Running A Tightrope: DOOM's Most Precarious Speedrun

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  • @PoisonedAl
    @PoisonedAl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10761

    No... Don't make a TH-cam comment correcting him for calling them "floating skulls." Don't be "that guy" ...
    ...
    OH FFS! THEY ARE CALLED LOST SOULS!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

    • @Rastadogg85
      @Rastadogg85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1315

      I'm 7 minutes in and he's called them Lost Souls 4 times and floating skulls once. The fuck is your point my man?

    • @karljobst
      @karljobst  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2359

      Its just a bit of fun

    • @PanterD2S
      @PanterD2S 5 ปีที่แล้ว +326

      @@karljobst We were discussing if thats an east german accent maybe? "Duum" :D However, "floating skulls" is totally ok as an explanation/description - everybody will know what is meant.

    • @karljobst
      @karljobst  5 ปีที่แล้ว +759

      If i have a bit of german/austrian accent thats plausible as my dad is austrian and my grandparents are german.

    • @VGamingJunkieVT
      @VGamingJunkieVT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +354

      I propose a compromise, Lost Skulls.

  • @TheReloader
    @TheReloader 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6205

    10:07 “I hate ledges.”
    13:06 “I love ledges.”
    What a great character arc.

    • @kyucumbear
      @kyucumbear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +391

      I have a slight suspicion that this might be Stockholm Syndrome at play here.

    • @chip2508
      @chip2508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +395

      23 years later, he's legally married to them.

    • @AndGoatz04
      @AndGoatz04 5 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      Top ten anime character arcs

    • @587180
      @587180 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Top ten anime plot twist 😂

    • @Hhuiza0
      @Hhuiza0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Tsunderes in a nutshell

  • @Zephyrbal
    @Zephyrbal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3086

    The Chasm or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Ledge

    • @bathsleeper
      @bathsleeper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Holy shit you beat me to it ahaha

    • @EQuisby
      @EQuisby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      How I met your ledge

    • @chriswelcome8102
      @chriswelcome8102 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nice dude

    • @Minnevan
      @Minnevan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Dude where’s my ledge?

    • @misterkaos.357
      @misterkaos.357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ow the ledge

  • @nvhnch
    @nvhnch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2254

    Early runs: meticulous ledge walking
    Late runs: Tony hawk's pro skater ledge manouvers

    • @TheGary108
      @TheGary108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Satan: Don’t worry, kickflipping doomguy isn’t real. He can’t hurt you.
      Kickflipping Doomguy:

    • @Zeromaru42
      @Zeromaru42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They went from Dark Souls 1 to Devil May Cry 5.

    • @metalgearsolidsnake6978
      @metalgearsolidsnake6978 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spiderman into SPIDERVERSE> YES GOOD DOOM!!

    • @Salmonator2000
      @Salmonator2000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Funny thing is, Doomguy is an actual character in the PC version of Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3. So kickflipping Doomguy is, in fact, real.

    • @BigBoris
      @BigBoris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      FS 50-50 + Big Rail
      6,735 x 6

  • @nameisflow
    @nameisflow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5334

    "Not by just 1 or 2 seconds, but by 3 seconds"
    Damn

    • @valera4567
      @valera4567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +344

      Super Mario Bros. speedruns be like
      "OMG GUYS I IMPROVED WR BY 0.1 S FFS YEAH!!"

    • @purdyd2
      @purdyd2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +232

      @@valera4567 a record is a record

    • @hudde814
      @hudde814 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      @@purdyd2 you can't say it's only 0.1 seconds

    • @EveryTimeV2
      @EveryTimeV2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      It mirrors real sport times. You'd think 1 Second isn't a lot, but this is really the part of the game where even getting a few frames extra is an olympic feat.

    • @Artrysa
      @Artrysa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      For a speed run that's quite a big difference. Depending on what run and on how many times the record has already been improved of course.

  • @BruceNJeffAreMyFlies
    @BruceNJeffAreMyFlies 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2185

    'Love the ledges, and they love me'
    He genuinely started to sound insane at that point.. I guess speedrunning chasm for a year will do that to a man..

    • @gerrardweatherlight2962
      @gerrardweatherlight2962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      I know that this video has been uploaded for a while, but I was just looking for someone who had posted precisely this. When I heard that in the video it crept me out. It's crazy how much some people put at risk their health (in this case their mental health) to beat a record of any kind.

    • @dl-3780
      @dl-3780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Haha! It sure does! You should try it...

    • @AsimSiddiqui007
      @AsimSiddiqui007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gerrardweatherlight2962 how can these things badly affect mental health?

    • @brutpenta
      @brutpenta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      @@AsimSiddiqui007 "The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result."
      -Einstein

    • @joshs1555
      @joshs1555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I heard that in the essence of...
      This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will ...

  • @dotcom137
    @dotcom137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +898

    _"This was however, before I started to love all ledges, all of them... and they me."_
    Yep. The guy just went mad crazy.

    • @dl-3780
      @dl-3780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +173

      I actually thought it was pretty funny when I wrote it. Made peace with 'em with this recording, and left it at that..

    • @SeaSerpentLevi
      @SeaSerpentLevi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@dl-3780 are you joking?
      thats actually how im going to approach life from now on
      gotta glide trough life's ledges lol
      you're a legend man :')

    • @narnianninja4964
      @narnianninja4964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@SeaSerpentLevi I don't think it's the real one. His account was made a year after this video.

    • @rizaadon
      @rizaadon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I actually think it's him

    • @beautifulaffliction1742
      @beautifulaffliction1742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rizaadxn no

  • @8bitorgy
    @8bitorgy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6015

    i just love how this narrator makes these people sound like the pantheon of immortals

    • @AdonMaster
      @AdonMaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +562

      absolute legends, u mean

    • @moxiethegamebunny937
      @moxiethegamebunny937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +368

      That's because they are. Mortal men need not apply.

    • @hemansx
      @hemansx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      This sounds like blasphemy, let's get him boys

    • @mu_te3472
      @mu_te3472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @ComocosonoEWL stfu

    • @outdater9302
      @outdater9302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      They are so he doesn't need the try

  • @Kortexual
    @Kortexual 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3403

    Damn hearing that Demonlord never held the record for Chasm ever again made me a little sad inside...

    • @mortem4342
      @mortem4342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +545

      I was rooting for him the whole time...

