Anyone interested in a Y, realize the efficiency is waaaay worse than the 3. If you drive 15k+ miles per year, it's something to think about. Your electric cost will be average 30-50% higher than a Model 3. If you need the utility aspect and I would assume more rear legroom, it's a good choice. If you're looking for max efficiency, don't get a Y. I can easily get 220 wh/mi. with AC on in my 3LR, cruising on flat ground at 65-70mph all day. I can easily do around 200 wh/mi. and under for the trip during my commute in the AM without AC.
@@brandenflasch You averaged 311 Wh/mi. combined city and highway in 1200 miles. Honestly it would be totally impossible to increase your efficiency by 50% to around say 210-220 Wh/mi. average for the trip, given the same trip, just a slower speed. Y's just aren't that efficient compared to 3's.
@@brandenflasch If you think I'm wrong, do a highway run range test at 70MPH on relatively flat ground for 50 miles and find out what your Wh/mi. actually is.
You are an inspiration. After watching your Florida trip I went for it. 1500 mile round trip from the Florida Keys to Tennessee. Best, most comfortable road trip ever!! 2023 MSP on autopilot between 75-80 MPH, 4 stops (2 in Florida and 2 in Georgia) and used 315 Wh/mile. Keep the videos coming! P.S. I stopped at my first Buc-ees on this trip. 😂
Glad you had the chance to visit Chicago my hometown! Recently moved back and can't wait to explore the city again and make new EV content for my channel relating to being in Chicagoland! Safe travels Branden!
So do you have a firm opinion now of the 4680 car vs a LR? Does it only come down to range and a small time difference when road tripping? 0-60 time doesn’t seem like a drastic difference.
I’m retired so I don’t have to be anywhere fast. I don’t want to do any more than 6-8 hours of driving on any day so I’d plan my trips around that. I have a 2023 Model Y long range. I’m looking at a lot of Tesla Road trip videos and most of the charging stops seem to be about 1.5 to 2 hours apart and I’m good with that. I need to get out and stretch and use facilities about that distance anyway.
I've rented a Tesla twice once to go to Alabama to a water park and the second time to go to Houston the Tesla does great on road trips it looks like every bucees in the south has a charging station...next trip with a Tesla is going to be somewhere in the Midwest maybe Branson Missouri haven't been there in a few years I'm trying to get a model Y this time I've been getting the model 3 the model Y isn't available for rent near me
Branden I’m taking the Tesla on its first road trip to Swatara MN and Warroad MN and really nervous about the charging. It’s pretty rural around warroad. Any tips ?
i don't know if you mentioned this in your video at the beginning, but do you have/use FSD when doing these trips? I think in the middle of the video you mentioned using Auto Pilot. Did you notice any Phantom Braking while using Auto Pilot?? Thanks for the video. Take care.
Thanks for sharing this part of your trip, Branden! I’ve followed a very similar itinerary (FL to MI) in my MY, and the charge experience is ridiculously less stressful than with a CCS. I fretted about the 4680 curve being less aggressive, but I quickly got over that. Gotta like being able to stop at three Buc-ee’s and two Culver’s vs. the typical Walmart EA experience!
I love road trips in my Tesla. The thing is to toss out your old ICE car habits of distance traveling. Charging stops are your friends. They enforce you to take short rest stops making long trips much less tiring. I can drive all day without stress or fatigue, especially with Autopilot FSD doing 95% of the driving.
Wish that Sevierville charger had been active when we drove our Y back to MN a couple years ago. Couldn't make it from the Asheville Charger to London, KY so had to stop in Knoxville, and the charger is on the west side of the city, so it added almost an hour to the drive between driving across knoxville and waiting nearly 30 minutes to charge.
ICE = internal combustion engine, which are in gasoline or diesel vehicles. The commenter was complaining about non-electric vehicles occupying most of the Tesla charging stalls (meaning they were “ICEd”).
I stopped at the Sevierville Buc’ees last weekend in my similar 2023 MY AWD. Wasn’t too bad on Friday. But Saturday returning to Atlanta, it was packed. Of the 24 Superchargers, at least 20 were ICED. Luckily I was able to charge and get back on the road.
Did you get any phantom brake? I get it most of the time going through a bend or a hill. Did a trip from Texas to Nevada and kept experiencing it. Gets annoying after awhile.
