2022 Toyota GR 86 Review - The Perfect Affordable Sports Car!

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  • 2022 Toyota GR 86 / Subaru BRZ Review - This Is What Driving Is All About!
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    The 2022 Toyota GR 86 is back with more engine! Instead of the previous 2.0L Boxer 4-cylinder, it's now powered by a bigger-bore 2.4L Boxer 4-cylinder, making 23 extra horsepowers and 28 more lb-ft of torque! All in a package that weighs nearly the same. We'll discuss the engine, manual and automatic transmissions, the decision not to go turbo, the driving dynamics and handling, the interior, ride comfort, and changes versus the previous generation.
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  • @EngineeringExplained
    @EngineeringExplained  2 ปีที่แล้ว +568

    Delighted that everyone knows pistons move side-to-side in boxer engines. Thanks for watching!

    • @MattyEngland
      @MattyEngland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Lol, those of us who aren't pedantic morons knew what you meant 👍😂

    • @lashlarue7924
      @lashlarue7924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks for posting this, Jason!

    • @Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged
      @Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Does this flat 4 require 93 octane like the last one? Or did they come to their senses and engineer it to run on 91 or even 87?

    • @acchaladka
      @acchaladka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged 93 or better, sorry to all the potential buyers who will now go mx-5 I guess.

    • @shadowfoxreaper
      @shadowfoxreaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So its running a Suburu FA20 with 10.6:1 and boost? yeah garbage

  • @the_original_Bilb_Ono
    @the_original_Bilb_Ono 2 ปีที่แล้ว +902

    My dream car. I want one so bad. Its something that i can actually buy in the future if i keep working hard.

    • @yungboicontigo9278
      @yungboicontigo9278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      I hope you get one bro!

    • @noahr.6071
      @noahr.6071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Same here!

    • @FreshlySnipes
      @FreshlySnipes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Keep up the hard work my friend. Great things will come!

    • @Elliothyunh
      @Elliothyunh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @Team rocket rockin If he says it’s his dream car, then it’s his dream car, simple.

    • @jameskamsang6238
      @jameskamsang6238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @Team rocket rockin at least his dream car is achievable

  • @allboyshatebras
    @allboyshatebras 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1151

    Best part of this video? Hearing that he uses his indicators. Nobody’s too cool to signal their turns.

    • @Mr.Marbles
      @Mr.Marbles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      petition to get all drivers who dont use indicators on a roundabout to be pulled to the side of the road and just get shot in the head immediately. when you could have entered the roundabout 5 minutes ago but these guys just dont indicate that they leave, you will know my rage.

    • @serhiy2020
      @serhiy2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      If there’s no one around there’s absolutely no reason to use indicators

    • @serhiy2020
      @serhiy2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Mr.Marbles relying on turn signals in a roundabout is dangerous. Drivers have very little time between exits so if someone is using a turn signal it’s hard to know which exit they will be using. It’s probably safer to not use turn signals in a roundabout

    • @kylesanders8276
      @kylesanders8276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@serhiy2020 Other than to of course maintain good habits. Would you not keep your finger off the trigger even if you're the only one at the range? At that point, it's about personal integrity and discipline.

    • @x_Oeuf
      @x_Oeuf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      When people don't use their indicators, I pass them and switch lanes a few times using my indicator to teach them 😂

  • @josefgordon7712
    @josefgordon7712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    Great review! I am so happy Japan is carrying the mantle of making fun cars with great style. Between this, the Nissan Z, and the Integra I am refreshed and relieved that the endless march of washing machine SUVs hasn't crushed the soul of the automotive industry yet....

    • @Synchromesh123
      @Synchromesh123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Don't worry, Tesla will finish crushing that soul with their cookie cutter electric devices they seem to call cars. Once those take over in the near future, it's over.

    • @350z33hr
      @350z33hr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lazy. Toyota out-sourcing the engine from Subaru as they did with the Supra from BMW. They could have thrown the GR Yaris engine on this one

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Synchromesh123 Never!

    • @josefgordon7712
      @josefgordon7712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@350z33hr yeah, they COULD have done a lot of things but they chose to keep their partnership with Subaru and just evolve the platform. I'm hoping they come out with a GR Corolla with the GR Yaris engine. Wouldn't call it lazy tho ... They improved the engine, transmission, chassis, suspension, interior, exterior design.

    • @Iisakkiik
      @Iisakkiik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Synchromesh123 K

  • @caleblarsen5490
    @caleblarsen5490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +440

    You know it's at least a decent car when Jason is smiling.

