Trinity 4: Toward Trinitarian Thinking in the Old Testament - Jiri Moskala, Th.D., Ph.D.
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Thanks for the presentation! A lot of great material here.
Here is the link to Jiri Moskala's "Toward Trinitarian Thinking
in the Hebrew Scriptures"pdf -as regarding to this video lecture:
www.atsjats.org/publication/view/378
+Charles Placide __ Streams of Light Hi there. Thank you for taking the time to explain this subject. which is much needed.
Can you please explain in detail what you mean by "person" my understanding is a person is a human being. If you are saying personality to mean person, then this is not a correct definition of person.
Doesn't personality describe the character of a being?
A person means human being.
Definition of person in English:
noun (plural people or persons)
1A human being regarded as an individual. Ref: Oxford Dictionary
Please can you explain your use of "Person"
Many thanks
+Charles Placide __ Streams of Light Thank you
I have read his "scholarly" article and it is not so scholarly, in that he just inserted his trinitarian view point into this article...very few biblical evidences to support his views. So SDA ...oops SAD indeed!!
NewWorldOrder Revealed person is not adequate to describe God. In this sense it is meant to imply individuality and distinctness. These are not different manifestations of the same being, but three distinct beings who are One.
This was really hard to listen to for multiple reasons.
, THE BIBLE NEVER SHOWS ANY PERSON REPEATING A SINNERS PRAYER, , , WE CAN LEAVE THE SUBJECT OF THE TRINITY OUT OF IT AND JUST ASK, what MUST I DO TO BE SAVED? THE JAILER IN ACTS 16;23-33 ITS RIGHT THERE IN THE BIBLE TO SEE, PAUL AND SILUS ANSWERED : BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THOU SHALT BE SAVED, BELIEVING ALONE T DOES NOT SAVE, THE NEXT 2 VERSES DEMONSTRATE WHAT SAVING FAITH DOES: AND THEY SPAKE UNTO HIM THE WORD OF THE LORD, AND TO ALL THAT WERE IN HIS HOUSE, AND HE TOOK THEM THE SAME HOUR OF THE NIGHT, AND WASHED THEIR STRIPES, (AND WAS BAPTIZED, ACTS 2;38) HE AND ALL HIS STRAIGHTWAY. WE CAN READ IN THE BIBLE, THAT PAUL NEVER TOLD THE JAILOR THE HE NEEDED TO ACCEPT OR RECIEVE THE LORD AS A PERSONAL SAVIOR, HE NEVER HAD HIM REPEAT THE SINNERS PRAYER FOUND IN EVERY TRINITARIAN CHICK PUBLICATIANS TRACT. ACTS 2;38 DOESNT ONLY APPEAR IN ACTS 2;38 ITS ALL OVER , EVERY PERSON CONVERTED AND WHO BECAME A "CHRISTIAN"ACTS 11;26 WAS BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST , IN ACTS 22;16 PAUL RECOUNTS HIS OWN CONVERSION ACCORDING TO ACTS 2;38 IN HIS OWN WORDS; ROMANS 6;1-6 EPHESIANS 4;3-6 BUT, THAT SAID, HOW MANY FOLKS CLAIMING THE TRINITY WILL ACTUALY OPEN THE BIBLE AND READ THIS FOR THEMSELVES? NOT MANY, A VAST MAJORITY ARE FABRICATING A COMEBACK INSTEAD, NOT REALIZING ITS GODS WORD, AND THEREFORE GOD HIMSELF THEY ARE FIGHTING, WILL YOU DEAR READER BE BOLD ENOUPH TO CHECK UP ON THIS AND SEE IF IT IS