    • @turtIenator
      @turtIenator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Mortem same

    • @PlanetCapeStudios
      @PlanetCapeStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      :(

    • @tostie3110
      @tostie3110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +351

      He still had to do lots of discoveries, so despite not holding the record, still worth the fame

    • @blengdiabloed7335
      @blengdiabloed7335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      Demonlord is a beast

  • @TheFallorn
    @TheFallorn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1770

    Me looking at those walkways:
    “Hello you absolute ledges.”

    • @topwargear
      @topwargear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      HAHAHHA

    • @michaelenz7039
      @michaelenz7039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ...
      I need the police this man is the most halarios man ever

    • @evrodrill
      @evrodrill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelenz7039 is your name in TH-cam what i think it is

    • @michaelenz7039
      @michaelenz7039 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evrodrill ?

    • @evrodrill
      @evrodrill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaelenz7039 what

  • @Azraeltheangelofdeath
    @Azraeltheangelofdeath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +666

    I like how in the beginning they're just inching their way across the ledges and by the end they're just jumping and gliding along them like they're skating not even worrying about falling in

    • @clockworkkirlia7475
      @clockworkkirlia7475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      This is exactly what skiing feels like tbh. You learn to stop trying to move like a human being, just like here where you need to stop moving like there are ledges.

    • @gurrekurre1726
      @gurrekurre1726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Now they L O V E ledges

    • @KodyLapointe
      @KodyLapointe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Clockwork Kirlia was a sponsored backcountry skier for many years and i still felt human. good way to die if you start thinking weird like that.

    • @ChromatestJPantsmaker
      @ChromatestJPantsmaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Think about the technology players had to have in 1997 to record a speed run. Every goof up would required a bunch of steps to be repeated, hard drive space filling up, etc. Now, computers have so much more power that it could be streamed in real time online with a couple of button clicks.

    • @vez3834
      @vez3834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@ChromatestJPantsmaker
      Karl explained this in another video. Doom and quake use "demos" which are basically really small files that capture the movement perfectly. That's why these runs are such good quality.

  • @TheFigureofspeech
    @TheFigureofspeech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1553

    this is the most granular explanation of a subject I have zero interest in but somehow I can't stop watching.

    • @aaz1992
      @aaz1992 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      it's some serious shit

    • @kos2919
      @kos2919 5 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      What make this topic so alluring for people who don't even speedrun is that how with time and dedication someone can reach what deemed impossible and also competitive nature of it.

    • @clashmanthethird
      @clashmanthethird 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      What do you mean you have 0 interest in Doom

    • @Dvoid107
      @Dvoid107 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@kos2919 That and these vids have great editing/narration

    • @elhomo6406
      @elhomo6406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@kos2919 or some say kosm

  • @dslyecxi
    @dslyecxi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1976

    Your presentation is fantastic. I've watched a few of your Quake and Doom videos now and each one has been really entertaining from start to finish.

  • @drgzy3839
    @drgzy3839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2662

    The ledges drove him so mad he began loving them

    • @Aikisbest
      @Aikisbest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      I wonder if that's how Sheogorath got started with cheese.

    • @handsomebrick
      @handsomebrick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Stockholm Syndrome

    • @a3msty
      @a3msty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@handsomebrick oh man I was going to comment that :(

    • @stormwatcheagle5448
      @stormwatcheagle5448 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Dr. Doomlove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Ledges

    • @CarbonRollerCaco
      @CarbonRollerCaco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      He managed to make the ledges his bitches.

  • @LuLzMrTom
    @LuLzMrTom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1478

    It's great that there is so much saved footage and documentation for these records that you can make such an in depth video of events that happened over 20 years ago

    • @5LAMRY
      @5LAMRY 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      It really is amazing. I ran into watching this Speedrun History stuff after it appeared in my Recommendations 7-8 months ago. Learning about all these Absolute Legends and being able to see footage from 20+ years ago is remarkable! So glad I found this community it's so cool to watch!

    • @ThatHomestar
      @ThatHomestar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      Demo files were a genius way of being able to watch someone's replay while keeping filesizes to a minimum. I wish more games still had this kind of feature.

    • @T3sl4
      @T3sl4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      That's the best part, it's not even footage, just demos. Lightweight, easily shared, and usually accurate. (Downside: rarely, glitches cause desyncs, or different ports suffer from incompatibility.) Absolutely the case that Doom created speedrunning as we know it!

    • @wslaxmiddy
      @wslaxmiddy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      For a lot of games that is true, but for doom it's even better as others have said the runs were saved as txt files of the exact button presses(saved by the ga,e) that anyone could send and receive easily even on dial up that now you plug them into doom and can watch in 2019 quality

    • @Weetunet
      @Weetunet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@myself8354 There is already such a category: tool-assisted speedrunning.

  • @squishymada
    @squishymada 4 ปีที่แล้ว +591

    "Come on Looper we're about to cut the cake."
    "Just give me 32 seconds!"

    • @michaelenz7039
      @michaelenz7039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hah
      Awesome

    • @jenniferbarangan1502
      @jenniferbarangan1502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      "But we don't have time!"
      "I'm speedrunning the Chasm!"
      "Okay! Okay! We'll wait for you."

  • @eben7248
    @eben7248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1014

    "not by just 1 or 2 seconds, but by *_3 seconds_* "

    • @scanbbb
      @scanbbb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      One second is a lot of improvement in wr speed runs. An extra three seconds is massive.

    • @YituTG
      @YituTG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Especially in a speedrun where the world record is below one minute

    • @Mate_Antal_Zoltan
      @Mate_Antal_Zoltan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mind. Blown.

    • @topwargear
      @topwargear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@YituTGand some records one frame or two frames is a lot

    • @thebe_stone
      @thebe_stone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HOLY FRICK

  • @ChargeJN
    @ChargeJN 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1384

    Demonlord, on The Chasm: “I gotta wash the ledges, I gotta date the ledges, I GOTTA *BE* THE LEDGES!”

    • @SpiralPegasus
      @SpiralPegasus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      GOTTA LEDGE FAST

    • @francopoma2487
      @francopoma2487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      ...AND CUM ON THOSE LEDGES
      Damn!

    • @dl-3780
      @dl-3780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Bruce Lee: Be like water

    • @_j_t_p_
      @_j_t_p_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gotta go quick!

    • @maximusstorm1215
      @maximusstorm1215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is this a SpongeBob reference? Sounds familiar.

