Nice Video, I took my sweet time to watch every single of it, even rewind few times to catch some few words I thought I missed...lol..I actually own both Crane 3s pro package and Ronin RS2 pro Combo. The truth is that you need both, they have place where they outshine each other. It’s like comparing a Semi to a Sedan, both are Vehicles but have there uses when it’s best suit your work. You guys missed one thing on the Crane 3S though, it can also Zoom and focus on the Smart sling handle simultaneously, wheel for focus, up-down button for Zoom, if you don’t want to use the big glowing nob or it’s to far for reach. But all in all I appreciate this video. Even in May 19 2021 this video is invaluable. Thanks guy. Am Definitely subscribing to this channel.
Are you saying that you can control focus from the sling handle and not the big focus wheel on the side? And if so, how precise is the operation? I find that focus wheel on the side to be uncomfortable to use when I have the gimbal upright, and that's the main thing keeping me from purchasing it.
Bro's Thanks for all the good info! This video totally made me mash the buy button on the Zhiyun Crane 3s Pro for my new set up. I killed my Ronin M 2 months ago on a music video shoot. Looking forward to testing this out and using on future shoots!
Thanks for the info. That battery door on the Crane 3s does seem to be the same as last years model. I may have used that gimbal a good 6 times and the door latch has already snapped. Also I am not sure how often updates the firmware’s. So far I have not seen any updates for my R5 or R6.
Choice, it seems to me anyway, comes down to usage. The Crane obviously is a better fit for the Blackbox, but if you are only using DSLR, the RS2 seems to me to be the more compatible choice. An overlooked but significant caveat.
I'm new to the pro gimbal setup, and there was a really good deal for me to acquire the crane 3s, my current camera is nikon z9, so to me, the payload is more important then anything else, took me sometime to figure out the each parts of this crane 3s, so far one thing surprise me is the z9 compare to you folks using, the crane 3s consider the z9 its light setup (lol) , the motors don't have to work that hard to balance the setup. After watched the entire the video (thank you folks for this great comparision) , as I mentioned the gimbal I got was a really really good deal (no where near the 3 years ago MSRP) so with all those plus points yall mentioned in the video, IMHO, I just hit jackpot for this :) Points you mentioned in the video, I fully agree with all those minus parts and even more with the good part, but those minus part I believe its not as bad as usually product defective, and its more like the balance the production cost or maybe just poor choice in the design. for the good part, especially the battery, I really dont mind to have 18650, and its great, save me even more for adding second set for the backup. Once again thanks for this great video, I'm try to learn more from still image capturing to the video capturing....
A couple of points. First, you don't need a mobile phone to calibrate the gimbal, just use the dial and use the calibrate setting. Mine worked fine right off the bat. Secondly, that SmallRig collar has NATO rails on two sides and is perfect for attaching a side handle, like one of the SmallRig ones with a fitted NATO clamp. It makes not just holding and focus wheel control easier, but also lifting and putting the gimbal down.
You would use the rosette and mark it with dry erase for choreographed shots. If you, as the operator have to go from mark to mark and your talent has to do the same thing, you can know where those focus positions ought to be when everyone (hopefully) lands on their marks. I can see it being a useful aid, especially if you don't have a 1st backing you up.
Just started looking into the cheapish gimabls that can hold a matte box and cam setup and found this video. Fantastic work guys, you went through all the points that affect yourselves and mentioned a few things not many others mention (v-mount etc.). Cheers from Australia.
Does the carbon fiber of the RS2 give it extra flex? When the gimbal is put on the table at 3:53 you see the camera rock back and forth while the stand seems solid on the table. I noticed this wobble as well in some footage I saw online (especially if you check corners, distant buildings etc). Thanks for this amazing video, I'm undecided between these 2 :)
It feels like it has a little but we haven't noticed it causing any big issues. Obviously the heavier the camera on it the more I'm guessing it would cause problems, well keep an eye out for it going forward. The Carbon fiber is nice because it's so light but the crane 3s is definitely more solid and rigid with the metal build
@@threefoldtv Can you "bend" it manually? Ah well, if you haven't noticed it then it should be fine. Anyway, ordered the C3S right after this video. Should have it in 2-3 days. Thanks guys! Nice to see a decent in-depth video instead of the standard rushy 5-10 min videos. :P
did you guys have an issue with wobble on the crane 3s because of how wide the BMPCC is? I know others have had that issue and its the only thing stopping me from buying it right now
Good video. I was more interested in the Crane, as I'm looking for something to use with a large camcorder, but I think you gave them both a fair and comprehensive overview.
