The Biggest Cheater In Goldeneye 007 Speedrunning History

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    Today, we will take a look at one of the saddest stories in goldeneye speedrunning history. A story of one of the best players to play the game, who eventually fell to the dark side and faked many runs, eventually leading to his removal from the ranks. Thousands of hours sunk into the game by an extremely talented player, wiped from the history books completely.
    I'm excited to make a lot more vids, I've been working hard on making my recording set up a lot better and it shows on this video. As always let me know if you have any feedback!
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  • @karljobst
    @karljobst  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5190

    You are a bunch of legends

    • @Lanselot2069
      @Lanselot2069 5 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      no u

    • @NicoTheCinderace
      @NicoTheCinderace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      my friends

    • @karljobst
      @karljobst  5 ปีที่แล้ว +291

      i'll pin you in a minute

    • @choose282
      @choose282 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Maybe the true legend was the friends we made along the way

    • @mattstevenson1334
      @mattstevenson1334 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Takes one to know one

  • @tigermunky
    @tigermunky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7951

    I didn't fake anything.
    Oh, OK, I faked that one, but I didn't fake anything else.
    Oh, alright, I faked 6 other runs. But everything else is legit.
    Ah whatever, I faked the others too, but I certainly didn't fake this one.
    Oh fine, I faked that one too...but I'm not a cheat.

    • @erwinlommer197
      @erwinlommer197 5 ปีที่แล้ว +461

      There could also be some more fakes but everything else is legit.

    • @GlobalWarmingSkeptic
      @GlobalWarmingSkeptic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +637

      I think we should trust him and keep all of his records. He seems like a pretty cool guy.

    • @codefive6480
      @codefive6480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +399

      @@GlobalWarmingSkeptic yeah, he's so cool. Like, we all cheat and lie about 12 records every now and then. people are so irrational smh

    • @John_Longbow
      @John_Longbow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +215

      Somehow this make me think about my ex wife.

    • @philtanics1082
      @philtanics1082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Ha! I hear that John

  • @randyweller4622
    @randyweller4622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1118

    "Nah, I never faked." "Okay, only these 3 are but the other ones aren't." "Okay, the other ones are too, but my newest ones aren't." "Okay, even my newest ones are too." And people are STILL fighting to keep him on rankings! Unbelievable.

    • @lennygirlthetruesavvysavag2410
      @lennygirlthetruesavvysavag2410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are a great pet lover in the video has to be something you can get on to your own idea of Bernard's and the world

    • @anism0010
      @anism0010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      The same reason why Trump became president

    • @xenn4985
      @xenn4985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@anism0010 How do you figure

    • @anism0010
      @anism0010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@xenn4985 lies lies lies and more lies, yet he has actual supporters..

    • @xenn4985
      @xenn4985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@anism0010 Less lies than most other politicians. That's a good track record imo.

  • @commonmistake1942
    @commonmistake1942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1812

    He should have just stopped cheating, they literally gave him second chance then continued to cheat after.

    • @brianjensen5661
      @brianjensen5661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @Greg Fakerson seriously. I can only doubt that any of his runs were legit now.

    • @TheGreatDrake
      @TheGreatDrake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      Hell he tried to prove he didn't cheat by cheating.

    • @badvoodoo2097
      @badvoodoo2097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Getting caught cheating lying and then confessing then lying then confessing then lying then confessing it’s great

    • @littlemisseevee2309
      @littlemisseevee2309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @Greg Fakerson thats not the point? the point is they gave him chances and he didnt take them mate

    • @projectpitchfork860
      @projectpitchfork860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@badvoodoo2097 Well you can't trust him in anything of this regard anymore.

  • @CloaksCosplays
    @CloaksCosplays 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2129

    “Henning is such a great guy, ya know?”
    Henning: *Pasando Goldeneye en Cinco Minutos*

    • @Ten2
      @Ten2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +279

      At least he didn’t have Coke Zero and pizza...
      *unless*

    • @startcasual3840
      @startcasual3840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Haha not many people got that but we certainly did :)

    • @CloaksCosplays
      @CloaksCosplays 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@startcasual3840 How ya'll liking the MNK rework in 5.4?

    • @spydertekd9370
      @spydertekd9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I get that reference!!

    • @NguyenKien1808
      @NguyenKien1808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Minus the pizza and the coke lol

  • @holyknightthatpwns
    @holyknightthatpwns 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1999

    In the first clip of his 2007 secret agent tied WR, Bond says "even trusted friends are capable of betrayal."

    • @dsandoval9396
      @dsandoval9396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Truer words have never been spoken.

    • @yunaka_gaming
      @yunaka_gaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Holy shit

    • @huh968
      @huh968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @AmethystExpert well most ppl did trust henning blom

    • @seantaggart7382
      @seantaggart7382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah
      *It's a shame Hemming Had to go*

    • @7GamerMinutes
      @7GamerMinutes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deep

  • @chronovac
    @chronovac 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4345

    Have you heard the tale of Darth Henning the Fast? It isn't a tale the moderators will tell you

    • @esteban20969564
      @esteban20969564 5 ปีที่แล้ว +210

      darth henning was so skillfull, that he can "beat" world records by cheating his game and fooling most of the people without they even suspect him.

