Zhiyun Crane 3S - Review (and who's it for?)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2024
- Where to get the Zhiyun Crane:
Ireland:
www.camera.ie/
camerakit.ie/
UK:
www.wexphotovideo.com/
www.parkcameras.com/
cvp.com/
www.proav.co.uk/
www.cinegearpro.co.uk/
USA:
amzn.to/3461dyz
The Zhiyun Crane 3s is a high-payload single handed (kinda) gimbal that's ideal for heavier camera setups in which you need a a lot of clearance for the camera to operate. If you intend on shooting with heavier cameras, rigged cameras or mirrorless type cameras with telephoto lenses then this gimbal is ideal. If you only shoot with small light cameras then the Zhiyun Crane 3s is probably overkill. Instead, get yourself a Weebil.
The build quality is decent with the upper metal parts of the gimbal which has the motors being solid and rather slick looking. The lower 'control' parts such as the 45º handle and buttons aren't as good quality. They work fine and are functional but not as nice as what would appear on say a DJI product.
Ergonomically, out oif the box, the Crane 3S is a bit of a handful and isn't the easiest gimbal to pick up off the ground. You can buy a handle that makes it easier. That said, it's one of the nicest gimbals to use in low / briefcase mode in which you could shoot all day when it's like that.
You can get extra accessories for the gimbal like handles and follow focus but for now I just used the bare camera. I prefer to control the camera on it's own and I don't usually like using focus wheels on gimbals so I didn't do any advanced operation as of yet. As far as I know, you can control the camera fairly well with it. The app is handy to have but in my opinion it needs a bit of refining by Zhiyun, it's not overly concise.
I originally received a Crane S3 from my Zhiyun dealer to review back in the early part of the summer and I had slight problems with it as it appeared to have shake. Because it was one of the first models off the assembly line, I assumed that it was either faulty or had an issue with firmware or something. But sadly, I had actually shot a lot with it without looking back at the footage (lesson learned!). Some of the shots are from this version of the gimbal. Then a few weeks later I was sent another 'working' unit and this fortunately was working much better. Though the footage is steady, I will say, it's still not giving me fully satisfyingly smooth results. I am a sucker for smoothness!
I would recommend the Zhiyun Crane 3s for anyone looking to fly bigger heavier cameras but if you're a mirrorless camera shooter who uses smaller wider lenses, then a more compact, lighter gimbal would probably be handier.
I hope you liked the video, it's a bit longer than planned but please like and share and feel free to drop in a comment which I may just reply to!
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Great video Hugh, thanks for covering all bases!
I really appreciate your honesty in this review. Great job
Great review Hugh, was great to see it in action during your workshop.
Thanks a mill Noel, you almost made this edit by the way! Hope all is well with the new vids. Send on anything you've finished.
Great video! Testing this out next week, so this gave me lots of insight going into that. Appreciate it!
Thanks Taylor. Enjoy!
Thank you for such a great film to explain my new crane, so happy with it and thanks to you I'm ahead of the game!
Nice one, enjoy!
This is a great no nonsense and useful appraisal. Mine arrives next week for my somewhat heavy Sony FX9 rig, so your tips will come in very useful.
Great video, I’m looking for a gimbal to do videography for a race car team, since I’ll be shooting a lot of shots with either a 70-200, or 200-600, I’m definitely looking at a more beefy gimbal like this. I think it will be a good fit, thanks for all the info and cool video mate
Thanks for taking you time to teach us
Great review ! I think the Crane 3S is a gimbal to be used with both hands, especially with shots that you are running (unless your in underslung mode)
Excellent review, many thanks!
It has been used several times and loved.
Excellent review, champ. You've more than earned a subscription from me. Cheers.
I’ve got an R6, using a battery grip, and RF L lenses. I’ve tried to Weebill S, but the eyepiece hits the rear motor - I was so bummed! I’m looking forward to getting my Crane!!
Useful video, great explanation! Thanks
Great Content.. we use this Gimbal With The PAN BGH1 and Syrui Anamorphic lens And its a Great set up
Subscribed, thank you for honest and informative review. Thinking of which gimbal to buy - If you have any suggestions would really appreciate it.
I've read alot of reviews with shakiness on this one
It's hard to know exactly what one is best when there's so many. The new 2s may be better for you if you don't have a heavy camera. Thanks a lot for the sub, really appreciate it.
