Femi Oluwole asks Save Our Statues co-founder: Would you keep a statue of Jimmy Saville?
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- "Would you have a statue of Jimmy Saville up? Would that be ok?"
Femi Oluwole asks Save Our Statues co-founder if she would keep a statue of Jimmy Saville up on her local high street.
Emma Webb believes statues of people with 'ambiguous records', like Edward Colston in Bristol, should remain in the public realm so we can "accept our history".
While other campaigners would like to see them taken down and shown on display in museums.
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BBC and Eric Gill statue..don't see the left pulling that one down. I wonder why??
#awkward
Exactly.
The BBC are besotted by art history.
He’s a melt. Virtue signaller of the highest order
...& highly privileged. I wonder when Femi will show gratitude to Britain?
No he's malicous
Ok boomer
Could you clarify what you mean?
Femi is one the weapons used to champion the cause for reparations for slavery. One wonders with people like him if he thinks our country is so vile why the bloody hell does he live here ? , we know because we are stupid enough to put up with him.
The bbc have a jimmy Savile statue
Alex Belfield says HELLO 😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😂😂😂😂
He's just a puppet, not a real little boy.
Why should we idolize someone that doesn't represent the values of our society
This clown Femi is an embarrassment to his nation of origin. Nigerians are very proud and masculine people, not snivelling little Lefties that taken it up the rear…
@@Nicolas-lg6ys only ideologues want society to be a reflection of their values
@@GQ2593 If you would keep a statue of Jimmy Saville that's probably something you should see a therapist for.
But yeah I'm pretty sure slavery isn't a value that makes up the fabric of this nation. If everyone's in agreeance that slavery is bad why are we still revering someone that was integral to its practice
@@Nicolas-lg6ys there are statues of Michael Jackson, nobody cares. Slavery was a regular business just like it's now in parts of Africa. The black guy only pretends to care because he is acting out vengeful racial hatred against whites.
Why don't you do a piece about an journalist that has been harrassed by the police? His name is Alex Belfield.
They should. He's won every case in court as far as I know.
Hey Femi, Would you keep a statue of Martin Luther King Jr. knowing that he took part in a sexual assault? Would you keep a statue of Malcolm X knowing that he was anti-Semitic and an advocate of segregation? Would you name an airport after Shaka Zulu knowing that he was responsible for the murder of 1.5 million Africans during the Mfecane? Would you allow a mosque to be built, when you know it stands as a tribute to the legacy of Mohammed who was a slave owner and responsible for implementing the Islamic slave trade, which enslaved 14 million Africans?
Edward Colston didn’t kill anyone. He owned shares in the Royal African Company for 10 years of his 83 year life. He spent the majority of his life involved in philanthropy, building schools, alms houses, and charitable foundations that are still in operation today. That’s why a statue was erected to him in the 1890’s.
Great comment 👍🏻
True. But tbh I don't imagine femi has the wherewithall to understand any of that or see how he is being used: I get the impression he's just a shill reading a script, whether he realises it or not.
@@jackspring7709 I think you’re right.
He is just a little cretin and I think racist himself. He loves attacking British history, which is of course our white culture. He hates white culture I think
Femi couldn't answer that....not could he answer for his African countrymen....possibly some of his own ancestors who sold their countrymen into slavery.....which they did!
What is striking about Femi is that he made a name for himself campaigning for Remain and now argues for every woke/anti-British/anti Western position on every topic.. he is the typical of the faux progressive, liberal left we have to suffer.. arguing dishonestly on every subject. Take this one, his Jimmy Saville point: slavery was a global institution in every culture and society on the planet (until Britain ended her practice of it), but pedophilia wasn’t!!!
I take your point about the air head, but not the statement that "Britain ended her practice of it". It was the Royal Navy and British diplomacy that ended the practice in all European countries. The statues are part of the history of England, warts and all. It's only those who want to subvert historical truth, England and the English who seek to erase them.
*Woke is Communism*
Can we have the true discussion about the current slave trade and lets leave our history alone.
No
Thats a good point. You cant change the past. But more is being said about the historical slave trade, then what happens in the present day. If this Femi dude was really concerned about slavery he would be talking about the current middle eastern slave trade.