SO? GOOGLE EVERY BAPTIZM IN THE BIBLE NOBODY IS EVER BAPTIZED IN 3 ANYTHING AS IN MATHEW 28;19 AM I AGAINST 28;19? NO! JESUS IS THE FATHER ISAIAH 9;6 HE IS THE SON, ISAIAH 9;6 HE IS "THE MIGHTY GOD" ISAIAH 9;6 FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES, NOT NAMES AND MATHEW 28;19 READS BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME (SINGULAR) JAMES 2;19 SAYS THOU BELIEVEST THERE IS ONE GOD, THOU DOEST WELL, THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, AND TREMBLE ROMANS 6;1-6 PROVES THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT IS WRITTEN TO AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE (PST TENSE) ALREADY BEEN BAPTIZED, UNDER 2 OR 3 WITNESESS, EVERY WORD SHALL BE ESTABLISHED, GALATIANS 3;26-27 READ THUS:FOR YOU ARE ALL THE CHILDREN OF GOD BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. IS IT ONLY BY THAT FAITH? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. THE VERY NEXT VERSE READS:FOR AS MANY OF YOU AS HAVE BEEN (PAST TENSE) BAPTIZED (PST TENSE) INTO CHRIST HAVE PUT ON CHRIST. I REPEAT THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT (THATS AFTER THE RESURECTION) IS WRITTEN SPECIFICLY AND DIRECTLY TO THOSE, ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED AS IN ACTS 2;38 HOW MUCH OF ME, MYSELF HAVE I JUST POSTED? OR DID I NOT PRESENT ONLY BIBLE SCRIPTURE? IN CONCLUSION, I MENTIONED THAT FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES NOT NAMES THATS WHY, SHOCKER, YOU WONT FIND THE APOSTLES TO WHOM MAT 28;19 WAS BEING SPOKEN TO BY JESUS EVER, AND NEVER BAPTIZED ANYONE IN 3 ANYTHING , DO THE APOSTLES SOUND LIKE TRINITARIANS TO YOU? WERE THEY BAFOONS WHO DISOBEYED GOD, WHO IS JESUS, AND POOR OL GOD WAS JUST HELPLESS TO STOP ALL THIS? PICTURE IT: OH NO YOU STUPID APOSTLES! WHY ARENT YOU TEACHING THEM THE SINNERS PRAYER? AND YOU FORGOT TO TELL THEM IM ONLY A SECOND PERSON IN A TRINITY! (... CRICKETS CHIRPING)
Let Us: the best explanation is that God Spoke to His Son Such as Gen 1:26 (Ellen White confirms) or to his heavenly Court (Ellen White comments that angels went down to Babel and confused the languages. 0 arguments to reject this interpretation besides the expositors opinion, but not a single text.
This video proves that God the Father and God the Son make up the Godhead. References to God’s Spirit as the 3rd person must be read into the verses. Example: If I say my Spirit was sad doesn’t automatically make me 2 separate people.
Just read John 17.3
, THE BIBLE NEVER SHOWS ANY PERSON REPEATING A SINNERS PRAYER, , , WE CAN LEAVE THE SUBJECT OF THE TRINITY OUT OF IT AND JUST ASK, what MUST I DO TO BE SAVED? THE JAILER IN ACTS 16;23-33 ITS RIGHT THERE IN THE BIBLE TO SEE, PAUL AND SILUS ANSWERED : BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THOU SHALT BE SAVED, BELIEVING ALONE T DOES NOT SAVE, THE NEXT 2 VERSES DEMONSTRATE WHAT SAVING FAITH DOES: AND THEY SPAKE UNTO HIM THE WORD OF THE LORD, AND TO ALL THAT