    • @threegenders201
      @threegenders201 5 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      He could even keep the records he set, from breaking..

    • @dermetzger
      @dermetzger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      What happened to him?

    • @AndyHoward
      @AndyHoward 5 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      @@dermetzger He could save others from being banned... But he could not save himself.

    • @gertkimsen
      @gertkimsen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@AndyHoward ironic

  • @littlecatfaceboi3072
    @littlecatfaceboi3072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    This entire time I was just thinking "JESUS CHRIST MAN JUST STOP CHEATING YOU HAVE BEEN CAUGHT SO MANY TIMES"

  • @kargaroc386
    @kargaroc386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    The fact that he made that thread so fast, it almost seems that he was scared shitless, keeping an eye on people's opinions all the time, and jumped the gun.

  • @SpiritedSpy
    @SpiritedSpy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4350

    Me: never done anything productive ever
    Karl Jobst: hello you absolute legends!
    Me: :)

    • @marcusgraham5777
      @marcusgraham5777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      lmao

    • @knightlife98
      @knightlife98 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Ikr...lol!!!! Makes ya feel all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn't it!? 😊😊😊

    • @nigelchristian7491
      @nigelchristian7491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES!!!!

    • @nottenouun8539
      @nottenouun8539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I always assumed that he's referring to someone else.

    • @MrDasfried
      @MrDasfried 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Makes me always quite uncormfortable... Couse Yeah... Am just sittin on my fat ass Smoking weed allday and watch yt

  • @TrueShilic
    @TrueShilic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2537

    He cheated not only the game, but himself.
    He didn't grow.
    He didn't improve.
    He took a shortcut and gained nothing.
    He experienced a hollow victory.
    Nothing was risked and nothing was gained.
    It's sad that he didn't know the difference.

    • @rawr51919
      @rawr51919 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Essentially what Kristoph Gavin was in the Ace Attorney series. He fooled everyone, and himself (in a way), and faced the consequences for it.

    • @mikea4464
      @mikea4464 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Best comment

    • @r2dezki
      @r2dezki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      One of my favorite memes.

    • @denoww9261
      @denoww9261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      What's this from? I recognise it from somewhere.

    • @szinnias
      @szinnias 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      deNoww getting over it

  • @GoblinLord
    @GoblinLord 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Henning seems less of a "I'm sorry I cheated" and more "I'm sorry I got caught" which I know the feeling of all too well so I can catch it easily

    • @co7769
      @co7769 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am just in awe at how everyone was sucking this guy’s dick. In other games, when a player is caught cheating they are almost banned for life but not this idiot for some reason. The people in charge of moderating things at that time were not absolute legends at all.

  • @avenged277693
    @avenged277693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Karl Jobst: "completely erased from history forever"
    Also Karl: tells the history in excruciating detail

    • @DJIncendration
      @DJIncendration 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      also Henning: unnecessarily removed.
      The times that were legit should have stayed on the leaderboards.

    • @stuntboy0372
      @stuntboy0372 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      ​@DJIncendration Imagine thinking that a person who consistently lies and manipulates people into thinking he's honest should have A fourth chance. Not saying the runs were cheated, but you don't look at someone who has a terrible track record and let them go just like that

    • @thehale_
      @thehale_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DJIncendrationSmartest default pfp

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@DJIncendration The thing is, when you cheat so many runs, one cannot in good faith assume that the rest of your runs are legit, especially if you're a skilled player. Every time he was given another chance, more faked runs were found

  • @ZachAttackIsBack
    @ZachAttackIsBack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +883

    GameShark; the performance-enhancing drug for speedrunners.

    • @EveryTimeV2
      @EveryTimeV2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Nah that's ritalin.

    • @tonygunk.
      @tonygunk. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No, if u want something weak drink like 4 redbulls

    • @chambeet
      @chambeet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      EveryTimeV2 I’m guessing you’re actually allowed to take Ritalin for speedruns, though?
      I used to play Guitar Hero competitively (I wasn’t actually very good, but I’d record my scores, etc.), and I also used to use drugs, and felt that taking certain drugs actually made me a better player, but I wouldn’t count scores when using them, since I felt like it was cheating to me.

    • @SalvageET
      @SalvageET 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I mean doping is not allowed in sports so I assume it also shouldn't be allowed in speedruns.