Guys, tell me which stabilizer is better for shooting near the ground, I need to shoot small cars, the camera should be down 95% of the time, what do you advise, not necessarily from these two, I use a sony a7c camera
What do you guys think about the Tilta Ecosystem for the RS2? The amount of functionality it expands the RS2 to have is really enticing. Even though we'd need to use counterbalances with Tokina's ATX cine lineup we're thinking that the ecosystem may be worth it. (Shooting on pocket 4k/6ks too).
Yeah Tiltas ecosystem is probably one of the biggest selling points for us as to weather we keep it or not. We're hoping Tilta continues to add onto the ecosystem with more rigging pieces so that v-mount batteries can be easily placed in the front of the gimbal (similar to our old ronin S build)
@@threefoldtv Their advanced ring actually has contact points for a vmount attachment so that's pretty interesting. But for in front of the gimbal im not too sure.
@@EasyButtonFTW Yeah I really do appreciate how much Tilta has integrated V-Mounts with the ecosystem, hoping they allow for more v-mount mounting options down the road! Were really excited to see the stedicam system they have for the RS2 as that looks like it integrates with the TB50 Inspire 2 batteries!
@@EasyButtonFTW also looking at the alien car mount and check out the DF Photo Thanos ProII it’s similar to the Tilta trinity thing but slightly cheaper and works on any gimbal.
I am pickin a gimbal for my bmpcc with sigma 18-35 and it is a definately hard choice. On one hand crane 3s that can carry a tank, but is heavy itself as a tank and on the other hand dji rs2, its light and a promising lidar technology, but it can carry my camera only when i remove some parts like top handle and a monitor which means it will take more time to change from handheld to gimbal and back. But also resting my hands and back between takes will take more time if i pick crane 3s. Damn.
I’m in the same predicament but just for future proof I’m going for the Crane 3. You can always put a small camera on a big gimbal but you can’t put a big camera on a small gimbal.
Subbed, great video guys. But I've found for me personally that upright gimbals are best for me because I often use the gimbal in Pan/Tilt Follow mode. The thing with gimbals with the handle in the back is you tend to tilt them forward to hold them comfortably. Which in PTF mode causes the camera to tilt down. Obviously you can hold a trigger or something to temporarily lock that, but I've found that a dual handle setup as opposed to the rear handle forces me to hold the gimbal in the best position. As of right now, I think the best two gimbals on the market (to me) are the DJI RS2 and the Moza Air 2s. I really wanted the Moza Air 2s but apparently, it's sold out everywhere, so I went with the RS2 Pro.
Thank you for your review. I have a question, from your experience, is the RSc2 a good and easy to use gimbal for portrait/vertical video shooting? Thanks.
I need a gimbal to also perform as a remote pan/tilt system as well. I've searched for wireless remote system add ons but don't feel like I have a definitive answer. I'll be using the gimbal with small to medium sized camcorders, a C100 and zoom lenses, or a Fuji X4 with zoom lenses. I cover motor sports and need something that can be mounted either on top my van, or possibly across the track that can be controlled from inside my van. For my traditional hand held shooting needs I believe either gimbal would be alright, but whichever could handle the long hours of rotation following racers around a track best will get my money. Do these gimbals pan 360 degrees with ability to do consecutive rotations? Any advice guys, thanks much.
@@MtZionMediaPro I've been using it for 6 months now almost every week. it's too heavy for long usage. the wireless transmission app is bugged, it disconnects a lot, very good for amateurs but not suitable for pros. gimbal can easly carry fx6, but fx9 is a bit heavy for it, may be I dont know how to adjust it properly, when I make extreme movements it doesn't stabilize properly.
Have you guys made a decision on which gimbal you’ll use moving forward? Are you rigging it out like you did the Ronin-S? Would love to see or hear an update!
We still have both currently, but we have rigged out the RS2 similar to how we rigged out the original Ronin S but it took quite a bit of creativity to make it work. If we didn't have the Ronin 2 we would hands down go with the Crane 3S, but because we have a bigger gimbal were still figuring out if the crane 3s is something were gonna need to keep or not.