    • @rolandotillit2867
      @rolandotillit2867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      With the new MX5 this FRS I'm just glad people have choices for affordably priced rear wheel drive sport cars. Honda and Nissan need to join the party ASAP.

    • @fraided88
      @fraided88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rolandotillit2867 Nissan has the new Z. 40k for 400hp and beautiful design. Honda is coming up with a new Integra. Probably around 35-40k range hopefully.

    • @t.k.morris
      @t.k.morris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fraided88 Is the Integra going to have a manual transmission option?

    • @rolandotillit2867
      @rolandotillit2867 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FixingWithFriends Too true! It's a shame as well. The new NSX is a fantastic car, people judge it against other cars and don't see it for what it really is. Like the S2k you know Honda put some love into it.

    • @OmegaF77
      @OmegaF77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fraided88 The Integra is FWD but since I like both drivetrains I'd give it a spin.

  • @maximus9401
    @maximus9401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Thank you so much for pointing out the whole torque thing. It kept bugging me how every single person reviewing this car completely misunderstood the torque figures and kept just reporting this misrepresented torque figure. Peak numbers don't tell the whole story people!

    • @jackwinklebean
      @jackwinklebean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yes, everyone else is just repeating the marketing talking point that peak torque is available lower. This is the only video I've seen so far that gives proper perspective

    • @guameezincali
      @guameezincali 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Sure there are lazy reviewers but that’s the case with any car. The people worth watching demonstrate a good understanding of the context around the numbers. Cammisa, SavageGeese, etc.

    • @paulopereira6996
      @paulopereira6996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jackwinklebean you should see Jason Camisa review, both before the launch and now. Excelent!

  • @ninjaguy03
    @ninjaguy03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    "Yeah buddddyy...." funniest acceleration ever 😂😂

  • @CarGuy11
    @CarGuy11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for showing the gear ratios! Been looking for that & no other reviews cover that!

  • @bsmukler
    @bsmukler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +327

    What a fun little car! Your description of the driving experience, regarding steering, suspension, engine and gearbox, brought back fond memories of a Triumph TR3 I had, about a million years ago: just a simple, light and agile sports car.

    • @brusk3978
      @brusk3978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Love your enthusiasm

    • @LittleCuervo1
      @LittleCuervo1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What a reference! Had to look it up. Now I’m going on a deep dive on the Triumph TR3.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How was that reliability on your TR3?

    • @bsmukler
      @bsmukler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Just so-so but, as a teenager, it was all an adventure.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bsmukler indeed. Lol. Thanks for the honest reply.

  • @TheMapleDaily
    @TheMapleDaily 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Best part of the video, * Peels out from a stop* "Yeah Buddy" *Smiles and giggles*
    This is a drivers car, I feel like its more daily driver than a newer MX-5 due to comfort and the non-convertible aspect for less areas for the water to leak in.

  • @Dampachi100
    @Dampachi100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I thought I learned everything I needed to about this car from every other auto youtubers' videos and it was starting to sound the same. But I learned something new from your video! All the weight reduction they made to cancel out the added weight of the bigger engine and gear ratios!

  • @youtubingman5986
    @youtubingman5986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great video as always ! You provide the most engineering centric stuff about the cars which is awesome! Keep them coming!

  • @madfrosty5228
    @madfrosty5228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The BIG smile while driving it’s all I needed to see on your review 👍🏻.
    Car should make you happy when you drive it !

  • @SteveBrodkin
    @SteveBrodkin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Sounds like they fixed the main problem I had with mine, which I sold. This will probably be my next daily. Thanks for the top notch review!

  • @MgMg-sm5je
    @MgMg-sm5je 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    YESSS! I was worried you weren't going invited to review it! I love your reviews. I go to EE first always!

  • @andreemilsen369
    @andreemilsen369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love how you keep your backpack safe in the rear seat, belt and all 🤪

  • @klausm5460
    @klausm5460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    I guess those who buy a manual AND care about rev-matching also like doing it themselves.

    • @kevinpascual
      @kevinpascual 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      God Forbid!

    • @lukeduke9304
      @lukeduke9304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hell f****** yeah!

    • @krono7717
      @krono7717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I think auto-rev match features are more for new enthusiasts that are learning to drive stick, would've been nice but not a deal breaker

    • @bradfitzgerald2856
      @bradfitzgerald2856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed!

    • @xXYannuschXx
      @xXYannuschXx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I mean, sometimes you just want to relax in your car, having rev matching as an option would be nice in those situations.