I recently picked up a MY standard range back in June '23. So far, everything has been awesome, except for the phantom breaking. Driving from Texas to Virginia was fine, but the return trip was terrible. I live in West of Dallas where there are no trees and a healthy supply of sunlight. Please share your experiences with the traffic aware cruise control, because almost nobody mentions this in their videos. It's very dangerous to brake hard on the interstate. It's to the point where I don't use it anymore and that should not be the case on any vehicle.
Hello, I have a question. I have a week to order my model Y, and I wanted to know if the 16% autonomy of the 4680 batteries that Tesla promises is real?
Cool vid. Is it just me or does Asheville have way too many super chargers for the size of the town? Love the Bucees stops and the drone shots. The place is the best SC stops round. Clean bathrooms and all the BBQ & jerky you can ever want. Out of curiosity, what drone do you have. Was thinking of getting one. Yours takes crisp vids. Thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching.
Heavy tourist traffic and passing through traffic in Asheville leads to the amount of superchargers for the various traffic patterns. I really enjoy the Buc-ees stops too
Hey Brandon, recently did a road trip in a model y long range from Chicago to LA. It was great but 1 issue we had was the estimated arrival percentage was way off most of the time. Couple times where is would say we would get to the next charger with around 40% and got there with closer to 10-15%. We had 4 people, a dog and it was completely full with luggage and usually doing around 80-85 mph in the 75 zones which was most of the trip. Despite this I feel that the car should have been able to see the efficiency we were getting and adjust for the legs after. We ended up using ABRP and it was pretty spot on compared to the Tesla navigation. Any tips for future trips to get this more accurate? Only other issues were some phantom braking and auto wipers going off in adaptive cruise. Overall a great trip.
BEV do NOT do well at 80-85 MPH because of a lack of gearing and the obvious hit from aerodynamic drag. Your Model Y range is much better at 70 MPH than it is at 80-85.
That's interesting. My ETA and SOC estimates are pretty accurate. I do monitor it, though, and adjust my speed if I'm using up battery faster than expected.
It certainly a smaller plug which is good, it’s funny that there are so many different plug types in the EU standardisation is always so difficult. @@brandenflasch
Because the battery charges very slowly above 80%. Pretty much the same for any EV on roadtrips. You'll spend more time 'topping off' than you will making more frequent stops.
It’s because at the top of the charging curve it can take double or triple the time to charge that it took from say 10-80 percent. It’s waaaaay faster to just charge what you need and keep going. It can charge from 5-75 percent in 15-20 minutes, but from 80 to 100 it could take another 45 minutes. You don’t want to do that. You charge what you need and keep on rolling. Also, If you only need 40 percent to get home, then that’s all you need and you plug in at your garage at home.
I have a Model 3 RWD which has the LFP battery. You are supposed to charge it to 100% at least once a week. Since I live in a condo with no at home charging I have to supercharge all the time. The charging takes about 20 minutes to 80%, 20 more minutes to 99%, and then around 10 minutes for it to "calibrate". For a road trip I wouldn't charge to 100% if I could avoid it. Fortunately, LFP batteries aren't badly affected by continuous supercharging like the lithium ion batteries. I'm lucky -- the supercharger near where I live only charges 11 cents per kwh before 8am so I just have to get up early!
We get it. Driving a Tesla on a long road trip, using only Interstate highways, ones with Superchargers every 40-50 miles, and getting fantastic charging speeds, is a breeze. These road-trip videos like this are becoming extremely boring. I would still like to see someone try to drive a CCS vehicle OR a Tesla on a road-trip using only US and state highways and watch what happens. Show us how many working charging locations there are on THOSE roadways, and how fast they can charge, and how many units are working versus offline or throttled, and I will watch that video in a heartbeat.
Road trip Twitter thread here - follow me if you’re not already: twitter.com/brandenflasch/status/1679109277741449218?s=46&t=qT5Mqn6Y80K93tBN1ZDU0Q
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Hi
Hello
The white interior compliments the blue exterior better than I thought.
It’s a great combo that’s surprisingly uncommon
Hello
I miss the Rivian😢
agreed.