@@threefoldtv that’s great! Thanks for the update! It seems like the 3S is rating better than the RS2 in stabilization too. Have you found powering through camera with the additional Crane 3S batteries to be solid enough for long use stretches or nah?
Great video guys! I recently bought the RS2 as an upgrade to the ronin S so I could balance the FX6 son it. I am very disappointed with the RS2 and have decided the crane 3 is way better for the job.
@@kwestmedia4116 I bought the crane 3 the same day I watched this. I Had it for a day and then sent it back. It’s a shame because the crane 3 was very promising. It balanced my fully rigged FX6 but it was really heavy. The handle design is incredibly awkward and makes it practically impossible to pick up with two hands. It’s also very Chinese, I know they both are but the crane just had that cheap, old school Chinese gel to it. The buttons don’t feel like buttons either, they feel loose and plasticky and don’t make a satisfying click. They also get in the way massively and I kept changing modes when I picked it up. It’s just not very intuitive at all. There’s definitely a gap in the market.
@@KnightTwilightV I’m back on the RS2 again. It’s as good as the ronin S with different strengths and weaknesses. I’m hoping to get the tilta ring eventually and power everything via V mount. I still haven’t used it on a job yet.
@@skatepark02 he clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing the bigger your camera the bigger your gimbal ffs of course it’s going to be heavy it’s not gonna be light? Wtf
I am really curious as to how you managed to get your BMPCC 6K camera to work on the Crane 3S. No matter how I rig mine I cannot get it to mount without vibration from the upper motor. My Sony A7sIII cameras work perfectly however.
I've managed to balance my 4.1kg BMPCC4K rig (NP-F battery plate, monitor, Rode Video Mic NTG, matte box, heavy lens and whatnot) on my Crane 3s without issues, nor do I have to use the extra power pack and I'm running the gimbal at its lowest power setting. It's easy if you have your rig properly set up beforehand. This link shows what that rig looks like: australianimage.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/BMPCC4K-3.jpg.
@@TheToneWork The gimbal app is ordinary to say the least, but the TransMount Transmitter app works quite well and I use it often. The balancing is very easily sorted out if you have your camera sorted out, as I explained in my video from two months back titled: BMPCC4K/6K Gimbal - Simply The Best? Zhiyun Crane 3s Pro. I won't post a link as sometimes these kill the post. If you can't balance a camera on the Crane 3s, you're doing it wrong.
Good and funny video at the end. I really believe it comes down to the size of the camera at the end of the day in general. The Crane 3s can handle bigger setups obviously. The RS2 looks better, app is overall better and more intuitive. Quality of the RS2 is better also. This video kept my attention the whole time, and yes I love gimbals.
i've had the rsc2 with my sigma 18-35 sony a7iii and it's very jerky and jittery, im guessing thats because it was front heavy... which gimbal would you recommend for my setup?
Not sure if you guys used the new firmware for the RS2 yet but they improved the settings both on the gimbal and in the app as well as better motor controls. Don’t really need the app at all now for RS2. They also fixed the jitter wobble issues. RS2 is picky about balancing. Crane3s pro empty weighs more than the RS2 fully rigged. Their app sucks and you can’t edit every gimbal setting without using the app. However no issues balancing at all.
We haven't updated the firmware yet as we weren't having many issues, we'll have to check that out though! As for weight thats not entirely true, if you have a lightweight lens and camera then that may be the case. For our setup with our Pocket 6k, 11-20 Cine and the focus motor on both units the RS2 weighs in at 9.9lbs and the Crane 3S weighs in at 12.8 lbs. Without the camera and lens (but including the focus motor) the RS2 weighs in at 4.4lbs and the Crane 3S at 7.3lbs. I definitely do agree with the app tho, the DJI app is much better.
@@threefoldtv I didn’t weigh them it was more so the feeling in hand to be honest. Also I ran both with a caged pocket 4K and DZO 20-70 mft lens which is almost a 3lb lens that’s very long.
@@threefoldtv I agree! Also in my case I was running the vmount power pack on the crane 3S pro so that added more weight too. Either gimbal paired with the DF Photo Thanos ProII is a perfect combo or the DJI Tilta Ecosystem.
@@codypchristian O yeah, I've been eyeing that DF Photo Thanos for a bit, and it looks pretty sweet! I'm also really excited to see more info on the one Tiltas been working on!
