Upgrading the 12 Inch PowerBook G4 to its limit - Max RAM and mSATA SSD!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video, we're upgrading the 1.5 Ghz final PowerBook G4 12 inch to its maximum 1.25GB of RAM and installing an mSATA SSD using the IDE enclosure we've had so much success with. We'll also see if we can figure out what's wrong with that darn latch. We'll then install 10.5 Leopard over FireWire.
I may or may not also ramble a bit about why I like this computer so much.
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I just love how the keyboard looks etc. It is just keys, nearly no bezel, looks so efficient at putting a big keyboard in the smallest formfactor. Similar to the old white apple keyboard (the one before those flat Keyboards)
same, I love the no bezel keyboard look
This computer holds a special place in my heart. I remember buying it maxed out along with an 80GB iPod in cash at the Apple store in San Francisco back in 2005. The keyboard was amazing, the performance, not so much LOL but I didn't care, it looked so futuristic, at the time. I remember being in art school for graphic design, so nostalgic, I'm gonna go cry now.
In cash?! Man, what were you dealing?!
@@mikescudder4621 Ha, no dealing, I did smoke a lot of weed, though, that Bay Area NorCal GAS.
I got like $3k in student loan refund and I needed a new computer, so I cashed out, walked to my local Apple store just off of Market St and Stockton St in SF, only a few blocks away from where I lived, and dropped like $2,500+ ($3,913 in 2023) I think they had some "buy a Mac and get an iPod" deal, so I jumped on that.
Those were the days...
12 inch 4:3 is an absolutely fantastic form factor. I have a 2005 Thinkpad X41 Tablet that is also 12" and it feels great. Compact, but still quite a lot of screen space. Its a shame there are no good 4:3 laptops made anymore. I would love to see a modern 4:3 ThinkPad or Macbook.
I agree completely
Makes me happy that 8:5 and 3:2 ratio displays are getting more common on laptops as the media focus for laptops goes away.
Phones are getting much more extreme aspect ratios, while laptops are getting squarer ones back. It's almost like vertical screen real estate matters a lot! Hmm 🤔
ETA: I actually just picked up an iBook G3 Snow around the time I commented this, and it just feels wonderful. Such a good form factor, hard agree.
Shame that the 12 inch model never got the same level of upgrades as the 15 and 17 - no higher res displays, no better GPU, not even DDR2 RAM.
Oh yeah, more/better RAM would have been especially awesome in this.
@@ActionRetro Ironically the last iBook G4s accepted up to 1.5GB in total - more than this machine!
Bad GPU on your PPC Mac! My iMac G5 can't even render Menu Bar Transparency WITH Core Image and Quartz Extreme even it they are Hardware Accelerated!
My iMac G5 takes more than 1.5 gigs tho, so good on ya G5.
The PowerBook 12” models had a total RAM capacity of 1.25 Gb. 256 Mb was soldered on the motherboard and then you had the single DIMM slot were you could put an up to 1 Gb DIMM.
@@WizardNumberNext I did not know that, specially for the 12". for which I had one for almost 15 years. I think Action Retro doesn't know either. MacTracker and Everyday Mac don't reflect that knowledge. Thank you for the info.
Remember to install TRIM is installing an SSD , Its available for 10.4 , 10.5 at the Macintosh Garden
what does that do?
@Night Rider It's an instruction set that dictates which data blocks on an SSD are no longer in use and can therefore be erased. In doing so it makes the SSD perform better, but more importantly increases its lifespan.
I have performed the same upgrade on my 12 Inch Powerbook G4 (1.33 GHz). I got the laptop in excellent condition for free and the RAM was already upgraded to its maximum. With this SSD in it, the Powerbook is fast and quiet! Thanks for sharing this upgrade!
Did the exact same upgrade to my 12" PB G4. 256GB IDE SSD (when they still made them), 1.5GHz G4, 1.25GB RAM, and installed a SuperDrive.
It's one of my favorite apple devices ever made IMO. too bad it is such a pain to take apart without damaging some of the fragile aluminum.
Your Powerbook is a beauty. Thanks for the quiet video without annoying music and effects, mate.
I loved my little 12" G4. It lasted from August 2003 until about sometime in 2012. I did everything from write marching band drill to video editing to writing software with that little guy. It was murder, though to upgrade. Mine also had the exact same physical ailments on the case... I think it's just another case of an Apple product failing for a "small percentage of users." ;)
This channel has amazing content for only 400 subs, you deserve more. Subbed!