  • @AdamCDagg
    @AdamCDagg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +443

    The developing romance between demonlord and the ledges was a welcome twist in his character arc

    • @alahatim
      @alahatim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lols

  • @whatis112-s2i
    @whatis112-s2i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1648

    normal people: Yesss I'm finally done with this level
    speedrunners: *I'll F*ckin do it again*

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      People who think the PAR times for the level were expected to be beaten. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    • @doomfanman5534
      @doomfanman5534 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      this is a goofy meme

    • @kos2919
      @kos2919 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If you watch streaming of speedrunners it's like normal occurrence of restarting the game for every slip up they did. 99% of speedrun stream people tend to talk to each other about random stuff and only 1% when they focus on the screen to see possible record breaking moment

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kos2919 That's one of the many reasons I tend to watch it after the stream. ;)

    • @kos2919
      @kos2919 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gozinta82 but talking to fellow viewers tend to create friendship and great discussion about stuff.

  • @sillypenta
    @sillypenta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1572

    "You just need to know where to run, and be very fast."
    Words to live by

    • @CarbonRollerCaco
      @CarbonRollerCaco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      It really is ironic that FPSes and not Sonic The Hedgehog games are the biggest _speedrunning_ games.

    • @Optimus6128
      @Optimus6128 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      "You just need to look down and haul your ass."

    • @sheilaolfieway1885
      @sheilaolfieway1885 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly if you know the map you can run all the way through the map and I know it well enough to do that.

    • @CarbonRollerCaco
      @CarbonRollerCaco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@voxel9470 In-game doesn't always match in-lore. And _whoosh_

    • @kruppcorp2359
      @kruppcorp2359 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CarbonRollerCaco woooosh*

  • @doozy5184
    @doozy5184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    "Doom is a very fast paced game"
    Me, slowly wandering around maps, looking for health pickups while praying there isn't some demon around a corner: "Yeah right"

    • @meisterfrau99
      @meisterfrau99 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yeah fast paced if you don't care about getting all secrets and kills. Some people don't but I love getting 100% everything

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell ปีที่แล้ว +3

      bruh that ain't the doom experience

    • @brutpenta
      @brutpenta ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dankerbell sure bud, tell that to 90s gamers

    • @Rayer24
      @Rayer24 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@brutpenta
      BUDSTER

    • @ThePhrog714
      @ThePhrog714 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@dankerbelldoom is what you want it to be

  • @SullySadface
    @SullySadface 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1362

    Never stop these. You're very good at explaining and cataloging speedrunning history and breaking down tricks.

    • @MrLondonGo
      @MrLondonGo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Yes and nice touches like not showing the final time until the end of Loopers WR run, excellent content as always.

    • @ChromeTecNina
      @ChromeTecNina 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I love this. As a person who just BARELY got into DOOM Classic in 2018 I've been absolutely obsessed with it. I've been playing it almost exclusively Project Brutality, but the game is incredible no matter how you play it. Watching these makes me love it even more.

    • @VictoryfortheFreeman
      @VictoryfortheFreeman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Are you loss?

    • @bucketdozer5325
      @bucketdozer5325 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VictoryfortheFreeman I think he is.

    • @quarreneverett4767
      @quarreneverett4767 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ChromeTecNina brutal doom and map pack also doom 2 facination

  • @msedlic80
    @msedlic80 5 ปีที่แล้ว +824

    Amazing video Karl, lots of fun memories came out when watching this. History of "The Chasm" was indeed something special, and it is what made me enter that seemingly endless battle for the "optimal" time :). 36 sec run is my personal favorite and hardest run I ever done. It was pure good old sr40 running :). Over the years I've got many positive feedbacks from doom community about my work and it felt good, each time, thanks to everyone for that btw...but man your introduction to me in the video was true blast :). Made me even blush a little and I thank u for that sir. Also I red all the comments. U guys made me realize just how old I am :) but also U made me satisfied to see there are so many of you who still rememeber/play this great game. Seeing this video makes me feel like all those hours spent on playing doom worth something. As a proud father of two young boys now I have something cool to show them, which involves their father youth.

    • @DongHigh
      @DongHigh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Marijo Sedlic An outstanding comment married an outstanding video. Excellent job, one and all. :) :)

    • @lucifugerofocale5847
      @lucifugerofocale5847 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      epic gamer

    • @miketothe2ndpwr
      @miketothe2ndpwr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you make videos anywhere? would love to watch you play just about anything.

    • @necastavasbriga5989
      @necastavasbriga5989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vrhunski odradjeno nema sta, svaka cast

    • @NumberD2000
      @NumberD2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      you're a legend dude

  • @SF3L
    @SF3L 4 ปีที่แล้ว +592

    I noticed something on Looper’s run, when he went through the toxic waste, he only took 5 ticks if damage instead of the other runner’s 6 ticks. That has convinced me that Looper had near perfect movement while running through the the toxic waste.

    • @darkriot98
      @darkriot98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Well, it's possible to get 5 ticks of damage even with SR40, but it requires luck, as toxic waste damages every 0.9s, no matter where doomguy is.
      I know that it's been lots of time, but whatever, just wanted to say the thing :)

    • @umbaupause
      @umbaupause 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@darkriot98 Yeah, but the cycle would always start on the same tic, no? So he must be just that tiny bit faster still.

    • @Krass.Estranged
      @Krass.Estranged 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Having run the level a lot i think it has to with navigating the corners smoothly in sync with the view bob. I can definitely tell which runs i should have 75% and which runs I should have 70% by my own movement.

    • @onikoneko
      @onikoneko ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Keep in mind damage tics aren't determined by when you fall in the toxic waste, but when the level starts, so he could have had more perfected movement *somewhere* in the level that could have offset the time so he could fall in between tics and only get five instead of six.

  • @kjn3350
    @kjn3350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +907

    It's hilarious how the comments are read out like in a documentary of Ancient Rome or something.

  • @nicholasleclerc1583
    @nicholasleclerc1583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    17:53
    Damn, imagine being one of the early, mid-90s Doom speed-runners hearing this :
    “GoD i WaS dUmB bAcK tHeN, tAlKiNg AbOuT 38 bEiNg OpTiMaL”

    • @nicholasleclerc1583
      @nicholasleclerc1583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      18:00
      "[His] 0:37 was amazing, but again, it wasn't perfect."