You keep the arm on for the RS 2 and you add a quick release to both ends, problem solved. That said, QC control w/ DJI is awful. I owned all three. Crane 3s, 2s and RS 2. Also, love the 11-20 lens. Got mine a couple months ago, it's been great! I love having a longer throw with an electronic follow focus.
2nd the QC issues with DJI. The first RS2 I received had a faulty tilt sensor (or IMU or accelerometer, I don't really know). It couldn't sense the horizontal tilt, which prevented it from calibrating, balance checking, or auto tuning, and made the gimbal completely unusable.
Very great video! But i can not decide which one is the best for me :) i like the RS2 but i also like the Crane 3 too :D I have comparisions but its so hard to find out whats the best :P I have had a Ronin SC before and i was not very lucky with it because its so stupid to balance my Nikon Z6 with Lenses.... i have one mai camera and i want to use it for video and photo and the balancing act was horrible all the time.... in this case i believe the crane 3 is the best choice.... i love the touchscreen of the RS2 but maybe its not worth to take it if the camera balancing is horrible too.... i never use my Ronin SC anymore.... :(
Yeah thats a tough decision, the Crane 3s is way more flexible when it comes to balancing especially if the camera starts to get heavier. The RS2 feels a little more refined and the touch screen has been pretty handy. They are both excellent options, and you can't go wrong either way. :)
My issue is that 10 pounds for 'any' brand isn't enough, if you want to shoot with an actual cinema camera like Arri, Venice, Ursa, RED, etc. I really like DJI's other gear but I have to go with a Crane 3S, even with its faults, because it can have a 14.5 pound payload. Their Crane 4 is way too short, where you can't get a rig camera on there now. Dunno why they did that.
@@threefoldtv :-) No need mate... But it was a very informative video. Now here is the issue I am having. I need to get a gimbal. I have found a Ronin S for £300 and this gimbal is going for £600+ do you think it is that much better than a Ronin-S - All the major filmmakers swear by the Ronin-S - The only thing that I can see that I may need is the locking and the follow thing...
@@m77ast I would hands down go with the Crane 3s over the original Ronin S! The locking axis, and slightly larger size makes balancing different cameras way easier and allows you to do so without using counterbalance weights. Its also more future proofed since the Crane 3s can handle larger payloads as well as larger cameras.
The Zhiyun is just crap, at least the crane 3 version 1. The firmware is crazy to update, they don't update to other camera's and it weird overheat messages. But the worst is the contact with them, it feels they are just a small company with copycat gestures. DJI feels more refined as a company.
I liked the long video for what it’s worth - I watch youtube vids on my computer or ipad 23 while in split screen doing something else.....lots of info here.
Really appreciate the video- worth the full watch!
Nice Video, I took my sweet time to watch every single of it, even rewind few times to catch some few words I thought I missed...lol..I actually own both Crane 3s pro package and Ronin RS2 pro Combo.
The truth is that you need both, they have place where they outshine each other. It’s like comparing a Semi to a Sedan, both are Vehicles but have there uses when it’s best suit your work.
You guys missed one thing on the Crane 3S though, it can also Zoom and focus on the Smart sling handle simultaneously, wheel for focus, up-down button for Zoom, if you don’t want to use the big glowing nob or it’s to far for reach.
But all in all I appreciate this video. Even in May 19 2021 this video is invaluable.
Thanks guy.
Am Definitely subscribing to this channel.
Are you saying that you can control focus from the sling handle and not the big focus wheel on the side? And if so, how precise is the operation? I find that focus wheel on the side to be uncomfortable to use when I have the gimbal upright, and that's the main thing keeping me from purchasing it.
Bro's Thanks for all the good info! This video totally made me mash the buy button on the Zhiyun Crane 3s Pro for my new set up. I killed my Ronin M 2 months ago on a music video shoot. Looking forward to testing this out and using on future shoots!
Any follow up thoughts on the crane? How's it holding up after a year?
Thanks for the info. That battery door on the Crane 3s does seem to be the same as last years model. I may have used that gimbal a good 6 times and the door latch has already snapped. Also I am not sure how often updates the firmware’s. So far I have not seen any updates for my R5 or R6.
Thanks for the review guys ;)
Choice, it seems to me anyway, comes down to usage. The Crane obviously is a better fit for the Blackbox, but if you are only using DSLR, the RS2 seems to me to be the more compatible choice. An overlooked but significant caveat.