Not on the BBC.
Ph yes let's deflect. We may as well let all rapists get away with rape and concentrate on current rapists
Vile Vine falsely accusing Alex Belfield and is now trying to silence him.
How's it going for Belltap these days?
@@slaterslater5944 *I can almost hear the Curb theme playing.* 🤣
I would suggest Edward Coulson operated within the law at the time, Jimmy Saville didn't, there seems to be a difference and it's not a good comparison. In my opinion. Retrospectively Edward Coulson was a bad person but that's by today's standards, tearing down his statue seems to be an attempt to alter history and to 'pretend' that he didn't exist, I feel that this is a dangerous road to walk
Edward Colston was not a good person at the time by any stretch of the imagination. He was just an evil person in a society where the majority were just as evil. No good person, in any era, thinks enslaving other people for profit is a good thing to do.
It's a VERY dangerous road. Those who deny/ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Leftards are too stupid to figure that out.🙄
So because killing and enslaving ppl was legal that makes them different? Hitler operated within German law, but you don’t see people erecting and defending statues of him
It doesn't matter at all whether or not he was a 'bad person'. I'm pretty sure nearly every single military leader in the history of the world was a 'bad person' by our standards. This doesn't mean we should erase all sight of them from our public buildings and streets.
What matters is the object itself i.e. the statue has artistic, historic, and aesthetic value which should be preserved for future generations.
"History is complex" I think I love the way this lady thinks.
her parents must likely are racist
This Emma is emotionally cold
Put it in a history book and leave it there in a book then…..England’s wealth is based on raping the world
*Goodness, how easily-impressed you are.*
Hang on he might off been a bad man but didn't he leave his will to the city of Bristol.
Look everyone on the left think the whole country is evil and raaaacist! Femi is the epitome of this🤬
@@barneyrubble8590 That's very near the mark regarding the modern Left. And it has a strong racial element to it as well. It is the successor of the earlier attack on "Little Englanders"...only far more intense.
@@trackdusty I’m married to a Pakistani and we both think this country is a good place to live happily compared to many other countries so I just wish the left would stop putting this country down and speak of the good things that his has done and got to offer nowadays.
@@barneyrubble8590 What you and other sensible people in Britain and the West in general confront is a continuous organised subversion executed by the Left and the most of the Mass Media.
@@trackdusty that why the woke are referred to as "leftards"....they are stupid & nauseating 🤢
Well said lady. Femi doesn’t appear to understand her points.
That’s because he’s not sharp enough to understand her😂..god knows why he gets so much air time on msm
@@barneyrubble8590 I think he honestly made a fool of her, she hardly understands the words coming out of her mouth
She made no points. She sounded like a bumbling fool
She avoided his question?! The host said it was good and she didn't answer it
@@Nicolas-lg6ys Why does he get to ask her questions that she must answer in the terms in which he frames the question. She addressed the question.
They keep wheeling out this clown, it's wrong to take advantage of special needs sufferers just for our amusement
Jeremy vine using his daughter
its a good point that how she would feel about a jimmy saville statue is exactly how black people feel about coulston statue
As a historian, Femi's childish and extremely flippant reaction to the mindless vandalism of a 130-year-old piece of British history just makes my blood boil. Regardless of what it represents, that statue had been there since the reign of Queen Victoria, since before the Labour Party even existed. It has stood through two world wars and saw Britain's fall from its position as a global superpower. To have it ultimately be torn down by a bunch of historically-illiterate teenagers and unceremoniously dumped in the harbour like rubbish is honestly heart-breaking.
The Jimmy Savile angle doesn't make much sense. Jimmy used the charity work etc to gain access to victims and it was all very sinister. Jimmy actions were never acceptable in his life time. When Colson was about slavery was widely accepted all over the world. Some what annoying to see a guy clearly of an immigrant back ground attacking the UK the way Femi does, his ancestors lands still have slavery today and he doesn't seem to be concerned.
Seems that's what happens when history is eliminated from education curriculae.