Anyone interested in a Y, realize the efficiency is waaaay worse than the 3. If you drive 15k+ miles per year, it's something to think about. Your electric cost will be average 30-50% higher than a Model 3. If you need the utility aspect and I would assume more rear legroom, it's a good choice. If you're looking for max efficiency, don't get a Y. I can easily get 220 wh/mi. with AC on in my 3LR, cruising on flat ground at 65-70mph all day. I can easily do around 200 wh/mi. and under for the trip during my commute in the AM without AC.
I could do that on my Y too, I simply don’t ever drive that slow
@@brandenflasch You averaged 311 Wh/mi. combined city and highway in 1200 miles. Honestly it would be totally impossible to increase your efficiency by 50% to around say 210-220 Wh/mi. average for the trip, given the same trip, just a slower speed. Y's just aren't that efficient compared to 3's.
@@brandenflasch If you think I'm wrong, do a highway run range test at 70MPH on relatively flat ground for 50 miles and find out what your Wh/mi. actually is.
See you made it through the ultra crowded Sevierville (pronounced Se vere' ville) Bucees. Well done
Glad you got some Spotted Cow! I end up getting some almost every time I head home
You are an inspiration. After watching your Florida trip I went for it. 1500 mile round trip from the Florida Keys to Tennessee. Best, most comfortable road trip ever!! 2023 MSP on autopilot between 75-80 MPH, 4 stops (2 in Florida and 2 in Georgia) and used 315 Wh/mile.
Keep the videos coming!
P.S. I stopped at my first Buc-ees on this trip. 😂
Hell yeah! I’m sure the Model S was absolutely fantastic for that trip with the adaptive air suspension 👌
Nice video Brandon. Heads up, you’ve heard of a SEVERE thunderstorm? That’s how the locals pronounce Sevierville.
Yeah, his pronunciation had me laughing
Man… that battery pack is being beaten up with all this DC charging since delivery 😂 and yeah those drone shots are awesome!
Over 1MWh Supercharging already 😅
@@brandenflasch😂😅
Glad you had the chance to visit Chicago my hometown! Recently moved back and can't wait to explore the city again and make new EV content for my channel relating to being in Chicagoland! Safe travels Branden!
I got excited to see you were coming through Charleston WV, but then you changed it. I can’t blame you though, we have nothing here.
That Roastery is such an awesome place.
Lol from afar I thought Buc-ees was a tesla giga factory.
My guy looks like a male version of Joyce Meyers.
So do you have a firm opinion now of the 4680 car vs a LR? Does it only come down to range and a small time difference when road tripping? 0-60 time doesn’t seem like a drastic difference.
Having Model Y LR’s, the charging curve seems to be less powerful. Never really hits 250kWh - and tapers fast.
Probably the biggest difference between a Model Y LR and Model Y 4680 is the 4680 battery pack is part of the vehicles' structure.
@@samuell.siskindbut are you letting it go below 10% when charging? And is your battery warm? If not you won’t see 250 often.
How much did it cost you to charge for those 1200 plus miles?
$106.19 - twitter.com/brandenflasch/status/1679846134758490112?s=46&t=qT5Mqn6Y80K93tBN1ZDU0Q
@@brandenflasch Bummer thats the same as gas for a similar size Suv
@@christophermatessa6949 I charge for free at home and work 🤷♂️
I’m retired so I don’t have to be anywhere fast. I don’t want to do any more than 6-8 hours of driving on any day so I’d plan my trips around that.
I have a 2023 Model Y long range.
I’m looking at a lot of Tesla Road trip videos and most of the charging stops seem to be about 1.5 to 2 hours apart and I’m good with that. I need to get out and stretch and use facilities about that distance anyway.
nice
I've rented a Tesla twice once to go to Alabama to a water park and the second time to go to Houston the Tesla does great on road trips it looks like every bucees in the south has a charging station...next trip with a Tesla is going to be somewhere in the Midwest maybe Branson Missouri haven't been there in a few years I'm trying to get a model Y this time I've been getting the model 3 the model Y isn't available for rent near me
After mangling the pronunciation of "Alachua" on your Florida video, you're doing it again with "Sevierville, which is pronounced "Suh-VEER-ville" 🍭
“Head to Lino”. Must be from Minnesota.
Spent most of my life in MN!
Spotted cow is great! You should visit surly brewery while in the cities! I'll be there next week!
