These DOOM Cheaters Were Caught Red Handed
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"I have little free time"
>writes a thesis in a forum post
The dude should write a book if he has that little free time and a fairly good skillset in writing bullshit :D
@@BPKPhoenix He could write for Scientology.
@@dsandoval9396 plot twist. He is L. Ron Hubbard
That took as much as 15 mins. Hyperbole is not your thing.
MrSocialdeviance hello player K!
"I have little free time"
>Writes a Harry Potter novel long statement
J.K. Rowling would kill to have such an amazing imagination as this guy does lol
Has little time, yet he does speedruning. hmmmm.
Read another book
I would like this comment but it's at 666 likes
King Asparagoose go to hell
Forum Mods: "Dude...it looks like you're cheating"
K: "A plague on both your houses!!"
True
“They have made worm’s meat of me.”
HOLY SHIT THIS MADE ME LAUGH SO MYCH THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY DAY
"The cheat may not be as deep as a well or as big as a church door but it'll do. Ask for me tomorrow and you'll find me banned"
He bit his thumb at the forum mods
How would you react if you where caught cheating
a) Admit Defeat
b) Go Down 'Kicking And Screaming'
c) Play The Fool / Completely Ignore The Accusation
d) Summon The Ghost Of Shakespeare Himself To Defend You
yes
Or be like dream : hide behind his stans and his friends while exploiting minors (stans on his response video)
If I ever do cheat, I would choose a.
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodcl4824 I'd say that qualifies as b/c
d) Who would not want fucking Shakespeare to defend you! (a. really)
"I didn't cheat, now I must go, my planet needs me."
WheelchairGamer lmao
While you do have a point (being accused of cheated would suck.) He also didn't defend himself, he instantly just went "oh your just jealous" and used that supposed jealousy as an excuse to just sidestep the accusation. I'm not a speedrunner, let alone part of the Doom SR community so I have no idea how you can defend yourself against accusations of cheating. but the fact he didn't even try, just claimed jealousy and left is a big red flag for me. Plus, you know, was just making a joke.
This might be a personal thing but yes, if I knew I innocent I'd fight tooth and nail to prove it. I know I'm not everyone, but I wouldn't let my reputation go down in flames like that.
If I could walk away with my head held high after slapping my accuser with the truth? Yes. Because the only way you're going to stop the gatekeepers is by showing that they're wrong. It might be tough, it might not even make the desired impact. But for me, it would be worth it.
Jimmy De'Souza how is providing clear evidence the player is cheating just ‘public opinion’?
Her: Babe, can you take out the trash?
Me: You humor me greatly with your arrogance and contempt.
ahhahaah this got me, thanks
*About to pay for groceries*
"Is there anything else you'd like, sir?"
"You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt."
loool
@Young Tyler no one gives a shit
a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect. I feel both disappointment and flattery these thoughts would originate from another player who has demonstrated one of a kind talent and has accomplished the impossible, yet is apparently immune from judgement owing to their reputation, do not think your words hold more credibility just because of who you are, being more well known and what you have accomplished in breaking world records and setting ones never previously accomplished, such as with TNT and Plutonia Nightmare. With that being said I will divulge my thoughts on the serious accusations you have set forth. I won't address the individual gameplay scenarios you've highlighted, as the foundation of your argument arises from jealously, this is clear when you contrast my success with your failure, being deluded into thinking you should have surpassed these trials yet cannot absolutely comprehend how someone else can claim victory on a consistent basis, instead I will address my playing ability. You know nothing about who I am or my history with this game, I am exceptionally talented not only at Doom, but other oldschool FPS along with videogames in general. I make speedruns and partake in Ironman out of passion for the game, it is a personal challenge in testing my playing ability to overcome arduous odds, I play for fun, it's about me vs the game and I hold no strong competitive urge or desire to be known as the best, reputation and status are not important to me but having fun is essential. Are you serious when you can't believe someone can beat an Ironman consistently? It's just playing the game without saving or loading, do you not have a fundamental understanding of the core gameplay and how to the play game correctly? Am I the only one who can play aggressively, with an intuitive and innate ability to bend the game to their will and not panic when in a dire situation, but with tactical genius aware of my surroundings and dexterous reflexes can act in the heat of battle and overcome arduous odds? When you highlight cases of RNG, I honestly don't think about it that deeply, I'm confident in what I'm doing, I'll make a risky move and hold strong with faith. I laugh at your baseless accusations of slowdown in reference to Stardate, I'm sure other skilled players such as Mrzzul and Nevanos could playthrough Stardate casually withour prior practice or saving and get just as far. Also bear in mind that I have died in several Ironmans before, do you honestly think their was demo manipulation there? You also demonstrate your ignorance very clearly when you admit you haven't watched my Ironman demos in full, and by watching I do mean actually studying them and assessing each scenario, bearing in mind my experience and ability at Doom which is extradonary, not skipping to a random moment and making up fabrications based on your own failures thinking oh it's impossible, their is no way any player could accomplish that. I do make mistakes, sometimes crucial ones, this is also reflected if you studied my speedruns which are far from perfect and have flaws such as missing shots, awkward movement and poor dodging, however a key skill I have is not panicing when low on health or when the circumstance is dire. Well guess what, I'm one of a kind, no one can play the game like me, every talented player and speedrunner has their own strengths and weaknesses that make them stand out. I am deluded when you suggest someone must have prior knowledge to stand a chance of victory at Ironman. Well look at Demon of the Well, he's not a speedrunner but is known for making FDAs both blind and familiar, he has an exceptional ability at conquering maps on his first attempt, the most prominent example I can think of is rdwpa's MuMe.wad. Does that mean he cheats? Certainly not, he's a talented player who obviously has a high level of playing ability. You also have j4rio and 0xfooba who have accomplished amazing demos that haven't been set before, with the former tysons that should be impossible and the latter UV-Maxes on some the hardest maps devised and speedrun movies of Sunlust. So why would you think my speedruns are cheated, when their are fellow speedrunners who have demonstrated extraordinary playing ability, do not stream and have surpassed my demos? As I certainly have never accussed anyone else of cheating, but respect their accomplishment and admire their tenacity at conquering very hard maps and goals. I have not shown jealously or malice towards fellow speedrunners who have surpassed my demos but silently congratulate and admire their accomplishment, in some cases publicly such as when Ancalagon went back and re-ran Combat Shock in response to when I beat his old runs. I do not look at speedrunning with a competitive eye, thinking I must have the record and surpass my competitor, instead my view is a cooperative one, it's us speedrunners against the game, building on one another's ideas and talent when a new record is set, complementing each other's unique strengths and weaknesses. My question would be why are you accusing and targetting me specifically? I can see from the depths of your arrogance, you believe with absolute certainty you are correct and I must be a cheater with any form of rebuttal being null and void. Well let me state clearly I have nothing to gain, why would I cheat at Ironman when I have pubically stated previously I do not care about winning or if a fellow player surpasses me, this is just fun to me. For speedruns, what would be the purpose in cheating as it's a personal challenge to me, I want to demonstrate to myself I've got the skill and talent to conquer very hard maps, it's about me against the game and I don't feel jealously at a fellow speedrunner who has beaten my record. I make speedruns out of passion and love for the game and not for admiration or self flattery, as long as Andy accepts the demo for DSDA that's all I care about. I am not going to stream as I do not care for an audience and am not influenced by the accusations of an envious stranger. I only streamed briefly for a short time in the past out of curiosity, but it does not interest me nor do I feel passion for it. I haven't watched Twitch in over a year, I was drawn to it in my spare time during the short period prior to my first full time job after finishing my studies. My life has changed a lot in the past two years and their are far more important aspects in life which draw my attention, I have little free time as well. Also you must be very self-conscious if you honestly think one has to stream their demo to demonstrate they aren't cheating, that just indicates your disrespect and distrust towards other players with exceptional playing ability, you'll never be a talented survivalist like me :) Let me make it clear I don't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks of me, when I am passionate about a subject I will speak my mind truthfully even if it means being brash at times, both online and in real life, I won't be intimidated by anyone and will confront them with assertion and confidence. I'm here for fun, making speedruns and commenting on subjects once in a while which capture my eye. Thank you for revealing your true colors, seething with jealously and enveloped by arrogance, you've lost what respect I had for you. If you've come to your senses you will offer an apology, take a good luck in the mirror before you make such a disgusting accusation against a fellow Doom player, who has not caused strife and discord but shows humility and respect with a care free attitude, or will you continue this charade and repeat history, replicating the case of Okuplok? If you do continue to accuse, it will be solely for my amusement as I will not take you seriously and will likely ignore you. Choose wisely
"Player K" really turned into a rambling psuedo-intellectual anime antagonist when he got caught cheating
That has an incredibly long monologue that occupies half an episode.
As mortals, we just cant understand the genius of Player K
Player K, more like BK lmao. Pause the video at 11:43 when it's fading out
Man responses like that really showcase the guy's humility and carefree attitude
@@IsaSaien "U jealous lol, anyway I'm but a humble player..."
Girlfriend: "I'm pregnant!"
Player K: "I feel both disappointment and flattery."
Girlfriend 10 months later: "Hey, you need to help with the baby too, quit hacking that game."
Player K: "You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect."
@@phud420 Girlfriend 2 years later: I’m leaving you because you spend all your time “speedrunning” Doom instead of taking care of our child.
Him: You know nothing about who I am or my history with this game.
This is false he would never get laid
He laughs at your baseless accusation.
@@obiwancannoli1920 And yet, brainless assholes like this can manage to attract desirable women. If they weren't somehow still in the game like that, us nicer guys wouldn't find them quite so frustrating.
"You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt" is my new stock phrase for arguments online. Pure gold right there.
It's to cheaters what the navy seal sniper copypasta is to internet tough guys.
that is a snob's way of saying "u mad"
@@Sercil00 ... what???
that has meaning but it was lost in an incoherent text
@Gabriel Klenner increasingly verbose
sounds like a jojo line lol
“Someone accused me of cheating, time to have the monks write me a response.”
Shakespeare monks for sure... 🤪
Almost ruined the 69 likes
Ayumi Gust-Anderson grow up
God be quiet you don’t go in the internet looking for maturity
kyle the dued ok here my lie people love you
Funny how Player K doesn’t have a lot of time to play doom,but has time to write a Renaissance era letter trying to challenge the character of one of the worlds best Doom speedrunners who has no reason to lie.