WERE IN HIS HOUSE, AND HE TOOK THEM THE SAME HOUR OF THE NIGHT, AND WASHED THEIR STRIPES, (AND WAS BAPTIZED, ACTS 2;38) HE AND ALL HIS STRAIGHTWAY. WE CAN READ IN THE BIBLE, THAT PAUL NEVER TOLD THE JAILOR THE HE NEEDED TO ACCEPT OR RECIEVE THE LORD AS A PERSONAL SAVIOR, HE NEVER HAD HIM REPEAT THE SINNERS PRAYER FOUND IN EVERY TRINITARIAN CHICK PUBLICATIANS TRACT. ACTS 2;38 DOESNT ONLY APPEAR IN ACTS 2;38 ITS ALL OVER , EVERY PERSON CONVERTED AND WHO BECAME A "CHRISTIAN"ACTS 11;26 WAS BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST , IN ACTS 22;16 PAUL RECOUNTS HIS OWN CONVERSION ACCORDING TO ACTS 2;38 IN HIS OWN WORDS; ROMANS 6;1-6 EPHESIANS 4;3-6 BUT, THAT SAID, HOW MANY FOLKS CLAIMING THE TRINITY WILL ACTUALY OPEN THE BIBLE AND READ THIS FOR THEMSELVES? NOT MANY, A VAST MAJORITY ARE FABRICATING A COMEBACK INSTEAD, NOT REALIZING ITS GODS WORD, AND THEREFORE GOD HIMSELF THEY ARE FIGHTING, WILL YOU DEAR READER BE BOLD ENOUPH TO CHECK UP ON THIS AND SEE IF IT IS SO? GOOGLE EVERY BAPTIZM IN THE BIBLE NOBODY IS EVER BAPTIZED IN 3 ANYTHING AS IN MATHEW 28;19 AM I AGAINST 28;19? NO! JESUS IS THE FATHER ISAIAH 9;6 HE IS THE SON, ISAIAH 9;6 HE IS "THE MIGHTY GOD" ISAIAH 9;6 FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES, NOT NAMES AND MATHEW 28;19 READS BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME (SINGULAR) JAMES 2;19 SAYS THOU BELIEVEST THERE IS ONE GOD, THOU DOEST WELL, THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, AND TREMBLE ROMANS 6;1-6 PROVES THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT IS WRITTEN TO AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE (PST TENSE) ALREADY BEEN BAPTIZED, UNDER 2 OR 3 WITNESESS, EVERY WORD SHALL BE ESTABLISHED, GALATIANS 3;26-27 READ THUS:FOR YOU ARE ALL THE CHILDREN OF GOD BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. IS IT ONLY BY THAT FAITH? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. THE VERY NEXT VERSE READS:FOR AS MANY OF YOU AS HAVE BEEN (PAST TENSE) BAPTIZED (PST TENSE) INTO CHRIST HAVE PUT ON CHRIST. I REPEAT THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT (THATS AFTER THE RESURECTION) IS WRITTEN SPECIFICLY AND DIRECTLY TO THOSE, ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED AS IN ACTS 2;38 HOW MUCH OF ME, MYSELF HAVE I JUST POSTED? OR DID I NOT PRESENT ONLY BIBLE SCRIPTURE? IN CONCLUSION, I MENTIONED THAT FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES NOT NAMES THATS WHY, SHOCKER, YOU WONT FIND THE APOSTLES TO WHOM MAT 28;19 WAS BEING SPOKEN TO BY JESUS EVER, AND NEVER BAPTIZED ANYONE IN 3 ANYTHING , DO THE APOSTLES SOUND LIKE TRINITARIANS TO YOU? WERE THEY BAFOONS WHO DISOBEYED GOD, WHO IS JESUS, AND POOR OL GOD WAS JUST HELPLESS TO STOP ALL THIS? PICTURE IT: OH NO YOU STUPID APOSTLES! WHY ARENT YOU TEACHING THEM THE SINNERS PRAYER? AND YOU FORGOT TO TELL THEM IM ONLY A SECOND PERSON IN A TRINITY! (... CRICKETS CHIRPING)
What the bible & the spirit of prophecy said?