Surly is good but most of their beers are too hoppy for my preference
Branden I’m taking the Tesla on its first road trip to Swatara MN and Warroad MN and really nervous about the charging. It’s pretty rural around warroad. Any tips ?
That’s going to be challenging
i don't know if you mentioned this in your video at the beginning, but do you have/use FSD when doing these trips?
I think in the middle of the video you mentioned using Auto Pilot. Did you notice any Phantom Braking while using Auto Pilot??
Thanks for the video. Take care.
I have an FSD subscription but FSD beta is not available for HW4 yet - I used Navigate on Autopilot heavily
so 200 miles is your 100% highway range basically. our SR MY is 180. sound about right.
At speed, yes. I’ll have to do a 70mph range test
Awesome drone footage! Many references along the way to “We” but we never saw “We”, only Thee! 😂
😉
Thanks for sharing this part of your trip, Branden! I’ve followed a very similar itinerary (FL to MI) in my MY, and the charge experience is ridiculously less stressful than with a CCS. I fretted about the 4680 curve being less aggressive, but I quickly got over that. Gotta like being able to stop at three Buc-ee’s and two Culver’s vs. the typical Walmart EA experience!
I agree - it's not a great charging curve but I'm not sure it really matters
Appreciate your videos! As others have mentioned, It’s pronounced “suh-veer-ville” not “seever-ville” 😅
Thanks for this, and a small suggestion would be more stats at the end and a char perhaps. How many miles per KWh etc.
I included this at the end of
I like the drone footage!
I love road trips in my Tesla. The thing is to toss out your old ICE car habits of distance traveling. Charging stops are your friends. They enforce you to take short rest stops making long trips much less tiring. I can drive all day without stress or fatigue, especially with Autopilot FSD doing 95% of the driving.
Great video
Question for you, which app do you find is the best/accurate for finding Hotel charging?
None of them are good enough on their own IMO
@@brandenflasch
That’s what I’ve found also
Thanks
Wish that Sevierville charger had been active when we drove our Y back to MN a couple years ago. Couldn't make it from the Asheville Charger to London, KY so had to stop in Knoxville, and the charger is on the west side of the city, so it added almost an hour to the drive between driving across knoxville and waiting nearly 30 minutes to charge.
What did you mean when you said. "All these stalls have been iced?"
ICE = internal combustion engine, which are in gasoline or diesel vehicles. The commenter was complaining about non-electric vehicles occupying most of the Tesla charging stalls (meaning they were “ICEd”).
@21:22 i see Bethany!
I stopped at the Sevierville Buc’ees last weekend in my similar 2023 MY AWD. Wasn’t too bad on Friday. But Saturday returning to Atlanta, it was packed. Of the 24 Superchargers, at least 20 were ICED. Luckily I was able to charge and get back on the road.
I haven't been up to speed with your videos in sometime!
Yourself and Kalie no longer together?
It’s been many months
@@brandenflasch you're not wrong there brother! Sorry I'm not fully up to speed.
Did you get any phantom brake? I get it most of the time going through a bend or a hill. Did a trip from Texas to Nevada and kept experiencing it. Gets annoying after awhile.
Hi there, I really like the music played in your video. What are the names of the songs played? Thanks
How many school districts that bus go through? And isn't school out for summer break?
Great Video!😊
Would you still buy a 4680 today or get a long range Y ?
Get a long range
I recently picked up a MY standard range back in June '23. So far, everything has been awesome, except for the phantom breaking. Driving from Texas to Virginia was fine, but the return trip was terrible. I live in West of Dallas where there are no trees and a healthy supply of sunlight. Please share your experiences with the traffic aware cruise control, because almost nobody mentions this in their videos. It's very dangerous to brake hard on the interstate. It's to the point where I don't use it anymore and that should not be the case on any vehicle.
I have very occasional phantom brakes
Hello, I have a question. I have a week to order my model Y, and I wanted to know if the 16% autonomy of the 4680 batteries that Tesla promises is real?
I’m not sure I understand what you mean by 16%
Cool vid. Is it just me or does Asheville have way too many super chargers for the size of the town? Love the Bucees stops and the drone shots. The place is the best SC stops round. Clean bathrooms and all the BBQ & jerky you can ever want. Out of curiosity, what drone do you have. Was thinking of getting one. Yours takes crisp vids. Thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching.