Thank you I really appreciate that!!
Wow, this channel really grew in a few months
I actually just did this exact same thing on the iBook G4 14" model on Friday! 128g SSD (used a miniSATA to SATA converter) and 1.25 GB of RAM. The 14" model disassembly was less straightforward than some of the other guides I have seen, and I had to expose both sides of the logic board to properly de-route and re-route the cables. It works though! My iBook is so quick and speedy!
I love what I've seen on your channel so far. I have a 2004 iBook G4 I've fully upgraded with an SSD as well. I've even got it playing Minecraft (albeit an older version).
I had one of these. Was always quite a slow computer. However, it is one of the finest looking laptops ever created.
The FX Go5200 definitely didn't help!
I used that same adapter to put an SSD in a Windows XP era laptop that I have in my retro collection. They are very handy for getting fast and reliable storage into our vintage machines.
I have the same machine with the same upgrades. Was useful for day-to-day light usage all the way into 2013/2014
The entry level of the PowerBook/MacBook Pro range (12/13") were very good value up until 2016, IMO. Still rocking one of these, an early MBP and a 2014 MBP.
Got one of these with an IDE SSD ! Yes yes a 25Gb 2,5 inches PATA IDE SSD ! Love it 😍
I always liked the PowerBook 12". Such a beautiful machine.
Great content I love the old hardware. Please keep making videos. Thanks.
Thank you!
I love how your channel is growing like crazy man. When you hit 1m I'll be able to say I was here since the beginning!
Haha thanks man!
I used a 12" PowerBook as my main machine for several years, and for a while even used it as a desktop connected to an external monitor and keyboard. I really like the form factor, which was a big difference from the plastic G3 PowerBooks (which were also great in their way). I've bought several of them used over the last year or so since I started collecting these old Macs, but I didn't know there was a model that had a multitouch trackpad. I'm going to have to check the ones I have to see if any of them have it. These machines do feel almost painfully slow compared to the MacBook Pros that were released not long afterward though.
Oh yeah, I'm using a white MacBook released just three years after the PowerBook was discontinued, a mid 2009 5,2 C2D, and it's orders of magnitude faster. I've even got the most recent Catalina on here with the dosdude1 patcher and it's not slow in the slightest. I've got 20+ tabs open in Firefox as I'm typing this to you :)
"Just Like Factory" LOLOLOL great quip....thank you for that.
I will do the mSata swap in my 12" 1,5 ,too next week. I already had the 1,33 Ghz and a 1 Ghz model of these. My 1,5 Ghz model is exactly like yours even with the small dent on the top lid.😄 ..For the latch, mine wasnt working correctly so I cleaned it with lighter fluid, now it is working again, it has to be able to move freely in order to catch. I love your channel with the new style ( whiteboard /videos). cheers.
That bulging on the latch on those powerbooks just seems inevitable, every one I come across has that!
I was given one of these by a friend because I needed a Mac (I was wanting a job in IT, and they required platform agnosticism).
I tore the thing down and rebuilt it with one of the higher spec processors on the motherboard.
I still need to re-Solder one of the Processor's retaining posts, because BOTH motherboards had cracked Solder that pulled the post out of the motherboards.
I had a blast playing Marathon and Myth on it, and learning the OS as best I could.
Oh boy, definitely looking forward to this process on mine. Got it with a dead drive from a friend for a solid deal.
I remember seeing this laptop from Drake & Josh Go to Hollywood. I love how Josh quickly pulled out a PowerBook to play a DVD to show this producer.. realizing how compact it is especially with a DVD drive. From that movie I really wanted this Powerbook. 😩
I still have my 12 inch PowerBook G4 from 2004. It was even a refurb! It still turns on, but the battery pack is completely dead so as soon as it is unplugged from a power supply it loses data and time. My latch still works! Mine has one dent on the front right corner where I accidentally dropped it years ago. Small but mighty!!
I might look into upgrading the hard drive. I already maxed out the RAM years ago. I will need a new battery pack but it looks like they are still available. Thank for the video!
Very nice video and great manual... thank you for that! :)
I purchaised a 1,33 GHz 12" PB on ebay today. I youst can´t wait to get my fingers on it to do all the stuff in your video!
Btw... watching and typing this on my PB 1,67GHz high-res :) I just love apple´s vintage computers!
