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10:00 argument is kind of right and kind of wrong - Catechizm is a source of teaching for Catholics. Sure sunday visitor is not same authority as council but we can use it as opinion of Dr. Paulien in Adventism because he do not speak as a GC session. Still both point to certain ways of understanding in a denominations. Still I wonder what he shared on the topic since it was historically incorrect...

Our church leadership typically only wants to hear good things about themselves. If you’re going to turn things around and drive growth, one thing is required the-truth. In love and respect but with power and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.. Just tell-it-like-it-is truth, of course, in love

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, (He) who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. The Holy Spirit has a personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God. {FLB 52.3} "The Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the Godhead. He is the great teacher sent from heaven to guide us into all truth.""Manuscript 20," 1906

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, (He) who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. The Holy Spirit has a personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God. {FLB 52.3} "The Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the Godhead. He is the great teacher sent from heaven to guide us into all truth.""Manuscript 20," 1906

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, (He) who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. The Holy Spirit has a personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God. {FLB 52.3} "The Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the Godhead. He is the great teacher sent from heaven to guide us into all truth.""Manuscript 20," 1906

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, (He) who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. The Holy Spirit has a personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God. {FLB 52.3} "The Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the Godhead. He is the great teacher sent from heaven to guide us into all truth.""Manuscript 20," 1906

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, (He) who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. The Holy Spirit has a personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God. {FLB 52.3} "The Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the Godhead. He is the great teacher sent from heaven to guide us into all truth.""Manuscript 20," 1906

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, (He) who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. The Holy Spirit has a personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God. {FLB 52.3} "The Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the Godhead. He is the great teacher sent from heaven to guide us into all truth.""Manuscript 20," 1906

Thank God for faithful Sentinels like Thomas Shepherd.

I have met atheist people that know eating meat is not good for you. What is the point of another religion telling Ellen White about meat?

, THE BIBLE NEVER SHOWS ANY PERSON REPEATING A SINNERS PRAYER, , , WE CAN LEAVE THE SUBJECT OF THE TRINITY OUT OF IT AND JUST ASK, what MUST I DO TO BE SAVED? THE JAILER IN ACTS 16;23-33 ITS RIGHT THERE IN THE BIBLE TO SEE, PAUL AND SILUS ANSWERED : BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THOU SHALT BE SAVED, BELIEVING ALONE T DOES NOT SAVE, THE NEXT 2 VERSES DEMONSTRATE WHAT SAVING FAITH DOES: AND THEY SPAKE UNTO HIM THE WORD OF THE LORD, AND TO ALL THAT WERE IN HIS HOUSE, AND HE TOOK THEM THE SAME HOUR OF THE NIGHT, AND WASHED THEIR STRIPES, (AND WAS BAPTIZED, ACTS 2;38) HE AND ALL HIS STRAIGHTWAY. WE CAN READ IN THE BIBLE, THAT PAUL NEVER TOLD THE JAILOR THE HE NEEDED TO ACCEPT OR RECIEVE THE LORD AS A PERSONAL SAVIOR, HE NEVER HAD HIM REPEAT THE SINNERS PRAYER FOUND IN EVERY TRINITARIAN CHICK PUBLICATIANS TRACT. ACTS 2;38 DOESNT ONLY APPEAR IN ACTS 2;38 ITS ALL OVER , EVERY PERSON CONVERTED AND WHO BECAME A "CHRISTIAN"ACTS 11;26 WAS BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST , IN ACTS 22;16 PAUL RECOUNTS HIS OWN CONVERSION ACCORDING TO ACTS 2;38 IN HIS OWN WORDS; ROMANS 6;1-6 EPHESIANS 4;3-6 BUT, THAT SAID, HOW MANY FOLKS CLAIMING THE TRINITY WILL ACTUALY OPEN THE BIBLE AND READ THIS FOR THEMSELVES? NOT MANY, A VAST MAJORITY ARE FABRICATING A COMEBACK INSTEAD, NOT REALIZING ITS GODS WORD, AND THEREFORE GOD HIMSELF THEY ARE FIGHTING, WILL YOU DEAR READER BE BOLD ENOUPH TO CHECK UP ON THIS AND SEE IF IT IS SO? GOOGLE EVERY BAPTIZM IN THE BIBLE NOBODY IS EVER BAPTIZED IN 3 ANYTHING AS IN MATHEW 28;19 AM I AGAINST 28;19? NO! JESUS IS THE FATHER ISAIAH 9;6 HE IS THE SON, ISAIAH 9;6 HE IS "THE MIGHTY GOD" ISAIAH 9;6 FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES, NOT NAMES AND MATHEW 28;19 READS BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME (SINGULAR) JAMES 2;19 SAYS THOU BELIEVEST THERE IS ONE GOD, THOU DOEST WELL, THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, AND TREMBLE ROMANS 6;1-6 PROVES THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT IS WRITTEN TO AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE (PST TENSE) ALREADY BEEN BAPTIZED, UNDER 2 OR 3 WITNESESS, EVERY WORD SHALL BE ESTABLISHED, GALATIANS 3;26-27 READ THUS:FOR YOU ARE ALL THE CHILDREN OF GOD BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. IS IT ONLY BY THAT FAITH? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. THE VERY NEXT VERSE READS:FOR AS MANY OF YOU AS HAVE BEEN (PAST TENSE) BAPTIZED (PST TENSE) INTO CHRIST HAVE PUT ON CHRIST. I REPEAT THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT (THATS AFTER THE RESURECTION) IS WRITTEN SPECIFICLY AND DIRECTLY TO THOSE, ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED AS IN ACTS 2;38 HOW MUCH OF ME, MYSELF HAVE I JUST POSTED? OR DID I NOT PRESENT ONLY BIBLE SCRIPTURE? IN CONCLUSION, I MENTIONED THAT FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES NOT NAMES THATS WHY, SHOCKER, YOU WONT FIND THE APOSTLES TO WHOM MAT 28;19 WAS BEING SPOKEN TO BY JESUS EVER, AND NEVER BAPTIZED ANYONE IN 3 ANYTHING , DO THE APOSTLES SOUND LIKE TRINITARIANS TO YOU? WERE THEY BAFOONS WHO DISOBEYED GOD, WHO IS JESUS, AND POOR OL GOD WAS JUST HELPLESS TO STOP ALL THIS? PICTURE IT: OH NO YOU STUPID APOSTLES! WHY ARENT YOU TEACHING THEM THE SINNERS PRAYER? AND YOU FORGOT TO TELL THEM IM ONLY A SECOND PERSON IN A TRINITY! (... CRICKETS CHIRPING)