5:00 Love the familiar Claddagh setting in Galway City. No swans that day🤫
I have my S1H with a 24-70mm 2.8 on a Ronin S and its really a Bit of a struggle for the ronin. Especially when i want to 360 roll. And the camera has to be perfectly balanced. But i think i will Stick to my ronin for now. Good video as always Coach kavanagh :)
Cheers. If the camera is balanced we it shouldn't be that much work for the motors. I still kept my Ronin too. Must try it again. H
The shake is a result of insufficient power to the motors, especially when in undersling position. Many users have found that all the shake goes completely away when you add the large power pack option to the gimbal (which gives the motors full power as well as you can also use to power acceao, such as an external monitor). Cheers!
That's crazy because the power that's delivered to the motors from the batteries is a lot. Theres no shortage of power especially for a well balanced light camera. In fact most users say to have the gimbal set on lowest motor power. But I see your point, I may try this.
I believe Zhiyun specifically said this is not the case. That said, I had issues with my first gimbal they couldn't troubleshoot so I'm on my second one. It's a little shaky here and there, trying to figure it out still :/
@@buddyfx7026 yeah, its crazy to release a gimbal that needs a power pack to make it more steady. Sounds like you're in the same boat as me then.
@@HuFilms I'm probably going to purchase the power pack, if that resolves it then I'll honestly be very happy. That said, if that's the case then why lie?? Tha'ts what'll make me pissed. Been a fan of Zhiyun for awhile now.
@@buddyfx7026 let me know how it works out then. I'm curious to know.
Great video.
Great review. Coming from adverts, I have crane 3 lab myself but it's a bit hard to get it right with Bmpcc4k wonder if this one would be any better. Motors look a little bigger anyway. Thumbs up for the review!
Thanks a lot. This will surely hold the camera as it's seriously big and powerful. It also has an extension arm. Worth a shot I think.
It doesnt do well with the pocket 4k
@@glennparker8247 how so??
Great video! Bigger cameras work way better because of the weight. We are going to get this for our House Red Dragon. Looks like it can handle it for sure.
You can't get much heavier than a Sigma 70-200 sports which I used.
@@HuFilmshow is it in comparison with DJI RS 3 Gimbal Stabilizer.?? I mean which one is best in these 2 options.??
Thank you!!!Very interesting
So nice n useful ... thanks
Thank you so much Hugh. Incredible video, and it help me so much after to try understand so much times the bad translation in Portugueses and English of the Instruction PDF download from the Zhiyun web site, an huge catastrophe. You really help me. Kind regards and everything good for you.
Thanks a lot!
good man! thanks.
Great information. I'm lookin for something for the Sigma 150-600. This came up. Would anyone else have suggestions? Or should I just buy a new lens?
Good Job!!! Thanks
Well, first things first: if that woman is your girlfriend, you are surely doing something right in this life. But in addition to that irreplaceable bit of opinion, nice job on the review! Really well thought out, well delivered, and it helped me a great deal in deciding to look further into the gimbal. Frankly, I was considering a Movi Pro, but if this (inexpensive!) thing is as useable as you suggest, maybe it's the way to go. Thanks so much for your time and trouble. Cheers!
I feel like this gimbals would be great for documentary shoots, and weddings, as most of the time i'd be in the "low down" mode
Yeah, good point. It's easy hold it upright too with both hands.
Hi Hugh again, hope you are well and I have a question, loving my S3, ok, it's got some weight and in looking for a shoulder strap type system I cannot find anything, lots for Ronin and the S2, any advice you can offer? Thanks in advance :-)
Great review, thanks! I wonder if it will still pack into the carry case with the extension arm attached? It seems like not. I run a Pocket 6K with relatively heavy rigging (full cage, heavy Zeiss glass, full size focus motor, tentacle timecode box) and I wonder if I'd want to leave that extension installed pretty much all the time, or if I'd need it at all.
You won't know 'til you try it. Honestly, if using the arm I'd recommend just leaving it on. Switching it often might cause damage to the fine wires to the motor.
Thanks btw!
I eventually found a another reviewer who managed to fit the gimbal into the factory box WITH the extension arm attached! So it seems they must've thought that far ahead. I'm relieved, and will be ordering one in the coming weeks.
@@zoanyway What’s it like? I’ve got a similar rig and I’m thinking of getting the Crane 3S.
@@johnallerston as a matter of fact, it's pretty great, once you get all the quirks worked out. The app is weak, but the hardware is incredibly strong. But it's also WAY too heavy, and much easier to run with the SmallRig ring added. I run it with a heavy, fully rigged Z-cam E2F6, and a friend has even run it with a RED (DSMC2, not sure exactly which one, but not the Komodo).