Greetings
I bought a 12” G4 from a girl who was the original owner. She’s an acquaintance. She took really great care of it. I’ve been wanting to put an SSD inside it BUT, I knew it was a real pain. I’m still not prepared to do it because I know it’s a pain. But with this guide… I might dive in to do it. 😆
Another outstanding video and, I have the same model in my collection. As you stated, when these were new at the apple retail stores, I just walked right pass the 12 inch G4 Powerbook because at the time, I only had eyes for the larger screen on the 17 inch model. However, several years ago found myself needing to get a laptop with a built-in 56k modem. For use on days when, I would sit with an elderly family member in their home that has no high speed internet and only a telephone land line. Prefer to keep my PowerPC systems on OS X 10.4 Tiger. After starting to use this model, I fell in love with its small size factor, speed, and power. My future goal is to upgrade the hard drive and install a version of Linux along with OS X. Daily, I still carry this laptop to the office (for E-mail, iLife, iWorks, watching DVD's, and watching recorded HD over the air TV shows) and it never lets me down.
Thanks so much! That's awesome you're still using it. I've been using this one as my couch browsing machine and it's excellent at that. What Linux are you thinking about? I've been using Adelie on PowerPC and it's super fast.
My goal is to add a version of either Lunix Mint or Lunix Lubuntu. You highlighted an mSATA SSD on this video. However, when looking for between a 500G to 1TB mechanical Hard Drive what type should, I be looking for? It appears every few years that, apple systems use different types of hard drives.
@@transitengineer To be honest, you're much better off getting an IDE to mSATA enclosure and sticking a cheap M2 SSD in that. These take an IDE drive and getting a high-capacity IDE drive that's natively compatible will be a pain and an SSD will be easier to get, probably cheaper, faster and more reliable long-term. Linux-wise you'll need a PowerPC compatible distro, like the PowerPC version of Debian 8.
This is a great upgrade of a great laptop.
Pretty neat how this video popped up in my recommendations a few days after I decided to buy my first vintage Mac (and my first Mac ever, since I won’t lie, I’m a Windows fan first and foremost, but also a big fan of older Macs, having used them a lot at school alongside Windows XP 👍), a 15 inch Aluminium PowerBook G4! I’ve been doing my research and know the disassembly process is different, but this is still quite interesting to watch and not too different from the 15 inch.
Oh very nice!!
Amusing how I stumble across this video the day I come across a PowerBook G4 and start looking for drive replacements
I'd been considering swapping an SSD into my own 12". Thanks for convincing me not to by way of that teardown process 😂 I'm used to working on my Pismo and on Unibodies - this looks like hell!
It would've been interesting to see some speed tests (benchmark or real life) to see if it's worth all that hassle. My guess is probably not since the interface still bottlenecks it.
Funny you upload this, since I did the same procedure to my 15" PowerBook G4 15" DLSD. Much easier to work on than the 12" models or any iBook!
Excellent video - well done. Do you have by any chance comparisons of boot times or loading times of software before and after the upgrade? Many thanks.
Super cool episode 🤟
Could you please share how you made the installer firewire drive with all the different images?
I still have this lovely PowerBook too. Some of of its keyboard keys need replacement, and its plastic frame has broken here and there. Gonna look further to upgrade mine to use mSATA too someday.
Nice Video When I Get My Replacement Upper And Lower Case For My Powerbook G4 I Will Due A Vid On That There Is A Long Story To That
I'm going to have to dig mine out from my retired gadgets cupboard and see if its still working, got the max RAM in mine, but the drive upgrade def sounds worthwhile...
That's something I want to get my hands on!
I loved my PowerBook G4 12" I had the original 867MHz model from when they first brought them to market. Sadly an angry amplifier made short work of its logic board. Would love to own one again!
I was just about to throw away my 12" PB G4 867MHz. The case in the front is a little dented but works fine. Get in touch with me if you want it. I'll gladly send it to anyone who could make use of it.
@@whereisedd only just seen this reply. TH-cam comments are broken for me. If it’s still needing a home I’d be happy to discuss 👍
@@HB-Productions I just sent you an email. Let me know if you don't get it, otherwise let's talk there.
Hey! When I was little my parents had one of these. I think it was around 2014 when they gave me it and an old iphone 3gs on my 5th birthday because my dad got a new one.
cool video bro, hugs from brazil
This computer and the iBook G4 had the BEST laptop keyboards. They were so tactile and nice to use. Unfortunately, upgrading the laptop, as you show, is a real pain.
