanting a Jeep for years and finally got one this past September!! I’ve been reading and researching and I think a 2” spring lift and true 33” tires are the perfect match! Cooper STT Pro as well they are amazing tires
I've done a 2.5" lift and true 33"s on my Aus spec JL Rubicon and it works great but be aware there was a noticeable drop in torque over the stock 255 / 75 /R17's and fuel consumption has been increased about 30%.
If you get wheels have a look at the Icons with the innerlock system they're amazing, I ran all day yesterday at 10PSI.
Just bought 35s Mickey Thomson AT for my 2 door Jeep Wrangler, with a teraflex 2.5” lift so stoked to put them on 😂😭🔥🥵🤘🏼
We bought a 2022 jlu with the recon package... 35" tires and 4:56 gears from the factory
I’ve been happy with my 285/75r17s on my 16 manual Rubi. If I ever regear I might go up to 37s, but for now these seem to be the ideal all around tire size for 4:10s and a stick for a Jeep that has to daily.
I snapped a drive shaft with 35s. Good luck going anything bigger than 35s without shelling out upgraded component
Used to run the trails with a guy who had a JLU on 37s. Stock sport with a 2" spacer lift. He took the fenders off completely and put stubby bumpers on it to give clearance. Somehow that thing did just fine. His problem was constant water crossings with that 3.6 liter. The aluminum couldn't handle constantly heating up and flash cooling. Cracked the block twice. Insurance covered it the first time. Crazy that the engine went before axle and suspension parts.
Damn!!! may i ask what year? i guess my 35’s will do with my 3.5 lift.
before jeep i used to own a buick encore…omg the transmission issues were TERRIBLE!! jeep has treated me well. i had a patriot before i got my wrangler (i still daydream about the patriot & the stock upgraded sound system ) but the wrangler definitely is something i can go completely off road with no regrets 🎉😂
@@SlumpTia 2019 I think. That soft top fit on my wife's 2020, but it was probably a year older.
I'm running 35x12.5x17 on my 2022 JT max tow 4.10:1. Added Mopar lift, new HD track bar and Fox steering stabilizer. I recalibrated the speedo and shift points and rides great looks badass and see 8th gear every day. I think 37s look great but don't want to regear and still want some performance.
Will it pull 8th on 80mph+ freeway with a headwind, or is starting to get really picky on where it grabs 8th? I'm thinking I90 across South Dakota. Always a cross/ headwind headed west and lucky to get 14mpg in a stock Wrangler in those conditions.
@@scootypuffjr. I haven't been in those identical conditions, and usually don't drive faster than 75. That being said when I do hit 75 shes in 8th most of the time.
From my experience with JTs I think the sweet spot is 37 & a 3.5 lift. I’m running 39s & 4.5 lift and it’s a little sweeter.🙂
Looking at a Gladiator. This is a perfect video. I have to travel for work but also want to do light trails on the weekends with the wife to take pictures with our drones. 33s seem like they give me the best balance since I'm on road way more than off.
We have 2 JKs on 35" BFG KM3, I would go for 33" next time. The big tires make the Jeep slower, more thirsty and handle worse.
Did you re gear it? That would be like night and day.
You have to regear for bigger tires.
@@singletrackmarc819 Still will not change the bad brakes and handling. It might accelerate better, yes.
I run 35s with 410 on my rubicon no issues
I have 35s on my tj either 5.13s and it has more get up then it did with factory tires and gears
I chose 35 inch BFG KO2s with a 2 inch mopar lift. I dont have to regear my diffs and the gladiator rubicon works well for me.
100% agreed! I have the same on my 22 gladiator rubicon (except mickey Thomson baja boss at's) and it just looks right...like it should've from the factory
Just bought my 1st Jeep YJ in NJ, drove it straight to Tx. 💪❤️🇵🇷🔥💯
I found that my 38” Nitto Ridge Grapplers were the sweet spot on my Gladiator Rubicon with 3.5” Clayton Overland lift kit. Gives me about an inch or two clearance on 7 ft garage limits. So home and airport garages are still doable. I’d live 40’s, but would no longer fit in garages without dumping air pressure.
Upgrading your gears may be necessary depending on tire size.
Yes, we agree 100%
@@Quadratect what size should you regear? have heard 33s and below you don't, 37s and up you do, but 35s seem to be a Grey area.