Lol 😂
You humor me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations borne out of the poison of envy and smite of disrespect
He has no reason to lie, but he COULD be wrong. That's different. ZeroMaster himself wrote: "I have no idea if your demos on DSDA are cheated, I personally believe they aren't despite being completely convinced your ironmans are, but only you truly know. (...) there is no doubt to me that your ironman history is far far more impressive than my final doom nightmare demos or any other achivement in doom, if it was genuine."
It's a suspicious case, but there's no bulletproof evidence actually.
Does thou dare doubt the virtuous K? Nay, nay villainous Gault, is thine own poisonous envy that makes thee plead so. Dare thee smite him with thine own disrespect? Then it is thee that must look into the mirror and see there something most foul!
Same with how he had little time and yet always had managed to reliable not only participate in but when just about every challenge until he gets called out for it....
This makes me want to submit speedruns where I beat the world record by 1 second. People then play the demo or video and see that I noclipped straight to the exit but didn't know exactly where the exit was.
"It wasn't noclip, guys, he just has a really good gaming chair!"
DO IT
DO IT FOR THE VINE
Do it backwards so you can say you just did a BLJ
At least you’ll know that anyone accusing you of cheating is just jealous.
No wait even better, submit a two and a half hour speed run of you no clipping but not knowing where the exit is. The 'speed run' ends with you putting a jpeg of the winning screen on as you just walk away from your PC.
"I don't have time!"
Proceeds to make a wall of text
Yea i like see those people on youtube, i dont have time to write this now, but its just so funny how they want to explain something to you and they write a wall of text, but i could be explained by two words, its so hilarious and funny i really dont have any time now left, but i think those people could just explain it the simplest way so we dont waste time on reading okay, right? I dont have time to reply anymore because its late in my country so i need to go bye bye bye bye
Reinhold B. Heh, good one
yare yare daze...
I don't have the time but..
..You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect. I feel both disappointment and flattery these thoughts would originate from another player who has demonstrated one of a kind talent and has accomplished the impossible, yet is apparently immune from judgement owing to their reputation, do not think your words hold more credibility just because of who you are, being more well known and what you have accomplished in breaking world records and setting ones never previously accomplished, such as with TNT and Plutonia Nightmare. With that being said I will divulge my thoughts on the serious accusations you have set forth.
I won't address the individual gameplay scenarios you've highlighted, as the foundation of your argument arises from jealously, this is clear when you contrast my success with your failure, being deluded into thinking you should have surpassed these trials yet cannot absolutely comprehend how someone else can claim victory on a consistent basis, instead I will address my playing ability. You know nothing about who I am or my history with this game, I am exceptionally talented not only at Doom, but other oldschool FPS along with videogames in general. I make speedruns and partake in Ironman out of passion for the game, it is a personal challenge in testing my playing ability to overcome arduous odds, I play for fun, it's about me vs the game and I hold no strong competitive urge or desire to be known as the best, reputation and status are not important to me but having fun is essential.
Are you serious when you can't believe someone can beat an Ironman consistently? It's just playing the game without saving or loading, do you not have a fundamental understanding of the core gameplay and how to the play game correctly? Am I the only one who can play aggressively, with an intuitive and innate ability to bend the game to their will and not panic when in a dire situation, but with tactical genius aware of my surroundings and dexterous reflexes can act in the heat of battle and overcome arduous odds? When you highlight cases of RNG, I honestly don't think about it that deeply, I'm confident in what I'm doing, I'll make a risky move and hold strong with faith. I laugh at your baseless accusations of slowdown in reference to Stardate, I'm sure other skilled players such as Mrzzul and Nevanos could playthrough Stardate casually withour prior practice or saving and get just as far. Also bear in mind that I have died in several Ironmans before, do you honestly think their was demo manipulation there?
You also demonstrate your ignorance very clearly when you admit you haven't watched my Ironman demos in full, and by watching I do mean actually studying them and assessing each scenario, bearing in mind my experience and ability at Doom which is extradonary, not skipping to a random moment and making up fabrications based on your own failures thinking oh it's impossible, their is no way any player could accomplish that. I do make mistakes, sometimes crucial ones, this is also reflected if you studied my speedruns which are far from perfect and have flaws such as missing shots, awkward movement and poor dodging, however a key skill I have is not panicing when low on health or when the circumstance is dire. Well guess what, I'm one of a kind, no one can play the game like me, every talented player and speedrunner has their own strengths and weaknesses that make them stand out.
I am deluded when you suggest someone must have prior knowledge to stand a chance of victory at Ironman. Well look at Demon of the Well, he's not a speedrunner but is known for making FDAs both blind and familiar, he has an exceptional ability at conquering maps on his first attempt, the most prominent example I can think of is rdwpa's MuMe.wad. Does that mean he cheats? Certainly not, he's a talented player who obviously has a high level of playing ability. You also have j4rio and 0xfooba who have accomplished amazing demos that haven't been set before, with the former tysons that should be impossible and the latter UV-Maxes on some the hardest maps devised and speedrun movies of Sunlust. So why would you think my speedruns are cheated, when their are fellow speedrunners who have demonstrated extraordinary playing ability, do not stream and have surpassed my demos? As I certainly have never accussed anyone else of cheating, but respect their accomplishment and admire their tenacity at conquering very hard maps and goals.
I have not shown jealously or malice towards fellow speedrunners who have surpassed my demos but silently congratulate and admire their accomplishment, in some cases publicly such as when Ancalagon went back and re-ran Combat Shock in response to when I beat his old runs. I do not look at speedrunning with a competitive eye, thinking I must have the record and surpass my competitor, instead my view is a cooperative one, it's us speedrunners against the game, building on one another's ideas and talent when a new record is set, complementing each other's unique strengths and weaknesses.
My question would be why are you accusing and targetting me specifically? I can see from the depths of your arrogance, you believe with absolute certainty you are correct and I must be a cheater with any form of rebuttal being null and void. Well let me state clearly I have nothing to gain, why would I cheat at Ironman when I have pubically stated previously I do not care about winning or if a fellow player surpasses me, this is just fun to me. For speedruns, what would be the purpose in cheating as it's a personal challenge to me, I want to demonstrate to myself I've got the skill and talent to conquer very hard maps, it's about me against the game and I don't feel jealously at a fellow speedrunner who has beaten my record. I make speedruns out of passion and love for the game and not for admiration or self flattery, as long as Andy accepts the demo for DSDA that's all I care about.
I am not going to stream as I do not care for an audience and am not influenced by the accusations of an envious stranger. I only streamed briefly for a short time in the past out of curiosity, but it does not interest me nor do I feel passion for it. I haven't watched Twitch in over a year, I was drawn to it in my spare time during the short period prior to my first full time job after finishing my studies. My life has changed a lot in the past two years and their are far more important aspects in life which draw my attention, I have little free time as well. Also you must be very self-conscious if you honestly think one has to stream their demo to demonstrate they aren't cheating, that just indicates your disrespect and distrust towards other players with exceptional playing ability, you'll never be a talented survivalist like me :)
Let me make it clear I don't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks of me, when I am passionate about a subject I will speak my mind truthfully even if it means being brash at times, both online and in real life, I won't be intimidated by anyone and will confront them with assertion and confidence. I'm here for fun, making speedruns and commenting on subjects once in a while which capture my eye.
Thank you for revealing your true colors, seething with jealously and enveloped by arrogance, you've lost what respect I had for you. If you've come to your senses you will offer an apology, take a good luck in the mirror before you make such a disgusting accusation against a fellow Doom player, who has not caused strife and discord but shows humility and respect with a care free attitude, or will you continue this charade and repeat history, replicating the case of Okuplok? If you do continue to accuse, it will be solely for my amusement as I will not take you seriously and will likely ignore you. Choose wisely.
@@lexian5602 clearly you hadnt time.. so did i
"I'm not going to address anything you said, but you're wrong." Solid argument.
Don't forget to bring up bad character.
"Also, you are arrogant, so let me explain to you in great detail the extent of my incredible unsurpassed excellence."
@@rookievideos8865 "You've caused much discord and strife in the community, while I have been humble with plenty of humility."
Also I have no time with plenty of other things to do, so let me reply with a short novel
Just saying
This is a guarenteed way to make someone assmad in an arguement.
“K’s response was actually pretty typical for confirmed cheaters. He attacked Zeromaster’s character, and accused him of being jealous...he dodged the actual grievances that are laid out, and didn’t attempt to explain the anomalies at all.”
Jesus the resemblance to Dream’s recent response is actually uncanny.
Maybe Karl will make a vid about Dream one day too
Who's Dream?
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine A huge Minecraft TH-camr, makes great content and is also a speedrunner. Minecraft speedruns are extremely RNG heavy, the Mods recently noticed that either Dream is the luckiest man in human history, or modified the drop rates for critical items to get his record.
Come to think of it I've never seen K and Dream in the same room before.
@@Horny_Fruit_Flies It’s pretty certain he cheated. Even if every human in history played 6 Minecraft speedruns a second for 100 years they wouldn’t get that luck.
K: “I have little free time”
Also K: _writes a 7000 word essay about how he didn’t cheat_
Seems legit
K: “I have little free time”
Also K: writes a 7000 word essay about how he didn't cheat
Seems legit
What a wise decision. Wanting to cheat on a sector where everything can be understood frame-accurately and, above all, deterministically. It's unbelievable how incredibly arrogant and at the same time how unworldly and stupid some people are. ... and the icing on the cake is that they think they can get away with it:)
I have to admit that these psychos have balls ... and the brain, including the foresight, of a housefly. Hehehe
@@dieSpinnt well they do have balls alright. Balls of fail.
Imagine playing Doom in slow motion just to get credibility on a dial-up internet forum.
Desire of fame make people think irrational. That's why we had those useless clout chaser.
Hahaha
From the perspective of otherwise having to play the same level(s) hundreds of times for the better part of a year I can understand why somebody would try and take a shortcut to such a weak prize, especially since the only penalties are social, and the people doing the cheating may not have very significant social ties with those whom they are trying to fool. Succeeding in fooling someone can feel like the real prize to certain types of people.
@SharkTH The bar for pledging to kill somebody on the internet has never been all that high.
@@northpenguins Or who could just leave where?
Q: What's the last dude's favorite dinosaur?
A: A thesaurus.
Zing!
Ba-dum tsss :-)
The funny thing is he tries to come across as some kind of superior intellect with the way he forms his response... yet every single time he tries to write "there" he uses "their."
@@Macephtopheles He says "take a good luck in the mirror"
A thesaurus is not a dinosaur
The fact that K goes full pseudo-Shakespeare but doesn't actually know how to use commas, misses them all the time, and comma splices all the way through is so funny to me. Fucking amazing.
Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed and I am bad at English.