Hi I read the wireless transmitter internal battery only last 1.5 hours, seems short and have to recharge during a shoot? Will the additional Zhiyun battery power pack provide continuous power or is there another solution? Would like to have feed to an iPad all day for client. Thanks!
Smooth work with gimbals and Steadicam are are like ballet moves or dancing smoothly. It's an art that takes practice. In short, it's not totally up to the equipment to make you video creamy smooth. When you get the "duck walk" down the smooth will happen.
Yeah, that’s true and that’s why I use my bike a lot!
Does it have a vertical mount like the Crane 2s? It doesn't look like it from what I'm viewing. Please let me know! Thanks!
Great video
Thanks a lot.
What lens are you using on the Canon? I like it! Looks like there’s an ND filter on it too
Looking for a gamble for my fully rigged A7s iii and a 28 to135 lens. It will be used for news gathering. I think this is the one. Your thoughts?
yeah get this one, bec i think your lens would be too heavy and in future if you plan for an external monitor, zhiyun could carry the weight
were you able to get the remote control to work with the s1? I cant seem for the life of me to get the control handle to record on the s1. I read somewhere they werent compatible.
Never even tried it!
Would this work for a SL3 camera? Thanks!
does anyone use this and have a nikon. want to know if the live view mode works when recording
Great video! Do you recommend this gimbal for light weight camera? I’m a beginner.
Definitly not. A weebil or smilar is better
Does this gimbal work 100% with the Lumix FZ2000?
Crane 3 s vs crane 3 lab
Hi
What do you think is the best deal ??
I used 5d iii , black magic Production 4k / black magic pocket 6k
Honestly, I can't really say as I don't have the lab.
i wouldnt say i shoot with a heavy set-up, but my lenses are pretty heavy. my body is pretty light way lighter than the lenses. the issues i have is balancing the camera. front end is always heavier. is the quick release plate pretty long? to push the camera to the back to balance out? alot of gimbals will hit the back motor but this gimbal looks really huge with a lot of clearance. Do u recommend?
Align the plate to the centre of gravity of the camera with lens on and it should be well balanced. If you use adapted lenses it might work well if you fit the plate to the adaptor via a bracket.
Hugh Sweeney Thanks for the reply buddy! So i’m guessing this gimbal has what it takes for my requirement i’d say?
@@iz5442 cheers. Yeah, it'll handle pretty much any camera setup.
Would this be a good option for my Sony a7siii with sigma 24-70
I would look into the slightly smaller Crane 2s or a Ronin sc maybe. Depends on weight of the lens. tis gimbal is really best suited to heavier cameras but that's just my opninion.
hi sir what kind of lens was that you've attached the other zoom one? what's the specific model, focal length & brand?
Probably the Tokina T3? 11-16 cine lens.
@@HuFilms no sorry the other one with a long focal length..
Will the 5d mark 3 work good with this? I am interested in the follow focus , is it compatible ?
Canon 5D Mark 3 is in the compatible list of this item gimbal: zhiyun-website-shenzhen.oss-cn-shenzhen.aliyuncs.com/instruction/20230802/1690943820625-8YPTNxFh.pdf
Hi! I've trying to find a Gimbal for my Canon XA50 video camera, but so hard to find any information. Do you know or think I can use that camera on this Gimbal?
you can check this .m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91Sy1-KjlfL.pdf
@@Jason97t23 Thank you so much :)
Hey! What gimbal would you recommend for cannon 70d + sigma 18-35mm lens?
Unless you're going bigger and heavier on the camera i would maybe go with the 2s.
@@HuFilms thaaank you! I was also considering feyutech ak4500, but i dont see cannon 70 d or sigma on their compatibility list...
Can cañón 60d run on it?
I have canon 80d and sigma 18-35mm 1.8 dc will it be good to buy the crane 3s?
You might be better off with the 2s if I'm honest
How did you turn the camera around by focusing on this woman? Because I can't do that. Please make a video on this setting of Crane 3s
Which part of video?
@@HuFilms Vortex mode @ 16:30, I can't get my crane 3s to do that neither
Would this work for a Sony a6300 camera with a FE 70-200mm lense on it?
Yes, with the extension arm
@@HuFilms what's the extension arm?
@@HuFilms does the extension arm come with it or is that an accessory I have to buy seperate?
V Mode. Movies made in 2017. Hilarious. I love it.
When using a gimbal do you turn off IS on the lens?
No, I wouldn't. It'll also assist. Having it off may run the risk of shaking the sensor when it's loose. Not too sure either but leave it on for now.