I'm new to the pro gimbal setup, and there was a really good deal for me to acquire the crane 3s, my current camera is nikon z9, so to me, the payload is more important then anything else, took me sometime to figure out the each parts of this crane 3s, so far one thing surprise me is the z9 compare to you folks using, the crane 3s consider the z9 its light setup (lol) , the motors don't have to work that hard to balance the setup. After watched the entire the video (thank you folks for this great comparision) , as I mentioned the gimbal I got was a really really good deal (no where near the 3 years ago MSRP) so with all those plus points yall mentioned in the video, IMHO, I just hit jackpot for this :)
Points you mentioned in the video, I fully agree with all those minus parts and even more with the good part, but those minus part I believe its not as bad as usually product defective, and its more like the balance the production cost or maybe just poor choice in the design. for the good part, especially the battery, I really dont mind to have 18650, and its great, save me even more for adding second set for the backup. Once again thanks for this great video, I'm try to learn more from still image capturing to the video capturing....
A couple of points. First, you don't need a mobile phone to calibrate the gimbal, just use the dial and use the calibrate setting. Mine worked fine right off the bat. Secondly, that SmallRig collar has NATO rails on two sides and is perfect for attaching a side handle, like one of the SmallRig ones with a fitted NATO clamp. It makes not just holding and focus wheel control easier, but also lifting and putting the gimbal down.
You would use the rosette and mark it with dry erase for choreographed shots. If you, as the operator have to go from mark to mark and your talent has to do the same thing, you can know where those focus positions ought to be when everyone (hopefully) lands on their marks. I can see it being a useful aid, especially if you don't have a 1st backing you up.
great discussion, thanks guys!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really want you guys to go over Tilta eco system for RS2!!
Just started looking into the cheapish gimabls that can hold a matte box and cam setup and found this video. Fantastic work guys, you went through all the points that affect yourselves and mentioned a few things not many others mention (v-mount etc.). Cheers from Australia.
Thank for watching!
Does the carbon fiber of the RS2 give it extra flex? When the gimbal is put on the table at 3:53 you see the camera rock back and forth while the stand seems solid on the table. I noticed this wobble as well in some footage I saw online (especially if you check corners, distant buildings etc). Thanks for this amazing video, I'm undecided between these 2 :)
It feels like it has a little but we haven't noticed it causing any big issues. Obviously the heavier the camera on it the more I'm guessing it would cause problems, well keep an eye out for it going forward. The Carbon fiber is nice because it's so light but the crane 3s is definitely more solid and rigid with the metal build
@@threefoldtv Can you "bend" it manually? Ah well, if you haven't noticed it then it should be fine. Anyway, ordered the C3S right after this video. Should have it in 2-3 days. Thanks guys! Nice to see a decent in-depth video instead of the standard rushy 5-10 min videos. :P
great video, thanks for the review guys!
great review thanks a lot. Weight difference is the most important aspect for me. YMMV though
Very true, the rs2 is an incredibly lightweight rig and makes a big difference for longer shoots.
did you guys have an issue with wobble on the crane 3s because of how wide the BMPCC is? I know others have had that issue and its the only thing stopping me from buying it right now
Good video. I was more interested in the Crane, as I'm looking for something to use with a large camcorder, but I think you gave them both a fair and comprehensive overview.
Guys, tell me which stabilizer is better for shooting near the ground, I need to shoot small cars, the camera should be down 95% of the time, what do you advise, not necessarily from these two, I use a sony a7c camera
I also forgot to say that the stabilizer is for one hand, the second hand needs to drive a car
Very informative
Okayyy but what cameras can you not put on the rs2, can we throw an ursa on there, old red, rigged out arri??
Not even close. The RS2 already struggles balancing a KOMODO with a medium size lens.
@@serhanmeewisse6458 Frrrrr
do you know if the Rs2 works with BMPC6k PRO with 18-35?
Thank you very much,,Great review.
What do you guys think about the Tilta Ecosystem for the RS2? The amount of functionality it expands the RS2 to have is really enticing. Even though we'd need to use counterbalances with Tokina's ATX cine lineup we're thinking that the ecosystem may be worth it. (Shooting on pocket 4k/6ks too).