    • @SeaSerpentLevi
      @SeaSerpentLevi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Gotta love old days internet lol
      Thats pretty much every forum in a nutshell
      in art comunities you would see people talking things like "uh, that was like a 10 min sketch, i really was not paying attention to it while doing, actually it was not even me doing, i gave a pencil to my grandma for her to hold with her feet and then telling her what to do, and all this while doing pushups. OBS: I was not even at home.... But yeah didnt turned out good, still wanted to share this piece of crap but it isnt really my best", and then the piece: A fucking masterpiece you would need 1 month to paint xD
      God i did a ton of exageration here xD I got a bit carried away by nostalgia.
      Sometimes it could get fucking toxic but then, to some extent, is impossible not to miss those times.

    • @SeaSerpentLevi
      @SeaSerpentLevi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maliant16 sorry?

  • @roryos
    @roryos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Need to appreciate the fact DOOM used demo files for recordings so even 2 and a half decades later we can see exactly what those players did down to the exact input. It's like a nostalgic time capsule.

  • @aoeji
    @aoeji 5 ปีที่แล้ว +563

    A few things.
    1: Demonlord is a legend. He was the one who invented this speedrun.
    2: Sedlo is amazing. I could not get anywhere close to his runs even with years of practice.
    3: Looper is a god at this game. let the numbers speak for themselves.
    4: it's kinda amazing that even after all these years, doom is still one of the spookiest first-person shooters out there.
    I hope you all have a good day, and Especially you, Looper, if you're reading this.

    • @lyca0n535
      @lyca0n535 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I would call them all insane, speedrunning looks so weird to us normies just trying to enjoy games non masochistically 😂

    • @stefanm.734
      @stefanm.734 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Demonlord also lost his mind, judging by his final message.
      "The secret is to really love those ledges.. And I do."
      "...I started to love ledges, all of them.. and they me. They let me through with a time of 45."

    • @ThomasMink
      @ThomasMink 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@stefanm.734 Probably played more Chasm than all of us normies combined to get that 45.. and with that other guy throwing the slight jab out there saying that Demonlord could only maybe beat the 48 by a second or two.. dude probably held back submitting some 46 and 47 runs just out of spite.

    • @dl-3780
      @dl-3780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ThomasMink I probably did. But it was still just for fun at the time. An obsession to some degree perheps, but not anywhere near the Sedlo, Looper runs..

    • @DFFilmmaker
      @DFFilmmaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dl-3780 are you even real? -_-

  • @This_side_of_the_internet
    @This_side_of_the_internet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1542

    Demons be like:
    I think someone entered our domain a few minutes ago.
    Not sure.
    All i've seen was a green flash...

    • @faizan8679
      @faizan8679 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Jorge C. M. be like

    • @This_side_of_the_internet
      @This_side_of_the_internet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@JorgetePanete
      Yeah, i used "be like" as a reference to one old gag.
      And this sentence don't work with are*.
      "Demons are scary\stinky\sexy\angry.
      Or you can say: Demons are very surpriced, because someone...
      But in my case i meant:
      "Demons would say something like".

    • @want-diversecontent3887
      @want-diversecontent3887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Jorge C. M.
      Congratulations, this is definitely not a joke and you corrected someone! You deserve anything gou want!

    • @This_side_of_the_internet
      @This_side_of_the_internet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@want-diversecontent3887 I want a hug.

    • @This_side_of_the_internet
      @This_side_of_the_internet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @christakisf Christakisf aww, thanks mate!
      Here, have it back!

  • @dafi1790
    @dafi1790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1401

    Demonlord walked so they can run :')

    • @SeaSerpentLevi
      @SeaSerpentLevi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      true legend

    • @Oceancat01
      @Oceancat01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      And then he full on sprinted when they started running

    • @shhs1227
      @shhs1227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I mean he took everything he learned from their runs and did better basically every time

    • @prgalois
      @prgalois 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So cute

    • @NootalieWalf
      @NootalieWalf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Super underrated comment

  • @eggofwah4852
    @eggofwah4852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +627

    i was rooting for demonlord the whole time.
    i'm glad he had a happy ending

    • @chchedda
      @chchedda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Did he go to a Thai brothel?

    • @Kayalter
      @Kayalter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      ''He is now living a happy life with ledges''

    • @SeaSerpentLevi
      @SeaSerpentLevi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@chchedda more like Thai Ledgethel

    • @Artician
      @Artician 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SeaSerpentLevi lmao

    • @Kourumeme
      @Kourumeme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      He’s like late 40s now. Heck, most of the doom speed runners back then are like old, on their late 30s to 40s.

  • @joshkary5040
    @joshkary5040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    "This is the epitome of human kind achievement, and I cannot think of a more literal perfect run ever existing. Everyone can begin marveling at how far life has taken us."
    "Two days later the record was taken down by 15 seconds."

  • @Vextrove
    @Vextrove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    I love how Sedlo stuck with his vision and kept running the ledges

    • @hat1324
      @hat1324 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The balls on that guy lol
      "new strat? Hold that thought, need to get WR with the old strat first"
      And then immediately gets 0:34 with the new strat once business is settled

    • @Rocky712_
      @Rocky712_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hat1324 Especially because it took him 1.5yrs after the discovery of the new strat + the time he grinded before the strategy was discovered.

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Random little thing i love about Sedlo's 37 sec run; in it, he runs thru the item pickups that DemonLord originally went out of his way to pickup, before findin out he didnt need to pick them up at all
      Its nice to see that part come full circle from a part of the run that was a time loss to go out of the way to pick it up; but now its a time loss to go out of the way to avoid pickin it up xD

  • @sl9sl9
    @sl9sl9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +338

    I thought I'd seen it all in speedrunning. Crazy glitches, out of bounds, disassembling game code to find any advantage. But finding and abusing a rare rounding error in the trigonometry code? That is some seriously next level shit! And even that wasn't enough, he discovered and used a second brand new technique (pink demon 'bouncing' or momentum conservation) in the same section of the same run. And all this Herculean effort just managed to save 1 second. ONE SECOND. I'll just leave that there to let it sink in.

    • @subtlewookiee
      @subtlewookiee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Check out SMB1 speedruns that are so insanely optimized that they have tricks that require 3-4 frame perfect setups to save 0.35 seconds, or even just a few frames. I used to think SMB1 speedruns were boring until I realized just how insanely talented and determined these runners are.

    • @exantiuse497
      @exantiuse497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I assume you haven't seen the video on Mario 64 tool assisted speedrun. That's even crazier than this
      Granted it's not done just to save 1 second but still...

    • @tyrelnorgaard1530
      @tyrelnorgaard1530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Speed runners will spent 100 hours to save 1 second!!