    • @jjgaming347
      @jjgaming347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Comedy gold :^)=)

  • @zyvan3179
    @zyvan3179 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2005

    Don't know why I'm watching this. Not interested in speed running or goldeneye but wtf I'll watch it

    • @asingularcheesepuff6383
      @asingularcheesepuff6383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      You and me both. Still interesting tho

    • @ryaquaza3offical
      @ryaquaza3offical 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I thought I was the only one tbh

    • @gav1nbeyond
      @gav1nbeyond 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      This is how they suck you in

    • @bergiTown69
      @bergiTown69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      m2! its just interesting isnt it? and well done video

    • @blessuu
      @blessuu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's crazy that's exactly how I entered the chat

  • @aplanenerdandagamenerd9087
    @aplanenerdandagamenerd9087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I love how all of his thumbnails look super clickbaity but actually mean something.

    • @Wayte13
      @Wayte13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's more like the legitimate "here's a non-obvious thing and I'm pointing it out" thumbnail is something clickbait tries to fake by having the arrows point to nothing

    • @aplanenerdandagamenerd9087
      @aplanenerdandagamenerd9087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Wayte13 I'm just saying they look like they *would* be clickbait.

  • @BigBrotherMateyka
    @BigBrotherMateyka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    *"Even trusted friends are capable of betrayal."*

  • @whirl3690
    @whirl3690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Even if he pressed A on the last possible frame, the weapon after unarmed is the PP7 anyway.

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      "He could've quickly entered the pause menu, switched tabs, switched weapons, then quickly hid it last second" F**KING LOL

    • @Rarok666
      @Rarok666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      peepee 7inches

    • @whirl3690
      @whirl3690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      walther's pp is k

  • @TriceratopsUnicorn
    @TriceratopsUnicorn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1223

    Shocked they let him stay after he faked evidence to prove himself innocent.
    Also that was a powerful outro

    • @TvShopOnTv
      @TvShopOnTv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      im shocked it took him so long to get everything removed, proven to be cheating 500 times apparently wasnt enough.

    • @gsp3987
      @gsp3987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Reminds me of how a lot of people defended Obama's, "like your doctor, keep your doctor," even though it's still a lie to this day. Some people are just completely blinded by their own biases.

    • @stevefox1200
      @stevefox1200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      @@gsp3987 Please don't, just don't

    • @gsp3987
      @gsp3987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@stevefox1200 You don't want to hear the truth, that's fine.

    • @JustAnotherPest
      @JustAnotherPest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      The mental gymnastics we'll run to defend someone because "I like him and I know he's really a good guy" or "at least he's not [person I don't like]" are as astounding as they are strong.

  • @Memz23
    @Memz23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    While this was a well put argument, I have to disagree on his runs being taken down having a negative effect on other speedrunners. If he is a cheat, getting him out of the community pretty much guarantees everyone else a more legitimate chance to compete. Personally, I think his first offense warranted the removal of all his records. Once a cheater, always a cheater. If he came back and had 100% verification of his new runs maybe we can talk, but everything before the incident is instantly discredited. When this first came to light, how many people do you think quit trying saying "If he can cheat, what chance do I have? I'm not willing to cheat, so I guess I should find a new hobby." I'm not trying to be mean, but fairness is all we have in competition. Without it, there can be no winner.

  • @renav.3239
    @renav.3239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Henning must have gotten really swole, moving the goalposts that often. "Okay i did THIS, but I didnt do THAT. Alright I did THAT, but I didn't do the OTHER thing"

  • @robertt9342
    @robertt9342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +604

    I am not part of any speed run community but I cannot understand how he wasn't removed and banned sooner. It wasn't a zero tolerance, it was like a 9 strike rule.

    • @nanakimurasaki
      @nanakimurasaki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      To put it in the simplest terms
      He was removed, lost all his records, lost all respect, lost all credibility to his runs.
      In other words banning the guy from the forum is no where near as harsh as what they did to him. He genuinely earned the right to be called a "cheater". If I was an admin in a community like that. I'd actually do the same and let them stay. The guy clearly was at least apologetic but only after being caught x amount of times. But not once did they show any obscene reaction from what we saw in the video. The guy was simply being a dumbass but wasn't bad enough to warrant a ban.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      TheNanakisan . Sounds like he got of easy given how people were talking about him with so much admiration.

    • @Nick-ce6lt
      @Nick-ce6lt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      It's cos he was a cool guy : )

    • @swapode
      @swapode 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Reminds me of doping in cycling, especially the whole Lance Armstrong story. It was pretty obvious that he was juiced up to superhuman levels but lots of people, from his fans to the highest officials, had interest in protecting the american cancer survivor super star. There's a couple of fascinating documentaries about all that on TH-cam, well worth a watch.
      Cycling also shows that a zero tolerance policy is the only way to go. No warnings, no temporary bans, nothing. Sadly they refuse to learn that lesson to this day, so the golden eye community is better than the UCI.

    • @dtester
      @dtester 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@nanakimurasaki Speaking from experience, you don't want to have this kind of person around. You will never be able to trust him. "They" didn't do anything...he did it to himself.

  • @Larry
    @Larry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2891

    The Billy Mitchell of Goldeneye speedrunners :D

    • @josiahmcgill638
      @josiahmcgill638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Hello, you fact hunt

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes, but Billy Mitchell can actually perform.