  • @signdeals4972
    @signdeals4972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    I absolutely like this better than the new Supra. I imagine it will be a better long term machine too.

    • @lovecwtchgamerl6500
      @lovecwtchgamerl6500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      You know what I think idc about the speed but this could be my drift machine man .I might have a place for it in my garage by god's grace

    • @kevindelgado7083
      @kevindelgado7083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@lovecwtchgamerl6500 keep focused and work hard man!

    • @lovecwtchgamerl6500
      @lovecwtchgamerl6500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@kevindelgado7083 Yes sir 🔥❤️💯

    • @matthew7448
      @matthew7448 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      y?

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@matthew7448 Subaru has a better reputation for reliability than BMW is the most probable reason.

  • @nfsdanz
    @nfsdanz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    Hey Jason, you didn’t talk about the fact that the chassis has been stiffened by about 50% - I’ve seen other reviewers mention that the car has less body roll and is more direct, what are your thoughts? Thanks.

    • @thatoneotherotherguy
      @thatoneotherotherguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Is it really 50%? That's a big improvement to an existing platform that they just modified a bit here and there.

    • @nfsdanz
      @nfsdanz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @Smocaine More info here: “The GR86 is built on the same basic platform as the GT86, which means it retains the same proportions as its predecessor. However, Toyota is keen to stress that the shell has been upgraded with more strengthening panels and stronger bonding techniques, which improve the chassis’s stiffness and sharpen up the handling. Torsional rigidity is up by 50 percent as a result.” - Auto Express UK

    • @alexbondarenko2311
      @alexbondarenko2311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatoneotherotherguy sac can

    • @joeleonard9965
      @joeleonard9965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      People often don't realize that the best way to improve handling is to stiffen the chassis and loosen the suspension.

    • @nissewahledow5114
      @nissewahledow5114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@joeleonard9965 Depends on what you mean by handling. An experienced driver would get faster laptimes, but it's sure gonna feel better to hoon it along a b-road with stiffer suspension x)

  • @scottyb6765
    @scottyb6765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very nice review. The precise, clear, and rapid delivery of the mechanical and subjective content is refreshing. Keep up the good work.

  • @lemoncrazedcamel
    @lemoncrazedcamel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    WOO been waiting for this review since the others dropped!

  • @rezavarghayi8181
    @rezavarghayi8181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I like how the thumbnail just says "good"
    Honestly i'm sold

  • @animalpeeps
    @animalpeeps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's super interesting to see the design cues from the newer Acura as well as some Supra vibes, mainly on the rear of the car for both of those. Just on paper and seeing how it looks, definitely not a bad car to consider for a fun and affordable vehicle! I think it's a good improvement from the previous gens, and I'm looking forward to what people can do to this car over time as well.

  • @johnsonzhang9137
    @johnsonzhang9137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey Jason, absolutely great video! As a current 2014 frs owner and wanting to change to either brz or gr86 2022, I really appreciate this video from you and could you do another video for comparing 2022 brz and gr86 when you buy any of them? I've learned that they are different on sway bar mounting, aluminum vs steel control arm, and different spring and damping parameters. Really want to know exactly how these two cars gonna have a different characteristic and what finally gonna makes you for buying one of them! Thank you for all the great videos you make!!!

  • @bluex610
    @bluex610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This looks like a great car for younger drivers. Sporty, reliable, safe and affordable.

  • @mholmes9262
    @mholmes9262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Man I'm so happy to see Japanese car makers building cars just for the joy of driving again. This car seems like a hoot. Nissan is bringing back the Z and it looks better than ever and offers the VR30 with a 6MT. The Supra is awesome, even if it's not 100% true to the original formula...it would be even better if they decide to offer it with a 6MT. Honda has the Civic Si and Type R...but honestly this car with RWD and 6MT just seems so appealing.

  • @ezekielalexander709
    @ezekielalexander709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive already seen like 6 reviews on this car but love the content and knowledge as well thanks

  • @Johnnyscarcarereviews
    @Johnnyscarcarereviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always fantastic review! Finding your videos = TH-cam treasure chest of the best information.

  • @daviddill5227
    @daviddill5227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jason, thank you very much for the videos. You make the complex understandable. I really appreciate that about the videos.

  • @charlesfox8638
    @charlesfox8638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Refreshing finally to see someone correct the misunderstood focus on peak torque rpms, most Naturally aspirated torque curves are 90% of peak torque from 2000 to redline, with the odd deviation here or there / cammy higher peak for older heavier pre vvt engines

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another perfect video that was worth waiting for, first proper technical description of what's changed as expected, thank you, Toyota on a roll with this and the Yaris.....how to choose between them...