I'm at 40 on a jt rubi. Stock gears with a tazer mini getting 15mpg. I've seen 8th gear here and there lol
I just bought a lifted jeep gladiator with 37's and the turn radius is terrible, been thinking about going to 33's or 35's video helped alot, thanks
Is it lifted and do you know the gear ratio? From the factory mine didn't have a great turning radius because of the length compared to my 04 TJ Wrangler I traded. I would have kept my Wrangler but the frame rusted and broke in a few places but I'm not looking back because of the bed function.
I have 37's and a lift but my turning radius hasn't changed. I hope that helps
For me, it's getting a breakover angle on the long gladiator wheel base. I was turtling on small whoops. Luckily I was able to back off. But adding 2.5 lift with 37" BFG KO2s on a Gladiator Mojave, I got 28.5° and haven't been stuck since.
I just put on some “Micky Thompson 37’s”…. It was a perfect fit…. Perfect for a picture…
My pinky finger was the space available between the tire rubbing along the metal railing on the length of the jeep…
To much rubbing between the tire and metal.
This was on a 2.5 inch lift…(you will need something higher)
I am going to have the metal cut away to prevent the rubbing…
I wish I could provide a picture…
The tires do look beefy and it is a great look to the 2010 jeep wrangler rubicon….👍👍
Keep in mind. Every brands tire sizes are different than each brand. For example, BfG tires run small, nittos run true to size, etc.
Great point! It would be impossible to cover every single specific tire, but we hope this is a great starting point to pick out a tire size.
Great job examples for new people to Jeepers 😎👍
I’m running 35 toyo mt open county on my sport jl stock I have a lot of clearance you don’t need any spacer or non modifications you’ll run fine trust me
Only way you can run 35's with no lift is not never take it any where that you need anywhere close to full flex. They will 100% rub
Not for a rubicon though, right?
Never felt the need for going bigger than my stock tires on my 2021 Rubicon.
Can't all be winners lol, jk
Lol... What a LOSER 😂
Great video, guys! Yet one more opinion:
The curve of associated expenses really does rise exponentially as tire size increases. 33's or 35's will get you to 90% of the places you want to go, assuming your driving skill rises to the occasion. I run 37's and they are utterly amazing offroad but make most conditions quite easy, maybe too much so? And I have to drive like I'm wearing ballerina slippers on stock axles to avoid breakage. So is the answer 1-tons ($$$$$)? Or smaller tire and try harder? Depends, but either is an equally valid AND ENJOYABLE path.
I’ve tackled some pretty awesome stuff in my JKUR, I’m on 35s with a 3.5” lift and can I keep up with guys on 38s & 40s on what I’m ‘willing’ to tackle. Lol. Seems like going any bigger would only be if I wanted to flirt with body damage. 35s or 37s are great for off-roading and will get you through pretty much everything short of causing body damage out here
Very comprehensive video. I’m new to the Jeep world just got a 23 Gladiator Sport S. Not planning to do much but I think the 33” with the level kit is where I’m heading.
Sounds like a good plan, another option is to throw on a set of flares and you could rock the 37" with that same leveling kit. www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/baja-hd-fender-flares-gladiator-jt-12510-5231
Yea you’re gonna want tires over 34” if you spend more time off than on road. If you’re a commuter and spend at least 70-80% of driving time on the highway, a taller tire will have a detrimental effect on highway and city mileage, not to mention speedometer errors. I recently bought a new 2024 Gladiator Sport S, we bought for our daily driver for my wife and I who are both retired now. So we don’t need to go off road much at all, but like the style, comfort and adventure capabilities we might never need. So the 245/57-17 Bridgestone Dueler tires are fine, very quiet and ride very well, all while returning the best overall mileage and on road traction, especially in heavy rain. That we get often in Central Florida.
Am I the only one happy with 32s? Good fuel economy and I am doing 99.9% of what other jeeps doo
I mean, I see a lot of 'em out there so I think you're in good company
What size - 235/85R16, 235/80R17 or 255/75R17?
235s seem perfect for 2 door base models without much weight
@@ianparsons8894 I run 32x11.5r15 with a 2.5 inch lift. I had 33x12.5r15s on it, and I much prefer the narrower, lighter tire. It just handles better and it looks almost identical.
@@qm8936 Is that on a TJ?