The Holy Spirit, which proceeds from the only begotten Son of God - RH, April 5, 1906
Note: Only 2 divine Being create the world
The Father and the Son engaged in the mighty, wondrous work they had contemplated, of creating the world... After the earth was created, and the beasts upon it, the Father and Son carried out their purpose, which was designed before the fall of Satan, to make man in their own image. They had wrought together in the creation of the earth and every living thing upon it. And now God said to His Son, "Let Us make man in Our image" - EGW, The Spirit of Prophecy, vol.1, pg.24,25
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ; it is His representative - 13MR 313.3, 1895
Christ has left His Holy Spirit to be His representative in the world - Lt84, October 22, 1895
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ, which is sent to all men to give them sufficiency - 14MR 84.3
We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ - Lt66, April 10, 1894
..but it is the leaven of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, which is sent down from heaven, called the Holy Ghost - Ms36-1891
They have one God and one Saviour; and one Spirit, the Spirit of Christ, is to bring unity into their ranks - 9T 189.3, 1909
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Romans 8:9
Finally, we know the Divine unity of the Father and the Son from the fact that both have the same Spirit. Paul, after saying that they that are in the flesh cannot please God, continues: "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." Rom. 8:9. Here we find that the Holy Spirit is both the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ - E.J. Waggoner, CAHR, p.23, 1890
All things Christ received from God - DA, p. 21
The Father gave HIS Spirit without measure to HIS Son - RH, November 5, 1908
They were two, yet little short of being identical; two in individuality, yet one in spirit, and heart, and character - Youth's Instructor, Descember 16, 1897
This refers to the omnipresence of the Spirit of Christ, called the Comforter - 14MR 179.2
I will not leave you comfortless; I will come to you - John 14:18
Note: His Spirit is A DISTINCT PERSONALITY, the Holy Spirit has a personality
The Holy Spirit is the Comforter, in Christ's name. He PERSONIFIES CHRIST, yet is A DISTINCT PERSONALITY - 20MR 324.2
When trials overshadow the soul, remember the word of Christ, remember that He is an unseen presence in the PERSON of the Holy Spirit - DG 185.2, 1897
Lift up Christ in His power in the PERSON of the Holy Spirit. He is waiting for them toopen the door an admit Him - Lt59, March 29, 1899
Christ has left His Holy Spirit to be His representative in the world - Lt84, October 22, 1895
Jesus is present in the PERSON of His representative, the Holy Spirit - 12MR 145.2, 1898
The spirit of every living being has a personality because our spirit is our personality. So the Holy Spirit has a personality because God and His Son have a personality. "In giving us His Spirit, God gives us Himself," (E.G. White, 7T 273.1, 1902)
Note: His Spirit DIVESTED of the personality of humanity AND INDEPENDENT
"Cumbered with humanity, CHRIST could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is [Christ] HIMSELF, divested of the personality of humanity, and independent thereof. HE would represent Himself as present in all places by HIS Holy Spirit, as the Omnipresent." (Ellen G. White, Lt119, February 18, 1895)
Note: in His second coming, only 2 divine Being mention, Son of man & his Father (not mention the Holy Spirit, as another divine Being)
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works - Matt. 16:27
Satan, next to Christ, was... highest in power and glory - Sign of the Times, July 23, 1902
After the fall of man. It was Gabriel,the angel next in rank to the Son of God - DA. pg.234
..he (Satan) did not want to occupy a second place, but to be next to God. He would have the Lord Jesus become second to him,... he was jealous of Christ, the Saviour... his craving to be the highest one next to God - EGW, Ms74, March 20, 1910
Christ gave His representative, the third person of the Godhead, the Holy spirit - EGW, CTr 301.4
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ; it is His representative - EGW, 13MR 313.3, 1895
Note : Power to resist & overcome sin
Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the third person of the Godhead - DA, 671.2
There is no power in you apart from Christ, but it is your privilege to have Christ abiding in your heart by faith, and He can overcome sin in you, when you cooperate with His efforts - EGW, Our High Calling, 76.5
With His spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin - EGW, Review and Herald, May 19, 1904
The Prince of the power of evil can only be held in check by the power of God in the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit - EGW, Special Testimonies, series A, no. 10, p. 37, 1897
Jesus alone has power to save from sin, to free from the power of evil; and to doubt him who has laid down his life for us, is to grieve and insult the Father - EGW, Review and Herald, February 10, 1891
By His humanity, Christ touched humanity; by His divinity, He lays hold upon the throne of God. As the Son of man, He gave us an example of obedience; as the Son of God, He gives us power to obey. DA 24.3
Note : Below, several statement indicate there are ONLY 2 Divine Being (using the word ALONE to express it)
The Father and the Son ALONE are to be exalted - EGW, The Youth's Instructor, July 7, 1898
God and Christ ALONE know what the souls of men have cost - EGW, Signs of the Times, January 13, 1909
God informed Satan that to his Son ALONE He would reveal his secret purposes... - EGW, Signs of the Times, January 9, 1879
No man, nor even the highest angel, can estimate the great cost; it is known ONLY to the Father and the Son - EGW, The Bible Echo, October 28, 1895
The ONLY Being who was one with God lived the law in humanity, descended to the lowly life of a common laborer, and toiled at the carpenter's bench with His earthly parent - EGW, Signs of the Times, October 14, 1897
Christ the Word, the only-begotten of God, was one with the eternal Father, one in nature, in character, and in purpose, the ONLY being in all the universe that could enter into all the counsels and purposes of God. By Christ, the Father wrought in the creation of all heavenly beings - EGW, GC p.493
Note: Who is the Comforter?