  • @govnor1495
    @govnor1495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What a great car. Manual, light weight, pretty. I do NOT want rev matching. I'm glad they didn't include that. I'm kind of surprised that you like it. I am also a fan of NO turbo that literally every performance car has now. I haven't seen a new car I might actually buy until now. It's perfect.

    • @eyesurgeon69
      @eyesurgeon69 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rev matching that is selectable would be great. Don't like it, turn it off.

    • @good-tn9sr
      @good-tn9sr 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why is turbo bad. Sorry not as educated.

    • @govnor1495
      @govnor1495 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@good-tn9sr A turbo isn't necessarily bad. I have owned them. They're just not as good for long term reliability as a naturally aspirated engine

  • @ColeSpolaric
    @ColeSpolaric 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Jason, I share your sentiments about most seats being a tall stick myself!

  • @MrLordZenki
    @MrLordZenki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Chirped the tires shifting into second, nice!

    • @jasoncee666
      @jasoncee666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cops have pulled me over for such behaviour 😋

    • @larslrs7234
      @larslrs7234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is this nice? It is better than automatically reducing motor power but a lighter drive train would be better.

    • @jasoncee666
      @jasoncee666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larslrs7234 I think it's a laugh not nice at all.....nice would be having a super or turbo charger and being able to fry on demand 😋 none of this silly 80's chirp noises 🤣

    • @larslrs7234
      @larslrs7234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasoncee666 the chirp comes from releasing clutch without providing gas. The wheels slowdown drive train and motor. But motor and drive train are so heavy that there is a wheelspin for a moment.

    • @jasoncee666
      @jasoncee666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@larslrs7234 oh okay compression lockup that's also known as, I forget the video already 😀

  • @willbobig
    @willbobig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Told my father that I’d love to pickup one of these and this is the vid that I shared with him - thanks!

  • @michaelw2263
    @michaelw2263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! I was wondering when Jason would give us this review

  • @Javierm0n0
    @Javierm0n0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i love the way this thing looks, glad to hear it's a general improvement.

  • @jbandt
    @jbandt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Omg thank you for explaining the peak torque right out of the gate. Every other channel just keeps saying peak torque happens a lot sooner, but never explain that the prior gen did have decent torque on the low end.

    • @richardhoulton4016
      @richardhoulton4016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It did have decent torque up to 3 and a bit thousand, but then it fell in a big hole.

  • @Nick-xc4fy
    @Nick-xc4fy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this, looks like it would be great fun to own!

  • @05M007
    @05M007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Myself an automobile engineer from India and I love to watch your TH-cam channel because you describe the things very accurately.

  • @chrish8487
    @chrish8487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really love the changes to the 86 buy I wonder how much better it would be with just 2 seats and saving even more weight like the Miata.

  • @charliedee9276
    @charliedee9276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like how marketing says the dual injection system helps power yet we all know it is to keep the intake valves clean on the backsides.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep! Toyota actually does a lot of neat tricks with D4-S. Here’s a video with all the details: th-cam.com/video/66C4YIiwRbM/w-d-xo.html

  • @daveroberts7295
    @daveroberts7295 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just took delivery of one 3 weeks ago in Canada. I was pining for my 1986 MR2, a fun car to scoot around in. I did zero research, saw no videos, I was at the dealer and just told my salesman, I want one of them. It took 6 months to get and in transit it morphed from silver to trueno blue with the premium package. AT-6. I love it, it scoots nicely. Having a slightly modified right knee, all original parts but slightly rearranged, a manual was not in the picture. It's fast, and does corners like its on rails. Nice acceleration and the paddles or sport mode takes care of the absence of the extra peddle and dynamic cruise makes for easier highway driving. A nice rig. I am an infrequent commenter, but enjoy your channel. PS: Post purchase research all leans to what you say and my experience, a decent little sports car that is fun to drive. Cheers from Newfoundland, land of windy roads.

  • @johnreese3762
    @johnreese3762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great car/review! Thanks EE!

  • @dylanw890
    @dylanw890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like how despite this being a four cylinder, they really tried to give it a unique sound and embraces the fact that it is a four cylinder

  • @edwardk6764
    @edwardk6764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kinda like the Atkinson cycle 3.5 taco v6, I like that it switches between direct and port injection because it reduces buildup in the intake and valves. Extra power and torque is also attractive. I think I want the GR. In fact, I would take any toyota GR at this point.
    As far as rev matching... it is installed in my right foot.