    • @lewisd5004
      @lewisd5004 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hello youuuu! Love your vids, Larry. Keep up the good work.

    • @ElroyJetson318
      @ElroyJetson318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I see you everywhere

    • @solidus4prez
      @solidus4prez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Larry I love how you watch and support many of the same youtubers I do. But, hello you!

  • @jackfables3470
    @jackfables3470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    And to say that, at that time, having cutscenes that actually change, depending on the player's actions, was such a novelty that many players actually finished levels multiple times : with different weapons, with different modes (such as fast or slow), with or without killing the enemies closest to the exit, with or without previously placed mines that would activate during those cinematics.
    So, how the hell could he imagine that no one would notice his end cutscene would not match the way he played ?

  • @luckydragonwolf
    @luckydragonwolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +418

    That last segment hit me hard.
    Why?
    I’m going to be completely honest:
    I was technically an art thief.
    I traced art and didn’t credit the original artists. Nobody seemed to notice or care, and 2 years after I had done it, I went back and confessed to tracery, showing the original artworks alongside the traced versions.
    This was on an obscure app which I won’t name here, but in the community I was accepted to post in an art tag which was meant for only the best artists on there. As time went on, I felt guilt for the traceries and knew, considering how the community is, that someone would eventually go back and find the traceries.
    My conscience was literally screaming at me, and finally I confessed.
    People actually took it well, and they appreciated my confession. I am still allowed to post in that art tag, and now the traceries are way behind me.
    Confessing before you’re even caught is the best way to go.

    • @stardust6004
      @stardust6004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      An Aldmeri Dominion Enforcer dude, everyone does things that they are not proud of later or don’t care about the possible consequences at the time of doing so. Nevertheless I’m happy of OPs decision to do the right thing later on and the reaction of the community shows again that an honest confession is the best thing to do most of the time. So no need to be offensive.

    • @omologo95
      @omologo95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Yes, confessing without being put under scrutiny is a respectful deed.

    • @luckydragonwolf
      @luckydragonwolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@420sakura1 no I was not, but how’s that related fo the topic?

    • @Bishtpd
      @Bishtpd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@luckydragonwolf according to the rules of anime in Asia you are not supposed to bring dishonor to your family

    • @seantaggart7382
      @seantaggart7382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah remember if you confess?
      You'll be spared

  • @doublechindoge7
    @doublechindoge7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1750

    when you mis-click, but it's a good vid.

    • @ITSMRFOXY
      @ITSMRFOXY 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Lmao frame perfect

    • @tiza3583
      @tiza3583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Trust me it will save more frames later

    • @thatguy811
      @thatguy811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lmao me too

    • @Xtremepoophead
      @Xtremepoophead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      420 likes my friend! You did it

    • @doublechindoge7
      @doublechindoge7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Xtremepoophead Thank you poop, very cool.

  • @Alexo670
    @Alexo670 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Some say Henning is still out there... alive in some form... drinking unicorn blood to become a legend like karl.

  • @PepperDoom
    @PepperDoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Henning: No one can fake speedruns as shamelessly as I do.
    Tavo: Hold my coke.

  • @xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427
    @xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    *I think we should trust him and keep all of his records. He seems like a pretty cool guy.*

  • @jeremykothe2847
    @jeremykothe2847 5 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    I'd be real suspicious of the people not wanting all his times removed. Do the people voting on this have any times themselves they're particularly proud of?

    • @hotpockets2224
      @hotpockets2224 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good ovservTion

    • @samharper5881
      @samharper5881 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Yup. These are people who don't value honesty, clearly.

    • @handsomebrick
      @handsomebrick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      Good call, actually. The-Elite is founded on competitiveness, the thrill of moving up the ranks as high as you can go and defending your position. You'd think it would be a black and white issue for them: that guy fakes his times, I don't fake my times, therefore his records should be all thrown in the trash and my records should move up. If they seem scared by the possibility that people caught cheating have all their times erased, something's up.

    • @DelRae
      @DelRae 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The flaws of social protection

    • @jizzwardo9653
      @jizzwardo9653 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's cause they liked him so they didn't want to see him banned.

  • @sodaddict
    @sodaddict 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This is an important lesson that i never take for granted: Patience brings the bigger reward
    Had Henning spent just a little extra time to perfecting his runs instead of splicing, he would not only be respected, but would have kept his hard work in the history books, and would have even learned something along the way.

  • @picklepastepete
    @picklepastepete 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The message at the end about being the best you that you can be was my favorite part of this video

  • @dustinschouest8405
    @dustinschouest8405 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I gotta say Karl, the speech at the end of your video had me feeling good.
    I am wanting to learn speed running, especially Goldeneye and the original RE titles. My times are absolute garbage compared to even decent runners but I keep trying.
    That message can go for any hobby. I'm an active fly fisherman. And I learned early I cant judge my own skill based on what I show others or how more experienced anglers see me. I make my own worth.
    Thanks for the amazing videos and entertainment Karl. Keep it up

  • @Perpetucake
    @Perpetucake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    The ending message of this video is stated incredibly well and I hope it inspires people to have honor in their speedrunning careers as well as their lives.