Yeah Tiltas ecosystem is probably one of the biggest selling points for us as to weather we keep it or not. We're hoping Tilta continues to add onto the ecosystem with more rigging pieces so that v-mount batteries can be easily placed in the front of the gimbal (similar to our old ronin S build)
@@threefoldtv Their advanced ring actually has contact points for a vmount attachment so that's pretty interesting. But for in front of the gimbal im not too sure.
@@EasyButtonFTW Yeah I really do appreciate how much Tilta has integrated V-Mounts with the ecosystem, hoping they allow for more v-mount mounting options down the road! Were really excited to see the stedicam system they have for the RS2 as that looks like it integrates with the TB50 Inspire 2 batteries!
@@threefoldtv Absolutely! We're looking at the steadicam system too as well as the alien arm.
@@EasyButtonFTW also looking at the alien car mount and check out the DF Photo Thanos ProII it’s similar to the Tilta trinity thing but slightly cheaper and works on any gimbal.
If you guys end up getting the float steadicam system please consider making a video! That is my next big potential investment.
We've definitely been looking into it! If we do we'll definitely make a video!!
Thanks for the review, it was super interesting and engaging 👍🏾
I am pickin a gimbal for my bmpcc with sigma 18-35 and it is a definately hard choice. On one hand crane 3s that can carry a tank, but is heavy itself as a tank and on the other hand dji rs2, its light and a promising lidar technology, but it can carry my camera only when i remove some parts like top handle and a monitor which means it will take more time to change from handheld to gimbal and back. But also resting my hands and back between takes will take more time if i pick crane 3s. Damn.
I’m in the same predicament but just for future proof I’m going for the Crane 3. You can always put a small camera on a big gimbal but you can’t put a big camera on a small gimbal.
Subbed, great video guys. But I've found for me personally that upright gimbals are best for me because I often use the gimbal in Pan/Tilt Follow mode. The thing with gimbals with the handle in the back is you tend to tilt them forward to hold them comfortably. Which in PTF mode causes the camera to tilt down. Obviously you can hold a trigger or something to temporarily lock that, but I've found that a dual handle setup as opposed to the rear handle forces me to hold the gimbal in the best position. As of right now, I think the best two gimbals on the market (to me) are the DJI RS2 and the Moza Air 2s. I really wanted the Moza Air 2s but apparently, it's sold out everywhere, so I went with the RS2 Pro.
Obrigado pelas as informações que compartilharam aqui, estava em duvida em qual comprar, agora não mais. abraços
witch camera we used and what name the lens we used
Thank you!
Thank you for your review. I have a question, from your experience, is the RSc2 a good and easy to use gimbal for portrait/vertical video shooting? Thanks.
I need a gimbal to also perform as a remote pan/tilt system as well. I've searched for wireless remote system add ons but don't feel like I have a definitive answer.
I'll be using the gimbal with small to medium sized camcorders, a C100 and zoom lenses, or a Fuji X4 with zoom lenses.
I cover motor sports and need something that can be mounted either on top my van, or possibly across the track that can be controlled from inside my van.
For my traditional hand held shooting needs I believe either gimbal would be alright, but whichever could handle the long hours of rotation following racers around a track best will get my money. Do these gimbals pan 360 degrees with ability to do consecutive rotations?
Any advice guys, thanks much.
Damn great discussion on these two gimbals. Very informative.
great review❤
Great review. Thanks.
you just made me buy 3s, I hope I can use sony FX9 with it tho.
How is it going so far?
@@MtZionMediaPro I've been using it for 6 months now almost every week. it's too heavy for long usage. the wireless transmission app is bugged, it disconnects a lot, very good for amateurs but not suitable for pros.
gimbal can easly carry fx6, but fx9 is a bit heavy for it, may be I dont know how to adjust it properly, when I make extreme movements it doesn't stabilize properly.
I was very excited about the tracking feature with the Raven eye. How does the crane stack up?
Raveneye is a DREAM
Have you guys made a decision on which gimbal you’ll use moving forward? Are you rigging it out like you did the Ronin-S? Would love to see or hear an update!
We still have both currently, but we have rigged out the RS2 similar to how we rigged out the original Ronin S but it took quite a bit of creativity to make it work. If we didn't have the Ronin 2 we would hands down go with the Crane 3S, but because we have a bigger gimbal were still figuring out if the crane 3s is something were gonna need to keep or not.
@@threefoldtv that’s great! Thanks for the update! It seems like the 3S is rating better than the RS2 in stabilization too. Have you found powering through camera with the additional Crane 3S batteries to be solid enough for long use stretches or nah?