This refers to the omnipresence of the Spirit of Christ, called the Comforter - EGW,14MR 179.2
Let them study the seventeenth of John, and learn how to pray and how to live the prayer of Christ. He is the Comforter. He will abide in their hearts, making their joy full - EGW, Review and Herald, January 27, 1903
As by faith we look to Jesus, our faith pierces the shadow, and we adore God for His wondrous love is giving Jesus the Comforter - EGW, 19MR 297.3
Christ is to be known by the blessed name of Comforter - EGW, Ms7 - 1902, January 26, 1902
The Saviour is our Comforter - EGW, 8MR 49.3
Jesus comes to you as the Spirit of Truth - EGW, 2MR 337.1
To the guidance of this Comforter all who believe in Chist may implicitly trust. He is the Spirit of truth - EGW, 12MR 260.1
We can not be with Christ in person, as were His first disciples, but HE has sent HIS Holy Spirit to guide us into all truth - [John 16:13 quoted] EGW,Ms30, June 18, 1900
..Receive ye the Holy Ghost.. Christ breathed HIS Spirit upon them - EGW, DA, pg.805
.. in giving HIS Holy Spirit, He is giving to them the glory which the Father has given him, that He and his people may be one in God - EGW, Signs of the Times, October 3, 1892
When the Holy Spirit was poured out upon the early church, the whole multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul. The Spirit of Christ made them one. This is the fruit of abiding in Christ - EGW, GCDB, February 6, 1893
The promise of the Holy Spirit is not limited to any age or to any race. Christ declared that the divine influence of HIS Spirit was to be with His followers unto the end. From the day of pentecost to the present time, the Comforter has been sent to all who have yielded themselves fully to the Lord and to His service - EGW, Acts of the Apostles, 49.2
Christ came to our world, but the world could not endure His purity. He has gone to His Father, but He has sent HIS Holy Spirit to represent Him in the world till he shall come again - EGW, Ms1, January 11, 1897
"Cumbered with humanity, CHRIST could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is [Christ] HIMSELF, divested of the personality of humanity, and independent thereof. HE would represent Himself as present in all places by HIS Holy Spirit, as the Omnipresent." (Ellen G. White, Lt119, February 18, 1895)
So much confussion in this video. Pastor please return to simpler biblical concepts, stop teachint human inferences
, THE BIBLE NEVER SHOWS ANY PERSON REPEATING A SINNERS PRAYER, , , WE CAN LEAVE THE SUBJECT OF THE TRINITY OUT OF IT AND JUST ASK, what MUST I DO TO BE SAVED? THE JAILER IN ACTS 16;23-33 ITS RIGHT THERE IN THE BIBLE TO SEE, PAUL AND SILUS ANSWERED : BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THOU SHALT BE SAVED, BELIEVING ALONE T DOES NOT SAVE, THE NEXT 2 VERSES DEMONSTRATE WHAT SAVING FAITH DOES: AND THEY SPAKE UNTO HIM THE WORD OF THE LORD, AND TO ALL THAT WERE IN HIS HOUSE, AND HE TOOK THEM THE SAME HOUR OF THE NIGHT, AND WASHED THEIR STRIPES, (AND WAS BAPTIZED, ACTS 2;38) HE AND ALL HIS STRAIGHTWAY. WE CAN READ IN THE BIBLE, THAT PAUL NEVER TOLD THE JAILOR THE HE NEEDED TO ACCEPT OR RECIEVE THE LORD AS A PERSONAL SAVIOR, HE NEVER HAD HIM REPEAT THE SINNERS PRAYER FOUND IN EVERY TRINITARIAN