    • @mathprodigy
      @mathprodigy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed

    • @josiahmcgill638
      @josiahmcgill638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      >honor
      >speed running
      >career

    • @JamieTannerPresents
      @JamieTannerPresents 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you nailed it!
      this, unfortunately, is the tip of the iceberg.. cheaters gonna cheat and there's a whole lot of unchecked vids out there. I think live events is the only way. security watching the carts and consoles carefully

    • @Perpetucake
      @Perpetucake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JamieTannerPresents I don't think the youtube comments is a constructive place to continue the never-ending proof standards debate, and I've spoke on this topic at great length before in other places. I do want to stress managed expectations, however. The time required to complete these achievements is beyond unreasonable to have employed, unbiased, knowledgeable security at a live event monitoring hundreds of hours of runs. A counter-point stated against simply having live streamed, or even simply video captured is for accessibility- and statements like this are often used in the claim that improving proof standards is a slippery slope.
      This is why I stress honor and appreciation as deterrents and motivation for achieving goals. A strong, passionate community built on these ideals can go much farther (and grow much larger) than requiring a bunch of mostly hobbyist gamers travel across the country or world to sit in a room for days with security guards staring at them as they play a video game.

    • @thetruthwillout9094
      @thetruthwillout9094 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What lives? You obviously don't have one because your sat on your arse playing computer games all day.

  • @conflickt3130
    @conflickt3130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This guy after his first post: "I'm never gonna crack and tell the truth."
    Same guy 12 hours later: "I can't handle this, I gotta come clean!"

  • @briandietz9524
    @briandietz9524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I still come back to this video every so often because of the speech at the end, specifically the part starting at 13:34. Speedrunning aside, this is perfect advice for anything that comes up in life, and brought a tear to my eye. Thank you for this.

    • @zenmikey
      @zenmikey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gonna necro this comment and point out how much Aerith’s Theme adds to it.

  • @Hachiae
    @Hachiae 5 ปีที่แล้ว +717

    it it my ignorance on the speed running community, or does goldeneye have the most drama of any speedrunning group

    • @RedHairdo
      @RedHairdo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      Surprisingly, not even close.

    • @Hachiae
      @Hachiae 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@RedHairdo oh please tell

    • @kingjames4886
      @kingjames4886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +241

      there's a whole documentary about donkey kong drama...

    • @bbynmmyneedddy8954
      @bbynmmyneedddy8954 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Because all secret agents are a little bit dodgy

    • @hotpockets2224
      @hotpockets2224 5 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      Theres a bunch of drama about some guy who got an impossible completion time in an arcade drag racing game

  • @theendofit
    @theendofit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Catching a half decent cheater is alot harder then people think.
    If he just posted one or two of these hed probubly never have been caught. He had what 20+ faked times scattered around and even then it took 2 years to notice them all.
    This is another reason why all times must be thrown out there is no way to know for sure he did not cheat every single time.
    It may very well be that hes crap at golden eye and just a good editor and cheater. And only got caught due to the combination of posting way to many cheated times and geting lazy and complacent thinking it was easy to trick people why wast so much time making the fake times so perfect when no one will notice anyway.

    • @xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427
      @xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *thAn*

    • @ryanwalsh5019
      @ryanwalsh5019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Makes you wonder how many of records are faked, or if there are any that are legit. Seems like more of a competition as to who can cheat the most without getting caught.

    • @504gucci4
      @504gucci4 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryanwalsh5019 Patriots do the same thing , but they try to walk on the line where it's technically not in the rule, then the rule gets change and then they try something else

    • @vincevvn
      @vincevvn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s mind blowing how light on punishment cheaters get in speed running communities. That’s why so many people cheat because the worse that can happen is a slap on the wrist. So moronic

    • @youtube-kit9450
      @youtube-kit9450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, just a complete purge of any time pre-2015 or whatever that isn't a direct livestream, doesn't have video evidence, or isn't that demo stuff from doom.
      Standard is that speedrunners have to show their rig before they start up anything and have their hands and face and the recording visible at all times. You know, just the basic measures to make sure someone's not cheating.

  • @madgenus
    @madgenus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Removing the runs of a splicer who repeatedly lied "goes against the best interest of everyone else who continues to speedrun and uphold the INTEGRITY of the game." Yeah, sure.

  • @paonquinho
    @paonquinho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    12:29 Imagines Henning Blom praying at an altar and Ryan White falling from above with the Masamune aimed straight at Blom's heart.

  • @OfflineSetup
    @OfflineSetup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    "community": We hate cheaters, scum, Never trust a cheater, total outright BAN!!!!!!".
    "community": Ahh, yes, but, no, wait, yes, hold on, ....."
    Time and time this happens in all forums. It makes me suspicious of their integrity.

    • @corinabanu7556
      @corinabanu7556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Tbh the Doom community is the only one I've seen being consistent about this. They really won't take cheating from anyone.