As a white Bristolian, I'd walked by the statue many times, not knowing Colston's history. There was a petition to have context added to a plaque that would be next to it. The wording was altered (to focus less on child slaves) by the Merchant Venturers. At that time, not one of its members was Black.
Do I agree with the vandalism? No, and the people who brought it down are guilty imo.
Am I bothered it was brought down? No. Sometimes, progression happens through unlawful means. It sparked questioning of many statues/building names across the UK, and abroad. I'm proud of that.
There are many things that get tarnished that have lasted longer than 130 years, that don't get this same attention. That's not saying it makes this ok mind.
Maybe if we included context, & ethnicities other than white in British history, we wouldn't have this issue.
@@markleewillis9920 You, Sir, are a philistine.
@@markleewillis9920 Or- you can bring attention to the issues you mention etc. WITHOUT destroying cultural heritage in order to do it.
The fact that you 'don't care' simply reinforces OP's post
Where else would we see Oluwole as inquisitor but Jeremy Vine’s show.
I really like Emma and I could listen to her for hours. But this is a mis-match as she is simply too polite for a dickhead like Femi. He seems to see politeness and respect as a weakness to exploit to win the argument. Femi deserves a Katie Hopkins - someone who is not afraid to really turn the tables on him. Didn't Katie make him run out of the a TV studio once?
What I see is foreigners coming into another country, then deciding that parts of their history are unacceptable to them, vandalizing their property and deciding how they should think. I don't know how many tribes and societies in human history were okay with that.
Femi was born here you racist (and I'm NO fan on him)
@@BigAlCapwn born here and hates the country we’re just sick of seeing our country it’s history constantly criticised, the mans living very comfortable he’s on tv doing better than many in the country yet never stops with criticism he’s an idiot
@@BigAlCapwn It doesn't matter where he was born, this history and cultural heritage is not his, Europe for the Europeans. He is not a descendant of the culture but a newcomer who should respect the culture he has joined.
@@markwheeler4245 Critiquing something you love doesn’t mean you hate it, it often means the opposite. You critique things you think could do better and should do better.
@@jarogniewtheconqueror2804 first, “Europe is for Europeans “ nice take nazi, second, how is critiquing the bad aspects of something disrespect ?
Ask Femi where his funding comes from haha 🤣
Btw E Colston Helped build roads and help poor people in Bristol !!
You might be the next statue femi in human form 😂
She mentioned Oliver Cromwell and the opponent of the time (The King) were there in the public space together meaning historically there could have been a different narrative on either side. It doesn't mean you erase the battle that took place historically hence keep the statues.
Yeah keep them in a museum, or edit their epithets. Having them as they are is wholesale reverence. Tourists will see them and think wow who is this famous person ..oh, a slaver.
@@Nicolas-lg6ys We shouldn't cancel history, it is not like there is slavery today..oh but Muslims.
@@vickimann3262 Oh so we should have left the nazi statues up in Berlin then? Wouldn't wanna change history
@@Nicolas-lg6ys Perhaps Winston Churchill's victory statue should be up opposite that socialist party.
@@vickimann3262 So you would be happy to have a statue of Jimmy Saville up in the centre of London?
This guy needs to learn history and learn who these historical figure bought the slave from .
You wouldn't need a mob to remove a statue of Jimmy Saville. A statue of Saville was removed from outside a leisure center in Glasgow some time a go. Its not an old statue. You can justify its removal after due process, because it has no historic value. It was erected at a time when Savilles actions would have stopped the statue being erected in the first place, if what he had done had been known.
If this Femi dude is so concerned about slavery, then why dosn't he talk about what happens in the world now? You can still buy a sex slave in the middle east. And does he understand how the people that made his I-phone are treated? Perhaps he just dosn't have the balls to take on large corporations and the Islamic world.
You're missing the point. We erect statues to idolize people. Why should we idolize someone that doesn't represent the values of our society.
He's also advocating for preservation of history by putting them in museums so he isn't erasing history.
@@Nicolas-lg6ys I think he just wants to erase people who he dosen't like. I think that he also thinks that its ok for angry mobs to decide what goes. I don't think he would like it if statues of Nelson Mandela were torn down. The man was a terrorist. Do terrorists represent the values of our society?