I showed up 3 wranglers on 33s with street tires not long ago lol one even flipped over
KO2 are notoriously small. A large true to size 35 will look much closer to a 37 KO2. Likewise, a 315 (slightly smaller than a 35) KO2 which already runs small will look much smaller next to a normal or true to size 37.
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People should really research the sizes of the specific tire they want to run.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Not many people even realize not all tires are exactly the same size even if they say they are.
Ran a set of nitto 40x13.5r17 like your blue jk for 8-9 years on the factory Rubicon axles with chromoly rear shafts after bending one and tubed and gusseted front axle from the beginning with 5.38 gears. Love those Nittos but went to procomp this year due to availability
You didn't mention axle ratios as you get to 35" and 37" tires. Also mention the relation to tire outside diameter to wheel diameter. Having more tire to wheel helps until it gets too great then tire/wheel spin contact a t low pressure is a factor in non-fastened whel/tire assemblies.
Can you make video on different size of wheels as well how much difference they are with their sizes ? Thanks
Great video! I run 35x10.5r tires on my Gladiator Sport S with the stock wheels, stock suspension, and stock fenders and have no clearance issues at all. I’ve been considering bumping up to 37s when these wear out, but I’m not sure if I want the extra MPG loss
In my experience, if you go that big on a sport model, you might find the gearing to be an issue. Just make sure you consider it before making a commitment.
@Koulnistwo maybe, but not one
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I wonder where you got the idea for this video??? Awesome content, Godspeed!
I like the 40s out of all of them
That 40in tire is unique because you cant find that design on the manufacture website, the one in this video has a sidewall that has a sidewall, very aggressive side look
I have a 2012 JKUR and when I put my 37's on I had a 2.5" Rock Krawler lift and it rubbed in the back. I had to cut/trim/hammer the pinch welds and even that wasn't enough to stop from rubbing on the stock bumper. I've put on longer Rock Krawler springs and haven't had any issues yet.
I remember back in the day 35’s were the big dogs ish, now it’s as if they are like a 31” tire lol.
I thinking about 33 MTs. Just need them to perform well in snow and not overly loud on the payment.
2021 Rubi w da 33s LT285/70R17 doin just fine.
Aren't you forgetting something? Anything above stock will alter the speedometer which will require a new speed gear to keep the speedometer reading correct. Great video, very informative.
Great point!
It can be recalibrated electronically. No gear required.
@Jeff Wish Thank you. Your response is appreciated.
All you need to do is adjust you computer for the new tire size. I put 35s on and used a procal chip to make the changes
Thanks for the video. If I may ask could you in an upcoming video talk about portal axels?
Thanks again, 👏👏🙂🙂
Im useing Ko 315/16 on my Sport 6 speed, great on the hiway but you can forget about ever useing 6th gear, with 2.53 gears Ill be going to a 33 next
TJ 33’s 4.56 gears 4.0 manual. Great overall. I am not a rock beater tho.
Nice video, Rob! I've got a set of Quadratec Hardrock Wheels with LT315/70R-17 BFG KO2's on order from you folks for my 2021 Rubicon Gladiator, can't wait till they are delivered!
Thanks! Those will look great on your Gladiator!
Dude nailed content within the intro others couldn explain in whole videos :) love it !
We are here to help! thanks for the comment.
The best review I’ve seen for this comparison!!! Thank you!
I did 20 inch rims with 33 mud graps, I'm thinking about doing a 2" lift with 35 mud graps next
Nice!
Your missing two of the best! 38x12.50R17 Nitto Ridge Grappler and 38x13.50r17 Trail Grappler🤘🏼
Trying to keep it to the common sizes, but the 38” nittos are great tires.
I have a 21 Gladiator with 38 Milestar and 17 Dirt Life road kills im downsizing to 35 on 20s.
I need to see more of that 2 door with 37s and square headlights !!!
32”s are now all the rage - good terrain, no lift needed and way cheaper than 33’s and 35s.
When you jump to 37s you should be upgrading the axles.
Agreed. If you are wheeling, likely you’ll be upgrading them wether you want to or not.
@@Quadratec and 38, 39?