    • @seantaggart7382
      @seantaggart7382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its like their "Integrity" disappeared from their soul

    • @Bourikii2992
      @Bourikii2992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What do you expect from a community of people that literally cheat to go fast through levels.

    • @SuperNerd000
      @SuperNerd000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Projection is a hell of a thing.

    • @fort809
      @fort809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@corinabanu7556 Minecraft too. The bedrock community completely banned Dream when he got caught cheating in the PC version, even knowing that he’d lie about them and that his fans would harass them to the end of time

  • @DanRamGim
    @DanRamGim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    Your ending got me in tears, I am having a difficult time in my life, but as you say I should not derive my self worth from what others have achieved, I must set my own goals and try and be satisfied of the effort I am making even if I am not the best. Thank you

    • @IntenseLizard
      @IntenseLizard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      it hit me as well, hope youre okay bro.

    • @martymcfly88mph35
      @martymcfly88mph35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Watch Jordan peterson man.

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martymcfly88mph35
      Lol! The irony of your avatar, while promoting Jordan Peterson, is absolutely hysterical with how ironic it is. You really don’t know enough about him, do you?

    • @martymcfly88mph35
      @martymcfly88mph35 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anti-ethniccleansing465 lol, what argument are you trying to start? "Dr Jordan Peterson is a communist"? Is that really it?

  • @jennyinutil2018
    @jennyinutil2018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    Damn the clickbait red arrows are totally legit here.

    • @justinquintela3369
      @justinquintela3369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It is

    • @ShotokunWulf
      @ShotokunWulf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice

    • @cringe__6040
      @cringe__6040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You have a trans "peoples" rights flag and a big bird profile pic so I do not care

    • @khirek5335
      @khirek5335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@cringe__6040 it's not a bird it's actually a giant dragon thingy that walks on 4 legs and has horns

    • @epkurnissheoway
      @epkurnissheoway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@cringe__6040 it's a kulve taroth from monster hunter.... also that sounds kinda transphobic ngl dunno why their pfp mattered

  • @jakeevara
    @jakeevara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's amazing how much time I spend on this channel, despite having no real interest in GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, or speedrunning in general. I just think Karl makes great, interesting content. 👍

  • @JoeVannoy
    @JoeVannoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I love the "darker side of speed running" videos. I think these are cautionary tales that need to be told.

  • @Dominick_twu
    @Dominick_twu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    I love how some of “the speed running community” was completely fine with someone cheating, with proof. However, if you’re a new/rising person in the ranks you are obviously faking it or cheating. It makes me sick how some of these people had no problem with Henning cheating then when someone new like Rayan starts submitting times back in the day he was vilified.
    Maybe it’s just me, but from what I’ve seen the “community” seems toxic as hell. It’s almost like you have to be born into this shit to be taken seriously. It’s a joke.

    • @JackTheripper911
      @JackTheripper911 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Thats why "the elite" is the most pathetic group of speedrunners on the internet

    • @catscanhavelittleasalami
      @catscanhavelittleasalami 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Humans are idiots. They'll give someone a pass just because "he's nice and popular guys"

  • @EdwardHowton
    @EdwardHowton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    8:40 I can't help but think "Sock accounts owned by Henning defending himself".

  • @markm734
    @markm734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's like in a court of law: once a witness is shown to be a liar, you have to throw out all of their testimony.

    • @borkerman
      @borkerman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your wrong, I played enough ace attorney to know you get them to keep testifying until it's discovered they didn't see what they saw or confess to the crime

  • @AndyYumYum
    @AndyYumYum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Aerith's Theme accompanied by the statement at the end was amazingly done!

  • @dannybowers8017
    @dannybowers8017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    This puts the entire speed runners community's credibility in question if their so willing to let a cheater keep his place in the records

    • @imaremi351
      @imaremi351 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      whiterottenrabbit
      *triggered*

    • @dannybowers8017
      @dannybowers8017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@whiterottenrabbit so angry over a simple "thier" i apologize for the sin of bad grammar

    • @sludgerat666
      @sludgerat666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@whiterottenrabbit dang.

    • @stephen3293
      @stephen3293 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@whiterottenrabbit hahahaha calm down

    • @FlokiTech
      @FlokiTech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@whiterottenrabbit Reeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • @evamiller4886
    @evamiller4886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I’d assume some of the accounts posting in his defense are him. Anyone willing to fake a world record speed run is more than capable of making a few alt accounts on a forum

    • @mccarthy5825
      @mccarthy5825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh for sure. I would absolutely believe that. Sure I've seen where some people have 'sleeper' alt accounts where they just pepper the Post history a bit and then all of a sudden these unknown accounts with a handful of random posts burst to life and start defending the person.

  • @someoneout-there2165
    @someoneout-there2165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that you're playing Donkey Kong Country music in the background. Definitely the best musical score for a game ever, it really gets you in the feels.