He also incorrectly uses the word "humor." He is thinking of the noun forum of humor, not the verb form, which means something else entirely. The word he was looking for is "amuse."
He misses his commas because he can't place them in slow-motion.
he spliced his own rant
@@Winasaurus lmao this got a good laugh out of me
How can they know whether or not it’s real if there’s no face cam to record whether or not they’re drinking coke and eating pizza?
Nice reference
and a heart rate monitor that stays exactly the same the whole time?
Ikr! It's a must for speedrunning. Can you even call yourself a speedrunner without your trusty coke and pizza slice by your side?
i remember this.....i dont know from where tho
i remember the name "badabun". Just that.
@@AVI-lh6rm Nah, the heart monitor cycled between 98 BPM and 105 BPM
"I have little free time" *last post ever made* I guess he wasnt kidding
he spent all his remaining free time in life writing that copypasta
Underrated coment
@@andressebastian5734 It's okay. I gave the 1000th like, it's officially not underrated anymore.
K's post is the funniest thing I've read in a long time -- my new favourite copypasta. Great video!
Look! It's an Ultimate Ledgend!
Oh hai decino
10 paragraphs of bullshit. It’s beautiful.
And nowhere in the wall of text does he actually say he didn’t cheat.
Aha yes the decino legend
I love how some people "have no time" to make a cheated run but they absolutely have the time to master a game to the point of breaking world records.
Co-Worker: Hey, did you eat my Yoghurt?
Doom-Cheater: Woe is me! You too, Brutus?! Alas thyne shroud had been lifted to reval the disfigured visage of hatred and jelousy. You reek of anger and failure. Thus you lash out! At me no less! A character so begine and accomplished. My merits stand forthemselves. A champion of humanity am I, beset by all sides by lesser men who revel in their mediocraty. I have bested greater opponents than you ever dared to set you gaze on. I have stood in the breach countless times and have met challenges that would have turned your hair white in a heartbeat! And still you dare to accuse me?!
Co-Worker: DUDE! You are still holding the empty container and there are drops on your shirt!
Doom-Cheater: DON`T CHANGE THE TOPIC!
“I have little free time”
>Writes a 10 paragraph essay in a Doom forum because he was accused of cheating.
"how dare you sully my reputation, you rapscallion. I'll have you know I was a former Navy Marines Colonel with a sniper record of 50 bull's-eye hits at 1,000 feet. I also have 6 black belts in multiple arts and I also took an IQ test which put me in the high 160s so I don't have the time for your small, insignificant, and jealous falsehoods about my record."
This is what cheaters sound like.
Cheaters, incels, "nice guys", and other various fedora wearing trolls.
@SyntaxError 999 Unless you are a mafioso or tying to hide your idetity or have a concealed weapon you shouldn’t wear a fedora.
"Thanks for the personal info, see you at 2 am next Friday."
What didst thou just utter to humour me greatly, thou envy-poisoned swine? As we speak, mine obfuscated conglomerate of secretaries are frantically attempting to allocate space in my busy schedule to address thine flood of accusations. I wouldst not sink to the folly of employing cheats, for it would smother the flame in my heart that yearns to test mine humble skill at the craft of DOOM. This fiery heart beats not for petty renown and glory from addlepatted simpletons, as thy heart doest, but true mastery. My eyes now see a fool in the mirror, for once, my soul was illuminated with respect and admiration for thee, my calumniator. Thou hast shedded thine mask and exposed thy true visage.
If thou can muster even a modicum of honor, thou shallst withdraw thine malicious defamation of mine character. Chooseth wisely, kiddo.
Yep
I remember Steffan's nightmare run from '96. His slow movement stood out, but at the time I naively thought it only proved his superhuman cold-bloodedness and self control.
I mean it's possible that the slow movement could have been a new strat or something, just happens that it wasnt
@@someguywhocanfly Something that's not mentioned in this video (presumably because it's something you would only know if you were in the Doom community at the time) is that it's never been proven that Stefan intentionally/consciously cheated. That may sound odd to some people however due to being the Crysis of it's day Doom & Doom II actually ran slower on a PC that met the games minimum requirements than they did on a brand new top end machine, simply put the game didn't originally have a standardized speed. This actually lead to arguments at the time about weather the people with average PCs were playing in slow motion or if the people with $2000 PCs were playing in turbo. Obviously the community settled on the engines capped speed being correct and any laggy demos were disregarded as happened to Stefan.
@@llynellyn I'll also add that slow, stiff movement like that can easily happen if someone is using keyboard-only controls, which some people (myself included) did because they didn't have a mouse for some reason or another.
@@MakazitheHyena my first thought seeing this was that he was a keyboard only player
@@llynellyn Damn, yeah, hadn't occured to me when i saw the video, but this could really be the case, that, combined with possibly being a keyboard-only player could lead to that slow style of gameplay.
I've run Doom, ROTT and Duke nukem in subpar speeds as well back when i was playing in the very first computers available to me as a kid, and i remember duke nukem in particular being almost completely unplayable, which i assumed was just me being bad at the new game i just got, but later on when i got myself a much faster machine, it turns out the game was fine and it was just way too choppy to be played properly.
But then... it's difficult to react properly when the machine you're playing on is suffering to render a frame (and respond to inputs), so idk how that Stefan guy managed to get all those perfect dodges in a sluggish outdated pc, potentially using nothing but a keyboard.
Guess we'll never know what really happened.
Karl, I gotta say. You humor me greatly with this amazing content, a flood of information born from meticulous research, passion and respect.
Had us in the first half ngl
Yes just yes
There it should be a new category: Speedcheaters.
Speed cheaters with slow ass responses to being caught
Not TAS, but also Not Not TAS
But let them have an own site, to not join in with actually experienced gamers.
Speedcheat(dot)com or such XD
Would be very boring, not dying and flying over enemies in other games and such, haha!
@Fran 189 Why not short? Like "Cheat%"... hope their partners will not take it the wrong way!
@@ECWPlays TES: Tool Enhanced Speedrun
That speach in the end sounds exactly like Todd Rogers LOL
@@terribleusername It would apply to both honestly
Reminds me Danish goldeneye runner that went full jrpg villain on the elite forum
@@terribleusername except that its lacking a lawsuit against everyone in the immediate area.
Todd's was more pathetic sounding: "I won't reveal how I did 5 point 51 seconds because the Internet was mean to me." The wall of text in this video is much more like Silly Bitchell.
would be quite the twist if one of them really did try their luck at the doom community
Anyone: "Aye bro this don't look right, I'd like an explanation on how you pulled this off."
The next fucking Shakespeare apparently: "Mom! Where did you put my list of racial slurs? Threw them away?!? Bah, then fetch me my thesaurus."
Anyone: "Are you going to reply back? If not, we'll be forced to remove your runs from the forum."
K: "You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect. I feel both disappointment and flattery these thoughts would originate from another player who has demonstrated one of a kind talent and has accomplished the impossible, yet is apparently immune from judgement owing to their reputation, do not think your words hold more credibility just because of who you are, being more well known and what you have accomplished in breaking world records and setting ones never previously accomplished, such as with TNT and Plutonia Nightmare. With that being said I will divulge my thoughts on the serious accusations you have set forth. I won't address the individual gameplay scenarios you've highlighted, as the foundation of your argument arises from jealously, this is clear when you contrast my success with your failure, being deluded into thinking you should have surpassed these trials yet cannot absolutely comprehend how someone else can claim victory on a consistent basis, instead I will address my playing ability. You know nothing about who I am or my history with this game, I am exceptionally talented not only at Doom, but other oldschool FPS along with videogames in general. I make speedruns and partake in Ironman out of passion for the game, it is a personal challenge in testing my playing ability to overcome arduous odds, I play for fun, it's about me vs the game and I hold no strong competitive urge or desire to be known as the best, reputation and status are not important to me but having fun is essential. Are you serious when you can't believe someone can beat an Ironman consistently? It's just playing the game without saving or loading, do you not have a fundamental understanding of the core gameplay and how to the play game correctly? Am I the only one who can play aggressively, with an intuitive and innate ability to bend the game to their will and not panic when in a dire situation, but with tactical genius aware of my surroundings and dexterous reflexes can act in the heat of battle and overcome arduous odds? When you highlight cases of RNG, I honestly don't think about it that deeply, I'm confident in what I'm doing, I'll make a risky move and hold strong with faith. I laugh at your baseless accusations of slowdown in reference to Stardate, I'm sure other skilled players such as Mrzzul and Nevanos could playthrough Stardate casually withour prior practice or saving and get just as far. Also bear in mind that I have died in several Ironmans before, do you honestly think their was demo manipulation there? You also demonstrate your ignorance very clearly when you admit you haven't watched my Ironman demos in full, and by watching I do mean actually studying them and assessing each scenario, bearing in mind my experience and ability at Doom which is extradonary, not skipping to a random moment and making up fabrications based on your own failures thinking oh it's impossible, their is no way any player could accomplish that. I do make mistakes, sometimes crucial ones, this is also reflected if you studied my speedruns which are far from perfect and have flaws such as missing shots, awkward movement and poor dodging, however a key skill I have is not panicing when low on health or when the circumstance is dire. Well guess what, I'm one of a kind, no one can play the game like me, every talented player and speedrunner has their own strengths and weaknesses that make them stand out. I am deluded when you suggest someone must have prior knowledge to stand a chance of victory at Ironman. Well look at Demon of the Well, he's not a speedrunner but is known for making FDAs both blind and familiar, he has an exceptional ability at conquering maps on his first attempt, the most prominent example I can think of is rdwpa's MuMe.wad. Does that mean he cheats? Certainly not, he's a talented player who obviously has a high level of playing ability. You also have j4rio and 0xfooba who have accomplished amazing demos that haven't been set before, with the former tysons that should be impossible and the latter UV-Maxes on some the hardest maps devised and speedrun movies of Sunlust. So why would you think my speedruns are cheated, when their are fellow speedrunners who have demonstrated extraordinary playing ability, do not stream and have surpassed my demos? As I certainly have never accussed anyone else of cheating, but respect their accomplishment and admire their tenacity at conquering very hard maps and goals. I have not shown jealously or malice towards fellow speedrunners who have surpassed my demos but silently congratulate and admire their accomplishment, in some cases publicly such as when Ancalagon went back and re-ran Combat Shock in response to when I beat his old runs. I do not look at speedrunning with a competitive eye, thinking I must have the record and surpass my competitor, instead my view is a cooperative one, it's us speedrunners against the game, building on one another's ideas and talent when a new record is set, complementing each other's unique strengths and weaknesses. My question would be why are you accusing and targetting me specifically? I can see from the depths of your arrogance, you believe with absolute certainty you are correct and I must be a cheater with any form of rebuttal being null and void. Well let me state clearly I have nothing to gain, why would I cheat at Ironman when I have pubically stated previously I do not care about winning or if a fellow player surpasses me, this is just fun to me. For speedruns, what would be the purpose in cheating as it's a personal challenge to me, I want to demonstrate to myself I've got the skill and talent to conquer very hard maps, it's about me against the game and I don't feel jealously at a fellow speedrunner who has beaten my record. I make speedruns out of passion and love for the game and not for admiration or self flattery, as long as Andy accepts the demo for DSDA that's all I care about. I am not going to stream as I do not care for an audience and am not influenced by the accusations of an envious stranger. I only streamed briefly for a short time in the past out of curiosity, but it does not interest me nor do I feel passion for it. I haven't watched Twitch in over a year, I was drawn to it in my spare time during the short period prior to my first full time job after finishing my studies. My life has changed a lot in the past two years and their are far more important aspects in life which draw my attention, I have little free time as well. Also you must be very self-conscious if you honestly think one has to stream their demo to demonstrate they aren't cheating, that just indicates your disrespect and distrust towards other players with exceptional playing ability, you'll never be a talented survivalist like me :) Let me make it clear I don't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks of me, when I am passionate about a subject I will speak my mind truthfully even if it means being brash at times, both online and in real life, I won't be intimidated by anyone and will confront them with assertion and confidence. I'm here for fun, making speedruns and commenting on subjects once in a while which capture my eye. Thank you for revealing your true colors, seething with jealously and enveloped by arrogance, you've lost what respect I had for you. If you've come to your senses you will offer an apology, take a good luck in the mirror before you make such a disgusting accusation against a fellow Doom player, who has not caused strife and discord but shows humility and respect with a care free attitude, or will you continue this charade and repeat history, replicating the case of Okuplok? If you do continue to accuse, it will be solely for my amusement as I will not take you seriously and will likely ignore you. Choose wisely."