Thanks Rob. Qtech has pretty much everything including gear ratio upgrades and one can build a quite capable vehicle with your PA warehouse even for an old fart like me
I think the information at 5:56 is incorrect. A 315/70/R17 would be about 35" diameter, but would be a ~12.5" width, a big difference than the 11-11.5" width stated here. A stock Sport or Willys with stock wheels shouldn't have a problem running a 35/11.50/R17 tire, but as stated, the wider 12.50" wire is likely going to need spacers to avoid rubbing, or at the very least a wider negative offset wheel. I've been researching into this a lot myself since I have a 23' JLU Willys, and I want to keep my stock wheels, but go to 35" tires. I found that 35"x11.50" should be fine, except under a heavy flex there may be some rubbing. I'm personally looking at the Falken Wildpeak AT4W in 35x11.50R17
I just bought a 2020 sport came with Mickey Thompson 35 x 12 .5 on 17 inch rims so far I have no rubbing issues whatsoever and rides pretty nice
Thanks for the video. Can we use larger than 17" wheels?
38s on a 18" wheel is the best overall combo.
Nope, 17’s have far more wheel and tire options. Less weight.
There is the best 35, 37, 40 as 35-40 good for on uphill, downhill, mountain, mountain road, and mudding. But depond on they can kill yr gas, oil miles, brake pad, and easy make catalogs pipes too heatstroke.
I wish they were all non rubicons because they already have higher fenders
Rob, great video! Rob, what bumper does the 2 door gray rubicon have on it?
I want to know more about that green Rubicon center caps
How about a little more info on wheel offset?
Could you get by with 34-inch tires w/ 16 or 17-inch wheels on a Wrangler Sport or Sport S/Willy's w/o having to re-gear or upgrade any suspension components?
The tire size if often larger than the actual tire dimension. Most brands say 37" tire is actually 361/2. Not many are the actual size. Interco tires are actually larger then the size listed. 38" super swamper is actually 38 and 3/8". Read the fine print.
Might I ask how you recommend tire rotation for the 35" and 37" size tires? [1] A simple front to rear and rear to front move or [2] X the fronts to the rear and a simple rear to front move. Many Thanks!
Corner to corner. Left front to right rear and vice versa
This is just the video I have been looking for. Thanks for advice 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍👍
Great Job. Love the new JL that had the old YJ grille.
Thanks 👍
12:23 cool shot bro 😎
What about the 16inch tire and wheel. I'VE got a 2013 jeep wrangler sport 4x4 and I'm going to put a 285 70 16 on it in a little while down the road.
You left out the best size. True 32
Who does that work for the average person? Where do you usually take your jeep for this change?
What do you think about 18" rims
Metric tire sizing is just unnecessarily complicated.
It really is. Most of the 33s in metric for me are closer to 32s that are an inch thinner than the American made 33-12.50r17
Amazing how much power you lose going up in tire. You can only regear so much.
I have been told that Jeep will not honor their warranty if any tires are larger than stock. My 2020 JT stock is 255-70-18. I have 35-12.5-20’s on it. It rides and drives like a dream with the 2.5 lift. But what about towing ? My Overland has 373 gearing. Am I safe with 3500lbs trailer ?
I heard a lift voids warranty as well
The difference between 35’s and 37’s is the amount of parts you break. ***void if you drive a pavement princess ***
My grand Cherokee has 37’s and my other”jeep” has 42’s For what I do 37’s and larger it’s time to swap in some 1 ton axles.
I have a 20 Prius. How big can I go without cutting fenders and re-gearing?
Any one on how the Dana 44 will hold up? If you realy take it hard core, it might fall appart. Road warrior, limitless
Running 38s on mine being doing some good rock crawling for a while, moving to "lightweight" 40s Tomorrow. Mine are built though Trussed, C gusset, RCV up front and chromolied rear on 4.88 gears. JL D44s are about 43% stronger than the JK one based on thickness and length. The longer the axle, the stronger it is. But they do have a major weak point = the FAD area. That's why you want to RCVs it with a three piece RCV or get rid of the FAD and get two-piece chromolies.
31 is better for my YJ, not much loss of torque, I took off the 35"
It came with..Too top heavy..
35s are the best . And if they are from a 395 Jeep that’s perfection.
👰 you can try use .. giant tires dump truck
Good video.
I have 33s on 17" wheels on my 2016 Sahara JK. All I have is a teraflex leveling 1.5" leveling kit. It rides really well and I do not off-road much if at all (mall crawler). Can I go up to 35s without any more modifications?
I have 33’s on my 2008 Sahara Unlimited, but with 35’s there wasn’t room and would have too much tire rub.