Glad it only took you two pints of beer to endure the upgrade and OS install experience! 🍺🍺
Imho one of the most beautiful laptops ever made
The PowerBook 12” models had a total RAM capacity of 1.25 Gb. 256 Mb was soldered on the motherboard and then you had the single DIMM slot were you could put an up to 1 Gb DIMM.
awesome video! any issues with the msata/enclosure getting too hot? keep up the good work!
I have almost the same configuration of 2005 (manufactured in the first week in March) 12-in PowerBook, the difference is mine's not getting its 80 GB HDD upgraded to an SSD because my hands shake to much and there are far too many screws involved for that combination to ever be realistic. But it's nice to know such cheap SSDs and adapters are available. I reckon I could use something like that for my 550 MHz TiBook.
awesome! keep it up :D
I like the way the keyboard goes right to the edge of the chassis
If I put a glass that close to my laptop O guarantee I’d find a way to spill it into the keyboard. I’m so wary of that these days I don’t even put them on the same surface because I’m a huge klutz
Quality content as always! If I had to guess what beer you have there, it looks like some sort of stout... is it a Guinness? lol
Haha thanks! It's from a local brewery here that delivers growlers called 2nd Story, and the beer is Bedtime Story... a nice light 9.8% belgian wit 😂
@@ActionRetro would it be possible to see the read/write speeds of the SSD using the Black Magic Speed Test application (or some compatible application)? Also, could you share how well the Powerbook runs (using leopard + upgraded RAM and SSD upgrade)? My thanks for anything you can provide. EXCELLENT VIDEO. Perfect lighting and sound.
I had this same laptop and loved it. Unfortunately damaged beyond repair trying to get it open 🤦♂️
Thanks a ton for sharing this man. Maxing out old Macs is so much fun. I'm very close to getting an old iBook and upgrading to an mSATA SSD.
I wish you would have done a benchmark test or a boot time speed test for this. I have the model before this the 1.3ghz mine has maxed ram but no SSD as of yet. However I run mine on 10.4.11 and use it for classic apps which seem super fast. I love the form factor. May be my favorite PowerBook model ever. Is it worth it to install an SSD? Mine has an Ultra ATA drive right now.
Always been fond of this g4 powerbook and looking for one but they are hard to find and if i find one they are expensive
god this is the MACHINE to have!
I found that you actually can screw out the first two screws hidden under the F1/F2 keys just so, you dont have to pull them off..just pull them up on the side, so that the philips screwdriver reaches them..
I remember swapping the hard drive on my 12" G4
Awesome video! I can't get that wallpaper out of my head yet. Do you have a link to a copy of it?
Thanks! Here's the wallpaper: www.wallpaperflare.com/outrun-vaporwave-wallpaper-gjedg
So the same thing could be done to a 1st gen Apple TV so that I could put movies on it and watch on my G4 and/or tv? For the external hard drive that you had all the different partions and Mac OS 10 on it, how did you set that up?
man, i love your desktop backgrounds, where can we get that??
I wish manufacturers would keep the old, thick designs. You can fit tons of ports, a huge battery (or multiple batteries to comply with FAA regs when flying), tons of drive configurations, and a lot more cooling options to allow for more powerful processors and GPUs.
Not everything needs to be extremely thin.
the 12" PowerBook is perhaps my favorite Apple portable device of all time, I had one back in the day (1.33GHz) that got me through university. Now I own a 1.5GHz model just like yours that I plan on upgrading. Also, I need a link for that sick wallpaper
Nice! Here's the wallpaper: www.wallpaperflare.com/outrun-vaporwave-wallpaper-gjedg
Action Retro thanks man!
hey man, great video! I saw that the mSATA SSD you are using is 3.3V and 450 mA. Do you know if there is some limitation to this current in the powerbook? My question is because I found some mSATA SSD that are 3.3V and 1.5 A and I'm afraid that this will not work on my 12" PB. Once again, congrats for the channel. Cheers from Brazil!
How did you make that bootable Leopard install, i have tried everything, restoring on my ibook g4, restoring on my macbook air running catalina, but no dice. any advice?
Apple Partition Map and macOS extended journaled
@@5thaltaccount547 Thanks! i got it
Should I still buy one I want to use it all day just for youtube notes and can I edit light videos on this laptop?
Great video!!! I have the same model!! I watched the video and decided to give it a go to see if it’s still working, but it shows a curtain in different languages telling me i need to restart the conputer, i can’t pass that message!! Any tips?
Would modifications like this make it reliable enough to not bend under daily use? Just wondering, as I have been considering purchasing a 2005 iBook G4 that would be for that purpose. (No graphics-intensive video games or such.)
that external you have is an awesome until! any idea where to get a tiger installer? im making the same upgrade but need tiger to run os9. thanks!