    • @ade8890
      @ade8890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well to be fair, it's not like they were code scrumming and found the exploit. They experienced a scenario where running along the wall made them faster, rather than slower, then sought to find the underlying cause of the bug to enable them to maximize the exploit where ever possible.

  • @poppers7317
    @poppers7317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    "maybe I don't take the time to get the rad suit and just lose some hp"
    like a caveman who just discovered fire in comparison to the later runs

  • @magencrisis1682
    @magencrisis1682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    "Kai's record would only last four days"
    The eternal speedrunner curse.

    • @borkerman
      @borkerman ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The record did a speesrun of it's own

  • @user-gw8kh1dx4c
    @user-gw8kh1dx4c 5 ปีที่แล้ว +355

    The last Doom vid was one of the best pieces you've ever made. I'm glad you're making more content on this legendary game.

  • @stug3719
    @stug3719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Man, I really admire Sedlo's commitment to perfecting one map. He practiced it for years and kept improving. That's awesome.

    • @heimdall1973
      @heimdall1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's just hope some compete, whatever the competition. The professional hurdle runners, mountain bikers, whatever, will put loads of effort, training, perfecting techniques, eat food with perfect nutritional value etc. just to gain a fraction of a second... It's just how seriously you take the competition, and that's exactly what game speedruns are, a series of competitions. And just like some athletes will inject illegal performance boosting substances, some game speedrunners will use performance boosting slowed down engine or other cheats just to be able to put their name where it doesn't belong.

  • @cupcakethesabertooth6802
    @cupcakethesabertooth6802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    Doom guy: *running across ledges at high speed and riding walls*
    Demons: *W-what?* **visual confusion**

    • @heimdall1973
      @heimdall1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Hey, he just squeezed past me to grab the red key!

    • @ashurad_fox5991
      @ashurad_fox5991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      N-nani?! Strafe Run Dorifto!!!

    • @michaelenz7039
      @michaelenz7039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      demons: wait doom guy can wallrun?
      Doom guy: always could have.

  • @euge1889
    @euge1889 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    You've put your heart and soul into making this video.
    Commentary: 10/10✔
    Explanations about game mechanics for dummies like me: 10/10✔
    It even has chronological arrangement. You definitely got my like

  • @kritz9997
    @kritz9997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    23:48
    “The record remained-“
    Me: Good Job Sedlo, the final best speedru-
    “Until 2004”
    Me: WHEN DOES IT END

  • @portal2kid
    @portal2kid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Other speedrunners: (in-depth 5 paragraph analysis of their run, saying every blemish they made and that they could have optimized.
    Pilger: “I really hate those ledges.”

  • @mastermind4499
    @mastermind4499 5 ปีที่แล้ว +615

    2019: Doom Eternal will have platforming? This is not Doom, this sucks!
    1994: The Chasm (exists)

    • @BattleBladeWarrior
      @BattleBladeWarrior 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Watching this video just reminded me of that. Doom 2 had a ton of platforming actually. And "set piece" levels like barrels O fun. So I gotta stop knocking Doom Eternal so hard :D

    • @thejfk_experience490
      @thejfk_experience490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I haven't seen a single person complain about doom eternals platforming. In fact, everyone seems to love it

    • @josephellis8501
      @josephellis8501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Soller its not that it had platforming, it was how the platforming was implemented

    • @majamystic256
      @majamystic256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love the chasm

    • @Octave_Rolland
      @Octave_Rolland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doom 2 is quirky. If anything, the fact that it features platforming would confirm that platforming in a Doom game is quirky.

  • @medicindisquise4271
    @medicindisquise4271 5 ปีที่แล้ว +421

    "The secret is to love those ledges..."
    *one speedrun later*
    I REALLY hate those ledges

    • @sufoh9913
      @sufoh9913 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @Yunus EMRE What?

    • @sharpen193
      @sharpen193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sufoh9913 report them for unwanted content

    • @nmmeswey3584
      @nmmeswey3584 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sharpen193 you must be fun at parties

    • @sharpen193
      @sharpen193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@nmmeswey3584 What?? If a dude comes in like that in my party, we all kicking him out lmao

    • @lennyface5314
      @lennyface5314 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Yunus EMRE Is this a copy pasta meme or something?

  • @MrNachoChannel
    @MrNachoChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    This video was beyond fascinating. Watching the complete history of a speed run for a particular map really showed how intricate these things are. As an outsider with only passing knowledge of the community this really opened my eyes to how much passion is given to it. Kudos to this video.

  • @ABCkirja
    @ABCkirja 5 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    i'm so speechless of what a system id software had implemented with the recordings, all the way back in those times. not just the recordings even, but also messages by users and some additional files. that's crazy, way ahead of their time.
    the way how well the video is made with the good journalist taste, it's like a documentary between the great slayers of past days who are now mostly closer to middle-aged men, to say the least.
    maybe in a 100 years, when games will be holograms or microchips for you to close your eyes and play, these DOOM recordings will be like the holy scriptures of gaming.

    • @dl-3780
      @dl-3780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And don't forget Death Match and how revolutionizing that was in it's own. Doom 2 was, is, and will always be the greatest game ever made.

    • @meyes5671
      @meyes5671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The guys at ID said they were making the best game of all time during pre-release and they fucking delivered.

    • @spitgorge2021
      @spitgorge2021 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dl-3780 certainly the most revolutionary game, but the title of best is purely a subjective matter.

  • @TheEloheim
    @TheEloheim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    Those text descriptions by the runners are amazing documentation!

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 3 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    It's really mind blowing to see how much time and effort that went into improving this particular speedrun

    • @Schrodingers_kid
      @Schrodingers_kid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still want green beard?

    • @kenjinuma
      @kenjinuma 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      See what I mean, eveywhere.

    • @williamdavila6702
      @williamdavila6702 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      min bloguin*

    • @dragonclaw4159
      @dragonclaw4159 ปีที่แล้ว

      I went to his channel. His channel description is just some guy who comments for fun. He has one video with 4.1 million views. That's why he's verified.

  • @prkr3944
    @prkr3944 5 ปีที่แล้ว +398

    Me: I should really go to bed
    TH-cam: 30 minute doom speedrunning video?
    Me: Yeah thats sounds good

    • @Moley1Moleo
      @Moley1Moleo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You can save a lot of frames by watching it at 2x speed.

    • @awdrifter3394
      @awdrifter3394 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And looper did the speed run in 16 seconds.