Great video guys! I recently bought the RS2 as an upgrade to the ronin S so I could balance the FX6 son it. I am very disappointed with the RS2 and have decided the crane 3 is way better for the job.
Did you purchase the Crane 3 now?
@@kwestmedia4116 I bought the crane 3 the same day I watched this. I Had it for a day and then sent it back.
It’s a shame because the crane 3 was very promising. It balanced my fully rigged FX6 but it was really heavy. The handle design is incredibly awkward and makes it practically impossible to pick up with two hands. It’s also very Chinese, I know they both are but the crane just had that cheap, old school Chinese gel to it. The buttons don’t feel like buttons either, they feel loose and plasticky and don’t make a satisfying click.
They also get in the way massively and I kept changing modes when I picked it up.
It’s just not very intuitive at all.
There’s definitely a gap in the market.
@@skatepark02 What do you use currently? The RS2 or the Crane? Or did u buy another gimbal instead?
@@KnightTwilightV I’m back on the RS2 again. It’s as good as the ronin S with different strengths and weaknesses. I’m hoping to get the tilta ring eventually and power everything via V mount. I still haven’t used it on a job yet.
@@skatepark02 he clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing the bigger your camera the bigger your gimbal ffs of course it’s going to be heavy it’s not gonna be light? Wtf
You guys didnt even talk about Raven eye and the phone holder thingy!!
Which one is best for the 6k pro ultimately?
Crane 3s! I use with cage, battery grip and lark 150 mic receptor. Use medium motor set.
I am really curious as to how you managed to get your BMPCC 6K camera to work on the Crane 3S. No matter how I rig mine I cannot get it to mount without vibration from the upper motor. My Sony A7sIII cameras work perfectly however.
I‘m also interested in this. Also in the rigged out configuration :)
I've managed to balance my 4.1kg BMPCC4K rig (NP-F battery plate, monitor, Rode Video Mic NTG, matte box, heavy lens and whatnot) on my Crane 3s without issues, nor do I have to use the extra power pack and I'm running the gimbal at its lowest power setting. It's easy if you have your rig properly set up beforehand. This link shows what that rig looks like: australianimage.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/BMPCC4K-3.jpg.
Also had the same problem. And for android users, their app is horrible. I returned mine and went with the RS2. No issues.
@@TheToneWork The gimbal app is ordinary to say the least, but the TransMount Transmitter app works quite well and I use it often. The balancing is very easily sorted out if you have your camera sorted out, as I explained in my video from two months back titled: BMPCC4K/6K Gimbal - Simply The Best? Zhiyun Crane 3s Pro. I won't post a link as sometimes these kill the post.
If you can't balance a camera on the Crane 3s, you're doing it wrong.
Had the same problem. Just go to the motor settings and increase the torque.
The s3 was the very first product I got prerelease
Good and funny video at the end. I really believe it comes down to the size of the camera at the end of the day in general. The Crane 3s can handle bigger setups obviously. The RS2 looks better, app is overall better and more intuitive. Quality of the RS2 is better also. This video kept my attention the whole time, and yes I love gimbals.
i've had the rsc2 with my sigma 18-35 sony a7iii and it's very jerky and jittery, im guessing thats because it was front heavy... which gimbal would you recommend for my setup?
Crane 3s because there’s far more clearance than the ronin rs2
Also the crane 3s has a much higher payload for higher payloads! For when you gets bigger body down the line.
Not sure if you guys used the new firmware for the RS2 yet but they improved the settings both on the gimbal and in the app as well as better motor controls. Don’t really need the app at all now for RS2. They also fixed the jitter wobble issues. RS2 is picky about balancing.
Crane3s pro empty weighs more than the RS2 fully rigged. Their app sucks and you can’t edit every gimbal setting without using the app. However no issues balancing at all.
We haven't updated the firmware yet as we weren't having many issues, we'll have to check that out though!
As for weight thats not entirely true, if you have a lightweight lens and camera then that may be the case. For our setup with our Pocket 6k, 11-20 Cine and the focus motor on both units the RS2 weighs in at 9.9lbs and the Crane 3S weighs in at 12.8 lbs. Without the camera and lens (but including the focus motor) the RS2 weighs in at 4.4lbs and the Crane 3S at 7.3lbs.
I definitely do agree with the app tho, the DJI app is much better.