I really want a iBook G4 or the internals of a power mac G5, working. I'd love to have a offline Mac Os X Jaguar, Puma or Cheetah rig. Would work fine for burning discs & would be one of the coolest looking stereos imo. Aqua OS was top notch in visual UI. Vista was a pretty good solution to it but I still feel it was top notch nothing has quite matched it.
Man can’t leave us hanging: what kind of beer? ;)
More ports than a dozen modern mac computers. Do you ever change the thermal paste?
I have a slightly older version of this powerbook. I use it for music in the workshop these days.... love it. But its HD is on its last legs and the fan has just stopped working. I'm working on some solutions!
I love your vids
is it faster an msata ssd or a pata ssd? (ide ssd)
There are 4 disadvantages on this machine, screen resolution, graphics aren't as powerful, RAM limited to 1.25GB and these do not have a no backlit keyboard.
Still love them, though! And own 3 of them although not the 1.5Ghz models as they get HOT AF!
For some reason I know own 4 of these.
Your other secret weapon is the GNOME Desktop Environment, no? :) 4:33
I have one of this little beauty runinng perfectly (even the battery holds an hour or so) but unfortunately is missing a keycap. Can't find a place to sell a replacement keyboard or even the keycap only (PAGE DOWN). Try to use from another PB 14" but it doesn't fit (it seems that the keys mechanism is specific for the 12"). Any ideia where I could find it?
Thanks a lot. Mauro (Brazil)
One thing that I’ve noticed when installing Msata SSD’s into Mac’s is that the modern G4’s and PowerBooks along with the PowerBook G3’s handle SSD’s fairly well so long as you have a decent one, they can be picky. Meanwhile I’ve only ever been able to get ONE IBook G3 to accept an SSD. Any others I’ve tried, along with the tibook, refuse to see the SSD’s at all.
Wow!! Thank you for such detailed explanation. I have a G4 and will try to contact you.
Do you have a GitHub or somewhere where you have all of the installers you have for older versions of Apple OSs?
I did the same project this weekend and what I did was use SuperDuper to clone my existing hard drive onto the SSD using a MacAlly external hard-drive enclosure. Once I was able to verify that I could boot from the cloned drive, I was up and running!
Hi there.
Wich SSD is suitable for this machine? I mean, there are SATA 1, 2 and 3 type. thanks
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What tablet are you holding when you were looking at the ifixit site? It looks interesting!
Congrats mate, great channel ! I have checked the ssd you proposing but unfortunately is unavailable at the link you've sent. Can you reccomend other ssd's that working with this lovely powerbook or it doesn't matter what you will choose apart that i thas to be only mSATA SSD Q3 ? Cheers
I prefer this form factor over the current Macbooks.
If you are going to use one of those msata adapters leave the lid off of it. Those msata drives get very hot you may want to put a piece of metal from the drive over to the body of the laptop to disipate the heat.
Is there any noticeable difference between the rev D and rev E models of this PowerBook? Both are A1104
I would love either an iBook or PowerBook G4, almost bought one, but the difficulty of disassembly and the drive swap in particular have really put me off. I have a Power Mac G4 MDD which works, but it's big and heavy and mine has some issues. Might have to take another look at the laptops...
What do you intend on doing with the computer
You can likely upgrade the wifi card and swap out the optical drive for another hard drive bay if interested
Oh nice ideas!
I got the blue screen of death which was looked like a broken screen but it wasnt broken. Cant access anything on it.
Any ideas to bring it back?
How soon after turning it on does the screen go blue? Is there anything else on the screen, or is it solid blue?
Any one know why a 17" DLSD/hr would not post just occasionally chime but never anything on the screen? Wish I could figure this thing out.
I have the 12" Powerbook G4 1.33 and the 14" iBook G4 1.33 Both G4's but the 12" is a bit snappier ;)
Compared to the white G3 and G4 iBooks, this is easy!
Hah, I've never actually had the pleasure of opening either of those!
@@ActionRetro Did it several times back in the day for myself, family and friends when these were still everyday use machines.. Every time 5 years of my life!!
Ripped of a surface mounted PCB connector once but was able to fix it.
Beautiful machines, but replacing the HD was a thing of nightmares.
When I was donated a powerbook, it had NO screws! Now that was a screwpocalypse
Anyone know where I can find OSX 10.4? I guess I need a Firewire drive as well?
Does anybody have a link to the retro wallpaper please?