    • @Falkdr
      @Falkdr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that was me 30 min. ago :D

    • @HannahFortalezza
      @HannahFortalezza 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ugh this is me tonight wtf

    • @BattleBladeWarrior
      @BattleBladeWarrior 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A 30 minute documentary about a 32 second run. Thats just. . . I don't even know what to say :D

  • @TanskanDogi
    @TanskanDogi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +483

    Wait that was 30 minutes dude I've seen 5 minute clips longer than this. Entertaining as hell

    • @ColeBentley117
      @ColeBentley117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Damn didn’t notice till u pointed it out

    • @DrMurdercock
      @DrMurdercock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Holy shit, that was 30 minutes? Wtf. Does it glitch out an skip or something? That was supppppppppppppper weird.

    • @marshroverv5632
      @marshroverv5632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      [KING CRIMSON]

    • @richcast66
      @richcast66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      IKR. I legit thought it was 18 minutes or something

    • @intensellylit4100
      @intensellylit4100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The laws of time disagree.

  • @PermianExtinction
    @PermianExtinction 4 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    Doom speedrunners playing this level and getting to the walkway section:
    HELLO YOU ABSOLUTE LEDGES

    • @nintendude794
      @nintendude794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lololol

    • @nintendude794
      @nintendude794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These Ledges really are in a League Of their own...

    • @e-102gammaboitheepicdoomer7
      @e-102gammaboitheepicdoomer7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Decino should've included the ledges in his doom 2 nightmare tier list (I know the tier list only includes monsters)

  • @a3msty
    @a3msty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Never thought a speedrun video of a game I didn't play at all would keep my eyes on the screen for 30 minutes, nice video!

    • @ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106
      @ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You haven't played DooM?
      *passive aggressively types comment

    • @a3msty
      @a3msty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 lol, actually, I played, but not a lot. The computer I used to play the game broke and never played doom since then.

    • @ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106
      @ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@a3msty oh dude thats a rip right there

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      With todays sourceports you can run it on modern hardware without issue. And the mods are endless.

    • @junkylemur6755
      @junkylemur6755 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SpiRiT514 looking at this video fills you with DETERMINATION

  • @tylersmith9942
    @tylersmith9942 5 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    [Me at multiple parts in the video]: Ok... THIS must be the fastest time ever!
    Karl Jobst: Well yes, but actually no

    • @v3ck1n
      @v3ck1n 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmfao

    • @JamesClark1991
      @JamesClark1991 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

    • @samwai3762
      @samwai3762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      me: that's fast maybe this is the best ??
      Looks at the video: only halfway done
      ohhhh noo

  • @gort6969
    @gort6969 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is genuinely one of the best videos i've ever seen. I don't know what it is, but it just has a special place in my heart.

  • @EZScape
    @EZScape 5 ปีที่แล้ว +465

    Another video from an ABSOLUTE LEGEND

    • @adam21097
      @adam21097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When is your next video EZScape?

    • @EZScape
      @EZScape 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@adam21097 in like an hour lmao

    • @marthmain1710
      @marthmain1710 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      oh, he wasnt joking

    • @pixyl4415
      @pixyl4415 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *LEDGEnd

    • @rolandkertesz4196
      @rolandkertesz4196 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      *LEDGEnd

  • @AaronWeberGA
    @AaronWeberGA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    "So sit back, and relax."
    **corrects posture, becomes tense.**

    • @clockworkkirlia7475
      @clockworkkirlia7475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@980765 Counterpoint: correcting it helps if you've been slouched for a while. Having correct posture isn't the vital bit as far as I'm aware; making sure that you're not in the same position for hours is. Your overall point is correct (I think) but, contextually, it's more nuanced.

    • @GeneralBays
      @GeneralBays 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Брандон Кeллeр You should look up videos on Chiropractic practices in the home. Don't do anything that hurts, and stretch before doing any self-chiropractics. Also, a body in motion, stays in motion. We are meant to actually keep moving and not stay still for hours/days/weeks/months/years/decades. As a sedentary person, I don't go anywhere much, and I have lost a lot of muscle from my military days.
      When you sit still for a long time, your muscles will eventually seize up, we call this being stiff. Stretching for more than 60 seconds gives you a full stretch, and if you hold it for over 120 seconds, you muscle will fully release and allow you to achieve a better stretch.
      I have been working on getting myself to be more active, and this is what I have learned along the way.

  • @Kapin05
    @Kapin05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Perhaps The Chasm could be a useful training tool for speedrunners looking to optimise their movement. It forces you to run a path with confidence and precision, which is a skill that could apply well to more barren levels.

  • @therandomdot2563
    @therandomdot2563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Watching this like "why isn't he bunny-hopping?" Then I remember old-school Doom didn't have jumping. I'm so used to modern games having jumping and seeing every gamer bunny-hopping everywhere (either for speed advantage or just screwing around) that seeing Doom w/o bunny-hopping struck me as odd.. then I remembered it never had it.

    • @ikagura
      @ikagura 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      bhopping has vanished from most of the modern fps

    • @jadynh5402
      @jadynh5402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ikagura yeah, many seem to mimic real life and more jumping = you get slow af. Like Battlefield 5.

    • @llSuperSnivyll
      @llSuperSnivyll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      While watching the first of Demonlord's runs I was like "Why isn't he jumping? ... oh, wait, he can't here"

    • @chrismckee6742
      @chrismckee6742 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ikagura including DOOM Eternal it seems

    • @ikagura
      @ikagura 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrismckee6742 Quake Champions as well?

  • @xXAlexOrWhateverXx
    @xXAlexOrWhateverXx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I love the sportsmanship between these players. As an outsider to the community, they feel like a group of friends encouraging each other instead of fighting against each other.

  • @nnelg8139
    @nnelg8139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1428

    I suppose you could call these runs...
    LEDGEndary.

    • @CanadianCat64
      @CanadianCat64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      your going to hell for that one

    • @Agenta-df3gb
      @Agenta-df3gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Ha ha ha ha. Here, have a thumbs up.

    • @BobberTheWiseYTP
      @BobberTheWiseYTP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I'm just a lost soul doomed by these puns

    • @maddoxstar5351
      @maddoxstar5351 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      what have you done

    • @maxscott3349
      @maxscott3349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nicholas Bos they're here

  • @davidribeiro
    @davidribeiro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    "this time, I practiced a lot!"
    Yeah.. because before you were just slacking off.