@@martymcfartface996 How can he be erasing them when hes advocating for them to be memorialized in museums?
And if in the future society deemed Mandela to be of unsound character then yes we wouldn't idolize him. But that currently isn't the case. You'll find Mandela is still admired the world over (obviously generalising)
Also you're really comparing someone that aided in the trade of 80,000 people to the first democratically elected President of South Africa
@@Nicolas-lg6ys We all know what Femmi wants though . But like a child they don't always get what they want .
@@Nicolas-lg6ys No we don't idolise them. Wrong concept altogether. We are grateful of admiring of what they have accomplished. The city of Bristol owes Cawston for its very fabric. At the least, its a reminder that you owe your home to the efforts of those who went before.
Why should we care what Femi Oluwole believes?
@Yes No So did you.
wonder what sweat shop Femis" tee shirt was made . ?
Odds are he owns a smartphone as well.
@@jackhadroom4540 But he's probably not smart enough to use it .
If you keep looking backwards you`ll never see where you want to go.
I grow tired of people who clearly don’t have a British heritage telling me what a British heritage stands for.
How does he clearly not hv a British heritage
@@sitoudoaka8876 he’s a public school boy who wanted to tie us to the EU and couldn’t bear the idea that the workers of the U.K. had said no to him - every woke bandwagon seems to have him on it - throughly unpleasant man.
British heritage to me is a history of racism and colonialism. I rarely hear of anything else in british culture or history aside from the two. 🤷🏾♂️
@@iaindennis3321 lol just say black we know that’s what u mean
@@iBOXRIVER I’m very proud of the British Empire and it’s many achievements, far better than many other European Empires and far better than the current Franco German Empire masquerading as the EU. I do believe in British exceptionalism and it’s huge power.
Emma is a highly intelligent and principaled individual . I admire her. Femi is totally ignoring the historic context of the statues that are part of this countrys heritage
Femi....I'm assuming that black bloke.....needs to remember that many of his ancestors sold their countrymen to slave traders! For all we know his ancestors did the sales😡
Get a statue of Hitler in your front garden and defend it by telling everyone its there for historic context. I'm sure that will go down well with the neighbours 😂
@@Paulsyfi You're kind of proving my point here. There wouldn't be no historic context just from a statue the same as there isn't from there others they're complaining about taking down.
I hope you have been educated since you wrote this but just in case you still believe this nonsense, allow me to question your comment :) Why did they knock down Saville's house? Why is it illegal to display Nazi memorabilia? Why can't you spell properly (You literally have the worlds biggest dictionary at your fingertips and yet you make spelling mistakes)?
Could you have been swooned by a young lady perhaps? Enough to overlook her failure to see the difference between the abstract and hypothetical? I can't say I blame you 😉
The guy on the right is simply not being logical. He clearly doesn't like statues out in public of people he does not like. He's biased.
What a sensible, intelligent and eloquent lady..
This really is the video where racists came to build their platform. Enjoy Liz
@@jay7277
What are you on about 😂
@@blackniall8509 inside joke
@James O 👍
Statues of people are usually there for adoration of the person.
It doesn't reflect what they did in certain cases.
Petitioning for statues down is one thing (a very good thing).
But toppling it down is mob degeneracy and anarchist behaviour
Had the tories not cut the police this wouldn't have happened.
The lady's argument was calm and considered, Femi just rambled on the most pop culture reference he could think of.
I didn't notice an answer. Would you want a statue of jimmy saville to be taken down or not?
Who you care more about the delivery that the topic at hand.
@@osas2888 you do understand that people like Ghandi were pro apartheid, should we take down his statue? If you project your morality onto the past you don't learn from it
@@larrygerry985 As I've said elsewhere, someone's good, and the respect we have for that good, can outweigh their bad or at least balance it out somewhat. Ghandi's good was amongst the greatest in human history and I understand the immense appreciation people have for his good. These statues you lot are all out in fervent defense of are people you didn't even know existed until people asked for their statues to be removed. Building a couple of schools doesn't make up for buying and selling human beings stolen from their homes, ripped apart from their families and forced to spend their entire lives in agonising labour, and the fact so many people care so much about keeping these statues up is curious...