TO anyone who will actualy open their Bible: Mark 12;28-And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together,and perceiving that he had answered well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29- And JESUS answered him,"The FIRST of ALL the commandments is, HEAR oh Israel; The LORD our GOD is ONE LORD: and ye shall love the Lord thy GOD with all thy heart , and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind,and with all thy strength: and the second is like, namely this, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, THERE is NO other Commandment greater than these. The first commandment is not something to do but what to believe,present the BIBLE Scripture where GOD Split into 2 extra, well, it happened at the council of /nicea, where the Catholic intstitution said thats the way it is. Read romans 14;10-12 Jesus Christ is on the Judgement seat and he is called GOD. this clown with the phd (phony halfwit Demon) wont mention the fact that every i said every and any Trinitarian believes that repeating the so called sinners prayer saves them, like trinity, the sinners prayer exhists in their own minds but NOT in the bible, salvation is by faith they say Galatians 3;26 says we are children of God by faith but the verse below says for as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ, ACTS 2;38-39 so what does the Risen Christ say? mark 16;16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved but he that believest not shall be damned This stuffed shirt charlaton has the nerve to mention paul Acts 9 has the 1st story of pauls baptism and in acts 22;6-16 paul recounts it in his own words boooom! there went first the trinity then the sinners prayer since they are against this they are against the only Gospel found in acts romans ephesians hey Fugget about they are against that good looking bible they bought at barnes and noble its useless in their hands

Jon, You are spot on.!!!!!!!!!!

Does anyone see the irony that this takes place ar Andrews University named after JN Andrews who said, " The doctrine of the trinity which was established in the church ( Catholic) by the council of Nice, AD 325. This doctrine destroys the personality of God, and his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

Opening statement: one should not speculate. Then proceeds to speculate! (Words like hint, inferred, deduced) With 0 direct evidence to support his claim. The same argument used to discard te plural of majesty (later conceptualization - which is debated as it apears in esra) is applied by using 4th century concepts and terminology to biblical authors that predate those concepts. Is literally reading concepts into and not out from the text.

Pantheism was the tragic departure from the solid pillar of the personality of God. Pantheism is much closer to trinitarism than to materialist "arrianism". In both panteism and trinitarism God is not believed to be a person but a substance, mysterious being. Omega apostasy indeed. A fake God.

So much confussion in this video. Pastor please return to simpler biblical concepts, stop teachint human inferences

Let Us: the best explanation is that God Spoke to His Son Such as Gen 1:26 (Ellen White confirms) or to his heavenly Court (Ellen White comments that angels went down to Babel and confused the languages. 0 arguments to reject this interpretation besides the expositors opinion, but not a single text.

You are correct in that the trinity can only be inferred or assumed as it it not plainly stated. It can be a coherent conclusion but not more than that. Moreover it ignores several facts. Many of the employed texts just count to three and assume the text says those 3 make up 1 God but that is never said. In fact The Bible even in the texts you used ideantifies clearly that the One God is the Father, and His Son Is Divine, but is NOT God, is the SON of God as Jesus Himself claims. Regarding your last claim, subordination of the Son to the Father id Clear in thr New Testament. For Example 1 Cor 15. Even in eternity.