The shake is likely due to not having it on heavy or high weight mode from the other reviews I have seen.
Interesting, as far as I knew, the lighter motor settings were recommended for a standard mirrorless.
Hugh Sweeney yeah I watched a few videos to decide if I wanted to buy it, and they said changing that setting made a massive difference and took out the shake.
Hugh Sweeney let me know if you get a chance to test and see if that’s the case
@@thomasnunn6343 OK, awesome. I'd only buy it if youre using a heavy cam or long lenses. The 2s might be better for most lighter cams.
what camra you use???
Can a Sony NX200 camera run on it?
Definitly!
What lens were you using on your S1?
In this vid the Tokina t3 cine mostly. Also the Sigma 24-70.
12:18, how do you have no slim rubber case for the phone?
lol, I did have a case and it smashed when it fell whilst cycling. Hence the cracked phone. I'm getting a new one soon!
@@HuFilms How did you not secure your phone while cycling?
What camera is that?
Is the the 3S the same as the 3 Lab?
No, it's a newer more heavyweight gimbal.
Does 5 beeps signal that it is unbalanced?
No idea, sorry!
Hello friend. In your video, the picture twitches and shakes at 05:29. Tell me what is the problem?
Yes, this was a problem with the first gimbal I had. They replaced it. If you listen to what I say in the video it'll become clearer.
friend, Thank you 🙏 for answering. I have not slept at night for 3 months now and am trying to resolve the issue. When you move forward backward straight, everything does not shake, the picture does not twitch? My picture is twitching. How did you balance the camera on the gimbal? Teach me friend. Please help 🤝🙏I heard somewhere that the problem is that 🎥 Blackmagic 6K's camera is very wide. How do you put the power of the motor? - in AUTO mode? It's not even a matter of weight, and the author says about this: th-cam.com/video/WOR1aGVXZu0/w-d-xo.html. EXTERNAL CAMERA SUPPLY HOW DID YOU DONE? I BOUGHT A PLATFORM WITH A BATTERY. WHERE DID YOU INSTALL THIS SITE SO THAT WAS LESS VIBRATION? THANKS IN ADVANCE 🙏 🤝🤝🤝WAIT EXPERTISE FOR AN ANSWER
Hugh Sweeney I can’t listen, I don’t know English well. Did you have a Crane 2 - did everything twitch and shake with it?
@@very9000 Hi, I appreciate you asking me these questions to seek knowledge but the best thing to do is join the Zhiyun FB group and put up a post there/. That way you'll have a lot more suggestions and tips than what I can go into here.
Hugh Sweeney they didn't really help me
seems unlikely that this gimbal should have those wobble issues, because the earlier zhiyun gimbals "1 and 2" don't have that problem, I have owned both of them, they have always been super smooth.
Yeah, you'd think. But this is a different beast. I watched a good few other reviews on it and saw some movement. I'm still convinced I can get it smoother but as for now, the camera is balanced perfectly. Thanks for the comment Matt.
@@HuFilms have you tried lowering the motors strenght?
@@nachofarias785 yeah, I mostly used the lowest strength and used the one above that too!
Hugh Sweeney could it be that the camera & lens you have on are too light for the 3s?
@@EvenBiggerChungus its debatable. The 24-70 is a heavy lens and should be enough to engage the motors fully. It's not this I would say. Theres videos of Ursa mini's on this gimbal that show similar wobble to what I'm getting.
It’s not easy balancing the camera at all had a problem for days
You may have been doing it wrong then as it's an easy device to setup.
that gimbal is heavy af LOL
Great vid #roziill
Crane 3s
One weak point you missed are the 4 screws on the baseplate that attach to the arm. They are tapped in aluminum and strip very easily. They should have made that part stainless steel or at the very least put stainless steel inserts into the aluminum. Imagine flying an expensive red camera and the screws strip out. Very stupid design
Its 360° .....?
Yes!
Please translate for Indonesian..🙏🏻🙏🏻
those shakes are not because of the Gimbal but because of YOU haha... your camera is literally TOO light for that gimbal and the motor is doing more than your suggesting it to... make sure to properly calibrate and make sure you've added weights if its still shaking and then go from there
I understand what you're saying but the camera with heavy cine lens and adaptor isn't that light. Also when used with 70-200 lens. I've see similar movement in videos where guys used Ursa Mini's.
I've always found the ergonomics and build quality of the Zhiyun gimbals to be really poor. Also though it's not important. They look really ugly.