"Bah, then fetch me my thesaurus!" is now my favorite quote to do in a British accent.
@@phud420 lol
Who knew Shakespeare was autistic.
@@phud420 did you _seriously_ write that all out?
Impressive.
ZeroMaster: "I find Player K to be cheating at Doom Speedrunning."
Player K: "You weren't there."
😂😂
He started each map in 2nd gear.
@@xtreme1002003
Lmfao
"Respectfully, Your Honor, you weren't even there, so shut the fuck up."
"I don't have time to explain, now let me write the entire bee movie script except i didn't cheat"
Pro tip: Don't copy and paste 13000 words into a youtube comment
@@phud420 ...what?
@@phud420 You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect. I feel both disappointment and flattery these thoughts would originate from another player who has demonstrated one of a kind talent and has accomplished the impossible, yet is apparently immune from judgement owing to their reputation, do not think your words hold more credibility just because of who you are, being more well known and what you have accomplished in breaking world records and setting ones never previously accomplished, such as with TNT and Plutonia Nightmare. With that being said I will divulge my thoughts on the serious accusations you have set forth. I won't address the individual gameplay scenarios you've highlighted, as the foundation of your argument arises from jealously, this is clear when you contrast my success with your failure, being deluded into thinking you should have surpassed these trials yet cannot absolutely comprehend how someone else can claim victory on a consistent basis, instead I will address my playing ability. You know nothing about who I am or my history with this game, I am exceptionally talented not only at Doom, but other oldschool FPS along with videogames in general. I make speedruns and partake in Ironman out of passion for the game, it is a personal challenge in testing my playing ability to overcome arduous odds, I play for fun, it's about me vs the game and I hold no strong competitive urge or desire to be known as the best, reputation and status are not important to me but having fun is essential. Are you serious when you can't believe someone can beat an Ironman consistently? It's just playing the game without saving or loading, do you not have a fundamental understanding of the core gameplay and how to the play game correctly? Am I the only one who can play aggressively, with an intuitive and innate ability to bend the game to their will and not panic when in a dire situation, but with tactical genius aware of my surroundings and dexterous reflexes can act in the heat of battle and overcome arduous odds? When you highlight cases of RNG, I honestly don't think about it that deeply, I'm confident in what I'm doing, I'll make a risky move and hold strong with faith. I laugh at your baseless accusations of slowdown in reference to Stardate, I'm sure other skilled players such as Mrzzul and Nevanos could playthrough Stardate casually withour prior practice or saving and get just as far. Also bear in mind that I have died in several Ironmans before, do you honestly think their was demo manipulation there? You also demonstrate your ignorance very clearly when you admit you haven't watched my Ironman demos in full, and by watching I do mean actually studying them and assessing each scenario, bearing in mind my experience and ability at Doom which is extradonary, not skipping to a random moment and making up fabrications based on your own failures thinking oh it's impossible, their is no way any player could accomplish that. I do make mistakes, sometimes crucial ones, this is also reflected if you studied my speedruns which are far from perfect and have flaws such as missing shots, awkward movement and poor dodging, however a key skill I have is not panicing when low on health or when the circumstance is dire. Well guess what, I'm one of a kind, no one can play the game like me, every talented player and speedrunner has their own strengths and weaknesses that make them stand out. I am deluded when you suggest someone must have prior knowledge to stand a chance of victory at Ironman. Well look at Demon of the Well, he's not a speedrunner but is known for making FDAs both blind and familiar, he has an exceptional ability at conquering maps on his first attempt, the most prominent example I can think of is rdwpa's MuMe.wad. Does that mean he cheats? Certainly not, he's a talented player who obviously has a high level of playing ability. You also have j4rio and 0xfooba who have accomplished amazing demos that haven't been set before, with the former tysons that should be impossible and the latter UV-Maxes on some the hardest maps devised and speedrun movies of Sunlust. So why would you think my speedruns are cheated, when their are fellow speedrunners who have demonstrated extraordinary playing ability, do not stream and have surpassed my demos? As I certainly have never accussed anyone else of cheating, but respect their accomplishment and admire their tenacity at conquering very hard maps and goals. I have not shown jealously or malice towards fellow speedrunners who have surpassed my demos but silently congratulate and admire their accomplishment, in some cases publicly such as when Ancalagon went back and re-ran Combat Shock in response to when I beat his old runs. I do not look at speedrunning with a competitive eye, thinking I must have the record and surpass my competitor, instead my view is a cooperative one, it's us speedrunners against the game, building on one another's ideas and talent when a new record is set, complementing each other's unique strengths and weaknesses. My question would be why are you accusing and targetting me specifically? I can see from the depths of your arrogance, you believe with absolute certainty you are correct and I must be a cheater with any form of rebuttal being null and void. Well let me state clearly I have nothing to gain, why would I cheat at Ironman when I have pubically stated previously I do not care about winning or if a fellow player surpasses me, this is just fun to me. For speedruns, what would be the purpose in cheating as it's a personal challenge to me, I want to demonstrate to myself I've got the skill and talent to conquer very hard maps, it's about me against the game and I don't feel jealously at a fellow speedrunner who has beaten my record. I make speedruns out of passion and love for the game and not for admiration or self flattery, as long as Andy accepts the demo for DSDA that's all I care about. I am not going to stream as I do not care for an audience and am not influenced by the accusations of an envious stranger. I only streamed briefly for a short time in the past out of curiosity, but it does not interest me nor do I feel passion for it. I haven't watched Twitch in over a year, I was drawn to it in my spare time during the short period prior to my first full time job after finishing my studies. My life has changed a lot in the past two years and their are far more important aspects in life which draw my attention, I have little free time as well. Also you must be very self-conscious if you honestly think one has to stream their demo to demonstrate they aren't cheating, that just indicates your disrespect and distrust towards other players with exceptional playing ability, you'll never be a talented survivalist like me :) Let me make it clear I don't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks of me, when I am passionate about a subject I will speak my mind truthfully even if it means being brash at times, both online and in real life, I won't be intimidated by anyone and will confront them with assertion and confidence. I'm here for fun, making speedruns and commenting on subjects once in a while which capture my eye. Thank you for revealing your true colors, seething with jealously and enveloped by arrogance, you've lost what respect I had for you. If you've come to your senses you will offer an apology, take a good luck in the mirror before you make such a disgusting accusation against a fellow Doom player, who has not caused strife and discord but shows humility and respect with a care free attitude, or will you continue this charade and repeat history, replicating the case of Okuplok? If you do continue to accuse, it will be solely for my amusement as I will not take you seriously and will likely ignore you. Choose wisely.
@@heylittleguy26 Welp I'm not reading that
@@cultist1368 sus
I was actually disappointed when the video ended, I was enjoying it so much and wanted to know so much more.
Karl makes 14 minutes feel like 14 seconds.
@@asteria9963 That's what she said...
No, I'm sorry, Karl thinks I'm a legend, I shouldn't make jokes like this.
@@asteria9963 for real, I was surprised and consequently upset when it was over.
agreed. I feel the video ended too sudden and love to see more eased to end. and just want more content
Someone used King Crimson, no doubt
"You humor me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect."
"Sir this is a wendy's"
As someone with long-term depression M's apology really hits. A depression dip does shit to your brain that when you come out of it or get a reality check you just go "what the hell was I thinking?" (this is not an excuse to his actions, we are still responsible for our actions, just a fact of the illness). He owned up, clearly, no excuses or defending his actions, with clear remorse, and left the community.
Still cheated.
@@olivercharles2930 I know, I wasn't disputing that, as I said, it's not an excuse, but an explanation and respect for doing the right thing when called out.
nah fuck off you don't get to blame your depression for being a shit person, I'm suicidal and have been for years doesnt mean i get to make excuses
@@dondashallI thought the same thing. M admitted his mistake and left voluntarily, unlike K.
"The poison of envy and the smite of disrespect"
Okay, I get how envy can be compared to a poison, but how does disrespecting someone compare to smiting? The only conclusion I can draw is that he is saying his accusers are speedrunning gods.
"Smite," as a noun, can mean a savage attack.
@Stock Name Pretty much, yeah. It failed miserably.
@DiscordChaos yeah but it sounds cool
"Thou hast been smitten! Thy records hath been wiped from history!"
he used words he thought sounded cool so people would think he's smart
*seething with jealousy and enveloped by arrogance*
I had no idea DOOM players had so much class and express their opinions so eloquently.
I think that's the title of one of the new tracks for Doom Eternal
@@perciusmandate Please make that a truth.