Heavy tourist traffic and passing through traffic in Asheville leads to the amount of superchargers for the various traffic patterns. I really enjoy the Buc-ees stops too
I have a DJI Mavic Air 2 drone
Loved the drone footage. Really conveys the activity around the charges.
Hey Brandon, recently did a road trip in a model y long range from Chicago to LA. It was great but 1 issue we had was the estimated arrival percentage was way off most of the time. Couple times where is would say we would get to the next charger with around 40% and got there with closer to 10-15%. We had 4 people, a dog and it was completely full with luggage and usually doing around 80-85 mph in the 75 zones which was most of the trip. Despite this I feel that the car should have been able to see the efficiency we were getting and adjust for the legs after. We ended up using ABRP and it was pretty spot on compared to the Tesla navigation. Any tips for future trips to get this more accurate? Only other issues were some phantom braking and auto wipers going off in adaptive cruise. Overall a great trip.
BEV do NOT do well at 80-85 MPH because of a lack of gearing and the obvious hit from aerodynamic drag. Your Model Y range is much better at 70 MPH than it is at 80-85.
That's interesting. My ETA and SOC estimates are pretty accurate. I do monitor it, though, and adjust my speed if I'm using up battery faster than expected.
Love those mountain drives through the south, beautiful views! Good idea for the pit stop in Chicago too. See you around!
Does the US model Y not have a DC fast charge socket?
Every stop on this trip was DCFC - it absolutely does
It’s just that in the UK we have the CCS type 2 combo at least I did on my model 3 and Y teslas. @@brandenflasch
@@ChrisB-lt6hp In the US we have a proprietary Tesla plug now known as NACS
It certainly a smaller plug which is good, it’s funny that there are so many different plug types in the EU standardisation is always so difficult. @@brandenflasch
About how much did it cost you to charge on this trip?
$106.19
Total cost of superchargering for the trip?
$106
Hi
Did you use FSD the whole way on highways? If so any phantom braking and how was auto lane changing?
Used Autopilot / Navigate on Autopilot. Some phantom braking.
Why do you make so many short charging stops instead of nearly topping off the battery at fewer stops?
I wonder that also
Because the battery charges very slowly above 80%. Pretty much the same for any EV on roadtrips. You'll spend more time 'topping off' than you will making more frequent stops.
It’s because at the top of the charging curve it can take double or triple the time to charge that it took from say 10-80 percent. It’s waaaaay faster to just charge what you need and keep going. It can charge from 5-75 percent in 15-20 minutes, but from 80 to 100 it could take another 45 minutes. You don’t want to do that. You charge what you need and keep on rolling. Also, If you only need 40 percent to get home, then that’s all you need and you plug in at your garage at home.
It’s called charger hopping, where you leverage max speeds at the lower end of the pack .
I have a Model 3 RWD which has the LFP battery. You are supposed to charge it to 100% at least once a week. Since I live in a condo with no at home charging I have to supercharge all the time. The charging takes about 20 minutes to 80%, 20 more minutes to 99%, and then around 10 minutes for it to "calibrate". For a road trip I wouldn't charge to 100% if I could avoid it. Fortunately, LFP batteries aren't badly affected by continuous supercharging like the lithium ion batteries. I'm lucky -- the supercharger near where I live only charges 11 cents per kwh before 8am so I just have to get up early!
What does the cars charge limit in miles when you charge to 100%?
279 miles
That’s crazy. I have the same car as you with 3k miles and mine fully charge limit is 271 only
@@rahatsalwan2251 20” wheels?
@@brandenflasch yeah man
@@rahatsalwan2251 that’s why… 20” have less range
We get it. Driving a Tesla on a long road trip, using only Interstate highways, ones with Superchargers every 40-50 miles, and getting fantastic charging speeds, is a breeze. These road-trip videos like this are becoming extremely boring. I would still like to see someone try to drive a CCS vehicle OR a Tesla on a road-trip using only US and state highways and watch what happens. Show us how many working charging locations there are on THOSE roadways, and how fast they can charge, and how many units are working versus offline or throttled, and I will watch that video in a heartbeat.
You really love Bucky’s
Has everything you could want while charging
FFS Man it’s pronounced seh · vee · ur · vl
literally no one cares.
@@laloajuria4678apparently they do. Gotta love non educated trolls