CHICK PUBLICATIANS TRACT. ACTS 2;38 DOESNT ONLY APPEAR IN ACTS 2;38 ITS ALL OVER , EVERY PERSON CONVERTED AND WHO BECAME A "CHRISTIAN"ACTS 11;26 WAS BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST , IN ACTS 22;16 PAUL RECOUNTS HIS OWN CONVERSION ACCORDING TO ACTS 2;38 IN HIS OWN WORDS; ROMANS 6;1-6 EPHESIANS 4;3-6 BUT, THAT SAID, HOW MANY FOLKS CLAIMING THE TRINITY WILL ACTUALY OPEN THE BIBLE AND READ THIS FOR THEMSELVES? NOT MANY, A VAST MAJORITY ARE FABRICATING A COMEBACK INSTEAD, NOT REALIZING ITS GODS WORD, AND THEREFORE GOD HIMSELF THEY ARE FIGHTING, WILL YOU DEAR READER BE BOLD ENOUPH TO CHECK UP ON THIS AND SEE IF IT IS SO? GOOGLE EVERY BAPTIZM IN THE BIBLE NOBODY IS EVER BAPTIZED IN 3 ANYTHING AS IN MATHEW 28;19 AM I AGAINST 28;19? NO! JESUS IS THE FATHER ISAIAH 9;6 HE IS THE SON, ISAIAH 9;6 HE IS "THE MIGHTY GOD" ISAIAH 9;6 FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES, NOT NAMES AND MATHEW 28;19 READS BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME (SINGULAR) JAMES 2;19 SAYS THOU BELIEVEST THERE IS ONE GOD, THOU DOEST WELL, THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, AND TREMBLE ROMANS 6;1-6 PROVES THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT IS WRITTEN TO AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE (PST TENSE) ALREADY BEEN BAPTIZED, UNDER 2 OR 3 WITNESESS, EVERY WORD SHALL BE ESTABLISHED, GALATIANS 3;26-27 READ THUS:FOR YOU ARE ALL THE CHILDREN OF GOD BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. IS IT ONLY BY THAT FAITH? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. THE VERY NEXT VERSE READS:FOR AS MANY OF YOU AS HAVE BEEN (PAST TENSE) BAPTIZED (PST TENSE) INTO CHRIST HAVE PUT ON CHRIST. I REPEAT THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT (THATS AFTER THE RESURECTION) IS WRITTEN SPECIFICLY AND DIRECTLY TO THOSE, ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED AS IN ACTS 2;38 HOW MUCH OF ME, MYSELF HAVE I JUST POSTED? OR DID I NOT PRESENT ONLY BIBLE SCRIPTURE? IN CONCLUSION, I MENTIONED THAT FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES NOT NAMES THATS WHY, SHOCKER, YOU WONT FIND THE APOSTLES TO WHOM MAT 28;19 WAS BEING SPOKEN TO BY JESUS EVER, AND NEVER BAPTIZED ANYONE IN 3 ANYTHING , DO THE APOSTLES SOUND LIKE TRINITARIANS TO YOU? WERE THEY BAFOONS WHO DISOBEYED GOD, WHO IS JESUS, AND POOR OL GOD WAS JUST HELPLESS TO STOP ALL THIS? PICTURE IT: OH NO YOU STUPID APOSTLES! WHY ARENT YOU TEACHING THEM THE SINNERS PRAYER? AND YOU FORGOT TO TELL THEM IM ONLY A SECOND PERSON IN A TRINITY! (... CRICKETS CHIRPING)
SIMPLE AND EASY TO FIND STEP ONE: OPEN BIBLE STEP 2 CHECK TO SEE IF WHAT IS BEING SAID IS BIBLE AND IN CONTEXT WITH OTHER RELATED SCRIPTURE
Shameful that the NIV is used
Hello
Jesus is the Messiah
The Son of God
The Son of David
The Son of man
The man God has chosen to be his anointed king
The man God will judge the world through
The man God raised from the dead
Jesus has a God
There is no triune god in scripture
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