@@osas2888 Are you talking about a statue that doesn't exist? Doesn't this show weakness in this argument that you can't even refer to any existing statues?
Bellfield is coming for u jezza
History is complex and not always easy to hear, you don't get to erase it from the public eye because it makes you feel like some kind of justice has been served. the civil war, the movement and the western world today is not enough for some it seems. if a black man today is owed some kind of compensation for the atrocities then what is it? do you want freedom like everyone else or a special kind? freedom plus. freedom is tough if its not then why such a thirst for the coddling of the government we see today in youths of all races and creeds.
Femi take a look at yourself.
History is in the past, learn from it and fight what is happening now.
Yup, but the past is a the foundation for the future, all problems have a historical aspect to them, you can’t solve a problem without finding the cause
@@Jup100 Removing statues does not help this in any way.
@@jo18533 It actually hinders it. The statue provokes thought in people passing by it, not blind worship
Criteria for statues: did this person do a good so disproportionate in his time and historical context that it warrants honouring?
Criteria for removing statues: did the person do something so disproportionately bad in his historical context, not ours, that it needs removing?
Who's Jimmy Saville? I've heard of Jimmy Savile. Stupid question though because we know what Savile has done so you wouldn't put a statue up of him.
The potentially there would have been some statutes of Saville, due the vaste amounts of money he raised for his conscience, sorry I mean charity. However, the crimes he committed came out 1st. His elaborate grave stone was destroyed/taken down, as I remember. Saville himself was a DJ, TV personality, who did a very popular 70/80s family TV show, making kids wishes come true plus radio, music show 'top of the pops' etc and load of charity work.
Unlike Colston, he committed crimes in his own lifetime.
Alex belfield says hi🤣🤣🤣🤣💰💰💰💰💰
Couldn't answer the Jimmy savile question, surprise surprise it the history doesn't personally effect you, then you can easily turn a blind eye and pretend to be sympathetic
It was an abstract question. She didn't erect any statues to begin with. Femi and his Pal got pwned by a sophisticated intelligent woman.
@Boogie Woogie She should have returned fire by asking Femi if he'd remove a statue of Nelson Mandela for the same reason. Nelson was a criminal murderer.
@Boogie Woogie Inconsistency = logically flawed (Lockean logic) . That's all that matters.
@Boogie Woogie Except Femi's argument is logically flawed. The Statue of Colston was criminally defaced by criminals, the good people of Bristol democratically decided to keep the Statue in question by way of majority on three separate occasions when the issue was raised by protesters. The criminal minority then decided to take the law into their own hands. Femi himself is benefitting from slavery and mass genocide to this very day by merely having a Twitter account, does that now give Antifa the right to deface his property and dump it in a local swamp because "justice"?
You do realise these historical statues who traded in slaves brought them from black African slave owners .
Saville is of our time, which means he represents modern values. Aside from his charity work it would seem that enough people knew there was something questionable about him, which can be seen (or not seen) by the fact that there is no statue of him. That aside, if there had been a statue of him, it would have been erected in our time and might have been removed by effectively the same people. Time would not have passed across generations.
As for Colston, he acted within the law not just at the time, but by the actions of all human history not changed until the British changed it.
Indeed. Femi is such a vile little cretin and I think he is actually a racist.
@Yes No I don't understand that question. Could you write it again?
its no excuse being the first to remove slavery when you were amongst the first to impose it, we used to Burn the initials of our king onto Africans we forced to live in Jamaica a long time before the USA had their first slave
There was a statue of Saville, it was quickly taken down.
She is a very smart lady
And a very beautiful one. What is there not to like?
She’s hot .
Dont think Femi got the gist of why statues were put up, but then he wouldnt would he
Haha this comment section is making me think we didn't watch the same exchange, cause 😅 boy
The pyramids were built by slaves, but let us destroy one of the 7 wonders of the world..... 🤦♂️
I can't believe we are debating whether we should keep statues of slave traders up in our public squares.
Where do you draw the line?
Should we remove buildings that were actually BUILT BY SLAVES?