@@abloogywoogywoo *ツ*
@@perciusmandateツ
Karl jobst: at frame 530, you did little manuevers
My uneducated ass who finds his videos by recommendation: *yeah tell em karl*
🤣🤣💯
K: “You humor me greatly with your arrogance and contempt”
My mind: “My little maggot”
He should write for Darkest Dungeon 2:
“In time, you will humor me with your arrogance and contempt.”
In time, you will know the tragic extent of my cheatings
He forgot that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
This comment thread is solid fucking gold.
When a hero gets an affliction:
*"Seething with jealousy. Enveloped by arrogance. You've lost what respect they've had for you."*
Can't unhear the voice! XD
Player K was projecting so hard I think you could just lay him on the table and begin your presentation.
This is the best comment in this section. By far.
Okay, I'm totally using that one; never heard it before.
As someone who despises dishonesty and have developed my ability to detect logical fallacies in arguments, I literally lost count of just how many fallacies player K had written into his post (I would have needed to pause the video to count them all).
It's like he was falling down the "bad excuses" tree and hit literally every single branch on the way down.
He’s the presentation. A presentation on how NOT to speedrun.
This video humored me greatly with its informative and entertainment value.
"K's response was actually very typical for confirmed cheaters"
The response: You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt
As a cheater myself, I can confirm I often say,"You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect. I feel both disappointment and flattery these thoughts would originate from another player who has demonstrated one of a kind talent and has accomplished the impossible, yet is apparently immune from judgement owing to their reputation, do not think your words hold more credibility just because of who you are, being more well known and what you have accomplished in breaking world records and setting ones never previously accomplished, such as with TNT and Plutonia Nightmare. With that being said I will divulge my thoughts on the serious accusations you have set forth. I won't address the individual gameplay scenarios you've highlighted, as the foundation of your argument arises from jealously, this is clear when you contrast my success with your failure, being deluded into thinking you should have surpassed these trials yet cannot absolutely comprehend how someone else can claim victory on a consistent basis, instead I will address my playing ability. You know nothing about who I am or my history with this game, I am exceptionally talented not only at Doom, but other oldschool FPS along with videogames in general. I make speedruns and partake in Ironman out of passion for the game, it is a personal challenge in testing my playing ability to overcome arduous odds, I play for fun, it's about me vs the game and I hold no strong competitive urge or desire to be known as the best, reputation and status are not important to me but having fun is essential. Are you serious when you can't believe someone can beat an Ironman consistently? It's just playing the game without saving or loading, do you not have a fundamental understanding of the core gameplay and how to the play game correctly? Am I the only one who can play aggressively, with an intuitive and innate ability to bend the game to their will and not panic when in a dire situation, but with tactical genius aware of my surroundings and dexterous reflexes can act in the heat of battle and overcome arduous odds? When you highlight cases of RNG, I honestly don't think about it that deeply, I'm confident in what I'm doing, I'll make a risky move and hold strong with faith. I laugh at your baseless accusations of slowdown in reference to Stardate, I'm sure other skilled players such as Mrzzul and Nevanos could playthrough Stardate casually withour prior practice or saving and get just as far. Also bear in mind that I have died in several Ironmans before, do you honestly think their was demo manipulation there? You also demonstrate your ignorance very clearly when you admit you haven't watched my Ironman demos in full, and by watching I do mean actually studying them and assessing each scenario, bearing in mind my experience and ability at Doom which is extradonary, not skipping to a random moment and making up fabrications based on your own failures thinking oh it's impossible, their is no way any player could accomplish that. I do make mistakes, sometimes crucial ones, this is also reflected if you studied my speedruns which are far from perfect and have flaws such as missing shots, awkward movement and poor dodging, however a key skill I have is not panicing when low on health or when the circumstance is dire. Well guess what, I'm one of a kind, no one can play the game like me, every talented player and speedrunner has their own strengths and weaknesses that make them stand out. I am deluded when you suggest someone must have prior knowledge to stand a chance of victory at Ironman. Well look at Demon of the Well, he's not a speedrunner but is known for making FDAs both blind and familiar, he has an exceptional ability at conquering maps on his first attempt, the most prominent example I can think of is rdwpa's MuMe.wad. Does that mean he cheats? Certainly not, he's a talented player who obviously has a high level of playing ability. You also have j4rio and 0xfooba who have accomplished amazing demos that haven't been set before, with the former tysons that should be impossible and the latter UV-Maxes on some the hardest maps devised and speedrun movies of Sunlust. So why would you think my speedruns are cheated, when their are fellow speedrunners who have demonstrated extraordinary playing ability, do not stream and have surpassed my demos? As I certainly have never accussed anyone else of cheating, but respect their accomplishment and admire their tenacity at conquering very hard maps and goals. I have not shown jealously or malice towards fellow speedrunners who have surpassed my demos but silently congratulate and admire their accomplishment, in some cases publicly such as when Ancalagon went back and re-ran Combat Shock in response to when I beat his old runs. I do not look at speedrunning with a competitive eye, thinking I must have the record and surpass my competitor, instead my view is a cooperative one, it's us speedrunners against the game, building on one another's ideas and talent when a new record is set, complementing each other's unique strengths and weaknesses. My question would be why are you accusing and targetting me specifically? I can see from the depths of your arrogance, you believe with absolute certainty you are correct and I must be a cheater with any form of rebuttal being null and void. Well let me state clearly I have nothing to gain, why would I cheat at Ironman when I have pubically stated previously I do not care about winning or if a fellow player surpasses me, this is just fun to me. For speedruns, what would be the purpose in cheating as it's a personal challenge to me, I want to demonstrate to myself I've got the skill and talent to conquer very hard maps, it's about me against the game and I don't feel jealously at a fellow speedrunner who has beaten my record. I make speedruns out of passion and love for the game and not for admiration or self flattery, as long as Andy accepts the demo for DSDA that's all I care about. I am not going to stream as I do not care for an audience and am not influenced by the accusations of an envious stranger. I only streamed briefly for a short time in the past out of curiosity, but it does not interest me nor do I feel passion for it. I haven't watched Twitch in over a year, I was drawn to it in my spare time during the short period prior to my first full time job after finishing my studies. My life has changed a lot in the past two years and their are far more important aspects in life which draw my attention, I have little free time as well. Also you must be very self-conscious if you honestly think one has to stream their demo to demonstrate they aren't cheating, that just indicates your disrespect and distrust towards other players with exceptional playing ability, you'll never be a talented survivalist like me :) Let me make it clear I don't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks of me, when I am passionate about a subject I will speak my mind truthfully even if it means being brash at times, both online and in real life, I won't be intimidated by anyone and will confront them with assertion and confidence. I'm here for fun, making speedruns and commenting on subjects once in a while which capture my eye. Thank you for revealing your true colors, seething with jealously and enveloped by arrogance, you've lost what respect I had for you. If you've come to your senses you will offer an apology, take a good luck in the mirror before you make such a disgusting accusation against a fellow Doom player, who has not caused strife and discord but shows humility and respect with a care free attitude, or will you continue this charade and repeat history, replicating the case of Okuplok? If you do continue to accuse, it will be solely for my amusement as I will not take you seriously and will likely ignore you. Choose wisely."
@@phud420 I'm not reading that.
@@oldmanconsequences5872 As a cheater myself, I can confirm I often say,"You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect. I feel both disappointment and flattery these thoughts would originate from another player who has demonstrated one of a kind talent and has accomplished the impossible, yet is apparently immune from judgement owing to their reputation, do not think your words hold more credibility just because of who you are, being more well known and what you have accomplished in breaking world records and setting ones never previously accomplished, such as with TNT and Plutonia Nightmare. With that being said I will divulge my thoughts on the serious accusations you have set forth. I won't address the individual gameplay scenarios you've highlighted, as the foundation of your argument arises from jealously, this is clear when you contrast my success with your failure, being deluded into thinking you should have surpassed these trials yet cannot absolutely comprehend how someone else can claim victory on a consistent basis, instead I will address my playing ability. You know nothing about who I am or my history with this game, I am exceptionally talented not only at Doom, but other oldschool FPS along with videogames in general. I make speedruns and partake in Ironman out of passion for the game, it is a personal challenge in testing my playing ability to overcome arduous odds, I play for fun, it's about me vs the game and I hold no strong competitive urge or desire to be known as the best, reputation and status are not important to me but having fun is essential. Are you serious when you can't believe someone can beat an Ironman consistently? It's just playing the game without saving or loading, do you not have a fundamental understanding of the core gameplay and how to the play game correctly? Am I the only one who can play aggressively, with an intuitive and innate ability to bend the game to their will and not panic when in a dire situation, but with tactical genius aware of my surroundings and dexterous reflexes can act in the heat of battle and overcome arduous odds? When you highlight cases of RNG, I honestly don't think about it that deeply, I'm confident in what I'm doing, I'll make a risky move and hold strong with faith. I laugh at your baseless accusations of slowdown in reference to Stardate, I'm sure other skilled players such as Mrzzul and Nevanos could playthrough Stardate casually withour prior practice or saving and get just as far. Also bear in mind that I have died in several Ironmans before, do you honestly think their was demo manipulation there? You also demonstrate your ignorance very clearly when you admit you haven't watched my Ironman demos in full, and by watching I do mean actually studying them and assessing each scenario, bearing in mind my experience and ability at Doom which is extradonary, not skipping to a random moment and making up fabrications based on your own failures thinking oh it's impossible, their is no way any player could accomplish that. I do make mistakes, sometimes crucial ones, this is also reflected if you studied my speedruns which are far from perfect and have flaws such as missing shots, awkward movement and poor dodging, however a key skill I have is not panicing when low on health or when the circumstance is dire. Well guess what, I'm one of a kind, no one can play the game like me, every talented player and speedrunner has their own strengths and weaknesses that make them stand out. I am deluded when you suggest someone must have prior knowledge to stand a chance of victory at Ironman. Well look at Demon of the Well, he's not a speedrunner but is known for making FDAs both blind and familiar, he has an exceptional ability at conquering maps on his first attempt, the most prominent example I can think of is rdwpa's MuMe.wad. Does that mean he cheats? Certainly not, he's a talented player who obviously has a high level of playing ability. You also have j4rio and 0xfooba who have accomplished amazing demos that haven't been set before, with the former tysons that should be impossible and the latter UV-Maxes on some the hardest maps devised and speedrun movies of Sunlust. So why would you think my speedruns are cheated, when their are fellow speedrunners who have demonstrated extraordinary playing ability, do not stream and have surpassed my demos? As I certainly have never accussed anyone else of cheating, but respect their accomplishment and admire their tenacity at conquering very hard maps and goals. I have not shown jealously or malice towards fellow speedrunners who have surpassed my demos but silently congratulate and admire their accomplishment, in some cases publicly such as when Ancalagon went back and re-ran Combat Shock in response to when I beat his old runs. I do not look at speedrunning with a competitive eye, thinking I must have the record and surpass my competitor, instead my view is a cooperative one, it's us speedrunners against the game, building on one another's ideas and talent when a new record is set, complementing each other's unique strengths and weaknesses. My question would be why are you accusing and targetting me specifically? I can see from the depths of your arrogance, you believe with absolute certainty you are correct and I must be a cheater with any form of rebuttal being null and void. Well let me state clearly I have nothing to gain, why would I cheat at Ironman when I have pubically stated previously I do not care about winning or if a fellow player surpasses me, this is just fun to me. For speedruns, what would be the purpose in cheating as it's a personal challenge to me, I want to demonstrate to myself I've got the skill and talent to conquer very hard maps, it's about me against the game and I don't feel jealously at a fellow speedrunner who has beaten my record. I make speedruns out of passion and love for the game and not for admiration or self flattery, as long as Andy accepts the demo for DSDA that's all I care about. I am not going to stream as I do not care for an audience and am not influenced by the accusations of an envious stranger. I only streamed briefly for a short time in the past out of curiosity, but it does not interest me nor do I feel passion for it. I haven't watched Twitch in over a year, I was drawn to it in my spare time during the short period prior to my first full time job after finishing my studies. My life has changed a lot in the past two years and their are far more important aspects in life which draw my attention, I have little free time as well. Also you must be very self-conscious if you honestly think one has to stream their demo to demonstrate they aren't cheating, that just indicates your disrespect and distrust towards other players with exceptional playing ability, you'll never be a talented survivalist like me :) Let me make it clear I don't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks of me, when I am passionate about a subject I will speak my mind truthfully even if it means being brash at times, both online and in real life, I won't be intimidated by anyone and will confront them with assertion and confidence. I'm here for fun, making speedruns and commenting on subjects once in a while which capture my eye. Thank you for revealing your true colors, seething with jealously and enveloped by arrogance, you've lost what respect I had for you. If you've come to your senses you will offer an apology, take a good luck in the mirror before you make such a disgusting accusation against a fellow Doom player, who has not caused strife and discord but shows humility and respect with a care free attitude, or will you continue this charade and repeat history, replicating the case of Okuplok? If you do continue to accuse, it will be solely for my amusement as I will not take you seriously and will likely ignore you. Choose wisely."