Praise The Lord. Thank you, sir. God bless Seventh Day Adventist Church Service 🙂

Why the need to “attack” the evangelical model? This is Adventisms problem. Its identity is always formed by arguing with another group, over and against their position. Just demonstrate a Biblical theology of the covenants there is no need to attack evangelicals in an attempt to demonstrate you are correct. 😂 Perhaps you are. But your reasons for doing what you are doing are wrong. Belittle and demean another Christian group. But…then again you have been doing this since 1844. 😢

Thanks for the presentation! A lot of great material here.

DenisFortin you are Philosophy to much!!!

A other proof of NO Trinity! "God"+970 time in the Bibel.= One Person! And "Jehova" 22 times in the Bibel= One Person!!! True God! John 17:3. And 1 Peter 1:3. + 2. Corintians 11:31. Epheser 1:3 + Deutoronomy 4:35-39;6:4;32:39 + 2 Samuel 7:22 and 1 King 8:60 and 2.King19:15 and Chronic 17:2 + Nehemiah 9:6 + Spalm 18:31;86:10 and Jesajah 37:16-20;43:10-11;44:6-8+4. + 5:21+46:9. Hosea 13:4 and Joel 2:27. THE lird Almighty is ONE! 22 times in the Bible= one Person. As Mark 12:29-34+John 17:3 and 1 Corinthians 8:4-6+Galatians 3:20+ Ephesians 4:6 and Timotheus 1:17;2:5 and James 2:19 ( Bible, proof of Gods Word!!!)

To Paul! He did not ever recognised the Trinity!! Only two Persons 1 Corinthians 1:3+ 2 Corinthians 1:3 and Galatians 1:3 + 1 Thessalonians 1:1 + 2 Thessalonians 1:2. So 1 Timothy 1:2.Titus 1:4 and Philemon 1:3 All of these greetings are without variation-the holy Spirit is consistently left out( a great oversight ---- indeed blasphemy,provided the Trinity Doctrine teachings!!!) Then the holy Spirit is not a Person, so he can apier as Dove, Fire, and so on!as it God Almighty please! And read WGWhites report on " Western Tour"!!!

The Trinity teaching is the wrong teachings of the Catholic Church! Not found in the whole Bibel!! Matthew 28:19 don't belong to the Bibel! You find it absolutely not in the Hebrew version! This are the right Verse, Acts 8:12+16. acts 10:48+ 19:5. Acts 22:16 and Roman 6:3 and 1 Corintians 1:13 + Galater 3:27. Ann so to 1 John 5:7 was addet later before 1500s ,and not found in Greek manuscripts! It is an interpolation,parenthetical comment wich is presumably added inn margin which is later incorporated into the Text. And John Harvey Kellogs was rejected from EGWhite!!

James White= Non-Trinitarian 1849-1855 Uriah Smith Non- Trinitarian 1855-1861 James White Non Trinitarian 1861-1864 Uriah Smith Non Trinitarian 1864-1869 John Nevins Andrew Non Trinitarian 1869-1870 Uriah Smith Non Trinitarian 1870-1871 Janes White Non Trinitarian 1871-1872 Uriah Smith Non Trinitarian 1872-1873 James White Non Trinitarian 1873-1877 So on to 1901-1903 W.W.Prescott Closed Trinitarian 1903-1909 W.A.Spicer Trinitarian 1909-1911 F.M. Wilox Trinitarian 1911-1944 W.A.Spicer Trinitarian 1945 F.D.Nichol Trinitarian 1945-1966 Kenneth Wood Trinitarian 1966-1982 William G.Johnsson Trinitarian 1982-2006 Bill Knott Trinitarian 2007- Publiccation Name Changes.The Present Truth 1849-1850.The Advent Review 1850. Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herold 1850-1851.The Advent Review and Sabbath Herold 1851-1961. Review and Herold 1961-1971+ 1971-1978. Advents Review 1978>>>>>

I will give you seven Biblical truths, there is absolutely no Triune God as Person! John 17:3+20:17. Revelation 3:12. Deutoronomy 32:39. 1 Corinthians 8:6+15:26-28. And 1 John 4:12 + Acts 1:17. So is Jesus not God, there is but only ONE God 1Timotheus 2:5 and 1 Corinthians 8:6. If Jesus. Christ was God, he could not die at the Cross.The whole thing would be a big joke!!! Jesus was 100% human,that's why God Father had to raise him from the dead! Acts 2:24+32. and 3:15+26.and 4:10+5:30 and 10:40 and 13:30;33;34;37. Romans 4:24;6:4!!!! Think,a Person has a name,God= I Am. The Son,Jesus. the holy Spirit has no name!! The holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Lord Almighty and his Son Jesus Christ!! A holy Spirit as a Person,cannot be in different places at the same time but as Gods and his Son's Spirit, he can be al over the World!!! EGW never ever claimed to be God Almighty is a Trinity, Read ,Western Tour ' by Ellen G. White!