I run 35x12.5 on my '13 wrangler. With a 3" teraflex lift. You need a lift to run 35s properly.
@@KwanzaaBot1966 Correct. Mine is still stock.
I have a 2017 Rubicon with a 2.5 inch lift.
Running -30mm offset wheels and 35" BFG KO2's. I also have Poison Spider aluminium fenders. At full articulation with the steering turned fully to the drivers side, the passenger tire rubs on the Artec inner fender. But that's the only place I have any issues.
I want to remove the rear sway bar to see how much more flex I can get.
We want to keep the Jeep as low as possible, as we are both getting too old to have to get in and out of a Jeep that is so high off the ground we can't get our leg up that high anymore.
I am curious if you changed out the fenders if the 35s would work. You definitely would need spacers or negative offset wheels.
But you might be able to make it work.
Depends on how much you flex the suspension.
You will need to regear too.
What are those blue rims on the 40? Love ‘em!
Today I want to go look at some tires from my previous dealer in Hilltop Dodge Jeep ram I got a jeep wrangler on stock. I wanted to get some beefier tires like more meat instead of the original ones I looked at the Falken nitto toyo Bridgestone BF, good rich, TAKT BF, good rich Terrain t/a Mickey Thompson destinations and many more the guy told me that I could fit a 33 inch tire. Originally the stock is like 31 but I wasn’t sure so a 33 inch tire can fit on a jeep wrangler without a lift kit. what brand do you recommend? Like how the mud tires look I need some off-road tires that look similar to that I have the Falken wild peak in mind but I was so indecisive. I was tired of looking at tires, but I don’t want to buy a new set of wheels rims.
Stephanie do you have JL?
Yes
@@DoubleZippea NICE! You can fit 35's on a stock JL, they will fit. However, you will the tires rubbing often if you go off-road.
33's will do the trick for you as long as you don't get a bigger rim than what you have now. You don't need a lift and the 33's will give you that look you want.
For the money you can never go wrong with BF Goodrich Mud Terrain tires. Personally I would get 33x12.50.
You may need wheel spacers so you don't rub at full turn but it depends, you may not also.
If you need more info just hit me up and I can help, This is what I do for a living
Aaron
Thank you so much 😊
@@DoubleZippea Yeah anytime. Always here to help just ask away.
Aaron
great video you helped me undertstand
Glad it helped!
Hey!!! Second from the right. What rim is that with the snazzberry trim? Link please :)
What winch bumper is that on the front of the Blue Wrangler on 40's...??
Great video! I have a question, if I put the 35' on my stock Rubicon (later I will add 1.5''-2,5''lift) is this going to affect fuel consumption and the onroad performance? does it need re-gearing or any other modification?
33’s for me,
Great information. I’d like to see something on a Rubicon (JT) running 35’s and clearance during full articulation.
If you are looking to actually wheel your JL with 35's you will 100% need to lift it, if you do not want any rubbing. I have 35's on the mopar 2in lift on my JL Rubicon and they just clear at full flex. My buddy tried to run 35's on his JT Gladiator and they rub alot at full flex.
@@JJ-yy4yy good to know. Mods that aren’t fully usable are meaningless to me. Thanks.
A JT with 35s is going to need atleast 2.5 lift to have descent articulation.
@@TheHitSquadOffroad if it can’t fully articulate I see no point in doing it.
@@crabblike full articulation can be a bit tricky from what I've learned so far. For instance, I have a 4.5 Rock Krawler Pro-X lift on my JT with 39s. With my stock Overland fenders it was limiting my articulation, but I still had alot of articulation. I finally switched out to higher clearance fenders and gained more inches in articulation, but my flex is still limited by the fenders in the front. Also depending on how your lift is setup, your shock length and your bumpstops will play a major part in your articulation. When I go to long arm in the front I will get suspension fine tuned to where everything lines up properly and I'm getting the most articulation possible without over extending anything.
How would these tire affect the engine and the gas mileage?
Would really suggest regear at 37s
It's always a good idea, but depending on your gears from the factory you don't HAVE to.
33 ideal for a daily driver. 35 and up should Re gear, you're diff's.
What kind of bumper is on the Jeep with the 37s
My jeeps already have horrible gas mileage in nyc. Adding bigger tires is only going to make my gas mileage even worst.
Check your weight of jeep, if your not heavy enough for the tire size, your going to loose traction and is very dangerous, you need to weight to make the foot print traction