  • @jishatinkle7504
    @jishatinkle7504 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How can someone be a cool dude, if they’re being deceitful? The dude just kept on lying and cheating and admitting to it, yet people kept defending him. Is this some kind of cult of personality situation?

  • @AmoralTom
    @AmoralTom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The end speech goes well beyond the realm of speedrunning. It is admirable and I commend you for it

  • @kngpin41
    @kngpin41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Plot twist: Henning Blom is still speed running under another tag.

  • @Sextusheap
    @Sextusheap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never understood cheaters. Cheating in any game, even Minecraft , ruined the fun for me because I know its not me winning. Henning must be good at lying to himself.

  • @skatersirian
    @skatersirian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Clicked for the story, stayed for the life lesson.

  • @emailjwr
    @emailjwr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love how you played the Aeris death theme on when describing him being deleted 😂

  • @dankachilles9356
    @dankachilles9356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a year late Karl but the ending of your video moved me in a way that I both needed and didn't even see coming. Thank you Karl, a year later, from the bottom of my heart for your kind words. You have no idea how much I needed to hear those words.

  • @strawberrylemonadelioness
    @strawberrylemonadelioness ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really love seeing speed running clips from the early 2000s, it shows how much things have changed, and I love seeing VHS recordings of runs too. They add a certain feel to them.

  • @damonb2000
    @damonb2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The background music at 0:44 gave me a nostalgic stroke dude, I couldn't focus on the video anymore damn the flashbacks

  • @nappkins9346
    @nappkins9346 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Chrono Cross opening music. Most emotional track of all time. So apt. Great video Karl. Aeris 😢

    • @wesleyholcombe9609
      @wesleyholcombe9609 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I knew I wasn't crazy

    • @joaquinparodi1316
      @joaquinparodi1316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Chrono cross OST is AMAZING

    • @Morphineck
      @Morphineck 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks a lot for pointing put the game, I knew I had listened to it somewhere.

    • @chriswelcome8102
      @chriswelcome8102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wesleyholcombe9609 :'(

  • @Jabadamazo
    @Jabadamazo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Imagine vehemently denying accusations and saying "I have never faked a run" and then 12 HOURS LATER exposing YOURSELF. People are wild, man.

  • @LifeWithMatthew
    @LifeWithMatthew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just came across (and subbed to) your channel. I don't do speedruns but your breakdown on how they are accomplished and the sad stories of the cheaters are well done and fascinating!

  • @fucklinkingmyaccount
    @fucklinkingmyaccount 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your videos keep getting better Karl, keep up the great work.

  • @decrepitjew2572
    @decrepitjew2572 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "You absolute legends" has become a catch phrase like "my friends". Good work man, loved the vid.

  • @meystryke5255
    @meystryke5255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seen a few videos now. Thank you for making these. They're really nifty.

  • @TIRK125
    @TIRK125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    13:46 - 14:01. 15 seconds of pure wisdom. Thanks for being awesome, Karl

  • @GardinerBlue
    @GardinerBlue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Henning Blom: I swear I didn't fake any other times.
    Ryan White: I'm about to end this man's whole career.

    • @eisgnom7383
      @eisgnom7383 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have to always think of clue because of the names

    • @brianjensen5661
      @brianjensen5661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny cause Ryan got caught doing the same shit.

    • @usualunusualkid7149
      @usualunusualkid7149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianjensen5661 I'd like to read more about this

    • @eymed2023
      @eymed2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As Ryan put it himself: "It takes one to catch one".

    • @eymed2023
      @eymed2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brianjensen5661 Yes, both Ryan and Henning cheated runs on a frigate.
      The thing is, Ryan stopped cheating after he first got caught, and took it upon himself to write a new proof policy. He moved on and wanted GE leaderboards to be taken seriously. So after some reunion with other runners, they declared a new zero-tolerance proof policy.
      The thing about Henning is he never stopped lying no matter how many times he got caught. Heck, I dare say his BEHAVIOR was worse than his cheating.
      The best way I can put it is Henning didn't just cheat the game, he cheated his own fans. I'd argue he's more comparable to a lip-sync artist than a traditional cheater.

  • @etherealessence
    @etherealessence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How you win is just as important as winning. That's the lesson. This is the consequence.

  • @rainbowthrustars
    @rainbowthrustars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When the very first song in this video is the opening title of Chrono Cross its hard to not instant like this video :)
    Such a great song from one of the best j-rpg's ever made!

  • @PrimevalDemon
    @PrimevalDemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    scars of time! lovely and poetic choice of soundtrack considering the subject of discussion! been loving your videos and have been binging em this past week! very enjoyable and informative! a rare and delicate balance!

  • @krstrid
    @krstrid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I remember being so stoked for 24 seconds on runway back in I think 2001. Grenade tricks practiced to boost to airplane door

  • @ChromeDonutGaming
    @ChromeDonutGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the first time I'm watching a video from your channel and simply calling your viewers legends is awesome
    You got a new sub

  • @yves_23
    @yves_23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the inspirational message at the end there. Thank you, you absolute legend.