There are some great verses in here.

This was an excellent presentation. It gave great historical context, both general Christian and Adventist.

An ecumenism apologist trying to deceive

Amen

This is why the principle of Bible study--line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little is still the most accurate and useful way to study the Bible and to present these critical Bible truths. We do not then need to apologize or make excuses for what people call Catholic bashing which most often is an excuse for rejecting the plainly revealed will of God. We don't have to worry about being tolerant. Do one's best to present the truth in a connected, easy to understand and difficult to repulse way but present the truth.We must be more concerned of rightly representing the teachings of the Word, of being faithful to the message than about how it will be received. We leave its reception to the Holy Spirit who knows how to work on hearts.

Jeremiah 31:33 and Hebrews 10:15 and 16. The Holy spirit is Jehovah. 🙌 31“Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, 32not like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD. 33“For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the LORD: “I will put My law within them and write it on their heart; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34They will not teach again, each one his neighbor and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the LORD, “for I will forgive their wrongdoing, and their sin I will no longer remember.” 15And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; for after saying, 16“THIS IS THE COVENANT WHICH I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, DECLARES THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS UPON THEIR HEARTS, AND WRITE THEM ON THEIR MIND,” He then says, 17“AND THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL NO LONGER REMEMBER.” 18Now where there is forgiveness of these things, an offering for sin is no longer required. Also for consideration 2nd Corinthians chapter 3:15And until today, whenever Moses is read, the veil is laid over their heart, 16And whenever anyone of them will be turned to THE LORD JEHOVAH, the veil is taken away from him. 17But The Spirit is THE LORD JEHOVAH, and wherever The Spirit of THE LORD JEHOVAH is, there is freedom. 18But we all see the glory of THE LORD JEHOVAH with unveiled faces, as in a mirror, and we are changed into the image from glory to glory, as from THE LORD JEHOVAH, THE SPIRIT. Peshitta Holy Bible Translated

who is the lecture

An amazing seminar. If there is any other seminar, please upload.

Such a good biblical report and explanation of the book of Isaiah. I am looking forward to finishing the whole seminar. Thank you

Still great teaching in 2023

The enemy has a way of making a good deed seem bad. It is a device he uses to get us to dilute the message. Truth is truth. Its a serious thing to hold on to the truth out of fear of disappointing people .Ezekiel 3:18-19

According to the 3 angels message. All are inseparable. They were proclaimed together with a loud voice so they should be taught/preached together. Many persons left Jesus when Jesus taught unpopular things

Aren’t seventh day adventists supposed to proclaim the three angels messages in Rev 14: 6 -.. about babylon(sea beast of rev 13 )wasn’t that to begin since the hour if is judgement /cleansing of the sanctuary begins. How then do you say we have to know the right time to declare the beast Didn’t Rev 14 says the time is now?.

if the evil trinity in Revelation 13 is a counterfeit to the biblical Trinity, why is it that the evil trinity was not called ONE SATAN?

Your are another devil advocate so sad deceiving God's children and misrepresenting the original SDA CHURCH and Sister White.Shame on you

Your presentation is not from the bible and the Spirit of Prophecy

Why did Dr Jon Pauline mention to Dr Tom Shepherd that we are both New Testament Scholars people understand what he is saying ,that sound like a con artist pitch,

Please unpack in detail the meaning of the symbolism in Revelation 13:1,2. shalom.

You are a deceiver. Deceiving so many😢 shame on you! Study your Bible the way it was meant to be studied! God help us all!🙏

Thanks for beautiful presentation, may you make more Vidio, About bible

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for this study on the Trinity. I’ve been Adventist for over 25 years, The Lord sent me to meetings there the Trinity was taught. About 2 years ago I visited an online ministry. Everything was fine until they said The Holy Spirit was not The Third person of the Godhead. I did’nt believe it, because The Holy Spirit is seen from Genesis to Revelation in the Bible. But is was upsetting! I could not believe it! The one Jesus personally requested of His Father to send to humanity after He would leave, and which The Father did send. The one involved from the very beginning of creation, is not a member of The Godhead is crazy. To hear that Jesus and God The Father is willing to risk us into the hands of such a one is truly upsetting!!! Thank God that is and never will be the case. It leaves a terrible mark against God’s character of love, it’s a terrible deception for the people. How on earth are you going to be sealed in the last days. My bible tells me The Holy Spirit does that, and all the truth(Jesus) leading up to it. This is a mean spirit. May The Lord help us all!!! AMEM

Never heard such crock in my life! Try BELIEVING what your saying before selling it! 🥴