    • @RS-nq8xk
      @RS-nq8xk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would even take the Prius G's made around 2015... haha

  • @MrSkiller15
    @MrSkiller15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoy the vids but I would like to see metric units when you show/talk numbers, would be a nice feature

  • @flywithtb5005
    @flywithtb5005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    gr86 looks really cool. and increasing performance/price is always a good thing

  • @thomaspc0
    @thomaspc0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Wow, the screen is actually in-dash and not stuck on top like every other car.

  • @CSHracer
    @CSHracer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'm so happy you brought up the fact that peak torque being earlier is really just a buzz phrase. Sure the Gen1 peaked later, but that was just barely higher than the first peak... I wonder if the 2020 rear diff will fit the 22.

    • @Djentfan420
      @Djentfan420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How come you would want the old diff genuine question

    • @CSHracer
      @CSHracer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Djentfan420 the 17-40 rear diff had shorter gearing, so it makes it a bit quicker accelerating and rowing through the gears.

  • @andrewm5840
    @andrewm5840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So thankful that your happy with the second gen and love what I'm hearing. Now I need to wait about 3 year till I can afford one

  • @Techcensorshipbot
    @Techcensorshipbot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought one of these. With zero experience in driving a manual. Its been fun so far!

  • @paul2lane236
    @paul2lane236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Engineering Explained Great review! Was there any rev hang when shifting? You made no mention of it . Hopefully this is because it is non existent. As you know this plagues a lot of newer cars, making it very difficult to get a smooth shift in normal driving. Almost makes me want to shy away from a manual.

  • @ericcope8884
    @ericcope8884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can't wait to see what the aftermarket does with this car.

  • @JakobusVdL
    @JakobusVdL ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi EE Jason, love your video's they are always so informative. Very excited to hear and see the new GR86/BRZ, the reviews are all so positive, and the sound of the engine reving out from inside the car - wonderful.
    One thing (sorry) you have a worldwide audience, and most of the world is metricated, so any chance that you could quote power/torque/weight in metric units?

  • @Ta_nuz
    @Ta_nuz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    always loved your honest content.🙋

  • @ThePhiltastic
    @ThePhiltastic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    0:49 The pistons actually don’t move up and down. They move from side to side. It’s a boxer :)

    • @lewisanth4986
      @lewisanth4986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We know what you mean but damn! You really had to mention it huh 😂

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peak pedant!

    • @josefgordon7712
      @josefgordon7712 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost like 99.9% of cars he talk about have pistons that go up and down and talking while driving leads to an occasional mistake 🙄

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@josefgordon7712 actually, only 99.73% ;)

    • @josefgordon7712
      @josefgordon7712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jamesengland7461 this is true, he does have slightly more Porsche and Subaru content than others 😅

  • @alexanderthyrrestrup6184
    @alexanderthyrrestrup6184 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why is no one going on about the exterior design. It is superb, especially with the duck tail spoiler. The composition between the line and curves are on par with much more expensive car models form a brand like Porsche.

  • @limpunsing224
    @limpunsing224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad to see accessible sports cars still exist Ace review, EE

  • @mikecampbell5856
    @mikecampbell5856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My first two cars were a 1976 MG Midget and a 1977 Triumph TR7. I was stationed in San Diego so they were both under powered California versions. It was fun getting the most out of those engines with the manual transmissions. It really makes you plan your shifts to get the most out of the car. Since they were British we measured acceleration in furlongs per fortnight.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was the TR7 pretty reliable for you overall?

    • @mikecampbell5856
      @mikecampbell5856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joshuagibson2520 Clutch problems and a tiny bit of overheating eve with the 3 fans made me trade it in.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikecampbell5856 cool. Thanks for your honest feedback.

  • @acchaladka
    @acchaladka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jason, question for you but first: what an amazing fourteen minutes of off the top of your head patter - structured, flowing, smooth, and informative throughout. You could give lessons, that's quite a skill.
    Second, should one get this new 86GR, an ND1 Miata with supercharger, or a stock 944?
    Thanks for the years of great and interesting videos.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for the kind words! I would say: get the 86 if you want to visit the track occasionally. Get the MX-5 if you never plan on tracking, and don’t need the added practicality/space of the 86.

    • @acchaladka
      @acchaladka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EngineeringExplained thank you for the response and about the rest it was very much my pleasure!