The vandalism is bad for obvious reasons that shouldn't have to be explained. What's equally bad is the completely brainless *defence* of vandalism by people pretending to hold the moral high ground.
They are encouraging not just more vandalism but an attitude of contempt among the young for our history and for the rule of law
In 2001, 1500 year old statues of the Buddha were destroyed by the Afghanistan government as the taliban decreed they were 'offensive'. Once you start ripping things down just because you dislike them, it sets a very dangerous precedent.
Absolutely.....that is a perfect example. Political correctness is a poison that destroys society from within.
Karma on it's way to Vine .
The answer is no, What Jimmy Saville did was illegal when he did it. As far as I know what Colsten did was perfectly legal when he did it.
Well said good point
Actually slavery in the UK was never legal, just overlooked away from it's shores. The saying at the time went along the lines of- the air of England was too pure for slavery. So sorry that argument holds no weight
if thats the way they think ,give the Colsten hall or the cash value of the Colston hall back to the Colston family relations .end offffff
@@MrTp25 slavery was abolished in 1807 so when Colsten was dealing with slaves everything he was doing was unfortunately perfectly legal.
My comment isn’t about if the statue should have stayed or not just the stupidity whenever someone brings up Jimmy Saville as if it’s one and the same as it isn’t in anyway.
@@cliffordbuttle4529 what a stupid racist reply, the man/family of the person who made money out of being racist should be refunded because people are calling his abhorrent racism. Think before you write nonsense
Would you tear down the colluseum in rome
Why is she under attack throughout this piece? This is not a debate, more an accusatory rant.
Another day on Jeremy Vine, another African lecturing us on how to live.
...and how to think...
He's British, he was born here
@@BigAlCapwn And if I was born in China I would still be European. You're talking about a passport mate
@@ogcpw4746 you would be European with a connection to china
@@ogcpw4746 in that case all those white australians and Americans are Europeans too
Context. We would never make a statue of Jimmy Saville at this time but in Colston's time there was no TV we wouldn't even have known about him.
Will someone ask this interviewer. Why in his parents home country of Nigeria there is a statue of Efunroye Tinubu, who Nigerians regard as good example and an esteemed business woman, a prolific S.trader in fact who threatened to do something awful to one lot of S....s that she couldn't sell. Mr Oluwole's morals and motives are a little suspect. He needs to have a chinwag with fellow country man Mr Olusoga about this.Then they need to clean up their own backyard before pointing fingers at anyone else.
The money that people made from using slaves and the structures made from the money should be torn down!!! I don't think so, for many a land mark would be destroyed.
If people don't like certain statues, then nobody forces them to look at these statues. It's like false gods, actually : if you don't worship them, they don't bother you at all.
True. They're giving them power by allowing them to live rent - free in their heads 24/7
@Yes No Your asking the question in bad faith. Good or bad it happens to be our history. We'll stand a better chance of accepting that if we don't begin questions with the premise of racism.
@Yes No The fact that you've resorted to extreme examples undermines your argument. Also citing speculative circumstances which don't exist won't help your case. We disagree on this and that's OK. As individuals we're bound to. Take care 👍
Femi, the gift that keeps giving....
Bristol council should have asked Bristol voters about the issue, a referendum if you will. Bristol would have voted it to be taken down without all this fuss.
this did happen and bristol voted to keep the statue in place!
@@kafoozalum1 when?
They did, and they voted to keep the statue because of the overwhelming contribution he made to their city.
Eric gill
I suspect that a museum displaying such statues would find itself under attack by the same mob..
Emma did very well sticking to the general point rather than be side tracked by the barrack room questioning of Femii. Colston did not 'murder' Africans - for two reasons. At the time of the slave trade, slavery was legal - internationally including in Nigeria, West Africa. It was the British who made slavery unlawful.Secondly, slave traders had no interest in dead slaves, they wanted them living.Femi's parents were both Nigerian. I wonder if what lurks in his family's record of enslaving Africans and selling them to traders If Colston had met Femi's ancestors, he would probably have done a deal with him.
Emma Webb is beautiful.
Was Colston a slave trader or an investor in many companies one of which had involvement with slave trading?