    • @SeaSerpentLevi
      @SeaSerpentLevi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      gotta love those early internet days type of coments xD

  • @Destro65
    @Destro65 4 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    "The only one to complete a UV pacifist run of underhalls was ZeroMaster"
    decino: **laughs in mastermind**

    • @CoolGamer-qz5zp
      @CoolGamer-qz5zp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Great refenece

    • @ThunderStruck115
      @ThunderStruck115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm pretty sure decino said he had to abuse save states

  • @Timeward76
    @Timeward76 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Sedlo's 36 wasnt about being the world record. It was about being art. It was about being the absolute best. It was about achieving absolute perfection. And I can respect that.

  • @Zelinkokitsune
    @Zelinkokitsune 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I won't lie just thinking of doing that stage casually is nerve-wracking, to see them just obliterate it in under a minute it utter madness. I knew Doom could get crazy with the pursuit for speed but this was just insane to watch!

  • @PolygonDonut
    @PolygonDonut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These videos are such adventures to watch, very well put together and truly gives me an appreciation for ever single technique these incredibly high level runs use and how those techniques developed overtime.

  • @gozinta82
    @gozinta82 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I always laughed at the "Par Times" at the end level tally screen. Never expected them to actually be beaten by speed runners.

    • @unablenarwal8863
      @unablenarwal8863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      gozinta82 the par times were actually the fastest possible runs that John romaro could achieve

    • @KineticManiac
      @KineticManiac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@unablenarwal8863 Correction: Fastest possible time he could achieve rounded off (down to a multiple of 15, I assume), and added 30.

  • @Sombody123
    @Sombody123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +480

    The idea of pacifist Doomguy sounds all kinds of wrong...

    • @totaldestruction152
      @totaldestruction152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      He's probably got a dentist appointment. He'll deal with the demons later.

    • @roadroller8851
      @roadroller8851 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      He needs to find a bathroom

    • @Minnevan
      @Minnevan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He gave the demons an IOU

    • @Z3R0Steam
      @Z3R0Steam 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@septum_funk stop

    • @hugebuffman3619
      @hugebuffman3619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@septum_funk toooxic

  • @kelvinnueveanimeguitar1983
    @kelvinnueveanimeguitar1983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    You know your content is great when someone like me who has no interest and never played doom and no really into speed running watched the whole video through

    • @lisahenry20
      @lisahenry20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same. Except I've watched this video multiple times, I keep coming back to it. It's possibly one of my favourite videos.

  • @ThomasfromDenmark1
    @ThomasfromDenmark1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    1:35, and I am completely into the video.
    You sir, have a great talent for building up a suspence in a short matter of time.
    Marvelous intro.
    Kind regards
    Thomas from Denmark

  • @briankarcher8338
    @briankarcher8338 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Regarding the wall running glitch, the reason it happens is basically this:
    1) When the player is running very fast in a particular direction there was a chance the player could run through a wall. This was because their collider could pass through the wall between frames. This is an extremely common issue in games even to this day. It is fixed by either adding in-between collision steps, or a raycast. Doom chose an extra collision step.
    2) To correct for this the Doom engine, when detecting the player running fast in two particular angles, inserts an extra collision step in the middle of the movement. Two collision checks happen for the frame now but with half values so everything evens out in the end.
    3) This fixes it! You can't run through walls anymore. However there is a bug in the wall sliding function. It uses the non-halved speed values and runs that twice. It should have been using the halved values like the other functions in the collision detection.
    4) Doom guy runs double speed.
    Example: You're running at a speed of 16 units per frame. The game says wait! Too fast! Let's run collision twice with a speed of 8 units each.
    P_SlideMove says screw that and uses the speed of 16 instead of 8. Since it runs twice, Doomguy moves 32 units this frame instead of the desired 16.
    There's more complex math involved but this is the gist of it.

  • @dbturbonub2536
    @dbturbonub2536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was only 12-13 years old in 96 but I used to get so scared because I get deeply emotionally attached to most games I play, I used to try and blaze through them. If only I knew about these speed runs back then! Watching this really brings back some memories! Great video as always!!!

    • @TetraKael
      @TetraKael 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can't be too old to speedrun. Give it a chance sometimes. The community is very helpful in terms of tips and tricks..

  • @NVE
    @NVE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Bet those ledges got alot easier once optical mice hit the scene in 99 lol

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yes, wanted to say same, it ran also smoother on 99 and later computers. 96 playrs had to handicapped playing it on 486. also playing it o n ports with 100 fps, is advantage over software doom capped at 35 fps.

  • @melikkhelifa
    @melikkhelifa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    I wonder if Demonlord, Anthe & Sedlo and the others will see this video.
    That would be really cool!

    • @henningskogstoe2700
      @henningskogstoe2700 5 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      I actually just did :) this is a great video. I remember beeing proud of getting it down under 0:40 finally. Lets remember it was trackball mouses around then..so you had to open it up and clean the rollers constantly because of the precision needed on those ledges ;) Also running doom2 v1.9.exe under native DOS with them mouse drivers :)
      I actually tried hard getting it back, however implementing the north east trick to skip the last ledge running I never managed consistantly enough. Sedlo is a legendary speedrunner and a master..the 0:36 is art in motion.

    • @voltakid4859
      @voltakid4859 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henningskogstoe2700 do you perhaps have a twitter or facebook?

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      back in our days, even mice had balls!

    • @Sh1bble
      @Sh1bble 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@henningskogstoe2700 My god it didn't even cross my mind people were using trackballs with the date most of these records were set, precise with those mice is crazy to me thinking about it.

    • @voltakid4859
      @voltakid4859 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sh1bble same!

  • @davigurgel2040
    @davigurgel2040 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I never played a doom game in my life, and i don't speedrun, yet youtube recommended it to me. And i loved it lol. Some people just have a way of telling stories that makes any topic interesting to anyone

  • @formdusktilldeath
    @formdusktilldeath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You really need to be in a zen like mind state to straferun on those ledges. Mad respect.
    Also: This wallrunning is something! Game engines and their quirks never cease to amaze me.

  • @chasedavis6724
    @chasedavis6724 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is the one single video that got me into loving speed running

  • @maxcomstock1831
    @maxcomstock1831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    It’s so surreal to me that i wasn’t even alive when the earliest records were set

  • @Ryan432120
    @Ryan432120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Lost Soul 1 : Every so often im seeing many marines Running Around on thoes ledges.
    Lost Soul 2 : Why they are soo desperate to pass by those areas ?, beats me.
    Lost Soul 3 : Yeah, Another One Bites the dust.