@@kristoffer8609 I'm still not reading that
JESUS CHRIST
K: Ive only shown humility and respect to other Doom players
Also K: Anyone who calls me out on my bullshit are arrogant jerks who are jelous of my success, even a far better player who has achieved several world records
Found the original. Here’s the whole text:
“You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect. I feel both disappointment and flattery these thoughts would originate from another player who has demonstrated one of a kind talent and has accomplished the impossible, yet is apparently immune from judgement owing to their reputation, do not think your words hold more credibility just because of who you are, being more well known and what you have accomplished in breaking world records and setting ones never previously accomplished, such as with TNT and Plutonia Nightmare. With that being said I will divulge my thoughts on the serious accusations you have set forth.
I won't address the individual gameplay scenarios you've highlighted, as the foundation of your argument arises from jealously, this is clear when you contrast my success with your failure, being deluded into thinking you should have surpassed these trials yet cannot absolutely comprehend how someone else can claim victory on a consistent basis, instead I will address my playing ability. You know nothing about who I am or my history with this game, I am exceptionally talented not only at Doom, but other oldschool FPS along with videogames in general. I make speedruns and partake in Ironman out of passion for the game, it is a personal challenge in testing my playing ability to overcome arduous odds, I play for fun, it's about me vs the game and I hold no strong competitive urge or desire to be known as the best, reputation and status are not important to me but having fun is essential.
Are you serious when you can't believe someone can beat an Ironman consistently? It's just playing the game without saving or loading, do you not have a fundamental understanding of the core gameplay and how to the play game correctly? Am I the only one who can play aggressively, with an intuitive and innate ability to bend the game to their will and not panic when in a dire situation, but with tactical genius aware of my surroundings and dexterous reflexes can act in the heat of battle and overcome arduous odds? When you highlight cases of RNG, I honestly don't think about it that deeply, I'm confident in what I'm doing, I'll make a risky move and hold strong with faith. I laugh at your baseless accusations of slowdown in reference to Stardate, I'm sure other skilled players such as Mrzzul and Nevanos could playthrough Stardate casually withour prior practice or saving and get just as far. Also bear in mind that I have died in several Ironmans before, do you honestly think their was demo manipulation there?
You also demonstrate your ignorance very clearly when you admit you haven't watched my Ironman demos in full, and by watching I do mean actually studying them and assessing each scenario, bearing in mind my experience and ability at Doom which is extradonary, not skipping to a random moment and making up fabrications based on your own failures thinking oh it's impossible, their is no way any player could accomplish that. I do make mistakes, sometimes crucial ones, this is also reflected if you studied my speedruns which are far from perfect and have flaws such as missing shots, awkward movement and poor dodging, however a key skill I have is not panicing when low on health or when the circumstance is dire. Well guess what, I'm one of a kind, no one can play the game like me, every talented player and speedrunner has their own strengths and weaknesses that make them stand out.
I am deluded when you suggest someone must have prior knowledge to stand a chance of victory at Ironman. Well look at Demon of the Well, he's not a speedrunner but is known for making FDAs both blind and familiar, he has an exceptional ability at conquering maps on his first attempt, the most prominent example I can think of is rdwpa's MuMe.wad. Does that mean he cheats? Certainly not, he's a talented player who obviously has a high level of playing ability. You also have j4rio and 0xfooba who have accomplished amazing demos that haven't been set before, with the former tysons that should be impossible and the latter UV-Maxes on some the hardest maps devised and speedrun movies of Sunlust. So why would you think my speedruns are cheated, when their are fellow speedrunners who have demonstrated extraordinary playing ability, do not stream and have surpassed my demos? As I certainly have never accussed anyone else of cheating, but respect their accomplishment and admire their tenacity at conquering very hard maps and goals.
I have not shown jealously or malice towards fellow speedrunners who have surpassed my demos but silently congratulate and admire their accomplishment, in some cases publicly such as when Ancalagon went back and re-ran Combat Shock in response to when I beat his old runs. I do not look at speedrunning with a competitive eye, thinking I must have the record and surpass my competitor, instead my view is a cooperative one, it's us speedrunners against the game, building on one another's ideas and talent when a new record is set, complementing each other's unique strengths and weaknesses.
My question would be why are you accusing and targetting me specifically? I can see from the depths of your arrogance, you believe with absolute certainty you are correct and I must be a cheater with any form of rebuttal being null and void. Well let me state clearly I have nothing to gain, why would I cheat at Ironman when I have pubically stated previously I do not care about winning or if a fellow player surpasses me, this is just fun to me. For speedruns, what would be the purpose in cheating as it's a personal challenge to me, I want to demonstrate to myself I've got the skill and talent to conquer very hard maps, it's about me against the game and I don't feel jealously at a fellow speedrunner who has beaten my record. I make speedruns out of passion and love for the game and not for admiration or self flattery, as long as Andy accepts the demo for DSDA that's all I care about.
I am not going to stream as I do not care for an audience and am not influenced by the accusations of an envious stranger. I only streamed briefly for a short time in the past out of curiosity, but it does not interest me nor do I feel passion for it. I haven't watched Twitch in over a year, I was drawn to it in my spare time during the short period prior to my first full time job after finishing my studies. My life has changed a lot in the past two years and their are far more important aspects in life which draw my attention, I have little free time as well. Also you must be very self-conscious if you honestly think one has to stream their demo to demonstrate they aren't cheating, that just indicates your disrespect and distrust towards other players with exceptional playing ability, you'll never be a talented survivalist like me :)
Let me make it clear I don't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks of me, when I am passionate about a subject I will speak my mind truthfully even if it means being brash at times, both online and in real life, I won't be intimidated by anyone and will confront them with assertion and confidence. I'm here for fun, making speedruns and commenting on subjects once in a while which capture my eye.
Thank you for revealing your true colors, seething with jealously and enveloped by arrogance, you've lost what respect I had for you. If you've come to your senses you will offer an apology, take a good luck in the mirror before you make such a disgusting accusation against a fellow Doom player, who has not caused strife and discord but shows humility and respect with a care free attitude, or will you continue this charade and repeat history, replicating the case of Okuplok? If you do continue to accuse, it will be solely for my amusement as I will not take you seriously and will likely ignore you. Choose wisely.”
Holy Essays, Batman!
This is an amazing copy paste.
"Are you serious when you can't believe someone can beat an Ironman consistently? It's just playing the game without saving or loading, do you not have a fundamental understanding of the core gameplay and how to the play game correctly? Am I the only one who can play aggressively, with an intuitive and innate ability to bend the game to their will and not panic when in a dire situation, but with tactical genius aware of my surroundings and dexterous reflexes can act in the heat of battle and overcome arduous odds?"
this part is the saddest shit ever lmao "ARE YOU NOT AN X-MEN!??!"
New copy pasta, yessss
I feel like I gained new knowledge reading this for myself, knowledge on how to talk like Socrates' and Billy Mitchell's baby
DOOM was very graphically impressive at the time, believe it or not. I still get that feeling of nostalgia from seeing it. It still looks pretty good actually.
For sure it was ground-breaking. Carmack is a genius. His use of the recursive BSP system for subsector sorting was brilliant. If you're interested in how the engine itself was built, I recommend Game Engine Black Book: DOOM
Still looks better and more fun to play than Doom Eternal.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 Can confirm that statement.
Oh, it's really beautiful, no doubt. Just like Starcraft, the graphic design is great regardless of the low performance of machines at the time.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 Is this a joke or do you genuinely dislike Doom Eternal? Personally I think it blows every other DOOM out of the water, except maybe DOOM 2016
Dream's rant on twitter perfectly mirrors this, it's insane.
Why is this so true
History repeats itself
And now he's just after admitting to having cheated all along, but in typical damage controlling fashion has claimed it was purely "accidental". What a surprise.
Dreams a moron but still, I think even a moron would know to not hide behind their fans while letting them give death threats to anyone who slightly criticises him
@@marcasdebarun6879 And now Karl made a vid doubting these claims.
I can't even fathom the hubris to call ZeroMaster a failure and accuse him of jealousy
That entire essay was laced full of projection. The guy was clearly very jealous of zero master.
Oh, I didn't even know hubris was a real word! I study ancient Greek and one of the first words we learned was ὑβρις, which roughly* means arrogance. (*well I'm Belgian so I'm actually translating from Greek to Dutch and then to English xd)
By the way, I totally agree with what you're saying.