Indeed. These debates are important and are more likely to he had if said statue is left there to remind people about the issues involved!
Think Femmi would keep a statue of him though🤢🤮
Edward Colston did nothing illegal.
I’m surprised she wasn’t ready for the Jimmy Savile analogy. I would have been in her position.
Her white supremacy beliefs getting destroyed
@@Bestlivexg Well, hardly. Just not very well defended.
Femi is a clown
Morality is smashed now.
cultural erosion. Keep relenting and there won't be a culture left its that simple.
I WOULD keep a statue of Saville up if allowing it to be torn down opened the doors to mobs tearing down everything that they decide is offensive.
Exactly. Keep it up. Provide context via a plaque etc.
Add. Don't take away.
Femi brings out all my ‘negative biases’ for really obvious reasons : he’s a hateful, arrogant, ideological, destructive person !
Sadly any cause he advocates becomes something i have no interest in supporting. A view i beleive might be shared by a large percentage of former labour voters in the UK
Cannot stand him
Well said
If Femi can ask a hard question to Emma, how about this one for Femi - where do you choose to live and why in the UK and not Africa? In other words, you enjoy the British empire now, built on the history of empire in the past.
Femi is just a racial agitator. That's how he makes his money. Ignore him.
Protect heritage…..slave heritage being protected…ok
Where does Femi get his facts from. He is factually wrong and was allowed to make them so watchers believe they are true.
Very sober, well-balanced and considered Emma, Femi: I’m not so sure.
Flip this around and ask him would he have a statue of Shaka Zulu erected. The head of the Zulu empire responsible for the death of millions 🤷🏼
Slavery was a great evil. I wish it never happened.
Femi makes a good point
Femi has never made a good point.
@@EnglishmanB3 well he just did 🙄
@@motivationinspiration5794 Denied.
I'll have whatever you're on
Femi basically compared a cathedral to a modern glass building. (I.e. something with historical value, an antique, to something that was made and displayed in our own era. WE control what is displayed in our own era, we don't control what our ancestors chose to erect in public squares)
It wasn't a point, it was a facile analogy.
Those Lefties are adorable.
Don't like any statues. Spend the money on the living.
Emma is intelligent and classy he’s just woke and rude
History and the line between good and evil are quite simple on the contrary those being put at the extreme end of the spectrum are only there because they lost, it's not like descendant of the close to 3 millions who perished in the indian famine or from the kenyan Mau Mau tribe put in British concentration camps would see Winston Churchill as some great figure , probably more like a butcher.
Claiming he killed eighty thousand slaves and finding facts about the claim is two different things even no matter how often you make those “claims”.
Exactly. But that would require some genuine facts, which may be inconvenient.
Black dude loses again!!!
Absurd comparison.
It is NOT an absurd comparison at all.....it's a perfect example of leftards stupidity.
that is one amazing dress, does anyone know where it's from??
Jimmy savile's wardrobe 🤣🤣🤣
Andrew Lloyd Webber's wardrobe
Ask her on Twitter.
As a Tory I would LOVE a statue of Jimmy Saville, he was a true British patriot, and if you disagree then your a WOKE snowflake.
Pulling down statues doesn't 'erase history' it just sends a signal of what our values are. Most people in Britain don't want to honour slave owners.
@Chase Williams For starters it is unknown how much wealth can be accredited to slavery, it could be minimal, it could be large. Either way he was a horrible person. Giving to your community does not undo the murder of thousands. As for the second part, I can think of countless athletes, scientists, politicians, artists, businessmen, philanthropist etc that have admirable qualities that don’t have crippling character flaws that we’d have to pretend dont exist.
Ok. Is removing books from libraries acceptable on the same logic?
What about changing or demolishing buildings that were built using the proceeds of slavery?
What about banning people from visiting the Pyramids of Giza because they were built by slaves?
Where does it stop?
P.S. Placing a particular statue in a particular place IS history. It happened. Therefore it's history. Removing it is history also..... see: Communist China.
This mon won't be happy until the history of all Anglo Saxons has been erased
Not his history perhaps he sgouuld go to africa and start pulling stuff down there?
What a prat this Femi is.
John 3.16-21