@@threefoldtv I didn’t weigh them it was more so the feeling in hand to be honest. Also I ran both with a caged pocket 4K and DZO 20-70 mft lens which is almost a 3lb lens that’s very long.
@@codypchristian Gotcha, I will say its pretty impressive how much weight they have managed to cut off the RS2!
@@threefoldtv I agree! Also in my case I was running the vmount power pack on the crane 3S pro so that added more weight too. Either gimbal paired with the DF Photo Thanos ProII is a perfect combo or the DJI Tilta Ecosystem.
@@codypchristian O yeah, I've been eyeing that DF Photo Thanos for a bit, and it looks pretty sweet! I'm also really excited to see more info on the one Tiltas been working on!
Love the video!
I bought 3s to utilize on my Glidecam and studio Jib for older 1080 dslr and camera rigs, I don't think I will ever move up to 4k,6k
You keep the arm on for the RS 2 and you add a quick release to both ends, problem solved. That said, QC control w/ DJI is awful. I owned all three. Crane 3s, 2s and RS 2.
Also, love the 11-20 lens. Got mine a couple months ago, it's been great! I love having a longer throw with an electronic follow focus.
2nd the QC issues with DJI. The first RS2 I received had a faulty tilt sensor (or IMU or accelerometer, I don't really know). It couldn't sense the horizontal tilt, which prevented it from calibrating, balance checking, or auto tuning, and made the gimbal completely unusable.
I still haven't opened the box... so I'll get back to you.
Very great video! But i can not decide which one is the best for me :) i like the RS2 but i also like the Crane 3 too :D I have comparisions but its so hard to find out whats the best :P I have had a Ronin SC before and i was not very lucky with it because its so stupid to balance my Nikon Z6 with Lenses.... i have one mai camera and i want to use it for video and photo and the balancing act was horrible all the time.... in this case i believe the crane 3 is the best choice.... i love the touchscreen of the RS2 but maybe its not worth to take it if the camera balancing is horrible too.... i never use my Ronin SC anymore.... :(
Yeah thats a tough decision, the Crane 3s is way more flexible when it comes to balancing especially if the camera starts to get heavier. The RS2 feels a little more refined and the touch screen has been pretty handy. They are both excellent options, and you can't go wrong either way. :)
My issue is that 10 pounds for 'any' brand isn't enough, if you want to shoot with an actual cinema camera like Arri, Venice, Ursa, RED, etc. I really like DJI's other gear but I have to go with a Crane 3S, even with its faults, because it can have a 14.5 pound payload. Their Crane 4 is way too short, where you can't get a rig camera on there now. Dunno why they did that.
Guys that ending was weird... It felt like a breakup :-)
Hey man... if you need to talk about it, let us know.
@@threefoldtv :-) No need mate... But it was a very informative video. Now here is the issue I am having. I need to get a gimbal. I have found a Ronin S for £300 and this gimbal is going for £600+ do you think it is that much better than a Ronin-S - All the major filmmakers swear by the Ronin-S - The only thing that I can see that I may need is the locking and the follow thing...
What are your thoughts? Many thanks
@@m77ast I would hands down go with the Crane 3s over the original Ronin S! The locking axis, and slightly larger size makes balancing different cameras way easier and allows you to do so without using counterbalance weights. Its also more future proofed since the Crane 3s can handle larger payloads as well as larger cameras.
You should look up the origins of the word "Chintzy"
Take a shot every time they say 'chintzy'
Balancing on Ronin is pretty stupid compare to the crane...
They are not similar as you are concluding. Crane is planned well and the best one.
shotgun mic is not a good choice in this situation I think :)
.... too late, bought the Crane3s
seems like some sexual tension between thos two gimbals
Ax-eees
axsises
lol
How much did u Zhiyun pay u guys! Come on
crane 3 is just to bulky lol
The Zhiyun is just crap, at least the crane 3 version 1. The firmware is crazy to update, they don't update to other camera's and it weird overheat messages. But the worst is the contact with them, it feels they are just a small company with copycat gestures. DJI feels more refined as a company.
Great review but way way too long, 8-10 mins
Yeah comparing the two just got out of hand. But thanks for the feedback! Hopefully the chapters saved you see time
I liked the long video for what it’s worth - I watch youtube vids on my computer or ipad 23 while in split screen doing something else.....lots of info here.