  • @kqrulz3000
    @kqrulz3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Every time I hear you call me a legend, it makes me feel great about myself. Instant like before the video even starts, as always. Thank you Karl!

  • @chuychongas
    @chuychongas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I subscribed, now I feel like an absolute legend

  • @StainedShuriken333
    @StainedShuriken333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That outro was great. Every person on the planet needs to hear something like that.

  • @CC_Th1rst
    @CC_Th1rst 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:29 - Man, that outro hit way harder than I imagined anything could to me right now... I'm extremely competitive by nature and my 2021 New Year's resolution is going to be that I will stop getting so frustrated and angry with myself, when I lose at video games, or feel like I underperform. I'm way too hard on myself because I always feel like I could have done better to the point where certain things stop becoming fun. The fact that I could sit down with myself and logically come to that conclusion, then the next completely random TH-cam video directly addresses everything I just thought about, is kind of ominous with the timing... You saying those kind words at the end, directly addressing what I was feeling, makes me feel better about my performances and validates me. I can't compare myself to other people.
    Keep up the good stuff brother. I hope you can help others out too.

  • @Lauren_Tyler
    @Lauren_Tyler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well said near the end. That part about setting one's own personal goals is important to remember.

  • @dept-7443
    @dept-7443 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Two arrows? Shit, this is gonna be good!!

  • @pauljamieson9908
    @pauljamieson9908 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you very much for sharing, Karl. You absolute legend 👍☺

  • @celineawproductions
    @celineawproductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is still one of my favorite Karl Jobst videos. The speech at the end is some serious words of wisdom. Would go along way to have it be more of a standard and pushed idea in the speed-running community. Love you Jobst, you're awesome.

  • @TheHunters_Wall
    @TheHunters_Wall 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty late but found this channel late as well.. and couldn't agree more. Competition sure can be hard in all ways of competition. And is sad when someone that has so much potential falls for their own feet. The last part when you say how sad it is when someone is pretty much gone from history is moving. And pretty much sums up how sad it is to see people fall and is gone..

  • @bluediamonddirector
    @bluediamonddirector 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Keep up with the videos dude, I really enjoy them. You absolute legend!

  • @SirFfuzzy
    @SirFfuzzy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That last bit was some of the best motivational stuff I've heard in a while. If you write a book, let me know

  • @Lowebotz
    @Lowebotz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I hope that Henning has genuinely learned from his mistakes and has moved forward.

    • @stronglift1873
      @stronglift1873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Legends has it he's still faking speedruns. But with another name

    • @Enigma1788
      @Enigma1788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Highly doubtful. Dude got caught time and time again, and yet he kept doing it. People like that never fucking learn.

    • @madvtecyo546
      @madvtecyo546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People like him don’t. And his actions show it

    • @jasonmartinez5116
      @jasonmartinez5116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Henning likely retired after his ban

    • @oneandonlyjaybee
      @oneandonlyjaybee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Moved forward, whilst going diagonally and looking at the floor

  • @machineofadream
    @machineofadream 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Okay it's been like 8 years now. Maybe we can reinstate his times since he's a pretty cool guy.

    • @VelkanAngels
      @VelkanAngels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@levieverhart8640 - Pretty sure he is, lol.

  • @vigs_
    @vigs_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the music in this video Karl ❤️😁
    Much Love from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @raamzilla
    @raamzilla 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd recognise that track any where, the good ole GTA V Pause music. Nice pick, Karl

  • @Bigben154
    @Bigben154 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just wanted to say, thank you so much for your amazing videos man! You even gotten me interested in trying out some speed running in the original DOOM!

  • @mustanggt33
    @mustanggt33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That moment when I learned that I was suddenly ranked 6th instead of 7th lol :)

  • @stepheng8061
    @stepheng8061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those last 2 minutes
    I actually teased up a bit. Thank you Karl

  • @thebeyonder8814
    @thebeyonder8814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To this day, Hennings is still confessing.

  • @Kywool2K
    @Kywool2K 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not gonna lie man, I've been going through some strong self-doubts and not really feeling like I'm going anywhere in life but your last line in here really hit home. I'm gonna start doing what's best for me and live my life and my goals. I'm going to try and be happy and proud of my own accomplishments. Thank you.

  • @Elab2369
    @Elab2369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am not sure but I love hearing your voice and listening to all of these speed runs . Thank you

  • @vladtheimpaler8552
    @vladtheimpaler8552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "I've faked 30 maybe even 40 runs, I guess I'm a pretty sick guy." - Henning Blom

  • @vasopel
    @vasopel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    after watching various videos about how video game record cheaters were found I have learned one thing,
    they just don't know how to edit audio!

  • @caseysanchez5303
    @caseysanchez5303 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn bro made me tear up a lil at the end. Keep being awesome Karl

  • @mikeveroni
    @mikeveroni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That gta music u have is so good gives me goosebumps. Your the absolute legend!