@@madlad255 ύβρις can be better described as sin but it is most commonly used to for arrogance.
@@madlad255 Google translate Russian doll lookin ass
Ghosting after being accused of cheating really doesn't help your case.
I was assaulted in New Orleans...I didn't go to court...the dude can catch a manslaughter charge one day when he lets getting away with this one embolden him.
he ran with the tail between his legs. I am sure everyone in community saw him for what he was, and he had nothing to back his claims up with.
@@Kahzu No, I'm Mr. Fur.
@@Kahzu But yeah, he only grabbed my neck and tried to say I stole a purse...after listening to his story...he didn't make it through the police academy and is looking for stuff that isn't there...my point was, he'll do it to the wrong person...they'll have a heart attack, and then he'll go away for a long time. And the other point was, just because you ditch, doesn't mean you're guilty, you just don't feel like going through the trouble...I've lived a long time and people seem to thrive on creating problems.
@@mista_fur3346 what are you on about mate?
Me: Should be learning how to build credit, own land, develope skills to make a living. .
Also me: Why, yes, I would like to know how to spot a Doom speedrunning cheater.
K: **Steals bank**
Guy in front of the bank: "THAT DUDE IS STEALING THE BANK"
K: "SAYING THAT IM ROBBING A BANK IS SUCH A WEAK MINDSET AND YOU ARE CLEARLY ENVY ME"
How would he steal an entire building
Bro must be really strong to steal an entire bank
Calling one of the most prolific DOOM speedrunners ever "a failure" takes some stunning cognitive dissonance.
Or you're so high on your horse that the gods themselves look up at you in disappointment.
Not technically cognitive dissonance
@@merchantziro4285 that to lol
I think it shows what an immature doofus K was. He either didn't recognize a veritable god of the Doom community was the person calling him onto the carpet, and/or didn't realize the approach he took while responding to that made him look like _an imbecile._
Either way, K stopped appearing on the community websites after that. I think he realized he'd now be laughed right off of them whenever he showed his face.
Not a winner either lol. He sunk time you can't return into video games.
"What is a DOOM SLAYER? A miserable pile of jealousy!"
But enough talk! Have an essay!
Since Zeromaster is too busy being good at DOOM, it’s up to K to become literally the next f**king shakespeare.
Player K: "I will divulge my thoughts on the serious accusations you have set forth"
also Player K: "I won't address the individual gameplay scenarios you've highlighted"
Dream: yo can I copy your homework
Mr.K: yea just change it up a little bit
Dream: *...*
so dream cheated in more than just one way, huh?
@Bryan Carlson dream, in this instance, cheated in two ways.
1. He cheated by modding Minecraft for better RNG
2. He cheated off of Mr. K's HW
@Bryan Carlson
I not use twitter but i want to know, what did he said?
@@Undergamer12 Karl has his own video on it you can find it there
ZeroMaster: "Your gameplay doesnt add up. Care to explain?"
K *"HoW dArE yOu!"*
'ThE aUdAcItY!'
Pfffhahaha that response to Zeromaster reads like a copypasta!
You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect. I feel both disappointment and flattery these thoughts would originate from another player who has demonstrated one of a kind talent and has accomplished the impossible, yet is apparently immune from judgement owing to their reputation, do not think your words hold more credibility just because of who you are, being more well known and what you have accomplished in breaking world records and setting ones never previously accomplished, such as with TNT and Plutonia Nightmare. With that being said I will divulge my thoughts on the serious accusations you have set forth.
I won't address the individual gameplay scenarios you've highlighted, as the foundation of your argument arises from jealously, this is clear when you contrast my success with your failure, being deluded into thinking you should have surpassed these trials yet cannot absolutely comprehend how someone else can claim victory on a consistent basis, instead I will address my playing ability. You know nothing about who I am or my history with this game, I am exceptionally talented not only at Doom, but other oldschool FPS along with videogames in general. I make speedruns and partake in Ironman out of passion for the game, it is a personal challenge in testing my playing ability to overcome arduous odds, I play for fun, it's about me vs the game and I hold no strong competitive urge or desire to be known as the best, reputation and status are not important to me but having fun is essential.
Are you serious when you can't believe someone can beat an Ironman consistently? It's just playing the game without saving or loading, do you not have a fundamental understanding of the core gameplay and how to the play game correctly? Am I the only one who can play aggressively, with an intuitive and innate ability to bend the game to their will and not panic when in a dire situation, but with tactical genius aware of my surroundings and dexterous reflexes can act in the heat of battle and overcome arduous odds? When you highlight cases of RNG, I honestly don't think about it that deeply, I'm confident in what I'm doing, I'll make a risky move and hold strong with faith. I laugh at your baseless accusations of slowdown in reference to Stardate, I'm sure other skilled players such as Mrzzul and Nevanos could playthrough Stardate casually withour prior practice or saving and get just as far. Also bear in mind that I have died in several Ironmans before, do you honestly think their was demo manipulation there?
You also demonstrate your ignorance very clearly when you admit you haven't watched my Ironman demos in full, and by watching I do mean actually studying them and assessing each scenario, bearing in mind my experience and ability at Doom which is extradonary, not skipping to a random moment and making up fabrications based on your own failures thinking oh it's impossible, their is no way any player could accomplish that. I do make mistakes, sometimes crucial ones, this is also reflected if you studied my speedruns which are far from perfect and have flaws such as missing shots, awkward movement and poor dodging, however a key skill I have is not panicing when low on health or when the circumstance is dire. Well guess what, I'm one of a kind, no one can play the game like me, every talented player and speedrunner has their own strengths and weaknesses that make them stand out.
I am deluded when you suggest someone must have prior knowledge to stand a chance of victory at Ironman. Well look at Demon of the Well, he's not a speedrunner but is known for making FDAs both blind and familiar, he has an exceptional ability at conquering maps on his first attempt, the most prominent example I can think of is rdwpa's MuMe.wad. Does that mean he cheats? Certainly not, he's a talented player who obviously has a high level of playing ability. You also have j4rio and 0xfooba who have accomplished amazing demos that haven't been set before, with the former tysons that should be impossible and the latter UV-Maxes on some the hardest maps devised and speedrun movies of Sunlust. So why would you think my speedruns are cheated, when their are fellow speedrunners who have demonstrated extraordinary playing ability, do not stream and have surpassed my demos? As I certainly have never accussed anyone else of cheating, but respect their accomplishment and admire their tenacity at conquering very hard maps and goals.
I have not shown jealously or malice towards fellow speedrunners who have surpassed my demos but silently congratulate and admire their accomplishment, in some cases publicly such as when Ancalagon went back and re-ran Combat Shock in response to when I beat his old runs. I do not look at speedrunning with a competitive eye, thinking I must have the record and surpass my competitor, instead my view is a cooperative one, it's us speedrunners against the game, building on one another's ideas and talent when a new record is set, complementing each other's unique strengths and weaknesses.
My question would be why are you accusing and targetting me specifically? I can see from the depths of your arrogance, you believe with absolute certainty you are correct and I must be a cheater with any form of rebuttal being null and void. Well let me state clearly I have nothing to gain, why would I cheat at Ironman when I have pubically stated previously I do not care about winning or if a fellow player surpasses me, this is just fun to me. For speedruns, what would be the purpose in cheating as it's a personal challenge to me, I want to demonstrate to myself I've got the skill and talent to conquer very hard maps, it's about me against the game and I don't feel jealously at a fellow speedrunner who has beaten my record. I make speedruns out of passion and love for the game and not for admiration or self flattery, as long as Andy accepts the demo for DSDA that's all I care about.
I am not going to stream as I do not care for an audience and am not influenced by the accusations of an envious stranger. I only streamed briefly for a short time in the past out of curiosity, but it does not interest me nor do I feel passion for it. I haven't watched Twitch in over a year, I was drawn to it in my spare time during the short period prior to my first full time job after finishing my studies. My life has changed a lot in the past two years and their are far more important aspects in life which draw my attention, I have little free time as well. Also you must be very self-conscious if you honestly think one has to stream their demo to demonstrate they aren't cheating, that just indicates your disrespect and distrust towards other players with exceptional playing ability, you'll never be a talented survivalist like me :)
Let me make it clear I don't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks of me, when I am passionate about a subject I will speak my mind truthfully even if it means being brash at times, both online and in real life, I won't be intimidated by anyone and will confront them with assertion and confidence. I'm here for fun, making speedruns and commenting on subjects once in a while which capture my eye.
Thank you for revealing your true colors, seething with jealously and enveloped by arrogance, you've lost what respect I had for you. If you've come to your senses you will offer an apology, take a good luck in the mirror before you make such a disgusting accusation against a fellow Doom player, who has not caused strife and discord but shows humility and respect with a care free attitude, or will you continue this charade and repeat history, replicating the case of Okuplok? If you do continue to accuse, it will be solely for my amusement as I will not take you seriously and will likely ignore you. Choose wisely.
go nuts!
klop knop definitely “I’m so edgy and cool” 😳
I felt euphoric just reading it
A wall of text
Filthy Bastard
Jesus christ, the arragence and narrsassism is hillarious...
11:45 Forsooth! Thou accusest me of cheating? For shame! Thy arguments shall not find any ear! Henceforth, begone foul serpent! I cast thee into the blackest of the abyss for insinuating such hearsay!
"You humor me greatly with your arrogance and contempt."
I instinctively read that in the Emperor's voice. I felt that it fit his way of speaking
>Me whose never watched a single doom speedrun ever
"Ooooh new doom speedrun news, Keen!"
I clicked cause I was like “who tf still plays this?”
Crazy Butter72 lots of people! The community is alive and well, creating and modding new things all the time
I like speedrun histories cause it shows people thinking outside the box, training to beat their own times and sometimes drama like this.
@DrTheKay Brooo do you see what I see? No, this can't be real... Omg dude... Bro I think you just posted cringe bro. Smh. This is going to have consequences my friend. That's how cringe you are. Bro.......
@DrTheKay You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect
K: "I show humility and respect"
also K: *Proceeds to diss the frick out of zeromaster*
and
K: "you humor me with your aroggence and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect
Also K: *brings a flood of accusations born from the poison envy and smite of disrespect*
K: "As long as Andy accepts the demo that's all I care about"
Also K: *Writes whole pages pages filled with character assassinations, and such intense self-praise it must be giving him a hard-on... never saying anything that might disprove or allay suspicions that he cheated.*
K: "I play for fun... I hold no strong competitive desire to be known as the best, reputation and status are not important to me..."