    • @herschelbrown2944
      @herschelbrown2944 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EngineeringExplained I had the same question: Thanks for the definitive answer! No tracking for me. -Hersch

  • @shaunlunney7551
    @shaunlunney7551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The perfect entry level enthusiast car in the new car market

  • @jeffhines3788
    @jeffhines3788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great work, I like your smile when you get 2nd gear scratch

  • @Slays_Media
    @Slays_Media 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew you'd be here with a review! 😎

  • @SleepyRulu
    @SleepyRulu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This makes me happy to see the next gen 86 is here but now gt86 prices should be cheaper.

    • @patw9175
      @patw9175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The prices will probably start to come down. Well not right now, demand for used cars is so high that everything is inflated but eventually...

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not in this current market they wont.

    • @harrybuhse8622
      @harrybuhse8622 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol maybe by next year gt86 prices might even reflect market value 🥴

  • @COU51N.Kyle.
    @COU51N.Kyle. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love the way it sounds!

    • @billedwardz
      @billedwardz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Pretty sure what you're hearing throughout the whole video is fake engine noise through the speakers. I personally think it sounds really annoying and drones when he's just cruising around, sounds fine when you're rowing through the gears I guess.

    • @arride4590
      @arride4590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@billedwardz a lot companies like BMW has this fake engine noise.

    • @setharcher5869
      @setharcher5869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds like a video game.

    • @houssamalucad753
      @houssamalucad753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For me it sounds like a riced car, worst part of this car for me.

    • @officialyasir
      @officialyasir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really? It sounds terrible to me, it’s fake sounds. I would turn them off if I ever bought it

  • @sunethjayamanna8787
    @sunethjayamanna8787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect review. Well done!

  • @archmage1991
    @archmage1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great looking car and so far the praise has been there by most journalists! exciting to see affordable NA front engined RWD cars.

  • @ARPLATINUM
    @ARPLATINUM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thought that was a red 400Z at first in the thumb lol.

    • @namankandoi8554
      @namankandoi8554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do look alike from the front!

    • @ARPLATINUM
      @ARPLATINUM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@namankandoi8554 good, I'm not crazy lol... at least with this thought 🤪🤪🤪

    • @MagicMiikka
      @MagicMiikka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This exactly, it does not look like a Toyobaru at all.
      In the back it looks like an 2014 Opel Insignia :/

    • @arride4590
      @arride4590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nissan Z will cost at least 40k.

  • @jameslong9564
    @jameslong9564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m getting one (premium) as soon as I can order one.

  • @tips4truckers252
    @tips4truckers252 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video jason

  • @islandon22
    @islandon22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Though the Miata is space limited, this is my next "go to" for my retirement toy. But Miata still holds my heart.

    • @jagbasran4548
      @jagbasran4548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try a few miles in the sun with the top down before committing to that decision.

  • @xlr8hard
    @xlr8hard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice revision of the 86, but it would've been the perfect one car daily driver if the rear seats were spilt and the rear glass was able to open up like my Acura RSX even if it adds a few pounds. A little bit more practicality in my opinion. It is hard to pack big/awkward items through the trunk opening in the 86. I still like the car because it checks all the other boxes being rwd, manual, lightweight and affordable. I'm still looking for a replacement for my Type S which has 558000kms on it.

    • @RobbieFitzgerald
      @RobbieFitzgerald 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These cars are just meant to be fun, not practical.

    • @xlr8hard
      @xlr8hard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobbieFitzgerald It would be nice to able to buy just one car to fit all the buyer's needs.

    • @RobbieFitzgerald
      @RobbieFitzgerald 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xlr8hard Im not saying youre wrong.

  • @yusuket3184
    @yusuket3184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0:36 it was at this moment when Jason decided he will purchase a GR 2000

  • @dnrg62
    @dnrg62 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as always , S2000 vs MX5 vs new GR 86 waiting for this review 👍D

  • @sudoDie
    @sudoDie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    seing the smile on your face when you accelerate, I can see how good the car is !

  • @BOTDDNA
    @BOTDDNA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wish Jason bring a whiteboard with math formula during test drive day :)

    • @gwot
      @gwot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaha he should have it in the seat in the back with a seatbelt on it as a joke.

  • @TS-wp3wt
    @TS-wp3wt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    He said the pistons move up and down… isn’t it side to side since it’s a boxer engine??

    • @TheZictalar
      @TheZictalar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep.

    • @abdullahkolabhai6004
      @abdullahkolabhai6004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      After you roll it and it's laying on its side.