  • @Knights_of_the_Nine
    @Knights_of_the_Nine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Those ledges broke that man.
    RIP DemonLord.

    • @infu7248
      @infu7248 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      rip? Why?

    • @iceice1295
      @iceice1295 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      cus he died

    • @infu7248
      @infu7248 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iceice1295 He killed himself?

    • @iceice1295
      @iceice1295 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No he just died

    • @Falkdr
      @Falkdr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iceice1295 when was that?

  • @cm1557
    @cm1557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This guy really makes these videos interesting with the amount of details and explanations. Well done. Suddenly I wanna be a video game speed runner.

  • @SammoElite
    @SammoElite 5 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    ABSOLUTE
    LEDGES

    • @soulhunger1
      @soulhunger1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Godlike comment

    • @vbgvbg1133
      @vbgvbg1133 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I FUCKING CAN’T WITH THIS PIN

    • @BIGMIKEREC
      @BIGMIKEREC 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the winner.

  • @GigaLem
    @GigaLem 5 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    The Chasm, aka "Super Monkey Ball Doom Edition"

    • @ShenDoodles
      @ShenDoodles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Doomguy doesn't fall out. The ground's scared of him.

    • @clockworkkirlia7475
      @clockworkkirlia7475 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahahaha maybe they should try to cross-pollinate some runners between the games.

  • @aschlamishowsup
    @aschlamishowsup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember this video. It's great. I really like these speedrun progression stories because only insiders have all this info and it's really great to somewhat tap into the drama we missed out on. So very detailed and informative, I love it

  • @BIGMIKEREC
    @BIGMIKEREC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    OK, know this is gonna be buried, but really think about this:
    You went from 5,000 (when I became aware of this channel) to 50,000 in under two months.
    You're blowing up my man.

    • @fakehax3984
      @fakehax3984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he speedran reaching 100k subs

  • @deathdogfanboy1970
    @deathdogfanboy1970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I love your videos dude

  • @ryannorman8898
    @ryannorman8898 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I absolutely love your videos. Whenever I’m having anxiety or get depressed these videos help me so much. Thanks 😊

  • @Orbital_Dew
    @Orbital_Dew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    not only by 1 or 2 seconds
    me: *Holy shiiiitt, how much faster did he make it*
    but 3 seconds
    ...... baited .....

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      instead of Rip and Tear
      its all
      Skip in Fear

    • @Akira.0.
      @Akira.0. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's still a lot in speedrunning

    • @dl-3780
      @dl-3780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha, that's great editing by Jobst! Ask Sedlo or Looper if 3 secs. is alot...

  • @SolemnBravadoReal
    @SolemnBravadoReal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I can hear Civvie-11 screaming "THANKS SANDY!" Right about now. Lol

    • @MrTheil
      @MrTheil 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Solemn Bravado Ayy I love Civvie

  • @alessandragonzales8190
    @alessandragonzales8190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This has quickly become one of my favourite videos. I put it on as background noise when I'm doing chores because I never get tired of hearing about this speedrun.

  • @lolno6975
    @lolno6975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This feels like a summoning salt video. And I love those.

  • @clearspira
    @clearspira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    LOL I can almost hear Demonlord's thoughts during this video. ''You're pretty good... but i'm better.''
    And then Sedlo came along and he was like ''you're pretty good... yeah...''

    • @dl-3780
      @dl-3780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When Sedlo started playing Compet-n for real, as well as others, Skogsto and some finns I had actually left this game, last time I played it seriously was in -97, but interest was fading, or rather I had to move on with my life.

  • @GB-mi5he
    @GB-mi5he 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is my favorite vid from Karl. I've watched it over 15 times at this point :)

  • @Guayabaman305
    @Guayabaman305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The real record was the absolute legends we met along the way.

  • @masterluxu1
    @masterluxu1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can we just a minute to appreciate that demonlord set the time at 1:58. Then through the fire of competition was able to push it down to less than a minute.
    That had to be a good day for him 😃

  • @tshassb4636
    @tshassb4636 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    8:31 that gameplay went from 0 to 100 in a millisecond

  • @r-pupz7032
    @r-pupz7032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't even really play games but I LOVE speedrunning. Just goes to show you don't have to play the games to enjoy the sport, much like you don't need to play football to enjoy watching it!
    I used to play Doom a ton as a kid, but I enjoy watching speedrunners in all kind of games I've never played (no time at this point in my life, I'm a junior doctor.)
    Thank you so much for the amazing content! The technical skill of speedrunning and the community around it is inspiring and fascinating, thank you for bringing it to a new audience :D

  • @ireneparkin3360
    @ireneparkin3360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The Chasm is a bit of a troll for filling sections of the map in. There's a section that has a God mode sphere in it (I think it counts towards the secrets total), the thing only goes up way slow so that by the time you get back up, the God mode sphere has ended. Another time is right at the end when you get to the door that leads to the exit, as soon as you reach the aforementioned door, half of the last section raises up just to troll you.
    Edit:- will we see a sub 30 second Chasm?

    • @clockworkkirlia7475
      @clockworkkirlia7475 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As to your edit, it seems like that would require a completely new strategy. Optimisation alone isn't going to get this, I don't think.

  • @lauravturner
    @lauravturner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw this video when it came out. Still couldn't resist clicking it. This video is one of the best on this channel, which is saying something because there are so many great videos on this channel. I appreciate the effort you put in and I always anticipate your next project.

  • @Budabaii
    @Budabaii 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    old school doom speedrunning had such a cool community. not that i was involved, but the way it is described has a sort of mystical property to it.

    • @hunters.dicicco1410
      @hunters.dicicco1410 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Wendall Mickelson mystical is a great way to describe it, esoteric even. like an ancient clan of wizards convening on a particular goal

    • @totallynotzokix11_mc21
      @totallynotzokix11_mc21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And oddly friendly. You think that they'd be pissed some guy kept coming every week and beating their record but they just kept getting better and better.

    • @robrot404
      @robrot404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@totallynotzokix11_mc21 Yeah. you could see in the video how speedrunners compliment each other and praise each other for each new record.

    • @clockworkkirlia7475
      @clockworkkirlia7475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@totallynotzokix11_mc21 I love that about speedrunning. I'm no expert but it seems like it's always been a big friendly pot of really cool self-competitive people occasionally ruined by some over-competitive eejit who leaves a sour taste in the mouth.