Also K: *uploads videos of virtually impossible runs for all to see on a regular basis for weeks*
K: "It's just playing the game without saving or loading, do you not have a fundamental understanding of the core gameplay and how to play the game correctly?"
🤔... (typing)...
- Ultimate Doom (1993) UV Speed -
|Episodes 1-3|
Record: 15m 22s
Player: Zero-Master
|Episodes 1-4|
Record: 19m 43s
Player: Zero-Master
i wish more cheaters were more like player K. his essay is just legendary
6:07 As someone who just started playing doom yesterday, I can confirm that yes, these jagged movements did, "fly under my radar"
"You humor me greatly with your arrogance and contempt" feels like at sime point it should be followed by "A miserable little pile of secrets!".
People catching cheaters in Mario or other games:
"Hmm, that move looked kinda fishy/is practically impossible to pull off."
People catching cheaters in DOOM:
"At frame 530, you did multiple maneuvers to go to the highest speed possible, and then somehow came to an immediate stop, only to immediately go back to the highest speed again."
Me, and other normies:
*"Jesus."*
That's literally me rn. I'm just watching this video like *WHAT*
@@vergil2067 Right? Like. Holy fuckin' shit. I always find it incredible when someone catches something out of place just because a _single_ frame was out of place.
Because demo files allow you to do that. You can't look at the inputs through video, but a demo file has *everything*
@@DarkLink1996. Yep, because demos in Doom are basically data of what you did, not a video. Demos get rendered by the game when you play them, which is why demos are so tiny compared to videos.
@@DarkLink1996. They're incredibly well suited for speedrunning in that sense.
Props to player M for immediately admitting his mistake and withdrawing from the community, he may have cheated, but you can tell he felt genuine remorse, or he would have fought it...continued to deny it...He wanted to get caught...I’m just saying I’ve watched plenty of these and not many players handled it like he did...
Except he didn't "immediately admit his mistake". He initially tried to deny the claims of him cheating by attributing his unreal movements to luck.
"he would have fought it....he wanted to get caught...." why are you talking like you want to kiss the dude. Quit riding him, he only apologized because he got caught.
And here I was thinking "You can tell the cheats are on when Doomguys eyes are glowing white!" ...
Isn't there an item that gives you temporary invulnerability?
@@LilacMonarch There is and I think it also makes Doomguys eyes white. I was just being silly
"Oh look at me I used to get A+ is essays"
Oh, don't think so. Teachers can smell the stench of a thesaurus from miles away.
Not with syntax like "you humour me greatly."
@@sadrevolution Can you explain?
@@gamerdude1246 Sure: his word order is wrong. If you read the individual definitions of the pieces of vocabulary, you could infer that he probably meant he finds great (either large or quality) humour in what is being said to/about him, but because it is a well-established idiom in English that to humour someone means to follow along with their thoughts, actions, or requests despite an apprehension of (or outright hostility towards) them, what he actually communicated is far from what he intended to communicate. Also, using the word "greatly," and using it where he did in the sentence, ambiguates what it intends to communicate: has he been humoured excellently? Largely? Cleverly? Context doesn't clear it up, because of the issues explained above. He sounds like he is ESL (which is fine, many intelligent people don't operate in their first language) and trying (with his imperfect grasp of this language) to emulate speech patterns of the British Victorian upper class. In short maybe a B in a first year essay, or B+ if the content is strong enough to overcome the writing issues.
K: "You humor me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations borne out of the poison of envy and smite of disrespect"
Server "...all I said is that we're out of hash browns"
Sounds exactly like what would happen in the Doomworld forums
Kudos. You have correctly identified the one scenario in which it is acceptable to use this phrase.
Sir... This is a Wendy's
Sir this is an arby's
Sir... This is a 7-Eleven.
Your honor, the prosecution's argument clearly arises from jealousy, therefore my client is innocent.
K: “You’ve revealed your true colors.”
Zero master: BLUE
If you look at M’s confession he drops the “I’m depressed” literally on the second sentence
I burned down the muslim orphanage but only because I felt sad so it's ok
SuperSansCraft 1212 did a blue mammal stop you?
SuperSansCraft 1212 he was a POTTED PLANT
@SuperSansCraft 1212 IT WAS ME: DIO!!!!!
Nasreddine Ayknow that was dorito and mute no Jared’s unusual travel
Navy Seals Copypasta: Doom edition
Meal team 6
You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt
"You humor me greatly with your arrogance and contempt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Player K said calmly.
Holy shit that guys confession and apology was so sad to read. I hope he’s doing okay now he seemed genuinely upset with himself and remorseful
> "I have little free time and far more important things to do."
> is a try hard at doom speedrunning
> literally turns into shakespeare to respond to zero master with an enormous response message
yeah sure
>has “little free time”
>writes a 5000 word essay responding to zeromaster
Yeah seems legit
12:16
>Zero gave me actual argument that I'm cheating
>Zero's argument came from a foundation of "Jealousy" So his argument is wrong
11/10 logic
I could watch your documentaries for hours, and I don't even speedrun. They are so entertaining. These videos have made me want to get in to speerunning though. I love the community aspect around it.
Seriously, K’s writing style makes him sound like Victor Frankenstein.
Oh yes, the classic "i was depressed and in a dark place"
@@thefakepie1126 Behold, the M of the TH-cam comment section!
Spouting irrationality, bad grammar, unrealistic “facts” and insults for all!
@@thefakepie1126 You humor me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect. I feel both disappointment and flattery these thoughts would originate from another player who has demonstrated one of a kind talent and has accomplished the impossible, yet is immune from judgment owing to their reputation, do not think your words hold more credibility just because of who you are, being more well known and what you have accomplished in breaking world records and setting ones never previously accomplished, such as with TNT and Plutonia Nightmare. With that being said I will divulge my thoughts on the serious accusations you have set forth.
@@thefakepie1126 lol he's not saying that m was never depressed, he's just saying he shouldn't have used it as an excuse
@@thefakepie1126 of course depression has an effect on your mind, but the way he mentions it (and many others do the same thing) makes it seems like he's using it as an excuse, almost like he wants to make it seem that what he did wasn't wrong at all because he was depressed
@@thefakepie1126 yeah but he makes himself look bad by even mentioning it at all
Me: *doing nothing with life*
Karl Jobst: "ABSOLUTE LEGEND!"
Me: "yeah that's me"
M: Yes, I cheated, goodbye
K: *writes the whole bible*
Something about humor and disrespecc
I love your videos man, they make me wanna try some speed running of my own. I used to be big on racing games, always looking for the perfect run but this kinda stuff seems cool too.
K turned into an anime character when he got caught cheating at 11:45 lmao
> gets caught cheating
"so guys I've been depressed and the 6 shots of heroin in my system ain't gonna cut it anymore"
"I have depression, so as you see, I am the victim here"
"*Exhales* I've not been myself lately"
@@thefakepie1126 looks like you fell for it
@@thefakepie1126 neither do you bud
@@thefakepie1126 you're a fool, keep complaining in every thread about it
Not to mention your jail analogy makes no fucking sense
I am SERIOUSLY going to use "You humor me greatly with your arrogance and contempt" at some point. It is just...perfect XD
"Shows humility and respect with a care free attitude." LOL
"You're accusing me because you're jealous" is all the proof you need that someone is cheating.
Innocent people do not react that way.
Oh yeah well you're just accusing me of murdering those children because you're jealous of me. I do NOT know about those fingerprints at all and I am frankly sickened you'd go so far to blame me for it. They were obviously caused by cosmic gamma rays at that only replicated those children.
@@anevilghost670 I read this reply like 5 hours ago and it's still making me laugh
In indonesian he will say: Iri bilang boss
Its such a shit defense
"and thus i, the accused party, lack the possession of an adequate amount of time to respond to such repulsive slander in the face of my contribution to pointless competition of which the winner shall recieve a sizable sum of currency"
Hi
prime r/increasinglyverbose material !
I fucking love the end of K's little rant. "Will you offer and apology, or continue to accuse me? If you continue to accuse, I will ignore you. Choose wisely."
Bro thinks he's the fucking godfather and his favor is tremendously important. The sheer arrogance is astounding.
Hi, an absolute legend! I watched Shmooey debunk 100 years ago, but now I re-discovered your channel and can't stop watching!
K: ''I have little free time'' Makes a light novel in a comment.
When you've been found out but you have no retorts, so you pull out the thesaurus and write a novel length nonsense rebuttal as you slip out of the backdoor never to be seen again. This guy must have been a politician.
Even though M cheated, I still feel sorry for him, at least he knows how to apologize
What kind of fucked up society do we live in where a guy who is capable of that kind of sincere reflection can be driven to do what he did by the cost of fucking medicine?
I hope he's ok.
That had all the earmarks of a combined episode of self-pity and self-loathing.
it was a fake apology he had been caught multiple times cheating and tried it again (most likely a teen); and the "oh my depression" is the oldest trick in the book the truth was he was a greedy kid saw 100 dollars up for grabs and believed he could steal it from the group
@@geasslelouch Wow, you really only believe the worst in people, don't you?
@@TNT9000and1
I love to agree with you, but people like M are not rare, especially on the Internet. You strike me as the type who has to learn that lesson the hard way.
Thanks for the video. I was not aware that it was possible to review a speed run attempt and see the inputs for the game. I remember playing the game back in the day but I barely beat the regular setting so would not even attempt a speed run at the highest levels.
Some guy: *exposes cheater so it can be fair for others who actually worked hard*
Cheater: *writes a whole blog on why he's dumb instead of why he's wrong*
M: *Accuses Zeromaster of envy and being a failure*
Zeromaster: *Proceeds to be the only person ever to complete the Plutonia nightmare single life run and the only one to legit 100% Doom 2 with the pain elemental*
Can we abandon this notion of 100% Doom 2? Everyone would have it, if it wasn't for the fact that the secret sector was put in a place *you can't go.* I mean, yes, Zero found a way, and it could really *only* be Zero, but really. If we're going to talk about his accomplishments, on that same map no less, we could talk about the "Zero Press..."
Oof
*Also is the only guy who's beaten Plutonia NM100S in the form of Episodes*
Zero-Master is the only living being who deserves the title of "Doomgod". He may as well be Doomguy himself.
@@abd-qadirgilani8871 damn
@@abd-qadirgilani8871 I just wanted to write the same. Zeromaster maybe the doomguy himself knowing how to accomplish the impossible across the shores of hell...
12:42 is literally in 5th grade when you had to do a 100 word writing task but you’re 19 letters off so you add unnecessary adjectives to the story to extend the length.
Incredible, awesome video Karl 👍. Keep up the good work.