, THE BIBLE NEVER SHOWS ANY PERSON REPEATING A SINNERS PRAYER, , , WE CAN LEAVE THE SUBJECT OF THE TRINITY OUT OF IT AND JUST ASK, what MUST I DO TO BE SAVED? THE JAILER IN ACTS 16;23-33 ITS RIGHT THERE IN THE BIBLE TO SEE, PAUL AND SILUS ANSWERED : BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THOU SHALT BE SAVED, BELIEVING ALONE T DOES NOT SAVE, THE NEXT 2 VERSES DEMONSTRATE WHAT SAVING FAITH DOES: AND THEY SPAKE UNTO HIM THE WORD OF THE LORD, AND TO ALL THAT WERE IN HIS HOUSE, AND HE TOOK THEM THE SAME HOUR OF THE NIGHT, AND WASHED THEIR STRIPES, (AND WAS BAPTIZED, ACTS 2;38) HE AND ALL HIS STRAIGHTWAY. WE CAN READ IN THE BIBLE, THAT PAUL NEVER TOLD THE JAILOR THE HE NEEDED TO ACCEPT OR RECIEVE THE LORD AS A PERSONAL SAVIOR, HE NEVER HAD HIM REPEAT THE SINNERS PRAYER FOUND IN EVERY TRINITARIAN CHICK PUBLICATIANS TRACT. ACTS 2;38 DOESNT ONLY APPEAR IN ACTS 2;38 ITS ALL OVER , EVERY PERSON CONVERTED AND WHO BECAME A "CHRISTIAN"ACTS 11;26 WAS BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST , IN ACTS 22;16 PAUL RECOUNTS HIS OWN CONVERSION ACCORDING TO ACTS 2;38 IN HIS OWN WORDS; ROMANS 6;1-6 EPHESIANS 4;3-6 BUT, THAT SAID, HOW MANY FOLKS CLAIMING THE TRINITY WILL ACTUALY OPEN THE BIBLE AND READ THIS FOR THEMSELVES? NOT MANY, A VAST MAJORITY ARE FABRICATING A COMEBACK INSTEAD, NOT REALIZING ITS GODS WORD, AND THEREFORE GOD HIMSELF THEY ARE FIGHTING, WILL YOU DEAR READER BE BOLD ENOUPH TO CHECK UP ON THIS AND SEE IF IT IS SO? GOOGLE EVERY BAPTIZM IN THE BIBLE NOBODY IS EVER BAPTIZED IN 3 ANYTHING AS IN MATHEW 28;19 AM I AGAINST 28;19? NO! JESUS IS THE FATHER ISAIAH 9;6 HE IS THE SON, ISAIAH 9;6 HE IS "THE MIGHTY GOD" ISAIAH 9;6 FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES, NOT NAMES AND MATHEW 28;19 READS BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME (SINGULAR) JAMES 2;19 SAYS THOU BELIEVEST THERE IS ONE GOD, THOU DOEST WELL, THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, AND TREMBLE ROMANS 6;1-6 PROVES THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT IS WRITTEN TO AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE (PST TENSE) ALREADY BEEN BAPTIZED, UNDER 2 OR 3 WITNESESS, EVERY WORD SHALL BE ESTABLISHED, GALATIANS 3;26-27 READ THUS:FOR YOU ARE ALL THE CHILDREN OF GOD BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. IS IT ONLY BY THAT FAITH? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. THE VERY NEXT VERSE READS:FOR AS MANY OF YOU AS HAVE BEEN (PAST TENSE) BAPTIZED (PST TENSE) INTO CHRIST HAVE PUT ON CHRIST. I REPEAT THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT (THATS AFTER THE RESURECTION) IS WRITTEN SPECIFICLY AND DIRECTLY TO THOSE, ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED AS IN ACTS 2;38 HOW MUCH OF ME, MYSELF HAVE I JUST POSTED? OR DID I NOT PRESENT ONLY BIBLE SCRIPTURE? IN CONCLUSION, I MENTIONED THAT FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES NOT NAMES THATS WHY, SHOCKER, YOU WONT FIND THE APOSTLES TO WHOM MAT 28;19 WAS BEING SPOKEN TO BY JESUS EVER, AND NEVER BAPTIZED ANYONE IN 3 ANYTHING , DO THE APOSTLES SOUND LIKE TRINITARIANS TO YOU? WERE THEY BAFOONS WHO DISOBEYED GOD, WHO IS JESUS, AND POOR OL GOD WAS JUST HELPLESS TO STOP ALL THIS? PICTURE IT: OH NO YOU STUPID APOSTLES! WHY ARENT YOU TEACHING THEM THE SINNERS PRAYER? AND YOU FORGOT TO TELL THEM IM ONLY A SECOND PERSON IN A TRINITY! (... CRICKETS CHIRPING)
JAMES 2;19 EPHESIANS 4;36 PLEASE LOOK IN YOUR OWN BIBLE