    • @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx
      @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abdullahkolabhai6004 The eventuality of us young naive cheap rear wheel drive car lovers

  • @RobbieFitzgerald
    @RobbieFitzgerald 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome as always!

  • @user-cy1kf4jl4q
    @user-cy1kf4jl4q ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review !

  • @darkknight830
    @darkknight830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I am tempted to buy one after watching your review! By the way, how does the GR 86 feel compared to an S2000? I am curious because the two cars seem to be very close in weight with slight power and torque difference.

    • @tealchief
      @tealchief 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The top end on an s2k is hard to match as they both weigh about the same. I'm with a tune and some light mods the GR would be close

    • @whodat9198
      @whodat9198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      stock for stock, the 86 has a better more rigid and predictable chassis. the S2000 has a lot of rear end roll out of corners. aero wise the S2000 can't compete with the 86 with high speed stability and slicing thru air. the 86 is also more daily usable and has much better interior comfort and space for the driver, passenger and storage. the only reason to get an S2000 is the engine.

    • @jeremyspecce
      @jeremyspecce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can’t comment on the GR86 from personal experience but I got the impression that the torque curve is a lot different than an S2000 where you really need to rev it out to get torque. My friend got an S2000 and at the time I had an E46 330Ci (which is a straight 6) and it felt so wimpy to me because I was used to that low end torque of the straight 6. I got the impression from this video that the torque curve to this car was more akin to that than an engine that you need to be over 5000 to really get the V tec to kick in and feel some power. PLEASE correct me if I am incorrect.

    • @whodat9198
      @whodat9198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jeremyspecce yes S2k is not about torque, it's about high rpm HP

    • @JPasdfjkl
      @JPasdfjkl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah the new GR86 has a meatier middle power band for everyday driving, and it is also a lot more rigid with over 20 years of chassis advancement over the S2k. With the S2k you need to rev above 5000 for VTEC to kick in in order to get decent power. But the S2k is an iconic car with a drop-top. So really it really depends how you like to drive your car every day.

  • @Mickey_Bauer
    @Mickey_Bauer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm actually glad it doesn't have rev matching, thank you Toyota!
    I want my manual in the purest form. If you start rev matching, hanging revs, hill assisting and other BS for me, might as well put a freaking CVT/automatic crap in it.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think having the option is nice. But must be allowed to disable!

  • @bruceyung70
    @bruceyung70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To me, this car makes a lot of sense! The true heart of a sports car just like the Mazda Miata! Ingenious study and making it into production, albeit sports cars or muscle cars are such a tiny niche and never has sold well in a car market!

  • @TheFoxalot
    @TheFoxalot ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly what I was looking for. Ty

  • @Zankaroo
    @Zankaroo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know, honestly I think I'm starting to like your reviews of cars more than Doug's.

  • @Piracanto
    @Piracanto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Ah, if only I could get it in Mexico :/
    We get the Yaris GR tho ;)
    Also, you said "pistons move up & down", but it's a boxer... So shouldn't it be side to side? Just being picky LOL, great video!

    • @tqracing
      @tqracing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The GR Yaris is perhaps the coolest car in modern times.

    • @yungboicontigo9278
      @yungboicontigo9278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tqracing worst thing about the car is, it’s not available in US and Canada

    • @arride4590
      @arride4590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tqracing Yaris is FWD or RWD?

    • @tqracing
      @tqracing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@arride4590 It's a WRC homologation special with AWD.

    • @samuelsulaiman9703
      @samuelsulaiman9703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, I am also being picky. at 0:50 stroke should move side to side.

  • @surviver5738
    @surviver5738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is my next car. Never expected this guy to do a review of it though.

  • @rrh5000
    @rrh5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am excited to see how this car compares to the previous model.

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Throttle House did a great comparison and it’s quicker than the old GR and Miata.

    • @arride4590
      @arride4590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, its faster than old brz and the last Miata

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arride4590 faster than the current Miata too.

    • @harrybuhse8622
      @harrybuhse8622 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Savagegeese said it was about 25% better if that's useful to you.

  • @BHP_farm
    @BHP_farm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Rwd is amazing to me, especially while partnering with Subaru, surprised it’s not AWD.

    • @dericanslum1696
      @dericanslum1696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ...light and affordable...not AWD...

    • @mark-qi6di
      @mark-qi6di 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not surprising at all, previous one wasn't AWD either...

    • @waterloo123100
      @waterloo123100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dericanslum1696 Would spice things up if more manufacturers came out with this class of car.

    • @whodat9198
      @whodat9198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      it's based on the Toyota 86, never would be AWD. Toyota had to even fight Subaru and convince them that AWD is not what an 86 is about.

    • @whodat9198
      @whodat9198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waterloo123100 you'd need a time machine to go back to the 80's and 90's

  • @robertroccii7117
    @robertroccii7117 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone is having a lot of Fun. The Smiles of the Reviewer a speaking more than everything. He has a lot of Fun!!!

  • @jeepmor
    @jeepmor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see the third brake light relocated to the trunk lid. Bravo.

  • @jamesarndt1905
    @jamesarndt1905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Glad to see this reviewed! I've been seriously considering a 2019+ MX-5 soft top, but I'm tall and it's a close fit. Would you be interested in making a video comparing the GT 86 to your MX-5?
    If only the 86 had a convertible option. 😊

    • @devonk5127
      @devonk5127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This. I am very surprised he didn't cover this, it's the obvious comparison to make.

    • @ittimjones
      @ittimjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's been one of those topics nobody wants to touch, because there are so many MX-5 fanboys. FRS, BRZ, and Type-86 have been better for sure! Had an MX-5 rental. It was terrible (coming from a WRX).

    • @jjchockey
      @jjchockey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@ittimjones if you think the MX5 drives terrible coming from a WRX I don’t know what to say lol. WRX drive horrible. No clutch feel, overly sensitive throttle, horrible engine tuning, rev hang up the ass. If you actually found that more fun then a Miata you probably only care about 0-60 and didn’t drive it around a corner or hard enough.

    • @badass6300
      @badass6300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Look out for the new Nissan Z as well.

    • @tealchief
      @tealchief 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im 6,0 but i dont have a long torso, lets just say I don't do road trips longer than 6-7 hours.

  • @by9917
    @by9917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The pistons move up and down the same distance? Are you driving on 2 wheels?

    • @andoniades
      @andoniades 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ???

    • @andoniades
      @andoniades 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nvm, it finally clicked lol

  • @MT.2012
    @MT.2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the nice video. Please show the values in SI units (as subtitles), so the rest of the world can make sense of the values being presented.

  • @nnr3
    @nnr3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GR86 also uses different front wheel hub/knuckle material than the BRZ (aluminum in the Subaru), along with different rear sway bar mounting points.

  • @ifarewelli
    @ifarewelli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Cant wait for the engine swap, turboing and 1000hp videos

  • @raymondeddy3733
    @raymondeddy3733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Jason, compared to a stock ND4-2….. what do you think?

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      According to Throttle House, who raced them, the GR is quicker.

    • @clayduval1255
      @clayduval1255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alexnutcasio936 It's quite close and as they said, if they had the soft top rather than the RF, they might be the same. Also 1/4 mile times are not what either are made for

    • @CarsOverPeople
      @CarsOverPeople 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@clayduval1255
      But Hagerty did the same race and it basically smoked the Miata…

    • @clayduval1255
      @clayduval1255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CarsOverPeople it was also the RF, rather than the soft top. The RF weighs close to 120 lbs more than the soft top (about 5% more). That's almost like throwing in a passenger. So that bumps the power to weight down to 13.62 for the RF vs 12.97 for the soft top. The GR86 is now at 12.33 vs the previous at 13.54. So the previous has a similar power to weight to the RF while the new one has a similar power to weight to the soft top.
      TLDR, the soft top ND2 Miata and GR86 will be very close in terms of 1/4 mile time.

    • @s1ddb429
      @s1ddb429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CarsOverPeople Hagerty also used an RF, the soft top is quicker than the 86 since it’s about 150 lbs lighter.

  • @enricobarrile8074
    @enricobarrile8074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice video, with all the information I wanted about this new version.
    I simply love it.....
    I just prefer the esthetic part of the old one, more underground, more fast and furious.
    This one is too clean..
    But great car!

  • @jimknowles5483
    @jimknowles5483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great review Jason!
    You commented on the fun factor and you enjoyed it. Would even consider buying one...high praise.
    How would you compare the "fun factor" of canyon driving between this car and the ND miata?? Say when both cars had very nice suspension modification upgrades
    ...??
    Appreciate your opinion!
    Thanks

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jason, glad you like the GR 86. Will you be trading your S2000 for a GR 86?

    • @dielaughing73
      @dielaughing73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He hasn't owned the S2K for years

    • @Chris-de2qc
      @Chris-de2qc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I believe he sold out a while back

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Getting a yellow one and supercharging it? 😂

    • @WarriorsPhoto
      @WarriorsPhoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EngineeringExplained Wait a minute. 🤨
      😉